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[Nerd]

I saw maalai malar on iPhone OS too. But both MM and vikatan require 4.2 update, I currently have 4.0. Andha updatekku USB cable-a eduthu computer-la sorugi :sigh2: naan pala varusmaa paattE maaththalai :oops:

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Any one interested in buying phones which actually confirm with radiation safety standards? For kids, pregnant women etc, Alcatel would be good choice.

http://www.alcatel-mobilephones.com/in/India/products

There is EC Declaration forms available to download, for all models. Price is also competitive. There are few android phones too.

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/3065/alcatelmobile.png

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

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[vithagan]

Nerd,
I have HTC Inspire, no complaints so far except for the Battery life.

If you want to stick with AT&T, you can consider Samsung Infuse (http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-infuse-4g-at/4505-6452_7-34468418.html), other than that I don't think you have any option with AT&T currently.

One tip on AT&T upgrade, heard from my colleague
While doing the upgrade ask them to add the 'Free Mobile calling" feature to your account. Minutes will not be counted if you call any mobile in US(Including verizon, T-mobile, sprint etc) and there is no monthly charge for this feature.

[vithagan]

Andha updatekku USB cable-a eduthu computer-la sorugi :sigh2: naan pala varusmaa paattE maaththalai :oops:

Neenga innum cloud playerkku maaralaya?? ;)

Amazon mp3, Google music etc.. wire free upload/download. Ippa ellam laptop usb cable pakkathula irundhaalum use panradhilla.. from system to cloud player and then to mobile through wi-fi..:smokesmirk:

[Nerd]

Thanks Vithagan :-)


One tip on AT&T upgrade, heard from my colleague
While doing the upgrade ask them to add the 'Free Mobile calling" feature to your account. Minutes will not be counted if you call any mobile in US(Including verizon, T-mobile, sprint etc) and there is no monthly charge for this feature.
Meyyaalumaa?!! Sounds too good to be true. Eventhough I don't need it (have more than 2000 rollover minutes) would be a great addition. Will check out.


Neenga innum cloud playerkku maaralaya?? ;)

Amazon mp3, Google music etc.. wire free upload/download. Ippa ellam laptop usb cable pakkathula irundhaalum use panradhilla.. from system to cloud player and then to mobile through wi-fi..:smokesmirk:

Actually I had uploaded 2-3 songs to Google music. Can I listen it in iPhone? Even if I can I would need a WiFi to listen to it right? I can't download it to my iPhone (or android phone) can I? My question is do I have to download from the cloud on to my mobile device to listen to it or can I just 'stream' it? If its the latter though 3G would suffice, I ought to be connected to WiFi is it not?

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Absolutely have no idea abt cloud meejic, but just googled and got this!
Cloud Music Comparison: What’s the Best Service for Streaming Your Library Everywhere? (http://lifehacker.com/5812138/cloud-music-comparison-whats-the-best-service-for-streaming-your-library-everywhere)

Nerd, as per this, looks like iphone wont support google music. So either change ur cloud service or wait till u get a android phone :wink: :)

[vithagan]

Thanks Vithagan :-)
Meyyaalumaa?!!


Give a try.. saying my friend did that last week ;)




Actually I had uploaded 2-3 songs to Google music. Can I listen it in iPhone?

Unfortunately iPhone doesn't support google music, but there is a way (http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-20061513-285/how-to-use-google-music-with-ios-devices/)!!




Even if I can I would need a WiFi to listen to it right? I can't download it to my iPhone (or android phone) can I? My question is do I have to download from the cloud on to my mobile device to listen to it or can I just 'stream' it? If its the latter though 3G would suffice, I ought to be connected to WiFi is it not?

I'm speaking now for the android device..Not really.. Once you upload the songs to the cloud player, you can listen the songs from any device, notebook or mobile as long as you are connected to internet. For the mobile devices you can make the songs offline, when you are connected to internet(Wifi) songs will be automatically downloaded to your mobile so that you can listen to those songs even if you are not in Wifi.

If you are in Wifi(or in Unlimited data plan) always you can stream no need to download.

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Budget Android Tablets in India - Comparision
http://androidos.in/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/budget-Android-tablets-compared.jpg

[Nerd]

If you are in Wifi(or in Unlimited data plan) always you can stream no need to download.
I currently have $15 a month / 200MB. I downgraded a couple of months back since I was not using data as much as I used to.. Anyway thanks for all the inputs vithagan :-)

[vithagan]

Today HP Tablet sold for $99 for 16 GB ( normally $399), $149 for 32 GB ( normally $499).

Missed it..:sad: HP site says out of stock!!

[vithagan]

I currently have $15 a month / 200MB. I downgraded a couple of months back since I was not using data as much as I used to.. Anyway thanks for all the inputs vithagan :-)

Welcome :)

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Today HP Tablet sold for $99 for 16 GB ( normally $399), $149 for 32 GB ( normally $499).

Missed it..:sad: HP site says out of stock!!

Recently Staples reduced $100 in all tablets. My friend bought Motorola xoom since Asus Transformer was out of stock.

Another offer - Logitech selling its Google TV kit for $99

Anyways, you guys will get fantastic offers during Thangsgiving and this time, Tablets are gonna sell like hotcakes!

Those in US interested in buying gently used Android Devices go here - http://swappa.com/devices/all

This is a trustable site

[vithagan]

Successfully got HP Touchpad 16GB for $100 at Bestbuy.com this morning.

Not sure whether its a Good deal considering the discontinued item.. but for $100 you can't ask for more ;)

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Vithagan,

You will be lucky if Cyanogenmod is ported to HP Touchpad. Guys are already at it! Keep watchin' here - http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/29831-hp-touchpads-now-99-time-for-cm7/

There is also a geeky discussion going on here anout how to install Ubuntu on Touchpad - http://forums.precentral.net/webos-development/289421-ubuntu-touchpad.html

btw, here is an article which discourages Why You Should Avoid the HP TouchPad (Even at $99) (http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/201153/20110820/why-to-avoid-the-hp-touchpad-even-at-99.htm)

[vithagan]

Vithagan,

You will be lucky if Cyanogenmod is ported to HP Touchpad. Guys are already at it! Keep watchin' here - http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/29831-hp-touchpads-now-99-time-for-cm7/

There is also a geeky discussion going on here anout how to install Ubuntu on Touchpad - http://forums.precentral.net/webos-development/289421-ubuntu-touchpad.html

btw, here is an article which discourages Why You Should Avoid the HP TouchPad (Even at $99) (http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/201153/20110820/why-to-avoid-the-hp-touchpad-even-at-99.htm)

SKV,

Thanks for the links. :ty:

[Nerd]

Yaaro munnaadiyE kEtta maadhiri, can someone explain whats the use of a tablet PC? Onnu laptop-aa irukkanum illai chinnadhaa venumnna smartphone vaangalaamE :? :?

Sorry I am technologically challenged :oops:

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

உங்கள மாதிரி ஆட்களுக்குத்தான் Asus is coming up with Padfone! Its a Smartphone inside a Tablet. If u want only phone, then carry only phone. or else, dock the phone inside the tablet and coarry both.

http://www.techshout.com/img/asus-padfone.jpg

Nerd, will come up with tablet pc usages, shortly!

[Bala (Karthik)]

Yaaro munnaadiyE kEtta maadhiri, can someone explain whats the use of a tablet PC? Onnu laptop-aa irukkanum illai chinnadhaa venumnna smartphone vaangalaamE :? :?

Sorry I am technologically challenged :oops:
Tangential kostin: The oft quoted maxim, it's business first and technology is its servant - does everybody here think this is "obvious"? Is there anyone who thinks this isn't always true?

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Nerd and Others, I will try to explain the usages of Tablet PCs in consumer/end user POV. I will discuss both Current/present usages & also futuristic/evolving ideas. I guess my post may grow as we discuss..

But the main question will be, Either Smartphone or Laptop, why the heck is a thing called tablet needed. That's what Bala/Nerd asks and Softsword long back asked why tablets, in place of laptops.

Tablet PCs are not new. A decade before, Microsoft tried it and flopped too badly. But why such a tablet craze now? Atleast to a particular section of consumers, if not all.

1. Form Factor & Portability(Not bulky as laptop). A Smartphone is too small and congested for some tasks. Laptop lacks true mobility. You cannot hold a laptop and type and walk. Forget PC. You can do that with tablet. Why carry bulk laptop?

2. Replaces PC/Laptop for most common functions(Browsing, Lightweight office-work(word excel), email, ebook reader, games, music, video, chat etc

3. Tons of Apps in market/appstore, yielding the functionality of many PC apps which are bulky/buggy and slow, even now

4. Make use of hardware - touchscreen, Accelerometer, GPS,

5. Use tablet as Virtual Machine, escape from Bulk PC/Laptop, operate ur computer from tablet.

6. Augmented Reality, LBS(location based apps) - this is possible in smartphone too but tablet has more screen real estate. AR in tablets is becoming exciting research area in Education. Already there are good no of AR Apps in both iPad and Android.

Random ramblings...

The absence of physical keyboard is no more a minus. There are ppl becoming fastest typers on tablets. Or else buy bluetooth keyboard. As of now, one reason why Asus tablet is a hit is, it has a superb keyboard dock with also has a touchpad, battery, and usb slots. this makes the tablet almost a laptop. Only missing things are a hard disk and a DVD drive. In future, generic bases will be available & they will be compatible with all tablets. They will have all built in - keyboard, touchpad, usb/sd slots, harddisks DVD drives, battery and much more.

Nicholas Negroponte, the brain behind OLPC $100 Laptop, himself is betting big on future of tablets.
Here is his superb vision - http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/03/ff_tablet_essays/3/

iPad concerts are becoming possible. Group of 4 or 5 ppl use tablets to play each instruments. laptops, even smartphones unusable this way!!
You can learn piano/play guitar with tablet. how about same in Laptop/Smartphone?!? Usages keep growing..

Why suddenly, after Apple's iPad success, almost all consumer electronics company are trying hands and testing waters in tablets?
Samsung, Motorola, LG, Acer, Asus, Lenova, HP, Dell, RIM(Blackberry), HTC, Toshiba,
Indian version is Reliance, Beetel(airtel), Infibeam, Spice, Olive Telecom, Notion Ink, HCL...the list keeps growing.
Recent market study stated that 2nd place in total volume sales, next to iPad, is not to any of these tablets, but it (collectively)went to unbranded China tablets from 2nd tier companies. Viewsonic G-tablet is one such. This itself should give some clue. Even though we have to wait for the ultimate All in one Tablet, there is no doubt that "Tablets are the future".

Tablet Computers coming recently are sporting dual core 1 GHz CPUs. This CPU is called ARM CPU. Now, even low power Intel atom can't run without a Fan*
(which is an important candidate in draining battery) so tablet is a fanless computer. Tablets won't do ALL which PC/Laptops do but is growing fast to become equal to computational power of PC. Even without a fan, with a battery much smaller than the one in laptops, tabs do excellent jobs - they run most of the apps which takes huge comuting power on a traditional PC.

Windows OS never cared an hardware platform other than Intel. PowerPC etc all survived purely becos of Apple. Now even Mac has only Intel CPUs. In this scene, all of a sudden, Windows had started the effort to port it's OS to ARM CPU. Why? Without ARM there just are NO Tablets. ALL tablets are powered by ARM CPUs, ARM-Cortex to be specific. (Unbranded china tabs use ARM11) So this move indirectly tells that Microsoft is prepping itself a tablet version of its OS. Incase, in future, "tablet hardware power" becomes fully equal to, or exceeds the raw computing power of today's PC/Laptop, MS has to release a tablet version. (Tablet HW power is already increasing, quad core 2 GHz CPUs likely to appear next year. Imagine 2GHz, 4 cores running without fan!!!)

Stats already say there are slight slowdown in PC Sales per quarter and tablet sales are increasing. There are lots of enterprises giving tablets to the Sales, Marketing ppl instead of laptops. In US, Many bank reps already using iPads.

The feeling that one day tablets will completely replace PC/Laptop is already is in air. kindly google something like "will tablets replace laptops"

As of now, one thing impossible in tablets are software development. You cannot run compile and debug your sophisticated big project, on a tablet. Complex IDEs are not available at the moment. But in android tablets, you can compile fairly complex programs etc. In future, tablet screen sizes may grow, and it will dock with a tons of accessories for multiple purposes which are assumed impossible now. Tablets will become highly flexible and each one can choose configurations of their interest.

Note 1: I will write the education scenario afterwards. There is also application specific/industry specific usage scenarios but i don't know how many are interested in discussing that...

Note 2: Bala, as you said, its business first and technology is its servant. May i dubb that like this? - "Any technology without solid use is a waste". But the usecases in tablets are only evolving, and limited only to imagination. for ex, a GPS on tablet has much more uses than in a Smartphone. For ex, you can see 2 totally different routes on single screen, at same time.

* - http://goo.gl/IuUga (Atoms are scoring less than ARM cores, even without fan)

Consider this: if there is no power & i am feeling sweat,, iCan use iPad as iFan(just hold the iPad in both hands and blow some air to your face). Forget PC, What about laptop/smartphone? is this possible?!? :wink: this feature works even if the battery is low. much needed feature in hot countries. Like fone app, this is called fan app, it comes pre-installed in ALL 7" and 10" tablets.

[venkkiram]

நானும் இனி மாத்திரை சாப்பிட போறேன் ! ஆமாம். Placed the order today for HP Touchpad 16GB from "bornesandnoble.com". 100$. இனி இந்தத் திரிக்கு அடிக்கடி வருவேன்!

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

best of luck venki! if you wish to hack and run android on ur touchpad, keep an eye here - http://www.fzservers.com/touchdroid/index.php?title=Main_Page

Is தொடுபலகை the right trans for touchpad!! some ppl call tablets as குளிகை which means மாத்திரை.
Tablet என்ற பதத்திற்கு ஒரு அழகான தமிழ்ப்பெயர் வையுங்களேன் :)

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

http://venturebeat.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/appmap_640.jpg?w=640&h=750
India in Global Top3 spot, in a survey of where Android Apps & ideas are born :clap:

But wondering why Silicon Valley not in list!

[vithagan]

SKV,

Thanks for your detailed explanation. I ordered just because its cheap.. idhula ivlo vishayam irukka??
I'm glad I bought the Touchpad ;)

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Vithagan, right now i don't have anybody(among friends) to bring the device to india. or else even i too wud have ordered one. At $99, its a steal! You can read in hackers thread that ppl are buying in 3 and 4 numbers! Just that now everywhere its out of stock!

btw, if you are not aware of hacking, modding etc, don't try. The WebOS which comes with touchpad itself is enuf for most of the basic functions like web browsing, photos, videos, music, productivity, games, apps etc.

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Nerd, Bala, Softword & others, my post about Need for Tablets is in last page :)

[rajraj]

Is தொடுபலகை the right trans for touchpad!! some ppl call tablets as குளிகை which means மாத்திரை.
Tablet என்ற பதத்திற்கு ஒரு அழகான தமிழ்ப்பெயர் வையுங்களேன் :)

Tablet means small table or small writing pad/board ( from Latin and French). Sirupalagai may be appropriate! :) Remember we used to slate and palappam where you could write and erase with your hand! :)

[vithagan]

Vithagan, right now i don't have anybody(among friends) to bring the device to india. or else even i too wud have ordered one. At $99, its a steal! You can read in hackers thread that ppl are buying in 3 and 4 numbers! Just that now everywhere its out of stock!

