Topic started by Manicka Vasakar (@ pcproxy2.singnet.com.sg) on Fri Oct 18 11:15:03 .
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What are the true meanings of the things South Indians do. For example, why they move clockwise when performing anything in front of dieties?, the reason for the thiruneer to be placed on the forehead, the pottu for south indian women, the flame we use in all prayers, the reason for married women to put on the metti and many more. What is the true meaning of all these. I am dying to know the answers.

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• From: Nisala (@ ac887b13.ipt.aol.com) on: Sat Dec 7 11:32:47
  
  Skanthavelu Nadarajah,
  
  "Did you see my post from this morning? If so, what do you think of it??"
  
  What, the one about 'za?'
  
  Norman Jansz argues that 'za' should be added for the sake of the Muslim community. I would wonder how the Muslims have fared all this time without having a 'za' in Tamil. However, if the Muslims want to add any letter they want to Sinhala to help them communicate, nobody should stand in their way. I just don't know if it can be standardized, though.
  
  I don't agree with making 'za' standardized into Sinhala for 2 related reasons: 1) Sinhala already has 54 letters in the alphabet and is difficult enough 2) the 'sa' sound has been an adequate substitution given that Sinhala words never had a 'za' sound to begin with- 'za' would be mostly useless (except perhaps for the Muslims, who have not clamored for this letter to my knowledge).
  
  Let's drop this topic, since Sinhala language has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.
  
  
• From: Skanthavelu Nadarajah (@ edtntnt13-port-83.dial.telus.net) on: Sat Dec 7 13:53:40
  
  Nisala,
  I am sending you an e-mail.
  
  regards,
  Skanthavelu
  
  54 letters???
  
  
• From: Skanthavelu Nadarajah (@ edtntnt4-port-184.dial.telus.net) on: Sat Dec 7 22:03:48
  
  Who was Rajarajachozhan?
  
  
• From: AJ (@ qc-mon-pel-ap3-32-48.look.ca) on: Sun Dec 8 06:05:17
  
  >>Who was it that wrote the poem which begins as "yaadhum oorE yaavarum kELir"? Can someone provide me the full poem? mihavum nanRi!<<<
  
  SN,
  
  Tamil poet of the Pre-Christinan Sangham era Kaniyan Poongundranarsang “Yaathum Oore, Yaavarum Kelir.
  
  
  Any place is a city indeed, and all are kindred;
  Good and evil do not proceed from others.
  Suffering and soothing are to these similar.
  Even death is not new.
  We would neither feel the thrill of
  Calling life pleasant; nor would we out of spite
  Call it unpleasant.
  Just as, when with lightning
  The sky pours cool drops, uncontrolled,
  Hurtling on rock, resounding, a raft is carried away In the course of (a) great river of plenty,
  In the course of Order is (our) dear soul carried;
  Since we have benn enlightened by this vision of the wise,
  We would not be amazed by the great in their glory, and
  We would even less despise the petty.
  
  
  http://www.cs.utk.edu/~siddhart/tamilnadu/POEMS/poem_yad.html
  
  the famous KaNiyan Puungunran's poem - puRam 192.
  
  PuRa^nAnURu 192
  
  All lands home, all men kin.
  Evil and good are not from others,
  nor are pain and its abating.
  Death is nothing new.
  We do not rejoice thinking life sweet,
  and if pain comes,
  even less do we find it a cause for grief.
  Through the eyes of those who see deeply
  we have come to know that life takes its hard course
  as if it were a raft in the waters of a mighty river,
  ever roaring and beating on rocks
  after cold rain pours from flashing skies,
  and so we do not wonder at the great
  and still less do we despise the small.
  
  Translation br George Hart
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Skanthavelu Nadarajah (@ edtntnt13-port-107.dial.telus.net) on: Sun Dec 8 07:21:59
  
  AJ,
  mihavum nanRi!
  
  
• From: poda poda (@ support.newedge.fr) on: Tue Dec 23 16:30:06
  
  South Indian beliefs , traditions are ruled and decided by Brahmins.
  
