Hisory of Murugan worship
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- From: A (@ 213-145-174-180.dd.nextgentel.com)
on: Sun Apr 6 11:22:56
//Alfonse, apology accepted.
and i am sorry that anyone here should attack your vision of the sacred and your traditions as well. But try to remember, hate is not a solution to hate. As for
mmc, i dont know why there are people so driven about peddling a very intolerant and reactionary vision of Hinduism... as a Hindu, i find it as insulting to me
as you would to you as a Christian.//
I agree.
- From: Al (@ 213-145-174-180.dd.nextgentel.com)
on: Sun Apr 6 11:24:55
//Alfonse, apology accepted.
and i am sorry that anyone here should attack your vision of the sacred and your traditions as well. But try to remember, hate is not a solution to hate.
As for mmc, i dont know why there are people so driven about peddling a very intolerant and reactionary vision of Hinduism...
as a Hindu, i find it as insulting to me as you would to you as a Christian.//
SreeKishen, I agree with you wholeheartedly.
Peace.
- From: mani (@ cache-dr10.proxy.aol.com)
on: Sun Apr 6 15:26:02
Sreekishen,
Athae, njaantha. Pinnae enna visesham? :-)
That was interesting though, I never knew that about Kodungallur Amman, does this go for most of Kerala? Do you know any sites were they have pictures of exreme rituals in Kerala related to amman (theemidhi, theechatti, thookkam, etc)?
- From: mmc (@ netcache.spectranet.com)
on: Mon Apr 7 12:17:57 EDT 2003
//I dont understand why there is such a motivated reassertion of such reactionary values by people in so many different cultures and at so many different levels, all with such feverish arrogance. //
Sreekishen,
This is the problem with fellows like you and the casual onlooker.
If u have a standard for fanaticism, then apply that to me and then honestly try to evaluate me.
Over the centuries we have nurtured a stereo type vision of how a Hindu should behave and also how others can behave. When mmc or karu or aruvaal or AJ doesnt fit in that mental imagery, then u or others accuse such persons of fanaticism.
What is your definition of fanaticism, tell me and then i can answer u so as to enable u to make an independent appraisal of me.
1. I have never said that Hinduism is the only way.
2.I have never said that Hinduism is the best religion in the world.
3.I have never said that Hinduism doesnt have any negative things.
4.I have never said that others are doomed for eternity as they dont subscribe to my views.
5.I have never attacked anyone for questioning my beleifs. I have only attacked when they use obscene language.
6.What u saw (the post abt bsotl site) was a culmination of a long drawn process in which i was 'converted' into someone who abuses jesus and all the credit for this 'conversion' goes to .... well let me not say anything. Everyone knows.
7.Then also, i am the one who immediately apologised after i came to senses. For thinking of attacking one or two individuals, i was resorting to a cowardly practice and was hurting many more who are silent and good fellows.
Initially i even chastised my friends here when they called certain individuals as cross breeds. Lateron i , due to hate forgot this and was freely calling much more vulgar abuses, without realising that uttering such words in this open forum will be hurting to a lot more individuals , more than the intended individuals.
I dont have any problem with any individual having a different view about God. My only point is , please dont force your views on my throat thinking that u are saving me or making me 'civilised'. Please try to understand that religious beleifs are too personal to be politicised or thrust through our throats. If u think that u are obeying ur God by such acts and deeds, then remember that someone may arise tomorrow with the beleif that even murdering someone is justified in the interests of the victim or ordained by his god.
Exactly this is what is happening around the world and in the case of India, u all mightve watched as to how the Hindus were forced into an RSS identity by those who were thinking that they are finishing off Hindutva.
After all this, then no point in getting mad at MMCs that christ is being blasphemised or that prophet is being blasphemised. For abuses beget abuses, fundamentalism begets fundamentalism and violence begets violence. Also, remember that the tolerance and polytheistic nature of Hinduism is its biggest source of strength and survival. All other religions depend on one personality around him the entire religion is built. So when someone demolishes the auro around the personality , it not only hurts more , it may lead to that religion wither away.This is the result of the blind fundamentalism and silencing of dissent.
When we merely find all this, we are called as RSS goons .Again this is what happens among Indians everywhere. So when a Hindu questions the accepted notions( which became accepted notions due to foreign invasions and slavery), they are feared and called as dangerous fundamentalists by even Hindus(whom i call muggles..thanks to Harry potter!).
Anyhow, i admit that oflate i have became lot more abusive and i will try to correct myself.
- From: mmc (@ netcache.spectranet.com)
on: Mon Apr 7 12:20:22 EDT 2003
heyyy...what is this, the entire post has wrapped itself without any gaps! :O
- From: Al (@ 213-145-174-180.dd.nextgentel.com)
on: Mon Apr 14 20:30:18 EDT 2003
Yennadaa thevadiyaal mavan MMC PanniDevaa?
Kirukkan madhiri ennannavi ulari kotti irukkey?
- From: Al (@ 213-145-174-180.dd.nextgentel.com)
on: Mon Apr 14 20:30:27 EDT 2003
Yennadaa thevadiyaal mavan MMC PanniDevaa?
Kirukkan madhiri ennannavo ulari kotti irukkey?
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