A song from the film "Majaa" starts off like "vaadiyamma" of "Thirumalai". Anybody noticed it? VS's self inspiration.
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A song from the film "Majaa" starts off like "vaadiyamma" of "Thirumalai". Anybody noticed it? VS's self inspiration.
yes that song is IR-8 nattu kattu .
Happened to listen to `ada AL thOtta bhoopathy nAnadA, andha amarakkOtta bhoopathiyum nAnadA' from some vijay movie...(the same movie that has the song `sakkarai nilavE, sakkarai nilavE')...it sounded familiar to some old song (or songs)...and initially I brushed aside thinking that it's true of many recent dappAnguthu songs anyways...
After comparing some lines of the saraNam, though, I think it's a `deliberate' inspiration of the iLamaikkOlam song `vachcha pArva theerAdhadi'...(for e.g. the line that goes like `kannippoovOda nalla vAsam...' in the KJY song)...
I must, however, admit that the singer for this song had done a wonderful job...after SPB (& his clone Mano) and MV, looks like a singer who can do 100% justice to a masculine dappAnguththu...(who is he BTW?)...
OTOH, the MD has sodhappified in the percussion section...pedestrian and without punch...should listen to songs like `adiyE, manam nillunnA nikkAdhadee' to learn how to build a tempo...
Scale, I just read your PM, sorry for the late response. Aayiraththil oruvan's prelude(and just the prelude) can be termed a fleeting inspiration at best, IMO. I wouldnt rule out a coincidence either. If the original song came out at around the same time maybe theres a chance the same groove was used by both of them. But the rest of the song bears no resemblance whatsoever. Definitely not a copy or a major inspiration.
A better example for inspiration would be prelude of "hello Mr.edhirkatchi" from Memphis stomp. I havent come across a single instance of direct tune lifting by Rahman.
Thank you very much vijayr. Thats why I like him the most :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by vijayr
HI guyz....listen to this piece & tell me where u have heard this b4!! not a ditto...but im sure u can guess the bit that sounds simular to this!!
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8P7NCSO2
note : this is the original,composed by ARR at the year 1993..a Pudhiya Mugam BGM
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Aayiraththil oruvan's prelude(and just the prelude) can be termed a fleeting inspiration at best, IMO.
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I was talking ONLY about the prelude...and how can you say its"inspired"...Both are identical! I had also mentioned that the tune seemed original.
PS: just curious - what's ur definition of "inspiration"...Pls don't quote m-w or dictionary.com :-)
Shankar, inspiration/copy depends on the extent of similiarity and to a certain extent depends on the judgement of the person reviewing it. If just a few bars are similiar it could be even coincidence. In this case I am not even so sure it can be called inspiration, leave alone copy. would you say IR "copied" chittukuruvi vetkapadudhu from Dvorak's symphony? The opening words of the song is quite close to that short piece from Dvorak. But, IMO it would be insane for me to suggest that it was copied. Whereas "endha poovilum vaasam undu" or "akkarai seemai" quailify easily as lifts as almost the entire pallavi bears resemblance note-by-note, not just a phrase or two. But even there many people prefer to use the word "inspiration" as the charanams are IR's own. Same is the case with many of Deva's lifts as well, but in his case people prefer to use the word "copied" instead of inspiration all the time :-). Consider the whole song or pallavi, consider the part that resembles the original and then conclude for yourself whether it is copy or inspiration. In the Iruvar song the prelude itself starts off totally different, after afew seconds the percussion bit in question appears although Rahman plays a different, original lead tune over it. Considering the portion of the songs that are original, I would say its an inspiration at best or even a coincidence where the same loop has been used by 2 artists.
Vijayr,
If you say chittukuruvi is inspired, then this too qualifies in that category...To me, one or two bars being the same (which has a very high probablity) its ok...If the whole phrase is the same, I would call it a copy :-) However, from the MDs viewpoint, it may still be an inspiration bcos, he might've loved that phrase and must've used it. We shud also understand that ppl like Raja/arr/msv don't have to copy to create a great song....In that sense I agree with your definition of inspiration.
Anyone heard Aanpavam theme music?. If so, please check with that tune and Alaipayuthey - Pachai Niramey song, especially the starting music.