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app_engine
23rd June 2011, 01:47 AM
In the light of new threads coming up for every major singer...one of the most deserving singers of TFM!

http://www.southdreamz.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Malaysia-vasudevan.jpg

venkkiram
23rd June 2011, 02:21 AM
இந்தத் திரியைப் பார்க்கையில் மனதில் இந்தப் பாடல் சூழ்நிலைக்குப் பொருத்தமாக ஒலிக்கிறது.

ஆஹா வந்துடிச்சி ஆசையில் ஓடிவந்தேன்!

[இந்தப் பாடலையும் பட்டியலில் சேர்த்திருக்கலாம் App]

ajithfederer
23rd June 2011, 02:54 AM
Excellent (poll) options.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFvaR206F9Y

A change from the regular Rajni numbers.

Nerd
23rd June 2011, 03:07 AM
Thanks for the thread app.

I feel he is the most underrated among that generation of singers. As hubber genesis rightly pointed out (in IR section or in a PM I don't remember) one won't find many blogs/fan-sites dedicated to him in the internet when compared with others.

Not a single day passes without me listening to at least 2-3 malaysia songs. Fantastically versatile singer and simply brilliant in expressing subtle emotions. RIP sir.

Btw, App did you mean அள்ளித்தந்த பூமி அன்னையல்லவா / சொல்லித்தந்த வானம் தந்தையல்லவா in the poll or is that a different song?

Nerd
23rd June 2011, 03:09 AM
Linking Suka's fantastic article (with audio clips) on MV
http://solvanam.com/?p=13064

venkkiram
23rd June 2011, 03:17 AM
பக்தி ரசத்தையும் சேர்க்கலாம்.

1) மாரியம்மா மாரியம்மா
2) தேவனின் கோயிலிலே
3) அழைக்கிறான் மாதவன்

Nerd
23rd June 2011, 03:29 AM
Thenkizhakku cheemaiyilE is undoubtedly his best with Rahman (sung only 3 other AFAIK). Kizhakku cheemaiyilE is in fact a very unique album. Except KJY all major singers of the 70s/80s/90s (SPB/SJ/MV/PJ/Chitra/Mano) have sung in this album.

தென்கிழக்கு சீமையிலே http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4uvLHUC_5A

V_S
23rd June 2011, 04:29 AM
There is no Muthal Mariyaathai without Malaysia Vasudevan sir. Starting with Poongaatru Thirumbuma, Yeh Kili Irukku, Yeh Kuruvi, Vettiveru Vaasam and Yeratha Mala Mela all these evergreen earthy melodies cannot be replaced by anyone. Whenever I listen to these songs, my eyes soak in tears just remembering MV sir and the perfect emotion he conveyed in his singing. Truly a great Legend!
My very special MV sir song and it's in my all time top 10 songs and album of any language or any composer.
Poongaatru Thirumbuma? Can God get Him and NT back to earth?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ujkKvIpyfY

groucho070
23rd June 2011, 06:41 AM
No offence guys, but it does feel weird when you refer to him as Malaysia. I mean, let's say someone from India comes here and becomes famous singer. And we Malaysians refer to him as, say, India Raghu. Instead of calling him Raghu, we refer to him as India. "Wow, India rocks", "India certainly got the nuance right". "India's better than Mano, heck, even my cat is better than Mano". Weird, right?

We refer to him as Vasudevan or in full Malaysia Vasudevan. Just for you info, otherwise no objection. Keep going.

App, options too many, votes would be split considerably.

Anyway, here's my mom's fav, that ultimately became mine because...oh well....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_PZM-z5K7g

venkkiram
23rd June 2011, 09:01 AM
கிராமத்து அத்தியாயம் படத்தில் வரும் "ஆத்து மேட்டுல ஒரு பாட்டு கேக்குது.." - ம.வாசுதேவன் - ஜானகி கூட்டணியில் அமைந்த ராஜாவின் பாடல்.. ஒவ்வொரு முறை கேட்கும் போதும் சொக்க வைக்கும். படத்தின் பெயருக்கேற்ப பாடலின் ஒவ்வொரு இசைக்குறிப்பும் கிராமத்து சாயலை உரித்துக் காட்டும். வெட்டி வேரு வாசம் பாடல் போல ரொம்ப நுணுக்கமான சங்கதிகள் கிடையாது. எளிமையான பாடல். ம.வாசுதேவனின் குரலை ஒத்த ஒரு நகலாக நம்மையும் பாடத் தூண்டும் ஒரு பாடல். அலுவலகத்தில் மதிய உணவுக்கு அப்புறம் மாலை வரையிலான சோர்வு தரும் நேரங்களில் இதுபோன்ற பாடல்களை கேட்டு உற்சாகம் ஏற்றிக்கொள்வது வழக்கம்.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv-KRI-PvNU

venkkiram
23rd June 2011, 09:27 AM
நினைவே ஒரு சங்கிதம் - ஏத்தமையா ஏத்தம் பாடல் ம.வாசுதேவன் பாடிய தெம்மாங்கு பாடல்களில் முத்தான ஒன்று. பல்லவி, சரணங்கள் என சந்தங்கள், தாளக்கட்டுக்கள் எல்லாமே நிலத்தடி நீரை ஏத்தம் மூலம் ஏற்றி இறக்குவதற்கு ஒப்பானது. "முந்தி முந்தி வினாயகரே.. என ஆரம்பிக்கும் தொகையறாவிலிருந்து பாடல் முடியும் வரை கர்நாடக சாயல் கொஞ்சம் கூட தென்படாத பரிசுத்தமான ஒரு கிராமியப் பாடல். தெம்மாங்கு என்ற பதத்திற்கு நல்ல உதாரணம். "விஞ்ஞான காலத்தில் எல்லாமே மெஷினு, மனுஷன் மனசு கூட மெஷினாச்சி போ புள்ள!" என்ற வரிகளில் ம.வாசுதேவன் காட்டும் குரல்மொழி அருமை. பாடல் எடுக்கப் பட்ட களம் மற்றும் விஜயகாந்த்-ராதா இருவருக்கும் இடையேயான குறும்பு எல்லாமே ம.வாசுதேவன் - சித்ரா கூட்டணிக்கு அணி சேர்க்கிறது. ( வெள்ளிவிழா கண்ட படம். அதற்கான விழாவில் கமல் விஜயகாந்த்-ராதா உட்பட்ட ஏனைய கலைஞர்களுக்கு கேடயம் வழங்கி சிறப்பித்த புகைப்படங்கள் இராணி இதழில் வந்தது இப்போது ஞாபகத்திற்கு வருகிறது )


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH7IFmQf3SU&playnext=1&list=PLCE9EA99AF75A2244

San_K
23rd June 2011, 09:34 AM
app

where the following songs will come in the poll options?

maamaavukku kuduma kuduma, en pathara matthu, mayilapore pakkam mayila kandane, maamanukku mayilaporuthan

Plum
23rd June 2011, 11:50 AM
Ah! Now there's a singer who deserves all the accolades pouring in. Voted for Agaya Gangai as he brought in a very manly gentleness - as opposed to Unnikrishnan type gentleness - to luvs emotion. Rajini being the defining onscreen hero for him, it had to be a Rajini song that highlights him.

But as App has nicely prefixed in the poll options, what versatility!

ajithfederer
23rd June 2011, 12:06 PM
One of my fav lolaayi cum eve tease songs is from Dharmathin Thalaivan. Thagaraaru song in a thaarumaaru voice. MV/Rajni

Opening stanza is absolute nonsense :lol:. But who cares. Here is where MV/Rajni/IR create something out of nothing.

ஹே ரத்தரா
ஹே ரத்தரா
ரத்தரா!!!! ரத்தரா!!! ரத்தரா
ரத்தரா!!! ரத்தரா!!! ரத்தரா
ஹே
(MV and Rajni are just warming up until now. MV with his vocal cords and Rajni with a bottle. The beginning of insanity. Rajni's antics are, what to say:. Well basically he does what he likes and they are perfect for the song.

Jump to stanza 1
ஒத்தடி ஒத்தடி ஓரமா ஒத்தடி அம்மடி
எட்டடி துள்ளினா பத்தடி பாயுமே நம்மடி
பட்டணம் அறிஞ்ச போக்கிரி
பத்தியம் தெரிஞ்ச பக்கிரி
அட என்னோட மோதாம வாமா பாப்போமா
ஆடி தான் பாப்போமா
ரேட்டு தான் போட்டு தான் பாப்போமா

Main stanza Rajni, MV and IR are in full form.
வில்லாதி வில்லானடி எனக்கு இணையாக தான் கில்லாடி இல்லையடி
அட வெச்சாலும் வெச்சானடி உனக்கு செரியாக தன மச்சானும் ஒத்த வெடி
சொல்லணும் வந்தனம்!!!
இல்ல மூலையில் குந்தனும்!!!
மக்கு போல் நிக்கற செக்கு போல் சுத்தற சிக்கலில் சிக்கலாமா ?
அட எப்போவும் துள்ள்ற சொப்பன சுந்தரி இப்படி முழிக்கலாமா?

MV just blazes through these stanzas. Now there are nothing with the lines. You can call em stupid?. Hey but it is sung by a drunken guy, so take a walk!!. If sung by any other singer the song would be terrifically bland. MV/Rajni are a couple made in heaven. Naasthi atmosphere created. Bang at both ends. The highs and lows achieved in his singing are :thumbsup:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqBaoQi6Mc8

groucho070
23rd June 2011, 12:16 PM
But as App has nicely prefixed in the poll options, what versatility!It shows versatility alright, but voting dippiculty.

app_engine
23rd June 2011, 04:57 PM
Btw, App did you mean அள்ளித்தந்த பூமி அன்னையல்லவா / சொல்லித்தந்த வானம் தந்தையல்லவா in the poll or is that a different song?

Yes, it's the naNdu song where bhoomi got (mistakenly) changed to vAnam :oops:

I realized it after posting but could not edit. I don't know how to edit a poll in the new hub...is it possible? Otherwise, can moderators please change that to 'aLLiththandha bhoomi annai allavA'?

app_engine
23rd June 2011, 05:02 PM
app

where the following songs will come in the poll options?

maamaavukku kuduma kuduma, en pathara matthu, mayilapore pakkam mayila kandane, maamanukku mayilaporuthan

I guess the mAmA / mAmi songs could go to either outrageous kuRumbu or misc section.

In reality, most TF songs are multi-genre ones and it's one's perception as to what category it can be placed in. With some, there's a dominant taste and with others it's purely based on bias.

For e.g., where to place 'poongARRu thirumbumA'?

cinematic light? yes
emotional? yes
folk? yes
soft? yes

Same case for a number of songs.

'kOdai kAlakkARRE' - is it western? or the aLLiththandha bhoomi group? Can't say :-)

app_engine
23rd June 2011, 05:04 PM
Groucho,
Yes, there are too many options :oops: but then MV had such a variety too :-)

Venkkiram,
I remember posting about a MV's bhakthi song in his obituary thread. What to do, there are max 10 options :-)

San_K
23rd June 2011, 05:12 PM
MV for himself alongwith SPB


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JujaN8vYSAQ

San_K
23rd June 2011, 05:14 PM
This is one of my favourite MV songs. The song was added recently in my list :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq0s-p9fqZs

Nerd
23rd June 2011, 06:09 PM
NOV in the Avan Ivan thread has a poll which allows one to choose multiple options. If App had made a similar poll, I would have voted for 9/10. Not a fan of his mimicry stuff.

Great songs everyone, please keep them coming.

app_engine
23rd June 2011, 08:00 PM
பருவ காலங்களின் கனவு
(மூடுபனியில் ஜானகியுடன்) (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR2064'&lang=en)

Relatively short song but quite an unusual one IMO. While 'en iniya pon nilAvE' is so well-known to the current gen, this one may not be that familiar.

A personal favourite:-) Consider this as part of the "western" category :wink:

app_engine
23rd June 2011, 09:25 PM
thiraippadal link for MV (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/singer.php?SGRID=Malaysia%20Vasudevan&lang=en) that lists some 540 songs. There can be some minor errors here and there but such should be negligible.

Almost 95% are IR numbers. There may be other web resources that contain his songs from other MDs, especially Shankar Ganesh with whom he has worked for many numbers.

The MV-SG combo's 'nadaiya mAththu' (kannipparuvaththilE) (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGSHK0058'&lang=en) was such a big hit at the time of arrival. The same movie had the 'pattu vaNNa rOsAvAm' (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGSHK0060'&lang=en)which was heard in all patti-thotti of TN and popularity levels were greater than of IR songs of the exactly same period.

app_engine
23rd June 2011, 09:31 PM
கூடையிலே கருவாடு
கூந்தலிலே பூக்காடு
(ஒருதலை ராகம், ராஜேந்திரன்- ஏ.ஏ. ராஜ் இசையில் ) (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGTRR0004'&lang=en)

No confusion, this Rajendran is same as TR :-) Included AA Raj simply to be historically correct as this was the way it was advertised on posters and otherwise at the time of the movie's arrival. The lyrics were by TR and possibly the melody but the orchestra used was AA Raj's and he could have had inputs in the arrangements.

A very catchy number in an album that was a smash hit across the state. It was especially loved by students!

PARAMASHIVAN
23rd June 2011, 09:33 PM
India Raghu. Instead of calling him Raghu, yOv

Why dragging me :x :lol: j/king

One of the Versatile singers in TFM, after SPB and TMS ! Though he had "littile" TMS within him :)
My Fav MV songs are (Not in any particular oreder)

1) Aagaya Gangai
2) Puthuvaga enamanus thangam - Every time I hear this, I wanna get up and dance, cant sit still when one hears this song !
3) Koyil mani osai ingu keatatharO
4) E kuruvi chittu kuruvi

A versatile singer indeed :clap:

V_S
24th June 2011, 01:26 AM
What a class rendition! MV sir and this song is inseparable. As the first youtube comment rightly says, this song is beyond all recognitions and awards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9-7_rW9H28

Nerd
24th June 2011, 06:13 AM
Enna sugamaana ulagam - Garjjanai
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ps-8Zjb-iM

Not embedding the video to avoid cluttering the page with youtubes but video is mildly amusing. Rajini and Madhavi go on a trip in the streets of Chennai on a bed. Yeah, your read that right. Have not seen the film. High budget sci-fi made in 4 languages. Colossal flop I think.

