Hi Sathyakabali, Iam sure " "ivaL unai ninaiththapOthE adakkuvaaLayyA" FROM 4DAYS is by VJ and not LRE.
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Hi Sathyakabali, Iam sure " "ivaL unai ninaiththapOthE adakkuvaaLayyA" FROM 4DAYS is by VJ and not LRE.
Sathyakabali,
1. what other songs sung by State bank Krishnan?
2. "ivaL unai ninaiththapOthE adakkuvaaLayyA" is by VJ for Ramaprabha in 47 NatkkaL.
3. LRE's solo in 47 NatklaL is still a ? (but there is one)
thumbru , SN23
ivaL unai song kEttu romba naaLachchu. casette irukku. thEdugiREn. athil LRE song irunthAl solREn.
padaththin titlesil arimugam State bank Krishnan enRu vanthathu. nallA spashtamaana uchcharippu. avar vERu enna pAdinaarnu theriyalai.
Neel D / Sathyakabali -
Many thanks for the replies. I was the source of the confusion - I thought the solo was by LRE - I merged it with Aanandha Thadavmo (another KB / JP collaboration.) The 47 Naatkal solo is by VJ, and it is Ival Unnai. Nice to be able to rely on you all to sort my memory mix-ups!
And, I agree : State Bank Krishnan has a great style, and his rendition of those slokas in Aaththoram Kodiveedu is spotlessly individual.
I haven't heard Ival Unnai in many, many years. Ditto for Ithu Unthan Veettukili Thaan. Nice to be amidst fellow obscurists?
:)
Hi
song from MADURAI MEETA SUNDARA PANDIYAN.
THENDRALIL AADUM KOOTHALI KANDEN. KJ&VJ .
song from MEENAVA NANBAN.
POONGUM KADAL OOSAI.
Above songs from our MELLISAI MANNAR.
Sorry if someone already pointed out these two numbers
umaramesh
I forgot to mention old melody (SPB-VJ) ANBU MEGAMAY INGU OODIVAA from the film ENGAMMA SABATHAM.
Music by VIJAYA BHASKAR.
What a song.
uma ramesh
Naaz,
47 naatkalil LRE song irukku - antha pattil saratbabum varuvaar. vijay tvil meendum telecast seiyum pothu paarththu solgiren.
Neel D / yvsmani / all -
Have you heard this solo: "Eraal Meenu Paaru, Nalla Sora Meenu Paaru..."?
Would you have any details regarding this song - padam padagar isai? Caught in that "loop" again - what can I say?
Digression:
If anybody has a song file for "Anbu Nadamaadum Kalai Koodamae" (or know a site on the net where it can be heard) please send me a PM? Thanks!
Naaz,
Don't be asking such difficult questions. I don't have an answer. Never heard that song before.
Neel D -
I have a vague feeling that the "fishy" song was sung by VJ...and, trust me, the song does exist!
The other duet I was asking about is from Avanthaan Manithan, but I don't have the song file :-(
RR -
Thanks for the link. I'll check it out.
Coolgoose has morphed into Cooltoad? Aandava! :roll:
Hi all,
Hope you had a chance to see the programme Sangamam on Vijay TV last Saturday (Dec 17th). This is a programme hosted by singer Mathangi featuring one or two singers each week. Last week it was Vani Jairam and I was immediately reminded of her fans in this forum (esp Naaz). Her vocal prowess has not diminished a bit with age (maybe due to the constant practice) and the range of songs that figured on the programme were also nice - included her film songs, ghazals (in diff languages) and other variety of songs. There is a repeat telecast on Sunday evenings too. But I guess that will be after a few weeks.
Ravi[/i]
Ravi_odiyur -
No, I did not get to see it, but would be great if you can share/provide more details about the programme and the list of songs etc. Thanks for sharing this bit of news, I had no idea about the show.
VJ was on Vijay TV again the Friday before New Year's on Sangeetha Sangamam. It was a half hour of semi-classical songs in various languages. Wish it had lasted one hour like it did for some other singers on the same programme series. VJ's performance was absolutely wonderful, as always.
Also VJ started off the New Year for Sun TV at 6:00 am with a devotional concert. I missed this concert unfortunately.
http://www.salilda.com/filmsongs/malayalam/aparadhi.asp
Enjoy two beautiful Malayalam duets by VJ - one with Jolly Abraham and one with KJY.
While these two duets are lovely, some songs have something in them to deserve the phrase "just out of this world", like the VJ-KJY duet below.
http://www.salilda.com/filmsongs/mal...raasaleela.asp
AV -
Thanks for the links. The duet with JA is typical SC: Melody with a built-in contrapuntal device! Brisk with JA and undulating with VJ - the move to Maamalaiyile...with the chorus, is inspired.
While at the SC site, I also discovered two solos by VJ for him in the film, Daisy. Click the hindi list to locate the songs.
