P_R :lol: I thought the agenda was totally different, for Kamal, it was: "credit where it's due". Kamal theliva pesinalum tappu, ularunAlum tappu, in-between squeeze panninAlum tappu. Ada pOnggapa....
P_R :lol: I thought the agenda was totally different, for Kamal, it was: "credit where it's due". Kamal theliva pesinalum tappu, ularunAlum tappu, in-between squeeze panninAlum tappu. Ada pOnggapa....
Kamal.. :clap: for write up on nayagan 25..
http://tamil.oneindia.in/movies/news...al-163555.html
மணிரத்னம் இயக்கத்தில் கமல்ஹாசன் நடித்த படம் ‘நாயகன். இதை முதலில் முக்தா சீனிவாசன் தயாரித்தார். பின்னர் ஜிவியின் சுஜாதா பிலிம்ஸுக்குக் கைமாறியது.இப்படம் உருவாகி 25 வருடம் ஆனதையடுத்து ஆங்கில பத்திரிகையொன்றில் கமல் ஒரு கட்டுரை எழுதினார்.
அதில், ‘முக்தா சீனிவாசனின் நிறுவனத்துக்காக நாயகன் படம் நடிக்க முடிவு செய்தேன். மணிரத்னம் இயக்கினார். மும்பையில் ஷூட்டிங் என்றதும் சற்று தயக்கம் காட்டி சீனிவாசன் சம்மதித்தார். பின்னர் சண்டை காட்சிகளை சர்வதேச தரத்துடன் எடுக்க இயக்குனர் முடிவு செய்தபோது அதற்கு சீனிவாசன் சம்மதிக்கவில்லை. பட்ஜெட்டை தாண்டி செலவு செய்ய முடியாது," என்று கூறிவிட்டார் என்று குறிப்பிட்டிருந்தார்.
இதற்கு முக்தா சீனிவாசன் கண்டனம் தெரிவித்துள்ளார். கமல் கூறியதில் உண்மையில்லை என்றும், அவர் தன் மேதைமையைக் காட்ட என்னை சிறுமைப்படுத்துகிறார் என்றும் கூறினார்.
மேலும் கமல் மீது மான நஷ்ட வழக்கு தொடரப்போவதாகக் கூறி கமலுக்கு வக்கீல் நோட்டீஸ் அனுப்பியுள்ளார்.
Sakala, I read ur reply to Muktha Ravi's pulambal post. :clap:
circa 1987 - Nayagan shooting spot - Kamak to MR and MS (who happened to be there to check the progress of the shooting) : "naan konjam bathroom poganum - excuse me" - MR "pls go ahead", MS "irunga, naan avasaramaa vera velaikku poganum, indha scenea mattum innum oru take eduthadhukkapparam neenga bathroom pogalaam", Kamal "yenna sir, idhellaam adakka mudiyaadhu - romba urgent", MR "yes he is right - pogattum", MS "adheppadi, naan padathhoda thayaarippaalar kutthukkallaattam irukken, yenakkey avvalavo avasaramaa bathroom pora madhiri illa, kamalukku yeppadi appadi thonaalaam ?", Kamal "ippa naan pogalanna, namma ellarukkumey dharma sangadam - vittrungalen", MR "avar solradhu makes sense, let him go - apparam, unga budget will have to include additional laundry charges (to clean up kamal's costume) and room freshener", MS "naan sollikkitterukkaen, neenga yenna ketkaama, neenga thuvachhu suthhamaa vachhirukka vendiya thuni maniya laundryla podradhukkum, indha settukku scent/perfume podaradhukkum, irukkara budgeta vuda adhigamaa kekkathhaaney intha plan ? neenga bathroom ponga - 25 varusham kazhichhu idhoda pinn vilaivugala sandhikka vendi varum" - neither Kamal nor MR would have understood the dheerga dharisana prophetic words of MS !
karma vinayam yenna pannradhu ?!
hahaha.. irir..
Mani peter-a nalla capture pannirukeenga..
Venki this is what Muktha Ravi posted
Below is my replyQuote:
Muktha Ravi
Nayagan: Kamal Hasan!
