Topic started by Rajaram (@ 203.197.154.86) on Tue Aug 14 03:02:01 .
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I am interested in knowing the history of the VANAVARAYAR FAMILY, If any one knows, please do reply.....

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• From: thampi (@ mis-019.mediware.com) on: Thu Sep 6 18:47:40
  
  VANAVARAYARS.
  
  They live in Samathur,Pollachi, Coimbatore dist. The family is known as the Samathur Zamindars.
  Caste: Kongu Vellala Gounder.
  No idea about their history.
  thampi
  
  
• From: Rajesh (@ 216-236-205-113.newskies.net) on: Sat Jan 26 10:44:33
  
  if u could please tell me the reason for your interest in the vanavarayar family, i might be able to provide some help.
  
  
• From: anu (@ bkj-cache81.jaring.my) on: Tue Feb 19 04:49:13
  
  so vanavarayar's are gounders izit?
  
  
• From: ranjith (@ ) on: Tue Nov 18 09:20:57
  
  Vanavarayar in Thanjavur Essa nattu kallar community also having. We are following the pattam wise. we are having 1500 pattams including this vanavarayar pattam. We will not marry in same pattam. We will marry 1499 pattams girls and boys. We are strictly following this regulations.
  
  bye
  Ranjith.
  
  
• From: rajeshwaran (@ ) on: Sat Dec 20 08:58:22
  
  i'm a kongu vellala goundan i want to know
  about the fames of gounders and importance given to them in tamilnadu in all aspects
  
  
• From: Tamizan (@ j166.mea51.jaring.my) on: Fri Apr 30 23:47:52
  
  Kongu Vellala Goundans are sudras. They were known as Asuras in Ramayana. Goundans are backward compared to the Brahmins, Chettiars, Malaysian Tamilians and Singapore Tamilians. There is nothing great to talk about them.
  
  
• From: Chetti (@ ) on: Fri Jul 30 15:30:03
  
  So Tamizan is not Gounder it seems !
  
  
• From: P.Padmanabhan (@ ppp-219.65.170.69.cbe.vsnl.net.in) on: Wed Sep 15 13:23:02
  
  may i add to thambi on t Thu Sep 6 18:47:40: " They live in Samathur,Pollachi, Coimbatore dist. The family is known as the Samathur Zamindars. Caste: Kongu Vellala Gounder.
  No idea about their history. thampi "
  
  there r two brothers in the family- senior vaanavaraayar is married from the family of Palzhayakottai Pattkaarar..and the juniorKirhsnraaj Vaanvaraayar is marreid the only daughter (Tmt.Karunaambal) one of the well known industrialists of tamil naadu 'Arutchelvar' thiru . Naachchimuththu MAHALINGAM, with roigin from PoLLaachchi . The industrialist, in association with ThiruperRoor saivite Mutt and its two Adigalaar, is popularising tamil rituals in weddings of Kongu veLLaala Gounders, though r said and done by Brahmins! BELIEEEEVE IT!
  
  Padmanabhan 10:38 PM IST on 15 sep 2004
  
  
• From: Subramaniam (@ 198.151.41.204) on: Fri Sep 24 16:12:09 EDT 2004
  
  "Vanavarayar" is a honorable title given by the kings in olden days. Kongu vellalar are the caste known as "Kongu Vellir" in Chozla dynasty. They lived in Coimbatore, Erode and Salem district which is called Kongu Nadu.
  
  
• From: subramaniam (@ 198.151.41.204) on: Fri Sep 24 16:13:51 EDT 2004
  
  From the very beginning of Chozla dynasty that is from Karikal Chozlan, kongu vellir are the guys contributed more for the chozla army. Raja Raja Chozlan had two branches of army one is led by "Kaikola" who are now called as Mudaliar or Kaikola mudaliars and the second one is Vellir. Both branches did a lot for the victory of Rajaraja and Rajendra Chozla. Kongu Vellalar are basically agriculturalist and the Kaikolan are in cloth manufacturing industry. So the kings respected both community and respect them equally. No caste is lower and no one is upper. Those varansthiram was invented by "Arians" (bramins) to conquer the dravidian (south indian people) by the name of god. Do you know one crazy thing about the story of gods.
  
  
  
• From: subramaniam (@ 198.151.41.204) on: Fri Sep 24 16:14:41 EDT 2004
  
  In north India, Lord Siva and Parvathi has only one son Ganesan (Pillayar). But in south India especially in Tamil Nadu we beleive that Murugan is the son of Lord Siva. When the bramins came here the only god worshiped by tamilians is Lord Muruga. So they made a connection between their God and Tamil God and fooled our guys.
  
  
• From: S.GUNASEKARAN.,PERUNDURAI,ERODE (@ ) on: Wed Oct 6 01:59:33
  
  iam kongu vellalar please tell me our website.
  iam belong to sathantai kuttam please tell me website name
  
  
• From: S.GUNASEKARAN.,PERUNDURAI,ERODE (@ 203.101.66.81) on: Wed Oct 6 02:00:00 EDT 2004
  
  iam kongu vellalar please tell me our website.
  iam belong to sathantai kuttam please tell me website name
  
  
• From: Ganesh (@ ) on: Mon Oct 25 11:55:22
  
  Hey Tamizhan
  
  You are right! There is nothing great to talk about Goundens. They have no social status and lack many of the qualities that call for high living. Kindly tell me where the are mentioned in the Ramayana? Their mention in ramayana as sudras is worth noting. Please tell me other references abt them.
  
  K.Ganesh
  
  
• From: Chinna gounder (@ exhax13-069.dialup.optusnet.com.au) on: Sat Dec 4 07:11:47
  
  K(kena koothi) ganesh
  Gounders having no social status? hahaha What a joke.
  Hi think you are a Fu*ked up Sudra beaten by a gounder.
  No community could emulate our social status in kongu area.That's the real reason for your outpour i guess.
  
  
• From: davie (@ ecc-24.ecc.utep.edu) on: Sat Dec 4 07:24:04 EST 2004
  
  awwww. dont fight amongst urselves.lol
  
  
• From: kongu kaaralar (@ ) on: Fri Dec 31 09:04:05
  
  Dear Muhurthakaal Members
  
  First of all I wish you all a very Happy and Prosperous New Year. Let 2005 bring all the happiness, health, good spirits and all the best things for all of us.
  
  
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  of lives were knocked off and millions have become homeless in a matter of few minutes. Many families are suffering from the tidal wave that
  swept away their loved ones and homes. We cannot replace what they have lost.
  
  Karnataka Gounder Service Society is planning to contribute to the best of our ability to these people in co-ordination with Kongu Vellalar
  Sangangal Kootamaippu. We have decided to mobilize around Rs. 25.00 Lakhs from Karnataka and Tamilnadu and adopt one village.
  
  In this regard, I request you to kindly contribute liberally towards this cause. You may kindly send your contribution by Demand Draft or through
  cheque in favour of Karnataka Gounder Service Society. I sincerely believe that everyone of us will not hesitate to contribute to this cause.
  
  You can contribute to weave the renewal of hope and life.
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• From: new_indian (@ 61.246.230.2) on: Wed Jan 5 00:53:00 EST 2005
  
  History of vanavarayars- There are basically 2 pangalis. Good one's name is Vanavarayan. Bad one's name is vallavarayan. They both fight for the same gal. Good one gets the gal. Bad one is frustrated but he also manages to find a decent gal. Then bad one plots and spoils the chances of a child for the good one by poisoning the good one's wife.
  
  
• From: new_INDIAN (@ 61.246.230.2) on: Wed Jan 5 00:53:37 EST 2005
  
  Good one's wife does some senti stuff and later dies. Now good one -vanavarayar- gets angry and hits the bad one badly. But eventually good one finds a better 'figure' than the first one and live happily ever.So wat r the inferences from this history?
  1. There r good and bad ones in every community.
  2. Both gud and bad ones will get gals to marry. But gud one will get wat he wanted, bad one will get wat is left.
  3. There is always someting gud abt bad things also. For example, gud one got a better figure even if the first 'figure' dies.
  4. Bad ones give birth to a child faster than good ones (India may be full of bad ones, i guess)
  Disclaimer - The author will not be responsible if it resembles some movie.(hi hi)
  
  
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