A Nation's Development and People's thinking
Topic started by Kickboxer (@ 1cust191.tnt41.bos2.da.uu.net) on Sat Mar 29 23:27:00 .
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The progress of a nation depends on the right economic policies, Buisness Strategies, natural resources, the type of government, etc.
If we look at all the nations that have'nt made much progress in the last fifty years, we can easily spot the reason WHY!
In most cases it is Religious fundamentalism, Even in most oil-rich nations, most people don't have the basic necessities of life and human rights, because the governments don't want them to become smarter and use religious fundamentalism as the tool to supress them. In nations like ours the people are always divided, either by caste or religions and spend their time and energy fighting with each other and never make progress (Every time I see a religious rally, I think, "Don't these people have jobs?"). And ofcourse communist nations are designed to starve people to death and deny human rights.
Is'nt it time for people to use some COMMON SENSE and not fall for those traps?. Even if we believe that our religion is the best, should'nt we keep that to ourselves and focus on making more progress? IT NEVER HURTS TO BE RICH
(Please do not attack any specific religion or caste. Give some constructive comments)
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- From: madhu (@ 199.67.140.80)
on: Fri Apr 4 11:48:42
Dear Kickboxer, Krishna and friends,
This is a good topic to discuss how to improve the lives of our people. Siddharth, karuvayan, mmc and other Brahminists are disrupting every thread on this forum with their garbage. Brahminists are only interested in staus quo and the preservation of Sanskrit and Brahmin domination. They have been doing this for the last three milleniums with some interuptions. Please ignore them and continue to discuss what actions are needed to improve our society. We have to make our society 100% literate, create full employemnet, encourage inter-caste and inter-religious marriages and preserve Dravidian languages and culture. We must reject sanskrit archanas, ritualism and superstition in our temples.
We have to take advantage of technology to help our people in education, healthcare, industrial development, transportaion etc. We have to think how to put a solar panel on every hut to generate electricty to meet the energy needs of that family. We have to bring internet connection to every village, every school and to every house to provide education and entertainment. We have to educate our people about family planning, against child marriages and child labor. We have to discuss reforestation, proper utilization of ground and flow water, and drip irrigation. We have to discuss the public health, nutrition and immunization. We have to treat every child born is a precious gift from god. These are the issue we need to discuss. Don't get distracted by Siddharth and his like minded RSS, VHP and Hiduvatavadi buddies. Let us not use foul language to counter their arguments. Stick to your positive message and you have have a lot to offer. God bless you!!!
- From: siddharth (@ sdn-ap-022njpennp0249.dialsprint.net)
on: Fri Apr 4 16:59:51
Congratulations. DR. Madhu is going to achieve education, health, internet usage and scientists with backward degrees. The only knowledge that is required is knowledge of Tamil cinemas. I am also for that and so I am at a loss to hear that even backward brothers are angry. Oh! you just do not want the rest of the world to know.
I agree with all that you have said except I will place buiding of statues, corruption at a higher priority.
Dr. Alphonso= please please do not banish me from F.H. You being a Dorai, I am now really scared. I am an unfortunate indian who did not see the light and in return never got a butler's uniform.
Dr. Krishna bin laden will be a great help in policy planning in education. I agree with him that Anna U. should not insist on written applications as many candidates for doctorate cannot write. As long as they have the required certificate and they can utter a few words, they should be awarded a degree. Some of us had to go to the 8th grade which is a real hardship.Dr. Alphonso is losing his touch. He is not using the language that was taught to him by his parents and teachers. Dr. Alphonso please show off so that we can admire you more.
- From: Alfonse (@ 213-145-174-180.dd.nextgentel.com)
on: Fri Apr 4 18:35:20
Dr. Sid,
I cannot banish you from this forum but I believe your psychiatrist will advise you not to exert that puny little thing in your head that goes by the name of your brain too much! :o) Hehehehe!
Pray tell me, does your head hurt when you try to think?
Your doctor seems to believe that you have a novel excretory system where your waste goes to your head first and then comes out through your mouth!
- From: Krishna (@ cache-syd-aa02.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Apr 4 23:45:10
Alfonse:
"..Your doctor seems to believe that you have a novel excretory system where your waste goes to your head first and then comes out through your mouth!.."
But the quantity of the shhit coming out of Shitartha's septic tank head is more than what his system could supply...I suspect he periodically refill his septic tank head with madras slum sewerage...thats how he deliver so much shhit...
Shhitarth ambi:
Pls do not go away ...we wanna show you as a typical specimen of brahminical muttal..or as Aryaan (tamil meaning muttal; padaryaan, padiparyaan...)
