Thamizh Thaaththaa
Topic started by Adiyen (@ 203.106.162.251) on Thu Feb 21 08:33:00 .
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It is a pity that Dr. Jaybee does not frequent this site any more. We miss many of his extensively researched writings.
I happen to be in a newsgroup with him and still manage to learn some new things from him. Here I would like to share some thing about Thamizh Thaaththa, he has written.
Responses:
- From: Adiyen on behalf of Dr. Jaybee (@ 203.106.162.251)
on: Thu Feb 21 08:37:05
PART ONE
In honour of U.Ve.Saminatha Aiyar, the Grand master of Tamil Language, an E-Book has been launched. He is known as the Thamilzh Thaaththaa.
Who is U.E.Saminatha Aiyar? What has he accomplished to attain that glorious state of being called 'Thamilzh Thaaththaa? Why is he the Grand Master of Tamil?
Here is a synopsis on the matter.
First something about Tamil.
Tamil is one of the oldest living languages in the world.
Its literature is very ancient.
Tamils have been very conscious about their language for some unknown reason. Because nowhere in the world, is any other race is so very sensitive about its own language.
Tamil is very special language.
The structure of Tamil is such that, word formation, versification, sentence structure, etc are unequalled.
One example, there is something known as 'palindrome'. A palindrome is a sentence which can be read backwards. 'Radar' is a
palindrome. 'Able was I, ere I saw Elba' is another. In Tamil, Thiru GnanaSambandhar has composed a whole hymn of 11 verses in palindrome.
Each verse has two lines. This hymn is known as the 'Maalai MaaRRu Padhikam'. And all this without departing from the strict grammatical
rules of Tamil poesy.
There is another type called 'nirOttagam'. In this composition, you use the letters which do not let the lips touch each other or let the lips be come together. Thus you cannot use the
letters 'm', 'p' 'o', etc. In another form called 'andhaadhi' the last word of the previous verse should be used to start the next verse. You have to compose 100 verses like that. Abhiraami Andhaadhi is a famous one. There is another peculiar style, where the same line is repeated. But each line would give a different meaning. Let me give you a very simple example - take this phrase 'paNiyaaram thOsai'. These two are palakaarams that you eat. When combined, they
become 'paNiyaarandhOsai'. This can be split like this: 'paNi aaram thO saila...', 'paNi, aar, andhu, Osai...' and 'paNiyaar andho saivar..'. This is known as 'yamakam'.
There is one class which is known as 'silEdai'. The same verse can be attributed to two or three different objects. The poet
KaaLamEgam was very adept at this.
Take this verse:
Odum irukkum uLvaay veLuththirukkum
naadum kulai thanukkE naaNaadhE.
This can mean either a coconut or a dog.
Coconut has a hard shell - Odum irukkum
uLvaay veLuththu irukkum - when it is broken, the inside is white.
naadum kulai thanukku naaNaadhE - the much-demanded and liked coconut is available in bunches(kulai).
The dog:
Odum - sometimes it runs
irukkum - or sometimes sits still
uLvaay veLuththirukkum - the lips of the dog are black; but the
inside of the mouth is lighter in colour.
naadum - it attaches itself to humans
kulai thanukku naaNaadhE - it is not ashamed of barking(kulai)
The grammatical rules governing the composition of poetry give a computation for 14,700 different word combinations.
There are many other such linguistic wizardry. So it is no jingoism or exaggeration when we say that. You have to know the
literature to understand it.
Its not only mere words wizardry. The words are impregnated with deep meanings. These people have touched almost every prevalent
subject. The truths and philosophies of life, down-to-the-earth type of realistic practical things..... everything has been treated.
The number of literary pieces that are still around now, are countless. Whatever is available is just a minute fraction of what
was produced earlier.
Let us go to the beginning......
to be continued...
- From: Adiyen (@ 203.106.162.251)
on: Thu Feb 21 08:38:56
As a mark of respect, would appreciate only educated and intelligent responses. Kindly refrain from flaming. TQ
- From: Brahmin Slayer (@ 203.199.231.15)
on: Sun Feb 24 03:21:19
Thamil Thata Iyerwall the parpana Dog is another aryan agent and vedic fraud and the product of incest between his father iyerwall and a Vedic Cow.
- From: Brahmin Slayer (@ 203.199.231.15)
on: Sun Feb 24 03:21:56
Thamil Thata Iyerwall the parpana Dog is another aryan agent and vedic fraud and the product of incest between his father iyerwall and a Vedic Cow.
- From: Brahmin Slayer (@ 203.199.231.15)
on: Sun Feb 24 03:26:01
Thamil Thata Iyerwall the parpana Dog is another aryan agent and vedic fraud and the product of incest between his father iyerwall and a Vedic Cow.
- From: Srini (@ 210-210-33-70.lan.sify.net)
on: Sun Feb 24 10:23:36
B S
"Adiyen" is a very rare participant, and he does not have any vested interest in promoting U.V.S. Iyer. Beleive me.
Those days, every Tamil leader/scholar used to sport his/her caste name as 'surname'. Don't get unnecessarily jaundiced by it. Rise above, and restrain your fingers from typing things you wouldn't do in any civilized face-to-face interaction in a fraternity.
When hatred clouds eyes and heart, reason gets out of sight. Please don't blind yourself, for it will hurt the way you look at things other than B too.
Adiyen,
A good effort, especially, for those who scarcely know Dr. Jaybee and even little about the nuances of Tamil language. Give B S a chance to (not) respond and proceed.
- From: aRudkO (@ 134.117.82.58)
on: Sun Feb 24 20:05:46
To Srini & Adiyen:
Srini, this act is by this veryan character who's causing trouble by 'chanakya methods' and it's bad many people fall trap for this. Baramin Slayer is little bit tempered personal with quick slurs but this veryan charaacter is verse. Please see my IP Address comparison below:
Veryian causing mischief:
here he tried to confuse people as though it' from MV and he paritally succeeded! please check yourself in the "for getting dowry" in Tamil history thread!
one of veryian's dirty trick:
From: Madurai Veriyan (@ 203.199.248.94) on: Sat Feb 23 11:44:57
note the IP address!
the real Brahmin Slayer's IP address is as follows:
From: Brahmin slayer (@ spider-loh-te032.proxy.aol.com) on: Sun Feb 17 19:36:33
you can visit the following link to see how cleverly this chanankya brahmin turned Brahmin Slayer agains partiotic Tamils like Mutthu, Viyayan & Thamilchelvan!
Warning the ingnorant Brahmin Slyer & this chanakya character exchanges in very dirty slurs!
http://www.forumhub.com/indhistory/1627.14.57.47.html
- From: aRudkO (@ 134.117.82.58)
on: Sun Feb 24 20:07:46
To Srini & Adiyen:
Srini, this act is by this veryan character who's causing trouble by 'chanakya methods' and it's bad many people fall trap for this. Baramin Slayer is little bit tempered personal with quick slurs but this veryan charaacter is verse. Please see my IP Address comparison below:
Veryian causing mischief:
here he tried to confuse people as though it' from MV and he paritally succeeded! please check yourself in the "for getting dowry" in Tamil history thread!
one of veryian's dirty trick:
From: Madurai Veriyan (@ 203.199.248.94) on: Sat Feb 23 11:44:57
note the IP address!
the real Brahmin Slayer's IP address is as follows:
From: Brahmin slayer (@ spider-loh-te032.proxy.aol.com) on: Sun Feb 17 19:36:33
you can visit the following link to see how cleverly this chanankya brahmin turned Brahmin Slayer agains partiotic Tamils like Mutthu, Viyayan & Thamilchelvan!
Warning the ingnorant Brahmin Slyer & this chanakya character exchanges in very dirty slurs!
http://www.forumhub.com/indhistory/1627.14.57.47.html
Even pazh. Nedumaran
- From: davie (@ engmcclure.utep.edu)
on: Sun Dec 19 15:10:10
tony is the thamizh thathaa
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