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the two links for ROS at the homepage are not linked to this page. Also, i have to use the search box to find this thread? why is this thread and the Gems across various Genres thread not sticky and keep vanishing?
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the two links for ROS at the homepage are not linked to this page. Also, i have to use the search box to find this thread? why is this thread and the Gems across various Genres thread not sticky and keep vanishing?
why no reply from the admins?
I was searching for this thread too (am searching)Quote:
Originally Posted by vel
//dign
shakthi, lets settle for searching and finding out this thread ! what else to do :)
:| I understand. I actually I wanted to know about the 'genre and raagas' of few of my favourite songs. Can I post here and request u to help me find them?
shakthi, all your raga queries can be posted here.
eh this is pretty embarassing cause I THINK Ive asked about this earlier and few ppl helped me out with raagas. I did not store it and I forgot all about it now :oops: Also as much as I am in need of raaga, I wanna know the genre of the following songs.
1. சித்திரமே உன் விழிகள் கொத்து மலர்க் கணைகள்
http://www.dhool.com/cgi-bin/stream..../sithiramae.rm
2. நினைத்தால் உனைத் தான் நினைப்பேன்
நெஞ்சில் தமிழாய் இனிப்பேன்
http://www.thenisai.com/tamil/mp3-so...l-mp3-song.htm
3. எங்கெங்கோ செல்லும் என் எண்ணங்கள்
இங்கே நான் கண்டேன் பொன் வண்ணங்கள்
4. சந்தன புன்னகை சிந்திய கன்னிகை மந்திர மல்லிகை தானோ
5. கண் மலர்களின் அழைப்பிதழ் பொன் இதழ்களின் சிறப்பிதழ்
http://music.cooltoad.com/music/song.php?id=214474
6. ஆனந்த தாகம் என் கூந்தல் பூக்கள் கேட்குமே
and the famous
7. சங்கத்திலே பாடாத கவிதை அங்கத்திலே யார் தந்தது
Also If possible I need list of songs based on "kadhana-kudhookalam / கதனகுதூகலம்"
I am trying to analyse if I am particularly fond of any common genre :oops:
நினைத்தால் உனைத்தான் ...யேசுதாஸ், வாணி டூயட்
is the same melody as
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdQir...eature=related
கனவு ஒன்று தோன்றுதே..... ஜானு in ராகா ரேவதி , remember
விழிகள் மேடையாம்....T.R ...கிளிஞ்சல்கள்.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUpfGLdupBE
வினதா.
Thanks vinatha. I really like kanavu ondru thondruthE not to leave behind vizhigaL medaiyaam. I suppose all these may belong to same raaga with variations. thankyou. thankyou. :ty: Revathi is said to please lord shiva. bhakthi bhava is more.
"Revati's notes when shifted using Graha bedham, yields 2 other pentatonic rāgams, namely, Shivaranjani and Sunadavinodini"
(thanks to wikipedia)
No wonder I like it...there it is my fav...SHIVARANJANI! :bow:
sorry vel seriously got carried away. please provide ur information.
//dign
Dear Shakti Prabha
Thanks for சித்திரமே உன் விழிகள் கொத்து மலர்க் கணைகள். Memories of VIVIDA BHARATI /MADRAS "A". Seems to be Shankar Ganesh Music. Resembles some old song but enchanting.
Thanks again
ramesh
Hey Shakthi, :)
மஹா தேவ சிவ சம்போ.......ராகம் ரேவதி ..rhythmic திருமதி.அருணா சாயிராம் vibrates energy with her passion.
Vinatha.
:) would check it out baroque thanks :) enakku "போ சம்போ சிவ சம்போ ஸ்வயம்போ" - maharajapuram song pidkkum. And who can forget "naanati brathuku" :bow:
shakthi,
kan malargalin sounds keeravani, sangathil paadadha kavidhai is kaapi.
ramesh :) been my favourite from the time hubber madhu posted the song in "emtional song threawd" nice to know the shared taste. Yes shankar ganesh :)
vel,
thanks a lot. Waiting for u to list out others as well, and their genre :oops: (take ur time though hehe)
"கீரவாணி...மனதிலே நினைவிலே பாட வா நீ... " :musicsmile: :bow: thankyou.
Shakthi,
Sivaranjani pidikuma....
apo indha paata kelu...
Dharmavathi yum Sivaranjani yum
kalandhu kalandhu azhaga varum....
Kalaidascope pakka madhiri ..........
2 raagamum maari maari - Chinna Jerk kuda ilama..
pl enjoy.....
Oru aalam poovu - IR and KSC
http://www.thiraipaadal.com/album.ph...R00523&lang=en
Usha,
Shivaranjanikaaga ennnnaa venaalum panven. (konjam exaggeration nnu vechukonga hehe) I am CRAZY abotu that raaga. thankyou sooooooo muich for hosting a song.
romba different aa irunthathu experience :D dharmavathi hmm... like u said...smooth flow, raagamalikai nnu solrathukku perisa therinjirukkanam, normal novice like me cant find out. :bow: athaan IR :bow: awesome. thankyou... I found the song jumping with joy like a happy rabbit... u know bouncing wiht joy and mischief.
thankyou.
Shakthi,
thanks for the response.
Raagam and IR - Periya Research seiyanam..
Particularly, about the mood and the feelings..
Vel irukarae... Avarai thread pottu ezhudha sollanam......
Unaku pidicha Sivaranjani - idhu Sogam mood ku than neraiya irukum.
Sandhoshamana Sivaranjani with different mood from IR
1. Pon maanae kobam yeno - Oru kadhiyin Diary
indha mood ai gavani........
2.Naan pooveduthu vaikanam pinnalae - Naanum oru Thozhilali
indha mood ai gavani
3. Raja Raja than - Oru ooril oru Rajakumari
indha feelings ai gavani
4. Neethanae naal thorum - Paatu vaathiyar
ellam IR's Sivaranjani than..
Mood and feelings ai gavani.
IR kandu pidichu irukar. Tats all
Link for the songs
Pon maanae
1.http://www.thiraipaadal.com/album.ph...R00447&lang=en
2.Naan pooveduthu
http://www.thiraipaadal.com/album.ph...R00411&lang=en
3.Raja Raja than
http://www.thiraipaadal.com/album.ph...R00451&lang=en
4.Neethanae naal thorum
http://www.thiraipaadal.com/album.ph...R00468&lang=en
indha paatai ellam kelu..
Ellam orae Sivaranjaniya iruka .....
Pl share ur thoughts Shakthi......
Vel,
yamma yamma - thaalatu kaekkuthama
http://www.thiraipaadal.com/album.ph...R00620&lang=en
madhyamavathiya?
yamma yamma song kaetadhum
manasil indha paatu nyabagam vandhadhu
Kaathu oodha kaathu - En purushandhan enaku matum dhan
http://www.thiraipaadal.com/album.ph...R00138&lang=en
Nice no. idhu enna ragam?
shakthi, i dont know anything on genres :)
usha, first one is madhyamavathi....second is a mix of madhyamavathi and sree ragam...very good find, i had not listened to this second song so far.
vel no probs :) ungalukke therilainna not sure where to go :oops: thankyou for being there and trying.
Does "azhagaana sandhangaL" from adhu andhak kaalam belong to raaga "malayamarutham" ? :oops: edho website la padichen. Just wanna confirm.
usha,
all u guys are so knowledgeable, enakku thayakkam irukku to share my ignorance here :oops: irunthalaum en thoughts share panren. Today uve given me feast. I shall enjoy the feast and let u know shortly.
ennennavO solreenga ? enakku puriyavE illa. sree raagathula madhyamavathi swarangaL ellaam varum illaiya ? appadinnaa some special swara prasthAram irunthAdhAn adhu madhyamAvathi enRu sollalAm.. isnt it ?
(kOva padaamE sollungO. I am a clean slate in this regard :P)
ragas like reethigowlai, anandabhairavi, shree, dwijavanthi etc have some distinct characterics....vakra prayogams (ie they dont travel a linear arohanam or avraohanam) ....so it is actually the other way round...some specific swara prastharam / flavour / typical phrases irundhaadhaan adhu shree raagam...illaena it is just madhyamavathi with some extra swaras :)Quote:
Originally Posted by madhu
i know after reading this, you may again have to repeat "ennamo sollreenga" :lol:
Shree Ragam | S R2 M1 P N2 S | S N2 P D2 N2 P M1 R2 G2 R2 S
madhyamavathi Madhyamavathi | S R2 M1 P N2 S | S N2 P M1 R2 S
appuram innoru vishayam....unga kelviya paartha idhu 'clean slate' kelvi maadhiri theriyalaiyae? :wink:
kavala padaadheenga, naanum kelvi gnaanam dhaan...adha vachi oppaethikittu irukkaen. :2thumbsup:
shakthi - cant find the 'adhu andha kaalam' song....dont worry about any ignorance here....even the so called experts think a song is set in one raga, only later to find it it is infact in another scale, when pointed out by someone else who looks at it from a different perspective. this is atleast true for ilaiyaraaja songs...
the different colors IR's sivaranjani
Sivaranjani | S R2 G2 P D2 S I S D2 P G2 R2 S
a) Pathos
Kathirundhu - Vaideghi Kaathirundhal
Kudagu Malai Kaatril - Karagatakaran (mishra sivaranjani, so the experts say! )
Kuyil Paatu - En Raasavin Manasilae
Oh Priya Priya - Idhayathai Thirudaathe
Penmanasu Azhamunnu - En Raasavin Manasilae
Solai Pushpangalae - Ingaeyum Oru Gangai
Vanuyarndha Solaiyile - Idhaya Kovil
b) Comedy
Raja Raja Dhaan - Oru Oorula Oru Raajakumari
c) Devotion
Unna Vitta - Manaivi Ready
d) Love / affection
Adi Aathaadi - Kadalora Kavidhaigal
Ennana Paada Padutharan - Aandan Adimai
Adhi Kaalai Nera Kanavil - Naan Sonnadhe Sattam (touches M2 and N2)
Manjal Poosum - Sakkarai Thevan
Needhaane Naal thorum - Paatu Vaathiyar
Paattu Cholli Paada Cholli - Azhaghi
Pon Manae - Oru Kaidhiyin Dairy
Punnai Vanathu Kuyile - Muthu Kalai (Vintage stuff from raja)
Unnai Thaanae - Nallavanukku Nallavan (interludes use anya swaras)
Va Va Anbae - Agni Nakshatiram
Valli Valli Ena - Deiva Vaaku (charanam mostly Mohanam's Ga3 !!)
Melle Melle - Apaaratha (Malayalam)
Velli Mani Thottil Katta - Thalaimurai
Puzhayorathil - Atharvam (Malayalam)
Ponnavanippadam - Rasathanthram (Malayalam)
e) Lust
Naan Pooveduthu Vaikkanum - Naanum Oru Thozhilaali
Abbani Tiyyani - Jagadeka Veerudu Athiloka Sundari (Telugu)
Oru Aalam Poovu Athipoova- Senthooram
Yemma Yemma Thalli Nillu – Thodarum
a nice observation from a friend of mine Sripathy Ramesh, regarding the above list
QUOTE
Kuyil Paatu - Female version can be under love/affection and the male version (IR's) can be under pathos.
You can also include the following under corresponding categories:
...
Athorathile aalamaram from Kaasi
UNQUOTE
vel,
Oru alam poovu Athi poovae - punniyavathi..
senthooram ilai........
Shakthi,
enaku - nejama onum theiryadhu.
BUt - IR songs kaetu, ragam pazhagikaren. tats all.
adhanala, nee dhairiyama sollalam. kaetukalam...
Swara nyanam - nejama naan clean slate...
madhu madhiri ilai.
clean slate nu sollitu, swaram pathi pesaradhuku............. :D
hayyo hayyoQuote:
Originally Posted by tvsankar
neenga ellaam swaram pathi pesiyadhulathaan naan kuzhambittEn.
anyway madhyamavathi ragam kachEriyil kadaisiyil paaduvaangannu theriyum. mathapadi enakkum swaram ellaam theriyaadhu. but "sippikkuL muthu" padathulE "thuLLi thuLLi" paattukku munnAlE SPB pAdum aalaap madhyamAvathi enRu SJ solluvaanga :P
BTW.. naanthAn original agmArk ISO certified clean slate :oops:
madhu,
Unga asai padi clean slate nae sollikongo. :D
anal, naan dhan nejamana Clean Slate..........
Madhyamavathi - ku oru ilakanam solreenga.lae...
:D
IR's Madhyamavathi group ku naan romba romba romba romba KIRUKU...
Thuli thulli - Madhyamavathi.....
thanks madhu
wat about
Paradi kuyilae - IR - Nangal
enna ragam idhu?
http://www.thiraipaadal.com/album.ph...R00398&lang=en
Raagas in Gaayam 2
Andaala Lokam - Harikhambhodhi
Masakenakka - Keeravani
Endhukamma Prema Prema - Mohanam
Eluthundru - Vakulabharanam
Rama Rajyam - Vakulabharanam + Ni3
tvshankar, some madhyamavathi flavour sure'a irukku
vel,
Thanks for the madhyamavathi.
Gaayam 2 - oh .... raagam soliyacha...... nice.
vel - ennai usha sankar nae sollalam....
hey all, thanks for shivaranjani mazhai :redjump:
I found in most songs IR has used fast beats to pep the otherwise pathos or urugal flavour which SR has. Specifically raja raja thaan comedy flavour which vel had mentioned.
and oh usha...ponnnn mane :bow: .. ingayum drums use panni he has given the peppy boost. "kaithiyaay nirkiren "vaaaa" , oodal enbathu kaathalin gauravan "poo"vaa and po both has kenjchal and konjchal. Athe tune gets compatible enough for both.
IMHO SR suits all moods, well almost all moods. pathos, affection, pining, love, affection not to mention devotion.
aana lust and SR...well...hmm...not my choice. :| hmm well I always disliked the song "naan pooveduthu" for unknown reasons.
possibly
1. ambika
2. stupid steps and choreography which makes me fume
3. something is NOT complete, may be lust and sr dont gel?
theriyala. I shall listen to other songs depicting the same mood and let u know.
I listened to "naan pooveduthu" with lil more concentration probably for the first time now. Towards anupallavi and sharanam...hmm...good...not bad.. or may be u get used to it :lol2:
and how can I not mention MY FAV sr songs
1. avaL oru menakai... from "nakshatram" :bow:
2. vaa vaa anbe anbe (thanks vel)
3. devi...devi...thenill...kulithen (naan adimai illai)
and lot others
2. tere mere beech mein...
3. jane kahan..gaye...woh din
4. mere naina...sawan bandho
anyway thats a diff section altogether.
Are there any good songs composed in Madhuvanti raagam?
My first article in Tamil. This is about the great K V Mahadevan and his usage of carnatic ragas in films. Please check it out at:
http://solvanam.com/?p=11714