- From: Alfonse (@ 213-145-174-180.dd.nextgentel.com)
on: Sat Apr 5 01:15:07
//But the quantity of the shhit coming out of Shitartha's septic tank head is more than what his system could supply...I suspect he periodically refill his septic tank head with madras slum sewerage...thats how he deliver so much shhit... //
Krishna,
He refills from his fellow RSS weirdo pigs like MMCPannidevan and SoriNayan etc. They have too much $hit in them that they can loan some to Dr. Sid.
- From: tamilan-1 (@ startelcorp.com)
on: Sat Apr 5 13:07:12
Madhu,
It is a wonderful suggestion by you. You know, many times i wonder why our politicians can't allow people aged more than 28 to try for IAS/IFS/IPS services. As an NRI, i will be more than happy to try for IAS/IFS and execute the best practices in western nations. Also the experience of age would also help in extending useful services back to the community.
There are other ways NRI's can help people back home, such as
1. Pump dollars VIA RBI and not via hawala
2. Avoid corruption at airport
3. Sponsor indian children for their education
4. Sponsor schools back at home
5. Sponsor a village water tank back at home
6. Sponsor a village road back at home and get it named by the sponsor(kidding)
7. Sponsor a library in a village/city/school
8. Adopt indian orphans
9. Exert pressure on politicians to follow the best practices of other nations in the fields of basic health care, hygiene etc.
Do i do the above things. of course NO, its only for the readership to do!
- From: siddharth (@ sdn-ap-022njpennp0113.dialsprint.net)
on: Sun Apr 6 04:46:22
Nos 1 to 10 are to help the politicians to build houses. Instead NRI's should help the community they live in and not places where they left because of discrimination. The backward NRI cannot help anyway as most do not make enough for their own living doing menial jobs.
- From: Rohit (@ webcacheh09b.cache.pol.co.uk)
on: Sun Apr 6 09:42:03
Is it a 64-dollar question? Perhaps not, for an Indian, it’s a question of just few Rupees!
To be poor is not a sin, but it is a dreadful affliction; to be indifferent and hypocrite may be twice as much sin, but people world over do that without penalty. No matter how serious the transgression of humanity it may seem, godly punishments against those behaviours are no longer acting as a fear factor. In order to cultivate human gentleness, a society mustn’t rely on peoples’ fear of punishment, but people must fear from being ripped off of their dignity and respect, and poverty, apart from everything else, precisely does that, it rips people off of their dignity and respect.
I am doing all that I can to support the education of two boys in India, whom I know well and I have full confidence in them to do really well. It is sad that there is too much dependence on others to provide such helps; and that is why there is a serious need for general improvement in governance, political system and in the intellectual ability of the people, especially in countries like India.
- From: Rohit (@ webcacheh05a.cache.pol.co.uk)
on: Sun Apr 6 11:12:54
The uneven distribution of national wealth and the resulting per capita incomes; indirectly results in a varying degree of human development across the nation’s population. The following will provide an idea of our achievement (or the lack of it), 56 years after the Independence.
1. More than 409 million people live in subhuman conditions and they haven’t been able to cross the “0” mark in terms of “Human Development”. These people are those who live below the poverty line.
2. Over 600 million Indians live in conditions that are less than 80% human.
3. Less than 9 million Indians manage the life of fully developed humans.
- From: Prakash (@ adsl-18-244-197.gnv.bellsouth.net)
on: Sun Apr 6 11:49:00
It is a very good topic started by kickboxer,
Here is the simple idea. people in india should get rid of all these religious sentiments. For example, indian family will be ready to spend 1000 rupees for temple or church or mosque development and activities, but they will not spend 10 rupees on any poor family. This is common to all the indians irrespective of what religion they follow. This is just a indians mind set and has been followed for long years even before the moguls invasion where moguls just invaded india and looted all the wealths from the indian bank sector (temples). I live in USA, I always wonder about their culture, Though it is a christian country, no church activities or churches is predominant and disturbing public. One sad fact is indians are continiuing thier idoit culture even in USA by spending lot of thier money on religious activties. I guess, Simply all this mind set was developed by brahmins who are evils to indian society.
Prakash
- From: Kickboxer (@ ppp-219.65.112.207.chn.vsnl.net.in)
on: Wed Apr 9 05:08:16 EDT 2003
That's right, as Prakash said, Indians have to give more money to people who need it than giving it to some temple, mosque or church to 'wash away their sins'.
Indians have to learn to adopt the "Live and let live" policy, years of suppression and competition have messed up our minds and we always tend to push the other guy down rather than working towards our own development.
- From: Kickboxer (@ ppp-219.65.112.241.chn.vsnl.net.in)
on: Sun Apr 20 14:47:07 EDT 2003
I forgot to mention one thing, always vote for the right political party!
Don't vote for a corrupt leader, thinking only of your personal gains. Vote for someone who will do something good for your state and country.
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