Topic started by narain (@ adsl-63-200-36-14.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) on Mon Apr 8 13:17:17 .
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This is what one of the recent history books on India says. The author continues: "this is perhaps the earliest source of Aryanization of Tamil Nadu."

(S. Wolpert, "A New History of India" 4th ed. p76)

Responses:

• From: R.Sri Hari (@ modem58.bayrac2.eureka.lk) on: Mon Apr 8 14:41:56
  
  Mr Narain,
  Please refer to my thread titled "References to Tamil Dynasties & Tamil Countries in the original Sanskrit Mahabharatha" in this same Forum Hub, from which you will note Pandiyas, Cholas & Keralas went to the Rajasuya Yagam of the Pandavas from the south, and they also participated in the Mahabharatha War on the side of the Pandavas, going to the north from the south.
  
  Here they are shown distinctly, as two seperate dynasties of the South and the North of India.
  
  Mr S Wolpert has to revise his book titled "A New History of India".
  
  Recently I came across another new History book on India titled as Medieval History of India but the authors name went off my mind, will come back with same soon, but it was a Tamil or Kerala Name.
  
  However the fascinating part of the whole thing was that he had pictured to the whole world that the Medieval History of India means only the History of Moghuls.
  
  He has completely forgotton about the great Chola Empire which encompassed three quarter of India including present Bangadesh, overseas lands - the Maldive Islands, Nicobar Islands, Laccadive Islands, parts of Burma, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesaia ansd Singapore.
  
  High time the books on the Medieval History of India written by the Indian Authors are revised and re-written incorporating detailed study of the Pallava & Later Pandiya Empires and the great Chola overseas Empire.
  
  The Historians of India should realise that the "greatest emperor" of India in its 2500 years of recorded history was the Rajendra Chola - 1 of Chola country in Tamil Nadu, and not the Emperor Asoka or Gupta Kings, or the Moghul kings such as the Aurangasib or any others.
  
  R.Sri Hari
  
  
• From: Raveen (@ h66-59-174-253.gtconnect.net) on: Mon Apr 8 15:10:30
  
  narain,
  
  You have raised a question to which there is no real answers ?
  
  What is the origin of
  
  Maurya
  Gupta
  
  Chola
  Pandya
  Pallava
  
  linkages. To be frank no one really knows.
  
  There a clear cut etymology for Chera though (which eludes my mind)
  
  But mind you Indian history is a layer upon layer of cultural influences, sometimes we have to accept (how ever hard it may be) that the real truth is hidden so far underneath that we may never know the answer.
  
  Wolpert is simply guessing that’s all , he knows as much as you and I know about the origin of the word Pandya.
  
  Another good one is the origin of the city name Madurai -> many say it is named after Mathura in the north others say it is Sanskritisation of Maruthaiyoor . I have no idea where the truth really lies in.
  
  Gupta
  
  Chola
  Pandya
  Pallava
  
  lineages. To be frank no one really knows.
  
  There a clear cut etymology fpr Chera though (which eludes my mind)
  
  But mind you india history is a layer upon layer of cultural influences, sometimes we have to accept (how ever hard it may be)
  
  
• From: Raveen (@ h66-59-174-253.gtconnect.net) on: Mon Apr 8 15:11:09
  
  Ignore the second part of my post
  
  
• From: R.Sri Hari (@ modem44.bayrac3.eureka.lk) on: Tue Apr 9 09:19:27
  
  Dear Readers,
  Among the regions encompassed within the Chola Empire of Rajendra Chola - 1(A.D.1012-1044)was half of Sri Lanka.
  
  
• From: R.Sri Hari (@ modem20.bayrac3.eureka.lk) on: Tue Jan 20 12:05:52
  
  Indian History has to be re-written highlighting the glories of the Pallavas, Cholas, Pandiyas, Cheras and other South Indian Dynasties including the Chalukiyas, Hoysalas, Vijayanagara Empire, and the Nayakkars, without only portraying Mauriyas, Guptas and the Moguls in a very big way.
  
  
• From: R.Sri Hari (@ modem12.bayrac3.eureka.lk) on: Wed Jan 21 12:18:18 EST 2004
  
  The Pandu of Mahabharatha is an individual - the brother of the King Thirutharashtira who was ruling Hastinapura of that time in North India.
  
  His five sons in the story of Mahabharatha were known by a general name as Pandavars even though they had their individual own names.
  
