yeah....i understood ur point with ur reply to cr. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by thilak4life
except that suhasini part...trying to decipher :roll:
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yeah....i understood ur point with ur reply to cr. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by thilak4life
except that suhasini part...trying to decipher :roll:
Well, that was my reaction.Quote:
"except that suhasini part...trying to decipher "
Mani's kids (in the films) are not as irritating as Suhasini, but enough to call them younger not-so-bad versions of her. :lol:
yeah, first thappa purinjukitten (see prev post edited).Quote:
Originally Posted by thilak4life
:exactly: The world would be a better place without KB's women and Maniyaan's kids :razz:Quote:
Originally Posted by thilak4life
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by thilak4life
Egjactly. KB's women are the worst-u. :twisted:Quote:
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Edhuku
Vendam
Panidu
No maten
Sari
Ok Bye
Wow Mani movie dialogues rocks!!!!
Mani Ratnam is the master of his own cliches.Quote:
Originally Posted by NOV
this movie too has such cliches.. but still inspite of that, it is a superb movie..
Maniratnam movie-a rasikanum,alasi arayakudathu! :D :cool2:
rasikka mudiyalayea !! athu yeannuthaan alasi aarayurom..Quote:
Originally Posted by A.ANAND
EKSI, do u alasify why u dont like sam anderson movies or JKR movies?? u just leave it and go rite, andha madhiri maniratnam padathhayum vittuttu pongaQuote:
Originally Posted by Anban
An overwheming :yes:
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Originally Posted by thilak4life
:lol: :yes:
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Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
:exactly:Quote:
Originally Posted by ajithfederer
And I didn't like TKAMB either. Anjali seemed like a good movie, but when I watched it as a kid - I believed rich kids living in big apartments talking english in some Convent will behave like that. They had actually grown up with MR. Sidharth of Ayutha ezuthu looked like Anjali's Tarun (10 varudam kazhithu..)
ungglala rasikka mudiyala inna,athukku manirtanam enna pannuvar??oru velai unnga rasanaikku perararasu,dharani,hari movie-than pidikkumo ennavo! :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by Anban
In what way Mr. Bruce Lee& overwhelming Mr. Barrack Obama? :D
Both KB & MR have one thing in common. They have created some intelligent characters in W/K a revelation to their era which TF have never experienced. KB is a filmi theorist & Mani brings modern/technical brilliance on screen thru his characters. That’s their style of film making and it worked <flawlessly, don’t bang>. KB is a godfather of TF.. Some of them might rebuke these characters as adhigaprasangithanam, blah blah...but certainly not. May be the Veterans Directors have to take a backseat and watch (Story/Dialogue/Director) KH's Dasas women Krishnaveni paati & Aandal or AS Kiran or DM Gauthami. No... No..... they are not adhighaprasangighal certainly made the world a better place for few atleast. You people have never learnt to be selfish and sketch characters of your presence and importance. For Mani, on how to exploit kids appropriately make a sequel on KP, Father & Mother smooching live in front of their childrens. Why MTV, FTV. Great concept for Mani Sir! Kalaachara seerkedu. I can quote many.... <Move to sticky topics>
Thilak, Anjali inspired from TKAMB? Are you sure?
Maniratnam movies are more than rasikkum thanmai kandippa alasi arayavendiya vagaiyil niraya padangal thanthirukkirar. Even I can do that for movies like Indhra, Satya etc....
Two great interview/Article of KB & MR
http://passionforcinema.com/k-balach...in-discussion/
http://desitrain.com/2006/06/27/the-...rtik-krishnan/
well said :2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Scale
hubbers widely used language'la sollanum'naa, KB padam ( includes story, charactor, etc I mean ALL ) pudikkalainaa ?? avanukku rasanai illainu aththam :)
just bcos 2 kamal fans said it, we neednt drag kamal's movies and his creations into this..........its not just kamal fans who hate mani's kids(in movies).......Quote:
Originally Posted by Scale
to be fair, i like the anamoly or what do u say Inappropriateness in Mani's movies......like old ladies dancing for a first night song, kids talking abt adult things, terrorist having mercy, terrorist cracking jokes with radio journalists, riots ending up peacefully, business tyccon escapes economic offences with a 4.30 mins arguement etc etc........i would certainly say, these are the things that make the mani's movie watching more interesting like u expect a vanilla ice-cream but get a chocolate ice cream at that place........nevertheless chocolate is inappropriate for that place :)[/tscii]
Scale,
I was appreciating it, not meant to make this TKAM "inspiration" a negative. In any case, I seem to have liked "Anjali" more than most here. No offense. :)
Maddy,
Its very simple and you know this tactics of counter arguing what we have learnt from mayyam's musical experience. :lol: I developed this habit of questioning, quarrel and to get convinced finally <be it right or wrong>. Sincerely, NOM to any! I don’t know how I edited the post "On a director's perspective, In 75 yrs of TF no women characters are as good and strong as KB's women. One after the other..They are stalwarts not just weeping guise" If this was included Kamal fans or non KH fans, comparison on KH 's women would have become immaterial.