Anyway the song has MV and IR in supreme form. Very very modern song, way ahead of its times.

groucho070
24th June 2011, 07:28 AM
Crap movie. Wonder what Kamal would have done with the same scene...(Nettu first half of Alavandhan parta effect-u), probably IR would have changed the melody (Mendum mendum vaa, jumcha jumcha jumcha).

My contribution (Nan clutter pannuven):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnIK4ijrJ3Q

groucho070
24th June 2011, 12:38 PM
From wife dedicated to all Rajini fans (her favourites already listed, baakki ithu kedachathu, and its not bad in book):



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7APvndGjw0

app_engine
24th June 2011, 08:11 PM
ஆகாயம் பூமி ரெண்டும் ஒன்றா
(சாமந்திப்பூ, ம.வாசுதேவன் இசையமைத்துப்பாடியது) (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR3157'&lang=en)

Only two facts about this movie are possibly in the memory of those who followed TFM during the movie's time period...one : first movie to have music by MV where he played nice, using his contemporary singers. two : it had the enigmatic Shobha :-(

Nerd
25th June 2011, 09:46 PM
From wife dedicated to all Rajini fans (her favourites already listed, baakki ithu kedachathu, and its not bad in book):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7APvndGjw0

Thank you. Nice song indeed.

One of the greatest songs / hits of MV. Ooru vittu ooru vandhu. He owns this song. Can not think of any other singer doing justice to this. The last lines in each charanam (kaadhal eedera, paadu en kooda) - brilliant rendition. And you have 'annan' dancing to this. 10/10 song.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1SRRwCP2UM

app_engine
27th June 2011, 11:18 PM
Just a couple of kosuru infos on 'ooru vittu ooru vanthu' :

1. The movie's director, Gangai Amaran, also sings in this song. So, it's a male-male-duet with kuzhuvinar as well.

2. Such was the popularity of this song that the first line got used as the title for a later-day grAmarAjan movie -'ooru vittu ooru vanthu'. The song 'sorgamE enRAlum athu nammoorappOla varumA' from that movie has become some sort of anthem for NRI's...

ajithfederer
28th June 2011, 08:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj_8hNbhnHY&feature=related

Vechalum vekkama ponalum malli vaasam. Comical video song.

groucho070
28th June 2011, 08:22 AM
2. Such was the popularity of this song that the first line got used as the title for a later-day grAmarAjan movie -'ooru vittu ooru vanthu'. The song 'sorgamE enRAlum athu nammoorappOla varumA' from that movie has become some sort of anthem for NRI's...Also by Ganggai Amaran. Terrible movie. Annan's comedy didn't quite click.

ajithfederer
28th June 2011, 08:25 AM
:bow: 10/10 aa?? 100/10 song.

Thank you. Nice song indeed.

One of the greatest songs / hits of MV. Ooru vittu ooru vandhu. He owns this song. Can not think of any other singer doing justice to this. The last lines in each charanam (kaadhal eedera, paadu en kooda) - brilliant rendition. And you have 'annan' dancing to this. 10/10 song.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1SRRwCP2UM

groucho070
28th June 2011, 08:31 AM
:smile: I like the seriousness given to the song. The "papapaaa" makes me smile when I listen to it. and responding to "Manmatha leelaiya vendravar undo" the group goes, "illa illaa" :smile:

PARAMASHIVAN
28th June 2011, 03:08 PM
Azha Kadalil Thediya muthu - form which movie ??? Wonder full song by IR+MV+SJ :notworthy:

groucho070
28th June 2011, 03:17 PM
Sattam En Kayil - Kamal. But apparently the song does not appear in the movie?

Another good number from that movie, Kadatenggayoo Vazhipullayaaroo also MV.

PARAMASHIVAN
28th June 2011, 04:00 PM
Thanks Rakesh anna :)

One of my All time Fav of MV are "ஆகாய கங்கை " and "ஒரு தங்க ரதத்தில்" ! :notworthy:

app_engine
29th June 2011, 12:08 AM
First big patti-thotti-hit for MV, from my memory (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR0395'&lang=en)

ஒத்த ரூவா ஒனக்குத்தாரேன், பத்தாட்டியும் எடுத்துத் தாரேன்
(பத்ரகாளி, 1976 , ஜானகியுடன், இளையராஜா இசையில்)

As recalled in a few blogs and other articles, MV came into Chennai to act in a movie and stayed back after that. Kept trying for chances as actor / singer / artist while singing on-stage with Pavalar Brothers (Ilayaraja / Gangai Amaran / R D Bhaskar). He also befriended SPB. His first recorded song was with V Kumar it seems but the movie never came out.

MV then sang under MSV's music among a big group for Bharatha vilAs ('indhiya nAdu en veedu') followed by a solo that was popular on radio under Kunnakkudi (kAlam seyyum viLaiyAttu, movie kumAsthAvin makaL).

The badhrakALi song, however, had a much bigger scale of popularity - reverberating along patti-thottees of TN on horn speakers. Obviously it was benefited by the popularity of kEttELe ingE and got played along. Nevertheless, it reached everywhere and got retention value in the minds of people. (Everytime I hear Kannan oru kaikkuzhandhai, after the ArArirO, ArArirO in the end, my mind automatically plays the prelude of oththa roovA - to this day).

groucho070
29th June 2011, 06:42 AM
Thanks Rakesh anna :)

One of my All time Fav of MV are "ஆகாய கங்கை " and "ஒரு தங்க ரதத்தில்" ! :notworthy:Quiet obvious for a Rajini fan. MV and Rajini inspearable, though I wish MV had sung for Rajini in later days. I think the last one was Singgam Ondru Purapattathe, though it was in background.

app_engine
29th June 2011, 08:33 PM
MV's second patti-thotti hit was from avar enakkE sontham - surAngani (1977)

The version that's available on thiraippAdal is NOT the original one :confused: I can't relate to the trumpet sounds etc, this may be there on some cassettes / disks but not the one that was on radio when the movie arrived. That had guitar beginning and was a lot more fun.

The youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lUFTMXNzPM) (black & white, Jaishankar in the audience with a team performing this on stage, it seems MV was on screen) is the correct version that was popular and a big hit - especially among students!

Obviously it was not an IR original, it was IR's remix of (possibly) a 'poppisai pAdal' of either Srilankan or such origin.

Nerd
30th June 2011, 04:53 AM
This has to be his first hit which has stood the test of time. Though I have heard the songs app_e has listed so far, they are not popular during the 90s/00s.

Indha minminikku kaNNil oru minnal vandhadhu - Sauve. Serene. The nanana nanana nananana nananana naaaa to finish the charanam is just lovely. In loop today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF-wA3RW7u8

venkkiram
30th June 2011, 08:38 AM
ராஜாவின் பாடல்களுக்கான திரியில் சென்ற வருடம் நான் பதிவு செய்ததை இங்கு மீண்டும்..

ஒரு மூடன் கதை சொன்னால்...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAyt3YvX2mY&feature=fvw

சசிரேகா வாழ்க! நல்ல அரிதான பாடல்களை நிறைய சேகரித்து youtube-ல் வைத்திருக்கிறார்.

"நெஞ்சிலாடும் பூ ஒன்று" என்ற படமே வெளியாகாத படத்தில் ராஜாவின் அருமையான இசைக்கு ம.வாசுதேவன் பாடிய "ஒரு மூடன் கதை சொன்னால்.." இதற்கு ஒரு தலை ராகாம் படத்தின் காட்சிகளை நேர்த்தியாக சேர்த்திருக்கிறார்கள். ஆரம்ப இசையிலும், இரண்டாவது இடை இசையிலும் வரும் வீணை இசை சிறப்பு!

காதல் தோல்வியால் பெண்கள் சமூகத்தையே வெறுக்கும் காதலன்.. வரிகள் ஒவ்வொன்றும் அப்படியே comes from bottom of heart...அதுவும் ம.வாசுதேவனின் கணீர் குரலில் கோபம் கொப்பளிக்கிறது....

"கல்லை உடைத்தாலும் நீர் வரும்!
பாலைவனங்களோ அழகான பெண்களே!"
எந்த மடையனோ சொன்னான் சொர்க்கமாம்!
பெண்கள் உலகமே நரகமே!"

"ஒரு மூடன் கதை சொன்னான் என் கதை அதுதான்" என ஆரம்பம் முதல் கடைசி வரை எனக்கு இந்த வரிகளின் கட்டமைப்பு பிடித்திருக்கிறது. எதுகை மோனை இல்லாமல் அப்படியே சொல்லவெண்டிய விஷயத்தை சந்தத்தில் நெய்வது இசைக்கே தனி மதிப்பை தருகிறது...

venkkiram
30th June 2011, 08:45 AM
தென்னம் கீற்றும் தென்றல் காற்றும் - திரைப்படம் : முடிவல்ல ஆரம்பம்...

ராஜா இசையில் சுசிலாவுடன்.. அருமையான மெலடி.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fyvj9qMikjM

venkkiram
30th June 2011, 08:47 AM
தென்னம் கீற்றும் தென்றல் காற்றும் - திரைப்படம் : முடிவல்ல ஆரம்பம்...

ராஜா இசையில் சுசிலாவுடன்.. அருமையான மெலடி.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fyvj9qMikjM

app_engine
30th June 2011, 08:06 PM
This has to be his first hit which has stood the test of time.

I'm not sure if 'sevvanthippoo mudichcha chellakkA' continued to be popular (of 16V). Possibly...

If so, that predates 'indha minminikku' :-)

PARAMASHIVAN
30th June 2011, 08:25 PM
"intha minminuku kannil oru minnal vanthathE " by MV and SJ was a class! Esp the humming done by SJ ! :clap:

BTW, MV + SJ in sakalavallavan's "Nila kaayuthu" was romba over :lol2: :yessir:

app_engine
1st July 2011, 10:09 PM
Year 1978 possibly made MV a key singer in TFM. Like everyone else involved in that movie, MV too got a cracking start to a flourishing Kodambakkam career with 16 vayathinilE. (From that point, every actor / technician of that movie had a different level of recognition / status in the TF field, including Ilayaraja, IMO)

No wonder MV had a strong career after Attukkutti muttai ittu (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR0001'&lang=en) & sevvanthippoo mudichcha chellakkA (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR0004'&lang=en) !

Both songs had sappANi - Mayilu on screen :-)

PARAMASHIVAN
1st July 2011, 10:13 PM
Attukkutti muttai ittu (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR0001'&lang=en) & sevvanthippoo mudichcha chellakkA (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR0004'&lang=en) !

Both songs had sappANi - Mayilu on screen :-)

I always felt that MV and IR were "tailor" made for Folk like Village songs! :)

app_engine
6th July 2011, 12:16 AM
BR's first six movies had great songs by MV that I can quickly recall (all MD-ed by IR) :

16V:
Attukkutti muttai ittu
sevvanthippoo mudichcha chellakkA

KPR:
malarkaLE nAdhaswarangaL
kOvil maNi Osai thannai

SR:
indha minminikkukkaNNil oru minnal vandhadhu

PV:
vAn mEghangaLE

NMP:
Ayiram malarkaLE malarungaL

KE:
thOppiloru nAdagam nadakkudhu ElElangiLiyE
koththamallippoovE

The first BR movie without MV was nizhalgaL. MV was missed in the next two movies as well : alaigaL Oyvathillai & tik-tik-tik.

I'm not sure when BR did 'vAlibamE vA vA' with Karthik / Radha (whether before kAdhal Oviyam or after, can't remember), this had a sweet PS / MV number :

azhagE unnaikkonjam kaNkaL ezhudha vA, nenjam muzhudhum nee nee nee (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR3901'&lang=en)

BTW, Radha seems to have done max # of movies as an actor/actress with BR. (AO, TTT, VVV, KO, OKD, MM)

app_engine
7th July 2011, 02:45 AM
Continuing with the BR movies :

kadhal Oviyam - can't remember any MV song. It was SPB show all the way except one lone 'un poojaikkAga Engum poovai sooRaiyAdal muRaiyO' by Deepan C

maN vAsanai has two Malaysia Vasudevan songs :

-AnandhaththEn sindhum poonjOlaiyil
-arisi kuththum akkA makaLE

AVMin pudhumaippeN (enna oru aniyAyamAna pEr for this movie)
-Oh oru thenRal puyalAgi varudhE

oru kaidhiyin diary didn't have any

app_engine
7th July 2011, 02:52 AM
As someone mentioned in the outset, mudhal mariyAdhai album (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/album.php?ALBID=ALBIRR00382&lang=en) could have been sAmbAr without paruppu (or at least without uppu) but for MV!

Awesome singing of all those great numbers (I chose to include two of them in the pure folk category in the poll and voted for that category) :-)

-ERatha mala mElE elantha pazhuththirukku (what a kuRumbu by Vairamuththar)
-Eh kuruvi chittukkuruvi
-poongARRu thirumbumA? (why am I reminded of that joker in mozhi each time I hear this song :shock:)
-vetti vEru vAsam vedalappuLLa nEsam

fantastic, phenomenal songs!

app_engine
7th July 2011, 03:01 AM
After such a tremendous album, one would have thought that BR will use MV wholesale in the next movie (that he did with Sathyaraj; and it would have been a nice match for that hero).

Possibly IR thought otherwise and Jayachandran got the prize song of 'kodiyilE'.