  
• From: zero (@ 195.144.131.13) on: Wed Dec 24 14:02:04 EST 2003
  
  Hindi gave Tamilians a civilization and livelihood plus jobs.
  
  whereas Hinduism gave Tamilians a low , backward and gift of untouchability. In other words Dravidians were given dalitism in acceptance of Hinduism.
  
  So which is better Hindi or Hinduism for Dravidians. Reply to me honetly.
  
  
• From: suresh (@ 61.247.248.221) on: Tue Dec 30 07:27:34 EST 2003
  
  i wonder, why people are very much interested in converting others. live your lives guys and the rest will be taken care. why bothered (!)
  
  
• From: Tamilian (@ cache-rq05.proxy.aol.com) on: Tue Dec 30 10:15:54 EST 2003
  
  zero,
  
  You know what is better? My Tamil d*ck in your mouth, that is whats better! :)
  
  
• From: karthi (@ wc09.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com) on: Mon Jan 5 03:17:31 EST 2004
  
  Tamilian , you are born to suck non-Tamilian dic*ks, specially chinese one, which tastes good to you.
  
  
• From: suresh (@ 61.247.248.195) on: Tue Jan 6 10:27:44 EST 2004
  
  i wonder why karthi is feeling very possessive
  
  
• From: baba (@ cache90.156ce.maxonline.com.sg) on: Tue Jan 6 11:07:41 EST 2004
  
  In Singapore the conniving Tamils do not have caste status (some do secretly) but they have occupational status. What do they do when they finish their bloody college studies and find out they are not good enough to go to university or not good enough to become lawyers and economists what do they do? Rush to become to become a teacher that’s what. And then they belittle any student who is struggling. These idiots can’t even spot talent. I had one of these idiots come to teach my brother at home. His disposition and raising of voice made my brother look hopeless. His brother then took over. Days before the exam he was lecturing my brother to go to ITE. So we decided to hire a humble Malay boy to do the job. My brother got A2 in almost all his subjects and went to poly for a year before deciding to do “A” levels to become a Accountant. According to the idiot teacher and his engineering brother he was not good enough days for poly just days before the exam.
  
  Even now some Tamil bas tards don’t talk to me until they realise I am a graduate. Even then they have questions like how I made it to university and so on as if only certain families should be able to go to universities. I still wonder how many talented students lives my brother’s teacher is destroying in school. It is not strange that it is non-Indian teachers who always win awards for making a difference in students’ lives. Indians rush to a noble job with less than noble intent. This idiot was definitely one of them. Another characteristic of Singapore Indians can be found in this idiot. That is if you are not a fair North Indian Brahmin or whatever you can always MARRY UP by hitching a Chinese girl, which is what this idiot has done.
  
  This is the mentality and hypocrisy of Indians in Singapore.
  
  
  
• From: Idiappam (@ cache138.156ce.maxonline.com.sg) on: Tue Jan 6 12:13:13 EST 2004
  
  Thank you baba, for that interesting episode! One stroke of the brush doesn't make a whole picture!
  
  
• From: anirudh (@ 206.48.99.122) on: Tue Jan 6 16:40:45 EST 2004
  
  One one stroke can break all your 32 teeth, Mr. idiot-iam
  
  
• From: suresh (@ 61.247.248.195) on: Wed Jan 7 03:06:50 EST 2004
  
  baba had started as singapore thamizhs and had ended up as singapore indians.
  
  anyway, whoever, it may be, it is to be condemned.
  
  because, they are not only spoiling theirself but also the lives of the children. imagine 50 children in a year.
  
  appaaaa
  
  
• From: samy (@ map66.network49.164.amigo.net.gt) on: Wed Jan 7 14:53:22 EST 2004
  
  Singapore has highest tamilian population of Indians. So when we talk of Indians, it is Tamilians of India.
  
  
• From: Sherry Ripkowski (@ ) on: Thu May 6 08:57:30
  
  what does it mean when a very pretty red owl lands in a tree beside you?
  
  

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