City life

[Bala (Karthik)]

Chennai has become worst-pa, no two ways about it. I don't know if other parts of TN have degraded as much, adha andha oor kaarana thaan kekkonum [this might have nothing to do with the movie, chennai pathi pechu vandhuche nu sonnen]

[Cinefan]

Chennai has become worst-pa, no two ways about it. I don't know if other parts of TN have degraded as much, adha andha oor kaarana thaan kekkonum [this might have nothing to do with the movie, chennai pathi pechu vandhuche nu sonnen]


We as a nation have degraded,ithula Chennai enna,Bangalore enna,Kadukkarai enna

[19thmay]

Chennai has become worst-pa, no two ways about it. I don't know if other parts of TN have degraded as much, adha andha oor kaarana thaan kekkonum [this might have nothing to do with the movie, chennai pathi pechu vandhuche nu sonnen]

How Chennai suddenly became worst? City is polluted by inter,multi states of India.

[joe]

Kadukkarai
Is there a place called கடுக்கரை other than one in KK dist?

[Cinefan]

Is there a place called கடுக்கரை other than one in KK dist?

Was referring to the one in Kanyakumari district only.Did some work there and surrounding villages like Azhagiyapandiapuram,Boothapandy,Thidal,Kattuputhur ,Eshanthimangalam,Therisanamcope last August.Had liked the stay and work,flow-le vandutchu. :)

[joe]

Was referring to the one in Kanyakumari district only.Did some work there and surrounding villages like Azhagiyapandiapuram,Boothapandy,Thidal,Kattuputhur ,Eshanthimangalam,Therisanamcope last August.Had liked the stay and work,flow-le vandutchu. :)
I see .. Next time varum pothu sollunga :)

[Cinefan]

I see .. Next time varum pothu sollunga :)


Definitely.You from Nagercoil right?Stayed there-Hotel Parvathi International and did up/down every day to all these villages.

[Siv.S]

// Nice to hear that cinefan.. I had relatives in Therisanamcope.. i used to go there on my school summer holidays, 4 route area is greenery places//

[Cinefan]

Siv,
Yes,nice view,small villages.Felt bad returning to B'lore

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Chennai has become worst-pa, no two ways about it. I don't know if other parts of TN have degraded as much, adha andha oor kaarana thaan kekkonum [this might have nothing to do with the movie, chennai pathi pechu vandhuche nu sonnen]
We as a nation have degraded,ithula Chennai enna,Bangalore enna,Kadukkarai enna

Chennai has some worst minuses which even its own residers dislike to the core. Kattaayam Bangalore is good in such aspects. Bloody there is not even a map outside both Koyambedu and Central Station, to help newcomers. Agreed that is not citizen's fault but govt's. I mean that this bad attitude starts with Govt itself and gets carried over to the last last tamil citizen.

Comparatively i have heard and seen and experienced some more hospitality in bangalore than chennai. Ppl in chennai are not cool. My small exp is, I never knew there is a saravaNa bhavan inside Central itself. I came out and asked few guys is there a Saravana Bhavan nearby. 2 guys gave me the most weird look, i was scared internally. Then i turned on GPS and found out myself that there is one inside itself! Later i realied, those 2 guys were suspecting me :rotfl:

I am not saying chennai is bad, just becos of this. Even if u remove this, i have worst stories.

Regarding this movie portrayal, that mobile-misuse-student, i guess the mentality is everywhere not just in chennai. Hope many ppl know that, outsiders coming to bangalore feel there is more and more sexual-liberty(yes) in bangalore, and try to make use of that.

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Idhula Sakala vera Chennai-vida Bangalore better-nu sollittaru :|

Some aspects....

[littlemaster1982]

Bangalore railway station, Majestic bus stand-la ellam map irukka enna? And I have had some bitter experiences wrt Bangaloreans' hospitality. We can't generalize a whole city based on a few experiences, IMO.

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

LM, it is! Even in Shanti Nagar, Banshankari & Shivaaji Nagar, there are maps! In chennai, there is only one Koyuambedu for both local and outstation bus terminals. But bangalore, both local and outstation terminus are distributed. Majestic is NOT the only one.

[SoftSword]

agree lm... with the way they at times treat the tamil people... starting from how ur neighbours try to dominate u to the way the school/college going local youths arrogant behavior..

i am not generalising here... am jus saying based on the experiences i hav... ofcorse the people u see in multiplexes, highclass restaurants and malls friendly...

[littlemaster1982]

I've never seen a map in Majestic Bus Stand (both moffusil and BMTC) and in the station. Koyambedu CMBT has clear markings about which bus is stationed in which platform.


In chennai, there is only one Koyuambedu for both local and outstation bus terminals. But bangalore, both local and outstation terminus are distributed. Majestic is NOT the only one.

This is never a point of contention.

[venkkiram]

சிறுமிகளை பணத்திற்காக வெளிமாநிலங்களுக்கு விற்பது, வழி தவறும் சிறார்களை பிடித்து பிச்சையெடுக்க அனுப்புவது.. இதில் சென்னை முக்கிய இடம்.

[SoftSword]

first of all, the bus name boards are not friendly for non kannadaas... being a metro i don undetstand why they don even write the names in english... dono if its improved recently...

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

LM, speaking only about city maintenance, which is govt-aspect and not people's, there are some pluses in Bangalore.

Map - there is maps both in Majestic, shanti nagar and Shivaji nagar. I have seen. Majestic / Kempegowda was built long ago itself. Koyambedu is a recent one. Needless to say which one is clean. Bangalore has many big flyovers and most were built some 8 yrs before itself. Dust bin management is better. There are widespread public toilets.

Auto is costly but mostly metered, so if its costly for a specific A to B, then its the same for all autowalas. Atleast some control is there.

Worst things - Bangalore traffic(ppl) are the worst behaved ones on whole country. Both 2 wheelers and Car drivers. Chennai is better in this.

[NOV]

I've been to Chennai three times and Bangalore once.
Have not had enough of Chennai even now but have had enough with Bangalore.
If I were to migrate to India, my choice of residence would be Chennai.

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Once there was an arguement with me and another bangalorean. Once i said some bad things abt bangalore he became too much konthalichified. He lashed out at chennai, and also even about North Indians who come to Bangalore and don't respect locals at all. I said, its always that one shud see mistakes without comparisions. and i said, waht if i brought another kannada guy and made him say what i said. He cannot blame that guy na.

[littlemaster1982]

Sakala, I agree that Bangalore is generally cleaner than Chennai. But your earlier post was in a different tone and sounded like you were blaming Chennai for some silly reasons. We've digressed a lot. So let's leave it here.

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

All bus have normal Numbers now. And Bangalore is ahead and one of the 1st in SOuth India, to use many Volvos.

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Sakala, I agree that Bangalore is generally cleaner than Chennai. But your earlier post was in a different tone and sounded like you were blaming Chennai for some silly reasons. We've digressed a lot. So let's leave it here.

Regarding people culture, yes. still visitors and even insiders find chennai ppl rude. Not everybody, but autowalas etc

[SoftSword]

not numbers... i mean the display of destination names for the passengers to identify... if its in english too now, then thats good... i am speaking abt the normal city buses which majority of the people use... not everyone can afford volvos...

[SoftSword]

I've been to Chennai three times and Bangalore once.
Have not had enough of Chennai even now but have had enough with Bangalore.
If I were to migrate to India, my choice of residence would be Chennai.

:notworthy:

[Bala (Karthik)]

Chennai la irukkalaam, avvalodhaan (say it like Girish Karnad says "avaaallaam irukka, avvalodhaan" in Hey Ram), aanaa Naaladi nadandhu poga oL-hour aagum

[sathya_1979]

Just few weeks ago I read a news that a group of students got caught as they watched porn in their mobiles. It happened in Tirunelveli. Last year at Thirumangalam a boy [aged 7] was killed by group of homosexual teens [all are below 16]. I read at least one child rape a day in the newspaper which is not happening in Chennai.
I can list many, third rated crimes are happening all over Tamil Nadu. It is funny that these directors are building as if Chennai is the most evil place in Tamil Nadu and the rest of the place are as equal to heaven.
:clap: appadi avLO mOsamaana oorunaa, edhukku inga varaNum? avanga avanga oorulayE pozhaichukka vENdiyadhudhaanE? illai vEra nalla oorla pOi pozhaichukkalaamE? :think:

[sathya_1979]

சிறுமிகளை பணத்திற்காக வெளிமாநிலங்களுக்கு விற்பது, வழி தவறும் சிறார்களை பிடித்து பிச்சையெடுக்க அனுப்புவது.. இதில் சென்னை முக்கிய இடம்.
details pls.....

[sathya_1979]

Oh no! Iyaam falling into trap. escape :yessir:

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

not numbers... i mean the display of destination names for the passengers to identify... if its in english too now, then thats good... i am speaking abt the normal city buses which majority of the people use... not everyone can afford volvos...

That is not affecting anyone, though agree, chennai buses are superb efficient in clearly mentioning the source and dest. Also, the Volvo/Cusion/NonAC/WhiteBoard/Yellowboard classification is even present in chennai! And also Buses are very well connected to almost all areas. Thatswhy most ppl take buses in chennai and also thats the same very reason there are quite less takers of Auto, in chennai. And of course becos of that only auto walas charge excess. but not everyone is interested in buses and also not everyone can afford the aniyaaya charges of auto.

Regular bus commuters in bangalore depend upon Bus numbers and new comers always has to ask others if this bus goes there. Thats a thing bangalore BMTC needs to correct. Volvos display areas properly.

And, in chennai bus boards, everything is only in engligh?!? No tamil?!??!

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

சிறுமிகளை பணத்திற்காக வெளிமாநிலங்களுக்கு விற்பது, வழி தவறும் சிறார்களை பிடித்து பிச்சையெடுக்க அனுப்புவது.. இதில் சென்னை முக்கிய இடம்.

But bangalore, outside pichakaars volunteerly come and settle in bangalore! considering the oppurtunities :lol: i see thirunangais mostly from TN, torturing ppls in bangalore signals.

[littlemaster1982]

And, in chennai bus boards, everything is only in engligh?!? No tamil?!??!

Chennai buses have boards in both Tamil & English unlike narrow minded BMTC.

[sathya_1979]

banglore traffic - enuf said :lol2:

[sathya_1979]

But bangalore, outside pichakaars volunteerly come and settle in bangalore! considering the oppurtunities :lol:
:rotfl: :rotfl3:

[Cinefan]

Dig and a long one at that.

sakala,
Too much support to B'lore-ah :)

Ok,as a kannadiga who has lived in Chennai(though very long back)and who keeps visiting chennai atleast once every couple of years,I find both cities have their pro's and con's.

B'lore is probably cleaner but chennai is not as bad as it was.Food is extremely costly in chennai-no darshini's and bakeries(a good business idea to start a chain).Chennai has it's T Nagar which nothing(even the lanes of commercial street)in bangalore can match.

Chennai is very hot but b'lore is fast catching up,Chennai has a vibrant culture which b'lore can never replicate(becos majority of citizens here are immigrants and so no chance a culture could develop).

B'lore is more cosmopolitan and favours outsiders.

SS,even in Chennai bus boards are in Tamil only.

Auto in Chennai is day light robbery but bus service is efficient .B'lore -Auto is metered but still very costly and is catching up on the bus service,Transport minister Ashok has done some good work.

B'lore is supposed to be progressive and Chennai conservative(have no idea on this,I quit the city 22 years back).

Personally,would like to live in Chennai,the weather is the only deterrent.Even last week when I was there,a/c illama oru nimisham irukka mudiyala.

[Cinefan]

LM,
Have no idea on english bus boards in Chennai.Did not observe when I was there last week.

sathya,

Traffic is the same boss in both cities,the perils of a growing city.And whereever there is bad traffic,discipline takes a hit.

[littlemaster1982]

SS,even in Chennai bus boards are in Tamil only.

Are you sure, Cinefan? I'm yet to come across a bus with only Tamil boards. All the buses have destination written in both English and Tamil. A good, balanced post otherwise :thumbsup:

[Bala (Karthik)]

Cinefan :thumbsup:

Sathya
Traffic, congestion-laam Chennai la remba daasthi aiduchungale.....

[SoftSword]

cf...
there maybe exceptions but mostly its written in english as well... as lm who i living in chennai now says... namma aalunga dhaan englishla peru eludhuradhu fashionu nenakkiravanga aachae...

as u said... chennai has become expensive rentwise now... u can get a 2bhk in koramangala for 10k... but not in besant nagar for the same price...

but saappaattukku ellaam chennai dhaan...

[littlemaster1982]

Got to agree, it's not the same Chennai I used to love 4-5 years back :cry:

[Cinefan]

SS,LM-everybody feels the same about the cities they have lived in.That's why I said in an earlier post, as a nation we have degraded.

[SoftSword]

master... topicaye maathitingalae.... i think the discussion started abt how bad chennai is shown in movies... adhayum vettiteenga pola...

[littlemaster1982]

Yet to watch the movie.

+1 on portraying Chennai as a worst city. Its happening for a while, right from Vivek jokes [Remember Run?], Eesan kind of movies [ Oora sir idhu? ], even in songs [ Saamy - Tirunelveli song, while praising other parts of TN for Chennai, "Chennaila ennada thanni konjam kooda illada!].

75% of the Chennai citizens are not core madrasis. Vera oorula irundhu vandhu pozhaikka vandhuttu, ooru nalla illanu sonna enna artham. Its you TN ppl spoiled this city.


Just few weeks ago I read a news that a group of students got caught as they watched porn in their mobiles. It happened in Tirunelveli. Last year at Thirumangalam a boy [aged 7] was killed by group of homosexual teens [all are below 16]. I read at least one child rape a day in the newspaper which is not happening in Chennai.
I can list many, third rated crimes are happening all over Tamil Nadu. It is funny that these directors are building as if Chennai is the most evil place in Tamil Nadu and the rest of the place are as equal to heaven.

From VE thread, some valid posts by Sridhar.

[littlemaster1982]

master... topicaye maathitingalae.... i think the discussion started abt how bad chennai is shown in movies... adhayum vettiteenga pola...

Added them now.

[SoftSword]

okay okay...

nobody from mumbai to give a perspective?

[wizzy]

Bangalore rockzz :thumbsup:..Sennai is great for sambhar munching retired veggie peeps who have no other place to go...struggling to think of a reason why one would opt for Sennai over Bangalore.. Madras>>Sennai..adhu oru kaalam :neutral:

[SoftSword]

maybe with respect to pubs, figures and whether... but nativitynu onnu irukkillayaa?

[kid-glove]

End of the day, if I'm being honest, to put it bluntly, Sennai is fast becoming redundantly pointless city.

Bandgalore ain't that good to be called as 'rocks'.

[Cinefan]

Madras>>Sennai..adhu oru kaalam :neutral:

I know that kaalam only ya.Have too many good memories of that time.Natural that I want to go back to that place.Of course,will be disappointed if things have changed drastically on the negative side.