  Their (Pandavars)sons too - we note from Mahabharatha had different names and didnot have the word "Pandu" as prefix or suffix to their name - trying to identify themselves with their father as members of the Pandu family.
  
  Hence the term Pandu was never used as a clan name or as the dynastic name of this family or any other royal family in North India of Mahabaratha period.
  
  But Pandiyas was a dynastic name of the Tamil kings of South India of the Mahabharatha period and long after.
  
  When such was the situation some "very irresponsible and stupid Historians" has let fly a wrong concept that "...the Pandiyas of the South India was the decendents of the Pandus of the Hastinapura, and these Pandus who came to the south from Hastinapura were known as the Pandiyas, which was the first stage of Aryan colonisation of South India..."
  
  I wish to point out that the Mahabharatha itself confirms that the Pandus of Hastinapura and Pandiyas of South India were different, and the latter were not the decendents of the former.
  
  In this connection I am reproducing below the full contents of a related Thread of my own opened in this same Forum Hub a year back which I am sure will enlighten the truth to these misguided Historians - that "the Pandiyas are not the decendents of the Pandus of North India, and that there was no wave of Aryanisation of the south stemed from the kings of Hastinapura"
  
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  "References to Tamil Royal Dynasties and Tamil Countries, in the original Sanskrit Mahabharatha of Sage Viyasa"
  
  Topic started by R.Sri Hari (@ 202.21.36.12) on Sun Nov 11 12:56:31 .
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  Dear Readers,
  The original Sanskrit Mahabharatha written by Sage - Viyasa, has many references on the Tamil Royal Dynasties and on the Tamil Countries of South India, and to the other geographical locations within, that were known during the period of the Mahabharatha events, which I trust will be of much interest to the research - scholars and students of Tamil History and append below same to their benefit.
  
  I have selected the version of Mahabharatha translated into English Prose by “Mr Kisari Mohan Ganguli” from the original Sanskrit Text of Sage Viysa, and published by Munshiram Manoharlal Publishers (Pvt) Ltd, New Delhi, India, from which the following have been extracted.
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  [1] ".......Dhritarashtra (i.ee.Thiritarasra) said, ‘Hear O Sanjaya the celestial feeats of Vasudeva feats that Govinda achieved and the like of which no otheer person hath ever been able to achieve......The mighty Krishna also slew the valiant king of Chedis.......all these he vanquished in battle. The Avantis......the Cholas, the Pandyas......as also Sakas, and the Yavanas with followers were all vanquished by him ........’
  
  MAHABHARATA - DRONA PARVA, PAGE 23.
  
  Observation:
  From the above it is noted that Krishna defeated the Cholas and Pandyas in a battle prior to Baratha war.
  
  [2] "........When that host was being thus struck and slain by heroic warriors, the Parthas headed by Vrikodara advance against us. They consisted of Dhrishtayumna and Sikhandin, and the five sons of Draupadi, and the Prabhadrakes, and Satyaki, and Chekitana with the Dravida forces, and the Pandyas, the Cholas, and the Keralas, surrounded by a mighty array, all possessed of broad chests, long arms, tall statures an large eyes. Decked with ornaments, possessed of red teeth, endued with the prowess of infuriate elephants, attired in robes of diverse colours, smeared with powere scents, armed with swords and nooses, capable of restraining mightty elephants, companions in death, and never eserting one other, equipped with quivers, bearing bows adorne with long locks, an agreeable in speech were the combatants of the infantry files led by Sayaki, belonging to Andhra tribe, retinue with fierce forms and great energy. Other brave warriors such as the Chedis, the Panchalas, the Kaikayas, the Karushas, the Kosalas, the Kanchis, and the Maghadhas also rushed forward........"
  
  MAHABHARATA - KARNA PARVA, PAGE 25. KULUTAS PAGE 26
  
  Observation:
  From the above it is very clear Pandyas, Cholas, Keralas who were the Cheras, the Kanchi undoubtedly the Thondaimandala kings whose capital was at Kanchi. all fought on the side of the Pandavas.
  
  [3] ".......I behold the Ganga, the Satudru, the Sita, the Yamuna, and the Kausiki, the Charmanwati, the Vetravati, the Chandrabaga, the Saraswati, the Sindhu, the Vipasa, and the Godavari, the Vaswokasara, the Nalini and the Narmada, the Tamara, and the Venna also of delightful current and sacred waters, the Suvenna, the Krishna-venna, the Irama,and the Mahanadi, the Vitasti, O great king and that large river Cavery, the one also O tiger ! among men the Visalya and the Kimpuna also......"
  
  MAHABHARATA - BY K.M.GANGULI, VANAPARVA, PAGE 381.
  
  Observation:
  From the above it is noted that in the days of Mahabaratha the river Cavery river would have been very wide with more flow of water as the pronoun “large river” is only used to river Cavery, when many of the other rivers of India was being referred simply as rivers in Mahabaratha. The above also describes of the warrirors from the Tamil countries and of their forces ,valour and armoury.
  
  [4] "Markandeya said `O bull of the Bharata race even Rama suffered unparalled misery, for the evil minded Ravana king of Rakshasas, having recourse to deceit and overpowering the vulture Jatayu forcibly carried away his wife Sita from his asylum in the woods. Indeed Rama with the help of Sugriva brought her back, constructing a bridge across the sea, and consuming Lanka with his keen-edged arrows........"
  
  MAHABHARATA - BY K.M.GANGULI, VANAPARVA, PAGE 533
  
  Observation:
  From the above we note Markandeya in explaing the sufferings undergone by kings prior to Pandavas refers to the Rama and Ravana story being the Ramayana. Hence it is very clear Mahabaratha war took place after tthe Ramayana story.
  
  [5] ".......then going to the south Karna vanquished the mighty charioteers and in Dakshinatya the Suta's son entered into conflict with Rukmi.......Having met with Rukmi, Karna repaired to Pandya and the mountain Sri. And by fighting he made Karala(Kerala ??) king Nila, Venudari's son and other best of kings living in the southern direction pay tribute....."
  
  MAHABHARATA - BY K.M.GANGULI, VANAPARVA, PAGE 502
  
  Observation:
  From the above we note Karna who was with the Kauravas went to Pandya country and the Kerala country down the southern region of India and exacted tributes from them.
  
  [6] "......The river Indus, the five rivers (of the Punjab) the Sone, the Devika the Saraswati, the Ganga, the Satakumba, the Sarayu, the Ganaki, the Charmanwati, the Mahi, the Medha, the Medhatithi the three rivers Tamravati the Vetravati and the Kausiki, the Tamasa the Narmada, the Godavari, the Vena the Upavena, the Bhima, the Vadawa the Bharati the Suprayoga, the Kaveri, the Murmura the Tungavenna, the Krishnavenna and the Kapila these rivers O Bharatha ! are said to be the mothers of the fires......."
  
  MAHABHARATA - BY K.M.GANGULI, VANAPARVA, PAGE 451/52
  
  Observation:
  Here too reference is made to the river Kaveri flowing through the Chola
  
  [7] Krishnavenna ”.......Kshatriyas assembled in that amphitheatre, each desirous of winning of winning the daughter of Drupatha those princes Karna, Duryodhana, Salwa, Salya, Aswatthaman, Kratha, Sunitha, Vakra, the ruler of Kalinga, and Banga, Pandiya Paundra, the ruler of Videha, the chief of the Yavanas, and many other sons and grandsons of kings, sovereigns of territories with eyes like lotus petals, one after another began to exhibit prowess for (winning) that maiden of unrivalled beauty.....”
  
  MAHABHARATA - BY K.M.GANGULI, ADIPARVA, PAGE 373/374
  
  Observation:
  From the above it is noted that the Pandya king and the Yavana king were among many others who exhibited their prowess to win the princess Draupathi at the Suyavaram festivity.
  
  [8] "........O king there are also four oceans, the river Bhagirathee, the Kalindi, the Vidisa, the Venwa, the Narmada of rapid current, the Vipasa, the Satadu, the Chandrabhaga, the Saraswati, the Iravati, the Vitasta, the Sindu, the Devanadi, the Godavari, Krishnavenwa, and that queen of rivers the Kaveri......."
  
  MAHABHARATA - BY K.M.GANGULI, SABAPARVA, PAGE 21
  
  Observation:
  Here too it is evident that during the days of Mahabaratha the river Kaveri which flowed through the Chola country was held in high esteem by the North Indians among all other rivers of India.
  