Good to see you around here again.
Neel D -
I hope you don't mind if I continue the discussion of the Savitri song here.
Your analysis was contextual, and your take on the song was spot-on, particularly the emphasis on how "acceptance of fate" becomes the most benign form of violence for women like Savitri. That was truly the case in the film, a remake of Bharathan's "Payanam."
My reading of Kannadasan's lyric is perhaps a little more cynical than yours, and if you don't mind, I'd like to give you my precis on the verses of KD.
Right from the get go, the song establishes its cross-referential leanings. The text is The Ramayana, and KD wants to explore its contemporary ramifications. While the song is specific to Savitri's predicament in the film, it seems unimportant to the listener who knows nothing about the story. After all, the story that the song tries to deconstruct is a well known one, and that's the only requirement.
The song seems to validate the text on the surface, but under it lie a series of rhetorical strategies that are a true KD marvel.
We are taken into the song with a vow, yet KD immediately reminds the listener that that is from a book. Things in life are very different (in the film that turns out to be Savitri's marriage to a man old enough to be her grandfather) but still the path of literature is filled with such "role models" (mostly) for women.
The illusory (or unreal) nature of this adherence to mythology is further demolished when KD does not excuse even the deity Rama from implications of "choice." He who didn't know the difference between a fake deer and a real one, that "role model" is also made suddenly human. Fate or (In) Fallibility? A woman of 20 and a man of 55? As I said, the song is morally ambivalent throughout.
When antiquated notions of modesty and servility are the implied norm, then "marriage" becomes a defeatist enagagement. The influence of textuality is distilled first into an image of fertility - Gangaiyil Yamunaiyil Puthu Vellam..." - just the stage of youth and promise and abundance that Savitri holds within her, and KD instantly turns the verse into a forked tongue on those who would stand by and celebrate such a marriage as duty and not (in)justice. What is crucial is that everybody is following a certain textual "role model", both the givers and the givens in marriage.
"Managayar Vaazhnaalil Manavinai...Manathugal Kulirgindrana..."
It is interesting to note that Savitri does not include her own personal sense of "happiness" in her conclusion. How could such violence warm human hearts? She moves it outward, erasing her singularity and privileging plurality (note the collective in the above lyric) acknowledging her effacement in the name of "adherence."
"Mangalam Kuraiyaamal, Manjallum Azhiyaamal Vaazvathu Nalamallavaa?" Just as she has been "taught" to believe that she should seek happiness from "within," (even in the most oppressive and emotionally annihilating of circumstances from without,) Savitri ends the line with rhetorical ambiguity: "Nalamallavaa?" According to the texts, and those who fundamentally believe in it, yes, of course, it is for the good. But the interrogation here is of the Marriage=Duty/Obligation permise, and hence, more about Savitri's husband, the old man (and, quite literally, the "patriarch") and his power as "status-giver." And not just of him, but also of the chorus of high-priest backers who endorse this textuality through repetition:
"Manavinai Naalandru Vaethiyar Palar Sollum Manthiram Adhu Allavaa?"
Again, "isn't that what they say/chant?" (note the collective)
The song that begins with one big text, moves to another, bigger tome. Kannadasan makes Savitri both the subject and the object of that moral - albeit literary - standard in contemporary times, an exile without exit.
Now don't get me started on Savitri and all the mythic baggage that name carries! :D
Naaz,
Good post. My write-up was not necessarily an analysis. It was just an explanation of the way I saw it. When I say "it", I mean the song situation, the composition, the song lines and the rendition. I am not passing any judgement about Savitiri's story or fate. It was just an appreciation of the artistry involved in making that song.
As for Kannadasan's lines, I think he has well exposed the ugliness of the society which justifies unfair practices as values. Isn't that the purpose of the whole movie, anyway? Also, Kannadasan, or any film songwriter, should not be held accountable for the lines they write for film songs. Film songwriters are just trying to put together Director's thoughts and composer's ideas into few poetic lines under strict metrics. It is a very difficult job. Well, it used to be a difficult job up until some 15 years ago :-)
Hi,
Looooooong ago, there was a devotional album from VJ in which there are songs like 'Madurai Arasilangkiliye, oru mangala vaazhvenakku aliyaen'. Would be glad if someone has any link to download the same.
Also, any links for SJ devotional songs like 'annapoorani easwari, aadhi nee maheswari'... and LRAnjali album with songs like 'Kaanak kaana inbam tharum raathiri'.
TIA.
Vj.
vanijayaram's musical night
http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/t...ents/8991.html
Launch videos and enjoy
Thanks rajesh!
By the way who is that SPB clone that was singing the songs?
Bala
rajeshkrv -
Thanks for the link. I'll watch the video sometime soon!
rajeshkrv,
Thank you so much for the link.