[littlemaster1982]

Bangalore rockzz :thumbsup:..Sennai is great for sambhar munching retired veggie peeps who have no other place to go...struggling to think of a reason why one would opt for Sennai over Bangalore.. Madras>>Sennai..adhu oru kaalam :neutral:

Innaila irundhu neenga enakku edhiri :twisted: Why do you prefer Bangalore to Chennai :roll:

[wizzy]

nativity vechi padam venna edukalam :lol: December season mattum vanthutu pogalam..seriously this coming from a Sennai/Madrasvasi who spent all his life in Madras/Sennai..even Pune/Kolkatta seems viable than Sennai

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Cinefan, you can never expect a T.Nagar (and that too Pondybazzaar which had great platform shops changing stuff every 2 months in non IT days itself)

but what to do with shopping? And for Bangalore, Jayanagar 4th block? and other areas may be slowly catching up. Also, I find petty shops and small supermarkets widely spread in bangalore. But chennai not that case. Maybe the real estate cost. Chennai is still a conservative city and so all variety of foods available. Bangalore too picking up.

PG - bangalore is unbeatable. both facilities and availability. chennai bachelors are kind of paavam, in this aspect

[SoftSword]

ok lets all move to and develop the next grade cities... i hav always wanted to work in coimbatore...

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Innaila irundhu neenga enakku edhiri :twisted: Why do you prefer Bangalore to Chennai :roll:

Me personally always have a desire to live a great life in chennai. May be after few years i may move. Actually i love to. But sennaila uLLa kuraigALai, niyaayamaana kuraigaLai yaar sonnaalum kettuppen, kovappada maatten. LM, nothing wrong in loving our sennai but we have to agree its pitfalls illayaa?!? Only that is going to improve our city na?!?

This JJ put scene, by rounding Chennai in helicopter and found hard-to-find fact that CHennai is filled with waste dumps and totally Un clean. Madam, "engaLai kaarparesan eleksan la jeyikka vechirunga. chenniaya kooti thodaikkurom" but after months of capturing corporation, this sadai duraisamy dping nothing to keep it clean. Agree, that it has to start with ppl, but there is also a big role for Corporation which it is failing for years

[ajithfederer]

Adhu onnu urupadiya irukku adhai konjam vidunga. On the topic, I don't like Sennai. And also Never understood the fact why it's citizens rate it so higher!!!.

ok lets all move to and develop the next grade cities... i hav always wanted to work in coimbatore...

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Antha oorai ellaam adichikka mudiyaathungov!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHtLLxXUTfI

Sennai aLavukku cost of living! actually some things are costlier than Bangalore!

[littlemaster1982]

LM, nothing wrong in loving our sennai but we have to agree its pitfalls illayaa?!? Only that is going to improve our city na?!?

For all its negatives, I still prefer Chennai to Bangalore. Matthapadi Chennai-la kuraiyae illainu ellam solla matten :)

[kid-glove]

Maybe Feddy, you have no idea of what Madras used to look like, eh?

[littlemaster1982]

PG - bangalore is unbeatable. both facilities and availability. chennai bachelors are kind of paavam, in this aspect

Lot of PGs have mushroomed in IT corridor. Never stayed in one, so no idea how it compares to Bangalore PGs. Fridge, washing machine ellam irukkunnu vilambaram pandraanga :?

[littlemaster1982]

nativity vechi padam venna edukalam :lol: December season mattum vanthutu pogalam..seriously this coming from a Sennai/Madrasvasi who spent all his life in Madras/Sennai..even Pune/Kolkatta seems viable than Sennai

I would have been surprised to hear this few years back, but now, I kinda understand where you are coming from.

[ajithfederer]

Hey I like Madras. I still call your team as Madras(May be i am the only guy to do so). Was there once during the 90's and still have good memories from it. But post 2000 it's all gone down the drain. Too much immigration might be a factor, ain't it?.

[SoftSword]

Adhu onnu urupadiya irukku adhai konjam vidunga. On the topic, I don't like Sennai. And also Never understood the fact why it's citizens rate it so higher!!!.

idhu en ooru... idhukku naan nalladhu seyyaamq vida maaten....

how long yuvaar in cbe...

[wizzy]

Coimbatore with black thunder et al rockzz too :2thumbsup:

[kid-glove]

Coimbatore rockz, now I'm game.

[kid-glove]

Problem is even Coimbatore is getting congested and rotten every day. Might as well go into the future kicking and screaming as Feeyaar would put it.

[littlemaster1982]

Hey I like Madras. I still call your team as Madras(May be i am the only guy to do so). Was there once during the 90's and still have good memories from it. But post 2000 it's all gone down the drain. Too much immigration might be a factor, ain't it?.

Guess so. Enga paarthalum Andhra mess :twisted: Also, Bangaloreans used to say this too. Oralavu adhula unmaiyum irukku.

[kid-glove]

Btw wizzy, who is that idiot who prefers to live in Colgatta than Chennai?

[SoftSword]

cbe also doesn enjoy a pleasant weather anymore...

[ajithfederer]

Rotten - No sir, Congested - yes.

Problem is even Coimbatore is getting congested and rotten every day. Might as well go into the future kicking and screaming as Feeyaar would put it.

[wizzy]

K-G for my visits it evokes old Madras charm...may be the red buildings :lol: Indian coffee house ftw..

[kid-glove]

Isn't rotten the consequence of congestion?

[ajithfederer]

Meanwhile Real estate prices in CBE are :omg: now. Konja naal oorula illa ellam sema rate aagi pochunngov.

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Ok, the Govt is still sleeping, about keeping chennai clean. But some youths are taking initiatives. How many of you guys know http://www.kuppathotti.com ??

http://www.pluggd.in/kuppathotti-online-garbage-collector-297/

[littlemaster1982]

Meanwhile Real estate prices in CBE are :omg: now. Konja naal oorula illa ellam sema rate aagi pochunngov.

This deserves a separate topic. IMO, this is the root cause of all evils :evil:

[ajithfederer]

KG Illeenga konjam oralavukku oorai sutthama innum vechirukaangannu solla vandhen. No of vehicles, farm plots converted to real estate plots in and around the city have grown like fungus.

[kid-glove]

Have anyone seen the Jia Zhangke film titled 'City Life'.

[kid-glove]

Or rather 'Still Life'. Alternatively titled '24 City'. Hence the confusion. It's an incredibly moving film..

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

See yaar, its like this. If chennai or bangalore which are state capitals and sennai a Metro, they getting congested and rotten, atleast its understandable. But if coimb which is not a both, getting rotten and congested means, its like Avvaiyaar says, "This athiyamaan always goes for war and so his weapons are too used and damaged"

Kovai rocks yaar!

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

This deserves a separate topic. IMO, this is the root cause of all evils :evil:

Yes! And I wonder why CHennai (new)apartment costs too high than even Bangalore! Infact, bangalore, u get decently furnished whereas Chennai they give a blank house.

[kid-glove]

KG Illeenga konjam oralavukku oorai sutthama innum vechirukaangannu solla vandhen. No of vehicles, farm plots converted to real estate plots in and around the city have grown like fungus.


That might be true. But I suppose 'development' is the danger word. The word 'Developing area' that's ever so crudely used for real estate business would eventually lead to corrosion of City's identity itself.

[SoftSword]

shocked to know the mess which sold one meal for 15 rs 8 yrs back is selling it for 40 rs now... oru veettu dhosai 10 rs... in cbe...

[kid-glove]

See yaar, its like this. If chennai or bangalore which are state capitals and sennai a Metro, they getting congested and rotten, atleast its understandable. But if coimb which is not a both, getting rotten and congested means, its like Avvaiyaar says, "This athiyamaan always goes for war and so his weapons are too used and damaged"

Kovai rocks yaar!
Did you just say 'yaar!'

Uvvakkkk

[kid-glove]

I suppose that's what Blore does to people, it's all 'yaar' these days.

[wizzy]

Did you just say 'yaar!'