  [9] ".......the son of Pandu (Sahadeva)........the hero brought under his subjection and exacted tributes from Paundrayas and the Dravidas along with the Udrakeralas and the Andhras and the Talavanas the Kalingas and the Ushtrakarnikas and also the delightful city of Atavi and that of Yavanas......."
  
  MAHABHARATA - BY K.M.GANGULI, SABAPARVA, PAGE 65/66
  
  Observation:
  From he above we note one of the Pandava brothers namely Sahadeva exaced tributes from Dravidas and the kings of north Kerala.
  
  [10] ".......O bull of the Bharata race having heard of king Yudhishthura's sacrifice hundreds of other Kshatriyas acquainted with the nature of the sacrifice with joyous hearts came there from various countries,........the kings of Vanga and Kalinga, and Akastha and Kuntala, and the kings of Malavas and the Andhrakas and the Dravidas and the Singhalas and the king of Kashmira........"
  
  MAHABHARATA - BY K.M.GANGULI, SABHAPARVA, PAGE 70/71
  
  Observation:
  We note from the above to attend the Yuthistra's sacrifice (Yaga)
  among many who came were the Dravidas and the Singhalas of Sri Lanka too have came.
  
  [11] ".....and Vinda and Anuvinda of Avant Pandya......"
  
  MAHABHARATA - BY K.M.GANGULI, SABAPARVA, PAGE 86
  
  Observation:
  A reference is made to a Pandiya king
  
  [12] ".......Duryodhana said O sinless one listen to me as I describe that large mass of wealth consisting of various kinds of tribute presented unto Yudhishthira by the kings of the earth......the kings of Chola and Pandya though they brought numberless jars of gold filled with fragrant sandal juice from the hills of Malaya, and loads of sandal and the aloe wood from the Dardduras hills and many gems of great brilliancy and fine cloths inlaid with gold didnot obtain permission to enter, and the king of the Singhalas gave those best of sea-born gems called the lapis lazuli and heaps of pearls also and hundreds of coverlets for elephants. And numberless dark-coloured men with the ends of their eyes red as copper attired in cloths decked with gems waited at the gate with those presents......"
  
  MAHABHARATA - BY K.M.GANGULI, SABAPARVA, PAGE 105
  
  Observation:
  From the above we note the complete description of all items the Cholas the Pandyas and the Sinhalas from Sri Lanka brought to king Yuthistra as present on the occasion of the great Yaga conducted by him.
  
  [13] ".......and even Krishna himself.......addressing Yudhishthira said That prosperity which the sons of Pritha had acquired at Indraprastha and which unobtainable by other kings was beheld by me at the Rajasuya sacrifice at which besides I saw all kings even those of the Vangas and Angas and Paundras and Odras and Cholas and Dravidas and Andhakas and the chiefs of many islands and countries on the sea-board as also of frontier states including the rulers of the Sinhalas, the barbarous Mlecchas, the natives of Lanka, and all the kings of the west by hundreds, and all the chiefs of the sea-coast, and the kings of the Pahlavas and the Daradas and the various tribes of the Kiratas and Yavanas and Sakras and the Harahunas and Chinas ........"
  
  MAHABHARATHA - BY K.M.GANGULI VANAPARVA, PAGE 110
  
  Observation:
  Krishna himself personally saw the Cholas, Dravidas, and the Sinhalas being present at the Yaga sacrifice which he confirmed to Yuthistra.
  
  [14] "........Proceeding next to the mountain Rishabha in Pandya worshipped by the gods, one obtains the merit of the Vajpeya sacrifice and rejoices in heaven. One should next proceed to the river Kaveri, frequented by Apsaras. Bathing there O monarch ! and obtaineth the merit of giving away a thousand kine. Touching next the waters of the tirtha called Kanya on the shores of the sea one is cleansed from every sin. Proceeding next to Gokarna celebrated over the three worlds and which is situate O best of kings ! in the midst of the deep (sea ??? - Trincomalee of Sri Lanka???)and referenced by all the worlds........worship the lord of Uma, one should worship Isana, fasting there for three nights. By this he acquireth the merit of the horse-sacrifce and the status of Gnapatya by staying there for twelve nights one's soul is clensed of all sins........"
  
  MAHABHARATA - BY K.M.GANGULI, VANAPARVA, PAGE 192
  
  Observation:
  Here we note the description of the mountain in the Pandya country, about the river Kaveri, the thirtha the Kanyakumari, and Gokarna it seems to refer to the modern Thirukkoneswaram in north-east Sri Lanka, a Shiva shrine.
  
