HUB ODI Team - Post 90's - Pacer #1 - *Poll Started*

[Plum]

Wasim Akram?
Glenn Mcgrath?
Shaun Pollock?
Allan Donald?
Javagal Srinath (he he) ?
Brett Lee?
Shoaib Akthar?
Curtly Ambrose?
And the man with a name longer than his run-up - Warnakulasooriya Patebendige Ushantha Joseph Chaminda Vaas?

[Dinesh84]

Chaminda Vaas :roll:
Wasim Akram :D

[ajithfederer]

Pacer #1: Wasim,

Spinner poll eppo vaipinga?>

8th guy normally be a spinner right?. My only choice is Warnie.

[Plum]

We'll do the spinner poll after the wicketkeeper poll.

[P_R]

Justice Qayyum'ai vaai piLakka vaitha Wasim Akram dhaan nember one

Foul mouthed pigeon nember two

Chaminda next - when he lost pace and became more dependent on his swing - he was still troubling the best batsment. I sometimes wish he had not taken his record hauls against Zim, Ban. They portray him as a minnow bully when he is much more than that.

Donaalduck, Swipe, FredLi pOnRa peer pacemen enakku sumArA dhaan pudikkin. So someone else nominate

[Plum]

indha vAippai payan paduththi, thangaL thangaL vETpALargaLaik paRRi oru Aivurai ezhudhalAmE nIngaL ellAm?

[steveaustin]

Why no other two big 'W's and Shane Bond???

Walsh and Waqar. Waqar may be expensive but no one here matches his ability to run though the opposition almost even in an ODI. Walsh's economy is better than many of the players mentioned above. He is better than most of the above listed players. Shane Bond is most probably the best attacking as well as economical bowler.

Surprised to see Brett Lee and Srinath in this list. :wink:

[ajithfederer]

Srinath - An anomaly in the list. Plum Lollukku alave illa.

Walsh, Waqar and yes Shane Bond deserves a mention in the list.

[raajarasigan]

don't know how to nominate for 3 pacers... but would be happy to see

Wasim Akram
Curtly Ambrose
Glenn McGrath

in the ODI XI

[Movie Cop]

Wasim Akram?
Glenn Mcgrath?
Shaun Pollock?
Allan Donald?
Javagal Srinath (he he) ?
Brett Lee?
Shoaib Akthar?
Curtly Ambrose?
And the man with a name longer than his run-up - Warnakulasooriya Patebendige Ushantha Joseph Chaminda Vaas?

Couple suggestions.

A. rekOst Follock be replaced with Nzl's Sames Bond in your list.
B. Add Waqar Younis as option 10 (stritly for filling the #10 slot for folling purposes only).

Pacer # 1 votes ellam eppadiyin andhe oru "You Know Who"-kku thein vizhugappOdhudhu... But folling nominEsans-le thaane fun ehh. :)

[Ramakrishna]

Panagal Srinath

[Movie Cop]

Panagal Srinath
That's a typo. It's Panagal Freenath. :)

Sometimes unarchi vasapattu, thambi neraiya freebies (no balls, wides ellam poduvaarpla...)

[Ramakrishna]

Panagal Srinath
That's a typo. It's Panagal Freenath. :)

Sometimes unarchi vasapattu, thambi neraiya freebies (no balls, wides ellam poduvaarpla...)

He is similar to Kumble in konjifying the fielders

[Movie Cop]

Panagal Srinath
That's a typo. It's Panagal Freenath. :)

Sometimes unarchi vasapattu, thambi neraiya freebies (no balls, wides ellam poduvaarpla...)

He is similar to Kumble in konjifying the fielders
:lol:

[ajithfederer]

:lol:

[Plum]

The names in the first post are just indicative. As usual, eahc of yu nominate 3 names each. No restrictions - Abey Kuruvilla select paNnanumna kUda paNNikunga

[Dinesh84]

Added


Chaminda Vaas :roll:
Wasim Akram :D
S Pollock

[Plum]

Wasim Akram - RR, dinesh
Curtly Ambrose - RR
Glenn McGrath - RR
C Walsh - steve, AF
C Ambrose - steve, AF
S Bond - Steve, AF
J Srinath - RK
C Vaas - Dinesh
S Pollock - Dinesh

moviecop, feeyar and others - pls to nominate 3 of your preferences.

[P_R]

Wasim, Mc Grath and Vaas - they kinda choose themselves

Vaas v Pollock - hmmm I have seen much more of Vaas so I stick with him.

