vEtti, sherwani, loongi, kaili, sarong, saaram, etc

[venkkiram]

Guess Bala condemning the present culture of TN bride grooms wearing northie dresses in marriages and receptions. If yes, I also endorse that POV. To me even coat suite also not needed. Veshti is enough!

[Bala (Karthik)]

Guess Bala condemning the present culture of TN bride grooms wearing northie dresses in marriages and receptions. If yes, I also endorse that POV. To me even coat suite also not needed. Veshti is enough!
Apartment association secretary in Sathi Leelavathi: "Naai mattum dhaan saar allowed. Hm , manushaalum". No sherwani!!!!!

[littlemaster1982]

No sherwani!!!!!

:yes:

[SoftSword]

ennattha seruvaani... aambala chudidhaarnu sollunga....

[Cinefan]

Cotton la men kooda kurta pyjama podalam.Nalla irukkum.Enna Chennai Agni Natchathiram heat-ukku sherwani will not suit.

Culture-nnu paartha,Suit for a reception or even for office wear in un- Indian.Podradhillaya? English dress ok,north indian-not ok-va?

[SoftSword]

not all northie dresses in general cf... seruvani konjam comedya irukkum... jiginaalaam vachu... pasangalukku edhukku jiginaa... adhum 5 adi irundhukittu adha vera pottukkuvaanga... pante thevai illa... lol

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

There is something called Sherwaani type coat! Mixture of both, ginguchaa ellaam kammiyaa panna solli order kuduthukkalaam.

[Plum]

Or jigina overcoat & dark red Sherwani kinda dress (I dont know the name. northie wedding dress madhiri irundhudhu)
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Idhukkum aavana senjiruppeenga nu nambaren!!!! Rascals

Bala, ungaLukkAga latest news threadla idhai pOttEn (http://www.mayyam.com/talk/showthread.php?3159-Latest-News-on-Tamil-Cinema&p=857789&viewfull=1#post857789)



dirvenkatprabhu (http://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=dirvenkatprabhu) At @Prasanna_actor (http://twitter.com/Prasanna_actor) and sneha's sangeet with my wife!!!
natpu nadigai funjAbi poNNA?
Inviting Bala Karthik's comment on this....

[Plum]

Cotton la men kooda kurta pyjama podalam.Nalla irukkum.Enna Chennai Agni Natchathiram heat-ukku sherwani will not suit.

Culture-nnu paartha,Suit for a reception or even for office wear in un- Indian.Podradhillaya? English dress ok,north indian-not ok-va?

Englis nam thAi mozhi.(Feeyar: kaNgaL panitthana) North Indies nam kula edhiri :evil:

[Plum]

Oh.. Now I am the baddie, huh
baddienulAm yAru sonnA? I am not judging either Pras-natpu nadigai or you. yOv avainga kalyAnathukku aduthadhai CD0yA relese paNNi adhai neer pArthAlum ummai nAn bad baainu solla mAttEnyA - All their wish-your wish.

[Bala (Karthik)]

.(Feeyar: kaNgaL panitthana) :
:rotfl: Yov, engayum vidradha ilaya, aniyayamya! :lol:

[Bala (Karthik)]

:-) Rendu pethula yaar Aandavar rasigarnu therle. Yegappatta paattunga.

yara irundha enna. Sattaya kizhichittu gosham, vera enna naan kekka poren? (I'm serious, no kidding, VR varugai)



Payyan paavam nadakka konjam kashtapatta pola therinjichu. I dont think it was Sherwani. Adhayum thaandi bejaara oru aadai.
Idhukku avan sattaya kizhichirukkanum. Suit is in any day, NI dress needs to be weeded out

P.S: People often mistake this with other stuff like English, shirt, suit, N.I food etc... Irrelevant

[P_R]

aduththapadiyA, kalyAna sAppAttula butter naan-panneer butter masala-vai ozhikkirOm.

[P_R]

Of course pala thadavai pEsirukkOm. irundhaalum, irundhaalum pre-emptiveA kaduppai padhivy senjiravENdiyadhu en kadamai: kuzhandhaikku Hrbksh -nu pEr vaippAinga :x

[SoftSword]

take this name for a kid: haigrieve - yaaro krishn peraam...

[hattori_hanzo]

yara irundha enna. Sattaya kizhichittu gosham, vera enna naan kekka poren? (I'm serious, no kidding, VR varugai)

P.S: People often mistake this with other stuff like English, shirt, suit, N.I food etc... Irrelevant

:-) Idhukku dhaan VR ungaloda paakanom sonnen. gosham, aNdhar ellaam senju pala kaalam aachu.


Idhukku avan sattaya kizhichirukkanum. Suit is in any day, NI dress needs to be weeded out

Revisited the first half of MMA last night. The dress worn by Prasanna is the one which Surya wears in the song Oyyale. If I'm not wrong, Sunil Shetty wears the same kind of costume in the song 'Jodhi Nilavu' in 12B.

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

aduththapadiyA, kalyAna sAppAttula butter naan-panneer butter masala-vai ozhikkirOm.

Rightu! namma kitta illaatha vareity ya?!? Any south food allow pannalaam.

Inga paarunga, namma kitta ennenna foods irukku! ithai ellaam yen use panna koodathu?!

http://news.vikatan.com/index.php?nid=8072#cmt241

களி, கம்பஞ்சோறு, சோளப் பனியாரம், வல்லாரை சுடுச்சாறு, ராகி தோசை... பரம்பரைப் பரம்பரையாகத் தமிழ் மண்ணில் மணக்கும் இயற்கை உணவுகள்... , தினை, கம்பு, சாமை, வரகு போன்ற சிறுதானியங்களில் செய்யப்படும் பாரம்பரிய உணவுகள் மற்றும் மூலிகை உணவுகள் விற்பனை செய்யப்படுகின்றன. அத்திப்பழ அல்வா, முள்முருங்கை தோசை, செம்பருத்தி இட்லி, குதிரைவாலி பொங்கல், தினை சேவு, பனியாரம்... என நீளும் உணவு வகைகளை மக்கள் ஆர்வத்துடன் சுவைத்து வருகிறார்கள்.

