AN INSIGHT INTO THE ORIGIN OF TAMIL SPEAKING VADUGAN PEOPLE LIVING NEAR MADURAI DIST OR OTHER PARTS OF TAMILNADU?
Topic started by Balaji (@ dynamic-030-035.natpool.uc.edu) on Thu Aug 30 18:54:52 .
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WHAT IS THE ORIGIN OF THE PRESENT TAMIL SPEAKING VADUGAN PEOPLE IN THE MADURAI DIST ESP. PLACES LIKE SEDAPATTI,THOTNAMBATTI,SINDHUPATTI,KUPPALNATHAM,ATHIPATTI,ETC???
IT SEEMS THEY ALL CAME FROM ANDHRA PRADESH DURING A PARTICULAR TIME PERIOD? WHEN? WHY?
PRESENTLY THEIR MAJOR OCCUPATION IS AGRICULTURE.WHAT WERE THEY DOING BEFORE?
Responses:
- From: rajaram (@ )
on: Sun May 25 06:48:45
ALIEN INVASION
The alienation of Tamils in Karnataka has indeed a blessing in disguise, as their intellect could rediscover the fallen Tamil from the debris of their history. Kannadigas have helped the Karnataka Tamils to open their eyes. What was the cause for the fragmentation of the Tamils into irreconcilable castes and the caste-based politics that taunt the Tamil country? What distorted the Tamils' national consciousness? A search into these domains taught that the alien invasions alone were the actual and primary cause for the peoples world over, and their becoming the oppressed. If so, whose invasions led to the fall and enslavement of the Tamils? Were they the so called "Aryan" invasions that came through the Khyber and Bolan passes as the European historiography had concocted? The probe began. Kannadigas indeed stand out as teachers to Tamils, by negative examples.
We find that most of the invasions on the Tamil country were from Karnataka. It began with the Kalabhra invasions around 250 A. D., and their pillage over the Tamil country for over three centuries. Then came the Chlaukya, Hoysala, and Vijayanagara Nayakka invasions on the Tamil land. The Telugu Pallavas ruled over theTamils after the Kalabhras.
Then came the question of studying the history of those alien invaders. We find in the Sangam Tamil Classics frequent references to a semi-barbarian and ferocious stock of people who roamed around beyond the Vénkadam (Thirupathi) hills. They served as mercenaries to many of the ancient States, particularly the Mauryas. They were called Vadugar in Tamil classics. These Vadugar got split into Eastern Vadugar and Western Vadugar, as was the case with the German barbarians breaking up into Eastern and Western Goths. The Eastern Vadugar gradually became Telugus. The Western Vadugar, who were called as Kósar in the Sangam literature, became the Kannadigas. The northern fraction of these Kósar were called as Mārattar; and they became the Marathis later. The northern segment of the Telugu Vadugar in Kalinga broke into Oddars or Oriyas. The first ever territory that the Kósar or the Kannada Vadugar occupied in the former Chera country was the Tulunādu, as the Tamil literary evidences tell. Then they came down to the present Mysore, then called as Erumainādu. It was thus called as it was conquered by a Vadugan called Erumai. He participated in the Thalaiyālankānam battle against Pandyan Nedunchezhiyan of the Sangam Age.
The successive invasions of these Vadugar barbarians and their overrunning the Chera, Chola and Pandya empires of the antiquity was the cause for the fall of the Tamils and their subjugation and classification into low class aborigines. Brahmanism, as an apartheid way of life, in fact, had its origin only in the Chera country (Kerala) through the legendary person in Parasurāma. Whereas the Aryan concept had its root in the north. The British colonial intellect confused Brahmanism with Aryanism, and had imposed a false historiography by branding Brahmanism as an import from the north. Though born down the extreme south in the Chera country, Brahmanism was carried into the Chola and Pandya countries only through the Kannada and Telugu (or the Vadugar) Brahmans. Manu Smruti, which was written in Karnataka, was adopted as the social code by the court of Pulikesi II, the Chalukya monarch. The Chalukyan epigraphical eulogies of mānavakula or Mānava Dharma would show it. It was the Vadugar colonisers who imposed birth-based caste discriminations and untouchability on the Tamils in the Chola and Pandya States.
These findings helped the enlightened among the Karnataka Tamils to disown and discredit the Dravidian ideology and rediscover their Tamil identity. So the beacon is now in the hands of the Karnataka Tamils.
- From: Harish Kumar (@ 203.195.215.254)
on: Sun May 25 10:34:04 EDT 2003
A good one.
- From: Harish Kumar (@ 203.195.215.254)
on: Sun May 25 10:37:48 EDT 2003
Now thats a really nice one.From N.I now kannadigas have become the cause of all tamils problem.
But even if we were responsibel for your caste roubles, it was we kannadigas , in the person of Periyar who freed you from the brahmin slavery , and opened your eyes to the exploitation.
So we haev done the prayaschit.OK ? Now cool down !
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