ஐயோ! வரதா பாய்!... அங்க தான விளங்கமே! ! இப்ப நினைத்தாலும் வவுறு கலக்குது! அவர்(வரதா பாய்) செய்த குற்றத்துக்காக மும்பை போலீஸ் தேடி கொண்டிருந்தது. அவர் போலீஸ் கண்ணிலிருந்து ( டிமிக்கி) மறைவில் இருந்த நேரம்!.. நீங்கள் எல்லோரும் சேர்த்து இது 'வரதா பாய் கதை "என்று சொல்ல போக.. ... தடை உத்தரவு!.. நைனா ( muktha srinivasan) வை தலையில் flm பெட்டியும் ..கையில் வேர் கடலை யும் கொடுத்து..மளாபர் ஹில் நடக்க் ஊட்டாங்க!.
.வேலு நாயக்கர் வேணும்னா " நாலு பேருக்கு... " சொல்லலாம்... ஆனா censor board "மூடிக்கிட்டு போடா!" வெளியே துரத்தியதே!.. ...உட்கார இடம் கிடையாது கையை கட்டி கொண்டு விசாரணை கைதி போல் பதில் சொல்லும் நிலை!
கேட்டா Film Banned Under Sub section 2 of section 5b of Cinematograph act 1952 ( 37 of 52) See the pic
அப்ப கமல அண்ணா மணி எல்லோரும் ஜூட்....
சிலர் பெரியப்பா விடம் பணம் திருப்பிக் கேட்க... அன்னிக்கு அவர் போட்ட 420 ஜர்தா....100 . நாட்களில் அவர் படத்துக்கு மாலை போடும் நிலை!... மூப்பனார், மதிஒளி ஷண்முகம் ,உதவி. அப்பாவின் ஆணி தரம்
வாதம்... இன்னிக்கு கமல் அண்ணா Interview கொடுத்து ... சாடுகிற நிலமை
.... ம்ம்ம்ம் நடத்துங்க!
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Kamal didn't do any சாடல் etc. He was just saying the producer was from Old School of thought. That, he says even on his mentors. Tomorrow, his disciples will say on him.
Then kamal clearly told that he came forward to buy the Film and after which GV brought the Film. So what is the issue?!?
And if Censor Board rejected the film, it cannot be a right thing at all. In the end of the Film, the Velu Naayakar character answers தெரியலையேப்பா when asked நீங்க நல்லவரா கெட்டவரா. And also, that was not the 1st time a Don's Life is made as a Movie. It can apply for any Don and need not be connected to Varadha Raja Mudhailar at all. After all, and Above all, Varadha's Life store turned different from Velu Nayagan's. Naayagan is just an imaginary story. Its Ridiculous that Censor Board rejected it that day. And even till today, Kamal is fighting with Censor Board and I don't think he wud have run away without facing the issue. May be some bits are missing in your version.
What you do is baseless accusation on Kamal.
irir123, ippo thaan correct form kku vanthirukkeenga! :lol: Ippadiye maindain pannunga saar :)
skv - idhellaam onnumey kidayaadhu - during school/ college years, kamal's films in particular used to be argued/discussed far more passionately than what goes on here - nakkal, naiyyandi, kaal vaarudhal between kamal fans, sarvasaadharanamaa nadakkum
i read the article, while nicely worded and lucid retelling of intricate aspects, diplomatically some big blunders when detailing the cooperation of producer.
point #1 - when it is clearly known that mukta wanted a decent profit making movie - why did mani and kamal do the experimentation on his money? avar kaettaara experiment panni times mag la varra movie pannungonnu?
point #2 - there is a section where kamal says mani wouldnt have had all those heart attacks so early in life had the producer not tochalled. - that is totally uncalled for and a direct attributable insinuation against the producer. Naalaikke mani adutha attackla para logam poittaa sugaasini thaaliya kaila vechukittu court case podalaam - claiming for liabilities - and she can cite this article as a solid proof that 'killer stress' was piled on her hubby by prodeesar.
idhellaam paathu naekku poakka paetti kudunga kamal saar - raaja vooda pazhagi unga vaayum oLaru vaai aaiduchu..
instead of going into producer angle - he could have simply told what they did in the set .. still would have educated and enlightened us in every minute way..
However personally I love the unfolding drama.