[selvakumar]

It is difficult to wear dhoti. To save embarrassing moments, I always insist to stitch it like our regular "Kaili" (ithukku enna english word?). But you can see stiff resistance for that change. அப்படியெல்லாம் முஸ்லீம்கள்தான் உடுத்துவாங்க. நாம பண்ணக்கூடாது". Any similar experience from anyone? I don't like Sherwani since it looks funny. But I am not comfortable with Dhoti either. Shirt-trouser pottu neat ah, comfortable ninnutu poiykittae irukka vendiyathuthaan.

[mr_karthik]

It is difficult to wear dhoti. To save embarrassing moments, I always insist to stitch it like our regular "Kaili" (ithukku enna english word?). But you can see stiff resistance for that change. அப்படியெல்லாம் முஸ்லீம்கள்தான் உடுத்துவாங்க. நாம பண்ணக்கூடாது". Any similar experience from anyone? I don't like Sherwani since it looks funny. But I am not comfortable with Dhoti either. Shirt-trouser pottu neat ah, comfortable ninnutu poiykittae irukka vendiyathuthaan.

எப்போது பார்த்தாலும் 'தமிழ். தமிழ்' என்று முழங்கும் கவிஞர் வைரமுத்து, எந்த ஒரு விழாவிலும் வேட்டி, சட்டை அணிந்து வந்து பார்த்ததே இல்லை.

உடையில் மட்டும் வடநாட்டார் போல குர்தா தான் எப்போதும் அணிகிறார்.

[SoftSword]

pazhaya thamizhnaattu rajavellaam vettikattikittaa sandaikku ponaanga?
kudhirai mela erurapo madichu kattikkuvaangalaa epdi?

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Those rajas and even warriors wear the Veshti differently. They won't even wear shirt. Its a different type of pyjama similar to what we call today half-kurtha!

Actually Illayaraja too wears this, and Veshti!

[joe]

வேட்டி கட்டுவதை வைத்து தமிழ் பண்பை கணக்கிடுவதென்றால் மலையாளிகள் தான் அதிக தமிழர்கள்.

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

வெள்ளைக்காரன் கண்டுபுடிச்ச கோட்டு சூட்டு கூட போட்டுக்கோங்க ஆனா வடநாட்டு பழக்கங்களை தப்பித்தவறி கூட உபயோகிக்காதீங்க. இதான் இங்க பேசிட்ருக்கோம். அதுவும் கல்யாணத்துல வடநாட்டான் போல மாப்பிள்ளை குர்த்தா ஷெர்வாணி அணிவது கட்டாயம் தவிர்க்கணும். வேட்டி கட்டலைன்னா கோட் சூட் போட்டுக்கலாம். அதான் இங்கே பேசப்படும் மேட்டர்!

[joe]

சீதோஷ்ண நிலைக்கேற்ற உடைகளை அணிதல் நல்லது என்பதைத் தாண்டி மொழியையும் உடையையும் சம்பந்தப்படுத்துவது எந்த விதத்தில் சரியென தெரியவில்லை .

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

அப்படி பார்த்தா கூட நம்ம ஊருக்கு பைஜாமா குர்த்தா, ஷெர்வானி எல்லாம் சரி இல்லையே!

தமிழ்லயே வடமொழி கலப்பு தவிர்க்கிறாங்க சிலர்! இரசினி, கமலகாசன், இளையராசா, சேடாத்திரி இப்படி! கேள்விப்பட்ருபீங்களே?!

[joe]

அப்படி பார்த்தா கூட நம்ம ஊருக்கு பைஜாமா குர்த்தா, ஷெர்வானி எல்லாம் சரி இல்லையே!
யாரு சரிண்ணது ..ஆனா ஒண்ணு ..ஏ.சி -ல இருந்தா எந்த ஊரா இருந்தாலும் ஒரே சீதோஷ்ணம் தான் ..அப்போ குர்தாவும் அணியலாம் ..கோமணமும் அணியலாம் ..அவரவர் வசதிப்படி.

[selvakumar]

I think Vairamuthu and ilayaraja wear cotton dresses. It must be comfortable. So, no point in whether it is pyajama or Sherwani as long as it is comfortable for them. I haven't seen annan Thirumalavanan wearning a dhoti. We cannot rule out his tamil patru. So, dress doesn't have any relation with that.

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

கல்யாணத்துல கூடவா வட இந்திய கலாச்சார உடை, என்பதே இங்கு கேள்வி!

[SoftSword]

koat soot yes yes!! seruvaani no no!!
bharathiyaare koat pottukittu dhana thamizh valartthaar!!

[joe]

கல்யாணத்துல கூடவா வட இந்திய கலாச்சார உடை, என்பதே இங்கு கேள்வி!
பலரும் கல்யாணத்தின் போது பாரம்பரிய உடையும் , வரவேற்பின் போது வேறு உடையும் அணிவதாக தெரிகிறது

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

sari, enna thaan irunthaalum avangavanga choice!

[NOV]

It is difficult to wear dhoti. To save embarrassing moments, I always insist to stitch it like our regular "Kaili" (ithukku enna english word?). But you can see stiff resistance for that change. அப்படியெல்லாம் முஸ்லீம்கள்தான் உடுத்துவாங்க. நாம பண்ணக்கூடாது". Any similar experience from anyone? I don't like Sherwani since it looks funny. But I am not comfortable with Dhoti either. Shirt-trouser pottu neat ah, comfortable ninnutu poiykittae irukka vendiyathuthaan.
sarong is the malay word for kaili, and is the accepted english word for it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarong

Why embarrassing? If not used to tying vEtti, use a belt.
kalaachaaram karudhi, my vote for wedding is always vEtti.... dinner receptionkku coat-suit looks elegant. sherwani tends to poke at all inconvenient places...
and anyone with any kind of figure, will still look good in coat-suit :)

[Bala (Karthik)]

and anyone with any kind of figure, will still look good in coat-suit :)
Appadi podunga saar!

