i heard the Flag of our Fathers was not as good as Iwo Jima.....Quote:
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i heard the Flag of our Fathers was not as good as Iwo Jima.....Quote:
Originally Posted by ajithfederer
No, actually :oops: I am a fan of the actor first, before the director, and the subject matter did not interest me all that much. I might visit them one of these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by ajithfederer
Last Clint movie i watched
Enforcer.
Nothing to rave about the movie. It was better than Magnum Force though. After watching Dirty Harry, i liked it so much that i downloaded Magnum Force and Enforcer. But, both the films were a let down except for Clint. Sudden Impact wouldnt be any better, i guess. Still, i am planning to download it.
P.S I couldnt avoid imagining Rajinikanth in Clint's character in the Dirty Harry movie series. Anybody else here thought so??
The Enforcer is the best sequel of them all. Sudden Impact would require you to forward scenes involving the cadaverous Sondra Locke. Yet, another Eastwood flick where she gets raped :lol: This is the film from where the then US President Ronald Reagan hijacked a line...a very immortal line.Quote:
Originally Posted by salaam_chennai
Ithai patti nanbar A2A virivaaga peesuvar :DQuote:
Originally Posted by salaam_chennai
Thanks groucho for the alert on Sudden Imapct. will watch and post here how the movie was.
By the way just now noticed the poll. If the director option is split as Director('Unforgiven' and later) and Director(Before 'Unforgiven'), I would have voted for Director('Unforgiven' and later).
I voted for Clint the actor.
Yarabba athu third option-ukku vote pottathu :evil: . (VV style) Raascal!
Athu 8-)Quote:
Originally Posted by salaam_chennai
In case of being a director, yeah, you are right to a point. My take on his films as director before Unforgiven:
The Rookie (1990): To quote NOV, "stupid movie", but not without some nice Eastwoodian lines.
White Hunter Black Heart (1990): Brilliant, still in my top ten.
Bird (1988): Awesome tribute to one of the greatest jazz musician.
Heartbreak Ridge (1986): Highly, highly underrated. Watching it again recently, my wife opened up and confessed that she is now an Eastwood fan.
"Amazing Stories" (1 episode, 1985)
- Vanessa in the Garden (1985) TV episode - with Sondra Locke. Boy am I happy I have never seen it.
Pale Rider (1985): Sort of remake of the better High Plains Drifter. Had its moment, though.
Sudden Impact (1983): Sondra Locke Rape Movie.
Honkytonk Man (1982): Forgettable. Honestly, Clint was not convincing as: 1) Honky Tonk Singer
2) Dude with TB. Nah, he looks like he's faking it.
Firefox (1982): Reason why he never made effects ladden movie until, like twenty years later. Badly made!
Bronco Billy (1980): Sweet...his take on Capra's works.
The Gauntlet (1977): Sondra Locke Rape Movie the Prequel.
The Outlaw Josey Wales (1976): Superb. One of his best, top five material definitely.
The Eiger Sanction (1975): I find this boring, except the part where the native girl bares her assets.
Breezy (1973): Haven't seen it yet.
High Plains Drifter (1973): Top Five Material, for sure. Awesome pix.
Play Misty for Me (1971): Unofficially remade as Fatal Attraction later. Known for Talaivar in his Y-brief :oops:
Director (before 'Unforgiven') is great in his own right. 8-)Quote:
Originally Posted by salaam_chennai
When you are right, you are right Thilak.
By the way, Talaivar on the GQ mag cover as "Badass of the Year" :twisted:
http://www.cherrybombed.com/wp-conte...odBadassGQ.jpg
great. I need to bookmark this page. It will be very useful for me.
Out of the movies you listed i like Play Misty for me(Eastwood'aye stalk pannudhunna andha heeroeni evlo peria thillalangadiya iruundhirukanum), and High Plains Drifter.
I downloaded White Hunter Black Heart and Duck Soup after seeing ur top 10 holly list thread. I didnt like Duck Soup(ok.. cuss me however you want). So, i kept WHBH on hold. have to watch it sometime.
SC, thanks for taking my top ten list seriously :shock: . No harm in not liking Duck Soup, it depends on one's taste (pun either is or not intended, up to you).You likey Gran Torino, then you likey WHBH. But its nice if you have watched The African Queen (1951, Bogart got best actor Oscar for this, err...knocking off Brando in Streetcar :shock: ). Then, you know what the heck the whole movie is about.Quote:
Originally Posted by salaam_chennai
Pretty much concur with your assessment above, Groucho. Although I haven't seen some of the lesser known titles and underrated ones, like "Heartbreak Ridge". I have seen about five from Early Eastwood, and I rate highly all five:
Play misty for me
High Plains Drifter
The Outlaw Josey Wales
Bird
White Hunter Black Heart
The last two are amazingly uncompromising and unique in his oeuvre. No wonder Rebel Rosenbaum listed it in his 1001 essential movies to watch from 20th Century.
