Jazz and Isaiyaraaja

[Hulkster]

Recently thalaivar has been delving strongly into jazz with albums like Madhiya Chennai and now Paa. He has been using them frequently as a synth accompaniment, a fusion with another genre like rock or totally a backing in a folk fashion even before this albums.

Can anyone name songs which uses jazz in some way(atleast the length of an interlude) of thalaivar cause i want to keep collections of them and perhaps intiate discussions on this topic. Preferrably the more unknown and perhaps yet to be analysed ones(excluding Mumbai Express).

One which i think was never really thought of that much is perhaps this glorious and rollicking tune - Ennada Ninaicha - AOKK (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs=%27SNGIRR0338%27)

Main genre being jazz
Ennadi Meenakshi - Ilamai Oonjaladugirathu
Day By Day - Honest Raj
Unnai Patri Sonaal - Mathiya Chennai
Mumbai Express(Almost all songs)
Niram pirithu - Time
Madhu - Intha Ulagil
Thanga Kili - Manam Virumbuthey Unnai
Kaa Kaa - Julie Ganapathy
Idhu Oru Nilaa Kaalam - Tik Tik Tik

Jazz as an accompaniment
Ennama Kannu - Mr Bharath
Unn Vaazhvey Oru Kathaiyaagalam - Mathiya Chennai
Mudhi Mudhi and all its versions - Paa
Cheeni Kum saxophone theme - Cheeni Kum
Engey Irundhai Isaiyey(Second interlude, Raja sung) - Ajantha
Pelli ki Mundhu Okasaari - Dharma Kshetram

[Hulkster]

I am not sure if this fits in jazz but from the same movie another song, a rather sensuous one Unnalae Thookam - AOKK (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs=%27SNGIRR0341%27) The suspicious part is the interlude and the way the stanzas after the interludes are orchestrated. :?

[tvsankar]

Hulkster,
Dono about Jaaz..

Tell me about Jaaz...

Apo dhanae kandu pidika mudiyum?

[Sureshs65]

Hulk,

A song on which I wrote a blog post, which I think is jazz, especially the way the rhythm and the interludes work, is 'naa paruvam' from a Telugu movie 'Yugandhar'. This was probably released in 1978 or 1979. So Raja's brush with jazz goes a long way back.

[Hulkster]

Yup and there are many songs where jazz plays like some sort of normal accompaniment where you can never guess them. Its this type of songs i am looking for. :D

[csramasami]

Day By Day - film Honest Raj, Please listen. Absolute Bliss.

[Sureshs65]

Hulk,

Check out the song in TFM Pick of the week thread, posted by Neel. A song titled 'yAr mAmanO'. Very short song with one interlude which is very jazzy. You can include this is your jazz list. As I have been saying Raja has been using jazz from late 70s itself. This song posted is a 1979 song

[Hulkster]

I think the best of the lot is ennadi meenakshi which itself was around 1977 or 1978. Thats the earlier thalaivar has delved into jazz as far as i know.

Lets keep this thread as the list is going to expand beyond infinity. :lol2:

[jaaze]

Hulkster,
Dono about Jaaz..

Tell me about Jaaz...

Apo dhanae kandu pidika mudiyum?neengaluma :shock: :yessir:

[Hulkster]

Hulkster,
Dono about Jaaz..

Tell me about Jaaz...

Apo dhanae kandu pidika mudiyum?

Yenakkey athu patri avalavu theriyaathu, but keithaal theriyum avalavu thaan :lol2: Saxophone usage jazzil rombo prominent.

[tvsankar]

Hulkster,
Dono about Jaaz..

Tell me about Jaaz...

Apo dhanae kandu pidika mudiyum?neengaluma :shock: :yessir:

jaaz,
enna ipadi solreenga.. enaku onum theriyadhu.
inga vandhu dhan ellam therinjukaren. (kathukalai... )

indha Jaaz matum therinjuka mudiyalai......

[tvsankar]

Hulkster,
Thanks for the reply.Neeengalae ipadi sonna
enna artham...... hmmm

saxophone usage .... sari.
apo

Mumbai Express - songs Jaaz a???

[tvsankar]

thanimaiyil yar ival - Azhagae Unnai Aaradhiakren

[Hulkster]

Hulkster,
Thanks for the reply.Neeengalae ipadi sonna
enna artham...... hmmm

saxophone usage .... sari.
apo

Mumbai Express - songs Jaaz a???

Mumbai Express :exactly: I think Thalaivar's most jazz centric album which really divided jazz itself into various sub genres. :clap:

[tvsankar]

THank you Hulkster....

wat about - Appapa thithikum mutham un mutham ???

[vel]

CSR, "day by day" was new to me - i am totally awestruck ! splendid song !!

[raagas]

There is a song called "Pelli ki Mundhu Okasaari" from Telugu film "Dharma Kshethram". It has lot of Jazz piano countermelodies, while the song has more of Swing rhythm.

[Sureshs65]

vel,

I agree with you. "Day by Day" is a revelation. Lovely song with lovely interludes.

kiru: You should check this song. Raja brings forward the standard techniques of jazz. Something we were discussing wrt 'Paa'.

[Plum]

Since I havent heard Day by Day, I was trying to put a tune on it, and figured that the this phrase "Day by Day" can easily fit the famous thumbi vaa phrase :-)

[Sureshs65]

Hulk,

Check out 'raakolam' from 'Enthe Suryaputriku'. Very jazzy song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aFQR7dcCLc&feature=player_embedded

[csramasami]

Vel : Happy you could listen to Day By Day song, which I feel pure Jazz. :D

Plum : Regarding fitting this song into "Thumbi Vaa" Good one. I feel wordings of "Man-galyam Thandhu-na-nena.." fits excellently upto last word :lol:

[tvsankar]

Niram pirithu parthen - Time - ?

[Fliflo]

Excellent piece of Jazz in Tik Tik Tik

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj87vdGGGbU

[Hulkster]

Niram pirithu parthen - Time - ?

:exactly: I think one of the most famous and recent jazz songs of thalaivar that is often heard by us.

[tvsankar]

Hulkster,
Thank you.. Enaku Jaaz kandu pidika therinjadha... :D

[irir123]

Niram pirithu parthen - Time - ?

:exactly: I think one of the most famous and recent jazz songs of thalaivar that is often heard by us.

tats WALTZ n not jazz !!

[Sanjeevi]

Appo Mella Oornthu Oornthu is also Waltz!

[irir123]

sanjeevi - yes its kindof - but with IR, its not always straightforward this or that genre! even 'niram pirithhu' has some hiphop style second interlude n lots of synth usage u wont find in waltz, but the overall feel is waltz

[Hulkster]

Niram pirithu parthen - Time - ?

:exactly: I think one of the most famous and recent jazz songs of thalaivar that is often heard by us.

tats WALTZ n not jazz !!

I thought it was jazz? Alot of jazz elements in that song. Perhaps a amalgation of both.