[SoftSword]

Appadi podunga saar!

sounds like 'pudichu jail'la podunga sir' :lol:

[Bala (Karthik)]

SS
Kadhal Desam dialogue: "Oru sportman (peNN) oda manasu innoru sportsman (peNN) ku dhaan theriyin"

[Plum]

AC irukkum...அப்போ குர்தாவும் அணியலாம் ..கோமணமும் அணியலாம் ..அவரவர் வசதிப்படி.

thappu, rendAvadhu option konjam jaasthi kuLirum ;-)

[SoftSword]

thappu, rendAvadhu option konjam jaasthi kuLirum ;-)

pantukku mela komanam kattalaam illa... adha solraaru joe...

[Plum]

Anyway, idhula Araaichi paNNa oNnum illa :). North Indies Culture should be avoided like plague by us. North indies culture vaLarkka avanga irukkAngalla? nAmaLum edhukku avanga culture-ai vaLarkkaNum. That means Sherwani, Advani, Panner Butter Masala, Papdi Chat, Tamanna Bhatia all strict no no in Tamil Weddings. That is all, yuvar aanar.

[HonestRaj]

my choice would be.. coat-suit like vellaikaran dhorai.. no sherwani.. jippas.. i'm allergic to those kind of dresses...
when others wear these type of dresses as ethnic wear.. i'm - close eyes - mode

[mr_karthik]

neenga pazhaiya kaala Raja Rani dress pOttukkittu, thalaiyil kireedam vachikkittu kalyaanam paNNunga.

yaaru thadukka pOrA?. avanga avanga ishtamthaane.

[SoftSword]

thalaila raja thalappa vechu kalyanam panradhu ippovum namma erode beltla nadandhuttu dhane irukku...

[joe]

sarong is the malay word for kaili
Anne , It should come from Malayalam word சாரம்(ங்) ..In kerala and our dist in TN , it is called as சாரம்(ங்) .Same in Myanmar language also.

[SoftSword]

saaram katradhunaa, paint adikkiradhukku moongil katradhu illa?
its lungi - long angi(300BC) > longi(1300AD) > lungi(1947 onwards)

[Saai]

saaram katradhunaa, paint adikkiradhukku moongil katradhu illa?
its lungi - long angi(300BC) > longi(1300AD) > lungi(1947 onwards)

:lol:

[joe]

Soft,
Moogil katturathu Charam , whereas lungi is Saram.. Infact until i came to Trichy for college studies , I didn't know the word 'Lungi' ,since we used to call it as Saram ..As far as I know Saram is used more in Kerala .

[hattori_hanzo]

Anne , It should come from Malayalam word சாரம்(ங்) ..In kerala and our dist in TN , it is called as சாரம்(ங்) .Same in Myanmar language also.

:yes: I too have heard my friends from Kerala/Kerala-TN border use the word Saram.


சீதோஷ்ண நிலைக்கேற்ற உடைகளை அணிதல் நல்லது என்பதைத் தாண்டி மொழியையும் உடையையும் சம்பந்தப்படுத்துவது எந்த விதத்தில் சரியென தெரியவில்லை .

Joe, சீதோஷ்ண sounds like Situation. Do they mean the same?

[joe]

Hattori,
As far as I know சீதோஷ்ணம் = தட்பவெப்பநிலை

[selvakumar]

Almost 6 years back, I went to office (ethnic day) like Attagaasam Ajith. Both myself and my friend spent money on fake gold and bought a lot of them to create the impact. Office la ponnungala vida naanga nerya nagai pottrindom. Most of the guys came in NI dresses. I used to think that it is more comfortable for them. I haven't used the NI ethnic dresses. So, unable to comment on which one would be more comfortable. I just find them funny. So, haven't used them. I must say it is up to individual preference. I don't think we should worry too much on this. If we think like that, even coat and suit will be alien to us :)

NOV - I have tried with belt as well. But still I have the mental fear and avoid wearing dhoti all the time unless it is fully stitched like Kaili. Not sure whether I would be comfortable in Dhoti for marriage. It is better to go with something tried and tested.

[joe]

stitched like Kaili.
Stitching kaili itself unusual ... Kerala-la perumpaalum kaili mootturathilla.

[Anban]

I have worn vesti to office a few times. no need to fever.. wear a belt . also wear a bermuda/shorts

[SoftSword]

Almost 6 years back, I went to office (ethnic day) like Attagaasam Ajith. Both myself and my friend spent money on fake gold and bought a lot of them to create the impact. Office la ponnungala vida naanga nerya nagai pottrindom. Most of the guys came in NI dresses. I used to think that it is more comfortable for them. I haven't used the NI ethnic dresses. So, unable to comment on which one would be more comfortable. I just find them funny. So, haven't used them. I must say it is up to individual preference. I don't think we should worry too much on this. If we think like that, even coat and suit will be alien to us :)

NOV - I have tried with belt as well. But still I have the mental fear and avoid wearing dhoti all the time unless it is fully stitched like Kaili. Not sure whether I would be comfortable in Dhoti for marriage. It is better to go with something tried and tested.

selva... nammala madhiri singles'ku jeans dhaan correctu... to be in the safer side ;)

[joe]

also wear a bermuda/shorts
Ithu Romba Mukkiyam :lol:

[SoftSword]

Soft,
Moogil katturathu Charam , whereas lungi is Saram.. Infact until i came to Trichy for college studies , I didn't know the word 'Lungi' ,since we used to call it as Saram ..As far as I know Saram is used more in Kerala .

joe...
indha madhiri parambariya visayamellam ungakita irundhu dhaan therinjukkuren... thappu solluvenaa?
adhu summa velaattukku potta post...
but i hav always heard it as lungi... thats my everyday home dress... not now...
most lungi export is happening from erode only and its marketed as lungi there... sangu mark lungi, suntv ads vera poduvaaingalae...
i agree its called differently in southern part of tn.. i heard the word kaili, first time i heard was in my virudhunagar friends home...
saram, only today when i said..