Reg Mani's works what you got chocolate icecream instead of vanilla icecream is his devil MBA's "doctrine". He has been terribly confused in differenciating art and commercial movies. He has past his prime. Things are getting worst now more with his association to Bachan's family. "Ravana" next :evil: Neverthless he has given some fresh ilaneers in movies like anjali, iruvar, & KM. And you know the end result. Someday the burnt fingers needs to be healed! He also need "Alaipayuthe", Guru :) (I liked Dasa too- Spectacular show)
Thilak, Thanks for the clarification. I was literally traumatized! Anjali is my all time fav of Mani & IR Combo. I wish Mani makes a sequel with ARR. That would be Priceless!
Noooo.....not sure what you are traumatised for. But I was traumatised by Anjali. I have not thought about genocide till then, or ever, till I saw that movie....don't ask me who my intended victims were.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scale
I may have been softened by age...but a sequel will bring that murderer out of me again.
By the way, I like your avatar. :)
:lol: :rotfl: vendama vutruvom. prachanaiye illai. PFC Dr. Jaiganes :wink:
Thanks groucho. I love this Avatar :D
Dude,
I am in no way a mr or kb basher as per your assumption and its my Opinon that Iruvar is the best work of MR much better than Nayagan.
And if you ask me why MR's kids and KB's women are irritating because i find them irritating and cliched.
And regarding the KH link, weak thing bro, try something harder!.
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Originally Posted by Scale
Scale,
Next?
AF,
I have given a clear explanation in my previous post. Read it again. I can quote from several other Directors tho dragging KH works and women is not my intention actually but that have served the purpose logically.
I disagree your opinions on KB's women and MR kids. Thats what my reply is for some people try to generalize it. Opinions differ and we can live with it. NOM, AF & Mr. Bruce Lee in advance :) Bala - Is soonapaana dead?
Welcome Bala! :)
Scale,
nandri. LEt's follow the tharaga mantram of A2D/D2A :razz:
//dig soonapaana is down for now and is in no hurry for a revival :)
P.S: naanum Mani admirer dhaan.. just pointed out a facet i don't like in his movies and i understand that you dont agree with what was being pointed out
Very good post complicateur !
Interesting line of thinking about why Anjali is appealing to the kid-viewer. As the kids seemed to have a 'world' of their own.
Slipping out and dancing in the night was all unbelievably thrilling to watch. It was extremely make-believe, where was there that kind of 'independence' in the real world. Forget cycling to the moon, rAthiri nErathil etc. This itself was quite amazing to watch and left quite an impression. My cousin- much to my annoyance - started calling me "dei AnnA".
Of course he overdid it, the children in MR's films can do with some good spanking (a la Srividhya in punnagai mannan). Regarding KB's heroines- they are meant to get on one's nerves I guess. Artist v Art all apart, Sindhu Bairavi and Manadhil Urudhi vEndum have made me develop sufficient antipathy towards SuhAsini for this lifetime.
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Yeah...forced feminism - almost patronising, if you ask me. It was different in KB's 70s, where I feel he showed real women with real issues. We can dispense with some characters which are like charicatures (Fadafat Jeyaletchumi in Sollataan Ninaikkiren comes to my mind), but overall they gave new faces and meaning to the TFI. Remember Sowcar, Sri Vidhya, Jeya Chitra, Sujatha, Sri Priya, Sri Devi...they all had memorable roles thanks to KB. What happened to them 80s onwards?
Reading between the lines,
This reminds me of Revathy in Mouna Raagam, except that she's not a kid. :lol2:Quote:
dancing in the night was all unbelievably thrilling to watch. It was extremely make-believe, where was there that kind of 'independence' in the real world.
Kb's heroines are incredibly masochistic, and handling of such characters is devoid of sensitivity. We have exceptions. But if you watched most of 'em in his oeuvre, you get the feeling the he is subverting "mores" and normality at expense of their characters.
Yeah, instead she was this young lady whose heart torn apart due to a personal tragedy :PQuote:
Originally Posted by thilak4life
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
my dad always raises this point to criticise this movie........i mean, she could have just moved on in other aspects in life..... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Maddy, the whole movie was about her not being able to move on.
"ukkArdA sOmbEri" and all sit oddly. I like that film too, but it i will have to say MR was still cutting his teeth.
Regarding Nayagan v Iruvar debate.....I would pick Nayagan twice over.
PR, Nayagan is a great film. But personally speaking, Iruvar is seminal work in Tamil cinema to-date.
I don't know if I could do justice to the film. But once again, Mr.Rangan's review is simply stunning. You should have read it by now.
Maddy,
Mani is very much worth discussing .. My problem with him is, he repeats his own stuff again and again.. Hence i got bored.. :(
infact, i like Thiruda THiruda very much.. its a cool movie ..
He wrote Story and SCREENPLAY for CAPTIAN's SATHIRYAN. It was one of the best movies of Captain till date
as u have deliberately brought kamalhaasan(kurudhipunal) into this thread.here are the similar roles which are sketched by kamalhaasan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scale
kids in kamal movies:
mahanadhi - shobana and the boy (before going to jail and after released from jail.)
avvai shanmugi - the girl charecter
sathileelavathi - 3 kid charecters are there.
kurudhipunal - the kid charecterization(u dint watch only the smooch right?)
aalavandhan twins - flashback
ask mani to watch these movies to know how kids really are in earth!...not as his kids who are from venus.
I think u r so obsessed with that kiss that u have mentioned only that particular scene among kamals movies!
:shock: :omg: r u from venus , if no, hw r u able to know abt venus kids :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivasaayi