Topic started by Expat (@ mail.waldorf.edu) on Fri Nov 30 19:16:28 .
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Isn't the so-called "Aryan oppression" an Indian problem? Couldn't the oppressed Dravidians benefit more from an LTTE presence in India than SL? LTTE has settled its score in SL - time for it to head to India.

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• From: laughin stock yet to be out of this week gas quota (@ 128.241.245.34) on: Tue Dec 4 12:42:30
  
  Nisala,
  Trincomalee is colonized under a planned government scheme with the support of armed forces to Sinahla 'immigrants', and terrorisation of tamils lived there for almost forty five years. Seruwela has ben ceded and made as a separate district. Many Tamil villages were simply destroyed, and tamils ran away because of the terrorisation, and these villages are named with sinhala names, and extablished as sinhala villages. Colombo is NOT colonized by tamils neither in a state sponsered way nor in a tamil scheme to get a Tamil district. In Colombo, as you well know, tamils are NOT first class citizens, and they are gullible to every disrimination that a Tamil can face in any part of the isalna. However, those who come to colombo can effort to keep the colombo economy alright with the money that comes from the west, and there is no medical blocakde and air bombing, the affordable tamils live there. And, they haven't become the majority and they lie in the mercy of the volatile Sinahala mindsets and the same psycological pressure they have in north-east, but as I said no bombing. This is the difference. Do not equate appled and oranges.
  
  You arguments regarding india's real help to sri lankan army and tigers can not go to india are real jokes, after a revious statement, "LTTE runs to tamilNad." I am amused and I am sure others will too.
  
  For you imformation, still the majority of Tamils live in north-east, then in the west, in the indian refugee camps. The last resort is colombo:-( And, even if their tradiational land is free of people and sparsely populated, you have NO right to colonise Sinhalese. Please look at India and Pakistan; They do not do such funny arguments. This only shows how clearly you support the colonization while preaching the rights to tamils in other posts;-))
  
  In your responses I do not see any worthy point to respond, except the correction of my miscounting. Dropping-context is unavoidable as the people like VP, RG, you and Expat have self-appointed yourselves as the spokepersons and tour guide to a never-existing eternal peace land. YOU do NOT represent Tamils. PERIOD.
  
  For you information, I never accuse all the sinhalese as racists. I beleive in exceptions;-) this also menas, there are enough racists in Tamils too. My point is by threatening and propaganda neither you nor ltte can achieve anything. Things have to change in the communal mindsets.
  
  
• From: Expat (@ mail.waldorf.edu) on: Tue Dec 4 12:46:25
  
  
  1) I have two cousins who are half-Tamils. While I obviously cannot undergo what SL Tamils in the North/East have gone through, there is a lot I can do to try and understand them. Besides, they and I part of the same country, so it gives us a common purpose. I realize why you, with your Tamil Eelam aspirations, would refute such claims.
  
  2) Pacifist god? A whole culture is at stake here, and so too is the well-being of future generations of Sri Lankans. If SL were to give in to the LTTE, there is very good chance that SL will remain in third world poverty forever. Having acknowledged that basic fact, I see no problem in refuting the baseless claims of pro-LTTEr's like you.
  
  3)Obviously, you have never lived in Jaffna. So I could play the same game with you. If only Jaffna people have a right to discuss Tamil issues, then only Veerakoon will be left. RT taught anatomoy at Jaffna university. She must have spent the greater part of her life living there. I don't see why you should have anything against her, except that she came to oppose the militants, of which she herself was once a part. Could anyone possibly have a better understanding of the conflict than RT? The "Broken Palmyrah" is still the best piece of literature on the SL conflict.
  
  4) I agree with Nisala here. The LTTE does not acknowledge anyone else as leaders of the Tamils.
  
  5) Guns, bombs, you name it - this is the violent nature of LTTE politics. RT, once a militant, was able to percieve that this leads to nowhere, and so focused on helping the Tamil community in more humanitarian ways. You, on the other hand, are swallowing up every word that the "sun-god" spits out of the Wanni jungle. Many of your comrades take it one step further with the cyanide capsule.
  
  6) War is a bad time to have an election, if you ask me. Its not unnatural for nationalist sentiment to run high. I suggest you look at it from the perspective of human nature and hope for the best.
  
  6) Tamil Eelam includes these two areas.
  
  7) What good is the LTTE's survival? If it were to last a hundred years, would the misery and strife be less? Would SL be politically or economically better off? We have to look at the bigger picture. Whats important for everyone on the island, not a handful of people. The history of the world is the history of the world. But history is such a dynamic force, & times change so fast, that sometimes its dangerous to place too much emphasis on the past.
  
  << Does safeweb give out the same IP address to different people, or is it just a coincidence that your IP address is the same as Predeep Ranganathans and Trendsetter's? I don't really care, either way. Just explaining the Trendsetter buisness.
  
  
• From: Nisala (@ 128.164.60.61) on: Tue Dec 4 15:06:37
  
  Laughing fool- Tamils didn't colonize south? What do you call the Estate Tamils settlement of the upcountry by the British?
  
  You are correct though that the govt. had a specific policy of carting Sinhalas into the north and depriving Tamils of their property. That was wrong- a true violation of the idea of private property. You see, I'm not afraid to admit the shortcomings of the SL govt. Otherwise, your idea of Sinhalas "trespassing" into your Tamil nation is racist filth.
  
  For YOUR information, the majority is in the south (no not just Colombo). What the hell do you mean by India and Pakistan? The partition was a result of Jinnah's greed and Nehru's idiocy.
  
  Discrimination against Tamils in Colombo- have you taken a look at the SL Chamber of Commerce?
  
  You moron, where the hell did I say I represent Tamils? I represent no one but myself, dimwit.
  
  YOU tell me what has to change in the communal mindset. Let me guess- 1) Sinhalas must acknowledge the existence of Tamil Nation where they & Muslims are not allowed and 2) Tamils also must have full and equal rights in Sri Lanka outside the Tamil Nation, and 50% Parliament seats must be reserved for Tamils alone, right?
  
  
• From: laughing s (@ 128.241.245.34) on: Tue Dec 4 17:02:21
  
  Elf art,
  these are Nisala's posts,
  From: Nisala (@ 128.164.60.20) on: Tue Dec 4 10:26:45
  
  Laughing stock- Trincomalee was colonized by Sinhalas just as much Colombo was "colonized" by Tamils. In a country, people should be allowed to move where they please.
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  From: Nisala (@ 128.164.60.61) on: Tue Dec 4 15:06:37
  
  
  Laughing fool- Tamils didn't colonize south? What do you call the Estate Tamils settlement of the upcountry by the British?
  
  
  Does this mean Trendsetter and Nisala are the
  same Laughing fool in this pool?
  
  Sl chamber of Commerce? Are you talking about Ken Balandra kind? No wonder, why not to mention, Rajan Kathirgamar, Kasi Chetties, and Radhika Kumarasamy? [Add Jeyaraj Pulles, and Alagakoones too (sorry Rg;-))] But. do they or cinnamon garden varieties represent the common Tamils of the island or do they have any troubles that a common tamil faces? You know you're answer.
  
  
  I'm talking about Indian states. I never hear Biharis are sponsored by the governemnt to be colonised in Tamilnadu though number of indiviual sindhis in Tamilnadu doing business, so do the tamils in Mumbai.
  
  So, now you are saying Indian tamils are not the part of the country. No surprise.
  
  It seems you have problem with understanding what equal rights. No human in the country has no priviledge nor discremination in the name of religion, language, race and gender -while having the full freedom to practice and enjoy their culture in their traditional land without oppression by the other. That's the way I see. Neither tamils nor Sinahala are better than the other.
  
  I simply ask you NOT forcing your piece of mind as the only one and saying what is right and what is not for them. You are not entitled to. You have all the rights to discuss, but not claiming they are
  
  by the way, seems that I have scratched your cool cover;skin; your red meat has started to shine in the last post;-)
  
  
• From: John T. Graves (@ 12-248-41-133.client.attbi.com) on: Wed May 28 02:28:40
  
  60202
  
  
• From: Kickboxer (@ ppp-219.65.112.145.chn.vsnl.net.in) on: Thu May 29 15:20:21 EDT 2003
  
  Scre*w the LTTE, they are terrorists!
  
  
• From: jegan (@ 202.52.194.164) on: Thu May 29 23:09:15 EDT 2003
  
  kickboxer, you need a bloody kicking in your boot
  
  
• From: Skanthavelu Nadarajah (@ edtntnt4-port-33.dial.telus.net) on: Fri May 30 15:13:47 EDT 2003
  
  aney Nisala! How are you?
  
  
• From: Thamilan (@ 12.151.162.23) on: Sat May 31 04:41:17 EDT 2003
  
  
  Haaa Darlingssss,
  
  Again TTE ha. Iyya IIIIyaaaa
  
  Let me start by saying what this thread means. The people who call themselves Singhalese want to say that the Thamilar in Illangai want to get a separate country, after they get their separate land here they will want to BREAK India also ( This is to fiddle with the Indian Central Governments fears of TN breaking up with India ). They started this thread to arouse Indian feelings since they cannot do anything to fight the Thamilar in Illangai this is their way of asking for help from India ( by arousing other countries fears by saying that the TTE has planned something in their country ) so people in this forum choose who is correct.
  
  Next thing they will say is that the Thamilar are working with the Black Panther ( if I am correct ) of USA in trying to get a separate country for them. In these days even if a Singhala guys wife gets pregnant without the husband having nothing to do with that, it will be blamed on the TTE ( They must have done it by Satellite) . You get it. How dumb they are.
  I saw some where someone say that the Thamils Colonized Colombo and the up country. Ya right, let me remind you who colonized who. History lesson.
  
  Here goes-
  
  It was Vijayan ( who might be a Thamilan himself, ok we will call him the First Singhalam from Orrisa or was it Gujarath who was thrown out of india as the Singhala history calls he was the first singhalam ) who came to Illangai ( God Why did the wind blow our way ). In search of shelter. Our fault one of our women ( Kuweni ) falls in love with these guys I don’t know why and what do we do we separate her as a bad girl from our clans. Then Mr. Vijayan leaves her and goes to King Pandian and marries one of his daughters ( This would make us Cousins. Bad Bad ) and send a lot of his people so that she wont feel alone in Vijays DumpKing. Now Kuwani already has 2 children she goes to her uncle who throws her out of their clan, then I think I read some were that she took a Tigers form and would go in to Vijays Kdom and scare Vijay who was so frightened he went to King Cheran for some Manthralosanai ( Manthara ) who gave him some god kapus who are now know in Illangai as Gurunnanselaa. With these people’s matharam they tied Kuweni ( I think they build a temple for her also as is our custom ). now getting back to the subject Vijay Colonized Illangai that is history and fact. We were there long before you were, how can I say this “ out of the woods “ .
  
  Illangai had I think around five kingdoms inside itself know as Yalpanna Rajiyam, Kandy Rajiyam, KOotay Rajiyam, Maya RaTtai and Etc which were very small. Most or all of these rajiyams were rulled by Thamilar blood. Around 90% of the people who call themselves as Singhalam are in fact people from Keralla ( Goa ) who were bought by the Porthukeyar & Ollanthar to do their dirty job ( Todi Making ( Kasipu ), Military Services, Prostitution and Etc…) in Illangai. As we all know they were all promised by the Colonizers good lands. They were Hindus who had changed their religion to Christianity and they badly needed an identity so they assumed “ We are Singhala “ ( Tell this to others ). in the 18 th century there was a big ho ha of being Buddhist so as usual they again change their path to Buddhism. And now they are Singhala Buddhist and god know what they will change into next. They don’t have anything to do with Illangai but they claim it’s theirs. It was our fault actually, we are soft hearted. ( Iruuka Idam Koduthal Avanunga Paduthu tanunga ).
  
  So who colonized Illangai you figure it out, now they want to throw us out. ( Example – Aborigines in Australia, Red Indian’s in USA ). But we wont fall down and die we have fought back so we are called as Terrorist ( No problem God know who we are) ).
  
  Now we will go to India or baratham or Kumari Kandam
  
  Every time there is a TTE offence in Illangai the American British well equipped, trained SL Army ( The UN is trying to send them to Chechnya, Ya Wright, watch out women if they are coming ) cries and pleads to the Indian Central Gov. to send them boats ( That’s because the 2 Hercules Airforce transport planes are in Rathmalana Military Base with their Bellies pulled out and nobody know how to fix them oh yeh they have to import pilots from Ukraine to fly them ). If it wasn’t for the IN navy boats in 2000 the TTE would have finished the SL Army in the Yalpanna Peninsula ( THANK YOU INDIANS GREAT JOB IN SAVING THAMILAR KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK “ Vanthe Matharam “ to you too, do I cry or laugh ).
  
  So Darlings if I go on like this you will have to just jump in to the Inthu Samuthiram oooohhh ooppssss that belongs to us also so don’t. cant you guys vaporize. That could save a lot of trouble and energy.
  Ohh forgot
  Hi Nisa Darling Boy my Kuku Patiya. KoHetha Giye.
  
  - Oba Inne Kohetha kiya Me searching VishWee Pura. Mal Mal Lokeye Mata Hime Aathare why you know hive me –
  
  GGaaaa HHhahhahh hhaaa hhaaa
  
  So darling’s I must go now ok. I have to earn a living to feed my Family you know why you burned all our belongings ( My house burned for Three days ) in 1983 and we went to TN with what we were wearing at that night.
  
  Ok Kuuk ko
  
  MMMMMMMmmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: JayT (JayTamil) (@ kln2-t1-2.mcbone.net) on: Sat May 31 08:00:27 EDT 2003
  
  hey Thamilan!
  
  Nie thanda unmayana Thamilan!!! Keep it up!!!
  
  
• From: Arul (@ palo3.pacific.net.sg) on: Mon Oct 18 14:09:56
  
  My Hero ... U shut all their mouths.
  
  

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