[selvakumar]

Stitching kaili itself unusual ... Kerala-la perumpaalum kaili mootturathilla.
:o oh.. We always wear it only after stitching it. But we don't close dhoti.

[selvakumar]

I have worn vesti to office a few times. no need to fever.. wear a belt . also wear a bermuda/shorts
Ithukku pesama ulla pant ah pottukalam. :)

SS - Safety ellam thevai illai unless something unusual happens which you might have experienced SS :P No need for Jeans.

[SoftSword]

selva... adhae dhaan...
enna no needsnu solliteenga... jeans is the best.. no need to wash...
last time i wore a formal pant was more than a year ago...

[joe]

Selva,
உடல் உழைப்பு வேலை செய்பவர்கள் பெரும்பாலும் மூட்டப்படாத கைலி / சாரம் / லுங்கி தான் அணிவார்கள் ..காரணம் ..சில நேரம் வசதியாக ஒரு பக்கத்தை இழுத்து முகமோ , கையோ துடைத்துக்கொள்ளலாம் .

[joe]

'சாரம்' என்ற தமிழ் வார்த்தைக்கு பல அர்த்தங்கள் உள்ளன ..பொதுவாக சாரம் = வலிமை = உறுதி. அந்த வகையிலேயே கட்டடத்துக்கு வலு சேர்க்கும் அந்த மூங்கில் கட்டுக்கு 'சாரம்' என்று பெயர் வந்திருக்க வேண்டும் .. பொதுவாக எங்கள் ஊரில் "அடி சாரம் இல்ல" என்பார்கள் ,அதாவது "அடி பலமாக இல்லை" .
அதற்கு எதிர் பதம் 'நிசாரம்' .அதாவது "அவன் அதை நிசாரமாக தூக்கி வீசினான்" ..just like that என்பது போல.

[SoftSword]

Selva,
உடல் உழைப்பு வேலை செய்பவர்கள் பெரும்பாலும் மூட்டப்படாத கைலி / சாரம் / லுங்கி தான் அணிவார்கள் ..காரணம் ..சில நேரம் வசதியாக ஒரு பக்கத்தை இழுத்து முகமோ , கையோ துடைத்துக்கொள்ளலாம் .

moottuna lungi is easy too...
madichu kattirundhaa apdiya madippa mattum uruvi rendu kailayum pudichu mugam thodaikkalaam...
i think its just the practise which different area ppl have...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHmd4orUPFw
madhurai pakkam epdi kattuvaainga? is it shown wrong in this movie?
even the other lungi move kutthu songs hav used moottunu lungi...
idhulaam vachi idhu dhaan sarinu solla varala... oru idhukku solraen..

[hattori_hanzo]

Hattori,
As far as I know சீதோஷ்ணம் = தட்பவெப்பநிலை

Thanks Joe. Probably, Seedham (Water) + Ushnam (Veppam/heat) = சீதோஷ்ணம்.

[Plum]

எங்கள் ஊரில் "அடி சாரம் இல்ல" என்பார்கள்
Since சாரம் is also lungi in your area, idhukku vERa arththam kooda varudhE :noteeth:

[joe]

Since சாரம் is also lungi in your area, idhukku vERa arththam kooda varudhE :noteeth:
True :lol: ..வழக்கமா யாருக்காவது அடி பட்டால் ,விசாரிக்கும் போது "அடி பலமாக இல்லை" என்பதற்கு "அடி சாரம் இல்லை" என்று சொல்வார்கள் ..இன்னொரு உதாரணம் சொல்ல வேண்டுமென்றால் "ஊருல மழை எப்படி?"-ன்னா "ஒண்ணும் சாரம் இல்லை."-ன்னு சொல்றது

[Roshan]

Anne , It should come from Malayalam word சாரம்(ங்) ..In kerala and our dist in TN , it is called as சாரம்(ங்) .Same in Myanmar language also.

In Sri Lanka also it is Saaram in Tamil, Sarong in English (or Malay I donno) and Sarama in Sinhalese. In Myanmar Saaram is for the male version of lungi and the female version is called Lungi itself. For both male and female, Lungi is the national dress in Myanmar. It is very common in Myanmar for people to wear Saaram/Lungi to office. I have seen people even holding Director positions wearing Lungi to workplace. Even if they wear trousesrs to work, they would mostly prefer to wear Lungis for any formal meetings and functions (mostly dark green lungis and white shirt). There's a government school next to our office, where I used to work in Myanamr before. The school uniform of the boys was green saaram and white shirt.

[joe]

In Sri Lanka also it is Saaram in Tamil
No wonder one more similarity between Kerala , Nanjil Nadu and Srilanka

[Roshan]

Almost 6 years back, I went to office (ethnic day) like Attagaasam Ajith. Both myself and my friend spent money on fake gold and bought a lot of them to create the impact. Office la ponnungala vida naanga nerya nagai pottrindom. Most of the guys came in NI dresses. I used to think that it is more comfortable for them. I haven't used the NI ethnic dresses. So, unable to comment on which one would be more comfortable. I just find them funny. So, haven't used them. I must say it is up to individual preference. I don't think we should worry too much on this. If we think like that, even coat and suit will be alien to us :)

I am quite surprised with yours and Joe's post on this. Neenga rendu paerum non-Tamil clothing'ku kadum kandanam therivippeengannu nenechaen but it's the opposite. Anyway I totally agree with you :)

[joe]

Roshan,
Mynamar , Srilanka -la Mootuvangala illaiya?

