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Vaan MaRaith ThazhuvalgaL
Topic started by - By Oru Thamizhan (@ 66-188-91-109.mad.wi.charter.com) on Mon Jun 3 21:19:11 .
Thazhuval Sugamaana onru. Thazhuval engum ethilum eppothum undu. OnRin thazhuval innonRil velippadum.
Thazhuval pala vagaigalil undu. Vadivaththil thazhuval. Vaarththaiyil thazhuval. Nijaththil Thazhuval Nizhalil
thazhuval. Ilakkiyangalum itharkku vithi vilakkalla.
Enathu intha padaippum oru thazhuval thaan. Vaan maRaiyin Vadivaththai thazhuvi irukkiRen. IyanRavarai
Etho Iyambi irukkiRen. Ennaththil thavaru illai, Ezhuththil thavaru irukkalaam. Ethu iruppinum eduththu
iyambuga, ERRuk koLgiren.
- Oru Thamizhan
Akilam Padaithonae Aathi IRaiyonae
Arutperum Theyvae POtri!
Karuvaakki Uruvaakki Uthiram thannai
Unavaakkiya Thaayae POtri!
Illaar Kallaar Ollaar Avaniyil
Illaamal Seythal thalai!
Virainthae Vittagalum Nammai Udal
Varunthaa Vantha PoruL.
Nambikkaiyul NanNambikkai ThanNambikkai - AnNambikkai
Nambikkaiyul Ellaam Thalai
Emmozhi Chemmozhi Ammozhi KaRkkinum
Thaaymozhi Avatrul Thalaiye!
Aavinpaal Aattinpaal Anaiththinpaal Aayinum
Thaayinpaal SEykku Nalamey
Vaathum Soothum Vilaimaathum Mathuvum
Theethenak Kol Nenjaey!
Voon Koon Vizhunthaadip POyinum
Than Maanam POtru.
Saatruga Aatral Ninaivaatral - Avvaatral
Aatralul Yellaam Thalai.
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Oru Thamizhan (@ 66-1*) on: Mon Jun 3 21:21:35
Melum valarum
- oru thamizhan
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Govin (@ 203.*) on: Tue Jun 4 05:25:41
thamizhan kuRaL nallarukku!
itha paththukkum enna athikaaram veikkaporeenga?? entha paalil varum?
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Shakthi (@ bang*) on: Tue Jun 4 06:30:59
Romba complex language! Ungal range romba jaasti, naan comment
panna, irundalum edo ennal mudinda mattum..... ezhudugiren.
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Illaar Kallaar Ollaar Avaniyil
Illaamal Seythal thalai! "<<<<<<<<<<
illar sari....kallar sari....adenna Ollaar???
puriyavillai.
"Virainthae Vittagalum Nammai Udal
Varunthaa Vantha PoruL. "<<<<<
Varunthaa vantha porul? puriyavillai
"Voon Koon Vizhunthaadip POyinum
Than Maanam POtru. "<<<<<
I cant comprehend even a single word in that!!!!
matravai ellam miga nandru.
I cant go without noticing one more.....
"Aavinpaal Aattinpaal Anaiththinpaal Aayinum
Thaayinpaal SEykku Nalamey "<<<<<
AAvin.....namba aavin pal in paal dippo
AA ...... also means cow or pasu in tamizh.
Nalla tricky word. Enjoyable.
Thaangal ezhudiya, munnurai paditen.
Munnecherikaiyaaga oru munnuraiyo?
Munnuraiyilum kavadai nadai irukiradu.
VAazhtukkal.
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Govin (@ 203.*) on: Tue Jun 4 07:36:54
Shakthi,
In the absence of "Oru Thamizhan" let me try on his behalf........
>>>Illaar Kallaar Ollaar Avaniyil
Illaamal Seythal thalai! "<<<<<<<<<<
Ollar="present"?? (should have written as "ullaar") he is tryng to say "make the world such a place that there exists no person who dont have or who is uneducated"....
or he is trying to say "dont allow existance of 'not-have's or uneducated"????? :-))
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>>>Virainthae Vittagalum Nammai Udal
Varunthaa Vantha PoruL. <<<<<
I think this means "the things which reached us without hard work, will go away faster from us"
virainthe=faster
vittagalum nammai=go away from us
udal varunthaa = without physical work
poruL=things
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>>>>Voon Koon Vizhunthaadip POyinum
Than Maanam POtru. <<<<<
voon=body (should say "ooon" instead)
koon=bent
than maanam = self respect
he is trying to say "even your body is 'bent forward of old age' (--- huh, 'koon' ku english vaarthathai theriyalleppa --- its somethng like what avvayaar has-- ) take pride of your self respect! or 'dont loose self-respect'
matRathu ningalae sollitinga shakthi!!
ella doop-kuRaL kalum nandraakave irukkindRana!
naan sonnathil thappirunthaal mannikkavum, "oru Thamizhan"
Anbudan
Govin
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Oru Thamizhan (@ h216*) on: Tue Jun 4 11:58:44
Hello Govin,
Thanks for your comments and explanation. Everything were correct except one word. In tamil Ollaar means... pagaivar.
