Should India protect World Hindus and Hinduism?
Topic started by Uma Mahesvar (@ qc-mon-pel-ap3-12-38.look.ca) on Sat May 11 16:24:35 .
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Persecution of Hindus in Srilanka continues from the day of independence. Hundreds of ancient temples are destroyed or desecrated by Srilankan army and Buddhist monks.
The whole India was crying for Afghanistan’s Buddha statue, there are more ancient temples and Hindu monuments are being destroyed and desecrated every day but close to billion of world Hindus do not understand the PLIGHT OF SRILANKAN HINDUS.Thiru Ketheesvaram an ancient Hindu temple is now an army camp. The Srilankan army peeing on the over 2000 years old Siva lingam.ThiruKonesvaram another Hindu temple ( situated in the famous port city Trincomalee or Thirukonamalai) is now almost covered by a Buddhist temple. This what happened to “Anchor watt” in Cambodia.
( Thiruketheesvaram and Thirukonesvaram are sung by Tamil Saivaites saints Thirugnana sambanthar and Suntharmoorthy nayanar in 8th centur A.D)
The Temple built by Tamil emperor Raja Raja cholan, in the memory his beloved mother Queen Vanavan Mathevi as " VANAVAN MATHEVI EESVARAM" in Polanruvai, Srilanka is already destroyed by Budhist Monks and Sinhala racists and few pillars and the main temple remains in a sorry state.
Our fore fathers praised Srilanka as a “ Siva Bhoomi”and Thakshana Kaylash” is slipping away from Hindus and Hindus are persecuted every day.
India is crying for few thousand Hindus in Pakistan and few hundred Hindus of Afghanistan but 4 millions Hindus of Srilanka and Hinduism are fading away. Is this called politics of duplicity?
India is ignoring the plight of Srilankan Hindus because they are tamils and does this show the North I(H)ndian mentality over Southern Tamils?
Please read the following News.
Monks' protest leads to suspension of Temple reconstruction
[Globe and Mail, Canada. May 11, 2002 07:10 GMT]
Reconstruction work of the centuries old Kanniya Pillaiyar temple has been suspended by the Trincomalee Government Agent on representations made by some Buddhist priests, who claim that the bricks found at the site belonged to the Anuradhapura period.
The Trincomalee district parliamentarian Mr.R.Sampanthan has lodged a strong protest with the GA, Trincomalee and with the Prime Minister's Secretary and the Peace Secretariat in Colombo that, "the Hindu public will not tolerate any interference in their legitimate rights which they have had for generations and centuries."
The Trincomalee Government Agent Mr.N.H.K.Nelumdeniya Friday directed that the reconstruction work of the 'Pillaiyar' temple, located in the "Hot Wells" area, be suspended until the Department of Archaeology submits its findings as regards the clay bricks found at the building site.
The Government Agent's directive follows representations made by two Buddhist priests, one of whom is the Chief Incumbent of the Seruvila Raja Maha Vihare.
The Kanniya Pillaiyar temple is situated about 8 km north of Trincomalee town on the Anuradhapura highway, in the precincts of the famous "Hot Wells," which according to Hindu chronicles were created by King Ravana who ruled Sri Lanka. King Ravana found the hot wells and constructed the Pillaiyar temple to conduct the 31st day ceremony ('Anthiraddi' rites) to his deceased mother.
Hence the Hindus in this region conduct "Anthiraddi" rites in memory of their deceased kin.
However, the Pilliayar temple and the adjacent hall ('madam') were destroyed during the recent period of violence. "Efforts are now being made to restore these facilities and enable their legitimate use by the Hindu public. This is a legitimate right, which should not be disrupted in any way," said Mr.Sampanthan in his letter.
Mr.Sampanthan's letter continues:
"The hot wells at Kanniya-the temple in the precincts of the hot wells and several other buildings there-the 'madam', etc.- have been used by the Hindu public in Trincomalee for their (Anthiraddi) 31st day ceremonies in commemoration of the death of their dear and beloved ones.