  [15] "......Dhaumya continued, Listen O Bharata I shall now narrate to thee in detail according to my knowledge the sacred tirthas of the south......O Yudhishthira in the country of the Pandyas are the tirthas named Agastya and Varuna ! and O bull among men there amongst the Pandavas is the thirtha called Kumaris. Listen O son of Kunti I shall now describe Tamraparni. In that asylum the gods had undergone penances impelled by the desire of obtaining salvation. In that region also is the lake of Gokarna which is celebrated over the three worlds hath an abundance of cool waters and is sacred auspicious and capable O child of producing great merit. That lake is extremely difficult of access to men of unpurified souls. Near to that thirtha is the sacred asylum of Agastya's disciple the mountain Devasabha which abounds in trees and grass and friuts and roots. And there also is the Vaiduryya mountain which is delightful abounding in gems capable of bestowing great merit. There on that mountain is the asylum of Agastya abounding in friuts roots and water.......'
  
  MAHABHARATA - BY K.M.GANGULI, VANAPARVA, PAGE 200/201
  
  Observation:
  Here a description is given on the sacred Thirthas of the Pandya country the Agastya the Varuna the Gokarna of the mountains Devasabha and Vaidurya that were known during the Mahabaratha days.
  
  [16] "........Radha's son of the Suta caste, an those mighty car-warriors who were his brothers,an the Kaikeyas, the Mallavas, the Madrakas the Dravidas of fierce prowress, the Yaudheyas, the Lalittyas, the Kshudrakas, the Usinaras, the Tundikeras, the Savitriputras, the Easterners, the Northerners, the Westerners and the southerners, O sire, have all been slain by Savyasachin......."
  
  MAHABHARATA - KARNA PARVA, PAGE 8
  
  Observation:
  Here the great valour of the Dravidas of this period is referred to by Viyasa.
  
  [17] "........Being of such low origin, how can they be conversant with the duties ordained in the scriptures? The Karashakas, the Mahishakas, the Kalingas, the Keralas, the Karktakas, the Virakas, and other peoples of no religion one should always avoid....'
  
  MAHABHARATA - KARNA PARVA, PAGE 109
  
  Observation:
  This statement cannot be accepted as during this period the Keralas who were the Cheras had Vedic rituals practiced in their country.
  
  [18] ".......The Dravida, the Andhaka and the Niishada foot-soldiers, urged on by Satyaki, once more rushed towards Karna in that battle from desire of slaying him......."
  
  MAHABHARAHA - KARNA PARVA, PAGE 122
  
  Observation:
  The above too confirms Dravidas fought against Karna of the Kaurava side.
  
  [19] "........The mighty Pandya that foremost of all wielders of weapons has been slain in battle by the Pandavas, what can it be but destiny ?......"
  
  MAHABHARATA - SALYA PARVA, PAGE 5
  
  Observation:
  Here we note the Pandya as one the greatest among warriors killed in the war.
  
  [20] ".......like one perfectly withdrawn from the world is a real Yogin of the Bhikshu order....."
  
  MAHABHARATHA - UDYOGA PARVA, PAGE 81
  
  Observation:
  From the above further indication is given that the Mahabaratha took place after the birth of Buddha.
  
  [21] ".........Vasudeva's son Krishna ......It was he that slew king Pandya by striking his breast against his, and moved down the Kalingas in battle. Burnt by him the city of Varanasi remained for many years without a king......"
  
  Observation:
  The above confirms that the Pandya king who participated in the Baratha war was killed by Krishna the son of Vasudeva.
  
  MAHABHARATA - UDYOGA PARVA, PAGE 115
  
  [22] "Vasudeva said........Thou O Karna hast been born in this way. Thou art therefore morally the son of Pandu......O thou of mighty arms with thy brothers the Pandavas with yapas and homas and auspicious rites of diverse kinds performed in thy honour. Let the Dravidas with the Kuntalas, the Andhras an the Talacharas, Shuchupas, and the Venupas all walk before thee......."
  
  MAHABHARATA - UDYOGA PARVA, PAGE 270-271
  
  Observation:
  Dravidas are mentined here again.
  
  [23] "...........and the king of Magadha Jayatsena of great strength brought with him for Yudhishthira an Akshauhini of troops. And similarly Pandya who dwelt on the coast -land near the sea, came accompanied by troops of various kinds to Yudhishthira the king of kings....."
  