IR himself sang two (dAs dAs & adi AththAdee happy version) and SPB took 'pOguthE pOguthE'.

So, MV had to be content with just one number - that too just the pathos version of 'adi AththAdee' (i.e. nee pOgum pAthai engE pon mAnE and not iLa manasonnu Rekka kattippaRakkudhu)...

PARAMASHIVAN
7th July 2011, 03:31 PM
Which movie is the song "aanatha thEn katrU thaalatuthu" from ? Here I felt MV tried or sounded like "yester year Singer" Chithamparam , the one who sung "kaa kaa kaa" from NT's Film, "Parashakthi" !

Plum
7th July 2011, 03:50 PM
Manippor Maamiyar. That singer you are talking about is Mu Karunanidhi's brother in law, Chidambaram Jayaraman.

PARAMASHIVAN
7th July 2011, 03:54 PM
Manippor Maamiyar. That singer you are talking about is Mu Karunanidhi's brother in law, Chidambaram Jayaraman.

Thanks , Yes I recall his name fully now! by the way, you forgot to mention "pillai" at the end :)

app_engine
7th July 2011, 06:16 PM
Another MV-CSJ number that gets mentioned in the hub from time to time is 'sondhangaLE, sollungaLE' (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR0116'&lang=en) from aduthAththu Albert. Check out how he sings 'dharmangaL vAzhattumE' :lol2:

Excellent orchestration by IR for this song! Check out the sweet prelude:-)

Nerd
7th July 2011, 06:22 PM
On MV-BR I think app will cover this too but can't resist. The only singer to have sung a duet with BR is MV :lol:

PARAMASHIVAN
7th July 2011, 06:23 PM
Another MV-CSJ number that gets mentioned in the hub from time to time is 'sondhangaLE, sollungaLE' (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR0116'&lang=en) from aduthAththu Albert. Check out how he sings 'dharmangaL vAzhattumE' :lol2:


App anna

Who is CSJ ?? Chithamparam S Jeyaraman ?? If So I am not the Only one who thought MV immitated Chithamparam Jeyaraman And TMS :lol2: So we can not just accuse "Sothapal Thilagam" for Immitating SPB :lol2: :yessir:

PARAMASHIVAN
7th July 2011, 08:25 PM
Revathi looks Cute :) Pandiyan :rotfl:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiDAKd2Jd48&feature=player_detailpage

app_engine
8th July 2011, 12:39 AM
Param,

MV's CSJ indulgences were quite deliberate (right from stage mimicry days) and done only rarely -possibly for curiosity / nostalgia value.

OTOH, >95% of his songs were done in his own style.

app_engine
8th July 2011, 12:41 AM
On MV-BR I think app will cover this too but can't resist. The only singer to have sung a duet with BR is MV :lol:

:confused: What song?

Nerd
8th July 2011, 01:07 AM
Kaadu potta kaadu from Karuthamma (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/album.php?ALBID=ALBARR00009)

BR's singing(?) is actually LOL worthy. MV OTOH is sublime

groucho070
8th July 2011, 07:11 AM
-vetti vEru vAsam vedalappuLLa nEsamMy favourite of the album, in fact my family's even back then when Poonggatru Thirumbuma was overplayed in the radio.

app_engine
8th July 2011, 09:53 AM
Kaadu potta kaadu from Karuthamma (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/album.php?ALBID=ALBARR00009)

BR's singing(?) is actually LOL worthy. MV OTOH is sublime

First time hearing this, MV is awesome!

PARAMASHIVAN
8th July 2011, 03:44 PM
Param,

MV's CSJ indulgences were quite deliberate (right from stage mimicry days) and done only rarely -possibly for curiosity / nostalgia value.


hmm, when I think of the song "காவியமா நெஞ்சில் ஓவியமா ", I find Similarities between CSJ and MV :)

app_engine
8th July 2011, 06:46 PM
Param,
Since CSJ-isms were quite peculiar / distinct / unique while easily imitable, most mimicry artists (on stage) sing the current popular song in that "style". Not just on stage, even at private settings - my uncles, cousins - everyone did that at some point of time.

Why, when in kushi mood and nobody around (say driving alone) even I do that along with the song that's being played :-) This morning's sufferers with CSJ-ism were 'EdhO mOham EdhO dhAham' & 'EdhEdhO eNNam vaLarththEn' :lol:

Such things are kochu kochu santhOshangaL in life :-)

SoftSword
8th July 2011, 07:26 PM
First time hearing this, MV is awesome!

:shock:vadi

PARAMASHIVAN
8th July 2011, 08:14 PM
Param,
Since CSJ-isms were quite peculiar / distinct / unique while easily imitable, most mimicry artists (on stage) sing the current popular song in that "style". Not just on stage, even at private settings - my uncles, cousins - everyone did that at some point of time.



Yes App anna,

I also do this immitation of NT, SPB, Rajni, MT, MNN, Raghuvaran , Karthik, etc :oops: :lol:

app_engine
8th July 2011, 08:37 PM
:shock:vadi

I've still not come out of my BR-enmity (for-leaving-IR)! Some kochu kochu veRuppukaL in life :-) I've watched later movies of directors who chose to dump IR only under involuntary / forced circumstances (like KB, MR, BR...) neither pay regular attention to music in such movies. (Nothing against ARR, BTW)

PARAMASHIVAN
8th July 2011, 08:40 PM
I've still not come out of my BR-enmity (for-leaving-IR)!

அடடே அரசியல்ல இதெல்லாம் சகஜம்பா :yessir:

app_engine
8th July 2011, 10:12 PM
BR's first movie without IR was 'vEdham puthithu' and Devendran was the MD, who did a very nice job (though sounding quite similar to IR...many websites even wrongly credit those songs to IR).

MV had a nice pathOs number 'mAttu vaNdi sAlaiyilE'.
(The more popular songs from that movie were 'kaNNukkuL nooru nilavA' by SPB-KSC, 'puththam puthu Olai varum' by KSC)...

(p.s. I've seen VP and found it a ok movie)

app_engine
8th July 2011, 10:26 PM
BR's next movie was with Rajinikanth-Amala, kodi paRakkuthu and the MD was Hamsaleka.

It had the SPB-KSC hit 'sElai kattum peNNukkoru'. There's one MV song with KSC that starts like 'thoNdaikkuLLE' which I've probably heard a few times on buses. The album's popularity level - despite being a Rajini movie and a star director - wasn't that high.

app_engine
8th July 2011, 10:38 PM
After those two movies, BR came back to Ilayaraja - even naming the movie's title as 'en uyir thOzhan'. ellAm sari but the resultant album was just an average one by rAsA standards. (Possibly the spark / extra effort for BR was no longer there).

There were two MV numbers and both are good.

I have seen the video of 'kuyilukkuppam, kuyilukkuppam gOpuram Anadhenna' (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR0791'&lang=en) which was quite impressive. Haven't seen the movie. This song was not as much popular as its recycle in Mano's voice - thooLiyilE Ada vantha vAnaththu min viLakkE (chinna thambi)

The other song 'Eh rAsAththi' (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR0794'&lang=en) is much better with vocal harmony etc but was only moderately popular I think...

app_engine
8th July 2011, 10:50 PM
The next BR movie - puthu nellu puthu nAththu - too had IR and was a better album (both the songs and the relative reception in the patti-thotti of TN where 'karuththa machchAn' was heard everywhere) but alas, no song for MV :-(

The BR-IR combo finally came back to full form in nAdOdi thenRal :-) With awesome songs!

MV had Ela mala kAttukkuLLE (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR2177'&lang=en), not a catchy number and so not as popular as others such as maNiyE maNikkuyilE / sandhana mArbilE, but a difficult number and one should listen to the excellent singing!

app_engine
9th July 2011, 12:10 AM
BR-IR combo once again broke up and these two have not worked together since then.

BR did another with Hamsaleka - captain magaL (no Vijayakanth biz, Kushbu supposedly had 'enthappeNNilum illAtha onRu') - but no MV song in this :-(

BTW, I don't think I watched any BR movie that came after vEdham puthithu (oh, except nAdOdi thenRal, the lagAn-predecessor) and am not thorough with the songs and such details of those.

Most of the info on those are sourced from web.

app_engine
10th July 2011, 10:26 PM
The songs that MV did for BR in the later years seems to be few here and there, unlike being a major contributor during the initial years of BR. May be more options available. May be MV got older (or quite busy in pursuits other than singing).

In any case, here're the numbers by MV for BR under ARR's baton (both I've not heard before) :

kizhakku cheemaiyilE : then kizhakku cheemaiyilE (with Chitra)
karuththammA : kAdu pottaikkAdu (with Bharathiraja)
dhAj mahAl : none
anthi manthArai : none
kaNkaLAl kaidhu sei : none

app_engine
10th July 2011, 10:29 PM
I have zero interest in digging for any MV song from the rest of the BR movies (where the likes of Deva has composed)...here is the list of other BR movies, someone please post if there is any MV number (along with links) :

pasum pon
thamizh sevan
eera nilam
kadal pookkaL
bommalAttam

app_engine
11th July 2011, 10:23 AM
Is there anyone interested in a similar listing of MV songs in association with K Bagyaraj as director?

(If no other volunteer, I will take it up nextu)

Plum
11th July 2011, 01:20 PM
:shock:vadi

idhukkE shockA? nAn innum oru vAtti kUda kEttadhillai :-)

Plum
11th July 2011, 01:23 PM
app, infact I was going to request you to take up Bhagyaraj-MV next. I can think of atleast 3 lovelies

kAdhal vaibogamE
Sugam SugamE (Vidiyum Varai kAthiru dhAnE idhu?)
Madana Moha rupa sundari

PARAMASHIVAN
11th July 2011, 03:38 PM
wasn't there a MV song along the lines of " Vaan megangale " ??

Plum
11th July 2011, 03:50 PM
Yes, Check Post #51 in this thread by app. Previous Page. Thank You for your understanding.

PARAMASHIVAN
11th July 2011, 03:56 PM
Thanks Plum :)

app_engine
11th July 2011, 05:35 PM
Sugam SugamE (Vidiyum Varai kAthiru dhAnE idhu?)


The VVK number was 'neengAtha eNNam onRu nenjOdu uNdu'. 'sugam sugamE, Ey, thodaththodath thAnE' is from nAn pOtta savAl (Rajinikanth movie)...

Nerd
11th July 2011, 06:09 PM
App/Plum must have heard poraaLE ponnuthaayi and possibly thenmerku paruvakkatru from Karuthamma. Kaadu Potta Kaadu was not very popular and I came to know that it was BR's voice 5 years back or something. Anyway love that song jusst for MV.


I have zero interest in digging for any MV song from the rest of the BR movies (where the likes of Deva has composed)...here is the list of other BR movies, someone please post if there is any MV number (along with links) :

pasum pon
thamizh sevan
eera nilam
kadal pookkaL
bommalAttam
MV had a song in Kadal PookkaL by Deva(one of his last songs I think). o gaama o gaaama (you read that right) some gibberish. Out of the movies listed Eeranilam by Sirpy had some catchy songs. Everything else simbly waste. Pasumpon's thaamarai poovukkum thannikkum ennaikkum sandaiyE vandhadhillai (by Krishnachander - Chitra Or Sujatha dont' remember) was very popular.

Google may have more info. But simbly no interest.

littlemaster1982
11th July 2011, 06:26 PM
Kaadu potta kaadu from Karuthamma (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/album.php?ALBID=ALBARR00009)

BR's singing(?) is actually LOL worthy. MV OTOH is sublime

I think it is Palakkad Sriram who sings with BR. But MV's name got mixed up in the credits (same thing happened for Vettri Kodi Kattu - Padaiyappa).

app_engine
11th July 2011, 06:27 PM
App/Plum must have heard poraaLE ponnuthaayi and possibly thenmerku paruvakkatru from Karuthamma.

Yes, these two were part of some ARR hits collection CD and played all the time at home, esp.'then mERkupparuvakkARRu' was such a big fav with us :-)

Nerd
11th July 2011, 06:43 PM
I think it is Palakkad Sriram who sings with BR. But MV's name got mixed up in the credits (same thing happened for Vettri Kodi Kattu - Padaiyappa).
Palakkad Sriram is MG Sreeram (Karisal tharisal from dhaaj magaal)?

Neenga sonnaa sariyaathaan irukkum but I am positive its MV's voice in KPK. Yugendhiran dhaan sollanum..

SoftSword
11th July 2011, 06:50 PM
App/Plum must have heard poraaLE ponnuthaayi and possibly thenmerku paruvakkatru from Karuthamma.

that was a decent hit movie and many times telecasted in tv.
so i assumed that they would hav watched it atleast once in which case there is all chances for them to have heard/overheard this song. that song actually worked in sych with the camera to show the pottal'kaadu in that story. adhaan shock'u.

littlemaster1982
11th July 2011, 07:11 PM
Palakkad Sriram is MG Sreeram (Karisal tharisal from dhaaj magaal)?

Neenga sonnaa sariyaathaan irukkum but I am positive its MV's voice in KPK. Yugendhiran dhaan sollanum..

Palakkad Sriram is different from MGS (MG Sreekumar). PS is the one who sung "Thiruppachi Aruvaala" & "Thaiyya Thaiyya". I remember seeing Sriram's name in Kaadu Potta Kaadu credits in a website (will search for that). I think Sriram is the third singer in this song.

priya32
11th July 2011, 07:17 PM
Anuradha Sriram thaanE husband and wife (singers)?

PARAMASHIVAN
11th July 2011, 07:21 PM
Anuradha Sriram thaanE husband and wife (singers)?