[joe]

Enga office-la 3 Myanmar girls work pannuranga ..oru naaL Saaram uduththi vara sollaNum :)

[Anban]

pant potta therinjudum selva .
Ithukku pesama ulla pant ah pottukalam. :)

SS - Safety ellam thevai illai unless something unusual happens which you might have experienced SS :P No need for Jeans.
shorts potta, vettiya thairiyamaa madichu kooda kattalaam..

[Roshan]

Roshan,
Mynamar , Srilanka -la Mootuvangala illaiya?

In Sri Lanka yes and in Myanmar male version is stitched but female Lungi mostly unstitched. They wear it like a rap-around skirt.

[Roshan]

Enga office-la 3 Myanmar girls work pannuranga ..oru naaL Saaram uduththi vara sollaNum :)

It is lungi for female as I mentioned earlier.

[joe]

It is lungi for female as I mentioned earlier.
oh! ok ..Does religion make a difference ..One of 3 girls is a muslim ,which is a surprise ..that I thought no muslims in Myanmar :)

[hattori_hanzo]

True :lol: ..வழக்கமா யாருக்காவது அடி பட்டால் ,விசாரிக்கும் போது "அடி பலமாக இல்லை" என்பதற்கு "அடி சாரம் இல்லை" என்று சொல்வார்கள் ..இன்னொரு உதாரணம் சொல்ல வேண்டுமென்றால் "ஊருல மழை எப்படி?"-ன்னா "ஒண்ணும் சாரம் இல்லை."-ன்னு சொல்றது

"Saaram Illai" in Malayalam means Parava Illai, Its OK, Chalega.

[joe]

"Saaram Illai" in Malayalam means Parava Illai, Its OK, Chalega.

Yes , Infact it is Pure Tamil ..namma maaRitom ..avanga vachirukkanga :)

[Roshan]

oh! ok ..Does religion make a difference ..One of 3 girls is a muslim ,which is a surprise ..that I thought no muslims in Myanmar :)

I dont think religion would make a difference. My maid in Myanmar was a Muslim (Indian origin and also Tamil) and she wears Lungi. IIRC, around 3% of the population is Muslim. They also have a vast number of Hindus (Indian Immigrants, mostly during WW2) and also a considerable amount of Christians (mostly 7 Days Adventese).

[hattori_hanzo]

Sari Veshtiyo Lungiyo, Belt podalama vendaama edhuva irundhaalum eppidi uduthikkanumnu namma Vidyakka solli kudukkarango.

http://www.sify.com/movies/Vidya-Balan-makes-the-lungi-sexy-imagegallery-bollywood-mfqrAhcibii.html?html=5

[Plum]

Just a note - Myanmar has a significant Hindu/Tamil population who settled and prospered prior to WWII. Infact, it was WWII that resulted in a good number of them migrating back to India/TN.

[joe]

Just a note - Myanmar has a significant Hindu/Tamil population who settled and prospered prior to WWII. Infact, it was WWII that resulted in a good number of them migrating back to India/TN.
ithellam Naanga parasakthi-laye paarthuttom :lol:

[Plum]

Joe - adhAnE :lol: . How did I forget that? Gunasekaran...what a man!

[Roshan]

ithellam Naanga parasakthi-laye paarthuttom :lol:

The Indian-Burmese that I have met had told me that their ancestors migrated during WW2. But most of them hardly bother about their history and background, so chances are high for them to be wrong. I think the people who got back to India made a wise decision.

[Roshan]

Remba digress paNNittoam.. sorry guys.

[joe]

I think the people who got back to India made a wise decision.
But some of them claimed that they left lots of lands for which they still hold the documents ..Many of them are karaikudi chettiyars .Have read some articles and videos ..they formed an association and trying the get their properties legally .

[joe]

Remba digress paNNittoam.. sorry guys.
Mokkai shockings pathi pesuRathukku konjam ulaga nadappu therinjukkiRathu better :)

[Roshan]

But some of them claimed that they left lots of lands for which they still hold the documents ..Many of them are karaikudi chettiyars .Have read some articles and videos ..they formed an association and trying the get their properties legally .

I dont think they can claim their properties back. Anga uLLavangaLukkae kashtam with the Junta government controlling everything. Only a few of the Indian immigrants are doing well there. It's tough even for the native burmese. But things are changing quite faster there in Myanmar with Aung San Suu Khyi's release. But then again there are a lot of chances for ethnicity based hostilities to arise as they have a number of ethnic groups among the majority Budhiststs and in addition they have the Hindu, Muslim, Christian minority.

[selvakumar]

But some of them claimed that they left lots of lands for which they still hold the documents ..Many of them are karaikudi chettiyars .Have read some articles and videos ..they formed an association and trying the get their properties legally .
Yes. Read this in Subbaiah sir's blog. Felt sorry for them. The way he connected that with Karma and the current things happening in Burma was interesting for a student in astrology :)

[Roshan]

Yes. Read this in Subbaiah sir's blog. Felt sorry for them. The way he connected that with Karma and the current things happening in Burma was interesting for a student in astrology :)

Can I have the link Selva? Karma is one thing everybody, including the most educated believe there in Myanmar. They blame everything on Karma. There used to be continuous power cuts at some point when I was working there. No body would know the reason for power cuts because media doesnt exist there at all. I once told a colleague if she can call up the electricity board and find out (as I was frustrated that the work was getting delayed due to power cuts), she was literally shocked and said "oh no ! we cannot do that.. they will arrest us, we have to wait until they restore power. It is our Karma we have to be patient" - I felt like laughing loud but did not want to hurt her feelings by doing so.

[selvakumar]

Roshan,
Here you go.

http://classroom2007.blogspot.in/2009/01/blog-post_05.html


இவ்வளவு பேரின் வயிற்றெரிச்சலும் சும்மா போகுமா? பர்மா இன்றளவும்
முடங்கிப்போய்க் கிடக்கிறது. ஆண்டுகள் அறுபதானாலும் பர்மாவால் எழுந்து
நிற்க முடியவில்லை! சாபம் என்பது அதுதான்!

அதே நேரத்தில் மலேசியா அரசு, யுத்தத்திற்குப் பிறகு அனைவருக்கும் வேண்டிய
உதவிகளைச் செய்தது. வந்தவர்கள் எல்லாம் ஆங்கே மீண்டும் திரும்பிச் சென்றார்
கள். அவர்களும் இன்று நன்றாக இருக்கிறார்கள். அந்த நாடும் நன்றாக இருக்கிறது!

[selvakumar]

BTB, It was one of the best posts from that blog. The person referred in the article is his father!

[San_K]

வேட்டி கட்டுவதை வைத்து தமிழ் பண்பை கணக்கிடுவதென்றால் மலையாளிகள் தான் அதிக தமிழர்கள்.

They were 'once upon a time' tamils. were not they?

[Roshan]

Thanks Selva. I'll go through it.

[NOV]

I violently object to stitching vEtti :lol2:

selva, as I see there is no prob in tying vEtti, looks like you have a phobia.
six yards saree uduththittu Oduraanga, aaduraanga, naama vEtti katturatha paththi pEsittirukkOm :)

joe, I tried googling saaram... couldnt find anything. any links or wiki?

[venkkiram]

I violently object to stitching vEtti :lol2: This is my house lungi!

[joe]

NOV,
There is nothing much mentioned in wiki .

Tamil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_language): லுங்கி, or Saram(சரம் ), also known as a sarong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarong),
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lungi

Wiki-ya nampureenga . Manushala nampa maateengureenga ..Enga oorula innum Saaram thaan :)

[NOV]

Wiki-ya nampureenga . Manushala nampa maateengureenga ..Enga oorula innum Saaram thaan :):notthatway:
i just wanted additional information avlOthaan.... idhuvaraikkum saaram paththi kElvi pattathillai... connection with malay sarong is interesting, thats why I looked up
(sarong also means cover in malay) sarong pisau means knife cover

btw, who has heard of SPG? :lol:

[joe]

Anne , what is SPG?

Btw, Why I insist that saaram comes from Tamil / MalayaLam rather than Malay is ..I think malay is new baby compare to Tamil and Malayalam ..And Tamil / malayalam influence was there in Myanmar.

[NOV]

sarong party girls :lol:

the malay word is சாரொங் not சாரம் :)

[joe]

the malay word is சாரொங் not சாரம் :)
You mean the 'Kedai' is not from கடை ?

[joe]

And Myanmar also says சாரோங் ..Do you think it should come from Malay rather than Tamil / MalayaLam?

[NOV]

You mean the 'Kedai' is not from கடை ?
and keldai is from kazhuthai :lol:

And Myanmar also says சாரோங் ..Do you think it should come from Malay rather than Tamil / MalayaLam?I say no such thing joe... didnt know its called sarong in burma :roll:

[app_engine]

dig
எனக்கு என்னமோ இந்த 'அம்' விகுதியோட முடியற எல்லாத்தமிழ் வாக்குகள் மேலேயும் 'கொஞ்சம்' 'சந்தேகம்' தான் :-)

சாரம் எதாவது 'சார்' ல இருந்து வந்துருக்கப்போவுது... (மன்-> மனம், ஹ்ருதய் -> இருதயம், சுக் -> சுகம்...)
:lol2:

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[NOV]

Interesting
sarong in...


East Africa - kanga, kikoi
Madagascar - lamba.
Malawi - chitenje.
Mauritius - pareos.
Mozambique - capulana.
Zimbabwe - Zambias.
South India - phanek or lungi.
Maldives, Kerala, - mundu, feyli or neriyathu.
Punjab - Chadra.(from chadar=sheet).
Sinhalese - Sarama
Indonesia - kain sarung
Bali - 'Kamben'.
Malaysia - sarung,
Myanmar - longyi.
Philippines - malong (in Mindanao) or patadyong (in Visayan)
Thailand - pa kao mah for men and a pa toong for women.
Fiji - sulu.
Hawaii - "kikepa."
Papua New Guinea - lap-lap.
Rotuma, - "hạ' fạli"
Samoa - lavalava
Tahiti - pāreu.
Tonga - tupenu.

can't get more international than this :lol:

[mr_karthik]

During 1965, when most number of Tamils were compulsorily migratted from Burma (present Miyanmar), they were brought to India (Madras Harbour) by Indian govt in several ships and kept as refugees (the first time many Tamils heared the word 'agathigaL').

When they want to sell the goods which they brought from Burma, then Congress Govt arranged a place near Madras beach Railway station. Gradually it became a big bazaar which is called as famous "Burma Bazaaar'.

[mr_karthik]

Still in Cehnnai Mannady area people (where more no. of Keezhakarai, Kayalpattinam people are residing) they are using the word 'saaram' instead of kaili or lunghi.

we can easily hear in textile shops "kibs saaram onnu kudunga".

[groucho070]

I think I mentioned here before, the kattam-kattam kaili here is called Kain Pelekat. Kain = cloth. It occured to me only recently that the Pelekat is actually PalakAd, howaboutthat?

[joe]

பாலக்காட்டை இப்படி பலிகடா ஆக்கிட்டாங்களே :)

[groucho070]

:smile: That Malay borrowed heavily from southern Indian languages, especially Tamizh, goes without question. Look at me (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Malay_words_of_Tamil_origin).

[selvakumar]

During 1965, when most number of Tamils were compulsorily migratted from Burma (present Miyanmar), they were brought to India (Madras Harbour) by Indian govt in several ships and kept as refugees (the first time many Tamils heared the word 'agathigaL').

When they want to sell the goods which they brought from Burma, then Congress Govt arranged a place near Madras beach Railway station. Gradually it became a big bazaar which is called as famous "Burma Bazaaar'.

WoW. Didn't know this. Thanks for the information

[selvakumar]

I violently object to stitching vEtti :lol2:

selva, as I see there is no prob in tying vEtti, looks like you have a phobia.
six yards saree uduththittu Oduraanga, aaduraanga, naama vEtti katturatha paththi pEsittirukkOm :)

joe, I tried googling saaram... couldnt find anything. any links or wiki?

AFAIK, Girls don't like sarees that much. They are more comfortable with other dresses. They can run fast when they are not wearing a saree. :)

[SMI]

dig
எனக்கு என்னமோ இந்த 'அம்' விகுதியோட முடியற எல்லாத்தமிழ் வாக்குகள் மேலேயும் 'கொஞ்சம்' 'சந்தேகம்' தான் :-)

சாரம் எதாவது 'சார்' ல இருந்து வந்துருக்கப்போவுது... (மன்-> மனம், ஹ்ருதய் -> இருதயம், சுக் -> சுகம்...)
:lol2:

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Ohh.. indha pagela irukka maththa post ellam shocking thingsaa. Aniyayaththukku nallavaraa irkkinga

As Mr. Karthick says the word saaram is used in maNNady, but I think the usage has come down.

[joe]

but I think the usage has come down.

athukku thaan belt poda solluranga :escape:

[Roshan]

During 1965, when most number of Tamils were compulsorily migratted from Burma (present Miyanmar), they were brought to India (Madras Harbour) by Indian govt in several ships and kept as refugees (the first time many Tamils heared the word 'agathigaL').

Yes this happened after the Junta government took over in 1962.

[SMI]

athukku thaan belt poda solluranga :escape:

:lol: varinji kattikkalaam. usage will go up.

[SMI]

Yes this happened after the Junta government took over in 1962.

If you are talking about India, idhu meyyalumE shocking nyoos thaan

Janata Party came to power in 1977

[joe]

:lol: Avanga Myanmar-a solluranga

[Roshan]

If you are talking about India, idhu meyyalumE shocking nyoos thaan

Janata Party came to power in 1977

:lol: Hope you are not kidding here. I am not talking about Janata party, it's about the junta government of Myanmar. Please read mr_karthik's post once again (hope you are not browsing through mobile ;) )

[ajithfederer]

Thread title :rotfl:

[lydayaxobia493]

lungi/saaram kattina, vayasanavan nu solliduvanga...

if u lik to luk like youth always (like me :-D), one nd only half trouser is best....

[ajithfederer]

+1. Thanks karthik.

WoW. Didn't know this. Thanks for the information

[SMI]

:lol: Hope you are not kidding here. I am not talking about Janata party, it's about the junta government of Myanmar. Please read mr_karthik's post once again (hope you are not browsing through mobile ;) )

Didnt go thru this discussion fully, but his post talks about the Congress Govt which setup the Burma Bazaar. And when you said Junta party I was a bit :confused:


During 1965, when most number of Tamils were compulsorily migratted from Burma (present Miyanmar), they were brought to India (Madras Harbour) by Indian govt in several ships and kept as refugees (the first time many Tamils heared the word 'agathigaL').

When they want to sell the goods which they brought from Burma, then Congress Govt arranged a place near Madras beach Railway station. Gradually it became a big bazaar which is called as famous "Burma Bazaaar'.

Morarji Desai, Charan Singh, Chandrasekhar pOnRa Janata katchi thalaivargaL aaLaaLukku tondify days, tondify days PMaa irundhaanga. vEttiya thaan oru maadhiri kattuvaangannu nenaikkirEn. Appaadaa.. topic kuLLa vandhaachi

[19thmay]

vEtti katuna idupula yedho miss aara maadhriye irukum. Belt illama pOduradhilla. :smokesmirk: vEtti is more comfortable now a days.

[SMI]

vEtti katuna idupula yedho miss aara maadhriye irukum. Belt illama pOduradhilla. :smokesmirk: vEtti is more comfortable now a days.

B'day dress vEtti thaanaa?

comfortable now a days apdinu podhuvaa sonnaa adhu eppadi? theLivaaga viLakkavum

[lydayaxobia493]

comfortable now a days apdinu podhuvaa sonnaa adhu eppadi? theLivaaga viLakkavum

i think 19th means, vaetti potta, veliya funtion porathukkum use aagum...
veetla chummavum pottukkalam.. nalla kaathottama irukkum...rit ?

[Roshan]

vEtti katuna idupula yedho miss aara maadhriye irukum. Belt illama pOduradhilla. :smokesmirk: vEtti is more comfortable now a days.

Did you see my response in 'what is your latest read thread' ? :evil:

[lydayaxobia493]

i remember,in a movie, vivek tells the comfortableness of vetti to a lady...

i remembered sum points..

1. vettiyai thookki apdi utkarntha, vetti alukku aagama irukkum...
2. vetti maditchu kattina, oru gethu looku irukkum...
3. saavu veettula, body thookkittu pogumpothu, aadrathukku vasathiya irukkum..
4. vettiyum pottukkalam.. athukkulla undrayarum pottukkalam...
5. vetti podrathu namma naattu arasiyalvathiyoda pothu sothu..

[19thmay]

SMI - Bday dress summa sokka, pant-u thaan. Rock solradhu thaan reason plus vEtti-la naan vandha ellarum kitta thatta rendu kayyayum serthu koopa try panraangana paathukangalen.

Roshan - I saw your post, paakama irupEna? I need time to write. Office-la mudiyaadhu. Naalaiku Work from home, reply panren. :lol2:

[venkkiram]

I want to go to work place with Lungi . During my teen days there was a habit of thookik kattuthal at mukkal pant hieght! Amma thittikitte irupanga! Figureunga veetu munnaadi appadiyellam kattikitti nadanthu poikittu iruppom! Ippa nenachcha vekkamaa irukku!