All low level retailer websites got crashed yesterday.. Tigerdirect, Circuitcity, Compusa.. because of the heavy traffic for touchpad. Also some websites have taken the orders more than their inventory so we are getting cancellations for our order. Even I got a cancellation from BarnesandNobles(Alert to Venki). Totally I ordered 6 for me and my friends, lets see how many i get :)



btw, if you are not aware of hacking, modding etc, don't try. The WebOS which comes with touchpad itself is enuf for most of the basic functions like web browsing, photos, videos, music, productivity, games, apps etc.

I'm fine with basic functions for now. If Android porting is available and its proven to be success then I'll think of installing Android.

[satissh_r]

நானும் இனி மாத்திரை சாப்பிட போறேன் ! ஆமாம். Placed the order today for HP Touchpad 16GB from "bornesandnoble.com". 100$. இனி இந்தத் திரிக்கு அடிக்கடி வருவேன்!

Venki, நீங்க வாங்கின site link அனுப்ப முடியுமா? என்னால barnesandnoble.com ல கண்டு பிடிக்க முடியல

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

here u go - http://gifts.barnesandnoble.com/home-gift/container/4-merch.asp?PID=36890

but its out of stock dude... check Tigerdirect, Circuitcity, Compusa, bestbuy, newegg etc.

I saw 16 gb version in ebay for $119.

[satissh_r]

Thanks Sakala! Will check out all those sites

[vithagan]

here u go - http://gifts.barnesandnoble.com/home-gift/container/4-merch.asp?PID=36890

but its out of stock dude... check Tigerdirect, Circuitcity, Compusa, bestbuy, newegg etc.

I saw 16 gb version in ebay for $119.

I don't think they have currently in stock from any retailers with the discounted price.

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

some hav brought many and selling in ebay, but $20 extra! - http://www.ebay.com/itm/310332864546?afepn=5335869999&campid=5335869999&PID=1225267

[Nerd]

Sakala, thanks for the inputs.

Andha 'light work' point mattum dhaan apply aagum. I don't even use apps from apple store. To me, I thing tablets are difficult to work with simply because I don't know how to handle them while browsing. Laptop-naa madila / table la vechikkalaam. Smartphone easyaa kaila vechikkalaam. Tabletkku onnu stand vaanganum illainaa kashtam dhaane.. Padam paakkuradhukku / book padikkiradhukku nallaa irukkum, especially in flights..

Anyway andha 99$ deal thirumba vandhaa vaanguvEn, not for me. India vandhaa gift pannalaam friends/relatives :mrgreen:

[littlemaster1982]

Nerd,

Aduttha India trip eppo :mrgreen:

[Nerd]

Nerd,

Aduttha India trip eppo :mrgreen:
:lol: Good one. Anyway theriyalai December may be.

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Nerd, you are having a problem with mechanical placement, handling/holding the tablet. not only you but many have this question.

not only this issue, there are lots of other issues for consumers. iPad didn't solve many of those issues but it did perfectly whatever it did and never crossed border. iPad is mainly not for ppl who open 30 to 40 tabs at a time in laptop and do rigorous multitasking(currently i have 21 tabs open). That's how iPad is evolving but Android tablets can multitask.

Now, the answer for your solution exists here and there, like Asus Transformer. You ore not only getting a way place the tablet but you are able to type, use touchpad, while ur device is charging from the battery in the base.

In future, once the raw computing power of PC is available with tablet pc's, then the bigger applications, packages (like compilers, bulk data processing, batch processing etc) will simply be ported to tablet OSes like Android & iOS.

At that time, you will not find only two kinds of devices, ie a Computer and Laptop, instead you will find devices in many shapes, various screen sizes.

And there will be Universal Keyboard stands which will dock almost all kinds of tablets, paving way to hold the tablet like a laptop, at the same time, having many extra functions.

Now itself some tablets come with a inbuilt stand on back, where you can place the tablet on table like a digital foto frame.

So, either this stands or Keyboard docks will help if you dont want to hold it. Other times, it will be fun to use holding it in one hand, anyways you need not hold for long time :) Samsung, apple & notion Ink tablets are known for holding with ease for long time, and they are slim and weighs less compared to other tablets. You wont like to hold a laptop for too long but tablets are comparatively less weight and easy to hold.

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

:lol: Good one. Anyway theriyalai December may be.That time you may find much better offers at thanksgiving and Christmas rite? Much better for friends like LM :wink: :lol2:

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Nerd, regarding ur tablet holding issue? why holding? how do you place your laptop, same way place it on a table, or on a lap! Simple! And Tablets anyways are less than half the weight of laptops. Hope y have seen the ipad smart cover! It gives you elavation easy for typing, u also can place it like a foto frame, and protects the screen when not in use! thast 3 in 1 :)
http://mygadgetnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/apple_smartcover.jpg

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

http://www.firstpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Cartoon_201108260259_620x355.jpeg

[vithagan]

Yesterday I got my Touchpad delivered. Its nice on first look, need to explore more.. but its bit heavy :(. For $100 we can't complaint.. Android mattum install panna mudinja kalakkal dhaan :smokesmirk:

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Vithagan, Android 2.2 is ported ot touchpad successfully. Ithellaam gun maathiri panniduvaanga :lol:

Try reading this forum. http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3692

But if you dont want to try now, then try this! -
Best HP TouchPad Apps (http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/best-hp-touchpad-apps/)
5 good games for the HP TouchPad (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-news/5-good-games-for-the-hp-touchpad/4034)

[vithagan]

Vithagan, Android 2.2 is ported ot touchpad successfully. Ithellaam gun maathiri panniduvaanga :lol:

Try reading this forum. http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3692

But if you dont want to try now, then try this! -
Best HP TouchPad Apps (http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/best-hp-touchpad-apps/)
5 good games for the HP TouchPad (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-news/5-good-games-for-the-hp-touchpad/4034)

Cool.. But will wait for some time before installing Android.:roll:

Yes I tried few apps.. Thanks for sharing the info.
First one I tried.. Angry Birds HD ;)

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Read the roozwiki website carefully, generally the Android port may not work fully in 1st version. They will keep on adding new features one by one. For example in 1st version speaker/sound driver may not be ready so u cant play songs at all! But if u are satisfied with WebOS itself, which will have almost all feates, then dont attempt Android at all!

I guess there will be apps for most of the essential functions. For a normal user, thats more than enuf!

[vithagan]

I guess there will be apps for most of the essential functions. For a normal user, thats more than enuf!

True..I'm happy with WebOS for now. But still will keep an eye on Android development for touchpad ;)

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

But still will keep an eye on Android development for touchpad ;)
Vithagan, Thats the Spirit! :thumbsup:

[venkkiram]

True..I'm happy with WebOS for now. But still will keep an eye on Android development for touchpad ;)
ஆர்டர் செய்து கேன்சல் செய்யப்பட்ட ஆயிரக்கணக்கான மக்களில் நானும் ஒருவன். எனினும் மையத்தில் உங்களுக்கு கிடைத்த வரையில் சந்தோசம். அடிக்கடி அதன் உபயோகங்களை பகிருங்கள். தெரிந்து கொள்ள உதவும்.

[Dilbert]

Wow Nice thread Vithagar ! Me too got couple of them 1 from HP and another one from Staples sunday morning , Yet to open them.. However I did checkout my friend's touch pad which he brought for full price when it was launched. These are my observations. (*Disclaimer alert , I AM A BIG APPLE HATER, Pro open course full meals)

1) HP Got All wrong when it came to hardware architecture, simply one of common not so great ARMs in the market. With the kind of money they had invested in the divison, I was expecting more.
2) Brillant piece was the WebOS , which was one of the First and best mobile platform , very stable remember Palm were the pioneers in touchscreen interfaces..etc etc. Idiots sorry geniuses in HP
did not jusify this OS by releasing a mobile version on a tablet.
3) Multitasking is tricky not all user firendly..
4) Best rumor about touchpad last week was not "Bryna's tweets" lol .. It seems HP is deciding on their 1.3 billion dollar investment WebOS future they are planning to make it open course meal. If this is true this is one of the best things happened since slice bread :lol:
This would the closest competitor to Apple interms of Stable Operating system. It will be interesting to see.

Now coming to the main piece of advice "DO NOT PORT THIS TO ANDORID" reason, Rate at which Google is canceling its licensing contracts with manufacturers , days are not far that Open Source version(s) of andorid will have far less capablities than the "Google offical Versions" We have already seen this happening for Ginger bread , Honey comb and the update windows are only getting longer Ginger close to 6-8 months avg. With Google entering in to mobile manufacturing with motorola's acquisition, :( I am pretty sure we will be seeing this kind of hard handed control from google even more now.

Also one of the manufacturers , whom google refused to work with Might be building the first quad core for apple Ipad 3 later in 2012.. who thought apple would move from samsung who provided them with some amazing piece of hardware over the years.. "Hail A6"

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

ஆர்டர் செய்து கேன்சல் செய்யப்பட்ட ஆயிரக்கணக்கான மக்களில் நானும் ஒருவன். எனினும் மையத்தில் உங்களுக்கு கிடைத்த வரையில் சந்தோசம். அடிக்கடி அதன் உபயோகங்களை பகிருங்கள். தெரிந்து கொள்ள உதவும்.

Venki, keep an eye on Bestbuy, there are some touchpad stocks expected. If you are willing to spend $20 extra, ebay has some, with Android preloaded :)

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Dilbert, don't worry about Android port, once open source is released its not easy and possible to stop porting it to devices already sold. I mean the hardware is sold and nobody cares a foot about hacking the device with any aftermarket firmware, be it Android(released versions) or some other mobile OS.

Regarding features too, once the base OS is set, there is nothing stopping to add extra features and only limit is hardware

As for patents, the main culprit is Apple & Msft. Anyways that will affect only devices releasing with Android and doesn't cover unofficial ports like Touchpad. Even there, Google has wise lists of selected patents portfolio form IBM and Motorola. Wait for fun in coming days :wink:

[vithagan]

ஆர்டர் செய்து கேன்சல் செய்யப்பட்ட ஆயிரக்கணக்கான மக்களில் நானும் ஒருவன். எனினும் மையத்தில் உங்களுக்கு கிடைத்த வரையில் சந்தோசம். அடிக்கடி அதன் உபயோகங்களை பகிருங்கள். தெரிந்து கொள்ள உதவும்.

Thanks Venki.. even I ordered 6 (for my colleagues & friends) but just got one. There is rumour that HP.com will be having some stock this week.. watch for Hp and Bestbuy websites.

Whether Touchpad is worth for Original price of $400 - $500?, definitely not. But for $100, its a steal. I'll be using just for facebook, youtube and web.. and.. Angry Birds ;)

One thing I liked on WebOS/PalmOS is 'closing the window/application', just drag the window to the top like throwing the paper :)

[Nerd]

Any other useful 100$-150$ tablet in the USA?

[Dilbert]

Dilbert, don't worry about Android port, once open source is released its not easy and possible to stop porting it to devices already sold. I mean the hardware is sold and nobody cares a foot about hacking the device with any aftermarket firmware, be it Android(released versions) or some other mobile OS.

Regarding features too, once the base OS is set, there is nothing stopping to add extra features and only limit is hardware

As for patents, the main culprit is Apple & Msft. Anyways that will affect only devices releasing with Android and doesn't cover unofficial ports like Touchpad. Even there, Google has wise lists of selected patents portfolio form IBM and Motorola. Wait for fun in coming days :wink:

Sakala May be you know something more than my bread and butter ! :-)

[Dilbert]

Any other useful 100$-150$ tablet in the USA?

Several ! - Ipad 1 , Galaxy 1 , Dell Streak , Viewsonic, Archos !! If all you care is to watch thaliavar padam ! upclose :lol: than these are decent options

If you can spending another 100 bucks more, trying getting Acer Iconia Staples has some additional 100$ off or something.. its a good tablet.

It all depends on usage ! Anger birds v/s some serious multitasking stuff..

[Dilbert]

I wish only wish it was http://www.zdnet.com/blog/gadgetreviews/first-look-hp-touchpad-4g-from-at-t-updated/26313 this version of touch pad at 99 , 149 :cry:

I would have saved the world , by fighting climate change, world hunger, uncle lok pal.. ! wow I could have saved even humanity's sanity !

[vithagan]

Several ! - Ipad 1 , Galaxy 1 , Dell Streak , Viewsonic, Archos !! If all you care is to watch thaliavar padam ! upclose :lol: than these are decent options

If you can spending another 100 bucks more, trying getting Acer Iconia Staples has some additional 100$ off or something.. its a good tablet.

It all depends on usage ! Anger birds v/s some serious multitasking stuff..

Ipad1 for $100?? you mean craigslist??

[Dilbert]

Ipad1 for $100?? you mean craigslist??

ellappa Ipad 1 16gb 149 , 199 range in cowboom, ebay.. !

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Sakala May be you know something more than my bread and butter ! :-)I dont know what ir ur bread and butter sir but iam embedded linux oppicher and work closely about porting hacking etc. not limited to android but ubuntu, Amstrong plain vanilla linux

[vithagan]

ellappa Ipad 1 16gb 149 , 199 range in cowboom, ebay.. !

Previously used... chelladhu chelladhu.. :)

[vithagan]

SKV,

Question on HP touchpad.. currently its not supporting Tamil font.. do you know any way to make it work?

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

http://www.lirent.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/apple_evolution.jpg
A Company others can only dream of! What a treat for consumers! Its ONLY heaven for consumers....

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Vithagan, See if you can install Opera browser, then you can view tamil fonts. In Adnroid phones, Opera is the ONLY way!

If you don't get Opera for Touchpad, try this:- In your Browser Settings select 'Text encoding' and set it to UTF-8. Kindly post the result. I am not sure if this will work or not....

Before changing, make note of existing option! If UTF-8 doesn't work, you may need to revert it back

[vithagan]

Vithagan, See if you can install Opera browser, then you can view tamil fonts. In Adnroid phones, Opera is the ONLY way!

If you don't get Opera for Touchpad, try this:- In your Browser Settings select 'Text encoding' and set it to UTF-8. Kindly post the result. I am not sure if this will work or not....

Before changing, make note of existing option! If UTF-8 doesn't work, you may need to revert it back

I'm not able to get into browser settings, I just have Browser preferences which has the following option

Block Popups
Accept Cookies
Enable Javascript
Enable flash
Autoload flash

Other than that I don't see settings for text encoding.

[rsubras]

which is the best* android phone? Samsung or Sony Ericsson or Motorola

* Best - (in my definition)

- Cost effective, fast, good resolution, Wi Fi, 3G, supporting many apps

- Camera / Music quality not a matter at all

- Price should be around 10K

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Rsubras, I have Dell XCD35 which is 10K, Its the best Smartphone in this range. Kindly search for my posts in this thread or see the comments for this mobile in flipkart.com

"supporting many apps" - In android all mobiles support most apps. need not worry about that, This is the great technical beauty of android!

- Cost effective, fast, good resolution, Wi Fi, 3G, - All this fits for this mobile! Resolution is higher than iPhone 3 and Screen size is equal to iPhone. all other 10K Android phones lacks this!

- Camera / Music quality not a matter at all - Yes! Camera and Speaker quality not that great but u can wear headphones. But this is the most you are getting in this price range

[rsubras]

thanks sakala..where do you get it? In bangy or Chennai? in DELL show room? why is it not available in univercell, poorvika etc.,?