What I have mentioned in that poem was...
It will be good if we make this world with the non existance of Illaar (poor or powerty) Kallaar (uneducated or ingnorant) Ollaar (enemy or pagaivar).
You guys think this will happen? If it will... hmmmm
Govin,
"itha paththukkum enna athikaaram veikkaporeenga?? entha paalil varum?"
appadi oru ennam illai. More or less they are not relavent to each other. So i don't think so I can group them into one athigaaram.
Niraigalai Sonna nenjangalukku nanrigal. innum elimaiyaaga ezhutha muyalgiren.
Natpudan
Oru Thamizhan
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Shakthi (@ bang*) on: Tue Jun 4 12:47:30
Ollar! yeah now i got it pagaivar!
I was wondering why ullar illamal poganam?
Does not make sense right?
thx thamizhan.
By the way
"koon" in english is 'hunch'
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Vaanmathi (@ 203-*) on: Tue Jun 4 13:56:53
Hello Thamil ungal thazhuvalgal super. Meelum Thodara enathu vazhthugal entrum thotarum.
thotarum natputan ungal vaan
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Govin (@ 203.*) on: Wed Jun 5 04:10:18
is it, Thamizhan??? Ohhh, I never heard a word Ollar in Tamil.
Anyway.....
"Miscellanious" nnu adhikaaram vainghooo!!!
Thanks for the word "hunch" @shakthi.com
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shakthi (@ bang*) on: Wed Jun 5 05:41:34
govin,
"Thanks for the word "hunch" @shakthi.com"
Welcome!
Ollar is pronounced as
OO in oorugai
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Iyappan (@ lan-*) on: Wed Jun 5 08:57:00
Great work.. I dont have word to express .. but it is excellent
Iyappan
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Oru Thamizhan (@ 66-1*) on: Fri Jun 7 22:44:33
Thanks Mr. Iyappan...
InRaiya ThazhuvalgaL...
Selluga Sellidam SellidamaRinthu Aqthilaal
Sellin Sellaamai NanRu.
Puthiyana Konara Pazhaiyana Kazhikkinum
Nallana Athanil PEn.
Aakkantharum Ariviyal POtru - Athanudan
Vookkamtharum Ulaviyalbum POtru.
Vilai Maathar MOgam KondorNan
Nilai Kaanba tharithu.
Kaalaik Kathiroli Kaanbathu Nalamae
VElaiyaak kithanai Thinamae!
Thaanam KEttu Thammidam Vanthortham
Tharam Paarththal Izhivu.
Uthavigal Naadi Ummidam Vanthorulam
Uvagai AdaiyachChey Nenjae!
ARavazhi POtri Maraivazhi Nadanthaal
IRaivazhi Kaan baai.
Sinthaiyil Thooimai Seyalil Semmai
Vaakkil Valimai VEndum.
Puzhuvinam EnRaalum Athanai VOr
Uyirinam EnREk Karuthu.
Natpudan
Oru Thamizhan
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Govin (@ 203.*) on: Sat Jun 8 06:07:20
Santhegame illai....
intha aalu muRpiRavila panai Olaile ezhuththaani vechi ezhiuthinavar thaan!!
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Oru Thamizhan (@ 66-1*) on: Mon Jun 10 01:40:08
NanRigaL Govin
Etho therinchadha ezutharen. Merugetrungal... UruvaagiRen...Unnathamaai.
Natpudan
Oru Thamizhan
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Iyappan (@ lan-*) on: Mon Jun 10 04:58:48
THamizarukku..
Neengal ezuthiuilladhu miga arumai.. anal thazuval endru solla iyalathu .. ithu kuralukkana ilakkanathai udayathu. adhu mattumillamal neengal avarudaya karuthukkalai eduthu kailalavillai. kural yaar ezuthinaalum adhu kural than. aagave ithu vaanmarai thazuval enbadhai vida kural venbavendre kooralam. neengal mattumillai avvaiyarum kural ezuthiyullar.. matrum niraya per ezuthiyirukkirargal.. avaigal thazuval endru solla agadhahu pol ithu thani thaguthi udayadhu.. enbadhu ennudaya karuthu. Tavariruppin mannikka.
Vazthukkal.. niraya ezuthi adhai vagaipaduthungal.
Anbudan Iya
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Oru Thamizhan (@ 66-1*) on: Sat Jun 15 01:23:29
Thanks Mr Iyappan,
Ezhuthalaam aanaal Vagaip Paduththa thaan theriyaathu. Ungal vaarthaigal enakku nambigai alippathaay uLLathu. NanRigal.
Ini Todarum ThazuvalgaL....
SaaRRuga AaRRal NinaivaaRRal - avvaaRRal
AaRRaluL ellaam thalai.
PORRiduvom namaippeRRavar thammai - PORRidin
PORRapaduvam NaampeRRavar thammaal
KaRRathil Perumai Yaathenil YaathonRum
KaRRathil MaRavaa thiruththal
URRavar ERRam NaRRathuvaayin - ARRavar
EaRRam eRRaikkum PORRu.
URRavareRRa NaRRathu vaaRRin ARRavarOdu
ERRangaanum NamMun nERRam.
aRRana aRRavar AaRRuvar - AaRRaathaar
naRRana kaRRavar aRRavar.
muRRathum aRRavar Yaarumillai - iRaip
paRRathu paRRina raayin.
SiRRinam Virumbith thaanaaych ChenRavar
PuRRinul VittaKai POlaavar.
KoRRava naaRRinum KuRRam KuRRamae
aRRavai maaRRin EaRRamae.
VooRRam uRRavar VoonRuvar Ulagil
eRRum EaRRam kaNdae.
UngaL VaarppugaLukkaay Kaaththirukkum...
Oru Thamizhan
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Oru Thamizhan (@ 66-1*) on: Sat Jun 15 01:28:13
Konjam Vallinaththila Ezhuthip paarkkalaam nu thonuchu athaan ippadi vandhuduchu... thavaru iruppin mannikka maRRum Iyambuga... EaRRu KoLgiREn.
Natpudan
Oru Thamizhan
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Oru Thamizhan (@ 66-1*) on: Fri Jul 5 18:04:47
Thodarum ThazhuvalgaL...!
Kadanthathu Kasanthathu vaayin - ULamaaRa
MaRappathu Maenmai tharum.
EpporuL Eppadip Paarkkinum - ApporuLin
NaRporuL KaaNbathu Nalamae.
Ellaaa ooNamum ooNamalla - ookkam
KoLLaa uLLamae ooNamaagum.
Naamadai Vetriyaal NaamaRivathu Yaathenil
Nammaal Yaadhum Koodumenal.
Evaraalum Ethuvum Eythuthal Eagumenil
Ennaalum Ethuvum Eagumaam.
ThiNNiya VeNNam ENNiya VaNNam
ENNiya thaaRRal Uyarvu.
PattaRinthaar PattuNarum Padippinai Yaavum
PattamaRinthaar Paarinil PeRuvathillai.
Anubavam ALikkum ARivinaik KoNdu
Anuthinam Aakkanbil Vaazhkkai.
NOkkin NOkkuga Aakkanthannai - Aqthilaal
NOkkin NOkkaamai NanRu.
Thannilai NOkkith TholainOkki AaRRuvaar
Nannilai KaaNba theLithu.
ThazhuvalgaL Thodarum...
-- Natpudan --
Oru Thamizhan
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Sheik (@ ) on: Mon Oct 7 18:37:04
Thodarum ThazhuvalgaL...
YEmaatran galinuLLum MaatrangaLundu - Am
Maatrran galinaalummun nEtrangaLundu.
Uzhuvathaal Azhuvathillai Aakkamtharum Nilam
Vizhuvathaal Azhuvathillai Aakkunar.
Veezhnthidinum VaazhvaLikkum Mazhaipolath Thannilai
Thaazhnthidinum Tharankedaarp Periyar.
Muyarchiyenum Paalaththin NeeLamkuRaivE -AdaithaRkkum
Ayarchikkum IdaiyuLLa Tholaivaivida.
Amarnthiruppin Ezhunthidu Ezhunthiruppin Nadanthidu
Nadanthiruppin VOduVodin VEgamaayOdu.
Kaariyangal Thanakkaa yaabavanaagaathE - Thannaal
Kaariyangal Aakkubava naaayiru.
Agamathil VEdhanai yaagilum Kaattuvar
Mugamathil Punnagai PeriyOr.
Ooonudam pazhinthitrup POgumvarai MaNNil
Maanudam POtru Manamae.
Venjinam thannaith thanjamaai kondOn
Nenjazhiyum nErmai izhandhu.
Virunthuk kenRaalum madhuvarunthaa thirunthaal
Marunthuk kennathEvai Sol?
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Sheik (@ ) on: Wed Jun 4 18:33:17
Eppozhudhum NaRpozhudhaay Namakkaaga vENdumenil
Appozhudhai NaRpozhudhaay NaamaakkavENdum.
Natpudan
Sheik
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Hariharan (@ 61.1*) on: Thu Jun 5 02:21:15 EDT 2003
ThaZhuval IdhamaaGa IrukkiraDhu :-)
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Anand (@ o192*) on: Thu Jun 5 04:43:47 EDT 2003
thazhuval nandru...iruppinum sila idanggalil vazhukkal...oruvehlai enakkuthaan puriyavillai pohlum!
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Sheik (@ 167.*) on: Thu Jun 5 11:48:58 EDT 2003
InRaiya thazhuval....
Nanbartham Nannenjam NamakkuNartthum Namsakthi
Naamadhai uNaraaa thiruppin.
Hariharan and Anand,
Thanks for your comments and Anand, could you please tell me, enga intha thazhuvalgal vazhukkalgalaaga irukkirathenru? example of any thazhuvals, So that I can correct myself and able to give better thazhuvals.
Thanks
Natpudan
Sheik
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akil (@ aca1*) on: Sun Jun 8 09:37:38 EDT 2003
kurals are very nice. good effort.
iyappan,
i do agree, u don't have to say it as 'thazhuval', as long as it fits the grammer of kural venbaa and it gives a concept different from valluvar's thirukkural.
i know all these kurals have 4 words in first line and 3 words in last line (like anyother venbaa). but its long since, i forgot my venbaa ilakkanam (ner mun nirai etc.). please clarify whether these kurals fit that grammer. ( i doubt so. i will really admire very much, if they do.). also some kurals ending like 'ellaam thalai' do mimic thirukkural's style. so, its worth calling them 'thazhuval'.
whatever it is - thazhuval or not - most of them are very nice and there is an array of good tamil vocabulary.
sheik,
could u please tell me..
oru thamizhan = sheik ?
if so, could u please give me the list of all ur nicks. i like most of ur creations. so, it will be easy for me to track them.
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Sheik (@ h216*) on: Mon Jun 9 08:41:05 EDT 2003
Akil,
Thank you very much for your comments. Even I don't remember the grammer of anything. Its been long time. I just tried to give my message in 7 words similar to THIRU KURAL. But some times it may not fall under that category and some of them are very long. I am trying my best to give short and crisp. Any way once again thanks for your comments.
Yeah you are right
Sheik = Oru Thamizhan = Kalai Mugilan = Ponniyin Selvan = DD = SD = paavaadai. Thats all I do remember now :).
There might be many reasons behind them to have many nicks. But I do very often use oru thamizhan, kalai mugilan and Sheik.
I am really very happy to hear that you like my creations.
Thodarum Natpudan.
Sheik
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Sheik (@ h216*) on: Mon Jun 9 08:44:20 EDT 2003
and InRaiya Thazhuval...
Magizhchiyin Magatthuvam MaRRavar Magizhchiyil
Magizhchiyai thaanumkaaN bathuvaagum.
Thodarum Natpudan
Sheik
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Hariharan (@ 61.1*) on: Tue Jun 10 01:54:57 EDT 2003
Hmmm...Kalakkals!
If I had a bus, I would have probably put one of your ThaZhuvals at the back of the Board - in front of the Driver - just for a trial run :-)
Nice Man!
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Sheik (@ h216*) on: Wed Jun 11 09:12:42 EDT 2003
Thanks Hari,
and today's thazhuval....
KaLaiMandum Kaalpadaa Vazhitthadam pOlaagum
Thodarbillaa thOzhartham Natpu.
the above was a thazhuval from an english quote read somewhere...
Thodarum Natpudan
Sheik
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malligai (@ dial*) on: Wed Jun 11 13:26:11 EDT 2003
"KaLaiMandum"---what is this??...puriyalai...
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Sheik (@ 167.*) on: Wed Jun 11 17:29:40 EDT 2003
KaLaiMaNdum = KaLai + MaNdum = KaLai = unwanted plants (puthar, weeds, bush, etc... and maNdum = valarum, choke, etc, ok mean it like this puthar adarnthu ubayogam illaamal poga koodiya vazhi paadhai pola aagividum, thodarbillaamal irukkum naNbagalin natpu.)
enna maNdu(m) purichudhaa?....
hahahaha .lol...
Natpudan
Sheik
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Sheik (@ 167.*) on: Wed Jun 11 17:40:09 EDT 2003
oops I forgot to give the full meaning....
Oru paadhai irukkunnu vachukkunga... antha paadhaiyila manithargal nadakkaama irunthaa athaavathu manithargalin kaal padaamale irunthaal (don't ask appo any vehicle andha paadhaiyila pochunna appadinnu) andha paadhaiyila pala vagai pul, poondu, sedi, kodigal, thevai illaa thaavarangal (kaLai), etc, etc valarnthu antha paadhai ubayogap padaamal poividum, athu pola, thodarbe illaamal irukkum nanbargalin natpum aagi vidum appadinnu artham.
athanaala appo appo unga friends kitta contact vachukkunga enna sariyaa? athanaala thaan naan ungakitta adikkadi contact vachukkiren in this forum. lol. Melum vivarangalukku anuga vendiya mugavari... www.ask-to-sheik.com
Natpudan
Sheik
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malligai (@ dial*) on: Wed Jun 11 20:01:59 EDT 2003
"Oru paadhai irukkunnu vachukkunga"---
hellooo...etho oru vaarthai puriyalainu keta athukaga ipadithaan 'oru oorla oru amma appa'-nu aarambikaratha???
"enna maNdu(m) purichudhaa?"---grrrrrrrrrrrrr...mmm gavanichukaren!!!
amam, maNdum = valarum is ok...athu ena 'choke'...like choke to death??...haha..
www.ask-to-sheik.com --ipadi oru service kooda unda?
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malligai (@ dial*) on: Wed Jun 11 20:04:40 EDT 2003
Sheik = Oru Thamizhan = Kalai Mugilan = Ponniyin Selvan = DD = SD = paavaadai
---oru muGa moodiku mel ethuku pala muGa moodighal??
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Sheik (@ h216*) on: Mon Jun 16 09:10:43 EDT 2003
Malli,
>>>> ---oru muGa moodiku mel ethuku pala muGa moodighal?? <<<<<
ithaiye thaan naan elloridamum kettu kittu irukken. no answer so far. Moodaa mugangalai vida moodiya mugangal mel.
Inraiya thazhuval....
SiRanthathu Selvatthai sErtthal - athanilum
SiRanthathu illaarkkathai eetthal.
Natpudan
Sheik
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malligai (@ dial*) on: Tue Jun 17 13:54:02 EDT 2003
wow...agreed 100% Sheik...migavum alagaha soli irukeenga!!
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Sheik (@ 167.*) on: Wed Jun 18 17:26:40 EDT 2003
Malli,
Thanks that you are 100% agreeing with me. Neenga enga irukkinga nu sollve illaiye. Unga postings, neenga Denver la irukkarathaa solluthu.
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Sheik (@ h216*) on: Thu Jun 19 10:32:06 EDT 2003
InRaiaya thazhuval....
Etthunai MozhigaL Mannilirunthaalum - MozhigaL
Atthanaiyum pEsumOr Punnagai.
---- or ----
Pallaayiram mozhigal PaariniluNdu - Aayinum
Anaitthaiyum pEsumOr Punnagai.
ethu nallaa irukkunnu neenga sollunga athai ezhuthi vachukiren.
Natpudan
Sheik
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Govin (@ 203.*) on: Fri Jun 20 03:34:40 EDT 2003
Thazhuvalkal anaiththumae sooper Sheik.
So... inthe pala mugangal / muga moodikal ellaam ungalodathu thaanaa??
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Sheik (@ 167.*) on: Fri Jun 20 15:43:04 EDT 2003
Govin,
Thank you very much. hmmmm enna seyrathu sila nerangalil pala mugangal kaatta vendi ullathu. Pala nerangalil pala muga moodigal aniya vendiyullathu.... :)
Natpudan
Sheik
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malligai (@ dial*) on: Mon Jun 23 17:02:45 EDT 2003
DD, ilai ilai i am in india actually...chennai to be exact...but enavo epothum "denver"nu varuthu...i must check my connection...(haha!!)
(ss..i am in denver..)