[Movie Cop]

"First saaice" fast bowlers oda naaminEsans your haanEr.

1. Akram - nee ball, old ball, seaming wicket, bouncy wicket, flat wicket, low turning wicket, "brought in back" fresh for a spell, or currently bowling a looong spell - ellaame gets irrelevant when Akram bowls. Because with him the unplayable delivery is always waiting in the corridor. He is any captain's luxury to have in the team (particular in ODI). Opening up his shoulders, his hard hitting with the bat during the death is a bonus/freebie.

2. Ambrose - More of a Test cricket bowler, it's extreeeemely difficult to even rotate a strike for a batsman let alone scoring boundaries against him. Not really a stats person myself, but sometimes stats do help to prove a point, as in his case. With a miserly economy rate of 3.48 - none of his peers who have taken 200+ ODI wickets are anywhere remotely close to that. Aaduravan Sachin-O, Gilly-O, SeyasooriyAr-O, Afridi thambi-O, Ambrose pOdum podhu they have to stritly activate their *defense mode* - illaiyinA stump replacement-kaaga match few nimutes "held up" aagirum! :lol2: Amby exploits his 6' 7'' height advantage (like very few bowlers in the game could do) to extract menacingly steep bounce even on lifeless, slow wickets. With Ambrose having a ball in hand, you always know that a wicket is just around the corner even as the runs are drying up.

3. McGrath - Unlike Akram/Ambrose, there are times where McGrath can be taken apart and cut to a size by some really good batsmen like Sachin, Lara, Aravinda, Seyasooriya etc. However, McGrath forte lies in his typical, "Aussie style" mental strength and "come back" attitude. Sometimes, if he can't do it with the ball, he could still psych the batsman out mentally via sledging like he did to "Little Kalu" when Sri Lanka went Down Under. For the purists, McGrath may not necessarily be the most attractive bowler to watch during his era, compared to the likes of Donald's, Waqar's and Bond's eventhough he an easy, smooth action. But at the same time, unlike those bowlers, McGrath is less injury prone and is a extremely fit athlete. His forte is consistency and maintaining good line and length and he could be effective as a first change bowler too.

[Kalyasi]

Wasim Akram, Curtly Ambrose!!

[Movie Cop]

Wasim Akram, Curtly Ambrose!!
As an avid cricket lover/follower for decades, how mouth watering it is for me to even imagine Ambrose and Akram sharing the new ball for a World XI - be it a Test match or a one-day game. 8-)

These 2 bowlers are the 'finest' among the fast bowlers (post 90's).

[ajithfederer]

Pacer poll options are tricky and so are spinners. We will have the same sample space to choose from( I mean as opposed to batsman who are chosen according to their batting positions. Opener; middle order; wk). We should leave the bowler who chose from the sample space available to 2nd and then leave the 2nd bowler for the 3rd spot.

Eg: If you chose Akram leave him outside of 2nd & 3rd and leave Mcgrath out of 3rd poll if he was chosen for 2nd pacer.

[raajarasigan]

Movie Cop,

namma choice adikkadi onna irukku.. :clap: :thumbsup:

[Movie Cop]

Movie Cop,

namma choice adikkadi onna irukku.. :clap: :thumbsup:
Thanks RR! :D

Ambrose, Akram-ukku ellam poll-uhh? nevaaair... :twisted:

[Plum]

Pacer poll options are tricky and so are spinners. We will have the same sample space to choose from( I mean as opposed to batsman who are chosen according to their batting positions. Opener; middle order; wk). We should leave the bowler who chose from the sample space available to 2nd and then leave the 2nd bowler for the 3rd spot.

Eg: If you chose Akram leave him outside of 2nd & 3rd and leave Mcgrath out of 3rd poll if he was chosen for 2nd pacer.

Got it. Basically, varra nominationsai vechu 3 polls one by one nadathalamgarInga. Fine.

[Plum]

Wasim Akram, Curtly Ambrose!!innum oNNu sollunga boss

[Plum]

"First saaice" fast bowlers oda naaminEsans your haanEr.

1. Akram - nee ball, old ball, seaming wicket, bouncy wicket, flat wicket, low turning wicket, "brought in back" fresh for a spell, or currently bowling a looong spell - ellaame gets irrelevant when Akram bowls. Because with him the unplayable delivery is always waiting in the corridor. He is any captain's luxury to have in the team (particular in ODI). Opening up his shoulders, his hard hitting with the bat during the death is a bonus/freebie.

