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31st May 2005, 06:45 PM
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Ramayana - Another Great Epic
Dear All,
Let's discuss about Ramayana, just like we have been discussing Mahabharath,in full depth, chapter by chapter.
Rama was Lord Vishnu's 9th avatar in Satya Yuga, prior to Dwarpara Yuga, in which Ram, Lakshman, Bharatha and Satrughna, were born to King Dhasratha and his 3 wives, Sumitra, Kaikeyi, and Kausalya in Ayodhya.
The epic evolves mainly Around Ram, Lakshman, bharatha,Sita and Last but NOT least Hanumanji, but not much importance was given Satrughna's character, any idea as to why?
The purpose of this incarnation of Lord Vishnu is to destroy evil Ravana a fanatical Mahewsar Bhaktha, Even though Ravana was evil, he did posses some noble qualities, such his extraordinary Maheswar Bhakthi, but these were outclassed by his evilness.
Shall we discuss his Noble qualities as well as evil qualities?
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31st May 2005 06:45 PM
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31st May 2005, 06:51 PM
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first of all this thread is created only to be torn into 100 pieces to give birth to new idiots to create once again the same to be bashed again and again.
Rama go off!!
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Close this thread!
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31st May 2005, 07:39 PM
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Dear Mr."Rama Yanava"
//.. first of all this thread is created only to be torn into 100 pieces to give birth to... "new idiots"... to create once again the same to be bashed again and again.//
So according to you .. WE ARE ALL ..... "NEW IDIOTS"...
Well ... please CLARIFY ... Who are the Old-idiots?... Does it include you ... or Not?.
...Or those who used to HURRIEDLY RECOMMEND to the Administrators..
.. to close any thread if they PERSONALLY don't RELISH others postings here?
Dear Mr. Gjnaani .. This Hub... is not YOUR EXCLUSIVE PROPERTY...
.. but common to all multi-faceted Hubbers of VARIED- TASTES, Faiths, Beliefs and Interests too
One Man's Food ...MAY BE... anothers Poison...
Ramayana is . the so called one of the Epics of SECULAR-INDIA.
Dear Friend... why did you not INTERFERE like this on Kamba- Ramayana also under this Hub?
Perhaps I am an IDIOT..since I am following in my Life..
... along with my some of my Christian and Muslim-Friends too...
.. .the GREAT -MORALS... as we were taught by our Tamil-Teacher Mr. Francis in our Tender-age ...
... further FORTIFIED in the Seminars and Books by the Justice Mr. Mohammad Ismail...
... more than my another Tamil- Scholar Teacher Mr. Govindasami Naicker.
// Rama go off!!//
If Rama can go off from the minds of Dr Solomon Paappiah. and Mr.
Dr Abdul-Kalam our India- President... as also from the Islamic Indonesia and Budhists Thailand... then we can think of this Great and WISE idea
//Close this thread!//
The Administrators of our Hub...are ... NOT IDIOTS as you mean but are Wise.
I reiterate...Dear Mr. Gjnaani .. This Hub... is not YOUR EXCLUSIVE PROPERTY
One Man's Food...MAY BE... another Man's Poison. !!!.
This Hub is a Five-Star Restaurant catering to the varied needs of GLOBAL- VISIORS
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31st May 2005, 07:47 PM
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Dear Sudhama Sir,
Can we please outline the Good Qualities of Ravana and all the negative qualities and the morals behind this.
Ravana though was an arrogant demon, he never thought him self to be equal to Maheswar unlike Banasur In Mahabharth who thought he was as powerful as mahaeswar.
Pls post your views on this sir, thanks
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31st May 2005, 07:53 PM
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Dear Mr. Raghu,
Why do you want to INAUGURATE this Glorious Thread... by INTRODUCING the Villain First prior to the Great Hero and Heroine of the Topic...
We will come to Ravanha too later on his Greatness on one Face alongside his other side Dark- Face.
Please start with the Hero of the Topic.
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31st May 2005, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by
Sudhaama
Dear Mr. Raghu,
Why do you want to INAUGURATE this Glorious Thread... by INTRODUCING the Villain First prior to the Great Hero and Heroine of the Topic...
We will come to Ravanha too later on his Greatness on one Face alongside his other side Dark- Face.
Please start with the Hero of the Topic.
Dear Sudhama sir,
Fine no problem, I will let you have the honours, pls start your post about Lord Rama and his noble character
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31st May 2005, 08:12 PM
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Rama is supposed to be an avataram of Lord Vishnu who behaves like a man.Unlike the Krishna avatar(which is said to be the complete TEACHER of DHARMA avatar),Rama makes lot of mistakes too just like any other human being.
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31st May 2005, 08:14 PM
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Copied and pasted from a website
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The one in whose memory yogis revel in the bliss of brahman' -- is the meaning of the word Rama. ramante yogino-nante brahmaanande chidaatmani -- is the declaration in the Padma-purana. 'ramante' (they revel, enjoy) is the action which forms the root verb for 'Rama'. The greatness of the word 'Rama' is not just because what the son of Dasaratha did what he did. Preceptor Vasishta hit upon the name for the child of Dasaratha because he knew that it was already a 'taaraka-mantra' -- that is, the mantra which takes you across the ocean of samsaara.
And that is why the name Rama has been isolated
and earmarked to be equivalent to
the whole of Vishnu sahasra-naama.
There are only two mantras,
in the whole of Hindu religious tradition,
which get the epithet 'taaraka' (that which can ferry you across);
and these are the syllable OM, and the name Rama.
This single fact epitomises the importance associated with Rama,
the name as well as the Godhead, in the entire Hindu cultural milieu.
The sage Valmiki before he became a Maharshi,
recited the name of Rama, several thousands of years
and attained the status of a maharshi.
The syllable 'ra' comes from the eight-lettered mantra of Narayana
and the syllable 'ma' comes from the five lettered mantra of Siva.
Both are the life-giving letters (= jiiva-aksharas) of the respective mantras;
because without them the two mantras become a curse.
Without these letters, the mantra naraayanaaya becomes
na ayanaaya - meaning, not for good;
and namas-sivaaya becomes
na sivaaya - meaning, again, not for good.
Thus the word Rama combines in itself the life-giving letters
of the two most important mantras of the Hindu religion .
The syllable 'ra' the moment it comes out of the tongue
purifies you from all the sins by the very fact that
it comes from the mantra of the protector, Naaraayana.
On the other hand,
the syllable 'ma' burns all the sins by the very fact that
it comes from the mantra of Siva, the destroyer.
This is therefore the King of all mantras,
the holy jewel of mantras,
as is rightly sung by Saint Thiagaraja,
who is one of the most famous recent historical examples of persons
who attained the jivan-miukti stage
- the released stage even while alive -
by the sheer repetition of the Rama name.
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31st May 2005, 08:42 PM
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Viggop
Good posts, esp about the mantras, now coming to your post about Rama commiting mistakes is some thing new to me, can you elaborate a bit more on all the mistakes he made?
thanks
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31st May 2005, 09:10 PM
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Raghu
He breaks the back of Kuni by sending arrows when he was just a boy.This is why she takes revenge on Rama by asking kaikeyi to make bharatha as king.
By man,i meant he never does any magic like Lord Krishna does.Krishna is a mayavi.Lord Rama faces all troubles like an ordinary man and overcomes them like ordinary men.
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