Writer/Director - Christopher Nolan

[kid-glove]

Who is this? Hardy?

Yes. As Bane.

[kid-glove]

One more:
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3974/empirebanesubscribers.jpg

[m_karthik]

Anyone watching "Person of Interest" TV Series?? Created by Jonathan Nolan.. Brother of Chris Nolan and Cowriter of his films..
Superbly written episodes and very much engaging

[kid-glove]

Is it? Sid_316 said it's 'OK'.

[ajithfederer]

Plot Outline padicha "Wanted" ulta madhiri irukku :lol:

[m_karthik]

May be I am overlooking as it has a 'Nolan' :) Give a try for one or two episodes..

[Sid_316]

Is it? Sid_316 said it's 'OK'.

Nothing great or exceptional.. Stopped watching it. Maybe later

[m_karthik]

A Six Minute IMAX Prologue of The Dark Knight Rises released with MI:4 - Poor Video Grab

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/268894/20111217/dark-knight-rises-leaked-prologue-video-clip.htm

[VENKIRAJA]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/425825_267211206693830_263630030385281_617130_1624 600377_n.jpg

[ajaybaskar]

The names of characters in Inception: [D]om, [R]obert, [E]ames, [A]rthur, [M]al, [S]aito. = DREAMS

[sathya_1979]

Booked TDKR FDFS - Thursday Midnight Show :redjump:
Friday and Saturday in IMAX :redjump: :bluejump:

[directhit]

me the friday midnight show :redjump: :bluejump:

[P_R]

The names of characters in Inception: [D]om, [R]obert, [E]ames, [A]rthur, [M]al, [S]aito. = DREAMS Oh!

btb eppo booking open aagum.

[littlemaster1982]

Sathyam will start their bookings on Wednesday. AGS, PVR ellam Thursday-nudhan ninaikkiren. Planning to watch in AGS Navalur 8-)

[P_R]

புதங்கிழமை காலைல பல்தேய்ச்சிட்டு உக்காந்துரவேண்டியதுதான்.
நோலன் - கிங் ஆஃப் ஓப்பனிங்!

[kid-glove]

Planning to give this one a skip..

[groucho070]

Planning to give this one a skip..+1 possibly, getting less and less excited over the time...

[P_R]

Planning to give this one a skip..
bleddy pandithar

[equanimus]

Planning to give this one a skip..Ha ha ha! (You probably meant it seriously, k-g, but it was very funny to see your comment following many excited comments on the film.) As for me, though not a very big fan of Nolan, ஒரு மாதிரி டயம் ஒதுக்கி பாத்துரணும்.

[ajaybaskar]

Most theatres will have the booking started on wednesday.

[Bala (Karthik)]

நோலன் - கிங் ஆஃப் ஓப்பனிங்!
:lol:

[Bala (Karthik)]

Planning to give this one a skip..
Sabaash if you are serious :clap: Bloody claustrophobic film.
Anyway, i won't actually skip it. Appadi enna thayiru irukku nu paathuravendiyadhu :mrgreen:

[kid-glove]

இந்த ஆண்டுக்கான ஆஸ்கரில் TDKR பின்வரும் பிரிவுகளில் பரிசு பெறும் என்று எதிர்பார்க்கிறேன்.

ஒளிப்பதிவு: Wally Pfister.

நடிப்பு: Tom Hardy

சிறந்த இசை: Hans Zimmer

மற்றும் சிறந்த படம், சிறந்த திரைக்கதை.


Even Charu Nivedita said so.

[wizzy]

Sennai badly needs a Imax theatre..even stingy Gujjus got one :neutral:

[groucho070]

Even Charu Nivedita said so.
:lol:

[P_R]

Sabaash if you are serious :clap:
Whoy yA?
I yam: pArkkAmayE oru padaththai diss paNRadhu thappu
Venkiraja: ayyA enna sonneenga?


Bloody claustrophobic film.
idhellAm oru kaaraNamA??

reNdu bulpu, thottukira reNdu serial bulpu pOttu pragaasama paarunga.

[Balaji.r]

Whoy yA?
I yam: pArkkAmayE oru padaththai diss paNRadhu thappu
Venkiraja: ayyA enna sonneenga?

.

:lol:

[Arvind Srinivasan]

Sennai badly needs a Imax theatre..even stingy Gujjus got one :neutral:

Heard Satyam was planning to get one ages ago...

[Sid_316]

bleddy pandithar

+1 :twisted:

[Nerd]

இந்த ஆண்டுக்கான ஆஸ்கரில் TDKR பின்வரும் பிரிவுகளில் பரிசு பெறும் என்று எதிர்பார்க்கிறேன்.

ஒளிப்பதிவு: Wally Pfister.

நடிப்பு: Tom Hardy

சிறந்த இசை: Hans Zimmer

மற்றும் சிறந்த படம், சிறந்த திரைக்கதை.


Even Charu Nivedita said so.

Hi Venkkiram.

[Nerd]

Planning to watch after 2 months. TDK kadaisi kaatchi dhaan paathEn..

[SoftSword]

:lol:
serial killer... now mimicry artist...

[ajaybaskar]

Sathyam didn't get the permit from the CMDA. They were planning for setting up an IMAX in Escape Cinemas.

[wizzy]

//bleddy cmda..Prasads initially did plan it in Sennai before it ran into same issues//

[Arvind Srinivasan]

What does the CMDA have to do with all this...Can someone educate me on this..

[ajaybaskar]

CMDA may not have approved the layout since IMAX requires a taller structure may be. Or they might've required something something..

[Bala (Karthik)]

Planning to watch after 2 months. TDK kadaisi kaatchi dhaan paathEn..
Indha approach-um pudichirukku

[venkkiram]

ஜோக்கரை தாண்டி இனி எந்த வில்லனும் வரப்போவதில்லை என்ற அதீத அபிராயத்துடன் திரியும் என்னை எப்படி இந்த முகம் தெரியாத Bane ஈர்க்கப் போகிறான்? பையனை இந்த வாரக் கடைசியில் Ice Age க்கு அழைத்துச் செல்ல உறுதி அளித்துவிட்டதால் அதற்கு அடுத்த வாரக் கடைசிக்கு முன்பதிவு செய்யணும். பார்க்கலாம்.

[Nerd]

Quoting a 2 year old post.

Next Batman Movie, tentatively titled as Batman 3 is slated for release on July 20,2012. To be directed by Chris Nolannnnnn. Hope it will break TDK opening weekend record

wah reh waa.. american languvej top. what a planning :clap: nambaalungalum...

[Bala (Karthik)]

BTW, can someone explain at kilipillai level what is hub punditry, and wannabe punditry. Names please?
I ask this because "people" (PR wink) use the term hub pandidhargal (fake or genuine) in a very derogatory and caustic tone but then they are back to normal otherwise in addressing every hubber. Appo koo are there in this coveted list? Koo is hwhat?