:roll: There was a male singer called Sriram introduced by ARR

Plum
11th July 2011, 07:35 PM
Sriram Parasuram - anuradha's husband
Sriram Parthasarathy - ilangaathu veesudhae
I don't know about Palakkad Sriram

app_engine
11th July 2011, 08:02 PM
dig

Look at this confusion of Srirams...had it been IR's period, one would have been renamed as 'GenO' and problem avoided :wink:

end-dig

app_engine
11th July 2011, 08:11 PM
K Bhagyaraj, a case of 'guruvai minjina sishyan', had been spectacularly successful for a period in TF. He started his career as assistant to Bharathiraja (also writing script / dialog etc for some movies, giving voice for the village doctor in 16 vayadhinilE, a small pattikkAttan role on screen in KPR - RadhikA'kku vazhi solluvAr - and a hapless bearer role in sigappu rOjAkkaL - gets killed inside rest room by the psychO hero) and became the hero in BR's movie pudhiya vArppukaL.

His first song as a hero, vAn mEghangaLE (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR2942'&lang=en), had the voice of none other than our Malaysia Vasudevan :-) Since then both shared a list of hits in a variety of ways, especially with KBR as director.

Let's celebrate this combo that was extremely successful in the early 80's!

Plum
11th July 2011, 09:43 PM
Right app - it is neengadha ennam ondru - adhu dhaan mindla irundhudhu. ezhudahrachE suam sugamE-nu vandhuruchu. Many a slip

app_engine
11th July 2011, 10:13 PM
KBR's next big hit after pudhiya vArppukaL was as a villain in 'kannipparuvaththilE'. This was a S A RajkaNNu production (who has a special place in TF history as the producer of 16 vayathinilE and also as producer of mahAnadhi - both landmark movies, it seems Kamal calls him 'mudhalALi'). KBR also did screenplay-dialog for this movie which was a big hit and the songs by Shankar-Ganesh played in every patti-thotti of TN, at times even eclipsing the contemporary IR hits.

Haven't seen the movie and so don't know who is on screen for each song (KBR or Rajesh). In any case, the big hit songs for MV were :

nadaya mAththu (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGSHK0058'&lang=en) (MV / SJ dappAnguththu with typical S-G percussions) - listen to this and one can't help but appreciate the stylish delivery of MV

pattu vaNNa rOsAvAm (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGSHK0060'&lang=en) (inspired by uchchi vaguntheduththu IMSO) - not a big fan of this number but I must acknowledge the phenomenal popularity of this number and an addition of variety to MV's kitty...

(BTW, my fav's from this album were SJ solos - adi ammAdi, one of S-G's best ever & AvAram poomEni -nalla thuLLal number)

PARAMASHIVAN
11th July 2011, 10:17 PM
yaaravathu KJY thread pakkamum vaanga, romba kaanch poi iruku :(

app_engine
12th July 2011, 12:03 AM
KBR's popularity graph was on the rise and he did his first directorial venture 'Bhama Rukmani'. (He married the co-actress in this movie, Praveena, who died within a few years and after that KBR married Poornima Jayaram). MSV was the MD and I don't think there was any MV song. ('nee oru kOdi malar koodi uruvAnavaL' by SPB-VJ had decent air time but was not a patti-thotti hit, same with the movie - it wasn't a big hit).

The next one 'suvar illAtha siththirangaL' had MV singing that sweet & energetic number 'kAdhal vaibOgamE' (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGGMN0033'&lang=en)with Janaki. Music by Gangai Amaran who perhaps had his first biggest hit song! (There are two other songs, 'Adidum OdamAi AnadhE kAdhalE' by SPB-SJ & welcome by SPB, IMO not as much popular as 'kAdhal vaibOgamE')

V_S
12th July 2011, 01:29 AM
giving voice for the village doctor in 16 vayadhinilE
And he is the one who comes in 'Manja Kulichi' song too right?

app_engine
12th July 2011, 02:09 AM
And he is the one who comes in 'Manja Kulichi' song too right?

Possible, I'm weak on 16V visuals - but heard the 'oli chithiram' many times and hence the vaiththiyar voice recognition :-)

Plum
12th July 2011, 11:53 AM
App, who sang "kadhava thiRadi bhama, en kAalu valikkalAmA?"

groucho070
12th July 2011, 12:04 PM
MV, for Baghyaraj.

Plum
12th July 2011, 01:20 PM
Ok, I asked because app mentioned that there was no MV song in Bhama-Rukmani. Had a vague memory of MV's voice in that song...

groucho070
12th July 2011, 01:51 PM
Yeah that's him. Pretty funny movie back then, wonder whether it holds up. I guess if IPNV does (not all) so would this.

app_engine
12th July 2011, 02:53 PM
Ok, I asked because app mentioned that there was no MV song in Bhama-Rukmani. Had a vague memory of MV's voice in that song...

I remember that song now :-) Yes, ofcourse it's MV for KBR!
(Forgot that it's from this Bhama Rukmani movie and no website seems to mention the song, Plum > google :wink:)

PARAMASHIVAN
12th July 2011, 03:04 PM
Sriram Parasuram - anuradha's husband
Sriram Parthasarathy - ilangaathu veesudhae
I don't know about Palakkad Sriram

All the answers are wrong! Sriram is Ayodhiya Not Palakkad :lol2:

Nerd
12th July 2011, 09:41 PM
Palakkad Sriram is different from MGS (MG Sreekumar). PS is the one who sung "Thiruppachi Aruvaala" & "Thaiyya Thaiyya". I remember seeing Sriram's name in Kaadu Potta Kaadu credits in a website (will search for that). I think Sriram is the third singer in this song.
Thanks for clearing the confusion. I think KPK is unmistakeably MV. I just listened to it twice. It does not sound like that vetrikkodi kattu singer at all.

Also, Monalisa from Mr. Romeo has two singers. MV sings the first pallavi and the charanam and somebody else sings the rest, forgot who.

Thenkizhakku cheemaiyilE is just MV (male singer). And he sings some gibberish in minsaara kanavu. So technically only 4 MV-ARR songs.

app_engine
12th July 2011, 09:49 PM
KBR's next movie, oru kai Osai, was a big hit (what a poetic title, KBR acted as oomai in that it seems). IR supposedly refused to do music for this (because KBR told IR that he as MD is a must , movie won't be made otherwise...rAsA's policy was to refuse such movies and see if those are made or not :lol: ).

I could only locate 'muthu thAragai' by SPB/VJ on the net from OKO (music MSV) . Plum / groucho, is there any MV song from oru kai Osai?

PARAMASHIVAN
12th July 2011, 09:55 PM
App anna

Pls confirm Raghevendra sir's doubt and my answer in S.P.Balsubramanium thread :)

app_engine
12th July 2011, 10:56 PM
App anna

Pls confirm Raghevendra sir's doubt and my answer in S.P.Balsubramanium thread :)

Two problems :

1. out of syllabus
2. no youtube at the moment :-)

littlemaster1982
12th July 2011, 11:12 PM
Thanks for clearing the confusion. I think KPK is unmistakeably MV. I just listened to it twice. It does not sound like that vetrikkodi kattu singer at all.


I just listened to KPK after a long time. It's MV without doubt. Sorry for confusing everyone :oops: Wish ARR had used him more :(

app_engine
13th July 2011, 01:26 AM
sumall recall...

Earlier I posted MV didn't have any song in OKD of BR (there's some KBR connection too, kadhai-vachanam).

MV acted as a villain in that movie, however. puccA politician role, kachchithamA thachcha satta mAthiri irukkum. (The expression that Radha gives when MV becomes "munivar" is indelible in mind :wink:)




munivar = muRRum thuRandhavar

groucho070
13th July 2011, 07:21 AM
Can remember the movie, app. Not even the songs, sorry.

app_engine
13th July 2011, 07:58 AM
Can remember the movie, app. Not even the songs, sorry.

Well, this link (http://www.inbaminge.com/t/o/Oru%20Kai%20Osai/)has all the songs of oru kai Osai - no MV confirmed. (There is a MSV sung number, however)...uthirippookkaL Aswini is the heroine, so azhugai gyAranti!

groucho070
13th July 2011, 08:28 AM
Okay, thanks. Too insignificant a movie for me to remember. Poi Satchi keep coming to my mind. But I'll wait for you to get there.

app_engine
13th July 2011, 09:59 AM
KBR-GA combo hit the jackpot with 'mouna geethangaL' - one of the biggest non-IR hits of those times. The movie itself was a smashing success (with part of the scenes appearing in Kumudam as thodarkadhai with actual movie stills and ending as 'meethi veLLiththiraiyil', thus getting the interesting story lot of popularity). The songs were allover TN - much like a typical rAsA hit (radio / teakkadai / bus / loudspeakers / recording centers / functions / thiruvizhas etc).

'dAddee dAddee O my dAddee unnaikkaNdAlE AnandhamE' in the child voice of SJ was in everyone's muNu muNuppu those days. MV sang like a responsible, at-fault-dad ('adhu pOla ammAvum nammOda kaikOrththu anbOdu viLaiyAda manam EnguthE'). The song has some nice kuRumbu ("appAkkaL sila pEru seikinRa thappaiththAn..." & "adhu enna thappu?" and the subsequent lines between the son & dad).

I have not seen the movie but read the kumudam story and with those stills, it came alive to me. I think it was a 'A' padam with Saritha the wronged-wife.

'mAdhamO mArgazhi mAdham' was another MV-SJ duet hit from this movie. The KJY-SJ number 'mookkuththippoo mElE kAththu' was extremely popular as well! (I think there was a pathos version of that too)

With MG, KBR became the numero uno director in the BO context...

groucho070
13th July 2011, 10:04 AM
GA-va? I'd always thought it was SG. One of those songs where SJ was tolerable doing the kid voice.

app_engine
13th July 2011, 10:10 AM
GA-va? I'd always thought it was SG. One of those songs where SJ was tolerable doing the kid voice.

I believe they show IR in the titles as a cartoon character, writing notes...GA - another cartoon char - steals some of them (or poRukkify some discards) and runs away to become composer :-)

groucho070
13th July 2011, 10:23 AM
:lol: Can't remember. Those days GA actually was proud to be under IR's shadow.

app_engine
13th July 2011, 10:49 AM
Interestingly, despite the huge success of mouna geethangaL music, I don't think KBR & GA worked together again :confused: Their prior combo of suvar illAtha siththirangaL was decent as well.

A real mystery! Or, perhaps that was KBR style - keep switching MDs to prove that he is the real stuff and others are just technicians...or, perhaps he was thrilled to be accepted by IR and kazhaRRified GA...

In any case, KBR-IR combo continued to give some nice songs to our thread nAyakan, MV in their hit combos :-)

app_engine
13th July 2011, 10:35 PM
IR, who did hero-KBR's first song with MV singing 'vAn mEghangaLE' (watch the video for some funny lip movements of Rati Agnihotri), finally joined hands with director-KBR in 'inRu pOi nALai vA'. It was only a moderate success musically. Possibly a BO hit but not to the proportion of mouna geethangaL.

MV had 3 out of 4 songs in that album (TL Maharajan, brother of Deepan Chakravarthy and s/o Trichy Loganathan of 'AsaiyE alai pOle' / 'adikkiRa kai thAn aNaikkum' did the indhi song - mEri pyAri)

MV's songs :

ammAdi chinnappAppA, reNdu kaNNAla ennappAththA (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR1138'&lang=en) (typical IR brand funny dappAnguththu, cakewalk for MV)

pala nAL Asai thirunAL Achchu (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR1141'&lang=en) (duet with PS, MV does with ease, enjoyed some radio time)

madhana mOga roopa sundari (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR1140'&lang=en) (the best song in the album, MV with SP Shailaja, IR making some MKT-style song / repeats interludes, thiraippAdal has swapped the links of this song and mEri pyAri)

app_engine
14th July 2011, 01:29 AM
groucho,

"oru kai Osai" getting featured in IR's varalARRu suvadukaL...

http://tfmpage.com/my/md/ilayaraja/suvadugal/DhinaThanthi_Ilaiyaraaja_Article_2007_07_18.jpg

The pdf's archived in tfmpage (http://tfmpage.com/my/md/ilayaraja/suvadugal/) are some interesting reading material...

app_engine
14th July 2011, 01:42 AM
From the above pdf:



“அலைகள் ஓய்வதில்லை” படத்தின் மூலம் தயாரிப்பாளர் ஆன பாஸ்கர், அடுத்து ஏதாவது படம் தயாரிக்க வேண்டும் என்ற எண்ணத்துடன் என்னிடம் வந்தார். பஞ்சு சாரின் வீட்டில் இருதேன்.

அப்போது, அங்கே அமர் (கங்கை அமரன்) இருந்ததைப் பார்த்து, “அமர் டைரக்ஷனில் படத்தை எடு. படத்தின் பெயர் “கோழி கூவுது” என்றேன். மதுரையில் நாங்கள் நடத்திய நாடகத்தின் பெயர் அது.

நான் சொன்னதை அமர் ஏற்றுக்கொண்டு, ஒரு கதையை உருவாக்கி, பிரபுவை ஹீரோவாகப் போட்டு படம் எடுத்தான்.

அவன் எனக்குப் போட்டியாக இசை அமைப்பாளராக வந்துவிடக்கூடாது என்பதற்காக டைரக்ட் செய்யச் சொன்னேன் என்று டெலிவிஷன் பேட்டிகளில் அமர் சொல்வது வழக்கம்.

அவன் எனக்குப் போட்டியா, இல்லையா என்பது அவனுக்கே தெரியும்!”

:lol2:

groucho070
14th July 2011, 07:29 AM
App, those are treasures. Thanks.

PARAMASHIVAN
14th July 2011, 03:54 PM
Rakesh bhai

So we ( Me and Plum ) have successfully defeated your plans in this section :lol2: I hope you know what I mean :lol2: :lol2:

J/king :)

app_engine
14th July 2011, 10:41 PM
App, those are treasures. Thanks.

yw, groucho!

Those articles are real treasures and I was waiting each day to read when they appeared on the newspaper website.