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Dell doesn't have strong dealership network for mobiles it seems. I got it in a local shop bangalore(10.1 K) , but need not worry, mostly its genuine except burma bazzaar types. In chennai, most of the big and medium shops shud have it i guess.

You can take time to know the features and to find dealers. Local shops and dealers may sell for less. Poorvika Univercell & shopping malls etc may sell close to 11k.

If you are ready to shell extra 4K, i would suggest Spice Mi-410 which is rebranded Huawei IdeOS X6 phone. 4 inch 1 GHz phone

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Rsubras, just one info, In case if you buy Dell XCD35, buy only those which comes with Android 2.2. Some resellers are selling the same phone with version 2.1 which is slightly older..

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

"Don’t underestimate 'work productivity credentials' of consumer tablets" - ZDNet Article (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/small-business-matters/dont-underestimate-work-productivity-credentials-of-consumer-tablets/145?tag=nl.e539)

[rsubras]

Rsubras, just one info, In case if you buy Dell XCD35, buy only those which comes with Android 2.2. Some resellers are selling the same phone with version 2.1 which is slightly older..

sure sakala..will keep in mind.........thankees :)

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

thought provoking...

Can Windows 8 save the PC? (http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/09/09/7692111-can-windows-8-save-the-pc)

Last weekend I accompanied my 20-something sister-in-law to a Best Buy to purchase an iPad 2. She previously considered buying a Windows laptop, but as it turns out Apple’s tablet does everything that she needs. And that’s a pretty scary thing for the PC industry. Cash-strapped consumers aren’t choosing tablets merely as complementary devices. Increasingly, it’s an either/or decision — and Windows is losing.

This week Gartner reduced its PC shipment growth forecast from 9.3 to 3.8 percent, placing the blame on economic woes in Western Europe and the U.S. There’s another culprit though: the rise of tablets. According to Ranjit Atwal, research director at Gartner, those in Generation Y (like my sister-in-law) “are not buying PCs as their first, or necessarily main, device.” He also said that older buyers don’t see today’s PCs as compelling. Microsoft apparently got the same memo, as evidenced by its recent commercials that transform people’s homes into computer stores.

This marketing campaign is just a stop-gap measure. The real solution won’t arrive until this time next year when the first Windows 8 devices hit the market. One of those devices will likely be a tablet made by Samsung, which Microsoft will reportedly unveil at BUILD next week.

That’s part of the best-of-both-worlds argument that Microsoft and its partners will try to make with Windows 8. You’ll see pure slate devices sold but also many tablets that let you access a full keyboard when you need it, such as the Sliding Series 7 and the Eee Pad Transformer. I personally would appreciate that kind of versatility, so long as I don’t have to compromise much in the way of portability.

Windows 8 PCs won’t just run mobile apps. They’ll act like mobile devices. That’s because Microsoft says that it has found a way to boot machines to the OS in just 8 seconds. A new fast startup mode that’s a hybrid of the traditional cold boot and resuming from hibernate will be able to get you to the Metro UI faster than you can say “This is a PC?”

The toughest challenge for Microsoft is to prove to shoppers that having full-blown Windows running underneath a sleek interface isn’t a turn-off. For many consumers — especially those who have fled to Macs—Windows has become synonymous with incessant software updates, security headaches and needless complexity. Some of these reasons led to Apple’s Lion beating Windows 7 in our recent face-off.

Can Microsoft make the rest of Windows 8 just as inviting as that start screen? So far, some of the tweaks under the hood have spurred controversy. Last week, Windows President Steven Sinofsky defended the decision to opt for a Ribbon-style interface for Windows Explorer. This UI treatment, which presents multiple options along the top of the toolbar, resulted in a backlash a few years ago when it debuted on Microsoft Office. In a blog post, Sinofsky countered by saying that users should think of the desktop as just another app.

While writing this column on a Windows laptop, I had to reboot because my machine froze. This reinforced my strong belief that Microsoft’s ability to keep the PC alive doesn’t depend on the company’s ability to wow with touch or compelling apps. :lol: It comes down to whether Microsoft can convince consumers that they can continue to enjoy the PC’s versatility without the traditional PC baggage. That they made the right call in scaling down their desktop OS instead of starting from scratch like Apple did with iOS and the iPad. There’s a fine line between the best of both worlds and a world of hurt.

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

For those concerned, Microsoft is soon gonna release Windows 8 based Tablets. This tablet is gonna sport Nvidia CPU. Most of the tablets (Samsung, Toshiba, Acer, Notion Ink, Motorola, Asus) are havint Nvidia's Dual core 1 GHz CPUs. This windows tablet is 1st one to come with Quad Core 1GHz CPU.

Generally its known that whatever high speed CPU or higher memory windows uses, its performance remains mostly same :lol2: But this time, there is no reference as this is the 1st windows tablet. But in case if this tablet outperforms other tablets then we can see wave of Windows developers porting their apps to windows tablet platform. Then the tablet scene may get more hotter

[vithagan]

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2011/04/08/dnt.me.ipad.kindergarten.wgme?iref=allsearch

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

http://www.dinamalar.com/mobile/android/
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.softcraft.dinamalar&rdid=com.softcraft.dinamalar&rdot=1

Dinamalar is the 1st daily to release Android App! I d'loaded, its smooth, font settings are cool!

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Microsoft's Metro proves the PC is dead (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/microsofts-metro-proves-the-pc-is-dead/18705?tag=nl.e539)
http://i.zdnet.com/blogs/davidburela.png?tag=content;siu-container

Nothing going to happen soon but gradually the PC formfactor is gonna makeshift

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Another Windows Version. Another Hardware Upgrade. (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/virtualization/another-windows-version-another-hardware-upgrade/3849?tag=nl.e539)

How many of you are still using Windows XP and still happy about it?

Generally, how many once in few years, windows users here are upgrading their hardware?

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Another Low cost Tablet, targetting Indian Schools, but this time more promising than the $35 Indian Govt Tablet. This is from Rice University. The team is aiming for a solar power based tablet :clap:
http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/ISAID-Islate-plus-Indian-tablet-update/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nk8055kULjM

[satissh_r]

Sakala and others, need your suggestion for a mobile phone. Max budget is 20K, audio output should be good, capable of installing lot of apps, wi-fi and 3G included.

Thanks!

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

satissh_r dear, i am repeating many times, any phone with having capacity to install many apps will surely have 3G & Wi-Fi. Obviously its iPhone and Android, the most popular choice.

At the range u r expecting(20K) the Android phones i Suggest are Google Nexus S & LG Optimus Black P970.
More comparisons of phones in similar range - http://www.flipkart.com/mobiles/compare?ids=MOBCZKHWQHN2HHD5,MOBCVWAVYVZUYH5C,MOBC U9N2NGUAHEEY

Once you have selected a specific phone, look for an engadget/slashgear review for the same. Generally Sony Eriricsson would have good audio quality in both calls and music. Both headphones and speaker quality would be good.

[satissh_r]

Sorry for not stating things clearly Sakala, what I meant is a phone that is best in its class. I read your post suggesting Dell XCD 35 where you said it was the best in that price range. Similarly, I wanted a phone that has good sound etc.

I generally read reviews from GSMArena so thanks for suggesting these 2 sites, I'm checking them right away :)

Also, what do you think of Nokia 700 and the Symbian Belle OS?

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Sathish, absolutely no idea about Nokia/Blackberry. I am only Android :D I suggest Android based smartphones becos they are much affordable and equally fumctional with iPhone. There simply is no alternative as of now, technically and feature wise.

This link also may help - http://www.letsbuy.com/advanced_search_result.php?price=15500-23200&keywords=android

There is a saying that "Digital Cameras are not just MegaPixel, there is muchmore beyind that". Similarly, mobiles are not just hardware specs, there is another important thing called apps/ecosystem. Add affordability too and you automatically land on Android Smartphones.

[satissh_r]

Sakala, thanks for the link :) I've had about 7 Nokia phones till date and with every single one of them I had a problem within a year :(
I'm keen on getting an Android phone too, most of the reviews suggest its the best OS around. Since there seem to be so many options I'm slightly confused :)

[villan007]

any recommendations for HTC Chacha? i see mixed reviews wrt battery life for all android mobiles :?

[littlemaster1982]

Satissh,

Get Samsung Galaxy S I9003 (http://www.flipkart.com/mobiles/samsung/itmcvwavyvzuyh5c?pid=mobcvwavyvzuyh5c&_l=QS9xhdj4Usqs5XyTBjWCww--&_r=4LZx0OeHRAmPYmuOPA6U7Q--&ref=30e3cb58-05b8-405d-9eab-860280e226c1) for 17,990. This is almost same as I9000, the difference being S-LCD screen instead of Super AMOLED. The only thing you need to check out is the battery backup. This is the best phone you can get under 20K.

[vithagan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqeD_QvW1Us&feature=player_embedded

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Apple's iPhone 4S is swell, but pricing is the real killer app (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/apples-iphone-4s-is-swell-but-pricing-is-the-real-killer-app/59761?tag=nl.e589)

Here’s the rundown:

The iPhone 4S starts at $199 for a 16GB device.
The iPhone 4 moves to $99.
And the iPhone 3GS is now free.

The expectation that apple is releasing iPhone5 is gone now. But anyways, iPhone5 should be a new generation new features... maybe quad core?!?

As of now, Apple cleverly released an iPhone refresh with the same chip in iPad, and few features like voice search etc, but the main attraction is the price point. Tough kaampteesan for Android!

[Anban]

Satissh,

Get Samsung Galaxy S I9003 (http://www.flipkart.com/mobiles/samsung/itmcvwavyvzuyh5c?pid=mobcvwavyvzuyh5c&_l=QS9xhdj4Usqs5XyTBjWCww--&_r=4LZx0OeHRAmPYmuOPA6U7Q--&ref=30e3cb58-05b8-405d-9eab-860280e226c1) for 17,990. This is almost same as I9000, the difference being S-LCD screen instead of Super AMOLED. The only thing you need to check out is the battery backup. This is the best phone you can get under 20K.

Yes ... Awesome phone .. There are apps like juice defender to take care of battery life ...

[Nerd]

Finally finally ordered the S2 from Amazonwireless for $150. This will be for the wife. I am getting iPhone 4 for $99 next week. Played with S2 at the store for a little while and I already think S2 > iPhone 4. iPhone 4S is plain BS. That Siri figure won't understand my Indian accent and I don't see the point anyway. I can actually install the iOS 5 on my iPhone 4.

[satissh_r]

Satissh,

Get Samsung Galaxy S I9003 (http://www.flipkart.com/mobiles/samsung/itmcvwavyvzuyh5c?pid=mobcvwavyvzuyh5c&_l=QS9xhdj4Usqs5XyTBjWCww--&_r=4LZx0OeHRAmPYmuOPA6U7Q--&ref=30e3cb58-05b8-405d-9eab-860280e226c1) for 17,990. This is almost same as I9000, the difference being S-LCD screen instead of Super AMOLED. The only thing you need to check out is the battery backup. This is the best phone you can get under 20K.

Thanks LM, this is on the top of the list now :) Any idea on the audio clarity through headphones?

[satissh_r]

Yes ... Awesome phone .. There are apps like juice defender to take care of battery life ...

Thanks Anban, do you own this phone? Any other feedback? How about the audio quality?

[littlemaster1982]

Thanks LM, this is on the top of the list now :) Any idea on the audio clarity through headphones?

Supplied earphones (IEMs) are just ok, compared to Sony Ericsson headset I had before. I'm using this Sony earphone (http://www.sony.co.in/product/mdr-ex35lp) with my Samsung Wave and the audio quality is quite good (volume is little less, though).

[littlemaster1982]

Thanks Anban, do you own this phone? Any other feedback? How about the audio quality?

If I'm not wrong, Anban has I9000 version. You can also check with Anoop if possible (he had SGS a while back).

[satissh_r]

Thanks again LM, I'm planning to buy a good earphone too so may be that'll help

[Anban]

Thanks Anban, do you own this phone? Any other feedback? How about the audio quality?

Good .. Some apps can disturb functionality .. If you are someone who can do some research online this phone can be fantastic

[Anban]

If I'm not wrong, Anban has I9000 version. You can also check with Anoop if possible (he had SGS a while back).

Yes ... 9003 is nothing much different ..

[satissh_r]

Ok Cheers!

[sathya_1979]

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/steve-jobs-apple-ceo-dies/story?id=14383813

(http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/steve-jobs-apple-ceo-dies/story?id=14383813):( RIP Steve, your contributions and innovations will live on for ever :bow:

http://www.apple.com/stevejobs/


(http://www.apple.com/stevejobs/)

[venkkiram]

Steve Jobs RIP. Certainly a big loss to creative world. He is Thomos Edison of our time. Not just apple computers.. Pixar studios is his baby too :cry:

[littlemaster1982]

Great gesture from Google :notworthy:

http://4.mshcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/google-stevejobs.jpg

[KV]

RIP.
I actually expected a doodle, nonetheless, nice gesture.

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

:shock: :( RIP

He has died one day b4 my b'day. Really Sad! A dream person for all innovators...

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/10/ripstevejobs-600.jpg

Steve Jobs in his own words (http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/05/steve-jobs-in-his-own-words/)

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

'$35' Android tablet launches in India, but it's now $61 (http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Datawind-Aakash-UbiSlate-7/)

The "$35" Indian Tablet was announced first as a Linux tablet in July 2010, and was revealed to be an Android tablet several weeks later. The much-delayed release of the tablet was tipped with few details earlier this week, but NDTV reported Oct. 5 that the device has finally materialized in the form of the Aakash UbiSlate 7 tablet.

Delayed for many months, and looking nothing like the original prototype, the Aakash UbiSlate 7 is designed primarily for Indian students from primary schools to universities. It will be sold at a discount through schools in conjunction with India's Human Resource Development agency. The tablet will be manufactured by Datawind in Hyderabad, India, according to NDTV.

Depending on how one measures it, the tablet project either grossly missed its $35 mark or will beat it by almost $5. According to an NDTV video clip on YouTube (see farther below) the tablet costs $38 to manufacture, and with transportation and warranty costs, that rises to $50.

The retail list price is 2,999 Rupees ($61), according to a Aakash UbiSlate 7 product page posted by U.K.-based Datawind. The NDTV web story, however, says the Indian government has promised to subsidize the price by 50 percent to students, so the student cost will be 1,500 Rupees ($30.50).


The tablet runs on an unnamed processor from Conexant equipped with both graphics and video acceleration, says Datawind. According to NDTV, it runs at a lowly 366MHz. (The Conexant website shows a variety of audio system on chips (SoCs), codecs, and other multimedia-oriented products, but no full-fledged, Android-ready processor.)

Datawind says the tablet plays HD video, but doesn't define what that means. NDTV claims the device plays full 1080p video, which would be rather remarkable for a 366MHz processor running on a $60 tablet, even with a video accelerator.

Equipped with a modest 256MB of RAM and 2GB of internal flash, the Aakash UbiSlate 7 also supplies a microSD slot for storage expansion, says Datawind. The NDTV video says a 2GB data card is also supplied, although Datawind makes no mention of this.

