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Friends,
Wonderful Statement of Insanity.
Knows very little of depth of Sangam Literature.
Knows very little of depth of evolution of Tamil Scripts from Brahmi which was developed for Sanskrit as proved with Scholarly quorte.
Keep onBluffing :o :shock: :lol:
This is the Tamil movement level :oops: :twisted:
Garbage mixed with toxic waste!Quote:
Originally Posted by Uppuma
Unfit for open dumping.
Friends,
Bismala's & fsg post are worth for what she confesses, as she is unable to reply any Scholars are Authors, she may end up tamil need not mean tamil
Garbage mixed with toxic waste!
Unfit for open dumping i.e., bismala post are
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DEAR Friends,
I Quote from
//http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sangam#Sangam_legends
Etymology
The word Sangam is probably of Indo-Aryan origin, coming from Sangha, the Buddhist and Jain term for an assembly of monks. In Tamil the word means "assembly" or "academy".[4] In 470 CE, a Dravida Sangha was established in Madurai by a Jain named Vajranandi. [5] During that time the Tamil country was under the occupation of Kalabhras, who had displaced the traditional Tamil kings. The Kalabhra rulers were followers of either Buddhism or Jainism. The Dravida Sangha took much interest in the Tamil language and literature. [6] We can also find Jain names such as Uloccnaar and Maathirthan among the early poets. Jain cosmology and mythology are also found mentioned in the early Sangam poems.[
Evidence
There has been no contemporary archaeological or scientific evidence found to substantiate whether these academies existed at all and if so, the dates, the participants or their works.
[edit] Literary evidence
Although the term Sangam literature is applied to the corpus of the earliest known Tamil literature belonging to the c. 200 BCE – 200 CE, the name Sangam and the legend was probably of a much later date.[8] The early literature belonging to the pre-Pallava dynasty period (c. 400 – 600 CE) do not contain any mention of the Sangam academies, although some relationship between Madurai and literature may be found in some of the Sangam age literature.[9] Further references to Sangam and its association with Madurai have been mentioned by poets such as Sekkilar, Andal, Auvaiyar and Kambar (all belonging to the tenth to the twelfth centuries CE). The actual poems of the Sangam literature themselves do not directly mention such academies. However the poem Mathuraikkanci (761-763), which belongs to the early collection of Pattupattu, describes Madurai as the 'place where authors met and interacted'.[10].
[edit] Archeological evidence
Claims of the Sangams and the description of sunken land masses have been dismissed by the historian and scientific community at large.
Historians refer to the Tamil literature from c. 200 BCE to 300 CE as Sangam literature.[13][14] Sangam literature comprises of some of the oldest extant Tamil literature, and deals with love, war, governance, trade and bereavement.[15] Unfortunately much of the Tamil literature belonging to the Sangam period had been lost.//
This is the Factual Position. Anybody can live in Fictious and Superstitious Beliefs and keep bluffing. But these would only put Tamils all over the World, as one who do not accept Historical Truths, as these are Forum- viewed and Open to all. So Meaningless blufss, and positions with no support being repeated again make yourself only as a Fundamentalist with no Scientific Mind
Dear Friends,
I quote from
file:///H:/Winlines/New%20Folder/Namboothiri.htm#Etymology
//according to Historians the period of the first arrival of Namboothiris in Kerala happned around 7th-9th century AD.
The excavations made proves that Kerala was once under the sea as fossils of ancient marine animals were found from almost all parts of Kerala. The belief of modern Historians that Namboothiries migrated to Kerala after 5th century is certainly wrong considering the fact that even in geographically separated (From Indian subcontinent)SriLanka there were sanskrit influences as early as third century BCE. When the Mauryan Emperor Asoka sent Buddhist missionaries to Srilanka around 275 BCE the capital of Sril Lanka was named Anuradhapura(See Mahavamsa). As it is sure that sanskrit coexist with Aryan/Brahmin societies it can be considered that Srilanka was a Hindu land with Brahmins,Kshatriyas,Vaisyas and Sudras alongwith outcastes(Chandalas).The King had established marriage relations with Asoka and the whole Kingdom was converted to Buddhism. Hinduism reappeared in the island only around 1000 AD when Cholas conquerd it and established the province of MummudiChola Mandalam(Jaffna Peninsula)and settled it with Hindu Tamilians.
The presence of Sanskrit speaking Aryans in SriLanka as early as 275 BCE proves that in geographically connected Kerala too(with India) there were Namboothiri Brahmins as early as 275 BCE and that the Chera Kings of Kerala of the time were noble Kshatriyas and not Dravidians. The Mauryan inscriptions mention the Cheras as Kerala Putras .This proves that Vedic religion predates Dravidian culture, Buddhism and Jainism and Communism in Kerala.//
Please use as on date Scientific Truths
Apologies for the interruption, but these are my thoughts on the article.Quote:
Originally Posted by devapriya
The first sentence in this article is highly inflammatory.
This one is really funny because, the author has referenced Hart's book to claim validity. We all know Hart's contribution towards naming Tamil a classical language. If the claims of the author are right and if Tamil Sangam is only a legend (according to Hart), why did George Hart claim and support the classical status of Tamil. :roll:Quote:
Sangam refers to Tamil academies, which according to Tamil legends, enabled poets and authors to gather periodically to publish their work.[1].
A lot of material in the article is referenced by 'The Similie of Murugan' which is not a history book (its a literary work or rather literary evaluation of Tamil literature).
The validity of the whole article is questionable to say the least.
Sometimes when i come across articles like this i wonder if wikipedia is a boon or a bane.
Dear Dsath,
Sagnam. i.e., the presence of 3 Sangams all have no proofs, based on a Single song of Irayanar Agaporulurai, of 9th Cen, the names given for Pulavars of 2nd Sangam, majoritily are the names from the present collection belong to 200BCE- 200CE.
The origin of the word Sangam is Sanskrit, and Tholkappiyam (100CE) clearly tells Tamil word cannot start by Sa. Kural has hardly 4 Kurals starts with sa, i.e., the law is valid till 250CE., exception are Sanskrit words as Tholkappiyar tell, when you write Sanskrit- Vadasol- remove Vada Scripts and (Vadaezuththu voriye).
Those of us who have been put from roof tops about Legendry items such as Sangam or Meaningless predating of TholKappiyam and meaningless back dating of Vedas, it would be very difficult to accept the Scientific Truths.
The Sangam Lit. liberally uses Vedic Legends, such as Thiru Murugatrupadai for Muruga Birth or all the Avathars of Vishnu in Paripadal, and paripadal even names Samaveda. Mathurai Kanchi refers a Sanskrit Assembly in Kanchipuram. Mankmekhalai even makes it much more clear that Anthanars used Sanskrit.
Both Sanskrit and Tamil are One of the Oldest Languages of the world, and as per the Editor of Tami Lexicon from Chennai University Prof.Burrows.,RigVedas jave 20 Tamil words, other Speculate much more.
Prof. Hart is clear that Tamil has Burrowed more Sanskrit words than the other way round, but later Sanskrit burrowed Poetic Styles.
Chennai University has to employ Europeans only for this reason, that They cannot keep on bluffs against world Univesities such as theThani Tamil School. My quotes in Previous page in Tamil would help you much.
Wikipedia, is more of Secular and Trust worthy, but needs cross checking in rare cases.