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PARAMASHIVAN
17th September 2014, 02:40 PM
நிகழ்ச்சியை உட்கார்ந்து பார்த்துக் கொண்டே இருந்த அர்னால்டு முன்பு பாடி பில்ட் ஷோ நடைபெற்றது. நிறைய பாடி பில்டர்கள் ஷங்கர் படங்களின் பாடல்களுக்கு ஏற்றவாறு பாடி பில்ட் நிகழ்ச்சியை அரங்கேற்றி, நேரடியாக அர்னால்டுக்கு மரியாதை செய்தார்கள். அப்போது, அவர்களோடு இணைந்து மேடையேறிய அர்னால்டு, தன்னுடைய பேச்சைத் தொடங்கினார்.

இதை கவனித்ததும், நிகழ்ச்சியைத் தொகுத்து வழங்கிய நடிகர் சிம்ஹா குறுக்கிட்டு, 'படத்தைப் பற்றிய பேச்சை அப்புறம் பேசலாம் சார்' என்று கூறவே, "நான் எப்போது என்ன பேச வேண்டும் என்பதை நான்தான் முடிவு செய்ய வேண்டும்" என்று தொடங்கி தனது பேச்சைத் தொடங்கி முடித்து அரங்கினை விட்டு வெளியேறினார்.

இசையை வெளியிடுவதற்கு முன்பே அர்னால்டு நிகழ்ச்சியில் இருந்து வெளியேறியது, விழா ஏற்பாட்டாளர்களுக்கு அதிர்ச்சியை ஏற்படுத்தியது.


ThirunthavE maatanga !

balaajee
17th September 2014, 04:33 PM
சூர்யாவின் வாட்ஸ் அப்பில் ஐ பட போஸ்டர்! - vikatan
ஷங்கர் இயக்கத்தில் விக்ரம், எமி ஜாக்சன் நடிப்பில் உருவாகி வரும் ’ஐ’ படத்தின் இசை மற்றும் டீஸர் சமீபத்தில் வெளியானது.
தனுஷ் உட்பட பல சினிமா பிரபலங்கள் படத்திற்கும் , ஷங்கர் ,விக்ரம் ஆகிய இருவருக்கும் சமூக வலை தளங்களில் தங்களது வாழ்த்துகளை தெரிவித்து வருகின்றனர்.

’பிதாமகன்’ படத்தின் மூலம் இணைந்து நடித்த சூர்யா மற்றும் விக்ரமின் நட்பு இப்பொழுதும் தொடர்கிறது
http://cinema.vikatan.com/uploaded/Suriya-Whatsapp.jpg
இந்நிலையில் சூர்யா தனது வாட்ஸ் அப் புகைப்படமாக ‘ஐ’ போஸ்டரை வைத்திருப்பது பலரையும் ஆச்சர்யத்தில் ஆழ்த்தியுள்ளது. சூர்யா தனது வாட்ஸ அப் ஸ்டேட்டஸாக ’ஆல் தி பெஸ்ட் டூ ஐ டீம்’ என வைத்திருக்கிறார்.

Mahen
17th September 2014, 08:03 PM
upen patel
‏@upenpatelworld
#ladio ������ #i movie .... Day 1 shooting is going amazing!! Shankar sir is magic

upen patel @upenpatelworld · 9h
On set �� last song for #i movie������

Shooting still going on..and pc sriram has moved on to Shamitabh..:( so looks like the release will be delayed

ajaybaskar
17th September 2014, 08:09 PM
So song is shot by some other cinematographer?

sakthii
17th September 2014, 09:34 PM
nice trailer, sure shankar will keep up the expectation.

Parthyy
17th September 2014, 10:04 PM
Shooting still going on..and pc sriram has moved on to Shamitabh..:( so looks like the release will be delayed
How PCSreeram can delay the film??

hattori_hanzo
17th September 2014, 11:29 PM
கலயாணம்னா நாந்தான் "மணமகன்"!

இழவுனா நாந்தான் "பிணமகன்"னு இருக்கணும்ங்கிற எண்ணத்தில் இருக்கும் "பெரிய மனுஷனுகளுக்கு" சக நடிகனைப் பற்றி ஒரு நாலு வார்த்தை நல்லாச் சொல்லத் தெரியாது. இது ஒரு வியாதி! அதனால் தவிர்க்கப் பட்டு இருக்கலாம்.. :)

ஆமா, தெரியாமல்த்த்தான் கேக்கிறேன் ஒலகநாயகனைப் பத்தி கேட்டா ஏன்ப்பா சூப்பர் ஸ்டாரைப் பத்தி பேசுறீங்க?

Nowadays, Kamal is invited for more movie launches and audio release functions than any other actor. I have heard him praise Shankar, KSR and many other personalities, including upcoming actors like Vikram Prabhu. I don't think Shankar ignored Kamal or Kamal avoided Shankar. He must have been busy with the post production work of his 3 films. Also he got sick a couple of days back and was hospitalized for a short duration.

venkkiram
18th September 2014, 01:28 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Xqw8DWZ-cNQ

என்னோடு நீ இருந்தால் - சித் ஸ்ரீராம் ஆரம்பித்துப் பாடுவது - மெட்டமைப்பு & குரல் எல்லாமே எனக்கு 90களின் Bryan Adams-ஐ நினைவு படுத்துகிறது. உங்களுக்கெல்லாம் எப்படித் தோணுது? எனக்கு மட்டும்தான் இப்படித் தோணுதா?

Mahen
18th September 2014, 03:32 AM
So song is shot by some other cinematographer?
yes..looks like it..anyway its quite normal..it has happened in his films..i think shankar takes too long to shoot a movie..


How PCSreeram can delay the film??
sorry..was referring to the song shooting :)

mappi
18th September 2014, 04:21 AM
உங்களுக்கெல்லாம் எப்படித் தோணுது? எனக்கு மட்டும்தான் இப்படித் தோணுதா?

I am with you. 'Everything I do' mari oru song vennum-nu Shankar kettu irrupar pola.

But this song is awesome. BM mari nannum melt aitein. More I pound myself with the lyrics, more the picture come out beautifully :

Ennai Naan Yaarendru Sonnaalum Puriyathey => was quite emotionally rendered
En Kaathal Nee Endru Yaarukkum Theriyathey

Unmai Kaathal Yaathendraal Unnai Ennai Solvene
Neeyum Naanum Poi Endraal, Kaathalai Thedi Kolvene => excellent

Madam Replies :

Muthalai Kulaththil, Malaraai Malarnthen
Kuzhanthai Aruge Kurangaai Bayanthen => the beast with a heart.

Hats off Kabilan. And ARR kallaki irrukapla.

balaajee
18th September 2014, 06:31 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/470523672566829056/Fl38mfdK_normal.jpeg rajamouli ss @ssrajamouli (https://twitter.com/ssrajamouli) · Sep 15

(https://twitter.com/ssrajamouli/status/511657179992965120)


SHANKAR SIR!!!!! https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v1/72x72/1f64f.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v1/72x72/1f64f.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v1/72x72/1f64f.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v1/72x72/1f64f.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v1/72x72/1f64f.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v1/72x72/1f64f.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v1/72x72/1f64f.png “I” Teaser Is Just MIND BLOWING!!!!! No one can even come closer to his grandeur and visuals..

Cinemarasigan
18th September 2014, 09:37 AM
குறைந்தபட்ச நாகரீகம் கூடத் தெரியாமல், அர்னால்டின் தோளில் கைபோட்டு, அவர் பேசிக் கொண்டிருந்த மைக்கை கையால் மறைத்து, நீங்க கடைசிலதான் பேசணும்.. நான் கூப்பிடும் வரை இருக்கையில் அமருங்கள் என, ஒரு கத்துக்குட்டி நடிகரான பாபி சிம்ஹா சொன்னதுதான் நிகழ்ச்சியின் உச்சகட்ட அநாகரீகம். விடுங்க.. நான் என் பாணியில் பேசறேன் என்று கூறிவிட்டு, எழுதி வைத்துக் கொண்டு வந்திருந்ததைப் பேசாமல், சும்மா நான்கு வரிகள் மட்டும் பேசிவிட்டு, யாரிடமும் சொல்லாமல் கொள்ளாமல் கிளம்பினார் அர்னால்ட்

Too much by Bobby Simha...

Dilbert
18th September 2014, 10:27 AM
Steven's Spielberg of India You did it again.!!! ARR Garu Jai who?.

paranitharan
18th September 2014, 10:41 AM
Steven's Spielberg of India You did it again.!!! ARR Garu Jai who?.

:lol:

balaajee
18th September 2014, 11:16 AM
24 மணி நேரத்தில் 20 லட்சம் வியூஸ்... அசத்தும் 'ஐ' டிரைலர் (http://tamil.filmibeat.com/news/vikram-s-i-trailer-hit-on-youtube-030858.html)

elsaen11
18th September 2014, 11:25 AM
Ennodu nee irunthal and ladio :notworthy:

ARR sir :clap:

balaajee
18th September 2014, 11:29 AM
Audio Launch photos- http://cinema.vikatan.com/articles/news/24/6403

balaajee
18th September 2014, 12:07 PM
அர்னால்ட் ஏன் கோவிச்சிக்கிட்டு பாதியில் போனார் தெரியுமா? - இது ஆஸ்காரின் விளக்கம் (http://tamil.filmibeat.com/news/why-arnold-exit-from-the-i-audio-function-030864.html)

balaajee
18th September 2014, 12:33 PM
பாதியில் கிளம்பினாலும், பேஸ்புக்கில் ஐ விழாவைப் பாராட்டிய அர்னால்ட்! (http://tamil.filmibeat.com/news/the-kiss-that-irked-arnold-exit-i-audio-launch-030866.html)

Cinemarasigan
18th September 2014, 02:22 PM
ஆஸ்கார் ரவிச்சந்திரன் சார்பில் ஒரு விளக்கம் வெளியாகியுள்ளது. எண்ணைய் தடவிய உடம்பில் வேர்வை வழிய வந்த பாடி பில்டர்கள் அர்னால்டை கட்டிப் பிடித்தும், கையில் முத்தமிட்டும் ஆர்வக் கோளாறு பண்ணியதால், அவரது உடை அழுக்காகி, அவர் கைகளிலும் எண்ணெய் பிசுக்கு ஒட்டிக் கொண்டது. அதனால்தான் அர்னால்ட் சொல்லாமல் கொள்ளாமல் போய்விட்டார் என்று தயாரிப்பாளர் தரப்பு.

mappi
18th September 2014, 03:13 PM
Venkkiram,

While listening to Ennodu Nee Irundhal, did it cross you to refer to Elton John's piano Solos. I recomend his 'The Lion King' (Broadway) Musical (Esp. Can you feel the love tonight) [or a "Candle in the Wind"]. Also, if you are interested to take a walk around the Opera world (yes the one where trees sing too), I recoment 1986 Phanthom of Opera Musical. Two song should interest us wrt Ennodu Nee Irundhal - "The Point of No Return" and "Wishing You Were Somehow Here Again".

What ARR has brought is an altogether new form of taste to TFI audience. Anyone not quite used to Ballroom or Operas, for that Broadway theatre musicals will find it quite difficult to understand this song. Please listen to the above mentioned songs, Ennodu Nee Irunthal will make us proud. Like I mentioned earlier, ARR has shined a lot in this song, and sure it will get noticed and mentioned internationally.

balaajee
18th September 2014, 04:13 PM
இணையதள விமர்சகரை மிரட்டினாரா ஆஸ்கார் ரவிச்சந்திரன்? (http://tamil.filmibeat.com/news/aascar-ravichandiran-threats-online-critic-030871.html)

mexicomeat
18th September 2014, 06:36 PM
My thoughts on I (in no particular order):


In an interview few years ago, Shankar revealed that he wrote the Anniyan script (and Indian and Mudhalvan) script for Rajni. In the original Anniyan script, he wanted Rajni to play the inspector who investigates a series of murders that take place in the city. The inspector later comes to know that the culprit is his split personality. Rajni didn't want to do it as he felt that his fans wouldn't like him playing an mentally unstable role. Then Shankar narrated a hunchback (koonan) story to Rajni - once again Rajni rejected it. Both scripts have now gone to Vikram (Anniyan and I).

Shankar has this fascination for the word "an" in his title (anniyan, mudhalvan, indian, endhiran). He must have opted for I (beauty) only because Azhagan and Perazhagan are already taken. (Azhagi too)

From the trailer and songs it is clear that Vikram plays a north madras guy who aspires to become a body builder and Amy plays a model. If you add the theme "beauty" to the mix, you can pretty much guess the whole story.

If executed properly,a get-up change normally brings the wow effect. When charan raj did a mottai in gentleman, it was wow because it added value to the story line. When Rajni became white / mottai boss, it was the same feeling. Poorly executed examples include the squint eye in avan ivan. It was unnecessary and it did not add any value to the story. Vikram has lost all that weight just for the Pookale song. Shankar confirmed in one interview that the weight loss was not his idea, but Vikram's. Seriously? was all this required for a 4 min song? Completely unnecessary in my opinion.

I am guessing Ladio would be the opening song (like shakalaka baby in mudhalvan). Shankar usually has the song with good beats immediately after the interval (Gopala Gopala etc). Aila Aila fits the formula.

Vaalee is sorely missed. The lyrics (apart from a few) are pretty ordinary. For rhymes like "ladio / kodio", you don't need a full time poet. Santhanam and his lollu sabha gang could have done it.

Shankar's fascination for white skinned heroine continues. Lakshmi Rai, get ready for a call from Shankar soon.

Mahen
18th September 2014, 06:58 PM
My thoughts on I (in no particular order):

Shankar's fascination for white skinned heroine continues. Lakshmi Rai, get ready for a call from Shankar soon.

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Which successful commercial film had dark skinned heroine? Only tamil audience are obsessed with white skin heroines..dont blame the director..and Aishwariya RAi/illeana/shreya are not white skinned..Example of white skinned TAmanaah/hansika etc

elsaen11
18th September 2014, 07:10 PM
Which successful commercial film had dark skinned heroine? Only tamil audience are obsessed with white skin heroines..dont blame the director..and Aishwariya RAi/illeana/shreya are not white skinned..Example of white skinned TAmanaah

Santhadi saakula oru publikutti :lol2:

Mukzi
18th September 2014, 11:49 PM
i official teaser has been removed by sony music india on thier youtube channel due to copyright violations

paranitharan
19th September 2014, 12:10 AM
Copy rights issue? What is the newyork times doing?

paranitharan
19th September 2014, 12:20 AM
Which successful commercial film had dark skinned heroine? Only tamil audience are obsessed with white skin heroines..dont blame the director..and Aishwariya RAi/illeana/shreya are not white skinned..Example of white skinned TAmanaah/hansika etc

People are not demanding the directors to cast white skin girls. It has never happened. I mean how do the directors know we want to see fair skinned girls? It is just an excuse they use to keep casting fair skinned sexy girls. It is the directors that cast fair skinned girls in movies. Maniratnam started it, casting northies in tamil films and other directors continued the trend.

hattori_hanzo
19th September 2014, 12:24 AM
Shankar's fascination for white skinned heroine continues. Lakshmi Rai, get ready for a call from Shankar soon.

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He also has a fascination for slim girls. Madhubala (Gentleman), Aishwarya Rai (Jeans/Enthiran), Shriya (Sivaji), Genelia (Boys), Sada (Anniyan), Illeana (Nanban) and Amy.

hattori_hanzo
19th September 2014, 12:30 AM
Maniratnam started it, casting northies in tamil films and other directors continued the trend.

Actually MGR started it in (If I am not wrong) Idhayakkani. Rathi was introduced by Bharathiraja in Tamil; Khushbu, Nagma by Rajini ; Dimple by Kamal. Mani came in later.

hattori_hanzo
19th September 2014, 12:34 AM
Is this Vikram or someone else?

http://cinema.vikatan.com/images/gallery/2014/09/18/large/IMG_0222.jpg

paranitharan
19th September 2014, 12:49 AM
Actually MGR started it in (If I am not wrong) Idhayakkani. Rathi was introduced by Bharathiraja in Tamil; Khushbu, Nagma by Rajini ; Dimple by Kamal. Mani came in later.

Khusboo and Nagma by Rajini'ngrathu konjam over.

Though it has happened before, there was no trend. Directors were still casting plenty of tamil actresses and all of those directors worked with tamil actresses again. I don't think it applies for Mani. But my point is that audiences not to be blamed for that.

paranitharan
19th September 2014, 12:55 AM
My thoughts on I (in no particular order):


In an interview few years ago, Shankar revealed that he wrote the Anniyan script (and Indian and Mudhalvan) script for Rajni. In the original Anniyan script, he wanted Rajni to play the inspector who investigates a series of murders that take place in the city. The inspector later comes to know that the culprit is his split personality. Rajni didn't want to do it as he felt that his fans wouldn't like him playing an mentally unstable role. Then Shankar narrated a hunchback (koonan) story to Rajni - once again Rajni rejected it. Both scripts have now gone to Vikram (Anniyan and I).

Shankar has this fascination for the word "an" in his title (anniyan, mudhalvan, indian, endhiran). He must have opted for I (beauty) only because Azhagan and Perazhagan are already taken. (Azhagi too)

From the trailer and songs it is clear that Vikram plays a north madras guy who aspires to become a body builder and Amy plays a model. If you add the theme "beauty" to the mix, you can pretty much guess the whole story.

If executed properly,a get-up change normally brings the wow effect. When charan raj did a mottai in gentleman, it was wow because it added value to the story line. When Rajni became white / mottai boss, it was the same feeling. Poorly executed examples include the squint eye in avan ivan. It was unnecessary and it did not add any value to the story. Vikram has lost all that weight just for the Pookale song. Shankar confirmed in one interview that the weight loss was not his idea, but Vikram's. Seriously? was all this required for a 4 min song? Completely unnecessary in my opinion.

I am guessing Ladio would be the opening song (like shakalaka baby in mudhalvan). Shankar usually has the song with good beats immediately after the interval (Gopala Gopala etc). Aila Aila fits the formula.

Vaalee is sorely missed. The lyrics (apart from a few) are pretty ordinary. For rhymes like "ladio / kodio", you don't need a full time poet. Santhanam and his lollu sabha gang could have done it.

Shankar's fascination for white skinned heroine continues. Lakshmi Rai, get ready for a call from Shankar soon.


Good post, especially point 4. Alavukku meerina dedication lol
Vikram'ku romance varave matenguthu. Anniyan'la kuuda varala, ippo eppudi thideernu varum?

Freedom
19th September 2014, 03:48 AM
Good post, especially point 4. Alavukku meerina dedication lol
Vikram'ku romance varave matenguthu. Anniyan'la kuuda varala, ippo eppudi thideernu varum?

C'mon, you cannot get lower. Vikram is a well rounded actor compared to Ajith, Vijay & Surya.

Guess you haven't watched Sethu or thandavam then!

He has shown enough dedication for the roles he has done. I don't know what impact it will have on I. But from what I have seen, he has justified his changes in looks!

Mahen
19th September 2014, 05:54 AM
People are not demanding the directors to cast white skin girls. It has never happened. I mean how do the directors know we want to see fair skinned girls? It is just an excuse they use to keep casting fair skinned sexy girls. It is the directors that cast fair skinned girls in movies. Maniratnam started it, casting northies in tamil films and other directors continued the trend.
Mani started it?what nonsense..AFAIK manisha koirala was the only one..when that happened, there were already many northies in tamil industry

Mahen
19th September 2014, 05:55 AM
C'mon, you cannot get lower. Vikram is a well rounded actor compared to Ajith, Vijay & Surya.

Guess you haven't watched Sethu or thandavam then!

He has shown enough dedication for the roles he has done. I don't know what impact it will have on I. But from what I have seen, he has justified his changes in looks!
+1...

paranitharan
19th September 2014, 07:11 AM
Mani started it?what nonsense..AFAIK manisha koirala was the only one..when that happened, there were already many northies in tamil industry

lol way to miss the point

paranitharan
19th September 2014, 07:20 AM
C'mon, you cannot get lower. Vikram is a well rounded actor compared to Ajith, Vijay & Surya.

Guess you haven't watched Sethu or thandavam then!

He has shown enough dedication for the roles he has done. I don't know what impact it will have on I. But from what I have seen, he has justified his changes in looks!

Other than Sethu and couple of macho roles, he has shown no versatality. Any films where he exceled in romance or comedy? He is only good at putting on weight, shedding it, putting a lot of make up and looking different. But when it comes to performance, he doesn't have it in him. Calling him all round actor is the most ridiculous thing I have heard. His Pithamagan performance is not unanimously appreciated because people could find the difference between a good performance and good make up plus average performance. Same goes to Anniyan. Lot of hard work in looking different but performance? Remo ellam romantic'aa? Anniyan exposed Vikram for what he is. Raavanan eppudi? He looked macho but his performance was loud and crass, not class.

elsaen11
19th September 2014, 09:41 AM
Vikram doesnt know to perform....? Varae va :notworthy:

venkkiram
19th September 2014, 10:01 AM
வெர்சடைல் என்றால்.. சேதுவிலேயே அதை செதுக்கியிருப்பாரே! படத்தோட ஆரம்ப விக்ரமிற்கும், முடிவு விக்ரமிற்கும் இடையே உள்ள தூரம் சொல்லி மாளாது. தில், தூள், ஜெமினி, சாமி வரை துடிப்பான போராடும் இளைஞன்.. பாடி லேங்குவேஜ் தூள் பறக்கும். காசி - பிதாமகன் சொல்லவே வேணாம். பிதாமகன் - க்ளைமாக்ஸ் காட்சியில் நிகழ்ந்தேறும் வேட்டைநாய் துரத்தல் தமிழ் சினிமா காணாத ஒன்று.. தெய்வத்திருமகள் - படம் முழுக்க அதிலேயே ஒன்றிப் போயிருந்தாரே! கோர்ட் சீன் காட்சி அற்புதமான தருணங்களில் ஒன்று. அந்நியன் - அம்பி - நூத்துல ஒன்னு. . காதல் ரசமென்றால்.. காதல் சடுகுடுவை சொல்லலாம். விக்ரம்-பிரியங்கா ரசவாதம் அருமையாக இருக்கும்.

paranitharan
19th September 2014, 10:02 AM
வெர்சடைல் என்றால்.. சேதுவிலேயே அதை செதுக்கியிருப்பாரே! படத்தோட ஆரம்ப விக்ரமிற்கும், முடிவு விக்ரமிற்கும் இடையே உள்ள தூரம் சொல்லி மாளாது. தில், தூள், ஜெமினி, சாமி வரை துடிப்பான போராடும் இளைஞன்.. பாடி லேங்குவேஜ் தூள் பறக்கும். காசி - பிதாமகன் சொல்லவே வேணாம். பிதாமகன் - க்ளைமாக்ஸ் காட்சியில் நிகழ்ந்தேறும் வேட்டைநாய் துரத்தல் தமிழ் சினிமா காணாத ஒன்று.. தெய்வத்திருமகள் - படம் முழுக்க அதிலேயே ஒன்றிப் போயிருந்தாரே! கோர்ட் சீன் காட்சி அற்புதமான தருணங்களில் ஒன்று. அந்நியன் - அம்பி - நூத்துல ஒன்னு. . காதல் ரசமென்றால்.. காதல் சடுகுடுவை சொல்லலாம். விக்ரம்-பிரியங்கா ரசவாதம் அருமையாக இருக்கும்.

Are you serious?

faithiu11
19th September 2014, 10:15 AM
No doubt vikram is the better actor after kamal in Tamil cinema..both of them could have become superstars(I mean so called no:1 spot) if they wish to do only commercial movies

venkkiram
19th September 2014, 10:18 AM
Are you serious?
I just said what I observed as you mentioned yours. Serious or not, you need to decide.

paranitharan
19th September 2014, 10:23 AM
Oh ok You are not serious. Intha nerathila rakesh kumar is sorely missed in the hub.

dell_gt
19th September 2014, 11:17 AM
to be honest, after sometimes liked ARR sir album.. totally satisfied with all the songs.. my pick as below
1.Enodu Nee Irundhaal (Both Version)
2.Aila Aila
3.Ladio - 32 22 32 :) Amy Jackson :)
4. Mersalaayiten
5.Pookalae Sattru Oyivedungal

Freedom
19th September 2014, 11:57 AM
Other than Sethu and couple of macho roles, he has shown no versatality. Any films where he exceled in romance or comedy? He is only good at putting on weight, shedding it, putting a lot of make up and looking different. But when it comes to performance, he doesn't have it in him. Calling him all round actor is the most ridiculous thing I have heard. His Pithamagan performance is not unanimously appreciated because people could find the difference between a good performance and good make up plus average performance. Same goes to Anniyan. Lot of hard work in looking different but performance? Remo ellam romantic'aa? Anniyan exposed Vikram for what he is. Raavanan eppudi? He looked macho but his performance was loud and crass, not class.

I could not even reply to this comment of yours. Who do you think could have honestly pulled off roles like Sethu, Pithamagan or Raavan with such ease? Being an Ajith Fan, I have to confess he cannot pull it off. I don't want to comment about vijay or surya. May be Kamal, but he is too old for such roles.

BTW I guess you haven't watched Dhill or Dhool. His comic timing is pretty good. He can also carry out macho roles like dhool, gemini and saamy with absolute ease.

ok, I won't waste any more time. But please be objective when you post. I find it funny that people choose to slander Vikram for his performance out of all actors!!

Russellmvr
19th September 2014, 12:25 PM
I could not even reply to this comment of yours. Who do you think could have honestly pulled off roles like Sethu, Pithamagan or Raavan with such ease? Being an Ajith Fan, I have to confess he cannot pull it off. I don't want to comment about vijay or surya. May be Kamal, but he is too old for such roles.

BTW I guess you haven't watched Dhill or Dhool. His comic timing is pretty good. He can also carry out macho roles like dhool, gemini and saamy with absolute ease.

ok, I won't waste any more time. But please be objective when you post. I find it funny that people choose to slander Vikram for his performance out of all actors!!

+....1

Arragesh
19th September 2014, 12:52 PM
+1
And Is it possible to add people to ignore list
Because ignorance is bliss always

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Mahen
19th September 2014, 12:56 PM
to be honest, after sometimes liked ARR sir album.. totally satisfied with all the songs.. my pick as below
1.Enodu Nee Irundhaal (Both Version)
2.Aila Aila
3.Ladio - 32 22 32 :) Amy Jackson :)
4. Mersalaayiten
5.Pookalae Sattru Oyivedungal
Me too..after so long im buying an original CD :oops: KT was ok..but its not something that you can listen all the time

Mahen
19th September 2014, 12:57 PM
I could not even reply to this comment of yours. Who do you think could have honestly pulled off roles like Sethu, Pithamagan or Raavan with such ease?!

Vera yaru..surya thaan :)

dell_gt
19th September 2014, 01:11 PM
Me too..after so long im buying an original CD :oops: KT was ok..but its not something that you can listen all the time

:) me to I (Original CD) KT download version :)

Mahen
19th September 2014, 01:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzTHmcXfeug&feature=youtu.be

3.8mil in 4 days :poke:

faithiu11
19th September 2014, 01:26 PM
Fantastic teaser( ithan en taku)...wen last time teaser created this much impact probably billa2.... But kind of feel Shankar revealed too many scenes in teaser..can predict story and screenplay..hope Shankar proves me wrong

dell_gt
19th September 2014, 01:29 PM
Fantastic teaser( ithan en taku)...wen last time teaser created this much impact probably billa2.... But kind of feel Shankar revealed too many scenes in teaser..can predict story and screenplay..hope Shankar proves me wrong

yea feel the same revealed too many scenes in teaser and also in the making of video.. but anyway Shankar movie...

Mahen
19th September 2014, 01:48 PM
the making of video? athu enna..post here pls

dell_gt
19th September 2014, 01:52 PM
the making of video? athu enna..post here pls

the one they show in Audio release function.. saw in FB.. let me check out for the link

ajaybaskar
19th September 2014, 02:25 PM
+1
And Is it possible to add people to ignore list
Because ignorance is bliss always

Sent from my LT22i using Tapatalk
Yes. Check the settings. Its very useful

VinodKumar's
19th September 2014, 02:35 PM
Andhamaari lam pannidadhinga neraya miss pannuvinga :).

Russellmvr
19th September 2014, 03:12 PM
yes... entertainment nalla irukkum.... !!

PARAMASHIVAN
19th September 2014, 03:17 PM
But when it comes to performance, he doesn't have it in him. Calling him all round actor is the most ridiculous thing I have heard. .
:shock: :shock: :shock:

Vikram and Surya are the only "actors " in the current, era, Dhanush is good as well, the rest are all Entertainers, and there are few comedians ( in the name Actors) !

Russellmvr
19th September 2014, 03:20 PM
Param anna.. being a comedian also a tough job to do.. :-)

paranitharan
19th September 2014, 04:51 PM
Oh Obama is going to put me on ignore list and I am losing my sleep over it. Toughen up kids.

CEDYBLUE
19th September 2014, 05:03 PM
3.8mil in 4 days :poke:

Easily the biggest reception to any tamil movie teaser :thumbsup:

Vikram, what an actor! Shankar has provided him an amazing platform and the actor in Vikram has relished it completely.

Mahen
19th September 2014, 05:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdfGaeeOgBc&feature=youtu.be&a

So the beast is just for a song.. :)

paranitharan
19th September 2014, 05:57 PM
I could not even reply to this comment of yours. Who do you think could have honestly pulled off roles like Sethu, Pithamagan or Raavan with such ease? Being an Ajith Fan, I have to confess he cannot pull it off. I don't want to comment about vijay or surya. May be Kamal, but he is too old for such roles.

BTW I guess you haven't watched Dhill or Dhool. His comic timing is pretty good. He can also carry out macho roles like dhool, gemini and saamy with absolute ease.

ok, I won't waste any more time. But please be objective when you post. I find it funny that people choose to slander Vikram for his performance out of all actors!!

Kandasamy, Anniyan ellaam vittutinga. Remo was anything but romantic.
He was good in Sethu. Saamy was only Vikram-pissible performance. Liked his Gemini performance too but all of that could be done by others and they don't prove anything.

Raavan and Pithamagan ellaam terribad. Even the characters were terrible so there is only so much he can do but in Raavan, he pulled the character down with his non existent acting.

Mr.GreyShirt
19th September 2014, 06:05 PM
My thoughts on I (in no particular order):



If executed properly,a get-up change normally brings the wow effect. When charan raj did a mottai in gentleman, it was wow because it added value to the story line. When Rajni became white / mottai boss, it was the same feeling. Poorly executed examples include the squint eye in avan ivan. It was unnecessary and it did not add any value to the story. Vikram has lost all that weight just for the Pookale song. Shankar confirmed in one interview that the weight loss was not his idea, but Vikram's. Seriously? was all this required for a 4 min song? Completely unnecessary in my opinion.



According to the making of video that Mahen posted, that weight loss seems to be for a character and not for a song sequence.

elsaen11
19th September 2014, 08:35 PM
Raavan and Pithamagan ellaam terribad. Even the characters were terrible so there is only so much he can do but in Raavan, he pulled the character down with his non existent acting.

Arumai arumai :banghead: .Ungalayellam konjam nadinga boss show ku anupuna therium :sigh2:

venkkiram
19th September 2014, 08:52 PM
Arumai arumai :banghead: .Ungalayellam konjam nadinga boss show ku anupuna therium :sigh2: விடுங்க விடுங்க.. இங்கே அவர் சொல்வதுமட்டுமே ரொம்பவும் சீரியஸாக எடுத்துக் கொள்ளணுமாம். மற்றவர்கள் ஏதாவது எழுதினால் "ஆர் யூ சீரியஸ்?" என ட்ரோல் செய்வாராம்.

faithiu11
19th September 2014, 08:54 PM
Arumai arumai :banghead: .Ungalayellam konjam nadinga boss show ku anupuna therium :sigh2:any one can tel their views...athukaga unnala nadika mudiyuma nu kekarthu doesn't sounds good....example oru hotel Ku poram dish nalla illanu solrom athuku owner mudinja nee poi cook pannu appathan unaku theriyum nu sonna nallava irukum

Mr.GreyShirt
19th September 2014, 09:33 PM
I take back what I said about the I songs earlier. I am actually enjoying most of the songs. :oops: Still can't stand Mersalayitten only because of the heavy use of auto-tune. Aila Aila and Ennodu Nee Irundhal are so repetitive though. It is getting kind of boring when I listen to it more than once.

A.ANAND
19th September 2014, 09:47 PM
kamall-lukku piragu antha idam vikramukkuthan..no doubt-ttu!ai movie release-sukku piragu athu meendum nilai niruthum..

elsaen11
19th September 2014, 10:36 PM
any one can tel their views...athukaga unnala nadika mudiyuma nu kekarthu doesn't sounds good....example oru hotel Ku poram dish nalla illanu solrom athuku owner mudinja nee poi cook pannu appathan unaku theriyum nu sonna nallava irukum

If you do that in hotel say saravana bhavan, A2B(ennaku therinja good hotels), then the problem is with? Simple

Freedom
19th September 2014, 11:47 PM
If you do that in hotel say saravana bhavan, A2B(ennaku therinja good hotels), then the problem is with? Simple

+1. Adhe Adhe!

kumarsr
20th September 2014, 01:35 AM
Songs are good and hype is great but still doubtful how they are going to recover the supposedly massive investment.

kumarsr
20th September 2014, 01:39 AM
kamall-lukku piragu antha idam vikramukkuthan..no doubt-ttu!ai movie release-sukku piragu athu meendum nilai niruthum.. Doubt that he can approach Kamal. Vikram is a good actor and a good fit for Shankar who relies heavily on make-up, special effects and needs a commitment of 2 to 3 years. I hope and wish "I" does well so it clears the way for VR-2.

paranitharan
20th September 2014, 02:11 AM
Doubt that he can approach Kamal. Vikram is a good actor and a good fit for Shankar who relies heavily on make-up, special effects and needs a commitment of 2 to 3 years. I hope and wish "I" does well so it clears the way for VR-2.

+1

exactly my sentiment. He is best suited for the gimmick roles that need dedication rather than acting.

mappi
20th September 2014, 03:16 AM
Request : Is it possible to get the high resolution (original without watermark) of this poster, please :

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxvlkJACQAESTbk.jpg:large

mappi
20th September 2014, 04:17 AM
Off Topic :

Chithan

Chithan is a very peculiar character, atleast never seen before by me. We have only seen physical or mental disorders enacted by several artists throughout the globe, but never a character like Chithan.

Chithan is a normal human being, meaning, he does not suffer any physical disorder, but still he is abnormal that he cannot even walk straight. Chithan is a metally stable guy, who knows hunger and pain, but still he is unstable, as he does not feed like a normal person or react normaly to physical pain. Chithan is not a muet, but still he does not speak or is it that he is hesitant to deliver in a understandable human language ? Maybe Chithan will pass an IQ test with ease, but still he cannot express himself. Chithan has feelings, but cannot translate it for the soceity. For him love is universal, just as death, he loves a man, yes, another man. This affection he gets is only similar to the love of a domestic animal with its master; [other notions excluded]. He does not hide his love, but does not convey it in a manner others could understand. Mourning is his breakfast, but mourning for his love is never in his menu. Chithan is not confused, but still he cannot focus. He hears voices from the sky, but is deaf to others call. He is emotionally attached, but quite detached in expressing them. He is neither secure nor feels insecure. He is afraid but never nervous. When he is excited he just stares. And when he is angry or in joy, he shows his teeth, where his eyes take care of the relay.

Last but miles far from least, he is human, but still he behaves like an animal. Basically, Chithan is all that isn't.

This characterisation is certainly anything else, but terrible. The variation of Chithan from being normal to abnormal is potrayed all long the film where normal characters do normal things, but Chithan alone does what one does not expect him to do. The story is basically how this character, a stray, gets domesticated but turns to be the fittest, not for survival but, as a fittest man in love. Beauty is the romance part in the whole film where, when you eliminate the lady artists, its exactly a love between 2 men. The con part is when you jot the story : Hero arrives to a village - heroine sympathises with the hero - they get along well - Villain Kills Heroine - Hero takes revenge.

The problem arises when you look at a piece of work of such a calibre with just jargons of Film Making leading to making sweeping statements.

There are several levels of acting technics, 2 major being : exaggeration and being natural. Without giving you the names of any artists : Exaggeration is the most prominently used technic. The natural talent of replicating oneself to the character and its manerism is something adorable to see when performed by certain artists. But they do go overboard. Being natural is quite difficult too, as you are not the same as the character but the demand is to be. Its like asking you to scold at yourself before the mirror. Its also a Natural Talent, where few artists without any effort convince you that they are what they are playing.

Now comes the interesting part - Being the character. It needs an immense talent, both as natural and as an extended gift, to gauge the character and reciprocate it. It cannot be just coined as a dedication, then any artist with a passion should do that. The depth - how far you can reach your leg in the dark pit without falling down ? - where you have to go and search this unknown person (character) inside you. Bringing him out is altogether a different story. A small deviation can cause an immense impact over the reading. Controlling and giving it in the same meter from start to end is something unimaginable. If its just one scene or two, it can be adjusted but all the closeups at regualr intervals, which stays on you for a while, is not an easy task. What increases the challenge are the 3 basic nature of the character Chithan - Stray, domestic & monster. These 3 nature takes its sweet time to be exposed, meaning, the artist should stay in a particular state for a long while, and then give a glimpse of change so that the audience can translate it. Over doing it (exaggeration) will end up disastrous and underplaying it will cut the impact.

Vikram is Chithan. Watch Pithamagan (again), and any one aspect illustrated above strikes you while watching Chithan, then Vikram is the winner.

irir123
20th September 2014, 05:44 AM
Vikram IMHO is the kind of an actor whose acting skills are better handled by someone like the late Balu Mahendra, or, pehaps in some future film, by Kamal !

Vikram gives what the director wants - I find his performances in Shankar's films over-the-top - not that he cannot do understated roles, but its just that directors like Bala and Shankar demand and cater to his over-the-top performances.

someone here said 'maybe Kamal might have done what Vikram did' - nalla joke - the kind of roles Vikram has done, Kamal can do in between yawns !

no comparison at all - nadigar thilagam and Kamal are in leagues of their own.

OnMyWay
20th September 2014, 06:23 AM
Feel Vikram hasnt been challenged enough by roles where the character grows during the film or is multilayered.

The one character that comes to mind in that regard is Samurai, although a commercial movie , had some scope in that regard.
But his performance didnt really standout there.

The truly great ones give the feeling they are going through stuff internally much more than what meets the audience's eyes in the physical acting.

He is capable of a being subtler though, he has done a few malayalam movies where he hasnt been so loud. So he can be subtle and loud.

He is great at working with certain material,a wonderful showman. He is inspirational in the way he devotes himself to his craft.
But an acting masterclass is more than just effort .

.

venkkiram
20th September 2014, 06:32 AM
விக்ரம் போன்ற நடிகர்களை சரியாக பயன்படுத்த தெரியாமல் தவிக்கும் தமிழ்த் திரையுலகம்! குறைந்த காலத்தில் படத்தை முடிக்காமல் ராவணன், ஐ இரண்டு படங்களுக்குமே நேரவிரயத்தில் மாட்டிக் கொள்கிறார். வயதும் ஆகிக் கொண்டெ போகிறது. சேது என்ற நிலையை அடைவதற்கு முன் விக்ரம் செல்லாத எல்லைகள் கிடையாது. காதலன், மின்சாரக் கனவில் பிரபுதேவாவுக்கு குரல் கொடுத்திருப்பார். அப்பப்பா!

paranitharan
20th September 2014, 07:31 AM
Feel Vikram hasnt been challenged enough by roles where the character grows during the film or is multilayered.

The one character that comes to mind in that regard is Samurai, although a commercial movie , had some scope in that regard.
But his performance didnt really standout there.

The truly great ones give the feeling they are going through stuff internally much more than what meets the audience's eyes in the physical acting.

He is capable of a being subtler though, he has done a few malayalam movies where he hasnt been so loud. So he can be subtle and loud.

He is great at working with certain material,a wonderful showman. He is inspirational in the way he devotes himself to his craft.
But an acting masterclass is more than just effort .

.

:thumbsup:

sakthii
20th September 2014, 10:10 AM
Vikram is great actor, who can mold to what ever character the director prefer, he got great ability to observe things..Also Sharkar is.
If i am correct Shankar and Vikram are virgo, both make a great pair. Wish vikram a great success, all for this true dedication.

caught up with HULK climax in TV, think I climax would be something similar to it. sure Shankar will have his own creativity. Wish to see him directing a hollywood movie. when his close buddy ARR can, sure Shankar can make his step towards hollywood.

mappi
20th September 2014, 05:39 PM
Feel Vikram hasnt been challenged enough by roles where the character grows during the film or is multilayered.

Omitting "multilayered", as I am scared of this word/term, most of characters Vikram played do grow all along the film giving a multi flavoured experience for the audience. The problem of this discussion that we are heading nowhere, is basically because the people occupying the least share in the pie chart are coming out with multiple exemples and resuming an entire carrier in just under 250 characters. We have to pinpoint one at a time and go on to feed the argument rather than including a bunch of movies disliked in the same line.

Anyway, lets take the under rated movie Bheema, Bheema alone it is.

Bheema is a free lance rowdy geting his inspiration from a classic goon since childhood. The character elevates with happiness when he gets acquainted with the goon (apply Maslow's hierarchy of needs, if necessary). It gets deeper when he becomes the only savior of his (god) father, until he is exposed to another parallely existing form, the necessity. Here the rugged character shows signs of clamness and a visionless Bhemma starts creating his future when the ultimate misunderstanding hits him hard. One side he is losing his dream fort, other side he is losing his castle which sheltered him. Caught inbetween are the numerous decision that he has to make where time is calcualted only in seconds. There is a dialogue in the film describing Bheema - "Possuku-nu Yosikira narathula Sutitu poite irrupna" - Even this dialogue evolues, giving it altother a different meaning towards the end, where Bheema gets trapped inside his own Best Quality which effects not only Bheema but his God Father too. Then the police encounter should speak for itself the state Bheema is in.

So you see the character does grow all the while in the film, and Vikram suits up with the right design for each changeover.

Now we can take anyother movie of your choice. But please don't bring in Maaja or Rajapattai or Kandasamy just for the sake of it. Its not that there isn't anyting to talk about them, but I consider these films don't merit a discussion, atleast I am not giving my time.

faithiu11
20th September 2014, 08:57 PM
Again people telling ai releasing for deepavali....ithanala kaththiku yenna loss iruka pogathu ..producer sollitar intha padam
Budget yen kathu nondra kuchuku samam nu....vijay and arm inneram salary vangi invest pannitrupanga....venumna collection divide aagi matra nadigar rasigargaluku sandai poda vasathiya irukalam ...kandipa vijay fans kaththi ya than 2 or 3 times parpanga...it impacts ai collection for sure...since its a huge budget and producer in some sort of financial trouble ai Ku than intha clash bathagama irukum nu nenaikiran

OnMyWay
21st September 2014, 12:40 AM
Omitting "multilayered", as I am scared of this word/term, most of characters Vikram played do grow all along the film giving a multi flavoured experience for the audience. The problem of this discussion that we are heading nowhere, is basically because the people occupying the least share in the pie chart are coming out with multiple exemples and resuming an entire carrier in just under 250 characters. We have to pinpoint one at a time and go on to feed the argument rather than including a bunch of movies disliked in the same line.

Anyway, lets take the under rated movie Bheema, Bheema alone it is.

Bheema is a free lance rowdy geting his inspiration from a classic goon since childhood. The character elevates with happiness when he gets acquainted with the goon (apply Maslow's hierarchy of needs, if necessary). It gets deeper when he becomes the only savior of his (god) father, until he is exposed to another parallely existing form, the necessity. Here the rugged character shows signs of clamness and a visionless Bhemma starts creating his future when the ultimate misunderstanding hits him hard. One side he is losing his dream fort, other side he is losing his castle which sheltered him. Caught inbetween are the numerous decision that he has to make where time is calcualted only in seconds. There is a dialogue in the film describing Bheema - "Possuku-nu Yosikira narathula Sutitu poite irrupna" - Even this dialogue evolues, giving it altother a different meaning towards the end, where Bheema gets trapped inside his own Best Quality which effects not only Bheema but his God Father too. Then the police encounter should speak for itself the state Bheema is in.

So you see the character does grow all the while in the film, and Vikram suits up with the right design for each changeover.

Now we can take anyother movie of your choice. But please don't bring in Maaja or Rajapattai or Kandasamy just for the sake of it. Its not that there isn't anyting to talk about them, but I consider these films don't merit a discussion, atleast I am not giving my time.



Thanks for the response.
Well from whatever little I know , modern acting pretty much has two parts to it.

Getting all the external mannerisms of a character right; getting into inner psyche of the character and being it on screen.

Vikram gets 1 right , he takes the effort to do it. I just do not feel he does part two well enough . Its no shame though.
There was an interview where Al Pacino says he only sometimes gets into that space.

When people do get both right ,acting becomes a bit magical, where even fully knowing what the character to be ,one would still surprised what the actor does with it.

Without it it becomes a thorough,professional performance , but it just doesnt standout so much.

I am not arguing Vikram didnt do his homework and gets the characters mannerisms or emotions .
Its about the aah moments and how the actor can hold the camera . We should know more about the character when we see the actor plays it.
There is no sense of mystery/magic to what he does.Vikram seems to play it as one might expect it and he does it well.
Great acting is more than "If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...it's a duck,"

Any of his movies including the above mentioned have professional performances. They just dont make the average viewer feel he knew more about the character by watching him act than just by reading a script and interpreting it himself.

It could be a great role that triggers that next step. Maybe if he plays someone like Hannibal Lecter where he is told 'don't move. Scare people by being still.'
Would get him to dig deeper if he has it.

mappi
21st September 2014, 02:25 AM
You’re welcome.

So as we see now, the glass is half filled - 'Vikram gets 1 right' - very glad.

I am with you until the part "There is no sense of mystery/magic to what he does", which is supposed to be the empty space in the glass, for the moment.

Lets reverse the psyche part and see :

Assuming Vikram gets that right too, how about looking into the psyche of the audience. Not all characters reach each audience the same way. A grand exemple can be found in this forum itself, where Actor 'A' fans can't even accept the better performence of their rival Actor 'B'. If you come out of this circle, then you see a clear picture of an artist trying to convey something. But still, the people around don't find any similarity in their judgement towards the character that was displayed before them. One finds it extraodinary, the other finds it faulty. So a filmy character, approaches a person how much he welcomes it.

Blaming the Artist alone is not correct is what my point is. Imagine, a guy is busy tweeting while watching the film just to achive his "First on the net" medal by giving regular updates about the film. You should have got an idea how much concentration he has put and what really is running inside him while watching the movie. Then he reviews the movie, calls himself a Critic (actually reviewer are not critics, thats entirely a different subject), and people start to quarrel amoung themselves with the half baked story he publishes, none even take a while to see the real picture. Its going as a chain reaction. He obviously did not cooperate with the artists, where the artist is left at the receiving end, his misplace, which inverts the story altogether.

As you have brought in the right matter, I could see the point you wish to make. A valid one. A performence of an artist could be weighed with certain other aspects too - right from makeup, lighting, costume, attitude of the camera, etc., and most importantly the musical piece that accompanies him. All these combined together acts as a motivation for both the artist and the audience. If any single one is missing, the artist communication gets interrupted and sometimes even misses the whole impact. A small exemple that weighs a lot is : Techinically, when a film maker calls for a close up that dures more than 5 seconds, will distract the audience. 5 seconds could become eternal, its a proven in communications. The eyes have that power which even changes its color according to the signal sent and received. So a film maker can jam this Psyche work practised by the artists. This is where the critics come in and give the deserved ones their respective credits. This breif note is to convey that Vikram alone is not to be blamed.

And also, I accept that not everytime an artist could nail it, they are also humans afterall. Vikram is one amoung the few who minimises the faults and with the cooperation of 'the' audience, excels is rendering what is asked for.

And thanks for sharing the Al Pacino titbit, could I have more information about this interview please, I would like to watch it.



Great acting is more than "If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...it's a duck,"


Good one

OnMyWay
21st September 2014, 05:36 AM
You’re welcome.

So as we see now, the glass is half filled - 'Vikram gets 1 right' - very glad.

I am with you until the part "There is no sense of mystery/magic to what he does", which is supposed to be the empty space in the glass, for the moment.

Lets reverse the psyche part and see :

Assuming Vikram gets that right too, how about looking into the psyche of the audience. Not all characters reach each audience the same way. A grand exemple can be found in this forum itself, where Actor 'A' fans can't even accept the better performence of their rival Actor 'B'. If you come out of this circle, then you see a clear picture of an artist trying to convey something. But still, the people around don't find any similarity in their judgement towards the character that was displayed before them. One finds it extraodinary, the other finds it faulty. So a filmy character, approaches a person how much he welcomes it.

Blaming the Artist alone is not correct is what my point is. Imagine, a guy is busy tweeting while watching the film just to achive his "First on the net" medal by giving regular updates about the film. You should have got an idea how much concentration he has put and what really is running inside him while watching the movie. Then he reviews the movie, calls himself a Critic (actually reviewer are not critics, thats entirely a different subject), and people start to quarrel amoung themselves with the half baked story he publishes, none even take a while to see the real picture. Its going as a chain reaction. He obviously did not cooperate with the artists, where the artist is left at the receiving end, his misplace, which inverts the story altogether.

As you have brought in the right matter, I could see the point you wish to make. A valid one. A performence of an artist could be weighed with certain other aspects too - right from makeup, lighting, costume, attitude of the camera, etc., and most importantly the musical piece that accompanies him. All these combined together acts as a motivation for both the artist and the audience. If any single one is missing, the artist communication gets interrupted and sometimes even misses the whole impact. A small exemple that weighs a lot is : Techinically, when a film maker calls for a close up that dures more than 5 seconds, will distract the audience. 5 seconds could become eternal, its a proven in communications. The eyes have that power which even changes its color according to the signal sent and received. So a film maker can jam this Psyche work practised by the artists. This is where the critics come in and give the deserved ones their respective credits. This breif note is to convey that Vikram alone is not to be blamed.

And also, I accept that not everytime an artist could nail it, they are also humans afterall. Vikram is one amoung the few who minimises the faults and with the cooperation of 'the' audience, excels is rendering what is asked for.

And thanks for sharing the Al Pacino titbit, could I have more information about this interview please, I would like to watch it.



Good one


I couldnt find the whole interview online but he speaks about it in many of his interactions.

This particular snippet I could find at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3IGmK9HJ5Q .

If you could, try to see his full episode on 'Inside the actors studio' ,its very good. I think its from 2006 or so.

And I strongly feel the greatest artists work irrespective of applause,the greatest in anything for that matter.
They just love the process of acting,being someone else . Mohanlal, Mamoooty,Hoffman,Anthony Hopkins anyone of their youtube interviews has their views in this regard.

I agree that camera,music,co-actors ,etc add value to a performance.
But sometimes the craft can just stands out and rises above the material,just cant be missed.
If u see some of the audition tapes some performance just stand out for eg.

Its just that I personally feel that extra intelligence ,perceptive ability is lacking in Vikram.
I have heard Vikram stays in character for his roles ,etc. Its mostly his interpretation that lacks.
To quote a counter example, there is is formulaic malayalam movie called RavanaPrabhu starring Mohanlal.
Absolutely run of the mill stuff with above average writing but there are many scenes where the older Mohanlal character just stands out .
One could feel the weight of failure and his dignified acceptance of destiny in his potrayal.

I am glad you feel that Vikram made you feel he performs at those levels. I havent seen one.
I have seen may thorough, professional performances from Vikram for sure.
I am interested to know what you might consider his best work . I would like to watch it .
Till then I guess we can agree to disagree. Anyways my opinion is just as subjective as anyone else's and just as irrelevant in the larger scheme of things.

Arvind Srinivasan
21st September 2014, 07:30 AM
Firstly, I have got to appreciate Mappi and OnMyWay for the wonderful posts. Here is my two cents on the discussion.

Acting in general can be seperated into two- Presentation and Representation. The Representational actor deliberately chooses to imitate or illustrate the character’s behavior while the Presentational actor attempts this through a use of himself, through an understanding of himself and consequently an understanding of the character he is portraying. The Representational actor finds a form based on an objective result for the character, which he then carefully watches as he executes it while This has been very vivdly explained in Uta Hagen's book- Respect for Acting. Each one has its own clear cut USPs. It is clearly the representational acting that makes the audience sit up, take notice, hoot and clap.The presentational acting is more more mellow in comparison to the former but clearly infuses the much needed subtlety, restraint to the performance.

Traditionally,TFI's comprised more of Representational performances. Sivaji's majestic performance onscreen are major examples. But even in those times of theatrics, there have been performances that have infused the much needed subtlety- a Ranga Rao performace is a good example be it any role. In modern times however, this whole concept has been miscontrued, butchered and overused and that speaks of the quality of acting that's present onscreen.

Of all actors today, very few have balanced both aspects well. Sivaji and Kamal come to mind as actors who had the mastery of both. Muthal Mariyathai is a good example of his presentational acting skills. Kamal's experiences in Malayalam cinema definitely brought the much needed subtleties to his acting, the ironing out of the rough edges from his teenage theatre experience.

Vikram is probably the only actor in Tamil Cinema nowadays to have come close to sharing the stage with the above two interms of talent, the effort and dedication put into each role. He's pulled off highly representational ones onscreen as seen in Sethu, Anniyan, Pithamagan and probably in I but is yet to shine in one that brings in the presentational aspect. Probably that's the reason as to why he comes across as a difficult actor to watch and appreciate. You know he is acting his heart out, tooth and nail but its sometimes hard to ignore the fact that the acting is just skin deep and the much needed soul is missing. Here is where the presentational skills of an actor come to the fore and this is why no one, not even an actor of Vikram's caliber and dediction can match the above two that I have mentioned. Conversely If we were to discuss the modern definition of acting which is 'Living truthfully under imaginary circumstances' as popularised by Sanford Meisner, I doubt if any of Vikram's performances had hit the bulls eye. They've been entertaining for sure, but once the dust has settled you only see an actor trying to live out the character when not living it actually.

Mahen
21st September 2014, 11:32 AM
King back on top..chinna pasagala..yaar kitte :lol2:
https://twitter.com/SonyMusicSouth/status/513566845886930944

Siv.S
21st September 2014, 11:48 AM
King back on top..chinna pasagala..yaar kitte :lol2:
https://twitter.com/SonyMusicSouth/status/513566845886930944
:huh: he was not there only for couple of hours on 18th.

faithiu11
21st September 2014, 01:01 PM
Arr is best no doubt and a celebrated music composer across india..so not a big deal for him to stay top in I tunes...wat anirudh achieved in this short span is quite remarkable and laudable to be top even for some hours....intha chinna pasangala dialogue yellam chumma manasae thethikathan....oru vela appadi iruntha antha chinna payana ivalo periya padathuku pada ARR kuptrukamattar

A.ANAND
21st September 2014, 01:24 PM
manasa thethikka ithala onnum illa praboo sir,athuthane unnmai..irunthalum aniruth engga thalaivaru-ikku chella payyan vera..ellam namma payathan nalla valarathume.

faithiu11
21st September 2014, 01:30 PM
Anand sir naan yenna solla varana anirudh ha ARR kuda compare panradhu seri illa...anirudh succeeded in his own way ...bang bang ,happy new year albums thandi ARR Ku appuram namba alu oruthar irukarthu kandipa periya vishayam than

OnMyWay
21st September 2014, 01:39 PM
Firstly, I have got to appreciate Mappi and OnMyWay for the wonderful posts. Here is my two cents on the discussion.

Acting in general can be seperated into two- Presentation and Representation. The Representational actor deliberately chooses to imitate or illustrate the character’s behavior while the Presentational actor attempts this through a use of himself, through an understanding of himself and consequently an understanding of the character he is portraying. The Representational actor finds a form based on an objective result for the character, which he then carefully watches as he executes it while This has been very vivdly explained in Uta Hagen's book- Respect for Acting. Each one has its own clear cut USPs. It is clearly the representational acting that makes the audience sit up, take notice, hoot and clap.The presentational acting is more more mellow in comparison to the former but clearly infuses the much needed subtlety, restraint to the performance.

Traditionally,TFI's comprised more of Representational performances. Sivaji's majestic performance onscreen are major examples. But even in those times of theatrics, there have been performances that have infused the much needed subtlety- a Ranga Rao performace is a good example be it any role. In modern times however, this whole concept has been miscontrued, butchered and overused and that speaks of the quality of acting that's present onscreen.

Of all actors today, very few have balanced both aspects well. Sivaji and Kamal come to mind as actors who had the mastery of both. Muthal Mariyathai is a good example of his presentational acting skills. Kamal's experiences in Malayalam cinema definitely brought the much needed subtleties to his acting, the ironing out of the rough edges from his teenage theatre experience.

Vikram is probably the only actor in Tamil Cinema nowadays to have come close to sharing the stage with the above two interms of talent, the effort and dedication put into each role. He's pulled off highly representational ones onscreen as seen in Sethu, Anniyan, Pithamagan and probably in I but is yet to shine in one that brings in the presentational aspect. Probably that's the reason as to why he comes across as a difficult actor to watch and appreciate. You know he is acting his heart out, tooth and nail but its sometimes hard to ignore the fact that the acting is just skin deep and the much needed soul is missing. Here is where the presentational skills of an actor come to the fore and this is why no one, not even an actor of Vikram's caliber and dediction can match the above two that I have mentioned. Conversely If we were to discuss the modern definition of acting which is 'Living truthfully under imaginary circumstances' as popularised by Sanford Meisner, I doubt if any of Vikram's performances had hit the bulls eye. They've been entertaining for sure, but once the dust has settled you only see an actor trying to live out the character when not living it actually.


Thanks for the post. And special thanks for bringing Ranga Rao's name into the discussion. total respect to the man.

Mahen
21st September 2014, 03:07 PM
Arr is best no doubt and a celebrated music composer across india..so not a big deal for him to stay top in I tunes...wat anirudh achieved in this short span is quite remarkable and laudable to be top even for some hours....intha chinna pasangala dialogue yellam chumma manasae thethikathan....oru vela appadi iruntha antha chinna payana ivalo periya padathuku pada ARR kuptrukamattar
nothing against anirudh..VIP no 1 iruntha kuda im ok because there were some good songs in it..but Kathi was bad..the album became no 1 because of Vijay..DSP music potta kuda it would have been no 1..so i couldnt digest the fact KAthi was above I for a few days..

Mahen
21st September 2014, 03:08 PM
:huh: he was not there only for couple of hours on 18th.

few days bro...

Mahen
21st September 2014, 03:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDM00oJiyIQ&feature=youtu.be

Eppo ?

faithiu11
21st September 2014, 04:30 PM
nothing against anirudh..VIP no 1 iruntha kuda im ok because there were some good songs in it..but Kathi was bad..the album became no 1 because of Vijay..DSP music potta kuda it would have been no 1..so i couldnt digest the fact KAthi was above I for a few days..bad ha...right vidunga...

Russellmvr
21st September 2014, 04:31 PM
nothing against anirudh..VIP no 1 iruntha kuda im ok because there were some good songs in it..but Kathi was bad..the album became no 1 because of Vijay..DSP music potta kuda it would have been no 1..so i couldnt digest the fact KAthi was above I for a few days..

Neenga nalla illainu ninaikirathu unka thani padda vishayam... we get that point. Athukaka entha vithathilum thaguthi or interest illamal oru padam first-a vara mudiyathu.. :-)

Mr.GreyShirt
21st September 2014, 05:01 PM
I just noticed the spelling mistake on the "I" audio launch poster. Hard to believe Shankar would make such simple mistake like that.

faithiu11
21st September 2014, 05:05 PM
Appadi ippadi kutti kazhichi partha yellarum oru vagayil rasiga kunjugal than pola when comes to their favourites

Mahen
21st September 2014, 05:37 PM
http://www.saharasamay.com/pics/article/2014_09_20_10_22_02_i-movie-4.jpg

http://www.saharasamay.com/pics/article/2014_09_20_10_22_02_i-movie-3.jpg

http://www.saharasamay.com/pics/article/2014_09_20_10_22_00_i-movie.jpg

http://www.saharasamay.com/pics/article/2014_09_20_10_22_05_i-movie-9.jpg

sakthii
21st September 2014, 08:56 PM
I feel Anirudh music has IRs tunes.. his violin and flute and the melody bit in songs and background.. cant avoid the feel of hearing it somewhere..and IR naturally comes.. i am not great person in music.. i cant note particular songs or BGM of IRs with Aniruth.. but sure he brings in IRs touch...in almost 75% of his songs and BGM. which surprisingly i cant see with Yuvan. not sure where i am the only person who get that feeling !!

Pras
22nd September 2014, 01:04 PM
I just noticed the spelling mistake on the "I" audio launch poster. Hard to believe Shankar would make such simple mistake like that.
hard to believe that you didn't understand the meaning of that monster-ous mistake ;-)

Ramkumar86
22nd September 2014, 01:53 PM
I feel Anirudh music has IRs tunes.. his violin and flute and the melody bit in songs and background.. cant avoid the feel of hearing it somewhere..and IR naturally comes.. i am not great person in music.. i cant note particular songs or BGM of IRs with Aniruth.. but sure he brings in IRs touch...in almost 75% of his songs and BGM. which surprisingly i cant see with Yuvan. not sure where i am the only person who get that feeling !!

+1. Yaar petra magano is one example.

ajaybaskar
22nd September 2014, 02:15 PM
இதுக்கும் ஐ'க்கும் என்ன சம்பந்தம்?

elsaen11
22nd September 2014, 02:51 PM
Neenga nalla illainu ninaikirathu unka thani padda vishayam... we get that point. Athukaka entha vithathilum thaguthi or interest illamal oru padam first-a vara mudiyathu.. :-)

Vidunga, he is completely into I fever. Kaththi songs not goodnu ivar thaan sollittu irukaar

Mr.GreyShirt
22nd September 2014, 05:12 PM
hard to believe that you didn't understand the meaning of that monster-ous mistake ;-)

I guess I still don't. Care to explain?

Mahen
22nd September 2014, 06:48 PM
I feel Anirudh music has IRs tunes.. his violin and flute and the melody bit in songs and background.. cant avoid the feel of hearing it somewhere..and IR naturally comes.. i am not great person in music.. i cant note particular songs or BGM of IRs with Aniruth.. but sure he brings in IRs touch...in almost 75% of his songs and BGM. which surprisingly i cant see with Yuvan. not sure where i am the only person who get that feeling !!
how is it related to this thread? :confused2:


Vidunga, he is completely into I fever. Kaththi songs not goodnu ivar thaan sollittu irukaar
:shock: those raving are mostly Vijay fans....neutral ones never bothered listening to Kathi..generally music lovers dont like anirudh AFAIK..

Pras
22nd September 2014, 06:52 PM
I guess I still don't. Care to explain?

hmm ... check the "best" here ...

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/oXGZeW4Y8SE/0.jpg

elsaen11
22nd September 2014, 07:01 PM
:shock: those raving are mostly Vijay fans....neutral ones never bothered listening to Kathi..generally music lovers dont like anirudh AFAIK..

Oh you found neutrals dont care with the help of ratings in itunes? If you dont mind can you teach me this wonderful talent you have got please :)

Thats why all his 6 albums were big hit? :lol2:

paranitharan
22nd September 2014, 07:08 PM
I feel Anirudh music has IRs tunes.. his violin and flute and the melody bit in songs and background.. cant avoid the feel of hearing it somewhere..and IR naturally comes.. i am not great person in music.. i cant note particular songs or BGM of IRs with Aniruth.. but sure he brings in IRs touch...in almost 75% of his songs and BGM. which surprisingly i cant see with Yuvan. not sure where i am the only person who get that feeling !!

yes bro. You are not alone. I felt that too.

paranitharan
22nd September 2014, 07:10 PM
how is it related to this thread? :confused2:


:shock: those raving are mostly Vijay fans....neutral ones never bothered listening to Kathi..generally music lovers dont like anirudh AFAIK..

How is it relevant nu kettutu, kaththi paththi pesiturukkiringa. IR'nu sonnathu thaan thappu pola

Mahen
22nd September 2014, 07:29 PM
Oh you found neutrals dont care with the help of ratings in itunes? If you dont mind can you teach me this wonderful talent you have got please :)

Thats why all his 6 albums were big hit? :lol2:
thats news to me..dont remember seeing his albums no 1 on i tunes..i may be wrong

Pras
22nd September 2014, 07:41 PM
thats news to me..dont remember seeing his albums no 1 on i tunes..i may be wrong

big hit has nothing to have with being number 1 on itunes ;)

why this kolaveri ... we all know about the impact it made

with sivakarthikeyan, he has given only hit songs : ethir neechal and maan karate

vanakkam chennai had nothing in it but for aniruth's songs ... osakka is the best aniruth's song till date i think

and now VIP ... kaththi ...

faithiu11
22nd September 2014, 07:41 PM
thats news to me..dont remember seeing his albums no 1 on i tunes..i may be wrong
Neenga solra padi partha kadal,mariyan,I mattum than hit kumki yellam flop album nu solluvinga pola...at least kolaveri ya vathu hit ha athuvum flop ha...

elsaen11
22nd September 2014, 08:37 PM
big hit has nothing to have with being number 1 on itunes ;)

why this kolaveri ... we all know about the impact it made

with sivakarthikeyan, he has given only hit songs : ethir neechal and maan karate

vanakkam chennai had nothing in it but for aniruth's songs ... osakka is the best aniruth's song till date i think

and now VIP ... kaththi ...

Leave it . Looks like thideer itunes fans :lol:

elsaen11
22nd September 2014, 08:38 PM
thats news to me..dont remember seeing his albums no 1 on i tunes..i may be wrong

is it? May be coz u r not in TN. All his albums were like every 1hr feed in FM's.

Mahen
22nd September 2014, 08:44 PM
:banghead: i know abt 3..im talking abt the rest of his albums..anyway lets get back to I

Mr.GreyShirt
22nd September 2014, 08:45 PM
hmm ... check the "best" here ...

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/oXGZeW4Y8SE/0.jpg

I understand that but generally Monstrous is having an appearance and ugliness of a monster. So I don't understand the wordplay there.

paranitharan
22nd September 2014, 08:45 PM
You ruffled some feathers ;)

Russellmvr
22nd September 2014, 09:50 PM
thats news to me..dont remember seeing his albums no 1 on i tunes..i may be wrong

we are not surprised :-)

uruzalari
22nd September 2014, 10:56 PM
Sreedhar Pillai @sri50 · 40m
#I update- Hindi dubbing rights gets red hot.#Aascar 2 hold a big launch in Mumbai in Oct, trying 4 SylvesterStallone

Mr.GreyShirt
22nd September 2014, 11:01 PM
Sylveser Stallone-ah...

balaajee
23rd September 2014, 01:22 AM
35745million

hattori_hanzo
23rd September 2014, 06:27 AM
Pala dhadavai kettaachu. Sumaar album <<< even Enthiran, which wasn't good either. But Enthiran at least had two good songs - Kaadhal Anukkal & Pudhiya Manidha.

+1 for all these comments:-


Nothing impressive aside from Pookalae and Mersaaliyitten. Big let down after all the hype. Shankar's extraction from ARR continues to dip post Mudhalvan.
Of course, most ARR-ians will hit back saying, innum naariya kekanum, appadi oru mudivu ku varathu. Yet, other MDs when they give avg numbers, they reject.


Pookale, the only song with decent/intelligible lyrics sounds similar to other Rahman songs. When "Hey Ai endraal...azhagu dhaane" starts, it was like pochuda marubadiyum adhey tune'a?


I stopped the song half way through. Can't stand auto-tune.


Just listened to Mersalaayitten the version available in YouTube. Apadiye mersalayitten. I don't think I would listen to it again. First reason - auto tune. Second - lack of melody structure. Third - lyrical quality. Will listen the other songs and get back.


mersalyetten....itha padichavudane....

At present I liked only pookalaey sattru Oiyvedungal....other songs may be good to see in screen as shankar is master crafter for visuals....Lyrics are not impressive which clearly shows the absence of vairamuthu.

"Merasalaayitten"nu onnu ivanga kandupidichittaangalaam. Paattu fulla adhey vaarthai. Kisnaayilu, Kozha Thanni ellaam suththama suit aavala. Vaarthai Panjam!

And "Maatu Kombu mela ava pattaamboochi pola" vandhadhunaala Merasalaayittaaraam....Maattu mudhugukku mela kaakka ukkaandha kooda sorana irukkaadhu sir. Wrong comparison.

Aila has some good music but that kaattu kaththal is annoying. This one & Ladio are slightly better, but nowhere close to ARR's earlier albums.

Ennodu Nee Irundhaal Reprise (female version) is very ordinary. But the other version by Sid Sreeram - Suthama puriyala. Is Sid Sreeram's pronounciation always so bad or is he made to sing like this to suit Vikram's character? Does the character have some issue with speech/vocal chords? Kaa....Trey...! Ulagaaaa....thai...NaanVaa.....ngi... :cry: And what does he say after Thevai Illai???

nickraman
23rd September 2014, 06:47 AM
This Sid Sriram should stop and listen to his singing before getting offers in Tamil. So labored and plastic.

Arragesh
23rd September 2014, 07:52 AM
Sharing thoughts on I album
Did not want to right anything about songs on the first listen so took time listened more time and writing this

Merasalayitaen - good one but yeah heavy use of auto tune which made it sound like GVP/Taman songs but nevertheless may top chartbusters

Pookalae - song of the album
Actually a very normal tune but singers made it sound great

Ladio/aila - they sound ok may be they are visual songs

Ennodu nee irundhal - easily one of the best songs of this year , what a feel
That's more like ARR

Cinemarasigan
23rd September 2014, 09:45 AM
Sreedhar Pillai @sri50 · 40m
#I update- Hindi dubbing rights gets red hot.#Aascar 2 hold a big launch in Mumbai in Oct, trying 4 SylvesterStallone

:roll: தமிழ் ஆடியோ ரிலீசுக்கு அர்னால்ட கூப்பிட்டு பண்ணின அமர்க்களம் ஓயவே இன்னும் ஒரு மாசம் ஆகும் போல.. இப்ப ஸ்டல்லோன் இந்தி ஆடியோ ரிலீஸ் பண்ண போறார்னு பரபரப்பு கிளப்புறாங்க. கொஞ்சம் ஓவராத்தான் போயிக்கிட்டிருக்கு..

Pras
23rd September 2014, 12:32 PM
I understand that but generally Monstrous is having an appearance and ugliness of a monster. So I don't understand the wordplay there.

same feeling here ... innum konjam "effect" kodukkalaam-nu monster-ous-nu tag pannittaanga ... but, monstrous-e vittirukkalaam ...

VinodKumar's
23rd September 2014, 01:16 PM
Koopduradhunu mudivu aana piragu yedhukku amabalingalam ... Oru J lo / Shakira maari aalungala kooptu Ladio paatuku dance poda sonna bayangarama irrukum.

rsubras
23rd September 2014, 01:52 PM
may be for next album Obama (or US president at that time) va koopiduvaanga........

Cinemarasigan
23rd September 2014, 03:35 PM
Koopduradhunu mudivu aana piragu yedhukku amabalingalam ... Oru J lo / Shakira maari aalungala kooptu Ladio paatuku dance poda sonna bayangarama irrukum.

:lol: அட, இது நல்லா இருக்கே.. இந்த யோசனை ஆஸ்கார்-க்கு வரலை பாருங்க.. அடுத்த பெரிய படம் எதுக்காவது ஷகிரா-வை கூப்பிடட்டும்..

A.ANAND
23rd September 2014, 05:07 PM
Pala dhadavai kettaachu. Sumaar album <<< even Enthiran, which wasn't good either. But Enthiran at least had two good songs - Kaadhal Anukkal & Pudhiya Manidha.

+1 for all these comments:-



Pookale, the only song with decent/intelligible lyrics sounds similar to other Rahman songs. When "Hey Ai endraal...azhagu dhaane" starts, it was like pochuda marubadiyum adhey tune'a?






"Merasalaayitten"nu onnu ivanga kandupidichittaangalaam. Paattu fulla adhey vaarthai. Kisnaayilu, Kozha Thanni ellaam suththama suit aavala. Vaarthai Panjam!

And "Maatu Kombu mela ava pattaamboochi pola" vandhadhunaala Merasalaayittaaraam....Maattu mudhugukku mela kaakka ukkaandha kooda sorana irukkaadhu sir. Wrong comparison.

Aila has some good music but that kaattu kaththal is annoying. This one & Ladio are slightly better, but nowhere close to ARR's earlier albums.

Ennodu Nee Irundhaal Reprise (female version) is very ordinary. But the other version by Sid Sreeram - Suthama puriyala. Is Sid Sreeram's pronounciation always so bad or is he made to sing like this to suit Vikram's character? Does the character have some issue with speech/vocal chords? Kaa....Trey...! Ulagaaaa....thai...NaanVaa.....ngi... :cry: And what does he say after Thevai Illai???

OH...bajana group-pudoi!motthama errakki theaterra kilicidungga screen-na..!!!!

faithiu11
23rd September 2014, 05:08 PM
Y still producers not confirming deepavali release...is ARR started background score..?

Cinemarasigan
23rd September 2014, 07:13 PM
ஒரு பாடலுக்கான படப்பிடிப்பு இன்னும் நடந்து கொண்டிருக்கிறது... தீபாவளிக்கு வருவது சந்தேகம் தான். அநேகமாக நவம்பர் ரிலீஸ் ..

ajaybaskar
23rd September 2014, 07:15 PM
Nov 7th release is what I heard

Mahen
23rd September 2014, 07:26 PM
Opera=Kaatu kathal :clap: Kaa..trey=speech/vocal issues :clap: so u expect chaste tamil? eh hello all these are different styles of singing..western particularly..go listen to some engish rock ballads/operas..theres a certain style in singing those genres
if you cant adapt, go back to Megha

paranitharan
23rd September 2014, 07:33 PM
Pala dhadavai kettaachu. Sumaar album <<< even Enthiran, which wasn't good either. But Enthiran at least had two good songs - Kaadhal Anukkal & Pudhiya Manidha.

+1 for all these comments:-



Pookale, the only song with decent/intelligible lyrics sounds similar to other Rahman songs. When "Hey Ai endraal...azhagu dhaane" starts, it was like pochuda marubadiyum adhey tune'a?






"Merasalaayitten"nu onnu ivanga kandupidichittaangalaam. Paattu fulla adhey vaarthai. Kisnaayilu, Kozha Thanni ellaam suththama suit aavala. Vaarthai Panjam!

And "Maatu Kombu mela ava pattaamboochi pola" vandhadhunaala Merasalaayittaaraam....Maattu mudhugukku mela kaakka ukkaandha kooda sorana irukkaadhu sir. Wrong comparison.

Aila has some good music but that kaattu kaththal is annoying. This one & Ladio are slightly better, but nowhere close to ARR's earlier albums.

Ennodu Nee Irundhaal Reprise (female version) is very ordinary. But the other version by Sid Sreeram - Suthama puriyala. Is Sid Sreeram's pronounciation always so bad or is he made to sing like this to suit Vikram's character? Does the character have some issue with speech/vocal chords? Kaa....Trey...! Ulagaaaa....thai...NaanVaa.....ngi... :cry: And what does he say after Thevai Illai???
:thumbsup: ithellaam sollanum polairukku but antha groupkitta argue pannitu irukka mudiyathunu vittuten

A.ANAND
23rd September 2014, 09:32 PM
recently vantha entha album-mum pidikala,athanala going back to palaya kulebagavaali movie-la irunthu 'ek dhok theen'song ketten appadiye merasalayitten..!

enna perfium pottu adichalum burning vaada pogathuda kanna..kattukitta motha vitthayum erakuda kanna group photo-voda!

A.ANAND
23rd September 2014, 09:35 PM
We prove why 'I' is the current toast of the town
Sep 22, 2014

The songs of ‘I’ that were released last Monday, the 15th of September, are an instant hit. The album topped the iTunes chart within hours of its release and it continues to top the chart even now, which shows the response that this A.R.Rahman musical is receiving all over the country.


The Chennai radiowaves’ current favourite is the ‘Mersalaayiten’ song from ‘I’. It is currently the most played song considering the last 7 days, according to Aircheck reports.


As expected, the other numbers from the album have also found a place on the charts. The order of popularity of the songs in 'I' is as follows.


1. Mersalaayiten


2. Pookkalae Sattru Oyivedungal


3. Ennodu Nee Irundhaal


4. Aila Aila


5. Ladio

http://behindwoods.com/tamil-movies-cinema-news-14/arrahman-musical-rules-the-roost.html

hattori_hanzo
23rd September 2014, 10:13 PM
eh hello all these are different styles of singing..western particularly
Saari saar. Theriyama pochu.
If I want to hear an opera, I will do it. Adhu PIDIKKAADHU-ndradhunaale thaane THAMIZH paattu kekkaren. I'm sorry I'm not used to hearing opera and can't cultivate a liking for that style by hearing one song. I don't consider it soothing to my ears. It was there in 'Konjum Nilavu' too but somehow it blended well with the rest of the song. Here, its just Kaatu Kaththal.


Kaa....Trey...! Ulagaaaa....thai...NaanVaa.....ngi...=speech/vocal issues
Of course, yes. If you call this a style, I guess this style must have started with Mudhalvane, Vane, Vane, Vane, which was actually quite good & peppy. Here its just annoying. But I still think Vikram's character has certain limitations and this singer has been asked to adapt to it.


go listen to some engish rock ballads/operas
Why?:huh:


if you cant adapt, go back to Megha
Superங்க நீங்க. இது பிடிக்கலைன்னா அதுன்னு நிறைய options குடுக்குறீங்க. Good salesman.

By the way,

so u expect chaste tamil?
No. But I dont want தா....மிழ்.,,,ழ்பா...ட்டு either.

hattori_hanzo
23rd September 2014, 10:20 PM
OH...bajana group-pudoi!motthama errakki theaterra kilicidungga screen-na..!!!!

ஷங்கர் மேல ரொம்ப நம்பிக்கை இருக்கு. இது வரைக்கும் அவர் படம் எதுவும் பிடிக்காம போனதில்ல. And I'm sure the picturization of songs will be good enough to forget the glitches observed when listening to them.

afopevekidezi
23rd September 2014, 11:07 PM
Ennodu Nee Irundhaal Reprise (female version) is very ordinary. But the other version by Sid Sreeram - Suthama puriyala. Is Sid Sreeram's pronounciation always so bad or is he made to sing like this to suit Vikram's character? Does the character have some issue with speech/vocal chords? Kaa....Trey...! Ulagaaaa....thai...NaanVaa.....ngi... :cry: And what does he say after Thevai Illai???

Based on the lyrics, 'Ennai naan yaar endrum sonaalum puriyathu, en kaathal nee endru yaarukkum theriyadhu' so the situation seems - the song is sung by the 'Koonan' character. In that case after kidnapping her as in the trailer. So its sung like someone having some limitation to sing/talk (vaai kolaral). Just my two cents.

hattori_hanzo
23rd September 2014, 11:13 PM
Based on the lyrics, 'Ennai naan yaar endrum sonaalum puriyathu, en kaathal nee endru yaarukkum theriyadhu' so the situation seems - the song is sung by the 'Koonan' character. In that case after kidnapping her as in the trailer. So its sung like someone having some limitation to sing/talk (vaai kolaral). Just my two cents.

Thats the exact word :-) If it is intentional, then that's something never heard before in TFI. Quite a novel attempt.

aceqoxim
23rd September 2014, 11:16 PM
Very average album imo. ARR lost his mojo some ten years back. The decent reviews the album seems to be getting tho is only because of the brand name ARR (established in the 90's & detoriating since). IMVHO, had this album been released under any other MD's name, nobody would have given it a second listen.

venkkiram
23rd September 2014, 11:23 PM
From Milliblog fame Karthik

I (Music review), Tamil – A R Rahman

http://itwofs.com/milliblog/2014/09/15/i-music-review-tamil-a-r-rahman/

Fans are fuming at comments section.

nickraman
24th September 2014, 06:35 AM
And I'm sure the picturization of songs will be good enough to forget the glitches observed when listening to them.

Vivek comedy Run-lendhu nyabagam varathu (with some context changes) "Ippo ellam paatu seriilla, makkal velliye dum adikiran illa fb,twitter status/live commentary podran."

Nalla irunda seri. But if audio could not salvage, how can we sit through visuals??

Anban
24th September 2014, 12:08 PM
Sidd Sriram .. :lol:

I have coined a new term "Peter Paappaans" .. applies to many of ARR fans too ..

rsubras
24th September 2014, 01:08 PM
Very average album imo. ARR lost his mojo some ten years back. The decent reviews the album seems to be getting tho is only because of the brand name ARR (established in the 90's & detoriating since). IMVHO, had this album been released under any other MD's name, nobody would have given it a second listen.

ARR always would want to dare and takes conscious attempt to avoid being repetitive (using the same style)....... no wonder ppl who liked a particular time period of Rahman's music say that Rahman lost his mojo

balaajee
24th September 2014, 01:59 PM
ஆஸ்கர் விருது விழாவை விஞ்சியது 'ஐ' நிகழ்ச்சி: தயாரிப்பாளருக்கு அர்னால்டு கடிதம் - hindu

சென்னையில் நடைபெற்ற 'ஐ' பட இசை வெளியீட்டு விழா, ஆஸ்கர் விருது வழங்கும் விழாவைக் காட்டிலும் சிறப்பாக இருந்தது என்று ஹாலிவுட் நடிகர் அர்னால்டு ஸ்வாசநேக்கர் கூறியுள்ளார். இது தொடர்பாக, 'ஐ' படத்தின் தயாரிப்பாளர் 'ஆஸ்கர்' ரவிச்சந்திரனுக்கு அர்னால்டு அனுப்பிய கடிதத்தின் விவரம்:

"எனது சென்னை பயணத்தை வெற்றிகரமாக மாற்ற நீங்கள் செய்த அத்தனை முயற்சிகளுக்கும் நன்றி.

'ஐ' பட இசை வெளியீட்டில் ஓர் அங்கமாக நான் இருந்ததற்கு பெருமையடைகிறேன். நீங்களும், உங்கள் குழுவும், 'ஐ' போன்ற ஒரு திரைப்படத்தை தயாரித்ததோடு மட்டுமல்லாமல், இப்படிப்பட்ட ஒரு நிகழ்ச்சியை ஏற்பாடு செய்ததற்கு அதிகம் பாராட்டப்படவேண்டியவர்கள்.

நான் கலந்துகொண்டதில் மிகச் சிறந்த நிகழ்ச்சி இது. நான் அங்கு வந்திறங்கிய நொடியிலிருந்து என்னைக் கவனித்துக் கொண்ட விதத்தில் வியக்க வைத்துவிட்டீர்கள்.
அருமையான தங்கும் இடம், சுவையான உணவு என அனைத்தும் கச்சிதமாக இருந்தது. இதற்கெல்லாம் மகுடம் வைத்தாற் போல இசை வெளியீடு நடந்தது. நான், ஆஸ்கர் விருது வழங்கும் விழாவில் கலந்து கொண்டிருக்கிறேன், கோல்டன் குளோப் விருது வழங்கும் விழாவை பார்த்திருக்கிறேன். ஆனால், ஒரு நிகழ்ச்சியை எப்படி நடத்த வேண்டும் என அவர்கள் உங்களிடமிருந்து கற்றுக் கொள்ளலாம்.

நிகழ்ச்சி தங்கு தடையின்றி நடந்தது. அங்கிருந்த உற்சாகம், ஒட்டு மொத்த இந்தியாவுக்கும் தேவையான உத்வேகத்தைத் தருமளவு இருந்தது. பாடி பில்டர்களை மேடையேற்றியது சிறப்பு. அவர்களது நிகழ்ச்சி முடிந்ததும் என்னால் மேடையேறுவதை தடுக்க முடியவில்லை. ஏனென்றால் அதுதான் நான் மேடையேற சிறந்த தருணமாக நினைத்தேன்.

உங்கள் விருந்தோம்பலுக்கு மீண்டும் நன்றி. உங்களுடன் இணைந்து மீண்டும் பணியாற்றும் நாளை எதிர்நோக்குகிறேன்" என்று அந்தக் கடித்தில் அர்னால்டு கூறியுள்ளார்.

ecureuhapis
24th September 2014, 02:51 PM
etha ethayo leak pandranunga.. intha letter-ayum leak pannirukalam.

VinodKumar's
24th September 2014, 03:03 PM
:lol:.

aceqoxim
24th September 2014, 03:05 PM
ARR always would want to dare and takes conscious attempt to avoid being repetitive (using the same style)....... no wonder ppl who liked a particular time period of Rahman's music say that Rahman lost his mojo

When I say he lost his mojo some years back, I mean his music stopped being pleasant to my ears. I'm sure he was experimenting with different styles back then too. My opinion doesn't have to offend you though (because that all it is, an opinion & not a fact). Enjoy the album:))

Anban
24th September 2014, 04:41 PM
Processed food , processed food thaan .. thiruppi thiruppi saappitomna udambukku nallathilla ..

I didnt want to listen to this album .. Car-la pogumbothu FM-la pottutaannunga .. ellaathayum kettaachu.. i mean, kaathula vizhunthuduchu.. its for peters .. peter paappaans will like it ... thats all ..

even, the peter-less album Kaaviyathalaivan sounds very dull and unlikeable...