White Hunter Black Heart. :thumbsup:
Amazing movie. Eastwood's comic timing is amazing in this movie. The whole sequence in the party right from the discussion with the anti-jew lady and the fight with the hotel manager was a laugh riot. Sarcasm comes naturally to this guy. Must-watch movie for Eastwood fans.
Ennaku vazhi vittu mic koduthu annan grouch a avaragaluku nandri....Quote:
Originally Posted by groucho070
How can one forget thalivar while watching Clint movies? infact, they are twin brothers but rajini born 20 years after clinteastwood... Hmm.....may be probably father-son relationship.... :lol: :lol:
Groucho,Quote:
Originally Posted by groucho070
where is my movies..... :evil: :evil: :evil:
Dollar triology, Dirty harry and beguile.....
clint and leone or clint and don siegel combination is teriffic.....
Chill, birather. I was writing about the films Eastwood directed himself before Unforgiven. Not the entire list. Athai patti pesuna whole year pattaathu :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Avadi to America
Gran Torino - Clintty :clap:.
Clintty-yaa, ippadiyellam isthtatukku pet name kodukkurathaa :lol: Revisited Heartbreak Ridge recently...and the Highway character could have easily been younger version of Kowalski. Easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by ajithfederer
A very good American film. Captures the essence of rough neighborhoods in Midwest America and families which don't talk to each other. Mr. Kowalski is the conservatuve old American guy who wouldn't take s!@@t from anybody and can rattle anybody's ass. This guy is 78!!. Will surely watch Invictus.
Ethu ethukkoo Aascar, Golden Gulob-ellam kodukkurangga. Intha performance-ukku koduttirukkalaam. Though for HC fans like me, the performance is not new. Anyway, he did get Best Actor award from few critics associations. :D
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Originally Posted by groucho070
what a manly photo........ 8-)
this is thala clint's week...just watched heart break ridge.... i am going to watch the(good, bad, ugly) nth time and hang them high.......
Clint acknowledges this in Charlie Rose. After 21:00.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)
From Woody's thread:
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Originally Posted by groucho070
Thank you, Groucho. That's an interesting dissection of WHBH themes. It's a layered film that works on so many levels. I had some semblance of thoughts on such lines without the drive and power to articulate. Many thanks for this!Quote:
Originally Posted by groucho070
The film is in deed a statement of Clint's paradigm shift. There was a point in mid-80s when Clint had to put up with detractors and critics in general, unable to relent or accept the transformation from iconic characters to a flexible actor and intelligent filmmaker. The only country that supported and recognized him around that point was France. But even there, mainstream press had a stereotyped fixation when it came to him. He managed to vanquish 'em all in the end. 8-)Quote:
White Hunter can thereby criticise Wilson’s individualism and violence, and consequently revise Eastwood’s persona, while at the same time celebrating that independence and spontaneity, his anti-bureaucratic stance, which he is seen to embrace at the end
by becoming a director. This final move echoes Eastwood’s alleged
independence as a filmmaker, now even cynically enhanced by the film’s aura of revisionism.
And I do see a lot of Warner brothers (the long standing employers/producers of Clint's films) in Paul Landers characters. :)
Btw, reg. stereotyped fixation in French mainstream press (considering they are better informed than American press. Even Charlie Rose was annoyingly ignorant in one of his interviews with Clint). Here's one example where I wanted to punch the arrogant lady interviewer. Just watch Clint managing to keep it short and to-the-point. Had this film happened, It would have been excellent, no doubts. Godard is the greatest film stylist and trickster to my mind. the one who genuinely kept out of overtly "dramatic" acting. Clint would be a dream choice. I guess months after this interview, that lady would have got some food for thought with Godard dedicating his film "Detective" to Clint (and John Cassavetes).
//Dig @ K_G, oruthar ennanna "no smoking",innoruthar "களவும் கற்று மற" inga oruthar Whiskey piriyar :lol2:
BTW, Jack tells "the glass of beer" right? Dig//
Yes yes. This one caters to my taste. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Appu s
But that is bourbon ain't it? More to my taste. Or maybe you are making "Jack" connection :wink:
Jack Torrance orders bourbon. but the original quote has 'beer' in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by groucho070
My preference is in the avatar and signature. :D
groucho,
intha thread ethir parthatha vida activavey irrukku....
Talaivar-Oda magimai, A2A. His work reaches low-brow fans like me to to right up there with the pundits. Still haven't read the WHBH dissection, enna mathiri semi-literates-ukku konjam time veenum. :P
For fans of both Eastwood (the actor) and James Bond
http://www.indielondon.co.uk/DVD-Rev...wood-interview
Q: Were you at one time asked if you would play James Bond?