Uvvakkkk

:rotfl3: yaaro

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

ada chummaa oru flow la vanthuttu! Its not a banned term!

[joe]

தமிழ்நாட்டுல ஓரளவு கல்வி கற்ற குடும்பங்களிலிருந்து குறைந்தது ஒருவராவது சென்னையில் குடியிருக்கிறார்கள் ..மதுரை , திருச்சி , நெல்லை ,சேலம் போன்ற இரண்டாம் நிலை நகரங்கள் அனைத்து துறையிலும் வளர்ச்சி காணும் வரை சென்னையில் நிலமை இன்னும் மோசமாகும் ..அரசுகள் அதை குறித்து யோசிப்பதாகவும் தெரியவில்லை . All roads lead to rome மாதிரி தமிழகத்தின் அனைத்து சாலைகளும் சென்னையை நோக்கியே நீழுகின்றன ..நகர்வு எப்போது சென்னை நோக்கியே இருக்கிறது .

[SoftSword]

adhanaala dhaanae thalainagaram...
adhu ennakkum maaraadhu... innum mosamaadhaan pogum.. but sariyaa sonninga...

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

ஆட்டோ, ஷேர் ஆட்டோ, பஸ், ரயில், பறக்கும் ரயில், இப்போது மோனோ ரயில் வேறு. அனைத்தும் சென்னையிலேயே கொட்டப்படுவது அராஜகமானது. மற்ற நகரங்களையும் கவனிக்க வேண்டும்.

share auto - how did i forget this?!? superb concept. few months back, in vijay TV that college serial, one guy will tell "machaan, nowadays software engineers kooda share autola poraanga daa, onnum thappu illai" trying to drive the point. superb!

No share autos in bangalore

[ajithfederer]

I am still saddened to see no autos in any city use meter's. System-ae engayum kedayadhu, appidi irundhalum velai seyyaradhe kedayadhu.

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Dudes with Android phone can use Auto / GPS apps and run a meter, to know the real cost!

[wizzy]

real cost'a paarthutu avanga ketadha kodukka vendyathu thaen :-) the usual sapakattu for auto robbery in Sennai seems that most of these are rented out by settus/police benamis charging exorbitant interest rates.

[joe]

If I were to migrate to India, my choice of residence would be Chennai.
செல்லாது ..செல்லாது ..நீர் ஒரு தமிழன்

[SoftSword]

atleast chennai has electric train as an alternate.. electric train travel is fun...

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

real cost'a paarthutu avanga ketadha kodukka vendyathu thaen :-) the usual sapakattu for auto robbery in Sennai seems that most of these are rented out by settus/police benamis charging exorbitant interest rates.

athukku, if situation permits, better choose share auto. Using public service transport is equivalent to doing a great service to environment.

[joe]

ஒட்டு மொத்த தென்னிந்தியர்களையுமே இன்று வரை மதராசி-ன்னு சொல்லுறாங்கண்ணா காலங்காலமாக இந்த நகரம் எதையெல்லாம் தாங்கியிருக்கிறது என்பதையும் பார்க்கணும் .

[venkkiram]

எங்கேயோ ஆரம்பித்த விவாதம் இப்போ எதை நோக்கியோ போய்க்கொண்டிருக்கிறது. நான் இப்போ வேடிக்கை மட்டும் பார்க்கலாம்னு இருக்கேன்.

[app_engine]

I am still saddened to see no autos in any city use meter's. System-ae engayum kedayadhu, appidi irundhalum velai seyyaradhe kedayadhu.

Please visit Kozhikkode for a pleasant surprise...(It was great those days, exemplary, with drivers even giving back chillaRaikkAsu - I've verified current status too only a couple of days back, with a guy who is visiting here - that it's pretty much the same even now)!

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Heard that once, Most autos ran in the city belonged to Stalin. Later, they where 'given free' to Mandhiris, and then to MLAs and now to police. As the profit it give may be getting less in long term, and other bigger options like Real Estate, spectrum etc were available for Money making :lol:

[app_engine]

BTW, Kozhikkode, which became India's first 'litter-free-city' a few years back, still seems to be pretty good on that count too.

[SoftSword]

btw, whats the reason that cochin is not much famous for employment as compared to ch, blr or hyd?

[wizzy]

Sennai has all the makings to become Florida of India..Warm weather/cheaper health care just need some tax cuts.

[joe]

Kerala-la entha city-la employement irukku , except fishing ?

[joe]

Average one male from each family from my village are in Cochin for fishing.

[SoftSword]

not with the natural resources i mean... for example, the it companies strarting a branch thr... automobile companies... i know there are... but comparitively less...

[joe]

for example, the it companies strarting a branch thr... automobile companies... i know there are... but comparitively less...
enna ithu chinna kozhanthaikkume theriyume ..communist culture thaan kaaraNanmnnu ..Weekly strike ..monthly Harthaal ..Company izahuthu moodittu poga vendiyathu thaan.

[SoftSword]

kerala communist majornu theriyum... but din relate that to this... pretty naive i agree... not able to opine if thats good or bad for them...

[app_engine]

Reg. real-estate-prices, I heard a theory from a reasonably-well-informed-business-man.

During the previous decades, tax-cheated-corrupt-etc-black money was stashed away in tax havens abroad ("swiss banks").

There were many hassles with that - can't use much in one's life time, danger of losing all money if code is lost, "finger-print-iris-scan" kind of newer measures make sure next-gen cannot access it etc.

So, the new trend is like this :
step 1 : Take the black money as before to tax havens
step 2 : bring it into India ("white") as FDI from letter pad company to letter pad company
step 3: invest in real estate ("greenfield properties" :lol:)

vilai En ERadhu?

[joe]

not able to opine if thats good or bad for them...
இதுல என்ன சந்தேகம் .Bad தான் ..உலகத்துல எங்க போனாலும் மலையாளிய பாக்கலாம்ணா காரனம் என்ன ..உள்ளூருல வேலை வாய்ப்புகள் இல்லாததால் மலையாளிகள் உலகமெங்கும் சென்று கொட்டும் அன்னிய பணத்தில் தான் கேரளாவே இயங்கிக் கொண்டிருக்கிறது ..அதிலும் வளைகுடா நாட்டிலுள்ள மலையாளிகள் திரும்பி ஊருக்கு போங்க-ன்னு அனுப்பி வைக்கப்பட்டால் (ஒரு பேச்சுக்கு) கேரளாவே ஸ்தம்பிக்கும்.

[SoftSword]

america kaaranukku olachu kotromenra pointla sonen... maybe they can feel better for not doing that...

[directhit]

Auto is costly but mostly metered, so if its costly for a specific A to B, then its the same for all autowalas. Atleast some control is there. have to agree after having lived in Bangalore for a few years. Have personally had experience of Cops helping us get Autos late at night and also the price is ok (inspite of the ridiculous 1 1/2 times meter, twice the meter rules). Chennai la I invariably get into fights with every other auto I get into :banghead: doesnt help that majority of em are owned by thoppai maamas...

[directhit]

Kerala-la entha city-la employement irukku , except fishing ? Kochi is supposedly growing with IT Parks and some companies setting up offices, but yes its still not known to be a go-to location for Employment

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Even Udipi in Karnataka has few IT establishments.

[VinodKumar's]

Adhu onnu urupadiya irukku adhai konjam vidunga. On the topic, I don't like Sennai. And also Never understood the fact why it's citizens rate it so higher!!!.

:exactly:.