Availability

According to Datawind, the Aakash UbiSlate 7 is now available for purchase by the public for 2,999 Rupees, or about $61. Government subsidies to students may bring that down to $35 or $30. More information may be found at the Datawind Aakash UbiSlate 7.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoSBpafIQQE&feature=player_embedded

http://www.aakashlcad.com/features.html

http://www.aakashlcad.com/images/head1.jpg

http://www.linuxfordevices.com/images/stories/datawind_aakash_ubislate7_ndtv.jpg

http://www.linuxfordevices.com/images/stories/datawind_aakash_ubislate7_ndtv2.jpg

[Bala (Karthik)]

Hope this is the right thread: Does anyone here use good audiophile quality headphones (Grado, Sennheiser HD, AKG etc)? Been reading reviews but a first-hand feedback would be helpful. Review la idhula pala models ku amplifier irundha thaan ella sound-galayum thulliyama kelappi vidum nu ellaam solraanga. Clear-cut-a oru opinion form panna kashtama irukku

Note: Death to earphones/ear-plugs, i'm talking about proper headphones

I bought an Audio-technica (noise-cancelling headphone) model last year. Its good but i believe there must be better models in the same brand/other brands

[satissh_r]

I bought an Audio-technica (noise-cancelling headphone) model last year. Its good but i believe there must be better models in the same brand/other brands

BK, Can you let me know which model you have? Is it ATH-M50? If yes, how good is it?

[Bala (Karthik)]

Will confirm the exact model later. It's good but i wouldn't say great. If noise-cancellation is enabled, there's more punch in the bass and the output overall but sometimes, depending on the song source, there's some jarring and loss of clarity.

Thulliyamaana reproduction is what i'm expecting, noise-cancelling is not all that relevant now)

[satissh_r]

Okay, thanks :) Clarity is what I'm longing for too... Most of the headphones/earphones I've tried have good bass but can be jittery when the song hits a high..

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

bala, sony style walkmans, headphones all outdated and i get best sound most times while using earphones

காதுக்குள்ள போய் ஒக்காந்துக்குது, காதை அடைச்சாப்ல இருக்கு, இதுவே எனக்கு பாதி noise cancelling பண்ணிடுது, காது அளவுக்கு ஏற்றார்போல் மாத்திக்கலாம்

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqR,!i4E6I(EnB4uBOiVdu,-+Q~~_35.JPG

btw, what kind of elevated experience one can expect with the super quality ones which you are talking about...like, did u hear any unheard sound of a raja song etc... i genererally thought these kind of hi quality ones are for professional recording purposes ...

[sathya_1979]

Sony Ericsson Mobile Phone Hands-free earphones :bow: Better than the ones supplied with MP3 Players.

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01387/jobs_mainn_1387938a.jpg

Steve Jobs tribute built from Mac parts, by apple fans

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

New 7 inch tablet from iBall - http://www.iballslide.com/
http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repository/getimage.dll?path=TOIBG/2011/10/11/23/Img/Ad0230411.png
Specs are decent. PRice is 14K
http://www.iballslide.com/images/news/preview4big.png

[rsubras]

iball la irunthu mouse and headphones rendum vaangirukken..both were not upto the mark.......had lots of problems..ithu eppadi irukkumo

btw sakala.......... you have told about DELL mobile. how about an Acer or HP?

and what do you think about Airtel's own Tablet (Beeetel Magiq)

http://www.rediff.com/getahead/slide-show/slide-show-1-gadgets-and-gaming-tablet-pcs-under-rs-20k-dont-miss/20111011.htm

[VENKIRAJA]

Got a new HDTV. Plasma.
I am now thinking between a PS3 and a HTPC set-up. Please help me figure out.
I watch about 3-4 movies a week. Gaming, not much except for party gaming with friends and some motion sensing games for the sister (will be a bonus). I personally play FIFA and NFS, nothing else.

Gaming, 3D, Move Exclusives. All fine. PS3 has a dedicated bluray drive (future-proof), plus can stream movies, I hear. How good is the USB/HDD playback? How versatile is the playback? (All audio/video codecs, till recent)

HTPCs can be upgraded in minimal costs and can work as a downloading rig too. But, how much will a low-end HTPC cost? (Barring the Display obviously!) It might include capacity for some gaming NFS HP2 and FIFA 07 or 08 will suffice. HDMI and the ability to hook it up with an existing 5.1. (iBall Booster speakers for PC. Has the typical 3.5mm jacks. 3 of them) Also, can it be hooked upto to a PS3?

[venkkiram]

Got a new HDTV. Plasma. may I know why you chosen Plasma over LCD and LED technologies? and how many inches the TV ?

[VENKIRAJA]

may I know why you chosen Plasma over LCD and LED technologies? and how many inches the TV ?

The viewing distance was small. 10' room, 8ft with the sofa or whatever in.
LCD pixelated too much and my budget didn't allow a LED purchase. Went with a 42" Plasma. Got it for 37k from eZone. LG. Almost the same price as on Flipkart. Satisfied with the Vibrant picture it offers. :D Much better than its LCD equivalent. And, I personally like it better than LED movie watching too. Agree its power-saving green-stuff and all that.. but Tamil bluray rips look a lot better in a LCD (proper distance) or even more dazzling in a Plasma. (This I found out only after buying it) :wink: I'm afraid about the Pixel burns when on Gaming and such. Adhu dhaan prachana.

[littlemaster1982]

HTPCs can be upgraded in minimal costs and can work as a downloading rig too. But, how much will a low-end HTPC cost? (Barring the Display obviously!) It might include capacity for some gaming NFS HP2 and FIFA 07 or 08 will suffice. HDMI and the ability to hook it up with an existing 5.1. (iBall Booster speakers for PC. Has the typical 3.5mm jacks. 3 of them) Also, can it be hooked upto to a PS3?

HTPC without gaming would set you back by at least 20K. Gaming HTPC with decent config would cost 25-30K. PS3 is your best bet, as of now.

[VENKIRAJA]

HTPC without gaming would set you back by at least 20K. Gaming HTPC with decent config would cost 25-30K. PS3 is your best bet, as of now.

Anybody with a PS3 here?
I absolutely have no idea regarding .mkv, .ogg, .mp4 playback with DTS sound or maybe some advanced codecs like x264 or h264. And, there are limitations on the HDD used. Only those 2.5" work and those which are 9 inches or less in the longer dimension. And 5.1 stumps me everytime.

Plus, the firmware confusion. I need a PS3 with a FW 3.55 or lesser to jailbreak it. Any PS I buy, if ships with a 3.60 FW, i cannot JB it :roll:

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

I am zero in gaming, that too, the gaming consoles connected to tv et all... almost 1 year ago i saw microsoft demo ing a conept where there is no joystick kinda hand terminal and u play the game via moving ur hands and the camera recognizes ur movement and takes as an input. is that tech, now available or still in labs?

Also read long ago that in some sony terminal, IBM's Cell CPU which is 8 core, is used. And that gaming console can act as part super computer, via grid computing, when connected to internet... sony, tried to lock down the device for hackers and hackers still came and publicly announced hack fest on those devices and it happenned too :wink: ippa enna nilavaram nu theriyala.

[littlemaster1982]

Sakala,

It's called Kinect in XBox 360 and Move in PS3. They are kind of add-ons for the regular consoles.

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

iball la irunthu mouse and headphones rendum vaangirukken..both were not upto the mark.......had lots of problems..ithu eppadi irukkumo

btw sakala.......... you have told about DELL mobile. how about an Acer or HP?

and what do you think about Airtel's own Tablet (Beeetel Magiq)

http://www.rediff.com/getahead/slide-show/slide-show-1-gadgets-and-gaming-tablet-pcs-under-rs-20k-dont-miss/20111011.htm
rsubras, u r aking about Acer and HP's tablet? becos HP not into android smartphones. Acer has some phones which didn't pick up at all.

As for as tablet, Acer Iconia 10 inch tablet is a decent buy. HP has washed its hand out of tablet business, due to zero sales. Recently it did a clearance by reducing the Touchpad price to just 100 dollars, few hubbers got it too!

Airtel's Magiq was initially announced with a 1 gg CPU but silently they pulled out that model and now selling a 800 Meg CPU. I dont know why! As of now, nothing in the link u gave is promising for me. May be this iBall tablet may be good, as it sports a real 1 Gig CPU( Texas Instruments Cortex A8) All these are 7 inch tabs. For 10 inches, (iPad is 9.7 inch) Motorola xoom and Asus Transformer is good, In India these tablets are costing 32K range. Same can be brought for half the price in US, especially during the upcoming holiday season.

1 month before, Staples US gave a $100 discount on all tablets and my friends brought a Motorola xoom(17K) and Dell Streak 7(10K).

If you have friends in US, and want to buy a good 7 inch tab, i strongly suggest Dell Streak 7. As for 10 inch tab, i strongly suggest Archos 101 G9 tablet which is 1.5 Gig dual core. Adn the price is much cheaper(18K) even without discount. Reviews are also good. This tab is available only in US

[villan007]

Bought Motorola Fire XT 2-3 days back.. Android :bow:

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

villain, enjoy! :D

go to android market and download talking tom cat. Then Everybody will like ur mobile :rotfl:

Use Google goggle app to solve sudoku instantly, and fool ur friends that u r an sudoku expert!

[VENKIRAJA]

I am zero in gaming, that too, the gaming consoles connected to tv et all... almost 1 year ago i saw microsoft demo ing a conept where there is no joystick kinda hand terminal and u play the game via moving ur hands and the camera recognizes ur movement and takes as an input. is that tech, now available or still in labs?

Nintendo was the pioneer. They introduced a Wii, for Wireless gaming (weird name, I know) which works like the Billi-Sooniya wand. We wave a joystick which functions as a Tennis racquet or a Cricket bat or whatever you wish to.
MS called it Kinect and announced it as an accesory to its Xbox360. Sony called it PS Move and sold it along with its PS3 consoles. Priced around 4500 for one controller, the web-cam (fancily, the eye) and some game discs its a steal. Works cool for Party and can be handy for exercising and all, too.
Most of them are sports - Golf, Beach Volleyball :p , Tennis, etc.
Its available widely since last Christmas, I believe.

[ajaybaskar]

Sumaal help..

How to temporarily deactivate an FB account. Say for 40 days?

[VENKIRAJA]

Sumaal help..

How to temporarily deactivate an FB account. Say for 40 days?

The small triangle near Home button>> Account Settings>>Security(Menu on the left)>>Deactivate.
However http://fb.com and you sign in, your account will be active again. (With a confirmation, of course) None of your account info will be visible till that time.

[rsubras]

rsubras, u r aking about Acer and HP's tablet? becos HP not into android smartphones. Acer has some phones which didn't pick up at all.

As for as tablet, Acer Iconia 10 inch tablet is a decent buy. HP has washed its hand out of tablet business, due to zero sales. Recently it did a clearance by reducing the Touchpad price to just 100 dollars, few hubbers got it too!

Airtel's Magiq was initially announced with a 1 gg CPU but silently they pulled out that model and now selling a 800 Meg CPU. I dont know why! As of now, nothing in the link u gave is promising for me. May be this iBall tablet may be good, as it sports a real 1 Gig CPU( Texas Instruments Cortex A8) All these are 7 inch tabs. For 10 inches, (iPad is 9.7 inch) Motorola xoom and Asus Transformer is good, In India these tablets are costing 32K range. Same can be brought for half the price in US, especially during the upcoming holiday season.

1 month before, Staples US gave a $100 discount on all tablets and my friends brought a Motorola xoom(17K) and Dell Streak 7(10K).

If you have friends in US, and want to buy a good 7 inch tab, i strongly suggest Dell Streak 7. As for 10 inch tab, i strongly suggest Archos 101 G9 tablet which is 1.5 Gig dual core. Adn the price is much cheaper(18K) even without discount. Reviews are also good. This tab is available only in US

Thanks Sakala..

Acer vs DELL I asked for android mobile.......

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

rsubras, Acer Android mobiles, as I already said, didn't take off at all. Its mostly a non starter. Cost is also high. THe biggest advantage these days, wrt smartphones is, you can look at complete specs, nook and corner and come to a decision. So based on that, you can nail down the best of the best specs with lowest available cost in market. The phones I am filtering and recommending are like that. At the same time I am also aware of the limitations. You cannot get everything. Even a 30K Samsung Galaxy S2 has some shortcomings and there are very less phones even if you pay above that price point. Of course, they too will have some shortcomings.

Coming to dell, I already suggested Dell XCD35 many times. Now that it has reduced to 8.7K its a steal! THere just is No phone in that price range which is as best as that, inspite of the shortcomings(camera, speaker, hd video etc) Other dell phones are not that cheap and there are superb alternatives at that price ranges. So, in short, expect XCD35, there is no phone to celebrate, from dell's range. The only other Android product i can suggest is Dell Streak 7 Tablet which is a nice one to buy at US, not here!

So, we can come to better conclusion if you decide your price range. Then Let me list the phones in that range, also the phones in slightly above and below ranges :)

[KV]

I recently learnt about a song detection app that apparently can fetch details of a song (from what I understood, say there's a song playing somewhere and one wants to know which one it is. Turn on this app and it'll pick up the sound, search and fetch details). If this really is the capability of the app, I must admit that I'm fully stumped and stunned. (I don't use a smart phone, so I have pretty much no idea of these apps anyway).
Can someone throw some light on this? How does the app really work? What is the logic that such an app can possibly use?

[Balaji.r]

Satisfied with the Vibrant picture it offers. :D Much better than its LCD equivalent. And, I personally like it better than LED movie watching too. Agree its power-saving green-stuff and all that.. but Tamil bluray rips look a lot better in a LCD (proper distance) or even more dazzling in a Plasma. (This I found out only after buying it)

I am using LED for more than a year and I watch tamil bluray rips or any other language rips in my LED. The clarity and viewing experience is much better than plasma. On the look of it, you wont find diff betw LCD and LED. But the sharpness and picture quality is too good in LED.

[VENKIRAJA]

Android Price-wise List-up:

Thought it would be nice to put up something (IMO, ofcourse) related to the Android line of phones. Was looking for one for my brother, ended up with getting the HTC Wildfire. Basically it sums up to two things - One the processor speed, upon which the fluidic UI and applications function. The cost, depends on the segments and of course the brands.

Lowest range (500-650 Mhz processors)
Only Generic brands available. Karbonn, Micromax and Spice are the contenders. About 6000 INR. No 3G.

Low-end: (INR 7-10k)
Will sport about the same processor speed. Only that they are reputed brands.
Galaxy Y is the new and retails at 7.5k!
HTC Wildfire is a best-seller. HTC Sense UI is a delight to use. Has 3G. Not much difference from LG Optimus One. 600 Mhz. Can be overclocked to 800 I think.

Mid-end (INR 10-15k)
Motorola Defy is my pick. Sturdy. Waterproof (!) 800 Mhz. Can be overclocked to 1 Ghz.
Galaxy Ace, for Samsung enthusiasts and HTC Wildfire S for those who prefer HTC's UI. About 13k.

High-End (15-20k)
Samsung Galaxy S I-9000 or SE Experia X10. Both are great. Around 17.5k.
Dell Venue is a neat option which would cost about 22k.

Top-End
No brainer. SGS II vs. HTC Sensation. 30k.

(P.S: Flipkart is a very safe option. Highly reccomended. Cheaper than Chennai's retail chains. If you want it cheapest, Letsbuy is an option. But, not as quick or reliable as Flipkart. No Hassles on both services, for me. They were the same. Just that Flipkart's packing was too good)

[VENKIRAJA]

I am using LED for more than a year and I watch tamil bluray rips or any other language rips in my LED. The clarity and viewing experience is much better than plasma. On the look of it, you wont find diff betw LCD and LED. But the sharpness and picture quality is too good in LED.