[SMI]

SMI - Bday dress summa sokka, pant-u thaan. Rock solradhu thaan reason plus vEtti-la naan vandha ellarum kitta thatta rendu kayyayum serthu koopa try panraangana paathukangalen.

Roshan - I saw your post, paakama irupEna? I need time to write. Office-la mudiyaadhu. Naalaiku Work from home, reply panren. :lol2:

adraa.. adraa..

adhu vandhu, corporatela work panRa payyanukku vEtti ivvaLavu latchanamaanu yOsichuppanga

[lydayaxobia493]

k..poll pls...

vEtti vs kaili.. which is the best...

a) vEtti
b) kaili
c) both...

[PARAMASHIVAN]

my choice would be.. coat-suit like vellaikaran dhorai.. no sherwani.. jippas.. i'm allergic to those kind of dresses...
when others wear these type of dresses as ethnic wear.. i'm - close eyes - mode

Neenga Captain fan ah irunthu kittu ... ipadiya :lol2: :yessir:

[P_R]

:Morarji Desai, Charan Singh, Chandrasekhar pOnRa Janata katchi thalaivargaL aaLaaLukku tondify days, tondify days PMaa irundhaanga. vEttiya thaan oru maadhiri kattuvaangannu nenaikkirEn. :rotfl:

[PARAMASHIVAN]

..that I thought no muslims in Myanmar :)

Almost 5% from Thailand's total poulation are suni muslims.

[Plum]

Regarding Burmese and Chettiar mothers' lands being occupied, is it not unfair to see current suffering of Burmese ordinary folk as "Karma justification" for that?

[VinodKumar's]

I violently object to stitching vEtti :lol2:


This is my house lungi!

Mootuna thaana Lungi :huh:. Illa vera yethuvum proper definition kuduthaacha ?

Inga kooda naa lungi use pannuraen. Oru road trip la kooda drive time la lungi thaan. Break la gas station la erangi lungiyoda kadaikulla pona ellorum oru maari paathaanga. One of my friend have taken a picture wearing lungi in front of white house and Washington monument :lol:.

[selvakumar]

Regarding Burmese and Chettiar mothers' lands being occupied, is it not unfair to see current suffering of Burmese ordinary folk as "Karma justification" for that?
IMO, Astrology is more of a belief that a science. I don't want to go into the Karma theory and whether it makes sense or not. It is up to one's belief and like all forms of that, it need not be fair/relevant to science. You could see the outburst of Indians who lost their property as "nalla anupavinga.. ellam ungappan senja paavamda". You can't expect completely rational thoughts from someone who had lost something. It is more of an emotional thing and you can only feel for them.

In UK, I bought a book that covered cyclone Nargis and the way the military govt handled it. It is quite obvious that like eelam tamils they are also suffering. Somebody should help them.

[rajraj]

Sridhar,
Next time I visit India I will be hosting a 'pattu veshti', 'pattu sattai. and 'visiri madippu angavasthram' lunch/dinner in any restaurant you like. But, you must show up in the specified dress! :lol: Roshan is also invited with 'thanga jarigai kanchi pattu selai' ! :)




vEtti katuna idupula yedho miss aara maadhriye irukum. Belt illama pOduradhilla. :smokesmirk: vEtti is more comfortable now a days.

[Roshan]

Roshan is also invited with 'thanga jarigai kanchi pattu selai' ! :)

No problem, kaanchi pattu has always been my favourite :) BTW, when have you planned your next vacation to India?

[SMI]

Almost 5% from Thailand's total poulation are suni muslims.

Is Thailand a state in Myanmar :confused2: Oru countrya paththi pEsunaa, orE countrya paththi pEsungappaa.

BTW, I wish this topic goes to angavasthiram, parivattam etc

[PARAMASHIVAN]

Is Thailand a state in Myanmar :confused2: Oru countrya paththi pEsunaa, orE countrya paththi pEsungappaa.


Mynamar (burma) and today's Thailand were one country before, during the Chola time, athuku thaan sonEn

[P_R]

Dubai enga irukku?
Erode, thoothukkui pakkam irukku.

[lydayaxobia493]

the thread title has, " loongi,kaili" //

Wt s de diff. betn two.. both r same one na ? :roll:

[PARAMASHIVAN]

Karthik,

Lungi / sarong/ saarm all the same garment material!

[lydayaxobia493]

paramu..

sarong is women & men wear dress whereas lungi & kaili (men wear only) both have same meaning...

[littlemaster1982]

Before editing;


yOv Thailand = Mynamar !

After editing;


Mynamar (burma) and today's Thailand were one country before, during the Chola time, athuku thaan sonEn

:lol2:

[lydayaxobia493]

For more details...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarong

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lungi

[PARAMASHIVAN]

paramu..

sarong is women & men wear dress whereas lungi & kaili (men wear only) both have same meaning...

That may be in India (Southern India) but in SL, and SE Asia it is known as sarong.

[PARAMASHIVAN]

Before editing;



After editing;



:lol2:

yOv, Explaination Oda solla vEndama :poke: :lol2:

[littlemaster1982]

yOv, Explaination Oda solla vEndama :poke: :lol2:

Samalikkadheenga Paramu :lol2: Sammandham illama oru post pannittu, adhai maraikka ivlo kashta padanuma :huh:

[PARAMASHIVAN]

Samalikkadheenga Paramu :lol2: Sammandham illama oru post pannittu, adhai maraikka ivlo kashta padanuma :huh:

:lol2: I did get mixed up with Burma and Thailand, :oops: but etho panni samaalikanumla :lol:

[SMI]

:lol2: I did get mixed up with Burma and Thailand, :oops: but etho panni samaalikanumla :lol:

Tried to sweep things under a vEtti. aanaa avundhiruchchi.. apdinu sollunga

[NOV]

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[VinodKumar's]

Tried to sweep things under a vEtti. aanaa avundhiruchchi.. apdinu sollunga

:rotfl: