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any bremins in christiens and tamil muislims?

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• From: Karuvayan (@ law-b8.law.utexas.edu) on: Thu Jun 5 22:36:31 EDT 2003
  
  Vaidi, at this rare moment, I agree with tamilian-1, your facts about A R Rahman, the Marathas are completely wrong.
  
  
• From: arif (@ 210-210-32-65.lan.sify.net) on: Thu Jun 5 23:36:25 EDT 2003
  
  A.R.Rahman is a heretic. He plays music. It is not allowed in Islam.
  
  
• From: vaidyanathan (@ 202.153.41.187) on: Fri Jun 6 12:47:09 EDT 2003
  
  i am sorry abou ar rehamn.i was misguided by a golti .too many goltis in my iit.i checked up the facts.any way the marathas represented by peshwas were brahmins.
  
  
• From: vaidyanathan (@ 202.153.41.187) on: Fri Jun 6 12:53:42 EDT 2003
  
  mr.arif so many muslims of north india are great musicians.what are a colorless less life u want to imose on yourself.is not the sound of birds music.go cut of your ears.you wont hear music.any way i get your point ar rehaman sets music for vulgar songs.that precisely what 'most'(not all ) muslims are.there are noble tenents in islam probably an inspiration from christianity and zoroastrianism and other local and ancient religions of soudi arabia.but no muslims practise them excepting some.so why blame ar rehman.clean yourself buddy befor etalking about your neighbour.
  
  
• From: vaidyanathan (@ 202.153.41.187) on: Fri Jun 6 12:55:34 EDT 2003
  
  karuvayan,why did serrfoji write poems on jesus christ?
  
  
• From: tamilan-1 (@ adsl-63-204-32-221.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) on: Fri Jun 6 14:32:46 EDT 2003
  
  Vaidi iyerae,
  
  >> any way i get your point ar rehaman sets music for vulgar songs.that precisely what 'most'(not all ) muslims are.
  
  This is outrageous. One iyer singer praised ARR like this during a live performance in Los ANgeles in 2001. He said, ARR's God must be true God, because every time ARR composes after a visit to mosque, that song became a super hit. First ask that iyer singer to convert to islam.
  
  Music is divine, including the music that represents sex. If iyer composes it u call it divine, if a sudra composes it you call it crap and thats what i call brahminsim at work in india.
  
  
• From: who is original brahmin really (@ 203.197.20.40) on: Fri Jun 6 14:42:21 EDT 2003
  
  make a list of original brahmins.
  
  einstien was brahmin. ambedkar nehru phule shivaji valmiki all the rishis vivekananda muhamad jesus stalin ( original stalin haha), lenin marks all brhmins. inventor of antibiotics vaccines, jenner, pasteur, jiimy carter, ...inventor of transistor , IC chip, tractor, aeroplane, rocket, plastics, cars, aspirin, phenyle, iron extraction , radio, casette, tv,computer, the numeral zero, fairness cream , plastic surgery, Mr.honda, suzuki, sony, all useful things are 100 percent original brahmin. only such people are brahmins. rest are nonbrahmins whatever they may claim.
  
  
• From: Madurai Veeran (@ adsl-66-122-61-253.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) on: Fri Jun 6 15:31:29 EDT 2003
  
  >>
  i am sorry abou ar rehamn.i was misguided by a golti .too many goltis in my iit.i checked up the facts.any way the marathas represented by peshwas were brahmins.
  >>
  
  So Mr.Vaidyanathan, you learn all your history of TN from Andhraites! There is absolutely nothing wrong in that. Chances are Andhraites know the true history of TN, better than people like you who though want to call yourself Tamils, but would rather prefer to be called brahmins.
  
  You see, Mr.Vaidyanathan. There is no such thing as brahmins. No self-respecting Indian who is not born with the tag as brahmin, is going to accept your claim to brahminhood, thereby automatically reducing himself to Sudhrahood.
  Why delude yourself thinking you are born of the mouth of Brahma, when we all know that every human being comes into this world through the same portal?
  
  There is no brahmin, born or promoted. Any one who claims to be a brahmin is a fraud - Sudhra-brahman at best and a demented underevolved human at worst. Take your pick.
  
  Don't get too confident about the resurgence of Manuvaadi brahminism, in the name of RSS/VHP/BJP. When the time of reckoning comes, all these RSS madrassa trained Manuvaadi brahminist facists will all be lined up and castrated. Would you want to be one of those?
  I hope not.
  
  
• From: vaidyanathan (@ 202.56.162.3) on: Sat Jun 7 04:23:35 EDT 2003
  
  history has never been able to wipe out bs.even today after literal slaughter bs are there
  even in kashmir and goa and bangladesh and yes even in pakistan.our spirituality will be our crutch however people try to devastate and bombard us.if we loose our eyes lord of srirangam will be there forus.if people war with us nataraja will reduce to ashes our enemies.a true b will never fight.god will be with him.god will figjht for us.civiklisations will come and go.dynasties will come and go.billions of religions will come and go.creatures will evolve andget extinct.but the bs will always be there.for ever and ever as long as this universe exists.
  
  
• From: Miami (@ 0-1pool108-27.nas4.peoria1.il.us.da.qwest.net) on: Sat Jun 7 13:56:05 EDT 2003
  
  > vaidyanathan
  >>but the bs will always be there.for ever and
  ever as long as this universe exists.
  
  Interesting. I thought you will exist even after the universe ceases to exist!
  
  
• From: neo_morpheus (@ ppp-219.65.96.119.chn.vsnl.net.in) on: Sat Jun 7 17:12:12 EDT 2003
  
  Miami,
  
  >>Interesting. I thought you will exist even after the universe ceases to exist!>>
  
  good one miami! forumhub 'mahAvishnukkal' universe illAvittAlum 'thoppuL'-ukkuL 'yAgam' seithu koNdiruppArkaL!!
  
  
• From: vaidyanathan (@ 202.153.41.191) on: Sun Jun 8 02:15:52 EDT 2003
  
  there is already only a non dualistic reality you dunce.if the maya prapancham dissappears only the param atman will remain as u.
  
  
• From: neo_morpheus_unn_machchan (@ ppp-219.65.96.106.chn.vsnl.net.in) on: Sun Jun 8 13:08:20 EDT 2003
  
  thOdA!! avvalavuthAnA! chE! idhu kooda enakku ivlO nAl puriyAma poodchi!
  
  sarthAmbA vaiththi kaNNu! iththa sollu...
  
  >>param atman will remain as u.>>
  
  'mAya prapancham' pooduchinnA intha 'param atman'
  engabA kunthikinu irukkum?!!
  
  ennAbA dakAlji vElaiyA keethE!! hah-An!
  
  
• From: bramhin (@ 61.11.16.253) on: Tue Jul 8 06:01:38 EDT 2003
  
  ????
  
  
• From: Balakrishnan S Nayakkar (@ gvawebdproxy1.net.external.hp.com) on: Wed Jul 9 12:52:23 EDT 2003
  
  ###any bremins in christiens and tamil muislims?
  Most of the kerala christians are basically Namboothiriars(hindu brahmins).
  
  In Bangalore, there is a separate mosque for brahmin-muslims near Lalbagh. Other muslims are not allowed to enter inside. Their dressing also different from others. I was surprised when i heard/saw them first time as no such system in Tamilnadu i think.
  
  Here are some good things of our tamil-muslims which we should appreciate.
  
  1. Atleat tamil-muslims don't celebrate when India looses to pakistan unlike karnataka-muslims.
  2. tamil-muslims speak in tamil with others unlike muslims in karnataka refuse to speak in local language(kannada).
  ps: No hard feelings against kandigas.I have mentioned karnataka only, Becoz I had not been to other states.
  
  
• From: Harish Kumar (@ 203.195.215.254) on: Thu Jul 10 10:17:36 EDT 2003
  
  Its a good thing they don't speak in kannada and speak in Urdu only.It helps to keep the communal divide going !!!
  
  
• From: vaidyanathan (@ 202.153.41.185) on: Sat Jul 12 10:10:44 EDT 2003
  
  balakrishnan i agree that kerala muslims are more patriotic,and many tamil muslims,but some time ago when pakistan won a match against india,i was in parrys corner and i did hear the sound of firecrackers and rockets,we know aboutr coimbatore blasts right?
  
  
• From: vaidyanathan (@ 202.153.41.185) on: Sat Jul 12 10:12:49 EDT 2003
  
  ismail muslims have a lot of ancient brahmin converts among them.can anybody enklighten me about their history.all i know is that their spiritual l;eader is agakhan,who lives abroad.
  
  
• From: ranga (@ hse-toronto-ppp131504.sympatico.ca) on: Sat Jul 12 12:21:08 EDT 2003
  
  //ismail muslims//
  
  this term is an oxymoron. Officially they are not considered muslims. They can not go to Mecca for haj.
  Pakistan has a good track record of persecution against them.
  They are one of the most progressive sects of islam and are vehemently against purdah and other repressive act of islam. In India most of the ismail muslims live in Mumbai or in Gujarat.
  Actress Dimple Kapadia is one of them. They take part in hindu festivals like Diwali.
  
  

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