Topic started by the_thinking_man (@ 202.142.95.162) on Mon Sep 29 07:18:54 .
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is there a "dravidian race"??or have our self serving tamil politicians just lapped up a myth propagated by the britishers for their interests?
the so called "four varnas " or the varnaa system the favourite whipping boy of the dravidian parties,never existed in tamil society.
the brahmins only reached a exalted position during british rule.in fact the chola rulers patronised manusmriti one of them was known as manuneedhi cholan.the other "dravidian language speakers like kannadigas and telugu speakers refuse to consider themselves as dravidians??all
sections of ancient tamil society had equal access to education and religion .in fact the first pan dravidian movement was the bhakti movement in tamilnadu which united all tamils?
ur views??

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• From: Nutcracker (@ 220.247.250.208) on: Thu Dec 18 02:27:16 EST 2003
  
  You want a piece of me ? Haha you wish.
  But I doubt if all the girls in line will want to stand among a flees ball like you.
  
  Or you actually want to beat me up ?
  Hahaha That would be the day….You got me rolling on the floor with tears of laughter.
  I come from a 1st class Westernized society where the natives of that country look down on 3rd world Indian jungle bunnies of your liking…Especially those with turbans.
  
  I have NEVER…..EVER ..I repeat…..EVER…….in my life seen a NORTH INDIAN beat up anybody.
  When you see them walk on the streets it’s like they are counting the tiles on the pavement because they are too scared too look anyone in the eyes !
  
  When you see Indians in nightclubs in Europe they speak in whispers because they are too scared to raise their ugly accent and get beaten up !!
  In the American nightclub scene you hardly see Indians in the big prominent clubs…They rather go to INDIAN only clubs that are usually held in the quite suburbs where the likelihood of getting beaten up is really minimum.
  
  To add insult to injury Indians in the west (Especially THE NORTH INDIANS ) are either having an identity crisis or they are too scared to come out of the closet with their pathetic little culture. So instead of trying to be Sharukh Khan in public..they opt to be SNOOP DOGG instead…as a result having the entire BLACK community laugh themselves half to death about the pathetic state of the Indians. This is the state in Europe.
  In the states you hardly can spot a Indian hanging in a black clubs or associating with 1 but in their private bedroom they are pretending to be Black in front of their MTV playing tv.
  
  Now when it comes to North Indians and whites….The WHITE MAN will always use the INDIAN as a Serf…Knowing very well that the INDIAN MAN..unlike the BLACK , ARAB or ORIENTAL MAN…..won’t resist any humiliation. So they employ these indian geeks and make fun of them half the time they are in office. That’s why you see all this indians seated together in office like a bunch of pathetic nerds that have been bullied too much.
  
  YOU 3rd WORLD JUNGLE BUNNIES DON”T EVEN KNOW TO INTEGRATE !
  
  =)
  
  Now to make things even worse (by now you would think that it can’t be worse than what I already stated )
  In EUROPE…(GERMANY , FRANCE and The Netherlands as far as I know of ) they have a common name for Indians.
  
  YOU KNOW WHAT ?
  
  EUROPREAN NAME FOR INDIAN : COOLIE !!!!!!!!!
  
  Can you believe that ? They are addressing ya’ll by the bloody name of coolie.
  And if 1 can’t be humiliated enough ..the INDIANS in EUROPE CALL THEMSELVES COOLIES TOO !
  
  And now I’m going to reveal something very comical …. You know thered light district in Amsterdam ? It are SIKHS cleaning the piss and s-hit of the WHORE RUNNERS THERE! Hahaha
  
  And you know something else ? Indian chapati eating dogs are refused by the top class hookers in the Amsterdam red light district. They have a special corner for the indians there… A corner with a few Nigerian , Ugandan and Somalian women awaiting the coolies.
  
  But sometimes even they refuse the INDIANS !!!!!
  
  Hahaha AND THIS IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE!!! EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT IT!!!??
  
  This probably explains why you people always seem to be counting tiles when walking over the pavement.
  
  
• From: idiappam (@ 211.185.207.130) on: Thu Dec 18 04:22:46 EST 2003
  
  How are your all STD infected Tamil Tigers. Very soon whole Tamilnadu is HIV.
  
  I doubt if loongi lions take bath everyday. They are dirtiest , filthiest community.
  
  
  
• From: Nutcracker (@ 220.247.250.208) on: Thu Dec 18 04:25:45 EST 2003
  
  Yawwwwwn....you are falling into repetition.
  Nothing better to say ?
  
  get a life dork !
  
  I ain't even 100% Tamil and I know that Tamils will whup your Chapati no good Turban Dweeby as-s all the way to Pakistan.
  
  
• From: up yours (@ support.newedge.fr) on: Thu Dec 18 04:31:10 EST 2003
  
  In french countries we treat Tamilians as third rate slaves and house servants. They are no way fit for merging into any modern society. We don't even call them to parties. They just clean our house and barged in servant quarters.
  
  I have not seen a single Tamilian who has got some taste or standard in life.
  
  
  
• From: Tamil are idiots (@ support.newedge.fr) on: Thu Dec 18 04:39:48 EST 2003
  
  In french army Tamilians are employed as cheap fighters who are always kept in front of army to die first.
  
  
• From: North Indian (@ 220.247.250.208) on: Thu Dec 18 04:51:50 EST 2003
  
  
  
  I was dying to join the French army.But they told me that I didn't qualify because I was North Indian. They actually said that "THEY DO NOT WANT ANY STINKING BASTIDS IN THEIR ARMY"
  
  sob sob sob...I wish I was Tamil.
  
  
• From: austin (@ support.newedge.fr) on: Thu Dec 18 06:34:09 EST 2003
  
  North indians don't accept 1/4 of salary as cheap Tamilians do. Plus Tamilians offer their females free to get the job. Certainly northy don't compromise with their family.
  
  Why there is family incest in Tamil society?
  
  
• From: Sunny (@ ppp-219.65.97.126.chn.vsnl.net.in) on: Fri Dec 19 02:26:23 EST 2003
  
  True Tamilians will sacrifice anything to get a job. Imagine when they don't mind getting called backward or tribals to get a job!
  Whole state seems to be proud of calling themselves backward with fake community certificate.
  If you say you are forward in Tamilnadu, you are looked down, since you are useless, hopeless and hold no social value because social value comes only with a secured goument job.
  
  
• From: go for it (@ 210.97.25.4) on: Fri Dec 19 03:23:31 EST 2003
  
  I have not seen a single culture dravidian or Tamilian in my life. only low level etiquette is their culture. some of my demi educated friends may say that It is my problem as why I have not seen a single cultured Tamilian.
  
  But the fact remains same even if I know or not. Tamilians seems to be very very backward basically due to their uncultured language and semi-urban imitative accent.
  
  
• From: MMC (@ wc09.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com) on: Sat Dec 20 10:28:37 EST 2003
  
  This singaporean pimp want to say that grapes are bitter. Since no Northy girl looks at them, so that they can build their beauty temple in parallel to Tamilnadu gusbu temple.
  I think you are pimp who is pimping for malaya, philipino, tamil girls- be honest to them, since you earn because of them. Northy girls don't do any such low class work and they don't look and coal dark cockroaches.
  
  Do any Tamilian know how to dress properly.?
  hardly any north-indian would share a table with such low class coolies!!
  
  Indian Tamilians are very low class
  
  
  
• From: Mavalangkilli (@ hse-mtl-ppp61482.qc.sympatico.ca) on: Fri Dec 26 17:42:57 EST 2003
  
  i'll summarize u to make a great deal
  Dravidans came from the word Drahmilans came from the word Thamizhans now you'll know why Kannadist don't consider to be Dravidans if u don't open ur eyes bro
  
  
• From: Indianoble (@ wc09.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com) on: Sat Dec 27 04:47:16 EST 2003
  
  Jains and Budhists only have oldest recorded archaeological evidence of existence.
  Hindus came much after and it was not known as Hinduism in present form. It had different names according to region.
  
  There is no Hindu archaelogical recorded evidences as old as Jain.
  
  Hinduism may be only 1000 years old in
  Tamilnadu or dravidnadu as per recorded evidences.
  
  (Hinduism may be more old only as per mythology)
  
  
• From: Indianoble (@ wc09.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com) on: Sat Dec 27 08:37:05 EST 2003
  
  whoa whoa ...i didn't write that ppl .....
  
  
• From: Kathir (@ cpe-24-161-200-254.bak.rr.com) on: Sat Jan 3 17:16:10 EST 2004
  
  Sunny.. you are the one who will do anything for a job..! You are living in chennai, still you throw mud at Tamils and TN.
  
  Do you know the reason for caste-based reservation in TN and in whole of India? Ask your father.. grand father.. all YOUR ANCESTORS.. How could be they so cruel to invent, practice and preach untouchability.. treating fellow human beings worser than animals for their gains!! They sowed poison seeds.. now you reap the results..! No point in crying, my friend..!
  
  
• From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ hse-mtl-ppp66833.qc.sympatico.ca) on: Sun Jan 4 00:43:13 EST 2004
  
  hey austin I don't think Thamizh people give away their familiy to a job perhaps it happens with you northies who'll do anything to lick the dollar.
  
  
• From: Jack (@ 62.58.179.10) on: Mon Jan 5 02:54:28 EST 2004
  
  Tamilians are all culturally devastated freaks and lost desparados.
  
  
• From: udaya seneviratne (@ 203.115.31.44) on: Tue Jan 6 03:36:19 EST 2004
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  there was no organised thing as hinduism efore 1000years ago. But vedism which gave rise to Shramana religions and its father Proto indoeuropean religion gave all the organised religions of the present day from Judaism to sikhism
  
  
• From: Babu (@ 61.247.244.27) on: Tue Jan 6 11:21:18 EST 2004
  
  What is Hinduism? Is it British religion by whom this name was coined.
  
  
• From: Idiappam (@ cache138.156ce.maxonline.com.sg) on: Tue Jan 6 12:15:59 EST 2004
  
  //What is Hinduism? Is it British religion by whom this name was coined.//
  
  The British are so interesting!
  
  
• From: Gogiya (@ 57.73.12.98) on: Tue Jan 6 13:51:56 EST 2004
  
  Mr. Babu
  Why is u so worried that 'name' given by somebody else? But u must try to understand what is religion or Hinduism.
  
  
  
• From: Mai ka lal Jaichand (@ adsl-63-196-226-83.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) on: Tue Jan 6 14:12:47 EST 2004
  
  Hindu religion is nothing but slavery and superstition.
  
  
• From: straight (@ nasa.ftcsc.iastate.edu) on: Tue Jan 13 16:32:42 EST 2004
  
  ofcourse, it is .
  
  
• From: american (@ proxys.ia2.marketscore.com) on: Wed Jan 14 08:22:14 EST 2004
  
  Dravidian illusion? what is dravid and why illusion?
  
  
• From: urs (@ 203.115.31.44) on: Fri Jan 16 06:33:23 EST 2004
  
  Dravid is south in prakrit and sanskrit
  
  
• From: Indianoble (@ wc09.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com) on: Fri Jan 16 11:55:46 EST 2004
  
  Then what is North , West and East known as in Prakrit, Sanskrit, Brahmi etc.
  
  
• From: sepala (@ 203.115.31.44) on: Sat Jan 17 07:01:48 EST 2004
  
  Inappropriate question.
  
  
• From: Karthi (@ 61.247.245.89) on: Sat Jan 17 16:06:30 EST 2004
  
  Then what is the right question for your marathi reply.
  
  
• From: Gogiya (@ palo5.pacific.net.sg) on: Sun Jan 18 02:51:41 EST 2004
  
  Without Dravidian language, there will never exist Sanskrit.
  
  
• From: loduchand bhosadmal (@ 61.0.196.203) on: Sun Jan 18 03:12:06 EST 2004
  
  aaa gaya ,aaa gaya..loduchand aaa gaya
  
  
• From: Austin (@ prog.newedge.fr) on: Sun Jan 18 09:43:25 EST 2004
  
  Sanskrit is Hinduism and Hinduism is Sanskrit, If Tamilians or dravidians hate Sanskrit, it means originally dravidians are not Hindus, nor do they have any relation with Sanskrit.
  
  

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