Topic started by Neel (@ ts006d37.har-ct.concentric.net) on Wed Sep 6 20:52:19 .
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How tolerant is Tamil culture to "beef eating"? When I was growing up in Tamilnadu I have heard of the really poor people eating beef but others don't even talk about eating a cow. I have never seen a beef stall in Tamilnadu in all my life. But I am sure they exist.

While the whole of India considers the cow sacred it is only Tamilnadu that pays tribute and worships the cow with a holiday every year. Are there other states/cultures that have a similar holiday?

Isn't there a law in the US against skinning cows for leather? Are there laws in India against slaughtering cows for meat or for leather?

I have come across many Tamils in the West who eat beef and don't think once about it. I think Tamils should always stand opposed to cruelty towards cows. I think beeaf-eating is against Tamil values. Or since times are changing should we consider worshipping the cow a meaningless tradition?

I pass no judgement on people who like to eat beef. Please post your inputs. Thank you.

PS - If a thread exists that already discussed this topic please let me know.

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• From: stefan (@ 64.229.184.144) on: Mon Apr 7 01:53:36 EDT 2003
  
  There is a big difference between the rare consumption of sacrificial Bull meat as mentioned in ancient scripture and the routine meat eating and total non-respect for animal life you see in America today. There may be a law against skinning a cow ALIVE in america, there would not be any law against killing an animal for this purpose. BTW do not Yogis use deer skins? Are not these deer being killed for this purpose? Maybe they are not cow but it is still killing. Would like to hear from Hindus about that seeming contradiction.
  
  
• From: Krishna (@ cache-syd-aa02.proxy.aol.com) on: Mon Apr 7 07:50:12 EDT 2003
  
  Folks: Here is an website that dexscribe how Brahmins killed animals and ate them in the name of Yagam. http://www.themronline.com/200110m1.html “The fair skinned and pot-bellied brahmins live in comfort, performing Ajameda yagam (sacrifice of goat) Ashwameda Yagam (sacrifice of horse) Narameda yagam (sacrifice of human being), eating vension, beef, pork etc., drinking the intoxicant somajuice and revelling in the Poundariga yagam.” Even now in most hindu temples devoted to Sakthi and siva (Sudalaiayandi and mayandi)...anigoats and sheep and pigs are sacrificed...but then those hindu people believe that that they are placing the meat before god and thank HIM for having blessed them with meat and wealth and then they eat the meat..I do not see anything wrong with that... Balinese (Bali, Indonesia) is a Hindu community and they strictly follows the 2000-3000 years old Hindu tradition and they are more orthodox than Indian Hindus. But they offer pork, egg, and other meat during prayers in the temples..They also sacrifice buffaloes during festivals and for funeral ceremonies. My understanding is that Hindus more so brahmins became vegetarian following Jains...
  
  
• From: vaidyanathan (@ dialpool-210-214-208-244.maa.sify.net) on: Fri Apr 11 17:56:51 EDT 2003
  
  People who know nothing about vedas except reading translations of them from half baked western scholars keep saying the same rubbish.manu clearly asserts that sacrificing animals for yagam is not the same as consumption for food.an animal sacrificed in yagam is distributed in such pebble sized quantities that it can neither satisfy a human taste nor hunger.the animal sacrificed chanted with mantras and thrown as oblation into fire its atma reaches the higher world-manu smriti.
  because these ritual were being improperly performed adi-shankar banned even this.
  deer skin wore by brahmins were from naturally dead animals and a lot of ancient manuscriupts declare the procedure.
  manu says that the meat eater as such is not a great sinner but he loses oppurtunity to have good longevity.he adds that even vegetarian food should have no oil and must not be stale.also a vegetarian also should not be a glutton.
  
  FINALLY NO SOCIETY WILL BE HAPPY AND BE THE ABODE OF GOD WHERE COW IS MADE TO WEEP.
  
  
• From: dravid (@ sbproxy1.mystarhub.com.sg) on: Sat Apr 12 12:09:44 EDT 2003
  
  dear vaidya!
  What do you want to convey to ur dravidian
  brothers?This is 21 st century.Just yu can't fool us anymore ma.That chapter is over.The self proclaimed brahmin domination of India is also over.Simply they r scared of us ma.
  
  
• From: mmc (@ netcache.spectranet.com) on: Sat Apr 12 14:29:33 EDT 2003
  
  ooopssss.....'vaidya' seems to be a churchian implant! hereinafter we have to read his posts carefully!!
  
  
• From: vaidyanathan (@ dialpool-210-214-209-123.maa.sify.net) on: Sat Apr 12 23:31:36 EDT 2003
  
  i am amused by this idea.i am a christian missionary.i am a gayatri reciting brahmin who is out to establish that in the future days of kali yuga only the veda learning brahmins will be part of the satvic force in the world among householders.rest of the people excluding sanyasis,jain monks and perhaps(a few christian and a few buddhist monks) will be delude in their life by homosexuality,beef and animal consumption(in future cannibals ),wine and alcohol(no christian monk is a teetotaller in this regard),extra marital affairs,drugs etc.
  christianity is merely a collection of good ideas,along with pathetic middle eastern folk tales.i have no fascination for this pathetic book of a bible .all its positive ideas have been sufficiently explained in our smritis and puranas.they have no wisdom comparable to our vedanta and upanishads.if i indeed was a christian missionary shame.they have such useless preachers.
  
  
• From: vaidyanathan (@ dialpool-210-214-209-123.maa.sify.net) on: Sat Apr 12 23:38:58 EDT 2003
  
  mr dravid-
  brahmins i agree will not be any competition to your dravidian brothers especially in the future.how can we compete with next generation cannibals who like their asuric and rakshasa ancestors took pride in eating brahmins.it was not me but your periyar brothers who claimed to be the descendants of asuras and rakshasas.what happened in past will happen in future.dont you worry about us.we have our maha vishnu and our mahadeva to protect us.
  
  
• From: sambuva weera (@ 61.11.85.208) on: Mon May 12 05:15:59 EDT 2003
  
  it the trdition of the bramin mking the people to fight against each other.and living on the poor peoplewill make the people foolish and will live on their flesh dear vaid can you identify a single mahadeva evryone claims themselves to be a one aane only mahddeva,[for eample puta parthi saibaba .naturally bramins are the people who were borned to aryan invaders.so the they are having some of the physical characters of western people .will the present aryan in the europe accept you as a original one .they will use you only as asons of prostitute.please dont proud of the name bramins it is one of the the uglist word at present if you understand the true meaning
  if god is true one he will take all of you on finall judgement day
  
  
• From: Karuvayan (@ cs2417546-174.austin.rr.com) on: Mon May 12 06:04:23 EDT 2003
  
  Nutcase Sambuva Weera, even Dr Ambedkar said that the Aryan theory is a piece of junk.
  
  
• From: RW (@ 203.121.47.144) on: Mon May 12 09:15:56 EDT 2003
  
  >>christianity is merely a collection of good ideas,along with pathetic middle eastern folk tales.i have no fascination for this pathetic book of a bible
  
  If you think that way, sadly, you are the one who will loose much. Bible is the word of GOD, with much of History, proved by archelogical finds.
  It is the only book which clearly tells the beginning and end of this world.
  
  First of all you don't beleive in a God. If you really beleive in the awesome power of the almighty God, you will not even think, ridicule and question that he can create everything in 6 days.
  
  

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