Clint Eastwood: I was, yes at one time. This was after Sean [Connery quit]. I had the same attorney as the Broccoli family.
Q: Any regrets about not having been 007?
Clint Eastwood: I thought that James Bond should be British. I’m of British descent but by the same token I thought that it [Bond] should be more of the culture there and also, it was not my thing, it was somebody’s else’s thing.
Ithu eppadi irukku :D
Nalla vela. Considering the shit-house production studios and shit-house directors then, the films wouldn't work on me. I'm not a fan of Bond as it existed then. ;-)
The moment I took Bond mythology in earnest was sometime after I read QT had revealed interest in adapting 'Casino Royale' with Pierce Brosnan. And when I got hold of the book (the one & only Ian fleming book I have read). I could understand why he would want to. Then I was running over select few actors in my mind, who would suit better than Brosnan. The young Clint Eastwood would have nailed it. He created his own mythological characters in Sergio Leone & Siegel films. And QT, IMHO, is on his way to near Sergio's level (well above Siegel). In my imaginary scenario, Clint should be cast as Bond in QT's version and not Brosnan. If it had happened, he would have furnished a new legacy for Bond series, which would easily out scale the impact of Nolan brothers & batman franchise. :P
Well said about the 70s Bond. I like Moore for his humour, and Bond he is definitely not. The lest I talk about the films the better :evil:
News on QT's interest have been hovering around the Bond fandom for sometimes now, and frankly he would have given it a fresh breath of air, instead of the so-called reboot, which is actually same old 1995-2002 trash with better script and waaaaay better lead actor.
The Bond in Fleming's book is flesh and blood, dark brooding, but at the same time patriotic, warm and is a sucker for good frienship. Not sure how a young Eastwood, if at all he can pull of the Queen's English, would inject a bit more humanity into the character. Stoic presence and grunted lines worked well in Leone's landscape and later Siegel and his own films. Okay, there were some great performances along the way, but I don't want other hubbers to snicker and snort out their chaiya.
Closest he came to playing such character happened to be one of the least-liked film - The Eiger Sanction. It was supposed to be the Deighton/ Le-Carre type spy flick with mountain climbing background. Didn't work for me. He just looked bored, and when doing the climbing, looked tired (coz he did most of the actual climbing anyway).
Nein...he would not be the top ten actor in my list, if I was the filmaker and I was forced to hire an American (then). Now, Steve McQueen would have been a different story altogether :P
Edit. My 2nd fav Bond, Timothy Dalton, is a huge Eastwood fan and said that once he did a TV special equivalent of a fan letter to da Man...never got around to see it.
I think so too. But the quality of Casino royale is the Bond who ruffles few feathers on this mission, so to speak. The dialogues in QT mode wouldn't just be laconic in any case. But a bit more brooding with a ring to it. There would be less of acting, & humanity and that sort of thing. So the iconography of Bond is built by Casino royale. And when it was to be made after all the trash in 70's would be a rebirth of the genre/franhise. How apt it would be. But it wouldn't be achieved through the motives on lines of patriotism and fondness in QT's hands. The darker parts should have interested QT immensely. He was most definitely seeing it as assasin's creed and the narrative as a procession for Bond, of a learning curve.Quote:
The Bond in Fleming's book is flesh and blood, dark brooding, but at the same time patriotic, warm and is a sucker for good frienship.
And one other thing, the romantic angle would almost certainly fit Clint Eastwood in QT mode had imagined. "The bitch is dead" would bring the house down. :notworthy:
Definitely. QT would have picked them up and try to run his way to the bank, except it would have spelled death to the franchise. The first film, Dr. No, was very far removed from the books, he was a glorified policemen, as the villain himself put, and only in From Russia With Love did we see Fleming's Bond, and a smattering of the old boy in On Her Majesties Secret Service, and we had to wait for, like 18 years before Fleming's Bond resurfaced in The Living Daylight in an otherwise the franchise holders-sanctioned film (Dalton took advantage of the desperate producers to pick the character up back from the book, though hints of previous nonsense were abound here and there).Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-glove
Arrr...remba digress pannitten.
Anyway, coming back to Eastwood. The best book would be You Only Live Twice. It starts dark, with Bond recently losing his wife, then a trip to Japan, where he lightens up, and then the confrontation with Blofeld who killed his wife earlier. The last few chapters of the book are perhaps the darkest of the entire series. QT would have loved the bleakness and the violence in it.
Oh, then I would have to get my hands on it.
I am beginning to appreciate what Qt is doing. Fully appreciate things I might not have the cognition to understand but read from some place else. Like this. Thanks to bala.
Invictus review.
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/...IEWS/912099994
Eastwood in Golden Globe again 8-)
http://www.goldenglobes.org/news/id/159 (link given by tamizharasan)