Topic started by Raj (@ 213.42.2.12) on Wed Nov 19 03:22:11 EST 2003.
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The disadvantage of Hinduism is , it has lot of unwanted ceremonies!
Those ceremonies are sending the purity of the Hinduism back ward.

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• From: Idiappam (@ cache138.156ce.maxonline.com.sg) on: Wed Dec 3 14:27:33 EST 2003
  
  Janarthana said:
  //The sacrifices are indeed godly...cos if you do them properly, these animals get 2 go heaven.//
  
  Sounds more like terrorist propaganda! Shall we send some humans to heaven too?
  
  'Well, I really won't know where they go, but I send them there!'
  = Vedic Chants
  
  
• From: Idiappam (@ cache138.156ce.maxonline.com.sg) on: Wed Dec 3 14:38:20 EST 2003
  
  Janarthana said:
  
  //The purpose of that truth is to know it and head forward to enlightment and release from bondage.This is the ultimate goal of the human births and those wh ofail 2 do so will just hafta reborn till their ego cease 2 be.//
  
  That is Vedantam. And it is opposed to Saiva Sidhaantic tought! Knowledge of the lord (truth) is not the ultimate goal. A good man still attains the feet of Him! Love (of all beings) is the way. Knowledge of HIM is not necessary!
  
  //Speaking of ADF( Aryan-Dravidian feuds), I've got a proof to show that " Arya" is not a race but a quality.
  
  " Paachamaam pattrarukkum parrikkum aryanae!!"
  -Thiruvaachagam
  
  Maanickavasagar is a saint who is very proud of Tamil identity in Hinduism. Its most unlikely he would call God an "aryan" if it were to be a race.
  
  Manickavasagar used the word 'Aryan' twice in his book of a few thousand lines! And in both cases the meaning in context was 'Siva as the Lord of the Aryans'. ie, whatever Devas (Indra, Agni etc) the Vedics (they knew no Siva) prayed to - they are worshipping the Lord! It carried the meaning of 'Aryan Race' and not just an adjective meaning 'noble or, venerable, revered etc.
  
  The most famouse line of Mannikavasagar is;
  
  'Thenaadudaiya Sivane pOtri!
  ennaattavarkkum iraivaa pOtri!
  
  Siva the Lord of the Southern Lands, is indeed, the Lord of the people of all Lands!
  - Manikkavasagar
  
  
• From: Idiappam (@ cache138.156ce.maxonline.com.sg) on: Wed Dec 3 14:42:30 EST 2003
  
  Sunny said:
  //because thiruvalluvar was not Hindu monk, he was True jain monk.//
  
  Ok, Sunny, you may take him! And of course his book, the Thirukural, too. But take good care of it and read it please! Thanks!
  
  
• From: rosh (@ 220.226.29.196) on: Thu Dec 4 14:59:35 EST 2003
  
  So you backwards were so far capable of holding thirukural? Then why do you still remain backward and most uncultured society?
  
  
• From: K.janarthanan (@ palo5.pacific.net.sg) on: Thu Dec 4 22:07:38 EST 2003
  
  //A good man still attains the feet of Him! Love (of all beings) is the way. Knowledge of HIM is not necessary! //
  
  This "knowledge" the Vedanta talks about is not the learning of scriptures. Of course, that is benificial , for it contains Vedic truths. But through Bhakti, a person attains Jnana just before mukthi. The nayamars of the peripuraman, by bhakti, never thought egositcally but to them, everything is God, God and God.So, in a way, Saiva siddhatam and Vedantam meets very well
  
  'Siva as the Lord of the Aryans'does not mean that Siva is an Aryan Himself!! But since Mannicckavasagar said so, then it might mean status and not a race
  
  //Siva the Lord of the Southern Lands, is indeed, the Lord of the people of all Lands!
  - Manikkavasagar //
  
  Yes, indeed, this was what I had in mind when I wrote my reply.
  
  A person saying this will never call his God an aryan!!!
  
  //(they knew no Siva)//
  
  Yes, they knew him by Brahman. Siva is Brahman.
  
  

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