Such sharing of titbits by Raja himself was a "rErO rare" thingy, even for people who followed rAsA from annakkiLi days.

rajasaranam opened a thread in the IR forum and they were discussed chudachchuda as and when they appeared on dinathanthi.

Later, the archive was made available by RR sir.

app_engine
14th July 2011, 10:53 PM
KBR-IR's next combo was 'vidiyum varai kAthiru' where MV had the nice song Plum already mentioned.

neengAtha eNNam onRu nenjOdu uNdu (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR4058'&lang=en) is a sweet song by MV-SJ (oru shAjahan oru dEvadAs v/s oru jAnaki oru kaNNaki :lol:) in the crime thriller where KBR tries to get rid of his wife. (rich lady but with mental problem).

sumAr hit (both song and movie). SPB's pEsu en anbE got discussed recently here (http://www.mayyam.com/talk/showthread.php?8541-The-Golden-Era-of-Dr.IR-and-Dr.SPB&p=705652&viewfull=1#post705652)

groucho070
15th July 2011, 07:11 AM
Rakesh bhai

So we ( Me and Plum ) have successfully defeated your plans in this section :lol2: I hope you know what I mean :lol2: :lol2:

Jokes aside, I don't know what you mean. What plans? Here's my complimentary offering of the same: :lol2:

PARAMASHIVAN
15th July 2011, 03:26 PM
Jokes aside, I don't know what you mean. What plans? Here's my complimentary offering of the same: :lol2:

Flau Uncle will answer this :yessir:

baroque
16th July 2011, 10:27 PM
தபலா இளையராஜா's ஏத்தமையா ஏத்தம்... புல்லாங்குழல் for folk melody

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH7IFmQf3SU

:musicsmile:

vinatha

app_engine
18th July 2011, 07:39 AM
KBR employed Shankar-Ganesh for his next movie darling-darling-darling (1982) where his would-be-wife Poornima acted with him and it was a successful movie. Songs were decent hits (O nenjE nee dhAn by SPB the most popular followed by azhagiya vizhikaLil aRubadhu kalaikaLum by SPB-VJ).

MV had a 'my dear my sweet darling, come hear' (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGSHK0030'&lang=en) song, which got played here and there but wasn't as popular as the other two SPB numbers.

app_engine
18th July 2011, 07:48 AM
KBR came back to MV in his hugely succesful village movie where IR was the composer - thooRal ninnu pOchchu!

Interestingly, KBR also had a couple of KJY numbers which were immensely popular (& classy) as well!

thangachchangili minnum paingiLi (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR3686'&lang=en) - MV / SJ delectable number
thAlAtta nAn poRanthEn thAlE thAlElO (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR3685'&lang=en) - MV solo, thuLLal number, hero ridiculing the innocence of the heroine (who has no clue about what happens after marriage)

The biggest hit, though, was 'En sOga kathayakkELu thAikkulamE' (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR3682'&lang=en) :lol: The MV number that featured KBR in association with MN Nambiar who did a very interesting role in this movie that intro'd Sulakshana.

baroque
18th July 2011, 08:59 AM
பாக்யராஜ் is very interesting . He knows to tell ஸ்டோரீஸ். true romantic:clap:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_obVXcywTo

ஓடுகிற தண்ணியில.......அச்சமில்லை அச்சமில்லை....வாசு & ஜானு.

amazing album, அச்சமில்லை அச்சமில்லை:thumbsup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afxrf7OGddI&feature=related

lilting joyous tune, train bgm, flute , strings, chorus, Vasu's vocal
adi aadu....KAALI.
Early Ilayaraja's masterpiece!:musicsmile::bluejump:
vinatha.

app_engine
19th July 2011, 09:05 AM
KBR did a very succesful movie with MSV just around the same time (most probably before 'thooRal ninnu pOchchu', someone please post if this is correct - as always my memory is poor when it comes to non-IR albums), wOh sAt din's original. Possibly the only Ambika movie I liked other than nAn pAdum pAdal. (Ofcourse she was horrible in the last scene).

Interestingly, he chose PJ as the mainstay singer and the songs were a roaring success (kavidhai arangERum nEram, thenRaladhu unnidaththil, thanam thaththanam).

Not forgetting MV, KBR-MSV combo gave him a song with VJ - 'eNNi irundhadhu eedERa' and this was a big hit as well.

See and have a hearty laugh as KBR tries to do a MGR act :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvgB_t5VbMg

groucho070
19th July 2011, 09:43 AM
This is the movie that I officially fell in love with Ambi chechi. Looks great in the Kavithai Aranggerum Neram :oops:

app_engine
19th July 2011, 06:32 PM
KBR's ascension reached its peak in mundhAnai mudichchu. The biggest hit in his career and not matched by any of his movies thereafter.

MV had two songs - patti thotti hits - but both mukkal / munakal type songs, one for Unni Mary combo & another for Oorvasi combo - reNdumE maRRa rakam.

kaNNaththoRakkaNum sAmee (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR2107'&lang=en) The pallavi was a recycle of 'nAn thAndA ippO dEvadass' from thanikkAttu rAjA - the Oorvasi murungaikkAi number

vA vA vAththiyArE vA (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR2109'&lang=en) The Unni Mary teacher number where SPS tried to do SJ-like thingy in the prelude.

AVM + IR = mukkal munakal :-(

PARAMASHIVAN
19th July 2011, 06:49 PM
This is the movie that I officially fell in love with Ambi chechi. Looks great in the Kavithai Aranggerum Neram :oops:

வீட்ல இந்த விஷயம் தெரியுமா :lol2:

baroque
19th July 2011, 08:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_KSEXrU8p0

teasing mirundhangam with playful violin & flute.:swinghead: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_KSEXrU8p0)
One of my favorite early Ilayaraja.

I thrive in Raaja's upbeat mood whole day!:musicsmile: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_KSEXrU8p0)

Shri.Ilayaraja THE MASTER OF NEW AGE FUSION:happydance: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_KSEXrU8p0)

Artist Rajini is my choice

maappilaikku maaman manasu.....karaharapriya. :musicsmile: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_KSEXrU8p0)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjeatX2NKgk&feature=related

Plum
20th July 2011, 12:50 PM
Oh yeah App, sharp observation. AVM +IR = mukkal munagal, although Balu Mahendra didnt do any better with ponmEni. Is there a way we can get an instrumental version - I mean with vocals and all but the mukkals translated to instrumental sounds?
app, one Q. DO you play these songs on your loop on Car audio when travelling with family(or even otherwise)?

PARAMASHIVAN
20th July 2011, 04:01 PM
Flau anneh

We need to keep this thread, PJ thread and KJY thread ahead of "Sothappal thilagam" thread. Come on !

Plum
20th July 2011, 05:03 PM
Faram's - I am not obsessed as you are :-)

I am content with poking the baloon created on behalf of You-Know-Who by praising his mediocre songs

PARAMASHIVAN
20th July 2011, 05:05 PM
Faram's - I am not obsessed as you are :-)

I am content with poking the baloon created on behalf of You-Know-Who by praising his mediocre songs

I am not obsessed at all, summa joking! Life na oru Thrill venumla :lol:

PARAMASHIVAN
20th July 2011, 08:34 PM
"Aappakadai Annakili " From Rajni's paayum puli is one hell of a song by MV, just listen to that beat of the song, only IR possible ! I was quite :shock: to see susheela madam singing a dapanguthu song !

Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdeaqMGPQSY&feature=player_detailpage

app_engine
20th July 2011, 09:30 PM
app, one Q. DO you play these songs on your loop on Car audio when travelling with family(or even otherwise)?

:lol: Good question :-)

Most of them aren't available in ANY media in my world (other than internet which is never accessed from car). One or two 'not so bad' ones sneake thru (adukku malligai, siva rAththiree and recently thEdi vandha dEvadhaiyE) but they are played only when there's no child in the car - not so much on loop however.

(It's different story altogther in my wife's lorry where at least the 5 yr old's presence is a given and the 30gb HDD there has a large selection of wholesome songs. In addition, most of the time even they don't get played as the Tom & Jerry / Madagaskar kind of DVDs rule)

app_engine
21st July 2011, 08:29 PM
Looks like I missed KBR's poi sAtchi but it was never in my scheme of things...Shankar Ganesh music and don't recall any songs - MV or otherwise, if someone recalls please post here. Faint memory of seeing a KBR-Radhika poster (rare case of KBR repeating his girl, those days it was one new girl for him in every new movie)...

V_S
21st July 2011, 09:04 PM
This is the movie that I officially fell in love with Ambi chechi. Looks great in the Kavithai Aranggerum Neram :oops:
+1000 Yes what a coincidence. :lol: Our classmates used to carry big posters of Ambika those days. Starting from this film, Engeyo Kaetta Kural, SKV, Naan Paadum Paadal and I think till Idaya Koyil we were all big fans of Ambika.

V_S
21st July 2011, 09:06 PM
App, Superb posts here again and bringing back some golden days. :thumbsup:

app_engine
21st July 2011, 09:39 PM
nanRi, V_S!

I must admit that though I enjoyed a lot of MV songs those days, I didn't have him as a fav singer (SPB / KJY craze the first reason, the higher % of dappAnguththu songs that MV got the other reason)...but after seeing who came after this trio in TFM (pathetikkO pathetikku IMO), his stature has grown leaps and bounds in my reckoning :thumbsup:

app_engine
21st July 2011, 09:57 PM
BTW, KBR's girls list :

puthiya vArppukaL - Rati Agnihotri
kannipparuvaththilE - Vadivukkarasi
suvar illAtha siththirangaL - Sumathy
Bhama Rukmani - Praveena
oru kai Osai - Aswini
mouna geethangaL - Sarita
indRu pOi nALai vA - Radhika
vidiyum varai kAthiru - Sathyakala
darling^3 - Poornima
andha 7 nAtkaL - Ambika
poi sAtchi - Radhika? (repeat)
thooRal ninnu pOchchu - Sulakshana
mundhanai mudichchu - Oorvasi
thAvaNikkanavukaL - Radhika (repeat)
enga chinna rAsA - Radha
idhu namma ALu - Shobana
(don't know his other movies but possibly he kept changing the lead lady in each one, so pombaLai Rajinikanth is an exception for KBR)

HonestRaj
21st July 2011, 10:14 PM
chinna veedu - kalpana

PARAMASHIVAN
21st July 2011, 10:26 PM
chinna veedu - kalpana

ithu veraiya :lol2: :yessir:

app_engine
22nd July 2011, 12:51 AM
ithu veraiya

Actually, that one was the 'periyyya' veedu there (chinna veedu is another, name can't remember) :lol2:

How did I miss that movie in the list? :shock: It was by IR!

Anyways, it had that sweet 'veLLai manam uLLa machchAn' (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR0539'&lang=en)by MV with Sunanda which was reasonably popular.

chinna veedu had another MV song jAmam AkippOchchu En mAmO mAmOi (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR0536'&lang=en)not so much of a hit but our man singing effortlessly with Chitra.

The prior KBR movie dhAvaNikkanavukaL (that had Bharathiraja doing a gaurava role, Radha doing a dance and also Sivaji Ganesan) didn't have any MV song :-(

venkkiram
22nd July 2011, 08:31 AM
காதல் நிலவே (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs=%27SNGIRR3912%27&lang=en)

இந்தப் பாடலை இதுவரை கேட்காமல் எப்படி தவறவிட்டேன் எனத் தெரியவில்லை. ம .வாசுதேவன் - மால்குடி சுபா என்ற பெயர்களைப் பார்த்தவுடனே ஏதாவது ஒரு புதையல் இருக்க வாய்ப்பிருக்கிறதே என்ற எண்ணம் பாடல் கேட்டவுடன் சரியே என ஊர்ஜிதமாயிற்று. நேற்றுதான் முதன் முறையாக கேட்கிறேன். இந்த நிமிடம் வரை எத்தனை முறை இப்பாடலை கேட்டுவருகிறேன் என்ற கணக்கு இல்லாமல் .. படம் பெயர் வாசுகி.. பழைய பாடகர்கள் பாடும் தொனியில் பாடுவதே கடினமான செயல். அதிலும் சுருதி பிசகாமல் தெளிவான சொல்லோசையுடன் பாடி அசத்தியிருக்கிறார் ம.வாசுதேவன். உச்சத்தை அடைவது இறுதியில் என்பதற்கிணங்க , ஒவ்வொரு சரணமும் முடியும் தருவாயில் உச்சத்தை தொடுகிறார் ம.வாசுதேவன் . "தவிப்பதா ..இன்னும் துடிப்பதா .." என்ற சரணத்தின் இறுதியும் அதைத் தொடர்ந்தது வரும் பல்லவியும் மலையுச்சியிலிருந்து குதித்து அப்படியே பாராஷூட்டை விரித்து பள்ளத்தாக்கில் இறங்கி ஓடுவதற்கு சமம். தேர்ந்த பாடகர் இவர் என பறைசாற்ற இந்த ஒரு பாட்டு போதும் என நினைக்கிறேன். சுபாவின் குரல் மயிலிறகால் வருடி விடுகிறது. ராஜாவின் மேற்கத்திய இசை - ஒரு சுகானுபவம் . தாலாட்டுகிறது.

Plum
22nd July 2011, 10:33 AM
puthiya vArppukaL - Rati Agnihotri
kannipparuvaththilE - Vadivukkarasi
suvar illAtha siththirangaL - Sumathy
Bhama Rukmani - Praveena and?
oru kai Osai - Aswini
mouna geethangaL - Sarita
indRu pOi nALai vA - Radhika
vidiyum varai kAthiru - Sathyakala and Radhika?

darling^3 - Poornima
andha 7 nAtkaL - Ambika
poi sAtchi - Radhika? (repeat)
thooRal ninnu pOchchu - Sulakshana
mundhanai mudichchu - Oorvasi and Unni Mary/Deepa?

thAvaNikkanavukaL - Radhika (repeat)
enga chinna rAsA - Radha
idhu namma ALu - Shobana


?????? - Rohini
Rudra - Gowthami
En Raththathin Raththame - Meenakshi Seshadri
Raasukutty - Aishwarya Lakshmi
Oru Oorile Oru Rajakumari - Meena
Veetla Visheshanga - Pragathi and ?????

vetti madichu kattu - ?????