I heard some of the clips, and VJ's alaap in "bole re papihara" was awesome. It was original (maybe a spontaneous improvisation?) as it's definitely not part of the original composition. Do give it a listen.
I haven't heard very many of VJ's live concerts, but there is a Bhajan sudha recording that I have been in love with. The song is Indira Namamu, in which VJ improvises a few lines.
Neel D / AV / All -
Have you heard about this?
http://www.fetna2006.org/programme.html
Has anyone here attended their past events?
Naaz
Naaz,
Yes, I have. It is a wonderful opportunity for music fans in North America. Book your tickets now!
Neel D -
I checked the website for fetna, but could find no info on concerts in other cities. I wonder if it is just one city? VJ and HR - would sure be nice to hear both of them sing a duet!
Naaz,
I don't know about concerts in other cities either. If I find out anything I will post it here.
Neel D -
There is a list of Tamizh Sangams at the website. I just thought they might organize some concerts on the west coast? :D
Just the other day I was listening to Ethirkaalamae Enadhu Kaiyile, don't know who the composer is. If it is SG, it is a real original that has been overlooked. A (cinematic) semi-classical, but done without too much adornment. A free-flowing arrangement, and no drums! What a nice solo! We should make a list of these rare ones that even VJ might/does not remember.
Keep me posted if get more info please.
Naaz,
Yes, "ethirkAlamE enathu kaiyilE" is a good song. I think it is from a Vijayashanti movie. Or, may be it is just my imagination.
Do you have any details on "mAligai AnAlum malarvanam AnAlum"?
Neel D -
Don't ask me why, but whenever I think Vijayashanti in tamizh, I think "dubbing" padam! :D Although her debut was a tamizh film!
Maligai...Malarvanam song is new to me! I knew I shouldn't start this, but a whole bunch of VJ songs have suddenly surfaced in my memory, thanks to the VJ-SPB week at the other thread.
"Kaadhal Ennum Palli Arai Naadagam Dhaan Sarasam" Have you heard this? I remember it was a Radha feature, can't recall the name of the film rightaway. And another one, "Iru Kannil Meenaatichiyo" a VK/Nalini duet, but no other details. One more and I'll stop for now, "Madhurai Nagarinile, Meenaal Ninaivinile (?)" this one had Nalini again...ok, maybe. :P
While the above are duets, here's a rare VJ solo for IR that's an asbolute zero on data "Oru Poongkodikku Aadai Katti..." Maybe...a VK film? :P
Naaz,
Two more lines... ring a bell?
mALigai AnAlum malarvanm AnAlum
jAnaki rAmanin pinnOdu - en
jAdhagam eppOdhum unnOdu
Neel D -
The problem sometimes is this: The words look flat on the screen, and unless I get the tune in my head, I cannot fit the words! It happens to me a lot when I see the first two letters of the POTW in the main home page. I have no idea what the words lead to, but when I hear the opening bars in my head, the whole verse falls into place (or plate) like a crisp, nonsticky waffle! However, that does not mean that I can simultaneously recall the title or actors or plots or MDs, even if I have the stuff noted down somewhere!
These days I have to look up stuff to remember! Must be those Memory pieces I've been working on for the Mag!
I still have no idea how the Maliggai Aanaalum line works as a tune...
Was wondering what it would be like if VJ / HR sang the SG duet "Mazhaiyae En Meedhu Thoovaadhae" Sounds nice already! :D :
Neel D -
Do Fetna record or televise their shows? I have no idea if these shows are televised (by Jaya, Sun etc) for local audiences? At least the whole event seems well organized on paper!
Naaz, Neel D : recently saw the song in Jaya tv, ethirkaalamae enathu kaiyilae. It was by Maadhavi and not vijayashanthi. the movie came in 82 / 83.
Thanks yvsmani.
Neel,
Is it the song from this page (vazhga google ;) )
Few of my favourite VJ hits:
Malligai En Mannan (first song ?)
Ennullil Engo
Yaaradhu Sollamal Nenjalli
Inraikku Yein Indha
Kelviyin Nayagane
mathappadi..not aware of many of her songs. should read through this thread to know many.
yvsmani -
You are correct. That song is from the film Sattaththukku Oru Savaal (dubbing?? :P ) featuring Maadhavi. I heard it few days ago, and I still had to look up the details. Chatt-nnu Nyabagam Varra Naalellaam Pochchu! :( These days I am glad if I can remember the first line of a song without listening to the tune!!
Thanks for the correction.
Neel D -
Ithuvarai Sivaraaththiri is another solo that is a good (obscure) one. Nobody seems to have it though!
That is the film which had TV actress Janavi as Madhavi's sister and banuchander as the hero/villain
Madhavi takes revenge on banuchander
( it was dubbed and remade few portions were shot in tamil too . this is clear if you observe the lip sync )