[littlemaster1982]

Quoting a 2 year old post.


wah reh waa.. american languvej top. what a planning :clap: nambaalungalum...

I've always wondered about this. Idhu eppadi saathiyam :huh:

[P_R]

Quoting a 2 year old post.


wah reh waa.. american languvej top. what a planning :clap: nambaalungalum...

:shock:
idhellAm clap paNNi ookkuvikka koodaadhu.
ippadi pazhagi dhaan American client ellAm panjuvaalty-ai edhirpArkkurAinga.

[Nerd]

BTW, can someone explain at kilipillai level what is hub punditry, and wannabe punditry. Names please?
I ask this because "people" (PR wink) use the term hub pandidhargal (fake or genuine) in a very derogatory and caustic tone but then they are back to normal otherwise in addressing every hubber. Appo koo are there in this coveted list? Koo is hwhat?
TM Vs NOV is going on. My guess.


I've always wondered about this. Idhu eppadi saathiyam :huh:
Guess since summer is pretty much the only time of the year in which big budgets can safely release (winter weather etc), thuNdu pOttu vechippaaingannu ninaikkiREn..

[P_R]

I've always wondered about this. Idhu eppadi saathiyam :huh:

mudhalla deadline vandhu, adhukkappuram product definition kickoff discussion nadakkuradhellAm sahajam dhaanE.

[sathya_1979]

Planning Planning Planning - And Execution as per plan - Brilliant and Classic Case Studies for Project Management.

[SoftSword]

Planning Planning Planning - And Execution as per plan - Brilliant and Classic Case Studies for Project Management.

sathya... u no agile?

[venkkiram]

படம் முடிந்து மீதியிருக்கும் ஒரு நாற்பது சதவீத நாட்களை படம் வெளியீடு சம்பந்தமான விளம்பரங்கள், அதை யொட்டிய பேரங்கள் இவைகளில் செலவிடுவார்கள் எனக் கேள்விப் பட்டிருக்கிறேன். "நம்மூருக்காரைங்க படம் வெளியிட்டு நாள் எனப் பேச்சு வரும்போதே எப்படி ஆயிடுவாங்கன்னு ஜோக்கர் உடல் மொழியில் சொல்லனும்னா இந்தக் காட்சியை சொல்லலாம். "But when I say that one little old mayor will die, well then everyone loses their minds!

[ajaybaskar]

They stick to the deadlines and hence planning the release date in prior is very much possible.

[sathya_1979]

sathya... u no agile?
No, V Model all along

[ajithfederer]

Dooty dikniti and disipplin.

Probably it's in their genes. As someone who have worked with a few of em I have to give it to em. Town Bus ellam time-kku varum povum :clap:

I've always wondered about this. Idhu eppadi saathiyam :huh:

[ajithfederer]

Pudikadhavan padathai thitradhu - Wannabe punditry
Ellathayum thitradhu - Hub punditry.

My understanding.

BTW, can someone explain at kilipillai level what is hub punditry, and wannabe punditry. Names please?
I ask this because "people" (PR wink) use the term hub pandidhargal (fake or genuine) in a very derogatory and caustic tone but then they are back to normal otherwise in addressing every hubber. Appo koo are there in this coveted list? Koo is hwhat?

[venkkiram]

Will they spend their week end time with family members? Or they work around the clock till dead line (like us)?

[ajaybaskar]

Nope. They work from Monday thro Friday. They don't bring office to home and vice versa. Matter over.

[KlamRoyA]

I've always wondered about this. Idhu eppadi saathiyam :huh:

same applied for bollywood movie..
they r also very stick to release date..
they wil announce the release date before the commencing of shooting...

kollywood'um irukke.. :banghead:

[Sid_316]

maybe the best, most troubling, assured and enthralling of all the superhero movies.

Time's Review : http://entertainment.time.com/2012/07/16/times-review-of-the-dark-knight-rises-to-the-depths-to-the-heights/#ixzz20oPnGdQO

[sathya_1979]

Graveyard elegy - sOli mudinjadhu :(

[m_karthik]

Great initial reviews for TDKR.. 29 Fresh reviews out of 30..

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_dark_knight_rises/

"Big-time Hollywood filmmaking at its most massively accomplished, this last installment of Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy makes everything in the rival Marvel universe look thoroughly silly and childish."

Next is Man of Steel(Superman reboot) by Nolan(story&production)...
Warner may even come up with a Justice League movie with him on board..

[m_karthik]

Guess since summer is pretty much the only time of the year in which big budgets can safely release (winter weather etc), thuNdu pOttu vechippaaingannu ninaikkiREn..

2015 varaikkum ippovae thuNdu pOttu vachittainga..

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/

[kid-glove]

Genuine: will they be adding nipples to the costume?

[kid-glove]

Will bale stop howling like an Owl?

[kid-glove]

Will Hathway cables throng all over like rubber hosepipe.

[ajithfederer]

Let me go one step further. Who wants this when I have BB. :evil:

Planning to give this one a skip..

[KlamRoyA]

http://tamil.webdunia.com/entertainment/film/fromhollywood/1207/17/1120717001_1.htm

கர்ப்பமாக இருக்கிறார் ஆனி ஹேத்தவே - பத்தி*ரிகைகள் கண்டுபிடிப்பு

தி டார்க் நைட் ரைசஸ் படத்தில் நடித்திருக்கும் ஆனி ஹேத்தவே கர்ப்பமாக இருப்பதாக அமெ*ரிக்க ஊடகங்கள் தெ*ரிவித்துள்ளன.

29 வயதாகும் ஆனி ஹேத்தவே கடந்த 2008 முதல் தனது பாய்ப்ரெண்ட் ஆடமுடன் ஒன்றாக வசித்து வருகிறார். இந்நிலையில் கடந்த 12 ஆம் தேதி ஆனியும், ஆடமும் இணைந்து தங்களின் நெருங்கிய நண்பர்களுக்கு பார்ட்டி ஒன்று அளித்தனர். இதில் அவர்களின் பெற்றோர்களும் கலந்து கொண்டனர்.

பார்ட்டியில் இருவ*ரின் பெற்றோர்களும் கலந்து கொண்டது வழக்கத்துக்கு மாறானது என்று கூறியிருக்கும் ஊடகங்கள் பார்ட்டியில் ஆனி மது எடுத்துக் கொள்ளவில்லை என்றும் தெ*ரிவித்துள்ளன. தான் கர்ப்பமாக இருப்பதை அறிவிக்கவே ஆனி இந்த பார்ட்டியை ஒழுங்கு செய்தார் என்று பத்தி*ரிகைகள் கூறுகின்றன. ஆனி தரப்பிலிருந்து இதுவரை இதற்கு மறுப்பு வராத நிலையில் ஊடகங்களின் கணிப்பு உண்மை என்றே தெ*ரிகிறது.