Plum
22nd July 2011, 10:33 AM
Actually, that one was the 'periyyya' veedu there (chinna veedu is another, name can't remember) :lol2:

Thulasi I think. The same one in Mahanadhi.

PARAMASHIVAN
22nd July 2011, 03:20 PM
vaa vaa vasanthamE is from "Puthu kavithai" right ?? IIRC it must be one of the few Rajni films without SPB :(

PARAMASHIVAN
22nd July 2011, 08:53 PM
vetti madichu kattu - ?????[/COLOR] Nagma :lol2:

app_engine
22nd July 2011, 09:23 PM
it must be one of the few Rajni films without SPB :(

No way, there are many (more than 10%) :-)

Partial list here, Rajini movies with no SPB song
(many featured MV, some without him)

16 vayathinilE (MV there, but no song for Rajini)
apoorva rAgangaL (possibly no song for Rajini)
bhairavi (TMS)
dharma yudhdham (MV)
engEyO kEtta kural (MV)
gAyathri (possibly no song for Rajini)
kavikkuyil (possibly no song for Rajini)
kusElan
mAveeran (MV)
moonRu mudichchu (MSV)
murattukkALai (MV)
nAn pOtta savAl (MV)
pANdiyan (Mano)
priyA (KJY)
puthukkavithai (MV, KJY)
sri rAgavEndrA (MV, KJY)
thAi meethu sathiyam (TMS)
thee (MV, PJ)

:-)

app_engine
22nd July 2011, 09:26 PM
Then there are some movies where SPB is featured, but not for Rajinikanth...like 'nAn vAzha vaippEn', the Rajini song is by KJY while SPB sings for Sivaji I think. (No MV in that movie, though)

nallavanukku nallavan - KJY sings for Rajini, SPB sings muththAduthE for Karthik...there is a MV song, 'namma muthalALi nalla muthalALi'...

PARAMASHIVAN
22nd July 2011, 09:28 PM
App anna ,

To be excat it is around 12% , based on (18/151) *100 = 11.9

18 is derived from the list you gave and 151 is the total film Rajni has acted (I think) :roll:

By the way, who was the heroine in kavikuyil ?? BTW, Pandiyan's Failure Largely due to our "sothappal Thilagam" :banghead:

app_engine
22nd July 2011, 09:29 PM
Plum,
I don't think chiththeeee is there in VV kAthiru, it's another "chinna veedu" kind of actress.

So, the statement that none other than Radhika got repeated by KBR seems to be correctu. Radhika featured at least on three (IPNV, PS, TK)

PARAMASHIVAN
22nd July 2011, 09:30 PM
and yeah "apoorva raagangal" was his debut and that was guest role so no song for him, Gayathiri did not have any song as well, I really wonder why he chose to act in such pathetic film!

app_engine
22nd July 2011, 09:32 PM
Param,
I don't know about the 151 that you're talking about...thiraippadal has 100 albums of Rajini and I got 18 from there. The rest may have to be listed to find out presence / absence of SPB...

BTW, most films in the pre-90's era where SPB is featured, MV also found his presence, at least one song. (e.g. aduththa vArisu, primarily SPB album, had MV doing the famous Asai nooRu vakai ; thambikku entha ooru had 'AsaikkiLiye araikkilO puLiyE' etc)...

PARAMASHIVAN
22nd July 2011, 09:41 PM
BTW, most films in the pre-90's era where SPB is featured, MV also found his presence, at least one song. (e.g. aduththa vArisu, primarily SPB album, had MV doing the famous Asai nooRu vakai ; thambikku entha ooru had 'AsaikkiLiye araikkilO puLiyE' etc)...

Yes that's true !

PARAMASHIVAN
22nd July 2011, 09:52 PM
BTW, most films in the pre-90's era where SPB is featured, MV also found his presence, at least one song. (e.g. aduththa vArisu, primarily SPB album, had MV doing the famous Asai nooRu vakai ; thambikku entha ooru had 'AsaikkiLiye araikkilO puLiyE' etc)...

But it is not like this with Kamal films, I can hardly remember a Kamal film without SPB, with the excemptions of "Kalyaana Raaman", "Oru Kaithiyin diary" ?? :roll:

Nerd
22nd July 2011, 10:06 PM
Last MV song for Rajini is Singam onru purappattadhE (Arunachalam) by Deva? MV sounded awesome and sang with great energy. Deva also came up with some nice arrangements. Mediocre/copied tune not withstanding.

And that has to be one of his last songs. His number in the 00s will be < 10 I guess. I still don't know what his last was (discounting that single line he sang in Bale Pandiya (2010)).

app_engine
22nd July 2011, 11:09 PM
I can hardly remember a Kamal film without SPB

Right from the list for Rajini, few examples - 16 vayathinile / apoorva rAgangaL / moonRu mudichchu.

Anyways, there are a handful of KH movies without SPB. Look at the following (out of total 83 that thiraippAdal has) :

16 vayathinilE (MV)
ALa vanthAn
apoorva rAgangaL
avaL appadiththAn
dasAvathAram
guNA
hEy rAm
kadal meenkaL (MV)
kAdhalA kAdhalA
kalyANa rAman (MV)
manmadhan ambu
mumbai express
nAyakan
oru kaidhiyin diary
pammal k sambandham
panchathanthiram
sathi leelAvathi
sigappu rOjAkkaL (MV)
soora samhAram
tik tik tik
unnaippOl oruvan
vasool rAjA MBBS
vEttaiyAdu viLaiyAdu
virumANdi

count already 24...% higher than Rajinikanth. Ofcourse, he didn't use MV in most cases here. It was himself / KJY / others

app_engine
24th July 2011, 03:10 AM
We've done some recall of MV+BR & MV+KBR combo and some hits that happened during the ascension of all these three into popularity in the TF scenario.

Since Param has steered the thread toward the two biggies whose TF carrier graph's ascension somewhat coincided with the rise of MV as a star singer, it would be worthwhile to do a similar recall for their popular numbers with MV.

Let start with Kamal who got phenomenal acclaim with 16V where MV had his big initial success.

We've already talked about the two famous number in a few posts, let's get those youtubes and relish.

First, sevvanthippoo mudichcha chellakkA :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyEhFYsYjSc

app_engine
24th July 2011, 03:14 AM
Another link for the same song sung by MV with Suseela:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtnqN5yu220

Find below the 'Attukkutti muttai ittu', a popular MV / SJ number :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH_F1OZSajo

app_engine
24th July 2011, 07:00 PM
The next biggies of KH that featured MV were sattam en kaiyil (TN Balu) and iLamai oonjalAdukiRadhu (Sridhar), both had Ilayaraja music.

thaNNee karuththiruchchu kaNNu thavaLa saththam kEtturuchchu (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR1096'&lang=en) of IO was a patti-thotti hit in TN, establishing MV as the most preferred singer for any such themmAngu songs for decades thereafter. The beatsly, folksy number was such a craze among schoolboys who can sing tapping the rhythm on any kind of surface available to them :lol:

kadaiththEngAyO vazhippiLLaiyAro (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR3249'&lang=en) in SEK was quite a popular number as well, on buses and tea stalls. Helped getting MV's voice etched in the minds of a generation.

That movie also had this supposedly unpicturized duet Azhakkadalil thEdiya muththu (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR3248'&lang=en) with SJ that was quite popular on radio and otherwise. Perhaps the first "soft" number for MV-KH combo...

There is this mimicry comical song mErA nAmu abdullA, Avo piyA rasagullA (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR3250'&lang=en) in SEK that had some attention as it had a number of movie names getting dished out (AttukkAra alamElu, hum kisisE kammu nahi kammu nahi), possibly the forerunner of 'nEththu rAththiri ammA' ...

app_engine
24th July 2011, 07:13 PM
thaNNee karuththiruchchu is available on youtube (for adults only).

The other two (kadaththEngAi & mErA nAmu) could not be easily located on youtube...some HCKHF may know the links...

V_S
24th July 2011, 08:28 PM
I could not find the songs video, but we have film video, but both the songs are part of two videos. Thanks to the youtube uploaders. Here it is:
Kadai thengaayo - My favorite MV sir song and one of the frequently heard songs. I love this film too, but this song was actually introduced by my nephew who worked in army that time. He used to always sing this song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGemaJ9KDbg&feature=related (from 13:18)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EUfaST3Ww8 (continued here)

Mera naamu Abdulla
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6JlH8F0cx0&feature=related (from 12:24)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdIslmta8QY&feature=related (continued here)

app_engine
24th July 2011, 10:17 PM
V_S,

யூட்யூப் திலகம் ஐயா நீர்!

:clap: for the hard work!

HonestRaj
24th July 2011, 10:54 PM
listened to this beautiful MV number from

"Malargale Nadha Swarangal" (Kizhake Pogum Rayil) :clap: :clap:

V_S
24th July 2011, 11:36 PM
Thanks App :smile: In a hurry I copied same link twice above for Kadai Thengayo. Updated now. All credit to the uploaders.

venkkiram
25th July 2011, 08:27 AM
தோராயமாக இருபது வருடத்திற்கு அப்புறம் ஒரு பாடலை கேட்கிறேன். படம் தைப்பொங்கல் (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/album.php?ALBID=ALBIRR00624&lang=en) (1980). பாடல் : "எந்தாத்து பையனவன்?"

கண் மலர்களின் அழைப்பிதழ், தீர்த்த கரைதனிலே போன்ற புகழ் பெற்ற பாடல்களுக்கு மத்தியில் இது காணாமல் போனது.

சிறார் பருவம். தெரு முனையில் வசித்த ஒருவரது எல்.பி ரெக்கார்டு செட்டில் அடிக்கடி தைப்பொங்கல் படப்பாடல்கள் ஒலிக்கும். ம.வாசுதேவனின் தடித்த கம்பீர குரல் காற்றை கிழித்து வரும். ஆரம்பமே ஷைலஜாவின் அழகான ஆலாபனையோடு தொடங்குகிறது. முதல் சரணம் ரொம்பப் பிடிக்கும். இதுபோன்று மெட்டமைப்பது, அதற்கான வரிகளை கட்டமைப்பது இதெல்லாம் ஆயிரத்தில் ஒன்று என்ற வகையில் நிகழக்கூடியவை. இரண்டாவது சரணத்தில் ஜானகியோடு கூட்டணி சேருகிறார் ம.வாசுதேவன். இரு இடையிசைகளிலும் நாதஸ்வர ஒலி மனதை மயக்குகிறது.

சிறார் பருவ நினைவுகளை மீட்டெடுத்த இந்தப் பாடல் தொடர்ந்து மனதில் ரீங்காரமிட்டுக்கொண்டே இருக்கிறது. ராஜாவுக்கு நன்றி!

app_engine
25th July 2011, 09:36 AM
தோராயமாக இருபது வருடத்திற்கு அப்புறம் ஒரு பாடலை கேட்கிறேன். படம் தைப்பொங்கல் (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/album.php?ALBID=ALBIRR00624&lang=en) (1980). பாடல் : "எந்தாத்து பையனவன்?"

This must be a thiraippAdal error - entha Aththuppaiyanavan was from 'iLayarAjavin rasigai' - an unreleased movie! (I've written about this only a few days back in some other thread...)

Plum
25th July 2011, 02:29 PM
Plum,
I don't think chiththeeee is there in VV kAthiru, it's another "chinna veedu" kind of actress.

So, the statement that none other than Radhika got repeated by KBR seems to be correctu. Radhika featured at least on three (IPNV, PS, TK)
"'neengAtha eNNam onRu nenjOdu uNdu'" - indha pAttula yaru App?

And I vaguely remember KBR-Radhika cavorting freely indoor in some song - jumping around sofa etc. What song is that?

PARAMASHIVAN
25th July 2011, 03:29 PM
thaNNee karuththiruchchu is available on youtube (for adults only).

Appa anna,

Songs these days are far worse than this. I mean the picturisation. This is one thing that irritated me about KB, people say he is brave enough to show the reality, but I find lots of "adultry" in all his movies! :sigh2:

PARAMASHIVAN
25th July 2011, 03:32 PM
Right from the list for Rajini, few examples - 16 vayathinile / apoorva rAgangaL / moonRu mudichchu.

Anyways, there are a handful of KH movies without SPB. Look at the following (out of total 83 that thiraippAdal has) :


App anna ,

What I meant was Kamal's 80's movies :)

app_engine
25th July 2011, 08:55 PM
"'neengAtha eNNam onRu nenjOdu uNdu'" - indha pAttula yaru App?

And I vaguely remember KBR-Radhika cavorting freely indoor in some song - jumping around sofa etc. What song is that?

Plum,
Here's the youtube of neengAtha eNNam onRu :-)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxU6zAKCkOM

app_engine
25th July 2011, 09:17 PM
Another 1978 biggie for the MV-KH combo has already got discussed in this thread when we listed BR numbers - 'indha minminikkukkaNNil oru minnal vandhadhu' of sigappu rOjAkkAl...

This youtube link could have appeared elsewhere as well :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yoo_WkRIgYU

PARAMASHIVAN
25th July 2011, 09:20 PM
Another 1978 biggie for the MV-KH combo has already got discussed in this thread when we listed BR numbers - 'indha minminikkukkaNNil oru minnal vandhadhu' of sigappu rOjAkkAl...

This youtube link could have appeared elsewhere as well :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yoo_WkRIgYU

Super song, very energetic too, some what similar to "Germaniyin sernthen malare" :)

vithagan
25th July 2011, 10:27 PM
Not sure this song has been discussed already.. I used to like this song.. listening right now after a long time..