கமலுக்கு பதிலா மணி இருந்து, இந்தப் பேட்டி மூலம் நாயகனை பற்றி அலசியிருந்தால், "நாயகன் பற்றி பேசுகையில் எப்படி ராஜாவை மறந்தார்?" என ரசிகர்கள் கண்டித்து கேட்டிருப்பார்கள். கமல் என்பதால் விட்டுவிட்டார்கள் போல. ஆம். நாயகன் என்ற காவியத்தைப் பற்றி பேசியிருக்கும் பொது, கமல் ராஜாவின் பணிகளையும் பேசியிருக்கனும்!
Aamaam ya, avanga torture pannuvaanga 25 yrs kazhichi kooda sollakoodaathu, appuram enna dashukku pechu suthanthiram?!?!?
I think this article was all the more about shooting style, ergonomics and technicalities for the pre production and production phase - nothing about post production and songs. So you dont have to go hypothesizing the reaction of a 'group' to a hypothetical mani ratnam interview. BTW music sectionla kamal solli kaatra alavukku raaja pin thangiyum illai - andha areala naangallaam hollywood ukkum minnaadi nikkramla. (collar lifting) - some advantages of IR peddling with the abstract stuff like meesik which no producer would understand anything on. BTW it is surprising that Muktha let Raaja score the movie - for he is a well known MSV / non-IR sympathiser. Even for post nayagan movies he went to chandrabose.
No producer will agree for experimenting and none of them know what is what abt making Great Cinemas. Kamal has done more commercial stuff for others and more experiments in his own banner. How much more risk you want him to take?!?
After all, Naayagan made good profits no? Also kamal, most of the times when the movie he did for others didn't do well, he had compensated. Just think now that even bg stars big budget films are continuously flopping. Art Film eduthu flop panna koodaathunnaa commercial aa eduthaalum Flop aachunnaa enna solveenga?!? And if producers like Muktha knew what will sell and what will not, why can't they themselves direct and create blockbusters?!
Yes Cinema is a Business, but it is not Business only.
Above all, if ppl are talking dumb like this for a movie like Naayagan which succeeded BOTH commercially and critically(touched the ballpark of what maximum an indian Cinema can achieve) then i have no words
Going by Kamal's writeup, even Mukta is not a worried man about the content. Just that he either has justifications for his act which kamal felt not-so-nice, or is unhappy that this guy let open all the things which happened past 25 yrs ago. Nowhere did he say that he is NOW worried about Naayagan;s content. Don;t make up stories
Appo art film edukka vendiyadhu dhaane?
ultimately producer invests the money and therefore has more stakes in the movie than star/technicians etc.. BTW still we have films produced by single guy risking his/her money on some abstract ideas - idhula Mukta is known for a long time in the industry to be a guy who did mostly low budget comedies/family dramas - if mani and kamal were so hell bent on experimenting/hollywooding varadha's biopic - they could have done that early on and saved the unsavory exchanges and name calling which seems to be the reason for expiry of producer's brother and 4 heart attacks of chain smoking mani rathinam.
Jaiganes, Ularal to tha core ya :rotfl:
THe producer's brother didn't die becos of any high budget demanded or consumed by kamal. Appadiye kettaalum ivanga kodukka ready yaa illai. Though kamal and mani constantly asked for sight extra perks in budget, producer made sure throughout tha film that the extra perk was constantly rejected! He sent back the hollywood guy. But these guys spoke with him on the 3 days and they themselved did the stuff based on his advice. the producer stopped shoot by not granting extra Film roll for an epic scene to be shot. the actor himself used his own Film rolls. The producer dsagreed to destroy a car and they agreed that.
Above all the producer's bro dies on 100th dey where they where about to do Jubilee celebrations which means the movie was a super hit!
And about kamal investing in the film, he just came back from the loss of Raja paarvai and he sold his apartment to settle the money! And Mani never wud have got the money to produce.
Ithu thaan story nnu sonnappuram the producer cud have disagreed for the film. why on the 1st place he agreed to produce but kept on irritating the crew?
And in the end when the producer complained to kamal, he came fwd to buy the film and then GV Films brought it. What more u expect?
Dasavatharam in Kalaignar TV ... evvalavu thadava paathaalum pullarikkuthu ..
ragalai - neer uruLradhai niruthiputtu
idhai padichuttu sollum - is it not damaging to someone who simply wanted a movie to be made (not a osgar movie).. therinjE paritshaartha riskai aduthavan kaasil (when he did not give you 2 suit cases and say ennavenumna pannungo dawood bhaai kuduthaaru) pannittu manja pai producernaala dhaan manjuLa maasamaaittaa nnu solradhu 'direct insinuation' by uvar hero illaya? adhukku pongaama muktha family edhukku ponguvaanga?Quote:
Originally Posted by ulloor naayagan kamalagaasan
I agree that KH could have avoided some negative statements regarding the producer because this is a happy nostalgic tribute to a great collaborative effort.
But, jaiganes, I do not think Mani and KH set out to make an Oscar quality film. I don't ever think KH would start a film thinking that it is Oscar (or Art Film) material, given all the commercial interests that get attached to his movies. They just ended up with a great product with all aspects blending in nicely, including the camera work, art work and of course, music. Backed up by a good story (influenced by God Father and yesteryear Indian Don) and screenplay, phenomenal acting and good direction, the film is a gem, still talked about today. Which begs the question: Why dwell on the negative aspects and personalized attacks on the producer?
That is one of my points - but to be fair to the producer - if he doesnt approve of all this extra things in name of good cinema why not find another producer early on?
All said and done - anyone going through the credits of the movie would see Muktha films listed only in 'thanks section' - so not only the producer doesnt get any credit for a times 100 movie (not that he needs to given his unwillingness) - he also gets thoroughly bashed after 25 years - it is quite inelegant writing by Mr.Hassan.
Come on Sakala, enna pEchchu sudhandhiram??
Kamal was quite naughty - indeed nasty - in taking swipes at Muktha. (that heart attack samAchAram). Should be ready to face the consequences.
That Jim Allen - Hawala issue was also an interesting perspective.
kalainnu vandhuttA....
kolai kooda paNNalaamA
What I find funny is, summAnAchchukkum Brangan kitta sollappOga, avar ezhudhappOga, ippadi oru esagupisagu aayiduchE! :lol:
jai, why inelegant ya? It was a thoroughly enjoyable read. I even laughed out loud at the heart-attack line. But adhukkAga Hassar sonnadhu sari aayidumA.
namakku pudikkudhungradhukkAga oru vishayam thappillainnu arththam illaiyE.
Haasar konjam thelivaa pesinaaley, indha madhiri karuthhu vishayathhula, ppl will have issues (including me - ex walmart matter) - P_R sonna madhiri, avaru suthhi valachhu kavidhaiyyaavery pesittu pogattum - at least makkals will be tearing their own respective hair(s) instead of flinging at each other like here!
Just to remind,Dhanu has taken quite a few swipes at Haasan over Aalavandhan and has got nothing in return.
Am just putting facts here,my opinion on his rants at Mukhta is reserved.
Looks like Dhanu now looking for a compromise with Kamal...
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...type=1&theater
NDTV INTERVIEW
http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/ndt...ebut/252100?hp
naama en athai Muktha va blame pannatha paarkanum....... intha maathiri Mani work pannina producers lam direct and indirect pressures niraya apply panninathala mani out of the way poi niraya vishayangal involve aanathala, stress out aagi athunala avarukku heart problems vanthathu nu mean pannirukkalamae (enakku therinju avar solla vanthathu athu thaan)...... nayagan is not the only movie / not mani's last movie
Producer restrictions illaama irunthirunthaa, Manikku Heart attack late aa vanthirukkum nu thaan sonnaaru, ithanaala thaan Heart attack vanthuchinnu sollalai
http://www.thehindu.com/arts/cinema/...cle4008896.ece
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Had the producer been more cooperative and had he had more vision, Mani would have ensured that the film came out better. He would have also been a healthier man. His heart attack might have happened at a later stage. Mani was worn out by all the extracurricular activities, which are not part of filmmaking.
Sakala, inggathAn inglibis idikkuthu. If he had said, "had producers" instead of "the producer" and then "had he more vision" instead of "they", it would have avoided all this problem. Of course, when you mention "they" the entire producers in entire Mani's oeuvre (how you pronounce this shit) would sue Mani then. Poor old man, yErkanave Film-Related-Heart-Attacks verA.