  MAHABHARATA - UDYOGA PARVA, PAGE 31
  
  Observation:
  From the above it is clear the Pandyas whose kingdom was adjacent to the sea in the south of India too came with large forces to asist the Pandava king Yuthistra.
  
  [24] ".........O son of Kunti art indulging in similar bragging, be a man1........O Partha thou wishest in vain to conquer !........why art thou not able to realise the might of this vast army of the assembled monarchs......the Dravidas, the Andhras and the Kanchis, this host of many nations ready for battle......."
  
  MAHABHARATA - UDYOGA PARVA, PAGE 311
  
  Observation:
  The might of the forces of Dravidas and Kanchis are mentioned here. Kanchis probably refers to Thondaiman kings.
  
  [25] "........The mighty Sarangadhwaja, endued with wealth of energy, the king of the Pandyas, on seeds of the hue of the moon's rays and decked with armour set with stones of lapis lazuli advanced upon Drona stretching his excellent bow......”
  
  MAHABHARATA - UDYOGA PARVA, PAGE ....?
  
  Observation:
  Here the Pandiyan King is mentioned by the name Saranga-dhwaja who was of great valour, and gives a description of his armour fitted with pearls (lapis lazuli).
  
  [26] "Sanjaya said listen to me O king (Thiratharastra).......to the names of the provinces as I mention them. They are.......the Keralas......the Andhras.......There are other kingdoms O bull of Bharatha's race, in the south. They are the Dravidas, the Keralas (repeated again)......the Karanatakas......the Cholas......"
  
  MAHABHARATA - BHISHMA PARVA, PAGE 21&22
  
  Observartion:
  Here the southern kingdoms of India namely the Kerala (the Cheras), Andhara, Dravidas, Karnatakas and the Cholas are mentioned. These are presenly called by a general term as the Dravidian States. Hence it is clear that the Sanjaya who was daily advicing the king Thiratharastra - father of Duriyodana and the sage Viyasa who wrote the Mahabaratha epic after the event, knew the Dravidian states of South India.
  
  [27] ".......It is in consequence of he absencee of Brahmaanas from among them that the Sakas, the Yavanas, the Kamvojas and other Kshatriya tribes have fallen and degraded into thee status of Sudras. The Dravidas, the Kalingas, the Pulandas, he Usinaras, the Kolisarpas, the Mahishakas and other Kshatriyas havee in consequence of the absence of Brahmanas from among their midst become degraded nto Sudras...."
  
  MAHABHARATA - ANUSASANA PARVA, PAGE 157
  
  Observation:
  Dravidas have been mentioned here again.
  
  [28] ".........the great river Lohita, Tamra, Aruna, Vetravathi, Parnasa, Gautami, the Godavari, Vena, Krishnavena, Dwija, Drishadvati, Kaveri, Vankhu, Mandakini Prayaga, Prabhasa........"
  
  MAHABHARATA - ANUSASANA PARVA, PAGE 390
  
  Observation:
  River Kaveri is mentioned again.
  
  [29] ".........Then, O bull in Bharata's race, Nandini alarmed at the sight of Viswamitra's troops.......from her tail she brought forth an army of Palhavas, and from her udders an army of Dravidas and Sakas and from her womb an army of Yavanas and from her urine an army of Kanchis and from her sides an army of Savaras. And from the froth of her mouth came out hosts of Paundras and Kiratas, Yavanas, and Sinhalas and the barbarous tribes of Khasas and Chivukas and Pulindas and Chinas and Hunas and Keralas........"
  
  MAHABHARATA - BY K.M.GANGULI, ADI PARVA, PAGE 356
  
  Observation:
  Keralas (Cheras), Kanchis(Thondaimans), and Dravidas are mentioned here again.
  
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• From: udaya ranasinghe seneviratne (@ 203.115.31.44) on: Wed Jan 21 23:40:50 EST 2004
  
  Do not take thase books serious.Theyu are the Cook books of infamous modern Hinduism.Which corrupted Vedic principles with Buddhism and Jainism as well as other corrupt THanthric as well as thousands of other Shrmana dogmas.They are distorted legends concocted up in 5th century from original stories about Pandu Ela kings of Sri Lanka who claimed descend from Pandus another name for Sinhalese or Elas meaning White people among Dark savages
  
  

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