I mean, when the size of LED gets to around 50" or so, I find it annoying to see traces and lags. Plasma delivers some punch and vibrance. It was all IMO, I like it better. LED looks more closer to reality and Plasma was more close to the theatre experience. I like that aspect of Plasma's PQ. LEDs are the advanced technology, energy saving and better-looking for Games, etc. I agree. But somehow I'm not so into it.

[Balaji.r]

which ezone? the one in perungudi has decent range.

[VENKIRAJA]

which ezone? the one in perungudi has decent range.
I don't get you. I got mine in eZone, Valasaravakkam.
You mean the lags and traces in the bigger LEDs, in the display of showrooms? No, No. I just meant generally. No particular goods.

[Bala (Karthik)]

Got a new HDTV. Plasma.

Which brand/model?
When it comes to Picture quality, the widely held belief is that Plasma trumps LED. The main complaints against plasmas are image burn in and lesser half life (though manufacturers "claim" this is no longer an issue in the current models). And plasmas use up more energy

Had a Toshiba Regza (LCD) which was OK. Now, I've decided to go the plasma way - either Panasonic VT30 or Samsung PND8000 (42 inches). Picture quality-in sigarama ellaarum Pioneer Kuro-va solraanga (no longer available. Panasonic acquired Kuro technology). Next best-na indha rendu model pola irukku

P.S: Sony Bravia is crap (except the extremely expensive high end models). It's turning out to be the Saravana Bavan of television

[Bala (Karthik)]

but Tamil bluray rips look a lot better in a LCD (proper distance) or even more dazzling in a Plasma
Venki,
Didn't get you. Which is better?

[Balaji.r]

I don't get you. I got mine in eZone, Valasaravakkam.
You mean the lags and traces in the bigger LEDs, in the display of showrooms? No, No. I just meant generally. No particular goods.

perungudi showroom was huge. I meant that, nothing else.

[Balaji.r]

P.S: Sony Bravia is crap (except the extremely expensive high end models). It's turning out to be the Saravana Bavan of television

worst phlow`s. Sound quality is not that good, mostly bass effect. Even the picture quality isnt that great, true color is altered.

you cant plug and play hard disk. Only USB is supported that too only two model`s are supported. Samsung wins hands down.

[littlemaster1982]

Which brand/model?
When it comes to Picture quality, the widely held belief is that Plasma trumps LED. The main complaints against plasmas are image burn in and lesser half life (though manufacturers "claim" this is no longer an issue in the current models). And plasmas use up more energy

Had a Toshiba Regza (LCD) which was OK. Now, I've decided to go the plasma way - either Panasonic VT30 or Samsung PND8000 (42 inches). Picture quality-in sigarama ellaarum Pioneer Kuro-va solraanga (no longer available. Panasonic acquired Kuro technology). Next best-na indha rendu model pola irukku

P.S: Sony Bravia is crap (except the extremely expensive high end models). It's turning out to be the Saravana Bavan of television

Venkiraja has LG PJ350R plasma (I have the same too). As you have rightly observed Plasmas generally offer natural colours and smooth picture as opposed to LEDs. Pioneer Kuros are no longer in production, but there is a new range of LED tvs which carries the "Elite" tag and PQ of Pioneer Kuros. They are damn expensive, though.

Panasonic VT20/30 is the best available plasma now. Kannai moodittu vaangunga :D

[littlemaster1982]

Venki,
Didn't get you. Which is better?

If you watch TV programs more than movies, go for LED. If you mostly watch sports/movies, go for Plasma. Don't worry about burn-in, it's a thing of past.

[VENKIRAJA]

Which brand/model?
When it comes to Picture quality, the widely held belief is that Plasma trumps LED. The main complaints against plasmas are image burn in and lesser half life (though manufacturers "claim" this is no longer an issue in the current models). And plasmas use up more energy

For a Home theatre set-up.. say a movie everyday (at max), Plasma is the right choice.
For full-on usage, like Living room TVs with a set-top box or analog cables, LED is a better option. And for regular usage, I suggest don't go for >32" screen size. For HT setup a 42" is ideal. A 50" Plasma is dropdead gorgeous! :D Saves a lotta cash when compared to equivalent LEDs. For the minimal time we use, (for Movies alone, I mean) power consumption and everything is negligible.
Also, gaming is better in LEDs, no doubts!



Now, I've decided to go the plasma way - either Panasonic VT30 or Samsung PND8000 (42 inches).

Panasonic Viera has the best Plasmas right now. The next best thing is LG, and is cheaper than Viera models. If you're looking for 3D Plasma, LG has a 42" version for 40k (Not at all suggested, except you're a hardcore 3D gamer or an avid Sports TV watcher)



P.S: Sony Bravia is crap (except the extremely expensive high end models). It's turning out to be the Saravana Bavan of television
:notworthy: adhe adhe!

[littlemaster1982]

Also, gaming is better in LEDs, no doubts!

What about input lag in LEDs?

[VENKIRAJA]

What about input lag in LEDs?

Didn't observe keenly.
For classic PS3 gaming, I don't think there was any lag.
PS3 Move had a few problems, yes. I had to really wield it so very hard. கால் கை எல்லாம் செம்ம வலி!

[Bala (Karthik)]

LM, Venki
Nandri hai. Some more questions

I'm a passionate hater of gaming (*), so that's totally out of the equation. I don't want 3D either but the models i'm looking for come with 3D whether we like it or not

"Plasma is better for movies while LED is better for TV" - Why, how? Konjam vilakkavum.
Considering that we watch standard source most of the time compared to HD source, which is the better bet? Does standard source input (movies, sports) look better in Plasma?

LM - you said burn in is no longer a problem. How about PQ life? Any ideas?

At a store, the rep showed me a photo in a Sony model and then the same in the VT30. The Sony showed some detail in the background while in the VT30, it was too dim to be visible. I asked him if the settings were different and if that made the difference but he said the settings were the same. Ore conpees...


(*): Gaming - for the life of me, i can't understand why grown up men indulge in things like gaming, WWF etc. Comics, animation, cartoon etc are perfectly understandable and healthy but gaming???? Another extremely annoying thing is F1. It's not even a freakin sport. Waste of the petrol, waste of the discuss. Idhula Ferari fans, murari fans nu oru group. Absolutely pretentious. Ban all these, i say!

[littlemaster1982]

"Plasma is better for movies while LED is better for TV" - Why, how? Konjam vilakkavum.
Considering that we watch standard source most of the time compared to HD source, which is the better bet? Does standard source input (movies, sports) look better in Plasma?

LM - you said burn in is no longer a problem. How about PQ life? Any ideas?

At a store, the rep showed me a photo in a Sony model and then the same in the VT30. The Sony showed some detail in the background while in the VT30, it was too dim to be visible. I asked him if the settings were different and if that made the difference but he said the settings were the same. Ore conpees...

Plasmas offer high contrast ratio which is never equalled by a LCD/LED. In fact LED/LCD makers are trying hard to equal the PQ of a Plasma. LEDs have more brightness compared to a Plasma and that is what catches a consumer's attention. The colors in LED pop out of the screen and is quite unnatural from movie watching perspective. While watching a TV program, these things don't matter much. About life of Plasma TVs, latest Plasmas have half life of 1,00,000 hours after which the brightness becomes half. 1L hours is a lot :)

Reg. showroom test, you cannot judge a Plasma in a showroom because of too much of ambient light. Also, photos look better in LCD than a Plasma, but when it comes to movies Plasma trumps a LCD/LED more often than not.

Go for LCD/LED if you watch TV programs more than movies and if there is a light source in front of TV. Plasmas wouldn't be a good option in a brightly lit room.

[littlemaster1982]

Addendum: While Plasmas don't have burn-in issues like before, they need to be taken care in the first 100-200 hours. It is called break-in period and it is advisable to have contrast and brightness settings somewhere near 50% and not to watch TV channels for a long time.

[Dinesh84]

Planning to buy a mobile with Android OS and price ranging between 10K and 15K. Suggestion required :D

[Bala (Karthik)]

LEDs have more brightness compared to a Plasma and that is what catches a consumer's attention. The colors in LED pop out of the screen and is quite unnatural from movie watching perspective
That explains showroom reps going by this and recommending LEDs over plasma


About life of Plasma TVs, latest Plasmas have half life of 1,00,000 hours after which the brightness becomes half. 1L hours is a lot
From what i read, it seems like these claims are unrealistic. However, maybe even if not 1L hours, it is long enough not to matter


Addendum: While Plasmas don't have burn-in issues like before, they need to be taken care in the first 100-200 hours. It is called break-in period and it is advisable to have contrast and brightness settings somewhere near 50% and not to watch TV channels for a long time.
OK. Do you know if the THX setting has this or should we customize it brightness/contrast to 50%?

[littlemaster1982]

Motorola Defy (http://www.flipkart.com/mobiles/motorola/itmczcrzftgpkrfn?pid=mobcuxvyhjrtd5kz&_l=+E2KrXdqb36qlNSSCPaKtg--&_r=AuCjX5qGnikwNdJ_5l1dRA--&ref=7045a1d8-54af-412d-bfbb-6bbac5a18f8b) = Rs.15,400. There is a cash back offer of Rs.900, so it's well within your budget :)

Or get LG Optimus P500 (http://www.flipkart.com/mobiles/lg/itmcsvh96wtzzwmv?pid=mobcsvh96wtzzwmv&_l=AjkmoRBJTgPmOniOzE8EhQ--&_r=AuCjX5qGnikwNdJ_5l1dRA--&ref=7045a1d8-54af-412d-bfbb-6bbac5a18f8b) for 10K.

[littlemaster1982]

That explains showroom reps going by this and recommending LEDs over plasma

Also, profit margins are higher for LEDs. I'm yet to come across a salesman who recommends Plasma.


From what i read, it seems like these claims are unrealistic. However, maybe even if not 1L hours, it is long enough not to matter

Yes. 1L hours is a large number. Even if it is around 35K hours, it will last for around 10 years with 10 hours per day usage.


OK. Do you know if the THX setting has this or should we customize it brightness/contrast to 50%?

You can manually lower these settings. There are calibration settings available online which are quite helpful.

[Bala (Karthik)]

Planning to buy a mobile with Android OS and price ranging between 10K and 15K. Suggestion required :D
Sakala strongly recommends Dell XCD 35. He has written about it earlier in this thread

[satissh_r]

Motorola Defy (http://www.flipkart.com/mobiles/motorola/itmczcrzftgpkrfn?pid=mobcuxvyhjrtd5kz&_l=+E2KrXdqb36qlNSSCPaKtg--&_r=AuCjX5qGnikwNdJ_5l1dRA--&ref=7045a1d8-54af-412d-bfbb-6bbac5a18f8b) = Rs.15,400. There is a cash back offer of Rs.900, so it's well within your budget :)

Master and Dinesh, Motorola Defy+ is coming soon, it has Gingerbread 2.3 and 1 Ghz processor so if you are thinking about going for Defy, you might as well wait and check the price of this one...

[Bala (Karthik)]

Thanks LM

[littlemaster1982]

Master and Dinesh, Motorola Defy+ is coming soon, it has Gingerbread 2.3 and 1 Ghz processor so if you are thinking about going for Defy, you might as well wait and check the price of this one...

Good idea :thumbsup:

Bala,

:thumbsup:

[Dinesh84]

LM, Bala & Satish :ty: for response :D
Gingerbread.. hmm.. will wait till Deepavali..

[satissh_r]

Dinesh here is the spec for Defy +

http://www.flipkart.com/mobiles/motorola/itmd2wra4q2xymmy?pid=mobd2wr6mqfk4zpd&_l=a80NNlT3vC8jo9I7kHAt0Q--&_r=AuCjX5qGnikwNdJ_5l1dRA--&ref=28e35cd0-8d7b-4a0c-b652-d12656d485d5.

I'm planning to buy an android phone too and got a nice suggestion from Master in Samsung Galaxy S LCD I9003. Now I've narrowed it between 3 phones Defy +, I9003 and Sony Ericsson Neo V. Will wait till Defy + gets launched and then decide based on the price :)

[VENKIRAJA]

Planning to buy a mobile with Android OS and price ranging between 10K and 15K. Suggestion required :D

Motorola Defy (Costliest in the segment): Buy from flipkart 15.5k I think. Or Use coupons and get it for 14.5k from Letsbuy. Alert: Please ask for the Red lens camera. It gives you 720p video recording. If you get a Green Lens Defy, 720p Video recording ain't possible!
HTC Wildfire (Cheapest in the segment): Ditto. 10.25k in flipkart. Use coupons and buy it for 9k in Letsbuy.

Major difference is the Processor speed. 528 Mhz on HTC and 800 MHz on Motorola. Motorola is scratchproof and waterproof. Is bigger. Both have a 5 mpx Cam. If you're not secure with online shopping go to Croma any day (Please avoid Poorvika or Univercell)
:happy2: Good luck!

[VENKIRAJA]

I'm a passionate hater of gaming (*), so that's totally out of the equation. I don't want 3D either but the models i'm looking for come with 3D whether we like it or not
Puriyala. The PJ Series of LG Plasmas we got (Myself and LM) don't have the 3D annoyance. Panasonic also has the Sans-3D TVs which are better off than their sub-standard 3DTVs.

"Plasma is better for movies while LED is better for TV" - Why, how? Konjam vilakkavum.
As I said earlier, Plasma is closer to the theatre experience, while LED is closer to the naked eye. And, its kind of annoying to watch uber-contrasted, vibrant images of women crying and spying on each other for a long time. Plus, Image burn though is a thing of the past as per LM.. we have TV Logos and Set-top box company logos which are omnipresent. Say a cricket match continuously goes on for a day (or 5!), I for one am scared about the Image burn. I've noticed a few Plasmas with image burn of the respective connections logos like Airtel in a Vivek's showroom.
Innoru vishayam, Plasmas are 42" or bigger. If the living room-seating sizes aren't suitable its particularly not advised so that we constantly don't increase the dioptre in our eyes. If you're lookng for 32" or so, Plasma velaikkavadhu.

Considering that we watch standard source most of the time compared to HD source, which is the better bet? Does standard source input (movies, sports) look better in Plasma?
SD suits LEDs better. And, if you pick up any of the Samsung 5 Series LEDs, Media Playback is a pleasure. No hassles at all. Plays whatever you feed it in a USB. Personally, I find the image a weeny-bit grainy even after calibrating and everything on my Plasma, even when I watch HD stuff. Don't know why!

At a store, the rep showed me a photo in a Sony model and then the same in the VT30. The Sony showed some detail in the background while in the VT30, it was too dim to be visible. I asked him if the settings were different and if that made the difference but he said the settings were the same. Ore conpees...
No idea about this. AFAIK, photo viewing is a much simpler and cozier in a Viera, because we can directly plug Memory cards and read Raw images, etc. I believe the technology is a bit more advanced in Panasonic. And, Plasma's flexibility in adjusting the PQ is unmatched. Its almost an Image editor inside it. We can adjust the look and feel of any movie, better than any other TV, I am sure!


I(*): Gaming - for the life of me, i can't understand why grown up men indulge in things like gaming, WWF etc. Comics, animation, cartoon etc are perfectly understandable and healthy but gaming???? Another extremely annoying thing is F1. It's not even a freakin sport. Waste of the petrol, waste of the discuss. Idhula Ferari fans, murari fans nu oru group. Absolutely pretentious. Ban all these, i say!
:rotfl2: I don't follow F1. Its ridiculous.
Jokes apart, Gaming has come a real long way. I feel, its grown up along with me.
Dad used to take me to his office, during my Primary education times and I used to play DOS games, like Copter crash. We got a brick game and stuff. We moved on to theme parks with the Japan-Singapore modelled Virtual gaming -- With a Steering wheel and a Bike Handle, etc. Slowly, it evolved to a Video game using RGB output and IC cassettes. Mario, Tetris, etc. Contra, Cricket 97 and so on. Then it happened. Sega. Nintendo GamBoy. Sony PS1. It was magical. We were just entering teenage and the graphics were mindblowing. The PC got Windows XP, and we had all sorts of gaming parallel to this world. PS2 happened. Now PS3 has bluray/3D gaming. Its so much advanced. Its not the same stupid things a kid of my era used to play. It may seem way too exaggerating, but thats the truth! From the time I had played Arkonoid in a small hand-held device, playing Need For Speed Hot Pursuit with those 3D Glasses in Blur, its been quite a long, dramatic journey I'd say. And there are rumors already about Sony releasing a PS4 next year. Yeah, I know even my Dad doesn't care.

[wizzy]

B(K) If you are going to use your Plasma in a brightly lit living room then I would advise against it..Plasma are great for dedicated home theater systems and with TV manufactures investing heavily on LED now the choice is no brainier...with calibration LED tvs can be made to show better dark levels.

[villan007]

bluetooth file transfer is not enabled by default in gingerbread :hammer: ellathukum app vechukanum na epdi :evil:

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Indian Manufacturers are releasing compelling tablets day by day. While there is nothing to celebrate about 10 inch tablets, the 7 inch tablets are almost flooding. Followed by Olive, HCL Me Tablet, Reliance, Beetel(Airtel), iBall, HCL has released a new model - HCL Me Tablet X1 in the ME tablet line up. This is having much better spec and good pricing.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/personal-tech/gadgets-special/HCL-launches-tablet-Rs-10490/articleshow/10342450.cms

While this tablet is yet to reflect in hclstore.in (http://www.hclstore.in/pages/-Tablet-PCs-Handheld-Devices-HCL/pgid-35902.aspx), the corporate News Section (http://www.hclinfosystems.in/news223.htm) has good info on specs. (பல தளத்திலும் வெற்றி அனுபவம் பெற்ற கம்பெனியாயிருந்தாலும் எந்த விஷயத்தை எந்த பகுதியில் போடவேண்டும் என்பதில் இவர்களை பார்த்து தான் கற்றுக்கொள்ள வேண்டும் :rotfl3: )


The X1 is competitively priced at Rs. 10,490 and also enables an exclusive access to the ME App store which has over 10000 applications capturing the latest and the best android apps in the world for the X1 users. Powered by the Android OS 2.3, the light and portable ME Tablet is packed with special local applications, enabling a converged solution for mobile computing and entertainment needs with 34+ ready to use applications. The X1 offers an 800X480 Pixel Capacitive Screen, Cortex A 8, 1Ghz processor :clap: with high performance and low power CPU. The tablet comes with a 2 MP Camera and 512 MB storage capacity with an internal memory of 4GB expandable to 32GB. The internet experience on the tablet is something to look forward to with the 7” screen along with Full High Definition 1080 pixel video (playback) support. It has a strong 3500 mAH battery and one of the only products in the market with an option of data connectivity through USB Dongles. Also there will be Flash Support through Adobe 10.3.

The small minuses i see are display resolution and battery. Should have been 1024 x 800 & ~4500mAH, respectively. But still not bad. For the price 10.5K, this is the best option, as of today :lol: ( seeing the speed of tablet launhces :D ) Lets wait for reviews...

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

bluetooth file transfer is not enabled by default in gingerbread :hammer: ellathukum app vechukanum na epdi :evil: puriyalai, by default not enabled naa neenga enable pannida vendiyathu thane! Or else its toggling to off after every usage?!?

btw, neraya features, by default not enabled thaan! for ex, mobile 1st time switch on pannumbothu 3rd party apps kuda disabled thaan! without enabling that you cant download any app apart from google's! But still this is disabled to make the user aware that 3rd party apps are at user's risk.

[Nerd]

Waste of the petrol, waste of the discuss. Idhula Ferari fans, murari fans nu oru group. Absolutely pretentious. Ban all these, i say!
:rotfl:

[villan007]

puriyalai, by default not enabled naa neenga enable pannida vendiyathu thane! Or else its toggling to off after every usage?!?

btw, neraya features, by default not enabled thaan! for ex, mobile 1st time switch on pannumbothu 3rd party apps kuda disabled thaan! without enabling that you cant download any app apart from google's! But still this is disabled to make the user aware that 3rd party apps are at user's risk.

illa there is no option send files to other phones over bluetooth :? also is there a way to stop automatic app updates ?

[VENKIRAJA]

Sakala anne.. what happened to Notion Ink's Adam? Has it been released? When I checked it out online during my 4th sem or so, it was incredibly good :roll:

[Bala (Karthik)]

Thanks Venki and wizzy


Puriyala. The PJ Series of LG Plasmas we got (Myself and LM) don't have the 3D annoyance. Panasonic also has the Sans-3D TVs which are better off than their sub-standard 3DTVs.

If its plasma, i have narrowed it down to VT30 or PND8000 - rendume 3D



Plus, Image burn though is a thing of the past as per LM.. we have TV Logos and Set-top box company logos which are omnipresent. Say a cricket match continuously goes on for a day (or 5!), I for one am scared about the Image burn. I've noticed a few Plasmas with image burn of the respective connections logos like Airtel in a Vivek's showroom.
Innoru vishayam, Plasmas are 42" or bigger. If the living room-seating sizes aren't suitable its particularly not advised so that we constantly don't increase the dioptre in our eyes. If you're lookng for 32" or so, Plasma velaikkavadhu.

Good point. 42 inchi na ethana adi dhooram irukkanum?



SD suits LEDs better. And, if you pick up any of the Samsung 5 Series LEDs, Media Playback is a pleasure. No hassles at all. Plays whatever you feed it in a USB. Personally, I find the image a weeny-bit grainy even after calibrating and everything on my Plasma, even when I watch HD stuff. Don't know why!

Aahaa :(

Regarding the brightness of the room, that's something to be considered but that's something which can be altered, but PQ can't.

[littlemaster1982]

Good point. 42 inchi na ethana adi dhooram irukkanum?

8 to 10 feet should be ok. I'm watching a 50" from 10 feet and it is absolutely fine.

Reg. SD, try to demo TV channels in a plasma and decide. Ask the sales person to switch off the lights above TV.

[venkkiram]

I bought "Sony KDL-52NX800 52-inch 1080p 240Hz LED Edge-Lit LCD HDTV, Black" on last thanksgiving day at Sears for 1500$ after sale. It comes with Wi-Fi connectivity, As you people pointed out, the quality on TV shows (especially live HD Sports telecasting) is too good to experience. At the same time, Blu-ray DVD quality also top notch. Last week end we watched Dark Night in Blu-ray. Awesome experience. But watching non HD channels is simply worst. You would start counting the dots all over the screen when the program is not worth to watch. Not sure how Plasma TVs could give much better movie experience. I yet to watch movies on Plasma and compare. I didn't buy PS3 yet to experience games and so-far performance on Wii games is OK.

[raajarasigan]

http://www.rediff.com/getahead/slide-show/slide-show-1-gadgets-and-gaming-top-13-android-phones-between-rs-10000-and-rs-15000/20111014.htm

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

illa there is no option send files to other phones over bluetooth :? also is there a way to stop automatic app updates ?android market has been updated. when i go to settings, the 1st options itself is about updates. I have checked the box so that notifications and updated wont happen without user consent. Mine is 2.2 but i think Market settings shud be same for 2.3 etc... better re check Market settings :)

reg bluetooth thing also, i think there is no issue in 2.2. no idea aout 2.3

[Nerd]

Tamil unicode does not work by default in Android OS.. What do I have to do? Help plis.

But thats a fail :hammer:
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I saw a bunch of people (>20) waiting in a queue outside one of the smallest AT&T stores near my apartment when I drove to work this morning. And I thought this new 4S won't be great shakes. AT&T has also reported record breaking pre-orders :shock:

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

For typing in tamil, tamil visai is there but its very shabby. If you root the device(void warranty!) there are some paid apps in market, they work like google translitration, you type in english and press 'convert' button, it becomes tamil

For viewing websites with tamil fonts, like vikatan, thatstamil, there is no way except using opera browser.
(type about:config in ur Opera addressbar and enable bitmap fonts, that is, there is a last item in the menu - "Use Bitmap fonts for complex scripts", select 'Yes' for that )

[ajaybaskar]

Hope it helps Dinesh84 (http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_y_s5360-4117.php)

[rsubras]

I have zeroed in on Dell XCD 35 vs Nokia 500 Vs Motorola Fire

Please help :)

Sakala....... Dell XCD 35 ah lock pannidalama? bcoz i have almost m ade up my mind on that......... but Nokia 500 price range with more feature vanthirukku (9k)..enna onnu android illa...... Symbian OS....... android is the future nu ellorum solrathala konjam back adikkiraen

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

rsubras, just now saw ur post, give me some time. will post in half an hour... :)

[villan007]

Motorola Fire? the qwerty one?

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Rsubras,

delicate possision :lol:

I tried to compare all 3 mobiles, flipkart didnt have Nokia 500 at all!, gsmarena didnt allow to compare more than 2 mobiles at a time. at last, my fav site pdadb allowed it!

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=3054&id2=3046&id3=2692&id4=2707

As you hav brought Nokia in comparision, i get many questions. Today mobile is more than a mobile, its not just mobile phone but mobile computer. Apps are heart of smartphones. Nokia's Ovi store is not on high heels. So if u dont want hot new apps and want to use ur phone just like how it was used 5 years before, just limiting to calls sms songs video photo camera and thevery basic apps like calculater calender etc, then Nokia is OK, Otherwise we can eliminate it from comparision.

Actually there are other reasons for that, too. After u spend 9.5K, what u get is a phone with less battery capacity just 1100mAH, that too with a 1 GHz cpu battery will drain soon, and no front camera, no LED Flash for the rear 5MP Camera, and a small screen - 3.2" (compared to other both 3.5") and lower resolution than dell xcd35.

But some how, i am not finding a phone with the resolution of dell phone(800x480) even in 15K android phones. So nobody is interested in a resolution slightly higher than iPhone3?!? Ok, thats a decision you have to make... I suggest you go to some mobile shop and experience the resolution of dell phone.

Comparing btw Motorola fire and Dell XCD35, i find Motorola winning in some areas like 800MHz, good camera 5MP with LED Flash and also a front camera, battery capacity is higher(1540mHAh as compared with dell's 1250 mAH) So these are advantages.

But Dell wins in stunning display resolution and an untouchable price, just nobody gives such a good phone at this price, anywhere in the world, period.

I have added Samsung Galaxy S LCD I9003 (Midnight Black) in the pdadb list. Its retailing for 17.5K in flipkart. Somehow thats a better phone for the price and in case u r ready to increase ur budget u can consider this phone.

Now as a user of Dell i also should tell its minuses, right? The speaker volume is not very high though its not bad, and even the headphone sound is also not high, I have samsung metro which has the same volume as dell in speakerphone mode, but it will blast if u hear in headphones. I guess the sound amp in dell is not that powerful, and maybe wantedly kept so considering battery life. And you cannot play hd video of 1024p resolution, but anyways all youtube videos of common resolution plays well.

A small issue:- And, internal flash memory is slightly an issue with both the phones(512mb RAM is not an issue) . When you download apps, the internal mem 512mb flash will be full soon, and not all apps are movable to SD card, so y have to keep only important apps in internal mem. There is a solution to this. Root ur phone and u get access to move all apps to SD Card so that u will never face memory issue. But i dont reccomend that as it voids ur warranty( I have rooted :wink: ) But anyways this is not a big issue and the phone will not slowdown even if the internal flash is full. Another option is, keep the APK file of the apps with big size, in SD card. install them only when u need and then uninstall it. This way you dont need to root the phone.

So there i have said both good and bad, now you can make a choice :D

(Here is the flipkart comparision page, it doesn't have Nokia 500 - http://www.flipkart.com/mobiles/compare?ids=MOBDFJPAGFXZMNCH,MOBCTM5TKCZG6HTV,MOBC V6QCF9AQU7A4,MOBCVWAVYVZUYH5C )

[Bala (Karthik)]

Panasonic VT30 (42 inchi) Pottaachu Pottaachu

Thanks guys for your input

[VENKIRAJA]

Panasonic VT30 (42 inchi) Pottaachu Pottaachu

Thanks guys for your input

Gethu 'nne :cheer:
Is there a Normal 2D mode? Like switching off the 3D nuisance?

Evlo aachu?

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Without Dennis Ritchie, there would be no Jobs - ZDNet (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/without-dennis-ritchie-there-would-be-no-jobs/19020)
Dennis Ritchie dies, and just like the code he wrote, noone notices - Slashgear (http://www.slashgear.com/dennis-ritchie-dies-and-just-like-the-code-he-wrote-noone-notices-14188206/)
Was Dennis Ritchie more important than Steve Jobs? (http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/was-dennis-ritchie-more-important-than-steve-jobs/)
Thank You to Dennis Ritchie, Without Whom None of This Would Be Here - Popular Science (http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2011-10/thank-you-dennis-ritchie-without-whom-none-would-be-here)
We All Use Dennis Ritchie's Programs (http://www.informationweek.com/byte/news/personal-tech/desktop-os/231900877)
Dennis Ritchie: The shoulders Steve Jobs stood on - Wired Magazine (http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/14/tech/innovation/dennis-ritchie-obit-bell-labs/)

http://www.popsci.com/files/imagecache/article_image_large/articles/kd14.jpg

http://i.zdnet.com/blogs/dennis_ritchie5.jpg

http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Kr_c_prog_lang.jpeg

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

அனைவரும் படித்தே ஆகவேண்டிய ஒரு கட்டுரை - C மொழித் தந்தைக்கு ஒரு மாணவனின் அஞ்சலி (http://www.tamilpaper.net/?p=4492)


எண்ணங்களிலும் செயல்களிலும் ஊறிப்போயிருக்கும் இத்தொழில்நுட்பங்களின் ஆதிவடிவங்களை ஆக்கியவர் டென்னிஸ் ரிட்ச்சி – ஒன்று C மொழி; மற்றது யூனிக்ஸ் இயங்குதளம். இவைதவிர அவரது முக்கியமான ஆக்கம் என நான் கருதுவது அவரது புத்தகங்களை: The C Programming Language மற்றும் Unix Programmer’s Manual.

கொஞ்சம் நிதானமாக யோசித்துப் பார்த்தால் சமகாலத்தவர் எவரையும்விட தொழில்நுட்பத்தின்வழி நம் தினசரி வாழ்வின்மீது ஆகப்பெரிய பாதிப்பை எற்படுத்தியவர் என டென்னிஸ் ரிட்ச்சியையே சொல்லவேண்டியிருக்கிறது – ‘எவரையும்’ என்பது பில் கேட்ஸ், ஸ்டீவ் ஜாப்ஸ் இருவரையும் சேர்த்துத்தான்.


இன்றைய தேதியில் நாம் பயன்படுத்தும் எந்த மின்னணுச் சரக்கிலும் நேரடியாகவோ மறைமுகமாகவோ தவிர்க்கவே முடியாத*படி டென்னிஸ் ரிட்ச்சியின் தொழில்நுட்பம் ஒளிந்திருக்கிறது.

ஆனால் அவரது இறப்புச் செய்தி அவர் இறந்து மூன்று நாட்கள் கழித்து அவரது முன்னாள் பணிச்சகாவான ராப் பைக் என்பவர் தன் கூகுள் ப்ளஸ் பக்கத்தில் நேற்று அதிகாலை 6:32-க்கு பகிர்ந்து கொண்டதன் வாயிலாகவே வெளி உலகத்துக்கு வந்ததிருக்கிறது. அதிலும் அவரது மரணத்தேதி சரியாகக் குறிப்பிடப்படவில்லை.

நேற்று காலை 9 மணிவரை எந்த ஆங்கில வலைதளத்திலுமே இந்தச் செய்தி வெளியாகவில்லை.
காலை 10 மணிவரை விக்கிப்பீடியாவில் தகவல் பதியப்படவில்லை.
நேற்று மதியம் 2 மணி வரை பிபிசி போன்ற பிரபல செய்தி நிறுவனங்கள் இச்செய்தியை வெளியிடவில்லை.
இப்போதும்கூட ட்விட்டரில் ட்ரெண்டிங் ஆகவில்லை.

கணிமையின் வரலாற்றில் ஒரு முக்கியமான சகாப்தமான அவரைப் பற்றி அவர் இறந்தபின்னரே எழுத நேர்ந்தது குற்றவுணர்ச்சியை எழுப்புவதாகவே இருக்கிறது.

சி.சரவணகார்த்திகேயன் :clap: and thanks!

[VENKIRAJA]

CC: Littlemaster1982

Bluray players which can play MKV content as well as support my existing 5.1ch speakers (http://www.flipkart.com/browse/tv-video/video-players-20024?filter=type:Blu+Ray+Player%3E%3Eis_available :true%3E%3Ebrand:Philips&_l=OJXUbD6YJbawBzkgRa7DSQ--&_r=A61jASHwvm6JrIjCLDOMwQ--&ref=99f32922-6666-4906-9bc8-66fe7a034492)

What say? With the exception of gaming, which I believe can be allowed, cause its not a burning need. And the one for INR 5299 is tempting :happydance:

[Nerd]

For viewing websites with tamil fonts, like vikatan, thatstamil, there is no way except using opera browser. (type about:config in ur Opera addressbar and enable bitmap fonts, that is, there is a last item in the menu - "Use Bitmap fonts for complex scripts", select 'Yes' for that )
Thanks Sakala. Doesnt render quite smoothly. But the phone (Samsung Galaxy SII) is great, GREAT otherwise.

[Nerd]

SIRI periya thillaalangadi dhaan pola..

http://stuffsirisaid.com/ (http://stuffsirisaid.com/)

[wizzy]

CC: Littlemaster1982

Bluray players which can play MKV content as well as support my existing 5.1ch speakers (http://www.flipkart.com/browse/tv-video/video-players-20024?filter=type:Blu+Ray+Player%3E%3Eis_available :true%3E%3Ebrand:Philips&_l=OJXUbD6YJbawBzkgRa7DSQ--&_r=A61jASHwvm6JrIjCLDOMwQ--&ref=99f32922-6666-4906-9bc8-66fe7a034492)

What say? With the exception of gaming, which I believe can be allowed, cause its not a burning need. And the one for INR 5299 is tempting :happydance:

does it come with region free kit? if it does then this is a great vfm.

[littlemaster1982]

I checked the specs and it doesn't seem to be a region free player. If Venki is not going to import Bluray discs, this is not a deal breaker.

Venki,

Try to get a demo of this player in Croma or Ezone before buying :)

[littlemaster1982]

Bala,

:thumbsup: for the purchase. If you don't mind, vilai enna-nu solla mudiyuma? (Even a PM will do) :D

[Bala (Karthik)]

Venki/LM
SGD 2,299 (Plus Bluray player)

Venki
2D source is 2D by default but there is an option to convert it into 3D.3D source a 2D a paakkara option irukka nu therila...

[rsubras]

Rsubras,

delicate possision :lol:

I tried to compare all 3 mobiles, flipkart didnt have Nokia 500 at all!, gsmarena didnt allow to compare more than 2 mobiles at a time. at last, my fav site pdadb allowed it!

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=3054&id2=3046&id3=2692&id4=2707

As you hav brought Nokia in comparision, i get many questions. Today mobile is more than a mobile, its not just mobile phone but mobile computer. Apps are heart of smartphones. Nokia's Ovi store is not on high heels. So if u dont want hot new apps and want to use ur phone just like how it was used 5 years before, just limiting to calls sms songs video photo camera and thevery basic apps like calculater calender etc, then Nokia is OK, Otherwise we can eliminate it from comparision.

Actually there are other reasons for that, too. After u spend 9.5K, what u get is a phone with less battery capacity just 1100mAH, that too with a 1 GHz cpu battery will drain soon, and no front camera, no LED Flash for the rear 5MP Camera, and a small screen - 3.2" (compared to other both 3.5") and lower resolution than dell xcd35.

But some how, i am not finding a phone with the resolution of dell phone(800x480) even in 15K android phones. So nobody is interested in a resolution slightly higher than iPhone3?!? Ok, thats a decision you have to make... I suggest you go to some mobile shop and experience the resolution of dell phone.

Comparing btw Motorola fire and Dell XCD35, i find Motorola winning in some areas like 800MHz, good camera 5MP with LED Flash and also a front camera, battery capacity is higher(1540mHAh as compared with dell's 1250 mAH) So these are advantages.

But Dell wins in stunning display resolution and an untouchable price, just nobody gives such a good phone at this price, anywhere in the world, period.

I have added Samsung Galaxy S LCD I9003 (Midnight Black) in the pdadb list. Its retailing for 17.5K in flipkart. Somehow thats a better phone for the price and in case u r ready to increase ur budget u can consider this phone.

Now as a user of Dell i also should tell its minuses, right? The speaker volume is not very high though its not bad, and even the headphone sound is also not high, I have samsung metro which has the same volume as dell in speakerphone mode, but it will blast if u hear in headphones. I guess the sound amp in dell is not that powerful, and maybe wantedly kept so considering battery life. And you cannot play hd video of 1024p resolution, but anyways all youtube videos of common resolution plays well.

A small issue:- And, internal flash memory is slightly an issue with both the phones(512mb RAM is not an issue) . When you download apps, the internal mem 512mb flash will be full soon, and not all apps are movable to SD card, so y have to keep only important apps in internal mem. There is a solution to this. Root ur phone and u get access to move all apps to SD Card so that u will never face memory issue. But i dont reccomend that as it voids ur warranty( I have rooted :wink: ) But anyways this is not a big issue and the phone will not slowdown even if the internal flash is full. Another option is, keep the APK file of the apps with big size, in SD card. install them only when u need and then uninstall it. This way you dont need to root the phone.

So there i have said both good and bad, now you can make a choice :D

(Here is the flipkart comparision page, it doesn't have Nokia 500 - http://www.flipkart.com/mobiles/compare?ids=MOBDFJPAGFXZMNCH,MOBCTM5TKCZG6HTV,MOBC V6QCF9AQU7A4,MOBCVWAVYVZUYH5C )

so kind of you sakala......... after reading your thorough write up, i had DELL in my mind while going to the mobile shop but since it was not available at the UNIVERCEL where i went and also due to the some pre-sales talk, ended up buying Motorola FIRE (Qwerty version). Yet to experience its power :)

[Bala (Karthik)]

Sakala
Information kodown :clap:

[wizzy]

I checked the specs and it doesn't seem to be a region free player. If Venki is not going to import Bluray discs, this is not a deal breaker.

Venki,

Try to get a demo of this player in Croma or Ezone before buying :)

Lm, buying BD player w/o a region free kit doesn't make sense..major Bluray rental stores in India stock up region A discs and most of the discs sold in burma bazaar or any online store in India are cheap Chinese knockoffs of region C..only other option is to ship discs from Amazon UK which has great PQ/AQ and are cheaper than our online stores but most of them are region B :lol: best bet until disc prices comes down to DVD range is to buy a media/streaming players like WDTV/Xtreamer or a Kaiboer which retails at 4k to play bluray iso/720p/1080p mkvs and a whole lot of files.

[littlemaster1982]

Oh, thanks for the info. I was of the impression that region restrictions don't matter much if we buy/rent BR discs locally.

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Sakala what happened to Notion Ink's Adam Tablet? Has it been released? When I checked it out online during my 4th sem or so, it was incredibly good :roll:Venki, Notion Ink is the rare answer to those who worry that India doesn't do OEM product development. Though nothing is great innovation, its nice to see an group of IIM grads did something early in 2009 which all the giant OEMs lie Acer Motorola HP and other are doing only in 2011. Notion Ink Tablets ware released in 2011 beginning, its not doing very well and the tablet will work mainly for developers and hackers becos there is no good tech support like the normal OEMs. They are available for sale in flipkart. Price is not less than any other 10 inch tablets available in market.


Sakala
Information kodown :clap:Thanks Sir :D :D etho namma pozhappum ithula irukkurathaala konja nanjam theriyuthu :) ambuttuthen!


so kind of you sakala......... after reading your thorough write up, i had DELL in my mind while going to the mobile shop but since it was not available at the UNIVERCEL where i went and also due to the some pre-sales talk, ended up buying Motorola FIRE (Qwerty version). Yet to experience its power :) Rsubras, welcome to android world! the first app i would recommend is, talking cat tom. Install and run it, everyone will start liking ur phone :lol: :)

[kirukan]

Thanks Sakala. Doesnt render quite smoothly. But the phone (Samsung Galaxy SII) is great, GREAT otherwise.
you can also replace the DroidSansFallback.ttf(indic version) file if you have a rooted phone.As of now android supports only linear scripts so rendering will not be proper but its better than dabba...Lemme know if you want the font file...

[VENKIRAJA]

I checked the specs and it doesn't seem to be a region free player. If Venki is not going to import Bluray discs, this is not a deal breaker.

Venki,

Try to get a demo of this player in Croma or Ezone before buying
Lm, buying BD player w/o a region free kit doesn't make sense..major Bluray rental stores in India stock up region A discs and most of the discs sold in burma bazaar or any online store in India are cheap Chinese knockoffs of region C..only other option is to ship discs from Amazon UK which has great PQ/AQ and are cheaper than our online stores but most of them are region B :lol: best bet until disc prices comes down to DVD range is to buy a media/streaming players like WDTV/Xtreamer or a Kaiboer which retails at 4k to play bluray iso/720p/1080p mkvs and a whole lot of files.
Primarily, I want it to go in with my existing Analog 5.1 ch speakers. Media Players don't allow sound transmission via their hardware. They simply send both Audio/Video through HDMI. TVs cannot output 5.1 ch surround sound. It can only give stereo. So, this is the only way out in case I want to retain all my setup. Correct me if I'm wrong :roll:

[wizzy]

Media players don't have DACs nor the Philips Bluray player to process sound..Bluray players with DACs would cost 15-20k and they come with Analog connections...how have you connected the speakers in your current setup? is it part of a HTIB?
if you have a HTIB you can connect its coxial to your streaming/Philips player for 5.1 and then connect the HDMI from the player to your TV for the picture.
with the current Bluray disc prices most of the time you will be playing demo discs and standalone players aren't meant to play d/w mkvs due to profile mismatches.

[Nerd]

you can also replace the DroidSansFallback.ttf(indic version) file if you have a rooted phone.As of now android supports only linear scripts so rendering will not be proper but its better than dabba...Lemme know if you want the font file...
Thanks bro, but I don't want to root the phone, at least yet. That is my wife's and I have an iPhone 4 which reads Tamil very well.

[Bala (Karthik)]

Nerd
Did you upgrade to IOS 5 yet? My colleagues say they have lost their contacts/data. Good that i didn't try it
:idhula-sun-tv-varuma:

[VENKIRAJA]

Rsubras, welcome to android world! the first app i would recommend is, talking cat tom. Install and run it, everyone will start liking ur phone :lol: :)

Speaking of Tom, Please listen to this (http://soundcloud.com/venkateshkumarvel/cross-talk-1).
P.S: Sound is not as clear as the classic uploader's.

[Nerd]

NerdDid you upgrade to IOS 5 yet? My colleagues say they have lost their contacts/data. Good that i didn't try it :idhula-sun-tv-varuma:Illeeng. It took me more than 6 months to upgrate by 3GS to iOS 4.0. I dont even what new features are there in iOS 5. :Enna man office nerathula TV paathuttu irukka - Sir idhu computer sir: :oops:

[vithagan]

SIRI periya thillaalangadi dhaan pola..

http://stuffsirisaid.com/ (http://stuffsirisaid.com/)

There is a free app "Vlingo" in Android market place similar to siri.. tried few instructions it works fine.

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

No dude, Siri is much more. Its 'Siri'ous attempt in AI. see this video, Vlingo and similar voice apps in android don't do that

[Nerd]

Yes, Siri seems to be really good. There are a bunch (yes, seriously, there were three) of Voice command applications shipped with my SII and they do the job, but not even 20% of what Siri could do. And I guess none of the android apps can actually 'talk' back.

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Doing just one small thing, but that one thing will be main attraction - thats something apple is an expert of. Google, at one side got tremendous benefit of making Android open source, it attracted lot of developers. But even after getting good profits out of OEM sales, still google is too careless in furthering the platform. Google let that like linux, where only open source enthusiasts nurtured the OS further. Added to that, the bugs and fragmentation. becos of this, even if google wanted, it cannot implement an high CPU intensive AI app like Siri. That would need dual core CPU and google cannot force all android phone owners to go in ONLY for dual core.

Added to that, the support ecosystem for android devices is horrible. Even in US, android owners doesn't know whom to contact in case of technical problems - Google? or carrier? or OEM? In reality none of them offers good support. Android may reach only to tech youth and seniors wont even touch android. Now imagine how good the iPhone 3GS sales will be in US, there its free! only the talktime charges.

These are the ugly things about android.

[vithagan]

Yes, Siri seems to be really good. There are a bunch (yes, seriously, there were three) of Voice command applications shipped with my SII and they do the job, but not even 20% of what Siri could do. And I guess none of the android apps can actually 'talk' back.

Okay.. Good to know.

Is Siri the 4S feature or iOS5 feature?

[Nerd]

iOS 5.0 la irundhaa neraiya pEr 4S vaangave maattaainga.. Its exclusive to 4S.

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

3 interesting tech news

Analytics in 40 years: Machines will kick human managers to the curb (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/analytics-in-40-years-machines-will-kick-human-managers-to-the-curb/61092?tag=nl.e539)
Chitti as your manager! Cheating the manager will become impossible :lol:

Mobile, big data, social dominate Gartner's top tech trends for 2012 (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/mobile-big-data-social-dominate-gartners-top-tech-trends-for-2012/60991)

3D printers: Disruptive to business? (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/3d-printers-disruptive-to-business/61192?tag=nl.e539)
You can print whatever you want, just like u print letters! :D A Manufacturing facility in your home

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Google has released Android 4.0. biggest highlight is the tablet and phone version of OS is fused into same. This means, hereafter, there is no difference btw fone and tablet apps, all are same. That is good news for tablet users.

Also Indic font support is added (http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-4.0.html) so that default android browser itself is enuf to view tamil webpages.

Support for Indic fonts (Devanagari, Bengali, and Tamil, including the complex character support needed for combining glyphs) in WebView and the built-in Browser

Also, 2D Hardware Acceleration is enabled so that browsing will be smooth. Even tamil font loading will be smooth.

That is only for viewing within browser. Typing, and displaying tamil outside browser etc, is still not enabled. But Hindi is added :evil: You can just swipe the space bar and the keypad changes to hindi.

But these benefits are ONLY for those who are gonna buy Android 4.0 phones/tablets :evil: Others have to wait for Cyanogenmod :wink:

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

http://androidos.in/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/comparison_nexus.png

[vithagan]

For Android users

Tapatalk forum app is free now thorugh Getjar.( usually $2.99)

http://www.getjar.com/mobile/237628/tapatalk-for-lg-optimus-2x/?ref=0&lvt=1319209936&sid=ktxnsknagw6fud80&c=9169r340h1tnpej41B&lang=en

[satissh_r]

Ordered my first Android finally :D http://www.flipkart.com/mobiles/sony-ericsson/itmd2krpeuhn7nth?pid=mobd2pyzdkcheyaf

Would be grateful id you could suggest some mandatory Apps, thanks in advance :)

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

satissh_r, welcome to Android :)

see this list - http://www.appbrain.com/user/vijeeth/recommended

[satissh_r]

satissh_r, welcome to Android :)

see this list - http://www.appbrain.com/user/vijeeth/recommended

Sakala :thumbsup: Will ask more doubts soon :noteeth:

[VENKIRAJA]

Sakala Anne, How come Samsung offers Galaxy-Y.. a 830 MHz phone for 7k?!

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Venkiraja anne, what will one do with a small 3" display with low res(240 x 320) and low mem(180 mb)?

Display is costliest part in smartphones and lower the display, even small capacity battery is enuf. So that low cost is possible! If your budget is strictly 7K and u r ok with above specs then u can make good use of the high speed cpu.

[Dinesh84]

Another comparison of iPhone 4S vs. Samsung Galaxy S II

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw&feature=related

[VENKIRAJA]

Venkiraja anne, what will one do with a small 3" display with low res(240 x 320) and low mem(180 mb)?

Display is costliest part in smartphones and lower the display, even small capacity battery is enuf. So that low cost is possible! If your budget is strictly 7K and u r ok with above specs then u can make good use of the high speed cpu.

Didn't see the low-res display :oops:
Low Memory.. Can't we install apps on the SDC? (Move everything except the system files) S60-laye pannalame :roll:

2mpX cam is not a problem. Same with Video shooting blah blah!
P.S: Anne, was out of respect only. :yessir:

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Venki, Android supports moving apps to SDC from 2.1 itself but handful of developers are lazy to enable that feature! That means, when developers are building and packing an app to upload in market, they shud mention in compile time itself to enable 'moving to SDC' feature. THis is not enabled by default, and very imp.apps like Gmail, Maps etc cannot be moved to SDc.

But What is the need for a Goundamani dialogs app (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.byminerva.soundboard.goundamani) and Vadivelu Ringtones App (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.uk.vadivelu.ringtones) to run in critical phone memory?!? Becos of this, rare phone memis wasted.

If you root the phone then you can move even the stock apps like Gmail Maps etc. But most of us doesn't do this! So I download the APK of some apps and install them only when needed and then uninstall it. Apps installing automatically in SDC and apps movable to SDC, no problem, they will happily stay in SD Card.

So, to answer ur question, Yes, (most) apps are movable to Sd Card!


(But ippadi oru phone vaangi kastappadurathai vida, extra 1.4K pottu Dell XCD35 vaangidalaam. and if you agree to root the phone, you can run the 600Meg CPU to 1 Gig!)

[VENKIRAJA]

But ippadi oru phone vaangi kastappadurathai vida, extra 1.4K pottu Dell XCD35 vaangidalaam. and if you agree to root the phone, you can run the 600Meg CPU to 1 Gig!
XCD35-la internal memory avlo jaasthi illaye.. 200 mb!
Agree.. Display resolution is gorgeous! :D

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Both flash and ram is 512 mb. While there r no issues with ram, usable flash is ~ 200mb. Thats not high but somewhat manageable. There r workarounds as i mentioned perviously. Defenitly itw not a showstopper.

[sathya_1979]

Need advice, suggestions and inputs for buying a Digicam - Budget $200 to 300.

[AravindMano]

sathya_1979, when I was on the lookout for a new cam, a few friends strongly recommended this site (http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/recommended-cameras.htm#pocket) and it's suggestions. You could check if that helps you.

[sathya_1979]

Thanks Aravind. will check

[venkkiram]

சத்யா... கேமரா உங்களுக்கா? இல்லை அன்பளிப்பாக யாருக்காக கொடுக்கவா? உங்களுக்கு என்றால் Digital SLR வாங்க முனையுங்களேன். ஏனெனில் இதுபோல இருநூறு, முந்நூறு டாலர்களில் வாங்கிப் பழகும் போது, ஒரு சில வருடங்களிலேயே Digital SLR வாங்க ஆசைப்படுவீர்கள். அதை இப்போதே ஒரே சந்தர்ப்பத்தில் அடைந்து விடுங்கள். புகைப்படக் கலையில் இப்போதிருந்தே உங்களது ஈடுபாட்டை துவங்கி, வெகு சீக்கிரமாகவே குறைந்த பட்ச நிபுணத்துவம் அடைந்து விடலாம். By the way, are you planning to buy during thanks giving sale?

[sathya_1979]

I am interested in Photography Venki (oNNiyum theriyaadhu, adhu vEra vishayam :) ). Ya, planning to buy before Nov end this year, as I have couple of trips lined up in Dec. Thanks, will search for SLR as well. One of my friends who is an expert in wild life photography had suggested DSLR. So, need to check it out. Thanks sir!

[littlemaster1982]

Sathya,

Start with an advanced point and shoot camera instead of buying a DSLR. Like this one (http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-DMC-FZ40-Digital-Stabilized-3-0-Inch/dp/B003WJR694/ref=sr_1_2?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1319713488&sr=1-2).

[Benny Lava]

Need advice, suggestions and inputs for buying a Digicam - Budget $200 to 300.

Sathya, I bought a Nikon D3100 earlier this year. It is an excellent camera at an affordable price. But LM also has a point, I haven't used it as much as I would have liked to. For quick snaps, point and shoot cameras are the best, SLR's are kinda bulky to operate.

If you want a compromise between both (or in other words best of both worlds), you can go for mirrorless SLR camera. It is a still developing market but the reviews I read have been positive. One of my colleague got a Sony camera and he liked it very much.

SLR is best when you are really dedicated to taking pictures or keen on learning photography. The problem with me was I was both keen and lazy at the same time, so I ended up buying a SLR and not using it. :(

[Benny Lava]

Another comparison of iPhone 4S vs. Samsung Galaxy S II

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw&feature=related

I performed a similar crash test on my 3GS. As you can see, 3GS didn't seem to appreciate it much. :(

Time to get a new phone.

[VENKIRAJA]

I am interested in Photography Venki (oNNiyum theriyaadhu, adhu vEra vishayam :) ). Ya, planning to buy before Nov end this year, as I have couple of trips lined up in Dec. Thanks, will search for SLR as well. One of my friends who is an expert in wild life photography had suggested DSLR. So, need to check it out. Thanks sir!

LM has a point. The Semi-SLR cameras, as they are fondly called are a better bet.
Major plus point being HD video capability. Also, less of bulk.
Also live view, comes with most Beginner-level SLRs, not in the classic ones like D70 or Canon Rebel versions.
Apart from that, they have a multipurpose lens with a good range. Instead of a kit-lens or maybe even another telephoto lens could possibly offer in an SLR. Out-of-the-box, these semi-SLRs can give you a greater capability to shoot.

Panasonic Lumix has a Z series. They are the best in the class.
Nikon P500 and Canon Powershot G are other options.
In Venkkiram's line of thought, if you think on buying a SLR if you get into the rage, maybe you can go for inexpensive solution Kodak Z series cameras. They retail around 10k INR.

Happy shooting! :wink:

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

For those interested to get into photography, those already a pro, this site will be interesting, Tons of Info, fundas and tuts!

PiT Photography in Tamil தமிழில் புகைப்படக்கலை (http://photography-in-tamil.blogspot.com/)

Though most are written keeping a DSLR in mind, some tricks will work in semi-SLRs too

[VENKIRAJA]

For those interested to get into photography, those already a pro, this site will be interesting, Tons of Info, fundas and tuts!

PiT Photography in Tamil தமிழில் புகைப்படக்கலை (http://photography-in-tamil.blogspot.com/)

Though most are written keeping a DSLR in mind, some tricks will work in semi-SLRs too
:exactly:
They'll work with P&S also. Their photo-editing tutorials using GIMP are valuable.

[sathya_1979]

Sakala :ty: Thanks for the great link!

[sathya_1979]

Ok, final call - Panasonic Lumix FZ40 or Sony HX100V or Canon SX30IS? I have added all these 3 along with 16GB card + battery packs. Based on the inputs will decide which one to go with

[rsubras]

Motorola Fire - Qwerty version

I have some complaints.... ppl who have solution please help..otherwise would have to go to service center :)

1. Battery life super nu sonnanga reviews la laam... but the battery life sucks........ naal full ah charge panninalum, the battery level keeps on decreasing....... Display ku than niraya power poguthu nu (43%) stats kaamichuthu....so reduced the brightness..still not much........ i am an avid net user.... is that a reason for this high battery consumption?

2. mobile occasionally (sometimes often) gets restarted during calls.....

3. mobile use panna aarambicha kaalathularnthu I was a sony ericsson user (T230, K750i, W890i, J20i [Hazel]), so ithula sila things konjam different ah irukku enakku....... Have some basic doubts

a. how to create/edit user profiles?
b. how to set up speed dialling?
c. how to create custom words (for dictionary)
d. select multiple songs for adding to playlist
e. keyboard shortcut for selecting words (while composing messages etc.,)



then how to enable the virtual keyboard?

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

1. Batt life - a.always keep display to lowest brightness. b.Download this app - SuperBox and go to Task Killer & kill the unused tasks. Try some apps like battery juice etc

2. Customer support

3.
a. No idea of profiles, but what are u trying to do with profiles etc. In Android, There is nothing like profiles in Nokia where u can set up the silent mode, vibration etc. If you want to keep personal data, there are apps which allow to keep passwords.

b. No Speed dial, instead you can keep icons of ur fav contacts on screen. one touch will dial them. for that, Long press the screen and you will get a menu, select "Shortcut" and select "Direct Dial" it will ask you to chose one contact. Likewise you select as many contacts till there is space in screen.

c. no idea! google aandavar!

d. the music apps which comes with phone is very basic. get some player app from market

e. selecting means? hilighting?!? "longpress" in the text box, u will get a menu.

virtual keyboard - u dont need to enable and all! suppose in web browser, open google, just touch the search box, keypad will pop up. press somewhere or back button, it will hide

[rsubras]

No idea of profiles, but what are u trying to do with profiles etc. In Android, There is nothing like profiles in Nokia where u can set up the silent mode, vibration etc. If you want to keep personal data, there are apps which allow to keep passwords.

Profiles for customizing the screen brightness (out in the sun pona athiga brightness, inside home / office less brightness etc.,), call volume, customizing vibration etc.,


No Speed dial, instead you can keep icons of ur fav contacts on screen. one touch will dial them. for that, Long press the screen and you will get a menu, select "Shortcut" and select "Direct Dial" it will ask you to chose one contact

ithu naan vachen..but problem is theriyama touch pannale call poiduthu...... and i could not find a shortcut key to disconnect the call other than screen touch...s


e. selecting means? hilighting?!? "longpress" in the text box, u will get a menu.

long press all fine..but athu tough ah irukkuthu..... correct ah textbox ah select panni athula long press panni highlight kondu vara vaikka......... like in PC if there is a shortcut key for this it would be great :)


aaga koodi, android phone is a hi-fi (or wi-fi) tech gadget that additionally has some basic phoning capabilities avlothan...... mathabadi normal mobile phone features ithula ethirpaarka mudiyaathu nu solreenga :) rightuu...i was only expecting if there are some android apps in the market that could help me achieve these things

[hamid]

LM/Sakala/others..

Sony KDL-32EX720 Vs Samsung UA32D6000SR..

ethu vaangalaam?
both are of same price... [3D, LED, 32"] seems same features..

[littlemaster1982]

Did you happen to see them in showroom? Buy whichever looks good to your eyes. Samsung is better, if you ask me.

[hamid]

LM,

I did have a look.. wasnt able to differentiate much.. thats why I ask you guys to give expert opinion :noteeth:

[littlemaster1982]

I would recommend Samsung :thumbsup:

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

RS,

i dont think android has automatic brightness sensor. maybe ur model may support. kindly check market if any apps are there..

reg the direct dial, i always keep them in the last screen so that i dont touch them accidentally.Another option is, keep a folder for this and keep the shortcuts inside that! it seems some phones (HTC Sense, Samsung Captivate and Vibrant, Motorola Droid X) have the speed dial number options u ask for - http://www.androidcentral.com/adding-numbers-speed-dial

LM, i am not a fan of android phone, i use that mainly for apps, messaging and email. If you buy a high end device you may have more comfort. anyways, Android apps makes it a powerful mini computer cum communication device. If I buy a device like Samsung Galaxy Note, which is a 5.3 inch smartphone, i will use that whole day for both calls and computing. it will partially replace my laptop!

[littlemaster1982]

Err..Sakala, I was recommending Samsung TV to Hamid :)

[rsubras]

Thanks Sakala...

probably you might want to edit your post one more time to edit your addressee :)

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

:lol:

LM & RS, rendu perume unga thalaiver padathai pottirukkeenga, so thappu en mela illai :wink:

hamid, wrt LCD TV matters, naan "ithula Sun Tv varuma" case thaan! so i divert the call to Bala(Karthik) and few others who discussed, i think one hubber (Venkiraja ? ) brought some LCD TV based on opinions discussed here.

[littlemaster1982]

wrt LCD TV matters, naan "ithula Sun Tv varuma" case thaan! so i divert the call to Bala(Karthik) and few others who discussed, i think one hubber (Venkiraja ? ) brought some LCD TV based on opinions discussed here.

Ella TV-laiyume Sun TV varum :lol: Jokes apart, Venkiraja and Bala (K) bought plasmas. Venkkiram has a Sony LED, but that's a top end model. Hamid solra model top end illainnu ninaikkiren.

[hamid]

LM/Sakala.. :( anyway thanks for the responses.. :)

That discussion if I remember correctly was about which one is better.. LED or palsma.. I have decided for LED (with 3D).. ithula ethu betternu ketten...

[hamid]

Ella TV-laiyume Sun TV varum :lol: Jokes apart, Venkiraja and Bala (K) bought plasmas. Venkkiram has a Sony LED, but that's a top end model. Hamid solra model top end illainnu ninaikkiren.

:lol:

Yes LM. it is not the top end.. it is EX720 series..

[littlemaster1982]

Samsung 6 series got good reviews. I saw a 5 series LED and it was good. 6 series should be definitely better. Sony LED vaangaradha irundha HX series vaangunga.

[villan007]

Rsubras, try disabling "always connect to mobile data" option in the mobile networks menu.. It has helped me to increase my battery life for upto 2 days... but the disadvantage push applications will not work and auto brightness is fine with 2.3 manual brightness will only drain your battery further

[villan007]

and i could not find a shortcut key to disconnect the call other than screen touch...s



Setting<Accesebility<"press Cancel'<Check power button ends call option

[rsubras]

Setting<Accesebility<"press Cancel'<Check power button ends call option

Thanks......for all the 3 of your tips :)