Vel Muruganukku - Puyal paadum Paadal :musicsmile:

app_engine
25th July 2011, 10:47 PM
Ofcourse, the biggest KH-MV hit during the 70's was kalyANa rAman.

'AhA vandhuruchchu' (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR1456'&lang=en) where MV did some voice-change to suit the 'kEnaiyan version' was a patti-thotti hit.

IOKS played a major role in bringing its pathos version 'kAdhal deepam onRu nenjilE ERRi vaiththEn' (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR1457'&lang=en) into focus and it enjoyed considerable popularity as well.

app_engine
25th July 2011, 10:48 PM
kAdhal vandhuruchchu youtube...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoVx8T8au0k

V_S
25th July 2011, 11:53 PM
Another of my very favorite film. More than the hits, the melody in these songs are truly unbelievable. As the song progresses the melody content increases.

eNNangaL mayanga mayanga mayanga
inbangaL vaLara vaLara vaLara
kaathal vanthathamma jOdi nee chinna raaNi

MV sir :notworthy:

app_engine
27th July 2011, 04:14 PM
The next song that MV did for KH movie was 'engengum kaNdEnammA' (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR3762'&lang=en) of ullAsappaRavaikaL. It was not for Kamal but for comedians, singing with SPB. It's still not resolved as to who sang for VAM and who for SuruLi. (IMO, SPB sings in Suruli tone and MV doesn't do too much of mimicry here, however groucho said that SPB originally sang for thEngAi who got replaced by VAM and so his voice must be for VAM).

So, this is still open for discussion (IMO, the 'ramba pappa pappA' of 2nd interlude by the joLLu pArty is by MV) :-)

app_engine
27th July 2011, 04:22 PM
Full movie youtube here, is the song in the movie?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfRylbrlyj4

PARAMASHIVAN
27th July 2011, 05:13 PM
hmm Ullasaparavigal, I was watching it again yesterday, that song by Jency (தெய்வீக ராகம் ) is haunting me like anything! Superb song. Some of IR's songs are "Depressingly Haunting" ! (தெய்வீக ராகம், என் வானிலே , இரு பறவைகள் மலை முழுவதும் )

IR sir :notworthy:

app_engine
27th July 2011, 07:39 PM
I was watching it again yesterday

ok, you're up to date.

Now please tell us, as a big time SPBF, whom does he sing for?

VAM or SuruLi?

PARAMASHIVAN
27th July 2011, 08:37 PM
ok, you're up to date.

Now please tell us, as a big time SPBF, whom does he sing for?

VAM or SuruLi?

Padam paathu mudiyala :oops: I am watching it today, so will post it tomorrow :)

app_engine
28th July 2011, 02:11 AM
The next biggie movie for MV with KH was kadal meenkaL where he gave voice for the younger Kamal in that controversial 'madhini madhini' (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR1397'&lang=en) song. When censor objected, they changed it to 'mayile mayile' :lol: MV's voice suited Kamal to a T. Song easily brings coastal side to one's mind though not as sharply as 'thAlAttudhE vAnam'.

MV also had a song for Suman, 'enRenRum AnandhamE' (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR1393'&lang=en), the guitar / synth / violin delight and is among the poll songs on top of this thread.

I was pretty upset those days that it wasn't given to SPB but don't have such complaints anymore (after seeing tons of great compositions wasted on much lower grade singers...MV wasn't that sophi but did a very credible job).

app_engine
28th July 2011, 02:13 AM
BTW, only 7 votes :-(

Does it mean there're only 7 regd. hubbers visiting this thread?

MV-kku konjam mariyAdhai kodungappA!

app_engine
28th July 2011, 10:47 AM
mayilE mayilE youtube link :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiAUy8mQT10&feature=fvsr

enRenRum AnandhamE youtube :
(possibly the first TF for Ambi chEchi, with kAsimEdu Adhi :wink:)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWAZRKgvAP0&feature=fvwrel

PARAMASHIVAN
28th July 2011, 03:04 PM
ok, you're up to date.

Now please tell us, as a big time SPBF, whom does he sing for?

VAM or SuruLi?

APP anna

I can confirm, it was SPB for VAM and MV for surili

app_engine
28th July 2011, 06:13 PM
ok, good, so Param confirms groucho to be correct :-)

(me :oops:)

Nerd
28th July 2011, 06:27 PM
BTW, only 7 votes :-(

Does it mean there're only 7 regd. hubbers visiting this thread?

MV-kku konjam mariyAdhai kodungappA!
Voted for soft/smooth. Allithantha boomi is supposed to be a jolly song on the surface. Keero takes his wife/son on a tour and shows the places he grew up. But the keero is a dying asthma patient. The subtle melancholy in that jolly good song was beautifully captured by IR and MV has done 110% justice. The song gives you an eerie/uneasy feeling while listening to it. But you can't stop listening to it.

app_engine
28th July 2011, 10:50 PM
MV didn't feature in the initial-days-KH-movies where MSV composed. (Possibly MV was busy singing for IR / Shankar Ganesh). It was more of SPB show (e.g. ninaiththAlE inikkum which was a total SPB show. Even the Rajinikanth song -sambO siva sambO - was sung by MSV himself and not MV).

It doesn't mean MSV neglected MV - he gave him a number of songs when composing for Rajini - suppaNNa sonnAraNNA of thee, for e.g. (quoting 'AduvOmE paLLuppAduvOmE' of "subbaNNA").

So, MV-KH-MSV combo, from early days, is quite rare.

Back to MV-KH combo, the next one was in ellAm inba mayam, again music by IR (Panju Arunachalam / GN Rangarajan)...it had two songs.

One is the comical kuppamification of a carnatic song mAman voodu machchu voodu parusam pOttadhu kuchchu voodu (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR0713'&lang=en) and the other is another comical number AsaikkiLiyE burlA burlA (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR0712'&lang=en)

Both songs enjoyed some radio / teakkadai / bus / loudspeaker time...

What does burlA mean?

app_engine
29th July 2011, 10:26 PM
Around this time period came 'sankarlAl' - a movie Kamal supposedly completed directing some portions after its director T N Balu died. The only movie with the title card for MD showing Ilayaraja - Gangai Amaran (each did part of the movie).

MV had two songs in it. Gangai Amaran MD-ed kasthoori mAn onRu (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR3227'&lang=en) with Janaki & another solo thEdinEn (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR3229'&lang=en) that sounds more like a GA composition as well. (I'm sure IR got credited for the SPB/SJ number 'iLangiLiyE' and GA for 'kasthoori mAn' but not sure about others).

kasthoori mAn was a radio / bus hit (as was iLangiLiyE)...

tvsankar
30th July 2011, 12:07 AM
thanks app. orchestration style.. poya poya ulagam perusu nee oru.. nyabagapaduthum...

app_engine
1st August 2011, 07:35 PM
Though MV was featured in Balu Mahendra's 'moodupani' (paruva kAlangaLin kanavu with SJ for IR's 100th movie), he was left out in the BM-KH movie 'moonRam piRai'.

However, the next two numbers that MV did for Kamal were among the biggest-ever hits for MV (though not the best).

They were in SKV, a big commercial success for KH. Those songs were patti-thotti hits despite the strong 'maRRa' content in both of them. Very explicit in one, embedded as double meanings in the other :-(

Anyways, these are the songs :

'katta vaNdi katta vaNdi kAppAththa vandhavandi' (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR3178'&lang=en)(the guitar special)
&
'nilA kAyuthu nEram nalla nEram' (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR3180'&lang=en) (ties for the all-time-top-spot with 'ponmEni urukuthE' for such munakal songs in TFM, awesome orchestration BTW)

groucho070
2nd August 2011, 07:23 AM
ok, good, so Param confirms groucho to be correct :-)
App, :smile: puriyuthu.

By the way, voting dippiculty. Too many options.

app_engine
2nd August 2011, 08:17 PM
groucho,

EthAchchum pAththuppOttukkodunga sAr :-)

BTW, continuing on with the KH-MV combos, does anyone remember the MV / Manorama song 'kuththuRa kuththula' from Simla Special? (MSV music and I don't remember hearing it ever but it has been listed in some websites...I cannot hear now from such websites)...

PARAMASHIVAN
2nd August 2011, 08:26 PM
does anyone remember the MV / Manorama song 'kuththuRa kuththula' from Simla Special?

Yes, I do. It is an average song for MSV standards, it goes like this 'kuththuRa kuththula ..... bade kiladi ' or some thing along these lines .

PARAMASHIVAN
2nd August 2011, 09:38 PM
Excellent (poll) options.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFvaR206F9Y

A change from the regular Rajni numbers.

MV for Karthik :shock: Must be one of the "Rare" Combo! , BTW which film is this from ? I cant listen to the Audio !

app_engine
3rd August 2011, 08:09 PM
Kamal had some biggies in 1983 but there was just one MV song, that too not for Kamal...

thoongAthE TT - no MV
salangai oli - no MV
sattam - naNbanE enadhu uyir naNbanE (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGGMN0016'&lang=en) had MV, for Sarathbabu under Gangai Amaran's music.

By this time, I think, KH preferred to have SPB mostly...there was a YGM movie 'uruvangaL mARalAm' that had abaswaram Ramji music and Kamal had a song 'kAmanukkukkAman', again by SPB...

PARAMASHIVAN
3rd August 2011, 08:12 PM
App anna

What about MV + VK and MV + Karthik combo ?

app_engine
3rd August 2011, 08:37 PM
App anna

What about MV + VK and MV + Karthik combo ?

After MV-KH, it will be MV-RK.

Some of the others should get covered in the "director" route and rest can be addressed as singles...

PARAMASHIVAN
3rd August 2011, 08:46 PM
After MV-KH, it will be MV-RK.

Some of the others should get covered in the "director" route and rest can be addressed as singles...

I thought we discussed about MV + RK already :confused2: , any way :)

PARAMASHIVAN
4th August 2011, 03:46 PM
I was watching a song by MV in some Revathy Film (புதுமை பெண்)??. It was some kind of background song. can some one pls clarify ? thanks

Plum
4th August 2011, 03:50 PM
Oh Oru Thendral Puyalaagi varudhe..

PARAMASHIVAN
4th August 2011, 04:08 PM
Oh Oru Thendral Puyalaagi varudhe..

Thanks, This song has similarities with "singam ondru purapaduthE" of Arunatchalam, both songs were by MV. I think given Deva's habbit, this could have been an inspirational song for singamondru purapaduthe :lol2:

app_engine
4th August 2011, 10:22 PM
I think given Deva's habbit, this could have been an inspirational

:shhh:
அப்படியெல்லாம் சொல்லப்டாது...அவர் இப்போ தமிழ்நாட்டு இயல் இசை நாடக மன்றத்தலைவர். இனிமேல் கலைமாமணி விருதெல்லாம் அவர் தான் தீர்மானிக்கப்போறார்!

PARAMASHIVAN
4th August 2011, 10:25 PM
:shhh:
அப்படியெல்லாம் சொல்லப்டாது...அவர் இப்போ தமிழ்நாட்டு இயல் இசை நாடக மன்றத்தலைவர். இனிமேல் கலைமாமணி விருதெல்லாம் அவர் தான் தீர்மானிக்கப்போறார்!

ஒ இதுவேறைய சுத்தம் :yessir:

app_engine
4th August 2011, 10:46 PM
Kamal did more indhi movies than Thamizh in 1984 it seems...two in Thamizh - enakkuL oruvan (muththam pOthAdho movie) and oru kaidhiyin diary.

enakkuL oruvan had enakkuL oruvan yAr yAr yAr (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR0804'&lang=en) song by MV, almost sounding like Kamal.

OKD, ofcourse had MV as villain - so he didn't sing any song for the hero :wink:

PARAMASHIVAN
5th August 2011, 03:18 PM
Kamal did more indhi movies than Thamizh in 1984 it seems.

AFAIK, it was Saagar and Ek Nayi Paheli (apoorva sagotharargal), and it Tamil it was Enakul Oruvan.ellam inba mayam, ezhavathu naal :roll: so he done three tamil movies in that year and Hindi movies (not sure about telugu , Malayalam)

app_engine
5th August 2011, 08:08 PM
As per wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamal_Haasan_filmography) following were the Kamal films in 1984 :

oru kaidhiyin diary (Thamizh)
karishma (Hindi, regular)
enakkuL oruvan (Thamizh)
rAj thilak (Hindi, regular)
yAdgAr (Hindi, regular)
Ek nai paheli (Hindi, regular)
yEh dEsh (Hindi, guesttu)

ippO sollunga...BTW, apoorva sahOdhararkaL of Thamizh was made into Hindi as appu rAjA, IIRC and it should have been in 1989 / 1990 or so and definitely not this Ek nai paheli thingy.

PARAMASHIVAN
5th August 2011, 08:15 PM
As per wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamal_Haasan_filmography) following were the Kamal films in 1984 :

oru kaidhiyin diary (Thamizh)
karishma (Hindi, regular)
enakkuL oruvan (Thamizh)
rAj thilak (Hindi, regular)
yAdgAr (Hindi, regular)
Ek nai paheli (Hindi, regular)
yEh dEsh (Hindi, guesttu)

ippO sollunga...BTW, apoorva sahOdhararkaL of Thamizh was made into Hindi as appu rAjA, IIRC and it should have been in 1989 / 1990 or so and definitely not this Ek nai paheli thingy.

sorry app anna, ennaku sariya theriyatha, during that time, I was a Toddler :)

Here is where I got the info from http://members.tripod.com/s_jagadish/kamal/kamal-all.html

Plum
6th August 2011, 05:29 PM
Ek nai paheli = Apoorva RaagangaL. Farams got it half-right, as he often does.
(Nai!=dog)

app_engine
8th August 2011, 09:17 PM
After MV started his acting career, there had been further decline in the # of songs he sang for Kamal it appears :-(

After the dismal 1984, look at 1985 :

--kAthiruppadhu pAthiruppathu (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR0279'&lang=en)- practically unknown number, with SPB, from andha oru nimidam - that had every other song by SPB including the great 'siRiya paRavai siRakai virikkaththudikkiRadhE'

--NONE in Jappanil Kalyanaraman - original Kalyanaraman was 100% MV and now all SPB

--NONE in kAkkichchattai - 100% SPB

--NONE in uyarndha uLLam, like TTT of AVM...movies that followed SKV of AVM where the MV numbers reverberated everywhere in TN

There seems to be a Kamal movie called 'mangammA sabatham' as per wikipedia, don't know what songs were there, who the MD was and whether there was MV in it. (This movie title seems to be another case of reuse of an old title for a Kamal movie)

app_engine
8th August 2011, 09:23 PM
SPB continued to dominate in KH movies in 1986 as well - Vikram, sippikkuL muthu, punnagai mannan...

AhA, the KB movie finally brought back MV for a Kamal film, 'mAmAvukku kudummA kudummA ada onnE onnu' (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR2898'&lang=en) what a lovely thuLLal number :-)

This year saw the release of Sridhar's 'meeNdum sooryOdhayam' (nAnum oru thozhilALi), a Kamal movie in the making for many years. Even that didn't have MV :-(

PARAMASHIVAN
8th August 2011, 09:33 PM
Ek nai paheli = Apoorva RaagangaL. Farams got it half-right, as he often does.
(Nai!=dog)

yOv umaku spelling mistake ah kandupidikirathu thaan velaya poichu :x

app_engine
9th August 2011, 11:12 PM
1987 was a phenomenal year for Kamal - the year of nAyakan - but hopeless one for the MV-Kamal combo :-(

SPB continued to dominate Kamal songs with Mano as a new addition. One has to search hard to find MV numbers.

There is one 'jAthi illai' (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR1347'&lang=en)dappAnguththu in kAdhal parisu.

And another hindi-song-like-number veLakkEththu veLakkEththu veLLikkizhamai (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR2688'&lang=en) from pEr sollum piLLai.

He sings well such songs but why only such numbers? Why not other kinds, like duets? irritating...

groucho070
10th August 2011, 07:24 AM
Ek nai paheli = Apoorva RaagangaL. Farams got it half-right, as he often does.:lol: What a logic! Anyway, I must have been the very few who saw this one.

Plum
10th August 2011, 01:13 PM
Thanks, This song has similarities with "singam ondru purapaduthE" of Arunatchalam, both songs were by MV. I think given Deva's habbit, this could have been an inspirational song for singamondru purapaduthe :lol2:

singam ondru purappatathe = Traditional Villupaattu opener -
thandhanathom endru solliyE, villinil pada - AmAm - villinil pAda, vandharuLvAi kalai magaLE...
Straight lift - I dont think Deva booked a room to think and convert "oh oru thendral" into Singam ondru purappatadhE. nOgAma nombu kumbidaNum - avaru characteriayyE purinjikka mAtRInga"?

PARAMASHIVAN
10th August 2011, 03:22 PM
singam ondru purappatathe = Traditional Villupaattu opener -
thandhanathom endru solliyE, villinil pada - AmAm - villinil pAda, vandharuLvAi kalai magaLE...
Straight lift - I dont think Deva booked a room to think and convert "oh oru thendral" into Singam ondru purappatadhE. nOgAma nombu kumbidaNum - avaru characteriayyE purinjikka mAtRInga"?

shhhh, adakki vaasiyunga, avaru ippO "Commisioner of Tamizh iyal isai nadagam" :lol2:

app_engine
10th August 2011, 11:48 PM
1988 - 3 movies by Kamal (sathya, soorasamhAram, unnAl mudiyum thambi) - zero songs for MV in these.
1989:
apoorva sahOdharakaL - NONE for MV
veRRi vizhA - Finally, MV is back for a couple of songs in a Kamal movie - but both songs are for Prabhu and not Kamal...

seevi sinukkeduththu (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR4046'&lang=en) (simply superb song, with all kinds of wind instruments, including the sweet shenoy)
vAnam enna keezhirukku (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR4048'&lang=en) (quite interesting, stylish number)

1990 - MMKR

MV did one of my most fav songs on screen :-)

'pEru vachchAlum vaikkAmappOnAlum malli vAsam' (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR2052'&lang=en) , with Kamal on screen for a MV song after a long time!

app_engine
11th August 2011, 11:28 PM
90's saw further dwindling of Kamal-MV combo...

1991 - gunA - None
1992 - dEvar magan - puthiyathu piRandhadhu (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR0599'&lang=en)a run-of-the-mill kind of number, IMO...the specials went to others...
singAravElan - None
1993 - kalaignan - None
mahAnadhi - None
maharAsan - didn't even know this was a GNR movie from 80's...must be rAsA...can't remember any song...but thiraippadal has a few listed, with MV:
'avanA-ivanA-theriyAthu' (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR1864'&lang=en)(kEttadhe illai)
'rAsA maharAsA enga maharAsA' (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR1867'&lang=en) (ditto, kEttadhE illai)

1994 - mahalir mattum - None
nammavar - don't know, sottu neelam Mahesh music, is there any MV number?

app_engine
11th August 2011, 11:35 PM
1995 - sathi leelAvathi / kurudhippunal - None
1996 - Indian / avvai shaNmuki - None

I think there was hardly any in the late 90's or during 2000's...if there's any number, please post here. If not, we'll move on to Rajinikanth numbers, as chronologically as possible, sung by MV.

Rajini - MV too had been a terrific combo as their voices matched pretty good like Kamal - MV.

app_engine
11th August 2011, 11:51 PM
It's sad to see MV ending his innings scoring a duck with Kamal in maharAsan :-(

They both had such superb songs together in the "growing-up" phase of their careers...

In a way, it also reminds the important role rAsA played in MV's career. The "for-all-practical-purposes-exit" of MV happened when IR got removed from the commercial top spot...

Plum
12th August 2011, 07:07 AM
Avana Ivana is for Gounder

baroque
12th August 2011, 10:07 AM
நீ போகும் பாதையில் மனசு போகுதே மானே........வாசு & சித்ரா டூயட்
sweet composition , புல்லாங்குழல், வயோலின் bgm

wonderful male vocal humming , ஜலதரங்கம் fill -in , vocal - violin பாட்டுக்கு பாட்டு prelude சோலை இளங்குயிலே அழகா.......அண்ணனுக்கு ஜே!
another sweet composition by வாசு & சித்ரா
Male Chorus humming goes on at the back while singer sing....gem of a composition
http://www.raaga.com/player4/?id=264538&mode=100&rand=0.028111025842244564
ஜாலியா ரசிச்சுண்டு வந்தேன் சாயங்காலம் டிரைவ் பண்ணும் போது...:musicsmile:
ராஜா பாட்டு :swinghead:
vinatha

app_engine
12th August 2011, 10:17 PM
Jumping into the Rajini-MV alliance...

The early movies of Rajini calls for too much of research as to whether he had even songs / if so who gave pinnaNi etc. That is in the 75/76/77 years where Rajini did all kinds of roles, often with negative shades which were not granted songs on screen. Moreover, MV himself shot into prominence only after 16V of 77.

So, I'm not going to look at movies of 77 or prior. If any HCRKF has info on RK-MV songs during that period, please post in this thread.

varalARu romba mukkiyam.

app_engine
12th August 2011, 10:27 PM
From Rajini flimography in wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajinikanth_filmography), it looks like RK did 20 movies in 1978 in all lang, including guest appearances :shock:

We've already covered 16V, IO in this thread - when discussing BR & KH.

RK heroed movies, like, Bhairavi / muLLum malarum / Priya / chathurangam / thappuththALangaL / thAi meethu saththiyam / vaNakkaththukkuriya kAthaliyE....mhoom...no MV in any of these.

There seems to be a ton of multi hero movies - mAngudi minor / Ayiram jenmangaL kinds and there's no smell of MV in such movies either.

Looks like, go to 1979...

app_engine
12th August 2011, 10:39 PM
annai oru Alayam - SPB / TMS - no MV there
6 to 70 - no MV

wow, dharma yudhdham!

Possibly the first couple of songs that MV sung for Rajinikanth!

I was thinking all along that MV was the sole male voice in this movie, with those evergreen oru thanga rathaththil (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR0655'&lang=en)& AgAya gangai (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR0653'&lang=en), both songs found their mention in our polls. 'ada pOyyA pOyyA' (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR0652'&lang=en)was a SPS solo.

thiraippAdal tells me that there was another duet - called "disco song" (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR0654'&lang=en)- which is dangerous to play in the workplace because of mukkal-munakals :shock:

Not MV, must be one of those one-off singers who were called upon for englees songs those days!

thanga ratham & AgAya gangai were possibly among the most-times-played-songs in the IOKS!

baroque
14th August 2011, 12:09 AM
STEREO EAR PLUGS, App_eng FOR YOUR MUSIC LISTENING PRIVATELY ANYWHERE & ANYTIME!

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

ஸ்ரீ.இளையராஜா ' s ஒரு தங்க ரதத்தில் பொன் மஞ்சள் நிலவு......

கண்ணதாசன் வரிகள்.

late .மலேசியா வாசுதேவன்.

What a loving atmosphere ஸ்ரீ.இளையராஜா conjures with flute , violin and bass guitar !

Effusive loving brother ரஜினிகாந்த் in தர்ம யுத்தம்.

year 1979 .

Even after 3 decades + , Early Ilayaraja 's composition is forever fresh and entice us !

That 's Eternal music for all of you, நல்ல இசையை ரசிக்கும் பசங்கள்....

HAPPY RAKHI!

AVANI AVITTAM WISHES!

Wishes,
Vinatha.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abwUMax8r6w&feature=related

PARAMASHIVAN
15th August 2011, 03:35 PM
thiraippAdal tells me that there was another duet - called "disco song" (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR0654'&lang=en)- which is dangerous to play in the workplace because of mukkal-munakals :shock:



Yah I remember this song, it picturised in some sort of Night club

app_engine
18th August 2011, 12:12 AM
There was this MSV music Rajini movie 'kuppaththu rAjA' in 1979 - no MV there.

No MV in nAn vAzha vaippEn (AgAyam mElE by KJY, ennOdu pAdungaL by SPB, endhan pon vaNNamE by TMS)

Looks like, all the MV-Rajini combo of 1979 got listed already and nothing more...

PARAMASHIVAN
19th August 2011, 03:43 PM
aapakadai annakili by MV + IR in Paayum puli is fantastic song, those beats and MV's singing, but PS madam :oops:

app_engine
19th August 2011, 10:03 PM
A rare number, 'mAlai veyyil pAdum sindhu sindhu' from the film 'panchami' (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR2654'&lang=en)

Either the recording is poor / slow LP record player or MV had some voice issue...

Plum
19th August 2011, 11:09 PM
Must be some upload issue - rather record issue. Thiraipaadal has quite a few like this esp. 70s IR songs

NOV
20th August 2011, 05:18 PM
Some Interesting Facts on MALAYSIA VASUDEVAN

Born in 1944 at end of 2nd world war in the coastal town of Port Dickson in Malaysia to rubber-tapper parents

Youngest after MS Gopalan (renown singer in Malaysia). Whole family is musically-inclined

At five year olds, he was imitating voices of P Susheela and Jikki

Later the whole family joined a drama troupe in Taiping, Perak and started singing and acting

Early 60s there was an advertisement asking for talents for a Malaysian production Raththa Pei to be produced in India. MV applied and was selected

22 year old MV acted as 50 year old dad

MD was GK Venketesh

Since MV was more interested in singing, a voice test was done by GKV witnessed by SJanaki and PBS

- more later

(source: Thirumbi Paarkkiren)

SMI
20th August 2011, 10:50 PM
thanga ratham & AgAya gangai were possibly among the most-times-played-songs in the IOKS!

உங்களுக்கு உண்டான கெட்ட பழக்கம் இது தான் App. While quoting songs like this you should at least add an exclamation mark - wow whaatta song! You did this on the KJY thread for "இந்த பச்சைக் கிளிக்கொரு" which I consider one of the greatest melodies ever made :)

app_engine
21st August 2011, 02:34 AM
SMI :-)

'ஆகாய கங்கை ' எல்லாம் மேலே தேர்தல்-லையே போட்டிருக்கோம் சார் ...அது சரி ஓட்டு போட்டீங்களா இல்லையா? :wink:

app_engine
23rd August 2011, 08:55 PM
Back to Rajini-MV combo listinggu...

1980 should have been a muththirai year for this combo. 'pothuvAga emmanasu thangam' (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR2114'&lang=en)from the AVM film murattukkALai where 'thennakaththu james bondu' became a villain, was possibly the first Rajinikanth song in MGR-ish style. No question about the song becoming a patti-thotti hit in TN, it reverberated in every nook and corner through every possible medium.

I love the urumi, chorus, percussion arrangements, powerful overall orchestration & MV's enthu!

Quite a motivational number, if one cares to look at the lyrics!

app_engine
24th August 2011, 11:05 PM
1980 also witnessed MV teaming up with MSV in a big way for the veththalayappOttEndi saththi konjam ERudhadi (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGOLD1671'&lang=en), huge hit song in the billA movie. (So much popular that Yuvan had to make a remix of this song for the remake of the movie with Ajith recently).

There is another song from this movie, iravum pagalum (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGOLD1667'&lang=en), a MV-VJ duet, that was not all that popular...to me it sounds like I've hardly heard it those days. Obviously, the SPB number was a lot more popular from this movie.

Then there was this 'kALi', I V Sasi movie from the same year that had the sweet adi Adu poonguyilE (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR1301'&lang=en) by MV, that further established him as one of the regular singers for Rajini :-)