தற்போது தங்களின் திருமணத்துக்கு நல்ல தேதி தேடி வருகிறது இந்த ஜோடி.

[KlamRoyA]

Sreedhar Pillai ‏@sri50
TDKR advance booking opens tonight at 12 midnight at all popular multiplexes in Chennai. Limited seats as it is opening in all small screens

[venkkiram]

இங்கேயும் பிள்ளைவாள் வந்துட்டாரா? இதற்கு எத்தனை நட்சத்திரம் கொடுக்கப் போகிறாரோ!

[Bala (Karthik)]

Let me go one step further. Who wants this when I have BB. :evil:
Unga TV series moham enga poi mudiyappordho therila! :razz:

[krajkumard123]

Booked tickets for TDKR cbe SAthyam friday morning 12pm show

[ajaybaskar]

@RajeevMasand: The Dark Knight Rises is very good....but it's not The Dark Knight. And Bane is no Joker.

[Arvind Srinivasan]

Booked for the evening show in S2 on Friday....

[kid-glove]

Unga TV series moham enga poi mudiyappordho therila! :razz:

You mean Loham. Ee loham'la irunchi no escape Bala gaaru.

[ajaybaskar]

Friday Matinee @ PVR

[kid-glove]

Booked Saturday matinee.

Thank you Chris Nolan!

Your film took out a huge number of heads away from other movies that I'd planned to watch but could not.

That's exactly what happened. I'm going to Naan-E. :mrgreen:

[ajaybaskar]

Idhu konjam overa illa?

[kid-glove]

Unmai thaanE. Naan-E kedaikela ba' last week.

[P_R]

I booked for Naan-E on Saturday evening.
TDKR tickettukku oru naNbar acid oothurEnnu solli irukkAr.
adhu kidaichchA Naan-E cancel.

[kid-glove]

Have a similar deal here. But I'm almost certainly going to N-E.

[wizzy]

^giving David Billa a miss :huh:

[Sid_316]

^giving David Billa a miss :huh:

:lol2:

Me tom evening :victory:

[Nerd]

I am watching this (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1862079) on Saturday.

[Bala (Karthik)]

Paarthaagivittadhu, paarkavendiyadhaayitru :lol: :soonapaana: PKS mutual consent. Thennaattu Kurosawa Mysskin will whip Nol's begind :razz:

Now I will wait for what you guys saw and found to be great in this movie

[P_R]

Muruga, yaar yArukkellAmO ticket kidaikkadhu.
indha weekend naan pAkkalai, unnai thiruththaNikku vandhu thittuvEn. Jockradhai.

[Bala (Karthik)]

:lol:
200% sheer you find it << TDK (oh adhu yerkanave theriyundreengala?)

[P_R]

adhu theriyin
Atleast oru mainstream piece, TDK ellAm uchchakattam, difficult to Top.
Better than Begins - which itself is pretty good - is good enough for me.

oor pEr theriyAdha sila friends of friends of friends kooda pArkkura nilamai. Eesually idhellAm total-A avoid paNNiruvEn.
Rojavai kiLLAdhE: aaNdavan padaippula, konjooNdu inbaththukkAga..

[San_K]

Tamil - The Dark Knight on SUN TV - Sunday 2:30 PM

[SoftSword]

Paarthaagivittadhu, paarkavendiyadhaayitru :lol: :soonapaana: PKS mutual consent. Thennaattu Kurosawa Mysskin will whip Nol's begind :razz:

Now I will wait for what you guys saw and found to be great in this movie

disappoiting/ok/average edhunaa sollunga...
naan naalaikku poren... expectation condrol panna vasadhiya irukkum..

[sathya_1979]

Paarthaagivittadhu, paarkavendiyadhaayitru :lol: :soonapaana: PKS mutual consent. Thennaattu Kurosawa Mysskin will whip Nol's begind :razz:

Now I will wait for what you guys saw and found to be great in this movie
TDK cassette comparison uttupOttu, oru action padam engira muRaiyil idhai paRRi ungaL karuththu? Rate in the scale of 1 to 5, 5 being the best. at least oru 3.5 aachum thErumaa (Above average)?

[sathya_1979]

disappoiting/ok/average edhunaa sollunga...
naan naalaikku poren... expectation condrol panna vasadhiya irukkum..
adhE adhE! FB la Egappatta promotion, oru 10 friendskku ticket vaangi IMAXla koottitu pOren, avanga moonjila thuppaama irukkaNum :oops:

[ajaybaskar]

Chumma padam paakkamalaye thatti viduradhu. Padam indha weekend ella theatreleyum full. Adhanaala padam nallathaan irukkum.

[kid-glove]

Now I will wait for what you guys saw and found to be great in this movie

Nolan can do no wrong in some pupil's eyes.

[kid-glove]

:lol:
200% sheer you find it << TDK (oh adhu yerkanave theriyundreengala?)

Of course.

Joker oruthan pOdhumE.

Bane should be good, but not Joker level. Even if Hardy's a monstrous talent.

[kid-glove]

I am watching this (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1862079) on Saturday.

Sounds interesting.

Thanks.

Thanks and Regards,
KG

[kid-glove]

^giving David Billa a miss :huh:

Billa gave me a miss with some godawful teasers and trailers.

[Saai]

Saturday 3:15 AGS

[Bala (Karthik)]

SS/Sathya
Ada enakku set aagaadhu-nga, I think you will not be disappointed. Enakku indha madhiri padangalla eerrppu perusa illa. Had a rough day in office, wanted to leave early, theertham vera vittaachu, valaagathulaye theater iruku, nera poitten.
Also. Paakkaamalum irukka mudiyaadhu, vitta korai thotta korai.

Superhero theme (Mysskin exempted orredy lah) futuristic setting, heavy duty action - claustrophobic feel kudukkum, for me. I'm not able to see/understand/enjoy beyond this form and array of superhero/action film cliches

[kid-glove]

Thalaivar's Guru is the best superhero film. That upside down laser scene was lifted by De Palma for MI.

[P_R]

The kattAyam indha thyAgaththai nee senjE aagaNum thing was done very well in BB and TDK.
Oh, idhai thaan ivvaLavu naaLum superhero movies-la invoke paNNa pArthAingaLA-nu thONich.

enna seyyuraangannu pArppOm.

[sathya_1979]

nanRi Bala sir!

[SoftSword]

indha maadhiri action padangal'layae naan modhallo theatrela paatthadhu fiderman dhaan.. pona veram.... :life_hating:
but tdk oru varusam kalichu dhan cdla paatthaen... nallaa irunchu... not cos of the superhero but the supervillain... so konjam espettason... paappom..

[P_R]

///////////////
Alfred: Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
-------
Bruce Wayne: The bandit, in the forest in Burma, did you catch him?
Alfred Pennyworth: Yes.
Bruce Wayne: How?
Alfred Pennyworth: We burned the forest down
///////


indha mAdhiri ellAm endha superhero movie-la pAththriukkOm. Tell tell?

[Prabo]

Chumma padam paakkamalaye thatti viduradhu. Padam indha weekend ella theatreleyum full. Adhanaala padam nallathaan irukkum.

:lol:
Aiyooooo eppadinga......chance-ae illa......itha neenga angayae sollalaamae

[venkkiram]

முழுக்க முழுக்க வில்லன் - அரசு மோதிக்கொள்ளும் களத்தில் கூட, மக்களின் (குற்றவாளிகள் ஒரு படகில், சாதாரண மக்கள் இன்னொரு படகில்) புரிதலை ரொம்ப அழகாக சொன்ன பாங்கு பாராட்டுதலுக்குரியது.

"Tonight you're all gonna be part of a social experiment. Through the magic of diesel fuel and ammonium nitrate, I'm ready right now to blow you all sky high. Anyone attempts to get off their boat, you all die. Each of you has a remote... to blow up the other boat. At midnight, I blow you all up. If, however, one of you presses the button, I'll let that boat live. So, who's it going to be: Harvey Dent's most wanted scumbag collection, or the sweet and innocent civilians? You choose... oh, and you might want to decide quickly, because the people on the other boat might not be so noble. "

ஒரு சூப்பர் ஹீரோவை இதைவிட அசிங்கப்படுத்திவிட முடியாது.

Batman: Then why do you want to kill me?
The Joker: [giggling] I don't, I don't want to kill you! What would I do without you? Go back to ripping off mob dealers? No, no, NO! No. You... you... complete me.
Batman: You're garbage who kills for money.
The Joker: Don't talk like one of them. You're not! Even if you'd like to be. To them, you're just a freak, like me! They need you right now, but when they don't, they'll cast you out, like a leper! You see, their morals, their code, it's a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these... these civilized people, they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve.

[m_karthik]

Wikipedia la irukkura Plot padikkavae bore adikkudhu.. full ah kooda padikkala because of spoilers.. idhula 164 minutes vera..
After great initial reviews... now there are many negative ones.. :neutral:

RottenTomatoes blocked comments to their reviews after some bad blood..

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2012/07/19/the-dark-knight-rises-raises-ugly-debate-on-rotten-tomatoes/

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/christopher-nolan-defends-dark-knight-rises-fans-heated-response-critics-negative-reviews-article-1.1117693

[sathya_1979]

161 fresh out of 185 in RT, missing something? :roll: Anyways, reviews ellaam romba yOsikka koodaadhu (Good or Bad), book paNNiyaachu, paartura vENdiyadhudhaan

[m_karthik]

RT Meter.. TDK vs TDKR

TDK - 282-264/18-94% Top Critics-45-41/4
TDKR - 185-161/24-87% Top Critics-41-32/9

[groucho070]

Read some of the reviews. padikka koodathu, AnA curiousity...I am going to watch it, but not soon...

[ajaybaskar]

Joker was not a villain. He considers himself a hero. He has his own set of principles. :)

[ajithfederer]

I suck at trolling :lol:.

I am watching this film this weekend. But I am expecting this sunday's 2nd episode more than this film. And anyway if you get a chance you should watch this. This shit is of the highest order.

Unga TV series moham enga poi mudiyappordho therila! :razz:

[kid-glove]

///////////////
Alfred: Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
-------
Bruce Wayne: The bandit, in the forest in Burma, did you catch him?
Alfred Pennyworth: Yes.
Bruce Wayne: How?
Alfred Pennyworth: We burned the forest down
///////


indha mAdhiri ellAm endha superhero movie-la pAththriukkOm. Tell tell?

We had this in every Alfred-Batman exchange in the Bruce Timm show.

And you guys sneer at TV.

[P_R]

We had this in every Alfred-Batman exchange in the Bruce Timm show. What is this?

And you guys sneer at TV. Strittly sitcoms. TV serials are for housewives.

[SoftSword]

TV serials are for housewives.

++
unless u guys give me some link which is as interesting as a movie...

[ajithfederer]

Coming from a guy who admits liking Aapakarama gown :lol2:

What is this?
Strittly sitcoms. TV serials are for housewives.

[ajithfederer]

Western TV SHOWS are =! Indian soap Operas, people. They are better than most Indian films anyway.

[SoftSword]

nachunu irukkura madhiri oru link kudunga... periya seeriesa irukkavenaam... oru one hour... rendu tin beer mudiradhukkulla mudinjiranum...

[wizzy]

Western TV SHOWS are =! Indian soap Operas, people. They are better than most Indian films anyway.

++ HBO original series is probably better than most of the stuff HW dished out recently.

[ajithfederer]

Whaat the hell!! Gunman shoots down 14 people during the premiere of this film.

http://stream.wsj.com/story/colorado-shooting/SS-2-34741/SS-2-34748/

[kid-glove]

I told you this shit is going crazy..

[kid-glove]

Yep, TV shats on Film from great height really.

[kid-glove]

Bruce Timm is the man who gave us the Gotham and Batman that the comic deserved

http://geektyrant.com/storage/0999-post-images/batman1620239123.png?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=13 42630417360

[Nerd]

Wikipedia la irukkura Plot padikkavae bore adikkudhu.. full ah kooda padikkala because of spoilers.. idhula 164 minutes vera..
After great initial reviews... now there are many negative ones.. :neutral:

RottenTomatoes blocked comments to their reviews after some bad blood..

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2012/07/19/the-dark-knight-rises-raises-ugly-debate-on-rotten-tomatoes/

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/christopher-nolan-defends-dark-knight-rises-fans-heated-response-critics-negative-reviews-article-1.1117693


Whaat the hell!! Gunman shoots down 14 people during the premiere of this film.

http://stream.wsj.com/story/colorado-shooting/SS-2-34741/SS-2-34748/

:shaking:

[P_R]

Coming from a guy who admits liking Aapakarama gown :lol2:
Sentiment ellAm pudikkin. eppadi solRadhunnu irukkulla.

I don't think I have ever watched a non-comedy TV serial ever.

[P_R]

Bruce Timm is the man who gave us the Gotham and Batman that the comic deserved
Oh. Comics ellAm theriyAdhu.
bommai padam-nA padichchA chippu varaNum.

Graphic novel, manga - ellAmE konjam :huh: dhaan.

[Nerd]

Whats that aapam?

Sitcoms are for sissies (I do watch Modern Family :oops: ). I used to look down upon TV series watchers too until I started watching one. The writing/making etc., are of unbelievable quality. Folks can check out Downton Abbey / Mad Men / 24 (cheap thrills) etc. Not a fan of Breaking Bad with the 3 episodes I have watched.

[ajithfederer]

Hum aapke hain koun film.

[SoftSword]

beginners'ku oru 20/20 link kudunga..

[ajithfederer]

SS, TV Shows/sitcoms are by seasons and by episodes. Sitcoms in general have 20+ episodes per season and Series(es) have 8-13 episodes. Again sitcoms run into nearly 8-9 seasons and series(es) run 4-7 seasons. The numbers may vary again. If you are sure you can take in the volume I will try and find some links and pm u later.

[Nerd]

beginners'ku oru 20/20 link kudunga..

Yourtvseri.es idhula pOyi downton abbey (1910s UK), Mad Men (60s USA), Breaking Bad, Dexter, 24 etc. ovvoru episode paarunga. See what interests you. Trust me you wont' be disappointed. And check out the TV thread for more recommendations.

[SoftSword]

sure gimme... i am open to watch interesting stuff... veetiyaa dhaan time pogudhu... and its weekend... i am game...

[kid-glove]

I judge people who only watch sitcoms. As for Bommai padam, it's for this medium, not radio plays! Manga, anime pathi ellam solli, enna use.

[ajaybaskar]

Speechless!!!! Nolan, take a bow!! Anymore on the film will end up in me posting spoilers. Go for it. :clap:

[sathya_1979]

Kadhai wikila viLaavaariyaa pOttutaan :evil:

[SoftSword]

adhennaya kettapalakam... oru padam paakkuradhukku munna kadhai ellaam padikkiradhu...
konjaneram surutti vechukittu irukka mudiyaadhaa?

[venkkiram]

Kadhai wikila viLaavaariyaa pOttutaan :evil: நீங்க அதைப் படிச்சிடிங்களா?

[sathya_1979]

No. Only some reviews in R T and Metacritic

[wizzy]

//SS, start with State of play TV series to know the how the movie made a hash of it..riveting plot..you might probably finish the series in day or so //

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0362192/

[SoftSword]

sure... tonite watch scheduled...
would settle with bottle..

[Sid_316]

AS a fanboy liked it :mrgreen: But remba remba masala this time around and gfx too.. Kinda let down compared to the other parts ( adhulla masala illaya nu kettudadheenga )

[venkkiram]

www.cablesankaronline.com/2012/07/the-dark-knight-rises.html?spref=fb

His last paragraph on watching this movie in Tamil - :rotfl:

[Arvind Srinivasan]

Really good. But IMHO TDK was better.

[ajaybaskar]

@AmyKinLA: Warner Bros. says it will not report #TDKR weekend box office figures until Monday "out of respect for the victims and their families."

[ajaybaskar]

http://p.twimg.com/AyTsCNsCQAAXJ7O.jpg:large

[kid-glove]

Lot of hair rising moments, but not always same part of the body. Adhavudhu oru mayiru twist irukku.

[sathya_1979]

Lot of hair rising moments, but not always same part of the body. Adhavudhu oru mayiru twist irukku.
pidichudhaa illayaa, adhai sollunga saamy

[sathya_1979]

IMAX enhanced the experience multi fold, first movie in IMAX and what a grand one!

[Saai]

Liked it better than Dark knight :)

[kid-glove]

Oru madhiri pidichu pudikama irukkE.

Slight improvement in Action choreography btw. But still lacks impact of TDK, which I now think agrees well with chaotic universe of Joker and so on..

Biggest disappointment = the dialogue. Heavy and desperate. Alfred choking and teary-eyed, really?

Some improvement in side characters, how the genesis is rewritten. Why was Holly cut short, was it done in editing room?

And that twist is a joke for Batman universe. Is that really a twist?

Lot of pauses for the delayed Batman/Bruce Wayne moments, almost like Nolan wanted it for 'insert clap', so it was fun for the audience.

Zimmer rectifies himself in 2nd half. Too much intruding in 1st half.

[kid-glove]

This one is too much plot than TDK, which had better moments and better rhythm in 'oruthanku oruthan kadhula-poo'(Seems to be Nolan's MO throughout his filmography. It gets irritating when he plays that with the audience) plot twist and turns. And TDK has much more compelling major characters. In a way, this one takes itself less seriously, reduced to 'pain' as said. Alfred's major reveal isn't quite reflected on Wayne. What's the fun in physical confrontation ('fear of 'death' in the well was very very mild, Begins held tight on 'fear' in ways this one does not)? Apart from Nolan improving hand to hand combat choreography?

Hathway Cables is a huge turn-on in that outfit. Unpredictable as ever, she's still reduced to a one-note character. Thought they could have done a lot with Holly-Kyle, a borderline lesbian relationship. Kyle character-E purinjukka mudiyadhu-ngra madhiri end panni irukkOnum. Another divulge from Batman universe.

As for the 'rise' of the male sidekick, side to side, from Gordon's to Batman's, well done.

[SoftSword]

sure... tonite watch scheduled...
would settle with bottle..

watched it all in one go overnite...
gimme more!

[VENKIRAJA]

My review (http://paathasaari.blogspot.in/2012/07/2012.html) on TDKR. Quite a lazy one at that.

[Sid_316]

K_G :thumbsup: Nolar is becoming a summer-blockbuster director guy.. hopefully he comes back to his memento/prestige days.

[P_R]

Unselected

[P_R]

So this is how laborious other Nolan films felt for others is it?

[kid-glove]

Sort of.

[kid-glove]

Batman after Catwoman disappears "So this is how it feels".

[P_R]

Batman after Catwoman disappears "So this is how it feels".
I was thinking exactly that.
It was like taking every kind of moment that worked earlier and ruining it.
Scarred by the dialogue. Enna kaNRaavi idhu??

[kid-glove]

The whole trilogy is overrated. But... Joker is Art. Imagine Joker repeating that after me, 'Art' with his head tilted down, mock and lure me to punch him, then he'd grab me by the throat and get his phone call.

I thought Bane didn't transcend any more than a one-noted menace. Poor Hardy, not to blame him. There's only so much you could do with that kind of a role.

[P_R]

Just to clarify : this has nothig to do with TDKR based expectation.
Even by itself, it's a tedious movie.

[P_R]

The joker was great I course
The dent-Wayne, needing to be a symbol, need to be more than human, the sacrifices etc
All came out very well in TDK.
I don't think I've ever liked a superhero movie like that. Well told.

[Bala (Karthik)]

PR, did/do you actually care about the background, details, history, characterization (:rotfl2:) of Batman and other characters? So padatha paakkarakku idhellaam therinjukkanum, right? What exactly is the point of these films? (1,2,3 whatever)? Indha superhero characters vechu social behavior human nature pathi commentary, critique? Isn't there anyone else who finds this just an age old an annoying American/Hollywood exercise? Is everybody so invested in all this? I mean, to tolerate/enjoy the staple action film features and aspects for clever plot twists, dialogues etc? Is all this profound or meant to be profound?

Simble-a kekkanumna idhoda adi naadham enna? Saw ur tweet about the justice dispensation by the people @ French revolution. Director saar enna solla varaaru?
(Btw, Nolar-a sollalaam sir, perusa padam edukka vendaam, small and tight, local etc....)

[Bala (Karthik)]

People who like it for action, clever dialogues, fast screenplay etc etc ok, adhu Vera topic.... (can't for the life of me understand how THAT makes this series or Nolar worthy of such lofty worship, ennamo poda)

[Bala (Karthik)]

The pit scenes. WTF were those? :huh:

[VENKIRAJA]

It is not at all as bad as how so many people claim. It is certainly better than Begins.

[Saai]

How many of us know Batman for longtime? I mean from the comics. I went to the movie with one two such friends....and from the vibe, I understand that this movie is emotionally connecting to Batman fans than dark knight...

Only thing that I found silly was a twist towards the climax.Other than that, I liked everything...... I liked Batman better in this movie than in Tdk. It nullifies any the comparison between bane and joker. It had an wonderful build up to Batman and executed it cleanly... I started watching Batman only in movies and not from the comics. This is the movie that made me a Batman fan...not the dark knight. I liked dark knight for joker....

It is a fitting end to the 'Batman' trilogy...

[Saai]

Bala,

You should have listened to the claps when Wayne meets cat after escaping from the pit. Oru ultimate hero of a town, gets back from such a drudgery and meets heroini ..... instant clap worthy and hair risingnga

[ajaybaskar]

Same here,Saai. I didnt watch it a friend but the person next to me was a fan of the comics. In interval, he said Nolan brought the exact feel that the comics used to give him. He also used some unparliamentary words when remembering the old Batman films. I have seen a couple too. The one with Arnie as villain and the other with Carrey.

[P_R]

PR, did/do you actually care about the background, details, history, characterization (:rotfl2:) of Batman and other characters? So padatha paakkarakku idhellaam therinjukkanum, right? What exactly is the point of these films? (1,2,3 whatever)?
Oh yeah.
He goes beyond fighting petty thieves.
What is crime? What is the other side? Tom Wilkinson is easy to see.
But Liam Neeson's line is 'all this is total decadence, that should come down'
One doesn't actually disagree with him but only stands on the tenuous thin once that nobody can decide from the outside.
Justice v Revenge ellAm beginsla beautifullA irukkum.

TDK is another level: the conversation about the limitations of democracy when there are enemies at te gates, the need to be a symbol beyond fallibility, and then the symbol taking the fall. All were extremey well done.

I am not a monster, I am just ahead of the curve - ellAm totally sensible.
The joker gets how Batman is also perceived as a freak and the cops ('friends' :lol: ) will turn on him soon.
The loneliness comes out exceedingly well.



Simble-a kekkanumna idhoda adi naadham enna? Saw ur tweet about the justice dispensation by the people @ French revolution. Director saar enna solla varaaru?
Not just that. No corporate profits, then no way to take care of orphans-aamaam.
Total sodhappal.

Dropped the ball here.

[P_R]

Batman yaarunnE theriyAdhu.
I know only these films. Boring.
Hathway better looking than the earlier ladies, but boring anyway.
The batbike was good, two 90 degree turns. The bat was hohum. Video games.

[kid-glove]

For comic book or animated series fan, that twist is shitty-nga. So I yam interested who are these friends who liked this film.

[P_R]

And, not to sound smug, twist wasn't that big a surprise.
'I trust you'nu sollumbodhE alaram adichiruchu.
I hear you are looking for men- la confirm aayiruchu

[Saai]

For comic book or animated series fan, that twist is shitty-nga. So I yam interested who are these friends who liked this film.

If it s to me... then I think you have misunderstood my post... I was not talking about the twist there at all

[kid-glove]

Even emotionally, this film's a huge let down, no?

For comic fans, Holly-Kyle aside, Bane-Batman physical confrontation aside, onnum illingalE.

[P_R]

Even emotionally, this film's a huge let down, no?
Yeah, very much. 'ungaLai thookki vaLarthavan ejamaan' type Alfred moments were :?

For comic fans, Holly-Kyle aside, Bane-Batman physical confrontation aside, onnum illingalE.
Holly 'ngradhu yaaru?
The physical biff pow was also not interesting.

[kid-glove]

Holly the other roommate girl who is all over Kyle, who takes care of her.. I'm assuming much more of her had been shot and left on the cutting room. She's to Catwoman what Robin is to Batman.

[kid-glove]

Yeah, very much. 'ungaLai thookki vaLarthavan ejamaan' type Alfred moments were :?

Heavy and desperate.

Also Alfred's character would never do something like that.

[ajaybaskar]

Holly or Jen?

[kid-glove]

Here she's called Jen..

[ajithfederer]

Paaravala.

TDK >>>>> TDKR but that was to be expected. Same goes for Joker to Bane. One has to believe that Nolan was restricted severely by this film. I cannot put the previous sentence in words exactly but that's what I feel. Even the action scenes are jaded and uninteresting. I mean in TDK you have this opening bank job, the tunnel chase, the prison escape and the hospital blowup. I mean scenes were first of a kind and extremely interesting but in this film that was not the case. Eppada stunt ellam mudiyum ngra madhiri irukku. And still he has a fetish for aero plane stunts.

And you had good confrontational scenes in TDK. TDK had good dialogs too. Pr can write more on this. I can't remember one good dialog here. 2nd half is mainly inspired by the score. P_r always asks how scores help films, well there you go. I can't imagine this film w/o this score. Hathaway was better. Levitt was a relief and Oldman was good as usual. Felt sorry for Hardy as an actor of good worth has been wasted.

To Ra al ghul and pamily: yenda ulagathula azhikka vera oore kedayadha??. :fatigue: Indha bangalore madras ellam consider pannalame. Now I have to watch TDK again.

It's good that the Batman franchise is done and dusted. Nolan is a victim of his own success.

[ajithfederer]

Spoiler alert:
haha. I should have known when he gets laid. Stupid me :lol:

And, not to sound smug, twist wasn't that big a surprise.
'I trust you'nu sollumbodhE alaram adichiruchu.

[P_R]

P_r always asks how scores help films, well there you go.
ayyA I never questioned that it can add to a good film.
Just that when BGM, cinematpgraphy etc and all get primary mention in a review then the film then there is something seriously wrong with the film 'ngREn.
Thassal my lord.

[P_R]

:lol:

Spoiler

thambidi kaasu illAdha, un sOgamAna mogarakattaikku wantedA vandhu jeep-la yERumbOdhE nee lightA doubt aaga vENdaamA dA

[ajithfederer]

:lol:. ok yuvar aanar.

[Anban]

Wikipedia la already full plot padichuttu thaan ponen .. the movie was interesting and kept us engaged through out, though there were not many wow scenes .. ending thaan angels and demons aayiduchu ..

[venkkiram]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6LaUIet_vcQ

[venkkiram]

"Every Great Story deserves a Great Ending and 'The Dark Knight Rises' is our Attempt to give that GREAT story, a GREAT ENDING."
- Christopher Nolan.

[ajaybaskar]

TDKR is doing well in Chennai multiplexes. From Santham, it has been shifted to the main screen Sathyam. In PVR, the biggest screen (Audi 3) is showing the movie from today.

[raajarasigan]

Watched this movie yesterday in AGS, Navalur... liked it though I had not seen the first two parts but read the plot in wiki to know the characters... athanAla thAn climax'la oru emotional connect varalennu nenaikkaEn.. :neutral:

[SoftSword]

can u beat this nolan?
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7mir75Has1qzwkywo1_1280.jpg

[NOV]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/428918_329082573845729_2057899908_n.jpg

[venkkiram]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r37LfnBu6pI&feature=relmfu

[VENKIRAJA]

Watchmen (The Ultimate Cut).
Rewarding experience. Was intense and very well VFXed. Enjoyed it, as much as X-Men.

[gane14]

MOVED (http://www.mayyam.com/talk/showthread.php?8530-Which-non-indian-film-u-saw-recently-has-made-u-post-here&p=921730&viewfull=1#post921730)

[ajithfederer]

Missed this on big screen but watched it many times on TV. Some very good comic characters (Dr. Manhattan, Rorshach and the Comedian). Has some great bgms too (Ride of the Valkyries and My fav I am the boogie man). Not for everybody though. Cinematography is top notch. Opening throwing the comedian through the glass scene -ae than namma saran asal-la adichirupaaru :-P.

Zack Snyder the director is taking Man of Steel with chris Nolan at the story helm.

Watchmen (The Ultimate Cut).
Rewarding experience. Was intense and very well VFXed. Enjoyed it, as much as X-Men.

[ajithfederer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShTVpGuzk1M&feature=relmfu

it's quite funny that the film came at the time of the great recession and as they show in this vid the american dream it did become true and we looked at that.

[VENKIRAJA]

Missed this on big screen but watched it many times on TV. Some very good comic characters (Dr. Manhattan, Rorshach and the Comedian). Has some great bgms too (Ride of the Valkyries and My fav I am the boogie man). Not for everybody though. Cinematography is top notch.
Doing something which Terry Gilliam and Darren Aronofsky claimed impossible is seriously laudable. And he, has done what he failed in 300 or missed in Sin City. The music, particularly reminescent of the 50s and 60s is brilliantly chosen.
I can't say how the concise theatrical version would have felt. The wholesome Ultimate cut.. especially the elaborate comic book sequence and the extras were possibly etching me the intricacy of the characters which I might have possibly missed out without reading the graphic novel. (Which I found costs over 1500 Indian bucks on Flipkart. OMG!)

Opening throwing the comedian through the glass scene -ae than namma saran asal-la adichirupaaru :-P.
Hehee. Not as funny as the Villain KSR name appearing sequence, I believe.

Zack Snyder the director is taking Man of Steel with chris Nolan at the story helm.
That is what triggered me into downloading this one. I am glad I did. ;)

[kid-glove]

America needs its heoroes.

This British guy Nolan should stop making dumb parallels to our politics though

[kid-glove]

Huh?

Read Zizek on TDKR:

http://boitempoeditorial.wordpress.com/2012/08/08/dictatorship-of-the-proletariat-in-gotham-city-slavoj-zizek-on-the-dark-knight-rises/

[kid-glove]

And to someone who laughed about my 'Tale of two cities' parallel in Coffee Corner, this is for you..

[kid-glove]

Zizek on TDKR: Dickens, “Cheization” of Christ, Ra's al Ghul as Atreides in Dune, Twain, radical-emancipatory struggles in "People’s power"!

Strange of Zizek to not invoke Assange given he invokes Gandhi and 'divine violence' of people's power :lol2:

Imagine the guy has a typing assistant, and he read it all out in one go. With trademark nose twitch, scratching of arm pits, rough stroking of the beard and adjusting the sticky t-shirt around the chest area.

Still fashions out the best deconstruction of the politico-ideological moves in the film.

[kid-glove]

In deed, this british Nolan re-imagining non-violent OWS into a violent carnage and dictactorship of the proletariat, is undemocratic commie propaganda nonsense. So I was glad that the Batman joins hand with the state establishment and puts them back in place. And glad that he's dispensed in the process, about time some true blood american took over from that Welsh-English diet freak. Also time for Gordon Levitt to put on a mask, 8 years after 'Mysterious skin'. Aligned enough for you?

[Bala (Karthik)]

Thanks for the Zizek piece KG. Well, he's easier to read than watch/listen :)
Still not quite sure if i get/convinced with the final point, which is the whole point of the piece, in the first place :oops:


This is why external critique of the film (“its depiction of the OWS reign is a ridiculous caricature”) is not enough – the critique has to be immanent, it has to locate within the film itself a multitude signs which point towards the authentic Event. (Recall, for example, that Bane is not just a brutal terrorist, but a person of deep love and sacrifice.) In short, pure ideology isn’t possible, Bane’s authenticity HAS to leave trace in the film’s texture. This is why the film deserves a close reading: the Event – the “people’s republic of Gotham City”, dictatorship of the proletariat on Manhattan – is immanent to the film, it is its absent center.

[kid-glove]

The failure of 'real' Communist measures/regimes, the wildly pervading but evasive absence of centralization (the absent center), of 'dictatorship of the proletariat' (as in Nolan's fiction, and in reality) is his point. And an ongoing discourse of Zizek on impracticality of 'pure ideology' (in expansive works like "Mapping Ideology" and "In defense of Lost causes", it's much unlike Orwell's mode of chronicle ala 'Homage to Catalonia', where the meaninglessness of the mobilized of any multitude of ideas into singular frame as such, 'anarchists', and (in)distinction of communists to anarchists at different levels is merely presented. Zizek actually goes on to ask very many questions, which is all rooted from ideal-real prism)

He isn't offering a solution to resolve the very inherent failure in application of this 'dictatorship of the proletariat' by even the best of ideologies, and how this could be cloaked as a non-violent 'negation' (hence the part about Seeing, I'd also add the sequel Blindness as a companion piece), and how it still carries the immanence (arguably more) than as portrayed (brutal caricature), and the dangerous potential of such mobilization (To extremities) is possible, the holistic premise to panic and invite violence on to itself.

"Sublime Object of Ideology" and "Violence", describes further on the aforementioned and the plurality of mobilized unit of some size mapped as responses to impossible-real kernel.

Key to reading Zizek: Never do it in one go. Would even prescribe a in-sequential reading, key is to latch on to the many hooks in each of the chapters.

[kid-glove]

http://www.softtargetsjournal.com/web/zizek.php

ST: It is not for nothing that Sorel is the fundamental reference for Benjamin! This is completely effaced in Agamben’s discussion of the text. When discussing divine violence in recent texts, you tend to refer to events like the uprisings of the Brazilian favelas and the slums of Caracas rather than the antiglobalization movement and its theorists. The example you yourself provide for "divine" violence, in a recent text on Robespierre, are the "food riots" in the favelas of Rio de Janeiro in the 1990s . . . Do these upheavals bear witness to the emergence of a new "subject" of struggles to come? In making this identification, doesn’t one risk the "populist" temptation you elsewhere denounce?

I was in Brazil during the food riots. People from the favelas simply descended into the city and began to loot, to terrorize the middle classes a little bit. I was shocked at how these events were treated. At first, people were horrified, as if it came from nowhere, a divine catastrophe. But once the police took care of the situation, the burnt stores and so on were treated like one more tourist attraction! But violence is a complex phenomenon, and several things have to be taken into account. First of all, we have to emphasize that violence is always a structural problem, an "objective" feature of contemporary capitalist societies. Today, we are fascinated by what I, following Badiou, call "subjective" violence, with an easily identifiable agent. Balibar has developed the idea, itself found in the Marxist tradition more generally, of a basic, structural violence in the functioning of capitalism itself. It is absolutely necessary to read explosions of subjective violence against this structural or objective violence. We shouldn’t focus exclusively on the subjective dimension. And we should also remember that violence is not necessarily activity, action. It is not always the case that social functions run by themselves and that it takes a lot of energy, a lot of violence to transform them. To the contrary, it often takes a lot of violence to make sure things stay the way they are. Sometimes, then, the truly violent act is doing nothing, a refusal to act.

[venkkiram]

Today morning, the very first person came to my mind was Nolan. Because I had a dream inside a dream (one layer!) in my early morning sleep. That's a wonderful experience.

[SoftSword]

and ur wife kicked to wake u? :)

[venkkiram]

and ur wife kicked to wake u? :) :) Its the alarm clock! One more interesting was, I read this article on Neeyaa-Naanaa discussion about dreams before I went to bed yesterday night.

http://nagoorumi.wordpress.com/2012/08/15/%E0%AE%A8%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE-%E0%AE%A8%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%A9%E0%AE%BE/

[Bala (Karthik)]

The failure of 'real' Communist measures/regimes, the wildly pervading but evasive absence of centralization (the absent center), of 'dictatorship of the proletariat' (as in Nolan's fiction, and in reality) is his point. And an ongoing discourse of Zizek on impracticality of 'pure ideology' (in expansive works like "Mapping Ideology" and "In defense of Lost causes", it's much unlike Orwell's mode of chronicle ala 'Homage to Catalonia', where the meaninglessness of the mobilized of any multitude of ideas into singular frame as such, 'anarchists', and (in)distinction of communists to anarchists at different levels is merely presented. Zizek actually goes on to ask very many questions, which is all rooted from ideal-real prism)

He isn't offering a solution to resolve the very inherent failure in application of this 'dictatorship of the proletariat' by even the best of ideologies, and how this could be cloaked as a non-violent 'negation' (hence the part about Seeing, I'd also add the sequel Blindness as a companion piece), and how it still carries the immanence (arguably more) than as portrayed (brutal caricature), and the dangerous potential of such mobilization (To extremities) is possible, the holistic premise to panic and invite violence on to itself.

"Sublime Object of Ideology" and "Violence", describes further on the aforementioned and the plurality of mobilized unit of some size mapped as responses to impossible-real kernel.

Key to reading Zizek: Never do it in one go. Would even prescribe a in-sequential reading, key is to latch on to the many hooks in each of the chapters.
Mannikkanum, idhukku Zizek-e paravaa illa! :lol: :oops:


Recall the old French story about a wife who complains that her husband’s best friend is making illicit sexual advances towards her: it takes some time till the surprised friend gets the point – in this twisted way, she is inviting him to seduce her… It is like the Freudian unconscious which knows no negation: what matters is not a negative judgment on something, but the mere fact that this something is mentioned – in The Dark Knight Rises, people’s power IS HERE, staged as an Event, in a key step forward from the usual Batman opponents (criminal mega-capitalists, gangsters and terrorists).

Here we get the first clue – the prospect of the OWS movement taking power and establishing people’s democracy on Manhattan is so patently absurd, so utterly non-realist, that one cannot but raise the question: WHY DOES THEN A MAJOR HOLLYWOOD BLOCKBUSTER DREAM ABOUT IT, WHY DOES IT EVOKE THIS SPECTER? Why even dream about OWS exploding into a violent takeover? The obvious answer (to smudge OWS with accusations that it harbors a terrorist-totalitarian potential) is not enough to account for the strange attraction exerted by prospect of “people’s power.” No wonder the proper functioning of this power remains blank, absent: no details are given about how this people’s power functions, what the mobilized people are doing (remember that Bane tells the people they can do what they want – he is not imposing on them his own order).

This is why external critique of the film (“its depiction of the OWS reign is a ridiculous caricature”) is not enough – the critique has to be immanent, it has to locate within the film itself a multitude signs which point towards the authentic Event. (Recall, for example, that Bane is not just a brutal terrorist, but a person of deep love and sacrifice.) In short, pure ideology isn’t possible, Bane’s authenticity HAS to leave trace in the film’s texture. This is why the film deserves a close reading: the Event – the “people’s republic of Gotham City”, dictatorship of the proletariat on Manhattan – is immanent to the film, it is its absent center.
"This is why" - WHICH is why?
"It's a mockery/caricature of the OWS/French revolution" -> is the obvious and easiest criticism to make, external, OK.
" No wonder the proper functioning of this power remains blank, absent:" - What i'm trying to understand is what he infers from this absence? What next? How? :medhuva thaen varuven: :oops:

[kid-glove]

:oops:

"WHICH is why?" = "No wonder the proper functioning of this power remains blank, absent: no details are given about how this people’s power functions, what the mobilized people are doing (remember that Bane tells the people they can do what they want – he is not imposing on them his own order)." So indha 'taking power' depiction-a surface level-a criticize panradhu pOdhadhu..

"What i'm trying to understand is what he infers from this absence? What next? How? " Lack of pure ideology drive in this. But if that's fiction, what about reality?


This impossibility of unified puristic 'ideal'ogy in People's power. You have to put in to context the (possibility of 'pure' agenda) critique mapped in the central piece that he links in the article, link in footnote..


http://wavesunceasing.wordpress.com/2012/07/21/the-dark-knight-rises-a-fascist/

[ajithfederer]

The Dark Knight in Blu Ray!!! - Watched 3 times in I-MAX then and still going great guns. Compared to this TDKR is a travesty. Joker is the best character in any Nolan film. RIP Ledger :bow: