Topic started by Karuvayan (@ cs2417534-176.austin.rr.com) on Fri Aug 1 03:04:19 .
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India has a scientific approach to religion. Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism, Sikhism are scientific religions.

Islam and Christianity are unscientific and barbaric religions. Only when Islam and Christianity are wiped out, there will be eternal peace on earth.

Hinduism pioneered the concept of Meditation and Yoga which Buddhism adopted. Today, these practices have been scientifically established as advanced methods. Here is an article from TIME Magazine:

http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101030804/

Some excerpts:

"But as pitiably muggable as these people may appear, the latest science says they've got something on my judgmental self. For one thing, they will probably outlive me by quite a few years. Not only do studies show that meditation is boosting their immune system, but brain scans suggest that it may be rewiring their brains to reduce stress. Meanwhile, we nonbelievers are becoming the minority. Ten million American adults now say they practice some form of meditation regularly, twice as many as a decade ago. Meditation classes today are being filled by mainstream Americans who don't own crystals, don't subscribe to New Age magazines and don't even reside in Los Angeles. For upwardly mobile professionals convinced that their lives are more stressful than those of the cow-milking, soapmaking, butter-churning generations that preceded them, meditation is the smart person's bubble bath. "

"It's offered in schools, hospitals, law firms, government buildings, corporate offices and prisons. There are specially marked meditation rooms in airports alongside the prayer chapels and Internet kiosks. Meditation was the subject of a course at West Point, the spring 2002 issue of the Harvard Law Review and a few too many locker-room speeches by Lakers coach Phil Jackson"

"But the current interest is as much medical as it is cultural. Meditation is being recommended by more and more physicians as a way to prevent, slow or at least control the pain of chronic diseases like heart conditions, AIDS, cancer and infertility. It is also being used to restore balance in the face of such psychiatric disturbances as depression, hyperactivity and attention-deficit disorder (ADD). In a confluence of Eastern mysticism and Western science, doctors are embracing meditation not because they think it's hip or cool but because scientific studies are beginning to show that it works, particularly for stress-related conditions. "For 30 years meditation research has told us that it works beautifully as an antidote to stress," says Daniel Goleman, author of Destructive Emotions, a conversation among the Dalai Lama and a group of neuroscientists. "But what's exciting about the new research is how meditation can train the mind and reshape the brain." Tests using the most sophisticated imaging techniques suggest that it can actually reset the brain, changing the point at which a traffic jam, for instance, sets the blood boiling. Plus, compared with surgery, sitting on a cushion is really cheap. "

http://www.atributetohinduism.com

JAI HIND! Bharat Mata ki Jai!
Vande Maataram!
Vazhga Tamil !!! Valarga Bharatam! Voizhga Islam, Christianity!

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• From: neo_morpheus (@ 219.65.99.186) on: Sat Aug 9 15:35:11 EDT 2003
  
  >> And what is the Hindu position on abortion?
  
  Everybody knows whats the 'hindoo' position is!
  
  if it's a male child distribute sweets to every tom di*ck and harry in the town!
  
  If it's a female child torture the wife/daughter-in-law and compel her to abort.
  
  If she refuses burn her alive and stage a stunt as if she died becoz the 'stove suddenly bursted'.
  
  If the gender of the child could not be identified at foetal stage, if the wwife/D-i-L gives birth to a girl child, give 'kaLLippAl' to the little child and kill it; if the mother doesn't co-operate kill her too!
  
  
• From: ranga (@ hse-toronto-ppp131566.sympatico.ca) on: Sat Aug 9 16:01:49 EDT 2003
  
  neo morpheus,
  
  the tradition you are talking about is restricted to only hindi belt. States like Bengal, M'tra, Gujarat do not indulge in such blatant discrimnation between son and daugther.
  
  BTW TN is one of the top states in female infanticide. Of course fuc***g non brahmins have taken 100% reservation in that and do not allow brahmins to do that :-)
  
  http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/Organizations/healthnet/SAsia/suchana/0225/george.html
  
  
• From: Keezhkottam Arunmozhi Mazhavarayan (@ 161.65-104.adsl.ij.net) on: Sun Aug 10 01:43:33 EDT 2003
  
  ##Everybody knows whats the 'hindoo' position is! ##
  
  
  These 'rettai naakku' marxists will speak either way.
  
  On the one hand they will claim that the so called lower castes are not hindus and were forced into Hinduism . They will say that there exists nothing like Hinduism. On the other hand, they will ascribe Hindu origins to these social practices.
  
  If this is so, why the brahmins never practice child infanticide?
  
  Infact , the female infanticide is practiced predominantly by the intermediary castes and that too mostly from madurai and salem regions.
  
  The dalits never kill their female children. The upper castes never kill their female children. It is always castes like kallar, vanniar etc from these areas who do this. And what has Hinduism got to do with this? Whether the Thevars and vanniars read VEdas and practice this?
  
  neo_morpheus should rechristen his name to neurotic_ularpheus!!!
  
  
  
• From: Nisala (@ ac8b7927.ipt.aol.com) on: Sun Aug 10 23:20:33 EDT 2003
  
  Kickboxer,
  
  "The Church even opposed the war on Iraq! did anyone give a damn??"
  
  
  You would be surprised. If any kind of lobby, be it religious or non-religious, has the ability to mobilize funds and resources, then yes there will be certain people who *will* give a damn.
  
  The Catholic Church had heavily lobbied President Kennedy (a Catholic) to prop up the incredibly corrupt and defunct South Vietnam regime, which was controlled by Vietnamese Catholics. They did not want the country to fall to godless communists (nor did they support the notion of any non-Christians having any rights in the country). We all know how history turned out.
  
  The Catholic Church did not support this war, but the numerous right-wing Xian fundamentalist parties which support the current administration did support the war (which was one way they demonstrated their support of the administration). If Dr. Pat Robertson had opposed the war, I would be 90% sure that the Iraq war would've never taken place.
  
  Mr. Franklin Graham, who publicly described Islam as "a very evil and wicked religion," has had the privilege of offering prayers at national events, including President Bush's inauguration. Recently, he was invited to the Pentagon to offer a prayer, and the Muslim employees at the DoD were told to eat sh-t when they protested. Even now, he is organizing Christian relief missions to go to Iraq, and he is being largely subsidized by the government.
  
  
• From: Kickboxer (@ 219.65.103.91) on: Mon Aug 11 03:20:02 EDT 2003
  
  Calm down Nisala, What is your point?? Are you saying that the Church is controlling the govenrment?? Even the people in the Bush admin. condemned Mr. Graham's comments. Who cares about the right-wing nut jobs anyway, they will even support genocide! I am talking about the normal people. If you asked, what was the church's position when it came to the war on Iraq? the answer would be, they did not support it! Who cares about the position of the Klu Kluks Klan?
  
  The war on Iraq was more about covering up the old mess and making money with the Iraqi oil, I don't think the US govt. would have stopped it no matter who opposed it!
  
  
• From: Nisala (@ aca2010a.ipt.aol.com) on: Mon Aug 11 18:59:06 EDT 2003
  
  Kickboxer,
  
  "Are you saying that the Church is controlling the govenrment??"
  
  
  You missed my point. The government is controlled by lobbies. Stronger lobbies have more influence. To a large degree, it's a numbers game. Thus, if 'the Church' (I don't know which church you're referring to) can dwarf the other lobbies resources, then it will be in a stronger position to dictate policy.
  
  The religious right is not the strongest nor even the 2nd strongest lobby in the US. It is a significant base of support for the GOP to a degree- but it particularly supports Pres. Bush and his faction of the party. So he has to cater to their needs.
  
  If you think this isn't true, then take a look at the last GOP Presidential primary. You had a war hero, ex-POW who probably represented the GOP's ideals vs. a complete failure in life who was given everything by his father. The big mistake which war hero John McCain made was to call Dr. Pat Robertson a religious bigot. The religious right knew who was on their side and who wasn't. So who did they support, and who ultimately won the primary (and subsequently the Presidency)?
  
  "Even the people in the Bush admin. condemned Mr. Graham's comments."
  
  The Bush Administration says a lot of things. It originally described the war against terrorism as a 'crusade.' When Bush was running for governor of Texas, he publicly stated his belief that non-Xians will not go to heaven.
  
  Action speaks louder than words. If Pres. Bush was actually upset with Mr. Graham's words, he wouldn't be endorsing Graham's agenda in Iraq and elsewhere.
  
  
  "Who cares about the right-wing nut jobs anyway, they will even support genocide!"
  
  I do not understand your logic. If the right-wing does support genocide, then they are the people I should be most concerned about, being a minority.
  
  
  "I am talking about the normal people."
  
  
  The average American is not running the govt. He is given a small measure of power in the executive branch every 4 years at the Presidential election. That is it. So it does not matter that the average American is not a religious fanatic.
  
  
  "Who cares about the position of the Klu Kluks Klan?"
  
  
  Ask that question to a minority who lives in the American South, and see what answer you get.
  
  
• From: observer (@ 128.252.181.24) on: Mon Aug 11 19:24:10 EDT 2003
  
  ***Ask that question to a minority who lives in the American South, and see what answer you get.***
  
  I have asked several african americans about KKK. They dont seem like bothered by them anymore in he 21st century. May be, lately you watched the movie, mississippi burning and living in that world.
  
  Could you cite some crimes committed by KKK to AA lately?
  
  ***The average American is not running the govt.
  So it does not matter that the average American is not a religious fanatic***
  
  So, the churches are running the govt?
  
  May be the priests are voting and electing the president?
  
  May be all the amendments were designed by the churches too?
  
  May the churches let OJ get off the hook too?
  
  Very interesting, Nisala. Go on, you can talk any crap you want here. After all this FH is filled with # of clowns. You are hero to all those clowns.
  
  
  

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