[HonestRaj]

i hav always wanted to work in coimbatore...

nalla vAipukkaga kAthuttu irukken...

coimbatore'la vElai senjuttu irundha varaikkum bangalore, chennai ellam pOna career growth irukkum... nalla sambadhikkalamnu yosichuttu iruppen..

oru 10 aayiram 20 aayirathukku aasaipattu vandhu niraiya sandhosangalai parikudutha madhiri irukku..

inge vandhadhukkapuram outside world eppadi irukkumnu oru experience kedachurukku enbadhu mattum unmai

[Plum]

agree lm... with the way they at times treat the tamil people... starting from how ur neighbours try to dominate u to the way the school/college going local youths arrogant behavior..

i am not generalising here... am jus saying based on the experiences i hav... ofcorse the people u see in multiplexes, highclass restaurants and malls friendly...

adhellAm andha andha oorukku pORachE apdiyE avanga jOdhila aikyam AgidaNum. namm tamizhangaRa nenaippE avaingaLukku vara koodAdhu. Gummidipoondi border thAndi namma oorula kaaladi vechavuNE, "indhi ozhiga"" apdinnu ghOsham pOdaNum. pozhaikka theriyAdha puLLaingappA!


North Indians who come to Bangalore and don't respect locals at all
avanga endha oorukku vandhu locals-ai madhichirukKAnga?

[ajithfederer]

Tier- 2 tier-3 cities pathi yaaravadhu therinjavanga sonna nalla irukkum. Madurai/Salem/ Trichy(Nerd!!!) etc etc/

[HonestRaj]

earning money'ngra meaning'la partha ange coimbatore'laye nalla sambadhikkiravanga ellam irukkanga...

10 aavadhu kooda pass pannadha cousin annan oruthar.. ~ 38, 39 yrs... pala kOdi ruva sambadhichuttar.. no politics.. just business...
rombha sameebathula ~ 2 crores'ku private bus with route vangirukkarnu kelvipatten... 1 crore'aye nan en vazhnaalla parppananu doubt'ah irukku

[HonestRaj]

No share autos in bangalore

share cabs are available.. 10 rubees or 15 rubees.. sila samayam rubees kudukkamaye travel pannalam

[Plum]

It was great those days, exemplary, with drivers even giving back chillaRaikkAsu - I've verified current status too only a couple of days back, with a guy who is visiting here - that it's pretty much the same even

Someone asked about Mumbai - mumbai-la innum this holds true. Auto ennanga. Andheri to Dadar Taxi 130 Rs-nga. Chennai-la oru 300-400 easyA kEppAnga auto-layE andha distanceku

[VinodKumar's]

Stan, I had been to Cbe, Erode and Salem during my vacation. Spent a week in erode and I did not find any big change. Erode was same as how it was three years before. I was in salem just for one day but when you see it from outside there is no big change.

CBE has changed little bit. Konjam western kalai vara maari theriyuthu :shaking:. The new malls/multiplexes/IT companies oora keduthuruvaanga pola.

Enga ooru Namakkal ah paathu shock aagitaen. oru kalla kooda nevuthi vaikala 10 varushama :lol:

First rendu naal channai ya paathu aadi poiyitaen. Naa anga irunthu kelambunahta vida traffic 4 madangu aagiruchu. Panathuku mathipillama poirunthathu. Car lam cycle maari use pannanga.

[VinodKumar's]

nalla vAipukkaga kAthuttu irukken...

coimbatore'la vElai senjuttu irundha varaikkum bangalore, chennai ellam pOna career growth irukkum... nalla sambadhikkalamnu yosichuttu iruppen..

oru 10 aayiram 20 aayirathukku aasaipattu vandhu niraiya sandhosangalai parikudutha madhiri irukku..

inge vandhadhukkapuram outside world eppadi irukkumnu oru experience kedachurukku enbadhu mattum unmai

For sure you will have more and better opportunities in Chennai and Bangalore.

[HonestRaj]

CBE has changed little bit. Konjam western kalai vara maari theriyuthu :shaking:. The new malls/multiplexes/IT companies oora keduthuruvaanga pola.



enakkum andha bayamthan...

aLava oru 4 company mattum irukkanum.. ennai madhiri uLLoor karanukku mattum velai kudukkanumnu oru suyanalam irukku.. aana aandavan parunga.. ellathukkum sariya ezhudhiruppan... enakku ange velai vaaipugal illai.. :(

[HonestRaj]

For sure you will have more and better opportunities in Chennai and Bangalore.

oru stage thandiyachunna.. enna periya career enna periya growth'nu thona aarambichurum...

[VinodKumar's]

One more thing

I attended 3 of my friends marriage during my vacation .. 1 in Erode , 1 in thirupur and third one in Chennai.Erode and Tripur kalyanamgal thaan kalyanathuku pona maari irunthuchu. Varverpu , gavanipunu , sadangugal , sambirathayaangal nu mandabam kalai katti irunthchu. Chennai la nadantha kalyanathula (reception) oru parantha vetta velila oru stage antha stage la mappilaiyum ponnum avanga kudumbathaar ... athae medaila side la oru orchestra kootam latest songs paadikitu irunthaanga ... stage ku keezha queue ... yethukunu keta manamakkal la vahthi gift kudukurathukaam ... reception ku vantha yaarum stage ku munnadi poturuntha seat la lam utkaaravae illa ... vanthaanga queue la ninnanga gift kuduthaanga sapda ponaanga kelambitaanga ... Naangalum athae thaan panna vendi irunthuchu .... naama mattum seat la poi utkanaatha komali aakiruvaangalae ... the fun we had with our mappilai frnds in erode and thirupur were completely missing in case of chennai frnd marraige. Velila varapa oru kadamai mudinja maari thaan irunthuchae thavira santhosam illa.

[VinodKumar's]

oru stage thandiyachunna.. enna periya career enna periya growth'nu thona aarambichurum...

That's the time when you start missing your friends. Ellorukum kalayanam aagirucha ???

[VinodKumar's]

enakkum andha bayamthan...

aLava oru 4 company mattum irukkanum.. ennai madhiri uLLoor karanukku mattum velai kudukkanumnu oru suyanalam irukku.. aana aandavan parunga.. ellathukkum sariya ezhudhiruppan... enakku ange velai vaaipugal illai.. :(

Naa ooruku pona udanae naga polamnu thaan plan la irukaen. Appdiyae peelamedu side la en vazhkai ya otiralamnu oru idea irruku. Paapom.

[HonestRaj]

That's the time when you start missing your friends. Ellorukum kalayanam aagirucha ???

college mates'nu partha some 5 people left..
work friends'nu partha... kooda irundha pala peru ondi kattaingathan... 5 left [almost everyone]
school friend.. my close friend.. 1 left..
& myself....

[HonestRaj]

One more thing

I attended 3 of my friends marriage during my vacation .. 1 in Erode , 1 in thirupur and third one in Chennai.Erode and Tripur kalyanamgal

heard that marriages in Thirppur are richer than other surrounding towns / cities.. they spend a lot

[app_engine]

Someone asked about Mumbai - mumbai-la innum this holds true. Auto ennanga. Andheri to Dadar Taxi 130 Rs-nga. Chennai-la oru 300-400 easyA kEppAnga auto-layE andha distanceku

20 years back the meter system in Calcutta (now Kolkota) was quite funny. I'm not sure whether such meters were universal there but most were like that.

They didn't charge based on distance but based on "time taken" :lol: In other words, the taxi meter didn't need any connection to the odometer, it was a simple clock calibrated to show time in Rs :-)

The traffic was so bad there that you won't know how much will be the bill - it depended on how fast / slow the car could go (and not entirely dependent on distance) :-)

[VinodKumar's]

heard that marriages in Thirppur are richer than other surrounding towns / cities.. they spend a lot

Illa ithu middle class marriage thaan but even I heard about that. Thiruppur la rich people nu theriyaatha rich people athigam so antha maari thaan nadakum.

[Nerd]

Tier- 2 tier-3 cities pathi yaaravadhu therinjavanga sonna nalla irukkum. Madurai/Salem/ Trichy(Nerd!!!) etc etc/

Trichy-la periya changes illai - economy wise. The city is very conservative anyway. But traffic adhigam aayiduchu, goods expensive etc., but no comparison to big cities and the changes are not to ridiculous levels.

+1 on everything 'bad' about Chennai. I have visited Chennai so many times and have *lived* there a couple of times ( < 6 months both times). And I used to like Chennai when I was there on 2004 for about 5 months. But recent trips-la so many bad incidents. SennaiyOda ellai dhaan neeNdukittE pOguthu, oru kaalaththula pottal kaadaa iruntha idamellaam ippO velaiyai kEttaal :shock: I am all for distribution, I mean start new initiatives in other cities too. That will boost our economy. But Chennai-la sila pala high end malls / pubs ellaam super.

Kovai - best 'people'. I havent been there a lot of times but even the salesmen/auto drivers there are extremely courteous. Chennai-la ellaam madhikkavE maattanuva.. :twisted:

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

+1 on everything 'bad' about Chennai. I have visited Chennai so many times and have *lived* there a couple of times ( < 6 months both times). And I used to like Chennai when I was there on 2004 for about 5 months. But recent trips-la so many bad incidents.

Chennai-la ellaam madhikkavE maattanuva.. :twisted:

ஐயா உங்களுக்கு கோடி புண்ணியம். சில பேருக்கு, சென்னை பத்தி தப்பா சொன்னாலே(நிஜத்தை தான் சொல்றோம்) பத்திகிட்டு வரும்! அவங்களுக்கும் சரி உங்களுக்கும் சரி எனக்கும் சரி சென்னை மேல ஒரு இது இருக்குறது உன்மைதானே! அக்கறைல தானே சொல்றோம், அதுவும் பெங்களூரை கம்பேர் பண்ணி சென்னையை தப்பா சொல்லிட்டா போதும்! இவ்ளோ குறுகிய மனப்பான்மையோட இருந்தா, கஷ்டம்!

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/SRBJZ6T

Attend this Poll against Chennai auto fare menace. It has only 4 questions

1. Auto fares in chennai have to be controlled?
2. Who do you think is responsible for the high auto fares in chennai?
3. Should we have "AUTO BOYCOTT" day?
4. Do you think effective Police control can curb the auto fare menace in chennai?

[Bala (Karthik)]

Wizzy :thumbsup:

Cinefan
Appadi paatha world-e worst airuchu, especially India, especially Chennai. Engayum "safety" (safety na safety illa) illa evanukkum safety illa. Call taxis are cheaper than autos. It's as ridiculous as that

Indian real estate prices :huh: My brother had been to Kovai recently. Residential area-ngara concept innum irukku nu sonnaan. Thank god. Might go there to visit our kula dheivam koyil.

[SoftSword]

residential area'laam bangalorela kooda irukkae...
aana angayum yaanai velai kudhirai velai dhaan...
eppo india vareenga?

[P_R]

Engayum "safety" (safety na safety illa) illa evanukkum safety illa. :lol:

Thread title reminds me of Vivek's line in Budget Padmanaban: naan city brought-up :lol2:

solradhukku karuththu oNNu illai. vEdikkai pAkkurEn. kamaan.

[Bala (Karthik)]

residential area'laam bangalorela kooda irukkae...
aana angayum yaanai velai kudhirai velai dhaan...
eppo india vareenga?

Whitefield/Kundalahalli, BSK/Jayanagar madhiri oru area kooda innaikku porulaadharathukku Chennai la undo? Illa!
The biggest blow is i can't recognize the areas i grew up in, roamed around or collected from. Theruvula ninna oru belonging-e illa. Jana koottam appadiye thallittu poidra feeling. Mumbai la ellaam enna sombal, sogam irundhaalum theruvula kaaleduthu vecha ella poirum, jivvu nu oru jeevan varum. (Bangalore is extremely depressing-ngaradhu vera vishayam). At least there are pockets in Bangalore where you have space for yourself and it feels like a residence.
And the house rents for the quality of the apartments is apalling in Chennai. Bangalore la irukka koodiya condominium madhiri Chennai la kedaiyaadhu, appadiye irundhaalum araajaga rent.
Chennai-vaasiya irukkumbodhellaam veyyil oru porutte illa. Modhalla veliyoorukku velaikkaaga vaazhndhappa'laam Chennai-a bayangarama defend pannuven. The decline started in the late 2000's (2005/6 was one of the best periods for me so i'm discounting that. One important reason was my work place was within the city).
And this OMR thing is BS. Ellaa office-um anga dhaan irukku. Where does one stay? City-la irundhaa prachanai, veliya ponaalum prachanai. This is the main reason why Bangalore worked. Of course, it's all down to my specific circumstances and how it affects me.


eppo india vareenga?
June to July first week India la (2 weeks official + 3 weeks leave).

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Bangalore la, some old areas like Hanumantha Nagar etc, athe conservativeness irukku! BTM Jayanagar ellaam relatively new areas so and outsiders population um jaasthi, oru coolness um irukku! Jayanagar 4th block shopping >>>>> Pondy Bazaar

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

So, the new trend is like this :
step 1 : Take the black money as before to tax havens
step 2 : bring it into India ("white") as FDI from letter pad company to letter pad company
step 3: invest in real estate ("greenfield properties" :lol:)

vilai En ERadhu?

You mean there is excess of Real Estate projects? Black ai white aakki real estate project panraanga ok, but why price rise becos of this?!?

[rajraj]

Those who invest black money( a form of money laundering) can spend more - offer more for the land and building materials raising the cost for all.
This is very common. People who sell their homes in California can afford to buy houses at prices higher than local prices in other states raising the price for all. I have seen this happen.




You mean there is excess of Real Estate projects? Black ai white aakki real estate project panraanga ok, but why price rise becos of this?!?

[SoftSword]

Whitefield/Kundalahalli, BSK/Jayanagar madhiri oru area kooda innaikku porulaadharathukku Chennai la undo? Illa!
The biggest blow is i can't recognize the areas i grew up in, roamed around or collected from. Theruvula ninna oru belonging-e illa. Jana koottam appadiye thallittu poidra feeling. Mumbai la ellaam enna sombal, sogam irundhaalum theruvula kaaleduthu vecha ella poirum, jivvu nu oru jeevan varum. (Bangalore is extremely depressing-ngaradhu vera vishayam). At least there are pockets in Bangalore where you have space for yourself and it feels like a residence.
And the house rents for the quality of the apartments is apalling in Chennai. Bangalore la irukka koodiya condominium madhiri Chennai la kedaiyaadhu, appadiye irundhaalum araajaga rent.
Chennai-vaasiya irukkumbodhellaam veyyil oru porutte illa. Modhalla veliyoorukku velaikkaaga vaazhndhappa'laam Chennai-a bayangarama defend pannuven. The decline started in the late 2000's (2005/6 was one of the best periods for me so i'm discounting that. One important reason was my work place was within the city).
And this OMR thing is BS. Ellaa office-um anga dhaan irukku. Where does one stay? City-la irundhaa prachanai, veliya ponaalum prachanai. This is the main reason why Bangalore worked. Of course, it's all down to my specific circumstances and how it affects me.


June to July first week India la (2 weeks official + 3 weeks leave).
chennaila mattha area theriyaadhu.. but nan last year visit panna varaikkum en friend veedu irukkura madippaakkam area oralavu apdiyae dhaan irukkunu nenakkiraen 10 varusamaa...

btw, indhiyaa ungalai anbudan varaverkkiradhu...