2 songs in Kochadaiyaan are OK ...

Anban
24th September 2014, 04:53 PM
just because he got 2 oscars, one cant blindly praise mediocre stuff .. marketing and advertising doesnt work always ..

Cinemarasigan
24th September 2014, 05:18 PM
ARR always would want to dare and takes conscious attempt to avoid being repetitive (using the same style)....... no wonder ppl who liked a particular time period of Rahman's music say that Rahman lost his mojo

Trying out new tunes and different compositions are always welcome. Somehow his recent tamil albums are not satisfying Tamil audience. We hardly get to hear the songs after 3 or 4 months. But we still hear and enjoy his albums of 90's.

VinodKumar's
24th September 2014, 05:24 PM
We hardly get to hear the songs after 3 or 4 months. But we still hear and enjoy his albums of 90's.

+ infinity. Kadhalar Dhinam, Kadhal Desam, Uyirae, Bombay, Indian, Jeans, Kadhalan etc are >>> ATM, SAkkarakatti, Sivaji, Endhiran, Ravanan, Kadal etc ..

Heard only Mersalayitaen and Ladio in I. Both sounds good for now. Kaaviya Thalaivan innum ketkavae illa.

venkkiram
24th September 2014, 05:45 PM
@Rsubras.. "Avoid being repetitive " - good coinage. But IMO.. "Ennodu née Irunthaal" as I mentioned here reminds me 90s Bryan Adams and the song structure seems to be typical pop format. Ladiyo reminds many female pop albums songs. I won't blame ARR alone for this. Director's fault also. Pookkale brings me "Kadhal Anukkal". I long for the collaboration with GVM or Rajeev Menon once again. Those guys have some musical sense to extract the best from ARR.

Mahen
24th September 2014, 05:53 PM
Trying out new tunes and different compositions are always welcome. Somehow his recent tamil albums are not satisfying Tamil audience. We hardly get to hear the songs after 3 or 4 months. But we still hear and enjoy his albums of 90's.
applies to all mds including ARR..i admit that all the new songs now cant last long..i get bored quite fast :)

Cinemarasigan
24th September 2014, 06:08 PM
applies to all mds including ARR..i admit that all the new songs now cant last long..i get bored quite fast :)

Here is the point, you mean to say then there is no difference between ARR and the rest.. :)

Cinemarasigan
24th September 2014, 06:18 PM
+ infinity. Kadhalar Dhinam, Kadhal Desam, Uyirae, Bombay, Indian, Jeans, Kadhalan etc are >>> ATM, SAkkarakatti, Sivaji, Endhiran, Ravanan, Kadal etc ..



Kadhalar Dhinam
ரோஜா.... ரோஜா...
&
காதலெனும் தேர்வெழுதி..... evergreen tunes...

இந்த பாடல்கள் எல்லாம் எத்தனை ஆயிரம் முறை கேட்ட்ருப்போம் ..... தேன் வந்து பாயுது காதினிலே ரகம்...

ajaybaskar
24th September 2014, 06:33 PM
Some people have been saying ARR has lost touch since Roja. Let me leave them aside for now. For others who genuinely believe he sounds different/not attractive like his pre 2000 era days, yes, he has evolved and thats why he is still in the race. Haven't we seen giants, who refused to evolve, being thrown out mercilessly?

I can't comment for others but as someone who has followed him for years now, I can say that he continues to surprise me with every new album of his and I believe most Rahmaniacs are with me in this. Yes, there were few duds like LHDD too in the recent past, like Sachin's rare ducks. But albums like Maryan,Kadal,KT and I have impressed me like any ARR album of the past.

And for people who complain about the westernness in ARR albums, I wonder whether they were in coma for the last 22 years. His music has more of western influence and every sane music follower knows it. Why this sudden liking for nativity, god only knows.

rsubras
24th September 2014, 06:49 PM
When I say he lost his mojo some years back, I mean his music stopped being pleasant to my ears. I'm sure he was experimenting with different styles back then too. My opinion doesn't have to offend you though (because that all it is, an opinion & not a fact). Enjoy the album:))


Trying out new tunes and different compositions are always welcome. Somehow his recent tamil albums are not satisfying Tamil audience. We hardly get to hear the songs after 3 or 4 months. But we still hear and enjoy his albums of 90's.

not offended at all Stardust....... why should I? I was also telling my opinion only........ you are enjoying that time period of Rahman....... some ppl enjoy only the pre-2000 period of Rahman...... but Rahman, I would like to believe (I am not a musical expert) always continue to evolve....

And CR, give it a try...just because you didn't like a song at the time of its release, don't give up on that........ I believe you would love when you hear Rahman's songs after the dust has settled (when film is taken off theatre and FM / TV channels stop relaying it continuously)........ it is a personal experience though......... some of Rahman's underrated songs, which I hated hearing at first made me go wow after few years ................ to just give a sample come on come on oh kamatchi and samba samba (lovebirds)

elsaen11
24th September 2014, 06:51 PM
Expecting nativity song in movie like AI :lol2: . May be they want amy jackson to sing vilu paatu in opera :wink:
Peternu pesaravangellam ARR oda standa thirumbi paarunga... Innum sila music directorgal rap/trendy songs poda kathukittu irukanga :lol:

Anban
24th September 2014, 06:53 PM
its not nativity .. manasula otta maattenguthu .. Adiyea from Kadal is a down right kuppai song.. athukkelaam hype.. siddsriram-nu oru peter-a tamil paattu paada vaikkurathey kuttram ..

rsubras
24th September 2014, 06:55 PM
Kadhalar Dhinam
ரோஜா.... ரோஜா...
&
காதலெனும் தேர்வெழுதி..... evergreen tunes...

இந்த பாடல்கள் எல்லாம் எத்தனை ஆயிரம் முறை கேட்ட்ருப்போம் ..... தேன் வந்து பாயுது காதினிலே ரகம்...


Whenever you happen to travel alone with a peaceful mind (i.e with no pre-emptive thoughts about an album) try listening to Kadal, Ravanan, ATM, Mariyaan, Sakkarakatti et.al.............you will definitely be surprised......

elsaen11
24th September 2014, 06:56 PM
Adiyae is a kuppai song? :shock: I end my conversation :wave:

rsubras
24th September 2014, 06:57 PM
its not nativity .. manasula otta maattenguthu .. Adiyea from Kadal is a down right kuppai song.. athukkelaam hype.. siddsriram-nu oru peter-a tamil paattu paada vaikkurathey kuttram ..

saringa sir, Adiye, Oru koodai sunlight maathiri lam songs podama, pallavi, saranam 1, pallavi repeat, saranam 2, pallavi repeat, closure.. ippadi template oda mattum song potta peter illai nu othupeengala...

rsubras
24th September 2014, 07:00 PM
its not nativity .. manasula otta maattenguthu .. Adiyea from Kadal is a down right kuppai song.. athukkelaam hype.. siddsriram-nu oru peter-a tamil paattu paada vaikkurathey kuttram ..

<< sorry for the typical fanboy reply... I don't mean to, just that I cant resist it >>

appadi paartha, ppl can tell the same about movies like Anbey Sivam, Vishwaroopam, Hey ram etc.... enna padam eduthirukanga, manasula ottave maatenguthu..... ippadi sollite polaam oruthara pidikkalaena

elsaen11
24th September 2014, 07:04 PM
Vishwaroopam evan endru nenaithai song ellam sema nativity... Semaya ottuchu.... :clap:

Mahen
24th September 2014, 07:12 PM
Here is the point, you mean to say then there is no difference between ARR and the rest.. :)

no :) ARR has changed his style of composing and the rest of mds are also trying to be different..that doesnt mean ARR=the rest.. :) honestly i missed the old ARR but i have adapted and absolutely love his songs now too..just that it doesnt last for long in my playlist..

paranitharan
24th September 2014, 07:21 PM
If you need to adapt to enjoy songs then you are just being fanboy. If you can adapt, you will enjoy the music from all MDs. Naanga adapt pannalainu solrathu director Ram pesurra maathiri irukku

Mahen
24th September 2014, 07:31 PM
And for people who complain about the westernness in ARR albums, I wonder whether they were in coma for the last 22 years. His music has more of western influence and every sane music follower knows it. Why this sudden liking for nativity, god only knows.

+1..intha nativity BS has to stop..


its not nativity .. manasula otta maattenguthu .. Adiyea from Kadal is a down right kuppai song.. athukkelaam hype.. siddsriram-nu oru peter-a tamil paattu paada vaikkurathey kuttram ..
:banghead: ARR introduces blues to tamil and this how you react? with this kind of regressive mindset, leave aside music,how you..seri freeya viduvom


Vishwaroopam evan endru nenaithai song ellam sema nativity... Semaya ottuchu.... :clap:
ithu ellam tamil music deepak..just pikcing a few..can list more than 20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6naeTq-5uw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvXc28Dk4Jg

rsubras
24th September 2014, 07:33 PM
no :) ARR has changed his style of composing and the rest of mds are also trying to be different..that doesnt mean ARR=the rest.. :) honestly i missed the old ARR but i have adapted and absolutely love his songs now too..just that it doesnt last for long in my playlist..

Mahen..etho kadamaikku nu neenga ARR songs enjoy panra maathiri irukku :) did you listen to Bose, Mariyaan, Water to name a few (listing only the underrated albums)

Mahen
24th September 2014, 07:41 PM
Mahen..etho kadamaikku nu neenga ARR songs enjoy panra maathiri irukku :) did you listen to Bose, Mariyaan, Water to name a few (listing only the underrated albums)
Noooo..oh yes mariyan and rajhma were beautiful, and that albums have that old ARR touch a little..KAaaiya thailavan was quite boring for me..no match to Iruvar..Kadal was awesome..
Water/Bose cant really remember the music :oops:

rsubras
24th September 2014, 07:47 PM
Bose is simply out of the world....... and Water though I haven't heard much is the only album where Rahman has given himself 10/10 if I am right......... try hearing those with an open mind

arulraj
24th September 2014, 08:03 PM
Bose .......is it movie or ...?

venkkiram
24th September 2014, 08:25 PM
பாடலாக்கத்தில் காட்சி சூழலுக்கு வேண்டிய உணர்வை வெளிப்படுத்தணும். அப்படிப்பட்ட வகையில் அமைக்கப்பட்ட பாடல்கள் பல நேரங்களில் இயக்குனரின் பக்குமில்லாமல் காரணமாக மலிவான உணர்ச்சிகளைக் கொண்ட காட்சிகளுக்கு பயன்படுத்தப் பட்டிருக்கும். இதற்கு எதிராகவும் சில நேரம் நடக்கும். காட்சிகள் உணர்வோடும், பாடலில் அதற்கு ஈடுகொடுக்கும் உணர்வு இல்லாமலும் இருக்கும். நல்ல/தேர்ந்த இசையமைப்பாளர்கள் அமைக்கும் பாடல்கள் காலம் கடந்தும் நிற்பது பாடலுக்கு ஏற்ற சரியான உணர்வுகளை ஏந்திச் செல்லும் பாடலே. அந்த கோணத்தில் ரஹ்மான் இசையமைத்த ஒரு படத்தில் உணர்வு ரீதியாக ஒன்றுக்கு மேற்பட்ட பாடல்கள் என்னை மிகவும் ஆட்கொண்டது Rockstar. அதற்கு முன்பு விண்ணைத் தாண்டி வருவாயா! இந்த ஒரு விஷயத்தில்தான் ரஹ்மான் என்னைப் பொருத்தவரை பின்னோக்கிச் செல்கிறார். அக்கடா, ஷக்கலக்க வரிசையில் லேடியோ பாடல். பார்த்து பார்த்து, கேட்டு கேட்டு புளித்துப் போன ..தட்டையான உணர்வுகள்.. அதற்கு அமைக்கப்படும் டெம்ப்ளேட் வகைப் பாடல்கள்.. இவைகள்தான் இப்போதைய காலக் கட்டத்தில் பெரும்பாலும் காணப்பெறுகிறது. இதை விட்டு ரஹ்மான் தனியே நிற்கணும் என்றால் இன்னும் முயற்சிக்கணும். ஒரு 'ஆரோமலே' உங்களின் மன ஆழம் வரை பயணிக்கும். அந்தரங்கமாக உரையாடும்.

ajaybaskar
24th September 2014, 08:38 PM
லேடியோ பாடல் ஃபேஷன் மாடல் ஒருத்தியை அறிமுகப்படுத்தும் ஒரு பாடல். இதற்கு டெம்ப்ளேட் வகை பாடல்களத்தானே பயன்படுத்தமுடியும்? வித்தியாசமாக சிந்திக்கிறேன் என்று க்ளாசிக்கலிலோ, கவ்வாலியிலோ மெட்டமைக்க முடியாதே?

A.ANAND
24th September 2014, 10:44 PM
everytime when arr album release aana vara valakkama hatered-tha ithu..ithu onnum puthusu illa..valakkama ethirpaathathu-than!naanun intha forum-la 4.5 varuma irukken,same people most r kamal n raja fans r 'ANTI ARR'
not mean every kamal n raja fans but almost 90% r 'ANTI ARR'Ivangga kitta irunthu enna ethir paaka mudiyum..easiya 90's arr album mathiri illa innu adipangga..appe 90's-la uyire.,kathalar thinam,muthalvan,thiruda thiruda,alaipayuthey vantha bothu ethana kamal raja fans intha album-ma paratanaangga?ellam payalum thuppanavanunggathane..ippa ivanggalukku intha album ellam golden,engga irunthu vanthathu'ya thideer-innu arr 90's album mela appadi orupaasam..??

'ARR LOST HIS TOUCH,NO NATIVITY,DISSAPOITHING,KUPPA,NOT LIKE 90'S ALBUM,WORST ALBUM,AVERAGE ALBUM' itha thavira vera enna ivangga kitta iruntha ethirppakaka mudiyum??Thiruda thiruda,jeans,boys intha album-la ellam western illaya?appayum ippadithane thuppanaanga this same people[ippa ithu ellam classic aachaam], naan onnum everytime ARR album release aagum bothu ellarum ARR fans-kathula paayasam oothanum innu solla varala!respect everybody have the own view..but suyanalam illatha nermaiyana review ingga ethana perukku irukku!shakalakka vara situation-la aromale potta eppadi irukkum[vadikattana muttal director -than itha seivaan]not ARR fans-sa itha sollavarala as music lover-ra ARR make'I'album going to take next level to tfm.
intha success-sa porakka mudiyama vaitherichal pullambalgal-than innga nalla theliva theriyuthu..'mafia gummal leader-than oruthar-than than padaiya tune panni motta sarakkayum anuppi irukkar pola' tamil cinema music not 100% depens on md's but athu director kaila than irukku..

ajaybaskar
24th September 2014, 10:53 PM
Anand,

What we try to give it in a gift wrapped parcel, you take the same out of மஞ்சப்பை and throw it on the opponent's face.. :)

A.ANAND
24th September 2014, 11:18 PM
[QUOTE=ajaybaskar;1167315]Anand,

ha..ha..bajana gostikku ellam appadi sonnathan netivity-oda puriyum sir..naan silapala samayam intha HUB verukka kaaranam, 'konjam kuda manasatchiye illatha mirugatha vida kevalamana silapala hubber-gallin suyanala attitute'!!!

ivanunggala entha kaalathilayum evanalaiyum thirathave mudiyathu..

HonestRaj
25th September 2014, 02:10 AM
Rahman rasigargalin aadhangam enna?

2x oscar vangirukkaru isai puyal, hollywood, bollywood ellam kalakkuraru namma aalu.. appo kooda ivanunga vai koosama paattu pudikkalainu solliduranga.. idhu thane?
munnadi page'la oru sila super level album'nu siladhellam list pannanga.. adhellam enna'ne nan kaettadhe illai.. adhu ellam vadakku vaazh indhi pesum makkalukku podura paattu.. adhai ellam neenga inge.. adhuvum indhiyavulaye hindi padathukku lowest market irukkura thamiznatula vandhu list pannittu irukeenga... rahman rasigargala irukkura oru karanathukkagave hindi songs ketkavendiya nirbandhathai erpaduthikittanga... avarudaya thanipatta muraiyil rasigargala illadha engalukku andha nirbandhamum avasiyamum illai... adhanala neenga solra rockstar ellam perumpalum peter-less (using from anban) thamizhanukku theriya vaippe illai...
rahmanukkaga indhi padangalai parkkum rasigargalin % than adhigam thavira ilaiyarajavukkaga kannada-telugu padangalai engalil perumpalum yarum parppadhillai.. appadi partha idhu varaikkum 999 padam parthurukkanum.. thaarai thappattai sertha 1000 varum...

nativity'ngradhai ippadi vechukkalam.. sila song ellam ketkumpodhu oru feel kudukkum.. adhukkellam semathiya instruments vechu foreign singers kondu vandhu compose pannanumnu avasiyam illai.. adhaithan ellarum (other side people) solrangannu ninaikkiren..

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I --> shreya ghosal :thumbsup: :arpudham:

Anirudh :hammer: (for I) :hammer: (for kaththi)

HonestRaj
25th September 2014, 02:11 AM
I album'la nan therinjukittadhu..

google --> images --> check all the lady singers pics :p

nickraman
25th September 2014, 04:08 AM
Bose .......is it movie or ...?

S...Srikanth movie. Yuvan meesik semaya irrukum. :D

Sunil_M88
25th September 2014, 07:09 AM
From Milliblog fame Karthik

I (Music review), Tamil – A R Rahman

http://itwofs.com/milliblog/2014/09/15/i-music-review-tamil-a-r-rahman/

Fans are fuming at comments section.

If you sort the comments according to "Be(a)st", you will see the top post has 32 likes. The commenter could be a frustrated ARR fan, IR fan or an outright hater. I don't think it's the latter as the post suggests the commenter appreciates ARRs work in Rockstar. If the writer is an IR fan then there could be a possibility that they might have drafted it before requesting/ordering other IR fans to like the comment.

My observation of IR fans vs ARR fans statistically shows that IR fans have more unity. IR fans usually tend not to confront each other otherwise they see it as letting IR down and if by chance they do criticise each other then it's on the basic of technicalities i.e. Postproduction/engineering/mastering (because it's not IRs department) rather than than music itself. ARR fans get vocal with each frequently and thus are more segregated in opinions e.g. ARR fans discuss ARRs transition in sound throughout his career but these are healthy debates and not arguments. ARR fans questioning each other is no patch on their loyalty, they are rather just expressing their open mindedness in differing ways.

We don't know who has the last laugh amongst IR fans and ARR fans in an online scuffle but off late IR fans have been provoking ARR fans quite a bit. Are IR fans, A-jealous, B-jealous, C-jealous or D-jealous. ARR has expanded out of TN into India and now the world, he has gone out of his comfort zone on numerous occasions, (I agree awards have lost their credibility) he has more awards than IR, and the list goes on. This shows that feel a need for interference with ARR fans. They always seem to be questioning his tendency to experiment and his humility. If they say they can attain bliss by listening to IR 24/7 then what's the purpose of provoking arguments? I thought they were much maturer than this but their monotonous questioning is just becoming embarrassing now.

The comment on Milliblog's review reads that, ARR fans consider ARRs farts as music, this shows the writers state of mind lol it also reads that ARR fans don't appreciate other artists which proves he has zilch understanding of ARR fans. ARR fans are more likely ready to go out and explore other types music compared to IR fans. With a name like kingkong, the writer could be liking his own post as a guest.

ARR fans don't require advice about ARR from Tom, Dick or Harry... People come online to get popularity by trying to defame ARR but hate it or take it, Rahman Ji Is A World Brand Now, so good luck and Happy Listening!

ajaybaskar
25th September 2014, 10:24 AM
Honest,

Bose,water எல்லாம் கேட்டுருக்கீங்களாங்கிறது ஒரு ரஹ்மான் ரசிகர் (சுப்பு) இன்னொரு ரஹ்மான் ரசிகரை (மஹேன்) கேட்டது. அந்த ஆல்பங்களை ஒரு ராஜா ரசிகரோ இல்லை ஒரு சராசரி தமிழ் இசை ரசிகரோ கேட்கணும்னு இங்க யாரும் எதிர்பார்க்கலை.

ரஹ்மான் 2 ஆஸ்கார் வாங்கிருக்காரு. அதனால் அவரு என்ன இசையமைச்சாலும் கேக்கணும்னு இங்க நானோ இல்லை வேறு எந்த ரஹ்மான் ரசிகரோ சொன்னதாக ஒரு பதிவை காட்டுங்க. :) அப்படி சொன்னது யாருன்னு நீங்களே கடைசி 2,3 பக்கங்களை பார்த்து நீங்களே தெரிஞ்சுக்குங்க.

ராஜா இசையமைத்த கன்னட பாடல்களை நீங்கள் ஃபேஸ்புக்கில் ஷேர் செய்து சிலாகிக்கவில்லையா? அந்த படப்பெயர்களை நாங்கள் கூடத்தான் கேட்டதில்லை. தமிழ்நாட்டில் ஹிந்தி படங்களுக்கு இருக்கும் வணிகத்தை விட கன்னட படங்களுக்கு இருக்கும் வணிகம் குறைவுதான். இருந்தாலும் நீங்கள் கேட்பதில்லையா? அதை நாங்கள் செய்தால் மட்டும் என்ன பிரச்சினை?

hattori_hanzo
25th September 2014, 10:43 AM
Chill guys. கொஞ்சம் விமர்சனம் பன்றதுகுள்ள இவன் கமல் ரசிகன், ராஜா ரசிகன், புதுமையை ரசிக்கமாட்டான்னு நீங்களே Brand பண்ணலாமா? நான் முன்னாடி சொன்னதுபோல, இந்த பாட்டெல்லாம் படம் வந்ததுக்கு அப்பறம் இப்ப பிடிக்காதுன்னு சொல்ற நெறைய பேருக்கு பிடிச்சு போகலாம் ( Read பழகி போகலாம்)
In fact, ARR therapy is gradually working for me:
Day 1 - பிடிக்கல,
Day 2 - பிடிக்கல பிடிக்கலன்னு பல தடவ சொல்லிட்டேன்
Day 3 - பிடிக்காம இருந்த சிலவிஷயங்கள் அப்பிடி ஒண்ணும் உறுத்தலா தெரியல :-)

[Mindvoice - டொண்டி டைம்ஸ் ஒரே பாட்ட கேட்டா "ஐ" இல்லை, ஆட்டுக்கார அலமேலு பாட்டு கூட Automatic-a முணுமுணுதிட்டிருப்பே]

When does a person get disappointed with the songs? Before hearing, he will have some expectation. In this case the hype was just too big. He would expect the songs to be foot-tapping, melodious, comprehensible (Some even prefer them to be in a structured format) However if the songs turn out to be very catchy - as in the case of Chikkubukku Rayilu, Why this Kolaveri, Gemini Gemini or Naakka Mooka, it gets instantly registered, even if it does not satisfy any of the afore-mentioned conditions. Mersalaayitten was supposed to be the pick of the album but unfortunately non-ARR fans did not find anything so special in it.

Rahman introduced some new patterns earlier and they satisfied the majority of audience - be it Oorvasi, Musthafa, Roja, Mukkaala, Rhythm and many others were instant hits. The opera/ballad piece or other new things he introduced in 'Ai' might set a new trend in future but why do you expect everyone to be bowled over after first listening? As I said before, I could spot some tunes which are very similar to his old songs. "Aila" has a bit which reminds me of "Adhisayam" in Jeans - oru 10-15 seconds kittathatta adhey music. In Pookkale too, the line "Hey Ai endraal <Idhu dhanaa><Adhu dhaana>...." sounds too familiar to an old song of his. Mundane and repetitive lyrics didn't help differentiating this song from few of his earlier works, either. Better lyrics could have done wonders for Mersalaayitten too.

When I heard NEPV & Megha, I did not consider them better than IR's earlier works. I did post my negative comments in a much harsher tone, saying IR must retire. None of the IR fans shot back at me saying I don't have a rasanai or I belong to a goshti. I do accept that MDs have their best, worst and ordinary works. But do you people honestly think every song of ARR is impeccable and should be rated high? When ARR was awarded Oscar for Jai Ho, even many of ARR's fanatics did not think he deserved it for THAT song - a mediocre number which is way below his best, in terms of quality. I would classify the songs of 'Ai' in the same category. Neither too good nor very bad. He could have done them better. But I am surprised when you guys tend to mock everyone who doesn't get impressed with ARR's songs.

ajaybaskar
25th September 2014, 11:16 AM
HH,

I don't like 'I' songs - Perfectly fine

How come you like 'I' songs? You should be a Peter - Not fine.

Anban
25th September 2014, 11:41 AM
kamal fans do critically analyse his movies .. ARR fans mostly behave like blind supporters .. ithuku mela enna pesurathukku irukku ..

elsaen11
25th September 2014, 11:45 AM
So you called kamal fans who liked manmadhan anbu as retards?

hattori_hanzo
25th September 2014, 12:03 PM
HH,

I don't like 'I' songs - Perfectly fine

How come you like 'I' songs? You should be a Peter - Not fine.

Agreed. ARR fans notice several new aspects in his songs - instruments, mix of different genres, deviation from conventional pattern etc. It would be good to see a healthy discussion on these improvizations & way they stand out from the other MD's works - like that of Anirudh, Imman or Yuvan. Someone like me who doesn't easily identify the technicalities can benefit from them. IR's strength is the usage of raagas to bring in the right mood (For instance, he used Charukesi, a raga which gives a feel of love & devotion in 'Kaadhalin Deepam Ondru', 'Chinnathayaval Thantha') although the instruments he used were traditional.

And I believe, the term 'Peter' refers to the singing style (desperately trying to be non-Tamil which does turns many TFM lovers off) and not his music.

VinodKumar's
25th September 2014, 12:14 PM
Ella rasigargalum oru pulliyil nirbandhadhukku ullagugiraargal !!! Appdi ullagum bothu aduthavargalin mel thinikavum muyarchi seigiraargal !!! Thinikka mudiyaadha bothu aathiram kolgiraargal !!!

Idhaiyellam velila irundhu thoondi vittu vedikkai paakiravan thannai neetral / kala rasigan / Vimarsagan endru solli kolgiraan.

ajaybaskar
25th September 2014, 12:19 PM
Our fellow hubber Sunil, a musician himself, reviews every ARR album in the ARR section, he highlights the nuances and innovations. Similar discussions are being carried out in ARRYG, FB page, etc. You can always feel free to peep in. We would feel privileged to have some rational people like you. Even i am not a qualified musician to understand the technicalities. If a song pleases my ears, its a good song and if it doesn't, then its bad. Thats all. :) And like many others say, I don't even try to force myself to listen to an ARR song to like it. If its worthy enough, it will reach me somehow.

hattori_hanzo
25th September 2014, 12:33 PM
Ella rasigargalum oru pulliyil nirbandhadhukku ullagugiraargal !!! Appdi ullagum bothu aduthavargalin mel thinikavum muyarchi seigiraargal !!! Thinikka mudiyaadha bothu aathiram kolgiraargal !!!

Idhaiyellam velila irundhu thoondi vittu vedikkai paakiravan thannai neetral / kala rasigan / Vimarsagan endru solli kolgiraan.

Purinjidhu. Odhungikkaren, as I feel I am under the 2nd category only ;) Actually summaa out-righta pidikaadhunnu solradhukku badhi yen pidikkala, yen pidikkanumnu discuss panlaamnu dhaan paathen thavira vera onnum illa.

Ajay, yeah I have read some of his posts. Sure will check that and the FB pages too! Thanks.

A.ANAND
25th September 2014, 12:33 PM
Ella rasigargalum oru pulliyil nirbandhadhukku ullagugiraargal !!! Appdi ullagum bothu aduthavargalin mel thinikavum muyarchi seigiraargal !!! Thinikka mudiyaadha bothu aathiram kolgiraargal !!!

Idhaiyellam velila irundhu thoondi vittu vedikkai paakiravan thannai neetral / kala rasigan / Vimarsagan endru solli kolgiraan.

+1. Veliyila irunthu fake id-la aatharavu karam neetaraanga...

A.ANAND
25th September 2014, 12:40 PM
kamal fans do critically analyse his movies .. ARR fans mostly behave like blind supporters .. ithuku mela enna pesurathukku irukku ..

ha..ha..ROTFL!! oluga naayagan padam release aana, BO report kaha uyira koduppaaru paarunga intha 'kamal rasigar mandra security' anbu thambi...appadi oru thiagam.

A.ANAND
25th September 2014, 12:52 PM
I WRAP UP PARTY - IMAGES

http://cinemalead.com/photo-galleries/i-wrapped-up/01-i-wrapped-up-i-vikram.html

ajaybaskar
25th September 2014, 12:53 PM
Teaser views reaching 1 crore but no success meet yet?

VinodKumar's
25th September 2014, 01:08 PM
Purinjidhu. Odhungikkaren, as I feel I am under the 2nd category only ;) Actually summaa out-righta pidikaadhunnu solradhukku badhi yen pidikkala, yen pidikkanumnu discuss panlaamnu dhaan paathen thavira vera onnum illa.


HH, Adhilla endha thappum illa. As Ajay said, mathavangalukku idhu yean pudikudhu nu ketkurappa thaan prachana varudhu :).

VinodKumar's
25th September 2014, 01:09 PM
Teaser views reaching 1 crore but no success meet yet?

Waiting for Tom Cruise appointment.

elsaen11
25th September 2014, 01:10 PM
HH, Adhilla endha thappum illa. As Ajay said, mathavangalukku idhu yean pudikudhu nu ketkurappa thaan prachana varudhu :).

Yeah. That too when someone is in mindset, naan intha paatellam kaekavae koodathunu irunthaen but travelapa FM kaeka vachiruchu and he speaks about music nativity in single yaeno thaano listen. Super :notworthy:

A.ANAND
25th September 2014, 01:31 PM
wonder, Intha milliblog mathiri aalungga ARR eppadi music podanum innu 2 variyila #100 #200 mark koduthuduraan..

ivan enna ISO-la irunthu permission vaanganana??? [International Organisation Standards ]

Anban
25th September 2014, 03:15 PM
So you called kamal fans who liked manmadhan anbu as retards?
"critically analyse"-na mothalaa ennananu puriyuthaa ungalukku ?

Anban
25th September 2014, 03:18 PM
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Cinemarasigan
25th September 2014, 04:26 PM
everytime when arr album release aana vara valakkama hatered-tha ithu..ithu onnum puthusu illa..valakkama ethirpaathathu-than!naanun intha forum-la 4.5 varuma irukken,same people most r kamal n raja fans r 'ANTI ARR'
not mean every kamal n raja fans but almost 90% r 'ANTI ARR'Ivangga kitta irunthu enna ethir paaka mudiyum..easiya 90's arr album mathiri illa innu adipangga..appe 90's-la uyire.,kathalar thinam,muthalvan,thiruda thiruda,alaipayuthey vantha bothu ethana kamal raja fans intha album-ma paratanaangga?ellam payalum thuppanavanunggathane..ippa ivanggalukku intha album ellam golden,engga irunthu vanthathu'ya thideer-innu arr 90's album mela appadi orupaasam..??

'ARR LOST HIS TOUCH,NO NATIVITY,DISSAPOITHING,KUPPA,NOT LIKE 90'S ALBUM,WORST ALBUM,AVERAGE ALBUM' itha thavira vera enna ivangga kitta iruntha ethirppakaka mudiyum??Thiruda thiruda,jeans,boys intha album-la ellam western illaya?appayum ippadithane thuppanaanga this same people[ippa ithu ellam classic aachaam], naan onnum everytime ARR album release aagum bothu ellarum ARR fans-kathula paayasam oothanum innu solla varala!respect everybody have the own view..but suyanalam illatha nermaiyana review ingga ethana perukku irukku!shakalakka vara situation-la aromale potta eppadi irukkum[vadikattana muttal director -than itha seivaan]not ARR fans-sa itha sollavarala as music lover-ra ARR make'I'album going to take next level to tfm.
intha success-sa porakka mudiyama vaitherichal pullambalgal-than innga nalla theliva theriyuthu..'mafia gummal leader-than oruthar-than than padaiya tune panni motta sarakkayum anuppi irukkar pola' tamil cinema music not 100% depens on md's but athu director kaila than irukku..

I was saying about 90's songs of ARR are very nice and hear them even now.. Have you seen any of my earlier posts saying those songs are not good ? I have even old audio cassettes, cds of those ARR albums, not sure whether you have them.. It is not in good taste the way it is being generalized ...

elsaen11
25th September 2014, 04:27 PM
"critically analyse"-na mothalaa ennananu puriyuthaa ungalukku ?

I dont have such a talent to analyse an album w/o listening to it and call other listeners peter. So better neengalae intha ulagathuku sollirungalaen..

To my knowledge, you mean without even seeing/hearing movie/music just blabbering about it?

Russellmvr
25th September 2014, 05:22 PM
Isai padam trailer paarththu pola irukku...

A.ANAND
25th September 2014, 05:42 PM
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CEDYBLUE
25th September 2014, 05:48 PM
Finally listened to 'I' songs in peace and enjoyed the album. I have been reading the discussions in the last 4-6 pages on the technicalities, AR's decline in the last decade and stuff.

I don't listen to any of ARR's hindi albums, neither did I listen to his last Tamil release, Kochadaiyaan. Prior to Kochadaiyaan, I had listened extensively to Kadal, Maryan, Endiran, Ravvan and Vinnaithandi Vaurvaya, ARR's last 5 albums in Tamil. Barring, Raavan, I have enjoyed all the albums and most of the songs have been on my playlist till now. Talks of ARR's decline in the last decade amuses me personally, as I find his music a cut above the rest, even today, in Tamil. You name any from Harris, Yuvan to today's Anirudh, the music of these folks are good, but ARR's music is premium to me. You can call it his brand name or his brand of music, to me till date, Rahman's Tamil numbers have been magical, personally. A classic, cut above the rest.

I don't see any decline in quality either if we have to compare his scores of today to his early days' number. But I don't follow music outside the Tamil boundaries and have very little knowledge on the technicalities/nuances of music. I just enjoy music and if it's an enjoyable and a good listen, that's quality to me and most of ARR's work has been splendid in that regard.

The music of 'I' is no different experience. Instantly loved Ennodu and Pookala and being a fan of fast, peppy numbers, Mersalayitten is also a favoirte.

My Favorite order

1. Ennodu Nee Irundhal

2. Mersalayitten

3. Pookala

4. Ladio

5. Alia Alia

A.ANAND
25th September 2014, 05:52 PM
I was saying about 90's songs of ARR are very nice and hear them even now.. Have you seen any of my earlier posts saying those songs are not good ? I have even old audio cassettes, cds of those ARR albums, not sure whether you have them.. It is not in good taste the way it is being generalized ...

naan kamal hater illa sir, i like most his 80's movies..because 'arr fans kuda kamal fans-sa irukangga,athey mathiri kamal fans kuda arr fans-sa irukaangga'..i sayto silapala blind'aravekkadu'-ikku..

ajaybaskar
25th September 2014, 06:23 PM
Nice writeup as always,Cedy. Glad that you are enjoying I. :)

Meanwhile, ARR's previous tamil release was Kaaviyathalaivan. Do give a try. Its not for the masses. But its great in its own way.

balaajee
25th September 2014, 06:41 PM
ஐ படப்பிடிப்பு முடிந்தது.. கேக் வெட்டி கொண்டாடினார் ஷங்கர் (http://tamil.filmibeat.com/news/shankar-wraps-up-i-shoot-chennai-031003.html)

balaajee
25th September 2014, 06:42 PM
Isai padam trailer paarththu pola irukku...

Very TRUE..

paranitharan
25th September 2014, 06:54 PM
Teaser views reaching 1 crore but no success meet yet?

movie release aagi, rendaam naal vaichukuvaangalaam

ajaybaskar
25th September 2014, 07:03 PM
Please read my post again. I asked about teaser success meet and not movie success meet. A star recently celebrated a teaser success meet for a movie and unfortunately it turned out to be the only success meet for the movie.

paranitharan
25th September 2014, 07:13 PM
aamaa, they should have still held a success meet 2 days after for oodatha padam. already been done.

Music4Ever
25th September 2014, 07:15 PM
kamal fans do critically analyse his movies .. ARR fans mostly behave like blind supporters .. ithuku mela enna pesurathukku irukku ..

If the above comment came from a Kamal fan, how can it be given full credence?

Music4Ever
25th September 2014, 07:19 PM
Agreed. ARR fans notice several new aspects in his songs - instruments, mix of different genres, deviation from conventional pattern etc. It would be good to see a healthy discussion on these improvizations & way they stand out from the other MD's works - like that of Anirudh, Imman or Yuvan. Someone like me who doesn't easily identify the technicalities can benefit from them. IR's strength is the usage of raagas to bring in the right mood (For instance, he used Charukesi, a raga which gives a feel of love & devotion in 'Kaadhalin Deepam Ondru', 'Chinnathayaval Thantha') although the instruments he used were traditional.

And I believe, the term 'Peter' refers to the singing style (desperately trying to be non-Tamil which does turns many TFM lovers off) and not his music.

Obviously if someone grew up listening to songs like "Kamban emaandhaan" it would be hard to transition to "ennodu nee irundhaal" type songs. Kamban emaandhan is a masterpiece from the genius MSV. Ennodu nee irundhaal, IMO, is also a masterpiece from ARR

Mahen
25th September 2014, 07:20 PM
kamal fans do critically analyse his movies .. ARR fans mostly behave like blind supporters .. ithuku mela enna pesurathukku irukku ..

:rotfl: one of the best post ever..

paranitharan
25th September 2014, 07:23 PM
:rotfl: one of the best post ever..

this post is the worst in the history.

Music4Ever
25th September 2014, 07:24 PM
I was saying about 90's songs of ARR are very nice and hear them even now.. Have you seen any of my earlier posts saying those songs are not good ? I have even old audio cassettes, cds of those ARR albums, not sure whether you have them.. It is not in good taste the way it is being generalized ...

If you ask MSV-TKR fanatics, they would say MSV by himself was not that good. IR fanatics fed on IR staple diet don't like what came after him. ARR fanatics probably don't like Anirudh's type of dappaankuthu songs. As someone who has listened to music on radio from MSV peak days, I would say all the MDs have their own unique talent. To me I songs sound awesome.

Mahen
25th September 2014, 07:26 PM
But I am surprised when you guys tend to mock everyone who doesn't get impressed with ARR's songs.

:notthatway: you are free to like or dislike the songs..in fact many have shared their views that I is not upto mark etc..thats fine..the additional comments such as nativity/peter/kattu kathal etc are the ones that irked me/us...

Music4Ever
25th September 2014, 07:28 PM
Finally listened to 'I' songs in peace and enjoyed the album. I have been reading the discussions in the last 4-6 pages on the technicalities, AR's decline in the last decade and stuff.

I don't listen to any of ARR's hindi albums, neither did I listen to his last Tamil release, Kochadaiyaan. Prior to Kochadaiyaan, I had listened extensively to Kadal, Maryan, Endiran, Ravvan and Vinnaithandi Vaurvaya, ARR's last 5 albums in Tamil. Barring, Raavan, I have enjoyed all the albums and most of the songs have been on my playlist till now. Talks of ARR's decline in the last decade amuses me personally, as I find his music a cut above the rest, even today, in Tamil. You name any from Harris, Yuvan to today's Anirudh, the music of these folks are good, but ARR's music is premium to me. You can call it his brand name or his brand of music, to me till date, Rahman's Tamil numbers have been magical, personally. A classic, cut above the rest.

I don't see any decline in quality either if we have to compare his scores of today to his early days' number. But I don't follow music outside the Tamil boundaries and have very little knowledge on the technicalities/nuances of music. I just enjoy music and if it's an enjoyable and a good listen, that's quality to me and most of ARR's work has been splendid in that regard.

The music of 'I' is no different experience. Instantly loved Ennodu and Pookala and being a fan of fast, peppy numbers, Mersalayitten is also a favoirte.

My Favorite order

1. Ennodu Nee Irundhal

2. Mersalayitten

3. Pookala

4. Ladio

5. Alia Alia

I am unable to rate them in order. First I liked Pookale best. Wife, however, wants only Mersalayitten! Then I liked Ennodu nee irundhal very much. Then I listened to Aila Aila and found it wonderful. Even ladio is very good. Overall a fantastic album. I would have like one more melody of Pookale type and it would have become a murderous album. Still happy with the output after Kadal.

Music4Ever
25th September 2014, 07:29 PM
naan kamal hater illa sir, i like most his 80's movies..because 'arr fans kuda kamal fans-sa irukangga,athey mathiri kamal fans kuda arr fans-sa irukaangga'..i sayto silapala blind'aravekkadu'-ikku..

A cynic could easily remark that Viswaroopam was kuppai with lot of violence. Especially Kamal's voice which arguably did not jell with the terrorist character.

Music4Ever
25th September 2014, 07:30 PM
Nice writeup as always,Cedy. Glad that you are enjoying I. :)

Meanwhile, ARR's previous tamil release was Kaaviyathalaivan. Do give a try. Its not for the masses. But its great in its own way.

Kaviya thalaivan has some nice songs (just like Maryan), but the album does not have the I or Kadal effect!

A.ANAND
25th September 2014, 07:39 PM
now waiting for thalaivar bgm for the movie..

Adox
25th September 2014, 08:11 PM
Obviously if someone grew up listening to songs like "Kamban emaandhaan" it would be hard to transition to "ennodu nee irundhaal" type songs. Kamban emaandhan is a masterpiece from the genius MSV. Ennodu nee irundhaal, IMO, is also a masterpiece from ARR

If unbiased, you could appreciate music regardless of who the music director is or the era. A lot of times, I've liked a musical piece and then seek out to find the people involved in making it. Cult following as those for IR or ARR happens when a MD continuously smashes the charts. Effectively both and others less popular as well have given awesome music.

venkkiram
25th September 2014, 08:29 PM
Obviously if someone grew up listening to songs like "Kamban emaandhaan" it would be hard to transition to "ennodu nee irundhaal" type songs. Kamban emaandhan is a masterpiece from the genius MSV. Ennodu nee irundhaal, IMO, is also a masterpiece from ARR ஒப்பீடு செய்யலாம்..அதுக்கு இப்படியா? :)

venkkiram
25th September 2014, 08:35 PM
A cynic could easily remark that Viswaroopam was kuppai with lot of violence. Especially Kamal's voice which arguably did not jell with the terrorist character.
Forget about the movie. In songs category, Vishwaroopam was a master piece from SEL. விஸ்வரூபம், துப்பாக்கி எங்கள் தோளிலே, உன்னை காணாது நான், அனுவிதைத்த பூமியிலே - நான்குமே என்றுமே கேட்கக் கூடிய பாடல்கள். எனது ஃபேவரைட் "துப்பாக்கி எங்கள் தோளிலே"

venkkiram
25th September 2014, 08:58 PM
When I heard NEPV & Megha, I did not consider them better than IR's earlier works. I did post my negative comments in a much harsher tone, saying IR must retire. None of the IR fans shot back at me saying I don't have a rasanai or I belong to a goshti. . உங்களோட மேன்மையான/தீர்க்கமான விமர்சனத்தைக் கண்டு ராஜாவே ஒய்வு எடுக்க யோசித்துவருகிறாராம். பாராட்டுக்கள்!

Music4Ever
25th September 2014, 09:15 PM
ஒப்பீடு செய்யலாம்..அதுக்கு இப்படியா? :)

I understand where you come from, especially as I am someone who used to swear by MSV in the seventies (brother and I used to fight over was better, MSV or IR, in fact still do). Kamban emandhaan, Ilakkanam maarudho days coincide with my MSV-music-mad-times. Still, ennodu nee irundhal is really good, IMO. BTW, have you listened to that awesome number in Ramanujan (the one sung by Vani Jayaram and some kid)?

Music4Ever
25th September 2014, 09:18 PM
If unbiased, you could appreciate music regardless of who the music director is or the era. A lot of times, I've liked a musical piece and then seek out to find the people involved in making it. Cult following as those for IR or ARR happens when a MD continuously smashes the charts. Effectively both and others less popular as well have given awesome music.

Good post!

Music4Ever
25th September 2014, 09:20 PM
Forget about the movie. In songs category, Vishwaroopam was a master piece from SEL. விஸ்வரூபம், துப்பாக்கி எங்கள் தோளிலே, உன்னை காணாது நான், அனுவிதைத்த பூமியிலே - நான்குமே என்றுமே கேட்கக் கூடிய பாடல்கள். எனது ஃபேவரைட் "துப்பாக்கி எங்கள் தோளிலே"

Maybe, but Kadal and I are better, IMO. SEL are OK, but ARR is a different class, IMO. A pioneer.

CEDYBLUE
25th September 2014, 09:41 PM
Nice writeup as always,Cedy. Glad that you are enjoying I. :)

Meanwhile, ARR's previous tamil release was Kaaviyathalaivan. Do give a try. Its not for the masses. But its great in its own way.

Thanks Ajay :)

Will listen to Kaaviya Thalaivan for sure :)

rsubras
25th September 2014, 10:53 PM
ok, fights apart.......... why didnt ARR sing in I and Kaaviya thalaivan, he had been regularly singing one song in each of his movies for many years now......... especially now he himself has told that he starts to like his voice......then why is he not singing?

rsubras
25th September 2014, 10:57 PM
to someone (i dont remember who) who said that i recommended only hindi albums and not tamil..........thatz because i wanted to ask him to hear a underrated album (that is an album that did not get success that it deserved when it was released)........ i couldnt recollect such kind of sound tracks in tamil.......... Parasuram was one...but thatz a kuppai album i believe (and also i would like to believe it was composed by some one and ARR gave the consent to use his name as MD :D) ........ so athai eppadi solrathu........

ajaybaskar
25th September 2014, 11:03 PM
Ennodu Nee Irunthaal was reportedly sung by ARR, who then asked Sid Sriram to take over.

And in Kaaviyathalaivan, Haricharan did a Rockstar Mohit Chauhan, singing almost all the songs. So ARR wouldn't have wanted to sing just for the sake of it.

NOV
26th September 2014, 06:26 AM
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hattori_hanzo
26th September 2014, 11:07 AM
Languages - English and Chinese. Was any other Tamil movie released in these languages before? Before Kochadaiyaan released, I remember seeing some news articles which said it would release in French, Chinese, English. Did they really do it? I think even for Hey Ram and Dasavatharam, such rumours went around.

hattori_hanzo
26th September 2014, 12:27 PM
Some leaked videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-MOxPENsWg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXhpD2O-euU

A.ANAND
26th September 2014, 01:36 PM
Rajeev Masand interview with Shankar (Seg 1 of 2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL36K3iNLfw&app=desktop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDnW7n-L7zg

Mahen
26th September 2014, 05:29 PM
Costliest indian film? :think: Endhiran?

Sunil_M88
26th September 2014, 06:27 PM
If unbiased, you could appreciate music regardless of who the music director is or the era. A lot of times, I've liked a musical piece and then seek out to find the people involved in making it. Cult following as those for IR or ARR happens when a MD continuously smashes the charts. Effectively both and others less popular as well have given awesome music.

I remember in Mayyam, I had only just joined the forum and thought I'd interact with IR fans to discuss music in general. The mistake I made was that I didn't clock on to their nature straight away despite getting many hints and I remained calm and went with the flow. Their uniform thought was reeking as if they've all been assembled for the same purpose. General hubbers in Mayyam realised I was an ARR Fan but that a neutral one but IR fans were trying to expose me as fake neutral supporter but I stuck to my guns and carried on being unbiased. I don't know why they couldn't digest the fact that some ARR fans can be unbiased and appreciate HJ, YSR and GVP. Their double standards slowly becoming prevalent when I started favouring the music from the latest crop of composers. They were putting words into my mouth by implying I've put all these newbies on the same pedestal as ARR. For me ARR is number 1 and the rest are secondary but I had to erupt when some stupid fool had a go at me for appreciating newbies and saying how a music fan can't be unbiased but when I was pouring praise for ARR he indicated that I was too bias to ARR. They have a problem if you're unbiased and they have a problem when you're biased. You can never satisfy them and the bottom line is if you don't have the same wavelength as them then they don't want to know you. I've reached a stage where I don't associate myself with 99% of them anymore. Majority of them haber all left Mayyam for the good anyway!

Music4Ever
26th September 2014, 07:04 PM
ஒப்பீடு செய்யலாம்..அதுக்கு இப்படியா? :)

I suspect I did not acquit myself well. My post was in response to someone who had "Oru aadhikka naaygan saadhikka vandhaal..." which was MSV's "Kamban emaandhan" beauty. Hope that puts my original comparison in proper perspective.

rsubras
26th September 2014, 11:39 PM
I remember in Mayyam, I had only just joined the forum and thought I'd interact with IR fans to discuss music in general. The mistake I made was that I didn't clock on to their nature straight away despite getting many hints and I remained calm and went with the flow. Their uniform thought was reeking as if they've all been assembled for the same purpose. General hubbers in Mayyam realised I was an ARR Fan but that a neutral one but IR fans were trying to expose me as fake neutral supporter but I stuck to my guns and carried on being unbiased. I don't know why they couldn't digest the fact that some ARR fans can be unbiased and appreciate HJ, YSR and GVP. Their double standards slowly becoming prevalent when I started favouring the music from the latest crop of composers. They were putting words into my mouth by implying I've put all these newbies on the same pedestal as ARR. For me ARR is number 1 and the rest are secondary but I had to erupt when some stupid fool had a go at me for appreciating newbies and saying how a music fan can't be unbiased but when I was pouring praise for ARR he indicated that I was too bias to ARR. They have a problem if you're unbiased and they have a problem when you're biased. You can never satisfy them and the bottom line is if you don't have the same wavelength as them then they don't want to know you. I've reached a stage where I don't associate myself with 99% of them anymore. Majority of them haber all left Mayyam for the good anyway!

yeah, i could remember very well..particularly the years 2002 - 2004 or 2005 were the worst...when rahman devoted most of the time for bombay dreams and was very choosy in tamil and hindi.....vantha sila tamil padam um flop aayikittu irunthathu......... from parthaale paravasam to Aayitha ezhuthu .........at that time rahman was called names........... that were provocative.......

Mahen
27th September 2014, 11:56 AM
Rajeev Masand interview with Shankar (Seg 1 of 2)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDnW7n-L7zg
Shankarji expression @5.09 when he talks abt the composition of the beast song.. :bow: and looks like Shankar is never gona change his MD..Shankar-ARR is one the most successful combo in indian cinema..

JamesDap
27th September 2014, 01:28 PM
Opera=Kaatu kathal :clap: Kaa..trey=speech/vocal issues :clap: so u expect chaste tamil? eh hello all these are different styles of singing..western particularly..go listen to some engish rock ballads/operas..theres a certain style in singing those genres
if you cant adapt, go back to Megha

Errm, I am sure Joan Sutherland or Maria Callas would be horrified to learn that Natalie Di Luccio is described as opera these days. But Western music is seriously down in the dumps now. I would suggest you to listen to Fiona Apple's singing on the ballad Werewolf and tell me if you find any resemblance between that and Di Luccio's style. By the way, there is no such thing as opera singer, it's just lazy usage popularised by lazy music journalism. They are Western classical singers (they as in the likes of Sutherland or Pavarotti) and they sing several kinds of compositions, opera being the one in which they are most frequently employed as it is the most vocal based type of composition. But there are also arias and even some symphonies have parts for the singer.