"From the time of my childhood I have myself for over the past sixty five years participated in such ceremonies.
"The temple and other buildings were destroyed during the recent periods of violence and were in a state of disuse.
"I am informed that some representations have been made to you by some mischievous elements, who think that the Hindu public can be denied a right which they have enjoyed for generations and centuries.
"The reconstruction of the Hindu temple has commenced and I myself participated in the foundation stone laying ceremony. The construction work will continue and should not be interrupted on the basis of some frivolous and mischievous representations.
"I am writing to you to ensure that no one is able to use your office to obstruct a perfectly lawful and legitimate activity."
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- From: Urme (@ 69.158.126.18)
on: Thu Jul 22 17:12:59 EDT 2004
>>they failed to see that it is themselves and their kind who has lost culture and are not really Hindus even when they claim to be<<
Many of them only pretend here and we know, they are good rotten bags. Why are they wasting time here to show the contrary? What a place to make such efforts as we read no where else and we have no other exposure to the truth. They only come here to paint a false picture and we proved that time and time again. Its time for them to shut up and keep in their bad breath.
- From: anand (@ 210.18.90.1.sify.net)
on: Fri Jul 23 01:40:08 EDT 2004
The powers to be in India do not protect hindus in our country itself. How will they protect world hindus? Hindus are being treated as second rate citizens even in our country. Also, hindus are not united. So, they will continue to suffer.
- From: Rohit (@ leic-cache-1.server.ntli.net)
on: Fri Jul 23 15:44:23 EDT 2004
Anand, though you are absolutely right about the lack of unity among Hindus, the disunity of Hindus is a self-invited evil for self-destruction. Hindus themselves are responsible for gradually destroying it through rigid social segregation and selective exclusion. The factors that brought such dismal situation are obvious and not invisible to those, who, on one hand, mourn about the pathetic self-driven situation; and on the other hand, feel psychologically too forbidding to shake-off some of the fallacious beliefs and misconceptions they carry that have no values whatsoever. ;-))
- From: truth (@ 61.247.253.112)
on: Sat Jul 24 10:09:20 EDT 2004
"Theedhum Nandrum Pirar Thara Vaara"
That is Tamil Proverb.
If something wrong happens to u, it might be because u have done the same kind of harm to someother set of people in the past.
So u have to suffer.
- From: Rohit (@ leic-cache-1.server.ntli.net)
on: Sat Jul 24 14:42:37 EDT 2004
You are absolutely right! Yes, I know exactly what you mean. In past, for centuries, a few heedless humanoid morons brainlessly kept harming the backward and shudars, the very set of people that you are referring to. And as I have said before, the consequences are obvious and in front of you, their entire next generations are suffering and doomed forever due bad deeds of their forefathers. What a sad, shaming and deplorable episode in the history of India due to which the entire Hindu community is suffering from the anathema!
Good, we are in total agreement on that point i.e. “Jaisi karani waisi bharani” - meaning “What goes round, come round”
- From: Rohit (@ leic-cache-1.server.ntli.net)
on: Sat Jul 24 19:56:47 EDT 2004
However, there is no such thing as a set of people, there never was a set of people. The set of people is an artificial segregation of society, created by the mentally handicap morons. The question of who harmed whom arises only after the artificial creation of rigid social segregation and selective exclusion.
There is no point in one mourning about the pathetic self-driven situation when suffering from such mental handicaps and remaining unable to identify the real cause of wretchedness. Such people do need an urgent visit to an expert psychiatric and get examined as they persistently exhibit symptoms of sever schizophrenia and sufferings from delusions, multiple personality disorder and other forms of serious mental disorders.
- From: Rohit (@ leic-cache-1.server.ntli.net)
on: Sat Jul 24 20:17:57 EDT 2004
“There is no such thing as a set of people, there never was a set of people.”
The Advaita Vedanta, the founding pillar of Hinduism, strongly confirms my above statement and rejects any divisions or segregation of what they believe “One without a second” as the God. Those who believe, solicit and/or advocate such set of people based identities and segregation of society in general, they themselves violet their own religion and they are unknowingly renouncing Hinduism. This is what applies to those who claim to be religious Hindus, but their claims shatter into pieces in the light of Hinduism itself.
- From: Rohit (@ leic-cache-1.server.ntli.net)
on: Sat Jul 24 20:21:03 EDT 2004
Read what an Advantin Says about the place of caste in Advaita Vedanta:
“That which is neither subtle nor gross, neither short nor long, which is unborn, unchanging, destitute of form, quality, caste and name, that should be understood as Brahman.”
http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:co_8nkUB7GMJ:www.thedivinelifesociety.org/download/god_exists.pdf+invalidity+caste+advaita&hl=en
Also check what is said about Swami Vivekananda’s understanding of Vedanta Advaita and caste.
http://www.calcuttaweb.com/people/vivekananda.shtml
Ironically, these idiots keep heedlessly arguing against my above conclusions and assertions, which I have been posting right from the beginning, will now feel terribly embarrassed and washed-up to fully acknowledge that they are the one who keep proving 100% applicability of the title of the (.....dalit) thread to themselves.
- From: Rohit (@ leic-cache-1.server.ntli.net)
on: Sat Jul 24 20:22:02 EDT 2004
There is no end to the imbecility theses mental retards can keep displaying. They constantly keep providing evidence after evidence of their imbecility.
Here is one more evidence.
The former Prime Minister Mr. Atal Behari Vajpayee has pronounced unequivocally more than once that the BJP believes in Hindutva of Swami Vivekananda who was the greatest exponent of Hinduism in modern time. The religion of the Hindus, according to Vivekananda, is divided into two parts: the ceremonial and the spiritual. In the spiritual part there is no room for caste.
http://www.bjp.org/today/may_0203/may_2_p_15.htm
Now the time has come to decide for themselves who is who and who is what?
- From: Rohit (@ leic-cache-1.server.ntli.net)
on: Sat Jul 24 20:40:57 EDT 2004
Continued.....
No one in their right rational mind, with some understanding of science fundamentals, would ever believe in such fallacious beliefs as a set of people, caste or any equivalent term or concept devised by some selfish morons for artificially segregating the Indian society. No such concept exists elsewhere in the world, except in communities and places where such morons bray and live.
- From: sk (@ 203.145.183.220)
on: Sun Jul 25 01:58:39 EDT 2004
"Theedhum Nandrum Pirar Thara Vaara"
That is Tamil Proverb.
""If something wrong happens to u, it might be because u have done the same kind of harm to someother set of people in the past. ""
So u have to suffer.
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What a great explanation to a great proverb.
Get you bags to school:)
- From: truth (@ 61.247.253.112)
on: Sun Jul 25 03:38:46 EDT 2004
Just becoz Jesus was great, one cant say all Christians r Christs.
Just becoz Shankara was great, one cant say all Advaitins r Shankaras.
The very same Shankara said to a low caste fellow "Get out of my way u Chandal"
Ok?
Meaning...
He means "At elevated state of being, man sees no difference between creations"
When he descend down he said "Get out of my way chandal"
So while being human, there is difference among humans.
That science is called Eugenics.
meaning all r different.
meaning superior and inferior.
meaning superior or inferior enough to understand this human as well as the one that is above.
Ok??
The difference does exist.
Only thing is it make one set of people feel sad about it and react.
But still they can help which is half joke.
- From: Rohit (@ leic-cache-1.server.ntli.net)
on: Sun Jul 25 05:22:30 EDT 2004
Acknowledging the defeat and your hard-earned status is a beginning; it will take time for you to get used to honour your self-actualised superiors.
Unlike those who falsely felt elevated only under the massive doses of hallucinogenic beverage, is a complete joke.
I remain permanently at an elevated state of self-actualisation. So, rest assured, I won’t say to anyone "Get out of my way you ignorant Chandals”.
I will just say, congratulations for being accepted in the herd. Now you may propagate your nonsense at will.
And that is the real difference.
Good luck!
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