[ajithfederer]

Arriving in an unfamiliar city with no idea of its street ethos can be a recipe for disaster. Ask the three students from Kolkata who came to Chennai to make contact with their distance education institution, the University of Madras. Two of them were robbed of their luggage and money by an autorickshaw driver who offered them a ride from Chennai Central.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/article3439800.ece?homepage=true

The autorickshaw driver who made off with the luggage of the students represents what could be called a major group of defectors. As opposed to co-operation (in the economic sense) which produces win-win outcomes, these foolish, short-sighted individuals create massive losses for the city's overall economy by ruining its reputation globally. Certainly, the majority of autorickshaws pose no such threat. Also, there is the small group of “tourist-friendly autos”. These drivers do not get hostile but ask for arbitrary fares all the same. In general, an autorickshaw ride in the city can be a costly affair.

It is an irony that the youth who were robbed had a masters degree in geography. Did they consult a map of the city before arriving, to find their co-ordinates? Whether it is Google Maps or Open Street Maps, it is possible to get a mental picture of where one is going, the distance involved and landmarks. Google Transit goes a step further, and provides actual travel options. A community initiative, India Bus Routes Mapping Project (http://busroutes.in/chennai/) has a database of bus routes and a helpful map.

The story of the Kolkata students confirms something Chennaiites have always suspected — the costly CCTV cameras at many city junctions are mere duds, paid for by the taxpayer. No footage of the autorickshaw driver was available even near the VVIP stretch of Anna Square Police Station. The police rigorously check vehicle documents of two-wheelers at several places in the city everyday. How about inspecting the papers of autorickshaws inside Chennai Central and elsewhere? After the robbery, the police could have at least sent a wireless message to launch a massive check and help the students get their certificates back.

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Bangalore autos, (mostl of them) has to mandatorily display full details, the passengers can view them. This practice is there from atleast past 2/3 years

[littlemaster1982]

Bangalore autos, (mostl of them) has to mandatorily display full details, the passengers can view them. This practice is there from atleast past 2/3 years

Adhukku munna irundhe irukku. A very good system actually. Ippallam B'lore auto drivers meter podaradhillaiye yen :confused2: Yesterday only one driver obliged while 4 others demanded flat fares.

[selvakumar]

Had a horrible experience with an autodriver last evening in Bangalore. No.. this is not related to meter or anything. Our two wheeler just kissed the back of the auto. For that, he was displaying all the kind of problems that are in his auto and was demanding Rs.3000/-. Actual cost to repair can't exceed Rs.100/-. After hours of wait and receiving some threats, abuses we finally settled everything with Rs.1200/-. Auto kaaran naalae pathikittu varuthu ippo ellam. I think the experience will be same everywhere. Autokaaranunga ippadi claim pannumnae standard ah sila prachanaikal auto la vittu vachirupanunga pola! %%@#%^

[selvakumar]

I am planning to move to Chennai after marriage. Had enough of bangalore. I am trying but it is not working out for some reasons.

[lydayaxobia493]

Tis is my city..no power cut... be happy.. :-D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surat


Surat (Gujarati: સુરત), also known as Suryapur, is a commercial city of the Indian state of Gujarat. It is also administrative capital of Surat district and one of the fastest growing cities in India. The city proper is the third cleanest city in India. Surat is Gujarat's second largest city and India's 8th most populated city (in terms of Population in Municipal Corporation area of the City) with a population of 4.5 million. Surat ranks fourth in a global study of fastest developing cities conducted by The City Mayors Foundation, an international think tank on urban affairs. It is the fastest growing Indian city in terms of economic prosperity. The city registered an annualised GDP growth rate of 11.5 per cent over the seven fiscal years between 2001 and 2008, according to data compiled by the economic research firm Indicus Analytics. UK-based charity, The Ecological Sequestration Trust (TEST), has selected Surat as one of the three cities in the world, to be developed as "global cities."

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=319062381501775&set=a.179761968765151.43688.179604478780900&type=1&theater

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சென்னையிலே இருக்கிறதே சாதனைதான்!...

தமிழ்ச் சினிமாவில் பல படங்களில் இந்தக் கதை அமைந்து இருக்கும்.ஏழைக் கதாநாயகன் அல்லது வில்லனால் ஏழையாக்கப்பட்ட கதாநாயகன்"நானும் உன்னைப் போல பணக்காரனாகி,உன்னையும் உன் திமிரையும் அடக்கலைன்னா நான் என் பேரை மாத்திக்கிறேன்!" என்று ஆக்ரோஷமாக கூறி சென்னைக்கு ரயிலேறுவார்.

ஒரு வழியாக சினிமா இலக்கணத்திற்கே உரியவாறு செல்வந்தரின் அபிமானத்தைப் பெற்று மிகப் பெரிய கோடீஸ்வரராகவும் மாறுவார்.

அப்புறம் கிராமத்திற்கு திரும்பி,தாம் சவால் விட்ட வில்லனை வாய் பிளக்க வைத்து,கூடவே தனது காதலியை-அநேகமா வில்லனின் மகள்- மணந்து கொள்வதுடன் படம் சுபமாக முடியும்.

இந்த வகையறா கதைகள் நம் சினிமாக்களில் அரதப்பழசாகிப் போனாலும்,அது சென்னையை தாண்டி, தமிழகத்தின் கடைகோடி கிராமத்து இளைஞன் வரை தாக்கத்தை ஏற்படுத்த தவறியதில்லை.

இந்தக் கதைகளின் தாக்கத்தில் மெட்ராசுக்கு ரயிலேறியவர்கள் கணக்கிடலங்காது;இது 70, 80 களின் நிலை என்றால்,தற்போது தொலைக்காட்சிகள் மற்றும் இதர இணையங்கள் வாயிலாக சகலத்தையும் அறிந்துகொண்டு அசால்டாக ரயிலேறிவிடுகிறார்கள் சென்னைக்கு!

இதுபோன்று பிழைப்புத் தேடி வருபவர்களால் சென்னை மாநகரத்தின் மக்கள் தொகை 45 லட்சமாக உயர்ந்துள்ளது.இவர்களைத் தவிர ரேஷன் கார்டு இல்லாத நிலையில் வசிப்பவர்கள் எண்ணிக்கை பல லட்சம் இருக்கும்.

புறநகர் பகுதியில் இருந்து சென்னைக்கு வேலை காரணமாக வந்து செல்பவர்கள்... தற்காலிகமாக சென்னைக்கு வந்து பணிபுரிபவர்கள் என்று நாளுக்கு நாள் மக்கள் தொகையின் எண்ணிக்கை ஒரு கோடியைத் தாண்டி பெருகிக் கொண்டே போகிறது.

சென்னையின் பூர்வீகக் குடிகளாக சொந்த வீடு உள்ளவர்கள், நல்ல வசதி படைத்தவர்கள். தனியார்துறையிலோ அரசுத்துறையிலோ நல்ல சம்பளத்தில் உள்ளவர்கள்தான் வசதியான வீடுகளில் நல்ல நல்ல அப்பார்ட்மெண்டுகளில் வசிக்கிறார்கள்.

கடந்த 10 ஆண்டுகளில் என்ஜினீயரிங் கல்வி முடித்த 50 லட்சம் பேர்களில், 30 லட்சம் பேர் வேலைக்காக சென்னையில் வந்து இறங்கி விட்டனர். வேலை கிடைத்ததும் 4 மாணவர்கள் கூட்டாக சேர்ந்து 6 ஆயிரம் ரூபாய் தரக்கூடிய அப்பார்ட்மென்ட்டுக்கு 12 ஆயிரம் ரூபாய் கொடுத்து குடியேறுகிறார்கள்.

அரசு சார்பாக வீட்டு உரிமையாளர்கள் வசூலிக்கும் வாடகையைக் கண்காணிக்க எந்தவித அமைப்பும் இல்லாமல் இருப்பது மிகப் பெரிய துரதிர்ஷ்டம். பேராசை பிடித்த இவர்களும் புரோக்கர் கோமாளிகளும் ரியல் எஸ்டேட் கொள்ளைக்காரர்களும் செயற்கையான ஒரு பற்றாக்குறையை ஏற்படுத்துகின்றனர்.

அதன் வாய்க்கு வந்த வாடகை, அபரிமிதமான அட்வான்ஸ் என்று நடுத்தர வர்க்கத்தினரை போட்டுத்தாக்குகிறார்கள். நடுத்தர வர்க்கத்தினர், தங்கள் வருமானத்தில் இரண்டில் ஒரு பகுதியை வாடகையாகக் கொடுத்தால்தான் நல்ல வீடுகளில் வசிக்க முடியும் என்ற நிலைக்கு வந்து விட்டார்கள்.

இது ஒருபுறம் இருக்க புறநகர் ரயில்களிலும்,மாநகர பேருந்திலும் நெரிசலில் பயணித்து வேலைக்கு சென்று,வீடு திரும்புவதற்குள் உடல் சக்கையாகிவிடுகிறது.

ஆப்புதனை அசைத்து விட்ட குரங்கைப் போல் இந்த சென்னை நகர வாழ்க்கையை விட்டு விடவும் முடியாமல், ஒட்டிக் கொள்ளவும் முடியாமல் நாட்கள் ஓடிக் கொண்டிருக்கும்.

சொந்த கிராமத்தில் நிலபுலன்கள் இருக்க, பட்டப்படிப்பு படித்து இருக்கும் ஒரு காரணத்திற்காகவே நகர வாழ்க்கை என்னும் சிலுவையை சுமந்து திரியும் அவல நிலை. வீடு, காடு, சாதிசனம் எல்லாமும் வேண்டும்; மகன் மட்டும் பேண்ட் போட்ட ஒயிட்காலர் ஜாப் பார்க்க வேண்டும் அதுவும் சென்னை,கோவை போன்ற பெரு நகரத்தில் வேலை வேண்டும் என்னும் முரண்பட்ட சிந்தனையே இதற்குக் காரணம்.

கிராமங்களில் சுய தொழிலுக்கென மத்திய,மாநில அரசுகள் அநேக நலத்திட்டங்களை வழங்கி வந்தாலும் இளைஞர்கள் அவற்றைப்பற்றி தெரிந்து கொள்ள அக்கறைக்காட்டுவதில்லை; அப்படியே அறிந்து கொள்ளலாம் என்று வருபவர்களையும் அதிகாரிகள் முறையாக வழிநடத்துவதில்லை.

கூடவெ உள்ளூரில் இருந்தால் சதா சர்வகாலமும் டாஸ்மாக்கில் குடித்து விட்டு வம்பு செய்து கொண்டு கிடப்பதும் இவர்களை சென்னைக்கு வேலைக்கு அனுப்புவதற்கு ஒரு காரணமாக கிராமப்புற பெற்றோர்களால் சொல்லப்படுகிறது.விவசாய வேலைகள் செய்வதை விரும்பாத ஒரு இளையதலைமுறை உருவாகி வருவதும் ஒரு காரணமாகப் பார்க்கப்படுகிறது.

சென்னைக்கு புலம் பெயர்ந்து வருபவர்களுக்கு இந்த ஊர் மற்றும் இதன் வாழ்க்கை முறை தங்களுக்கு மிகவும் சிரமம் என்பது புரிந்து விடுகிறது.ஆனால் ”மெட்ராஸ் வரைக்கும் பொழைக்கப் போயிட்டு அங்க முடியாம இங்க வந்துட்டாங்க..!” என்ற வசைச் சொல்லுக்கு பயந்தே பலர் இந்த மாநகர வாழ்க்கையை சகித்து கொள்கிறார்கள்.

கிராமங்களில், அதன் அருகாமையில் உள்ள நகரங்களில் பணிபுரிய வாய்ப்புகள் இருந்தும் கடினமான இந்த வாழ்க்கை முறையைத் தேர்ந்தெடுக்கிறார்கள்.காரணம் சொந்த ஊர் பகுதியில் 4 ஆயிரம் ரூபாய் சம்பளம்.சென்னையில் அதே வேலைக்கு 10 ஆயிரம் ரூபாய் சம்பளம் என்ற மயக்கத்தில் வேலை பார்க்கிறார்கள்.

உண்மையில் சொந்த ஊரில் மாதம் ஆயிரம் ரூபாய் சேமிக்க முடிந்த அவரால் சென்னையில் மாதம் ஆயிரம் ரூபாய் கடனாளியாகி, போனஸைக்கூட சேர்ந்த கடன்களுக்குக் கொடுத்து விட்டு மறுபடியும் செக்குமாடு போல் தன் அலுவலகத்துக்கு வழக்கமான தனது புலம்பலுடன் புறப்பட்டு செல்வார்.

இதில் சில கணவன் மனைவியர், பெரியவர்கள் எவர் துணையும் இல்லாமல் சென்னையில் தங்களின் பிள்ளைகளை வளர்க்க வேண்டுமானால், அவர்கள் படும் துயரங்கள் சொல்லி முடியாது. சொந்த மண்ணில் தாய் தந்தையர் அரவணைப்பில், சித்தப்பா சித்தி மாமா அத்தை தாத்தா பாட்டி என்று வளர வேண்டிய குழந்தைகள் யாருமற்றவர்கள் போல் பக்கத்து பிளாட் குழந்தைகளுடன் ஒட்டியும் ஒட்டாமலும் வளர்கிறார்கள்.

வாணியம்பாடியின் வானம்பாடி கவிஞர் கவிக்கோ அப்துல் ரகுமான் கூறியது போல் ”இவர்கள் தன்னை விற்று விட்டு எதை வாங்கப் போகிறார்கள்?” என்பதைத்தான் நினைக்க வேண்டியிருக்கிறது.

ஒரு மனிதன் பரிபூரணமான மகிழ்ச்சியுடன் இருக்க வேண்டுமானால் ஏழு விஷயங்கள் அவசியம் என்று உளவியலாளர்கள் கூறுகிறார்கள். 1. சொந்த ஊர் 2. தாய் தந்தையர் மற்றும் உறவினர்கள் 3. சொந்த வீடு 4. நண்பர்கள் 5. பணம் 6. கேளிக்கை நிகழ்ச்சிகள் திருவிழாக்கள், திருமண விழாக்கள் 7. ஆரோக்கியமான உடல் நலம்.

இந்த ஏழு விஷயங்கள் இருந்தால் தான் நிம்மதியான வாழ்க்கை வாழ முடியும்.அப்போது நம் சிந்தனை வளம் மேம்பட்டு இருக்கும்.நம் மனநலமும் காக்கப்படும்.ஓஷோவின் பொன் வாக்கியமான வாழ்க்கையைக் கொன்டாட முடியும்.இல்லாவிட்டால் கவலை படுவதிலேயே நம் வாழ்க்கை முடிந்து போய் இருப்பதைத்தான் உணர முடியும்.

நீண்ட நாட்களுக்குப் பின் சந்தித்துக் கொண்ட இரண்டு நண்பர்கள் இப்படி பேசிக் கொண்டார்கள்.”சென்னையில் ஏதோ சாதிக்கப் போறேன்னு புறப்பட்டியே என்ன சாதிச்சே?” என்று ஒருவன் கேட்டான். அதற்கு அந்த நண்பன் பதில் சொன்னான்,” சென்னையிலே இருக்கிறதே ஒரு சாதனை தான்!” என்று.இது நகைச்சுவைக்காக சொல்லப்பட்ட பதில் அல்ல; அப்பட்டமான யதார்த்தத்தின் வெளிப்பாடு..!!!