2. Ambrose - More of a Test cricket bowler, it's extreeeemely difficult to even rotate a strike for a batsman let alone scoring boundaries against him. Not really a stats person myself, but sometimes stats do help to prove a point, as in his case. With a miserly economy rate of 3.48 - none of his peers who have taken 200+ ODI wickets are anywhere remotely close to that. Aaduravan Sachin-O, Gilly-O, SeyasooriyAr-O, Afridi thambi-O, Ambrose pOdum podhu they have to stritly activate their *defense mode* - illaiyinA stump replacement-kaaga match few nimutes "held up" aagirum! :lol2: Amby exploits his 6' 7'' height advantage (like very few bowlers in the game could do) to extract menacingly steep bounce even on lifeless, slow wickets. With Ambrose having a ball in hand, you always know that a wicket is just around the corner even as the runs are drying up.

3. McGrath - Unlike Akram/Ambrose, there are times where McGrath can be taken apart and cut to a size by some really good batsmen like Sachin, Lara, Aravinda, Seyasooriya etc. However, McGrath forte lies in his typical, "Aussie style" mental strength and "come back" attitude. Sometimes, if he can't do it with the ball, he could still psych the batsman out mentally via sledging like he did to "Little Kalu" when Sri Lanka went Down Under. For the purists, McGrath may not necessarily be the most attractive bowler to watch during his era, compared to the likes of Donald's, Waqar's and Bond's eventhough he an easy, smooth action. But at the same time, unlike those bowlers, McGrath is less injury prone and is a extremely fit athlete. His forte is consistency and maintaining good line and length and he could be effective as a first change bowler too.

Lovely post MC. idhukkAga dhAn indha threadlAm open paNdradhu.

[P_R]

3. McGrath - Unlike Akram/Ambrose, there are times where McGrath can be taken apart and cut to a size by some really good batsmen

Akramukkum pala thadavai dappA dance aadirukku.
Suddenly he will bowl like he has completely lost his imagination, control. (Qayyum kavanathiRkku :lol2:).

But when he is on top ..asaichukka mudiyAdhu, asaichukka mudiyAdhu

[Plum]

Feeyaar, Akram thadavara pazhaiya matches pArkkum bOdhellAm "enakku appOvE mildA doubttu" dhAn thONudhu.

Especially, 1996 WC Quarters ellAm - remba doubtA irukku. Ajay Jadeja hitting Younus and Akram for 40 runs in 2 overs - :think:

I am fairly convinced that Akram was involved in match fixing

[P_R]

Especially, 1996 WC Quarters ellAm - remba doubtA irukku. Ajay Jadeja hitting Younus and Akram for 40 runs in 2 overs - :think:

1996 WC QF final-la Akram thadavunaarA. Very good.

GM: Bill Kilindan
P1: mm
GM: ivar un kitte kadan vaangunaarA
P1: naan enna poyyaaaa solrEn

[ajithfederer]

Akram velayadave illa plum.

[Plum]

Especially, 1996 WC Quarters ellAm - remba doubtA irukku. Ajay Jadeja hitting Younus and Akram for 40 runs in 2 overs - :think:

1996 WC QF final-la Akram thadavunaarA. Very good.

GM: Bill Kilindan
P1: mm
GM: ivar un kitte kadan vaangunaarA
P1: naan enna poyyaaaa solrEn
:( - avaru sandhegathukkuruiya soozhnilaiyil vayithu valinnu velagittArilla. adhuvE doubtA dhAn irukku...since Jadeja was the one who hit, rombavE doubtA irukku about Younus.
But I have definitely seen some re-runs where Akram seems unusually underperforming for no particular reason

[P_R]

Consistency is the hallmark of mediocrity :mrgreen:

[Movie Cop]

Lovely post MC. idhukkAga dhAn indha threadlAm open paNdradhu.
thak you your haanEr.

PR,
Akram dappa dEnce aadirukku, vaasthavam thein. But with Akram his unplayable missiles are always up his sleeve (sometimes Akram-kke theriyaadhu eppO veliya varumnu) which means the batsmen's head is always on the chopping block - no matter how much he could dominate Akram. That is not quite the case with McGrath or for that matter over most of the bowlers in the world. I tend to think that it's hard for a batsman to say he has won a pyschological battle over Akram.

One eggjAmble - Well settled Lara on cruise control mode - get's a shocker of a delivery - that breaks his toe, literally.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56N_t85kW74

Neriya eggjmables irukku - but ling ille - just when you think that Akram is mauled - all of a sudden you would see a 2 out of 2 or sometimes a hatrick out of nowhere from Akram. Akram is like a Ferrari driven by a driver under the influence of the drugs. Ferrari (i.e. Akram)-kkE theriyadhu nest second freeway-le enna aagum nu... There lies his genius, I say.

[Movie Cop]

In a way, Akram is the "Muralitharan" among fast bowlers. As a spectator, you tend to believe that the guillotine is ready to fall on a batsman's head anytime. Indhe "craft", "craft"-mbAingalE.

[Plum]

neraiya nAL Achu - roundA nALaikku evening poll options PottudarEn. We'll move on to next thread soon.

I am planning the wicketkeeper or spinner thread as the grand finale poll :)

[Plum]

Wasim Akram - RR, dinesh, P_R, moviecop, Plum, kalyasi (6)
Curtly Ambrose - RR, moviecop, kalyasi, steveaustin, ajithfederer, plum (6)
Glenn McGrath - RR, P_R, moviecop(3)
C Walsh - steve, AF (2)
S Bond - Steve, AF (2)
J Srinath - RK (1)
C Vaas - Dinesh, P_R (2)
S Pollock - Dinesh (1)
H Streak - Plum(1) - summA to add another option

[Kalyasi]

Wasim Akram, Curtly Ambrose!!innum oNNu sollunga boss

Innum onnu en manasula nikka maatraanunga evanum... Ok ungalukaaga Allan Donald...

[Kalyasi]

Lovely post MC. idhukkAga dhAn indha threadlAm open paNdradhu.
thak you your haanEr.

PR,
Akram dappa dEnce aadirukku, vaasthavam thein. But with Akram his unplayable missiles are always up his sleeve (sometimes Akram-kke theriyaadhu eppO veliya varumnu) which means the batsmen's head is always on the chopping block - no matter how much he could dominate Akram. That is not quite the case with McGrath or for that matter over most of the bowlers in the world. I tend to think that it's hard for a batsman to say he has won a pyschological battle over Akram.

One eggjAmble - Well settled Lara on cruise control mode - get's a shocker of a delivery - that breaks his toe, literally.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56N_t85kW74

Neriya eggjmables irukku - but ling ille - just when you think that Akram is mauled - all of a sudden you would see a 2 out of 2 or sometimes a hatrick out of nowhere from Akram. Akram is like a Ferrari driven by a driver under the influence of the drugs. Ferrari (i.e. Akram)-kkE theriyadhu nest second freeway-le enna aagum nu... There lies his genius, I say.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFOjvZaXeQ8

athuvum namma sennai wicket ithellam saanse illa...

[Plum]

Wasim Akram, Curtly Ambrose!!innum oNNu sollunga boss

Innum onnu en manasula nikka maatraanunga evanum... Ok ungalukaaga Allan Donald...

Ogay thanku. Updated below

[Plum]

Wasim Akram - RR, dinesh, P_R, moviecop, Plum, kalyasi (6)
Curtly Ambrose - RR, moviecop, kalyasi, steveaustin, ajithfederer, plum (6)
Glenn McGrath - RR, P_R, moviecop(3)
C Walsh - steve, AF (2)
S Bond - Steve, AF (2)
J Srinath - RK (1)
C Vaas - Dinesh, P_R (2)
S Pollock - Dinesh (1)
H Streak - Plum(1) - summA to add another option
A Donald - Kalyasi(1)

[Plum]

Poll created

[Dinesh84]

Voted for Wasim Bhai!..

[Movie Cop]

Voted for Wasim Bhai!..
+1
Akram ellam default selection! 8-)

[Puliyan_Biryani]

Voted for Wasim Bhai!..
+1
+2 :D.

[Plum]

puLI, 2 vote pOttIngaLA? :roll:

[Puliyan_Biryani]

ullooru selavaani (1 vote) __ veliyooru selavaani (2 vote) __. meedhi ungalukke theriyume.

[Movie Cop]

Hub Ambrose Annan Rasiga(p) perumakkale,
Don't think that our Annan is suppressed, oppressed and depressed in this foll. Mudhalle Akram-uhh seyikke vechu - nest fast bowler foll-le, Ambrose Annan-uh seyyika vekOnOm. IllayinA, vote-u thevai illame firiyin. :)

[Plum]

Akram has a huge majority and is a shoo-in. Closing it now. Second pacerku pOgalAm

#8 - Wasim Akram

[Riyazz]

Wasim :2thumbsup: