Top 10 Versatile Actors

[VENKIRAJA]

MP?

ellAm namma Mounam Pesiyadhey thaan...

[P_R]

2) Ghajni mottai kind of out-of-normal characters I will not flaunt Ghajini in a hurry. But that just as far as I am willing to go in terms of dissing that performance


"kaadhal kaatchigaLil munbirundha saraLam ippodhu illai" :lol:


this ringtone-jealousy phase by the age of 16 :-) ) AppO dhaan phone-E kidayAdhE.
andha kaalathula Kiruthigai Roshan-nu oruththan irundhaan :x

[P_R]

PR - that role of a hunchback aint a diffi one - the plus in that role is the comedy, and he did do well, but there are ppl who do better comedy than him in tamil anyways :huh:

I agree it is not difficult. But even that....:lol2:

[MADDY]

i still wouldnt call Madhavan versatile as in same league of NT, kamal or rajini.....he still has a long way to go.... :)

still?...apdi onnum perusa "thambi" panlaye...

oru village role...onne onnu sample irukka?

village role-la muzhugi irundha ramarajan (ex-MP) dhaan pinna most versatile-a??? :lol:

[Plum]

I will not flaunt Ghajini in a hurry. But that just as far as I am willing to go in terms of dissing that performance


Adhu vandhunga, trailer-leye oru scene varum. Adhu epdi irundhuchuna



ARM: Start action
Asst Director, from outside camera range: Robot maadhir straight-a nadanga
Surya does a robotic routine
AD: Ippo left-la thalaiya vettunga
surya vettifies thalai to the left
AD: Ippo right-la thalaiya vettunga
surya vettifies thalai to the right
AD: Ippo sindhu bhairavi-la unga appa medailerundhu kobama oru look vuduvare, andha look vudunga
[i] surya stares appropriately, minus JKB's glasses

NOTE: Surya repeated same routine for 'Karthik, the boxer's post-trauma behaviour' in Perazhagan
:rotfl:

[hamid]

"Ringtone matter-la paadhikka pattirukanga"
- idhu enna matter? ellarum solreengale..


Avaru call pandra ella ponnungalum surya ringtonethan vechurukangalam...

Numbers kudukka sollunga.. check panni paarpom :noteeth:

[P_R]

Plum

veRi is a f (opposition)

dv/do > 0
d^2v/do^2 >0

adhunaala dhaan konjam adhigamA koppaLikkarEn

PS: neenga mattum != pOttu engaLai purinjikka solreengalla..indhaanga vachchukkunga :poke:

[hamid]

ithu enga poy mudiyumoo? :shaking:

[Vivasaayi]

i still wouldnt call Madhavan versatile as in same league of NT, kamal or rajini.....he still has a long way to go.... :)

still?...apdi onnum perusa "thambi" panlaye...

oru village role...onne onnu sample irukka?

village role-la muzhugi irundha ramarajan (ex-MP) dhaan pinna most versatile-a??? :lol:
apram maddy mattum epdi romba versatile?

[MADDY]

i still wouldnt call Madhavan versatile as in same league of NT, kamal or rajini.....he still has a long way to go.... :)

still?...apdi onnum perusa "thambi" panlaye...

oru village role...onne onnu sample irukka?

village role-la muzhugi irundha ramarajan (ex-MP) dhaan pinna most versatile-a??? :lol:
apram maddy mattum epdi romba versatile?

pinna ramarajan versatile-nnu othukka solreengala :lol2:

[Plum]

PR, indha symbols-kellam naanga anja maattom. Apram naan partial differntial equations, tensor notations-lam poda vEndi varum...venaam sollitten

veri was in a lighter tone. Adhellam serious illai but Surya is a mixed bag - even now. Ellorum Ayan-la nalla irukkungaranga(Even surya-critic sarna) - enakkennamo andha padathula dhaan perusa onnum pannalainu thonudhu. Total disconnect.

Adhukkaga namma Madhavan ennamo Rajni, Kamalkappuram nesstu avar dhaannu solradhu konjam over-a illai?

[Sarna]

PR, indha symbols-kellam naanga anja maattom. Apram naan partial differntial equations, tensor notations-lam poda vEndi varum...venaam sollitten

veri was in a lighter tone. Adhellam serious illai but Surya is a mixed bag - even now. Ellorum Ayan-la nalla irukkungaranga(Even surya-critic sarna) - enakkennamo andha padathula dhaan perusa onnum pannalainu thonudhu. Total disconnect.

Adhukkaga namma Madhavan ennamo Rajni, Kamalkappuram nesstu avar dhaannu solradhu konjam over-a illai?

" Look I am acting " not applicable for Surya in Ayan(the whole movie.. he was very ease in everything wt he did in Ayan)... even for the son charactor in the VA :) indha rendaththavira maththa ellaa padaththulayum Surya will say " Look I am acting " :lol2:

TR's " vaadaa en machchi...vaazhakkai bajji...O odamba pichchi...pOttuduvEn bajji " dialogues'ku visil adichchu rasikkura saadhaarana rasigan'nga :) enna pOyi critic'u adhu idhunu periya periya vaarththayellaam.... appuram PR vandhu solvaaru " gundoosi vikravanellaam critic'u :x "

[P_R]

Surya-vai pudikkumpOdhu appidi ellAm solvEnA :mrgreen:

karuththu maarichu...straight-A gundoosi dhaan :lol2:

[Sarna]

I will not flaunt Ghajini in a hurry. But that just as far as I am willing to go in terms of dissing that performance


Adhu vandhunga, trailer-leye oru scene varum. Adhu epdi irundhuchuna



ARM: Start action
Asst Director, from outside camera range: Robot maadhir straight-a nadanga
Surya does a robotic routine
AD: Ippo left-la thalaiya vettunga
surya vettifies thalai to the left
AD: Ippo right-la thalaiya vettunga
surya vettifies thalai to the right
AD: Ippo sindhu bhairavi-la unga appa medailerundhu kobama oru look vuduvare, andha look vudunga
[i] surya stares appropriately, minus JKB's glasses

NOTE: Surya repeated same routine for 'Karthik, the boxer's post-trauma behaviour' in Perazhagan
:rotfl:

Perazhagan released before Gajini :P
But indha particular style of acting'ku inspiration'aa irundhadhu Jyo :lol2:

[Plum]

[tscii:30bd060dfa]Sarna, naan paartha order first Ghajini then Perazhagan:-) Adhaan mind-la nikkudhu
The point remains - konjam angry young man role-na, andha role-oda range epdi irundhalum, Surya avaroda appa-voda andha kaala technique-ai use pandraaar.

Idhai Karthik-no oru blogger romba arumaiya describe panni irundhaar:
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A conversation between Surya and his Dad:

“Dad, I have this role in this new movie and I am supposed to be an amnesiac for good two hours. Any advice?”

“Drink coconut water, don’t smoke, don’t drink, do Yoga and get out of your relationship with Jothika.”

“Dad, I asked for acting tips, not this crap.”

“Oh, ok. Have you seen me act angry in movies?”

“You mean where you keep your body erect, roll your eyes and shake your head robotically back and forth?”

“Yes. Exactly. Do that.”

For once, Surya listened to his dad.

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[Sarna]

karuththu maarichu...straight-A gundoosi dhaan :lol2:

At first viewing of Saami, I was spellbound by Vikram's acting.... late'aa dhaan (after 3 to 4 viewing) konja konjamaa puriya aarambichchadhu Vikram over-acting panniyirukkaarunu :oops: Arul paaththadhukkappuram confirmed... Anniyan'la double confirmed....

future'la sollamudiyaadhunga :yessir:

[Prabo]

karuththu maarichu...straight-A gundoosi dhaan :lol2:

At first viewing of Saami, I was spellbound by Vikram's acting.... late'aa dhaan (after 3 to 4 viewing) konja konjamaa puriya aarambichchadhu Vikram over-acting panniyirukkaarunu :oops: Arul paaththadhukkappuram confirmed... Anniyan'la double confirmed....

future'la sollamudiyaadhunga :yessir:

Saamy padathuku appadi nadicha than nalla irrukum....Remember Alex Pandiyan. Vikram was too good as Saamy, though I don't like the movie

[Sarna]

Moonrumugam.... 10 dhadavukku mEla paaththirukkEn.. I never got bored or irritated...ovvoru dhadavayum interest koodittudhaan pOgudhu... thalaivar as alexpandian is something different'nga , nammala(atleast enna) vEra ulagathukku kondu pOyiduvaar :) andha nEraththula yaaraavudhu enna gundoosi vachchu kuththuna kooda sorana irukkaadhu :twisted:

But ippa saami paaththEnaa, naan gadappaaraya thEdanum :oops:

[Nerd]

Unlike others, there is no sense of "look ma I am acting". No self-conscious performance.
Naanum oru jaalrA..surya idhula poojjiyam-num sollikkurEn!

[Nerd]

Unlike others, there is no sense of "look ma I am acting". No self-conscious performance.
Naanum oru jaalrA..surya idhula poojjiyam-num sollikkurEn!

[Sarna]

Unlike others, there is no sense of "look ma I am acting". No self-conscious performance.
Naanum oru jaalrA..surya idhula poojjiyam-num sollikkurEn!

puriyala :roll:

[Hulkster]

Surya is a very unnatural actor. Dunt know why so many of us are overrating him. He puts in alot of emotions into his acting which overpowers the movie at times. He is good but certainly not worth the grade. But his dialogue delivery is quite good. Intha topic poruttha varai he tries alot but tends to put in a very similar performance in all of these roles.

[Nerd]

Vel. Very natural, if I may, as much 'nature' as possible in a masala movie
Ennadhu??????? :shock: Ridiculous I say!! Mudhal scene-la ellAm epdi eriyum-nu solvaarE(?) the whole theater was in splits. I had the misfortune of watching it in a theater. Suththa waste, his performance(?) is on par with his own uyirOdu kalanthuvidu.

Sarna, I said I agree with groucho on that point. Also Maddy beats surya quite convincingly in that aspect.

[Sanguine Sridhar]

Surya is a very unnatural actor. Dunt know why so many of us are overrating him. He puts in alot of emotions into his acting which overpowers the movie at times. He is good but certainly not worth the grade. But his dialogue delivery is quite good. Intha topic poruttha varai he tries alot but tends to put in a very similar performance in all of these roles.

Hulks LTNS? :)

Can you please say "how" & "when"? Some examples?

[Plum]

Nerd, naan andha opening scene-ai kindaL panni irundhene paarkaliya?
I was appreciating parts of that performance.
Neenga full thread padichuttu sollunga (atleast full post padingappa:-( )

But Vel maadhiri mokkai padangaL paarka mudinjidhi - even though there were those "petrol kerosene sumo" moments, there was enough compensating screen-hogging moments. He could carry it off. As PR pointed out, moments of Aaru also stand out. I have more problems with his 'succesful', 'crowd-pleasing' ayans and ghajinis.

I cant say that of RenDu and Madhavan. Madhvan needs the script to back him, and even there, when the director didnt rein him, he ended up with a Jyothika-inspired Thambi.
He was awesome in 13B. But that role is almost Madhavan himself, minus the shocked moments, and the thrill konashtais he had to do.

[Hulkster]

Moonrumugam.... 10 dhadavukku mEla paaththirukkEn.. I never got bored or irritated...ovvoru dhadavayum interest koodittudhaan pOgudhu... thalaivar as alexpandian is something different'nga , nammala(atleast enna) vEra ulagathukku kondu pOyiduvaar :) andha nEraththula yaaraavudhu enna gundoosi vachchu kuththuna kooda sorana irukkaadhu :twisted:

But ippa saami paaththEnaa, naan gadappaaraya thEdanum :oops:

Yup, intha vishayathil thalaivar is underrated. Alex pandian might seem over the top but the panache of the performance was dual styled. One brought out rajini's natural expressions and another his style gimmick, both coming together to make it a memorable role. Vikram tried to be abit more simple but he sounded more like a nice ruffian than a policeman.

There alot of movies which thalaivar proves that only he can do them as they require a actor to bring them to the audience despite the entertainer they are bound to be. No matter what role he does he makes it seem so realistic and attractive. Cue the philosopher role in muthu where instead of going full preachy, he lets his expressions and modulation add to the impact of the dialogues. If any other actor(besides kamal) tried that role it would have looked like a joke.

[Plum]

IMO, Alex Pandian was a joke. Andha naDai was so unnatural. And Arun performing the Alex Pandian nadai later in the party was even more horrifyingly laughable.
Not one of Rajni's best at all.
(dharma aDi poda poreeenganu theriyum but innikku maddy-oda oru practice round of boxing ippo dhaan potten - so konjam confidence irukku ella dharma aDiyum face pannalamn :-) )

[Hulkster]

Surya is a very unnatural actor. Dunt know why so many of us are overrating him. He puts in alot of emotions into his acting which overpowers the movie at times. He is good but certainly not worth the grade. But his dialogue delivery is quite good. Intha topic poruttha varai he tries alot but tends to put in a very similar performance in all of these roles.

Hulks LTNS? :)

Can you please say "how" & "when"? Some examples?

I say unnatural because he adds in too much of impact in his performance where it does not sound realistic after a while. Might be director's fault but a actor still needs to know which is suitable and which is not.

Gajini is enough and there were certain instances in vaaranam aayiram(when he is a drug addict) and quite a number of scenes in kaaka kaaka(especially the parts where the sentiment is high) where he goes overboard. Sometimes expressions are enough in such scenes.

Compare kaaka kaaka to vetteiyaadu vilaiyaadu, kamal was so cold and composed, much like how a police officer should be that i just watched the film for him. The scenes where he loses his loved ones one by one did not have him going for the loud tones but controlled emotions enough to show the sadness he is going through. That is natural.

[Hulkster]

IMO, Alex Pandian was a joke. Andha naDai was so unnatural. And Arun performing the Alex Pandian nadai later in the party was even more horrifyingly laughable.
Not one of Rajni's best at all.
(dharma aDi poda poreeenganu theriyum but innikku maddy-oda oru practice round of boxing ippo dhaan potten - so konjam confidence irukku ella dharma aDiyum face pannalamn :-) )

Like i said it was over the top and maybe due to the style gimmick but some of his expressions when he confronts thamarai really gave the outlook of a arrogant police officer. You have to take into mention that his movie was a entertainer rather than a cop thriller like kaaka kaaka or vetteiyaadu vilaiyaadu. Its actually quite good when you come to think that rajini had actually mixed his style gimmich(commercially wanted by everyone then and now) and his acting together.

[Nerd]

Plum I dint know if we both were criticizing the same scenes. Sariyaa nyaabagam illai, thankfully. How about the kAkkA scene? IdhellAm Vijay panna vENdiyadhu and most certainly he would have done much better. Vel ellaam discussion-kkukoNdu vandhadhe thappu.

Maddy accent-a kiNdal pannreenga OK. Kamal thavira maththa ellArum orE level dhaan. But at least a few are pretty good in their *comfort zones*

Sathyaraj - Kongu
Maddy - English and to an extent Brahmin thamizh
etc.

Alex pandiyan joke-nA chowdhry-yum joke-nu sollunga! RendumE onnu dhaanE. But AP-la andha Bast*** after lighting a ciggy off the table onnu pOdhum!

[Plum]

Theriyum Nerd. I have my own criticism of Chowdhry. But Chowdhry had his moments, sila pala edangaL thavira, it was a controlled performance.

vEL - my point was more about if you ignore the vijay-moments which needed vijay(I guess even Ajith could not have carrried those off), he was pretty watchable in the rest of the movie. He was very good in the scenes where he tells Asin that her betrothed is a drug addict(himself, actually) etc. That being one of his lesser movies, there is quite some slack that can be cut for him. he has his weaknesses, but versatile-nu solradhukku neraiyave claim irukku (Pithamagan, parts of Vel and Aaru(including accent as PR mentioned), Perazhagan, that movie where he kidnaps jyothika...ipdi)

Marvan Atapattu maadhiri career start panninadhala Surya-voda career average sure is not good but irukkara koLLila nalla koLLi dhaan sure-a. Maddy is also good. Adhukkaga, Suryavai koraichu pesanumnu illaiye...

[Sanguine Sridhar]

Theriyama thaan kekuren, whats so special about Madhavan?
Enna periya versatile? His dialogue delivery is most of the times average to poor, his body language is ok, comedy sumaar, emotional scenes paravalla... except his Kanathil Muthamittal mithadhellam enakennamo perusa onnum abiprayam illa.

[Hulkster]

My list of versatile actors.

I define versatility in ability to give the appropriate acting required for that performance.

1) Madhavan
2) Dhanush
3) Arya
4) Bharath

Hard to think of the rest. Bharath is another severely underrated actor. Role may not be versatile but acting is.

[Hulkster]

Theriyama thaan kekuren, whats so special about Madhavan?
Enna periya versatile? His dialogue delivery is most of the times average to poor, his body language is ok, comedy sumaar, emotional scenes paravalla... except his Kanathil Muthamittal mithadhellam enakennamo perusa onnum abiprayam illa.

He is actually the best natural actor after the terrific two(kamal and rajini). Just take thambi for example, alot of them criticised his so called rolling eyes but the way he modulated the dialogues, body language was that of someone hurt by all this violence and one who wants to eradicate this non-violently. A innocent misled person in nala damayanthi and as a misunderstanding then approving friend of kamal in anbe sivam. He does it all realistically. The thing like rakesh said was that he does not do it like he wants to show the world he is acting. All his acting is within the zone of the role.

[Plum]

Vikram-ku PR sonna maadhiri, adhellam intentional-a unintentional-a?

[Hulkster]

Forgot to add the romantic quotient. Surya is believed to be very romantic but he all he does is just look handsome. His scenes in ayan with tamanna were very old fashioned and if not for his looks would have been overwritten.

Madhavan is good looking as well but you can see that the way he "chases" a girl is like how a girl would want a guy to chase. Being ridiculously interested and wanting to convince her to be with him despite the otherwise negative situation like in minnale and run.

[Nerd]

Theriyama thaan kekuren, whats so special about Madhavan?
Enna periya versatile? His dialogue delivery is most of the times average to poor, his body language is ok, comedy sumaar, emotional scenes paravalla... except his Kanathil Muthamittal mithadhellam enakennamo perusa onnum abiprayam illa.

Dialaak delivery- he is good in his zone. At least he does not attempt something else and end up making a fool out of himself (Kiddo :lol2: )
Comedy - Who is better according to you? Maddy is slightly better than surya and vijay *used to* be good.

Anbe Sivam
Yaavarum Nalam
Aayitha Ezhuthu
Alaipaayuthey
EvanO oruvan
Nala Damayanthi

Idhula ellAm try putting someone else :huh: not to mention his indhi films.

[Nerd]

Have not seen many masala's of Maddy but Run > Surya's masala's!

[MADDY]

Have not seen many masala's of Maddy but Run > Surya's masala's!

even Rendu - chance-e illa......the blind man character is seriously out of surya;s reach and ability :P

[Plum]

"Idhula ellAm try putting someone else "
Nerd, indha aatai dhaan venaangaren. Idhukku mudive illa - apram Pithamagan sakthi Maddy pannuvaranu question varum?
Sithan role-la Maddy nenachu paarka mudiyalai? So? It doesnt prove anything.

In the list, except Aaidha Ezhuthu and to an extent, nala damayanthi, it's all his comfort
zone. Andha role kooda apdi irreplaceable oNNum illaye...Nala Damayanthi, maybe but AE is not definitely a unparallelled achievement for Maddy.

RUN - entertaning-a kooda illiye :-(
(Meera was the only tolerable part of the movie - that is if you can ignore the monkey jumping she does in song sequences)

[Prabo]

My list of versatile actors.

I define versatility in ability to give the appropriate acting required for that performance.

1) Madhavan
2) Dhanush
3) Arya
4) Bharath

Hard to think of the rest. Bharath is another severely underrated actor. Role may not be versatile but acting is.

:shock:
Neenga innum 'Garvam' pakkalaya???
And moreover Arya 5 padam kooda nadikala, athukulla versatile?

[Nerd]

Pithamagan othukkurEn, of course!

I was talking about the performances in Run/ other surya masala's. And you felt aaru/VEl were much entertaining than run? Shake hands walk off dhaan!

[Plum]

Nerd, aaru/vEl - parts of Surya's performance was good, including accent in Aaru. Doesnt mean the movies were entertaining.
RUN - Maddy's performance was quite unplaceable. Epdi solradhunu theriyalai - movie was unentertaining and Maddy did nothing to salvage it. Meera mattum illaina, andha padam paarthadhukku romba varutha pattiruppen.
Neenga Alex pandianukku thittuveenganu paartha, ipdi madhavanukku vakkalathu vaangittu nikkareenga? :-)

[littlemaster1982]

Plum,

You are the first person I know to say Maddy was not good in Run. He was just a chocolate boy till that film, but he did more than a convincing job as an action hero.

[Plum]

LM, agree the role was different for him. Apdi stand-out-a onnum panninadha enakku theriyalai. Enna, if you take out teh action scenes, it was typical madhavan romance scenes. Action scenes-la shine aanaranu ketta....sari vudunga, adhu epdiyum naan action scenes choice-la vuttuduven - so I am not the one to comment on that. Padam entertaining-a illai enakku and madhavan did nothing to make it better for me...

[Nerd]

Neenga Alex pandianukku thittuveenganu paartha, ipdi madhavanukku vakkalathu vaangittu nikkareenga? :-)
Alex Pandiyan is more style than substance. I like him immensely but I do respect a non-Rajini fan's opinion on him. IdhuvE neenga MM/Johnny/BOK etc. pathiyO, even the Muthu daddy pathiyO sollirundheengannA.. :twisted:

[Plum]

Non-Rajni fan-a? yaara paarthu...
Naanlam veerappa Apoorva SagodharargaL theatre-la paarkama irundhavan theriyuma?
(kadavuLe, indha post-ai CR padikkama irukkanum)

[littlemaster1982]

LM, agree the role was different for him. Apdi stand-out-a onnum panninadha enakku theriyalai. Enna, if you take out teh action scenes, it was typical madhavan romance scenes. Action scenes-la shine aanaranu ketta....sari vudunga, adhu epdiyum naan action scenes choice-la vuttuduven - so I am not the one to comment on that. Padam entertaining-a illai enakku and madhavan did nothing to make it better for me...

I guess you are not favorable towards action/masala films. Aana Surya made Aaru watchable-nu solreenga :confused2:

[Plum]

I guess you are not favorable towards action/masala films. Aana Surya made Aaru watchable-nu solreenga

idhula enakku oru consistency illainga. Neenga pattern-lam thedadheenga. Nejamave surya made *parts of* aaru/vEl watchable. Appo kooda action scenes choice-la vuttutu dhaan solren. Aarula PR quote pannina advice scene-lam nallave paNNi irundhapla. I could believe he was what he was in the movie - a hireling for a goon low-level politician.
RUN vandhu andha movie just didnt have much scope for Madhavan-nu nenaikkaren.
Madhavan was excellent in ND, 13B(saw it in Hindi), AS. AE was so-so. reNdu-lam....sometimes his 1000 watt smile is too over powering to notice other features of his acting

[littlemaster1982]

AE was so-so va :| :shake_hands: :walking_off: :lol:

[VENKIRAJA]

Forgot to add the romantic quotient. Surya is believed to be very romantic but he all he does is just look handsome. His scenes in ayan with tamanna were very old fashioned and if not for his looks would have been overwritten.

Madhavan is good looking as well but you can see that the way he "chases" a girl is like how a girl would want a guy to chase. Being ridiculously interested and wanting to convince her to be with him despite the otherwise negative situation like in minnale and run.

Need the youtube link of Perazhagan scene- Inside the car before a bad Shankar Mahadevan song. uvve types. Even the much-in-the-mouths Kaaka Kaaka romance was terrible. There was a spoof by CBE college studs some years back... avasiyam pArkaNum..

[Prabo]

The most versatile actor after Kamal & Rajni in tamil cinema is Vijayakanth

Village based - Chinna Gounder, Vaanathai Pola etc...
City based - Bharathan, Vaanchinathan etc...
Romance - Amman Koyil Kizhakkaley, Ninaivey Oru Sangeedham
Cop/Military/CBI/CID/IAS/IPS - Sollanuma
Gangster - Poondhotta Kaavalkaaran, etc
Singer - Vasantha Raagam, Paattukku Oru Thalaivan
Professor - Ramana
Rib tickling comedy - Narasimma, Gajendra
Politician, Loving brother, Caring Famiy man, Journo, Doc, GOD, etc, etc

Ivaru seyatha role'ae illanu sollalam, that too, he does it with atmost conviction. Very underrated and least discussed, but good actor and versatile too :thumbsup:

[directhit]

AE was so-so va :| :shake_hands: :walking_off: :lol: :lol:

plum, enna dhaan surya abhimaani ya irundhaalum run/ae ellaam aaru/vel a vida better nu (sollalai - neenga adhayum solluveenga :evil:) solradhellam three much!!

[directhit]

My list of versatile actors.

I define versatility in ability to give the appropriate acting required for that performance.

1) Madhavan
2) Dhanush
3) Arya
4) Bharath

Hard to think of the rest. Bharath is another severely underrated actor. Role may not be versatile but acting is. agree with this list except for Arya :? he was too good in Arindhum Ariyamalum and parts of Oram Po (adhula Son of Gun and dialogues stole the show). mathapadi guess needs more films

[Plum]

plum, enna dhaan surya abhimaani ya irundhaalum run/ae ellaam aaru/vel a vida better nu (sollalai - neenga adhayum solluveenga ) solradhellam three much!!

I have been misquoted, your honour. I refute all charges made against me, sir.
Surya Abhimani - Uncheck
Aaru/Vel are better films than AE - uncheck
Aaru/Vel are better films than RUN - uncheck

I deny all charges, your honour. I am innocent

[HonestRaj]

The most versatile actor after Kamal & Rajni in tamil cinema is Vijayakanth

Village based - Chinna Gounder, Vaanathai Pola etc...
City based - Bharathan, Vaanchinathan etc...
Romance - Amman Koyil Kizhakkaley, Ninaivey Oru Sangeedham
Cop/Military/CBI/CID/IAS/IPS - Sollanuma
Gangster - Poondhotta Kaavalkaaran, etc
Singer - Vasantha Raagam, Paattukku Oru Thalaivan
Professor - Ramana
Rib tickling comedy - Narasimma, Gajendra
Politician, Loving brother, Caring Famiy man, Journo, Doc, GOD, etc, etc

Ivaru seyatha role'ae illanu sollalam, that too, he does it with atmost conviction. Very underrated and least discussed, but good actor and versatile too :thumbsup:

Rightly said Prabo........

the most important point u have given is:


Very underrated and least discussed, but good actor and versatile too :thumbsup:

once our Hubber Selvakumar posted about these type of Top 10's "idhukkuthan nanga ellam aaniya pudunguradhillai" ..... nanum ippo adhaithan follow panraen

(even before starting the thread, they wud finalise the result.. like solomon pappaya's verdict)

[omega]

Non-Rajni fan-a? yaara paarthu...
Naanlam veerappa Apoorva SagodharargaL theatre-la paarkama irundhavan theriyuma?
(kadavuLe, indha post-ai CR padikkama irukkanum)

Oh neenga avvalavu periya theeviravaathiyaa (iruntheengalo??)

[m_23_bayarea]

IMO, Alex Pandian was a joke. Andha naDai was so unnatural. And Arun performing the Alex Pandian nadai later in the party was even more horrifyingly laughable.
Not one of Rajni's best at all.
(dharma aDi poda poreeenganu theriyum but innikku maddy-oda oru practice round of boxing ippo dhaan potten - so konjam confidence irukku ella dharma aDiyum face pannalamn :-) )

:hammer:

[Hulkster]

:shock:
Neenga innum 'Garvam' pakkalaya???
And moreover Arya 5 padam kooda nadikala, athukulla versatile?

From the performances i see, he has ability to make it interesting, the role in naan kadavul could have gone haywire if not for him and he still manages to have a legitimate presence in all the roles he plays without overdoing it.

[Hulkster]

Plum you must be a fan of the obviously attractive acting style as madhavan does not do such a style.

A true actor is one who makes it look realistic but not overdoing. Loads of madhavan performances match the requirements of the character. Some parts of aaru and vel are so similar that its just surya showing anger in one type and in fact is a member of the loud-shouting angry hero group.

Take a look at madhavan when he confronts atul kulkarni in run. All his anger is compressed within his expressions and modulation and when he lets out the "aei" you can see that he really means business. I love that scene in run.

[groucho070]

Nerd, Hulkster, and others who supported Madhavan, great job.

So, Plum, are we done with Madhavan? Ippo Surya-va?

[Sarna]

Hub is flooded with Madhavan fans :victory: :victory:

Madhavan theevira visiri WIBHA engE :roll:

[Sarna]

Plum you must be a fan of the obviously attractive acting style as madhavan does not do such a style.

A true actor is one who makes it look realistic but not overdoing. Loads of madhavan performances match the requirements of the character. Some parts of aaru and vel are so similar that its just surya showing anger in one type and in fact is a member of the loud-shouting angry hero group.

Take a look at madhavan when he confronts atul kulkarni in run. All his anger is compressed within his expressions and modulation and when he lets out the "aei" you can see that he really means business. I love that scene in run.

even in JJ, there is similar kinda scene.... maddy pulls it marvoulously :thumbsup: kaila seruppa eduththukittu Maddy pEsura style irukkE :vow: wt a timing ..adhula irukkura natural humour :rotfl:

[Plum]

Surya acting adhuvum pats-la pidicha "look ma I'm acting" rasigar endru pudidhaga oru karuthai anbar hulkster munvaithuLlAr. Idhai paRRi nanbar prabhu ram ippodha sila vaarthaigak uraippaar.

[Sarna]

Plum, Ayan adhu illeenga 8-)

Hulkster.... ayan paaththeengalaa ??

[P_R]

Non-Rajni fan-a? yaara paarthu...
Naanlam veerappa Apoorva SagodharargaL theatre-la paarkama irundhavan theriyuma?
(kadavuLe, indha post-ai CR padikkama irukkanum)

kaiyyum kaLavumaaga pidipattAr

CR-ai padikka vaikkiradhu enadhu kadamai

[P_R]

Take a look at madhavan when he confronts atul kulkarni in run. All his anger is compressed within his expressions and modulation and when he lets out the "aei" you can see that he really means business. I love that scene in run.
While I like (mildly) some other parts of Run I found this scene particularly funny. sodakku ellAm pOduvaapla (Lollu sabha version is :lol:)

The fun continues after Madhavan leaves with Atul Kulkarni's 'acting'.

[Vivasaayi]

Take a look at madhavan when he confronts atul kulkarni in run. All his anger is compressed within his expressions and modulation and when he lets out the "aei" you can see that he really means business. I love that scene in run.
While I like (mildly) some other parts of Run I found this scene particularly funny. sodakku ellAm pOduvaapla (Lollu sabha version is :lol:)

The fun continues after Madhavan leaves with Atul Kulkarni's 'acting'.

he was funnier when he walks after talkin to meera jasmine.ungannan vettunahan aruval vettuma..etc etc....

he turns and walk back with a villainous look :lol:

[P_R]

Surya acting adhuvum pats-la pidicha "look ma I'm acting" rasigar endru pudidhaga oru karuthai anbar hulkster munvaithuLlAr. Idhai paRRi nanbar prabhu ram ippodha sila vaarthaigak uraippaar.

LMIA fans enRumE LMIA label-ai maRukkavE seivaargaL. naanum maRukkiREn. :P

maRuppukku saanRu: Vietnam Veedu poster pArthAlE enakku allergy.

In what follows I use the label DLIMCA (Don't look ma I can't act)
Hat tip to Hub's leading linguistic innovator CR

IMO
LMIA Surya > DLMICA x for several values of x

[P_R]

he turns and walk back with a villainous look :lol:

:lol2:

EnglishkAran VV's fat sidekick (Cycle soosai) gives an idea on how to scare Sathyaraj

Boss....naama ellArum suththi ninnu avanai kodooramA muRaichi pArppOm boss :lol:

[Sarna]

Vishal's acting is "Don't look ma I can't act" :lol2:

so In PR's Opinion,
LMIA Surya > DLMICA Vishal x for several values of x :P

[P_R]

Vishal's acting is "Don't look ma I can't act" :lol2:

so In PR's Opinion,
LMIA Surya > DLMICA Vishal x for several values of x :P

(sic)

Kamal: 'dhoda anjOda naalaik kootnA ombOdhunnuvaan polA 'gudhE
Prabhu: illennuviyA nee

[Sarna]

Vishal's acting is "Don't look ma I can't act" :lol2:

so In PR's Opinion,
LMIA Surya > DLMICA Vishal x for several values of x :P

(sic)

Kamal: 'dhoda anjOda naalaik kootnA ombOdhunnuvaan polA 'gudhE
Prabhu: illennuviyA nee

GM: adraa sakka ....adraa sakka ... adraa sakka

ok... on a serious note, DLMICA'nu neenga yaara solreenga ?

[Raikkonen]

Vishal's acting is "Don't look ma I can't act" :lol2:

so In PR's Opinion,
LMIA Surya > DLMICA Vishal x for several values of x :P

(sic)

Kamal: 'dhoda anjOda naalaik kootnA ombOdhunnuvaan polA 'gudhE
Prabhu: illennuviyA nee

GM: adraa sakka ....adraa sakka ... adraa sakka

ok... on a serious note, DLMICA'nu neenga yaara solreenga ?

veliyila odura onanai ethukku vettiyila eduthu vidureenga sarna?? :lol:

[Hulkster]

Plum, Ayan adhu illeenga 8-)

Hulkster.... ayan paaththeengalaa ??

Yup, it showed both the bad and good side of Surya. Surya is a great entertainer, but tends to make the serious sequences look very dramatic. He is a good actor but not good enough to be considered as a sakalakala vallavan junior.

[Sarna]

Raik :oops:



1. Surya is a great entertainer,
2. but tends to make the serious sequences look very dramatic

1. Great entertainer ellaam 100 much'nga :twisted:

2. enakku puriyala :? dramatic'na ???

[Plum]

Raik :oops:



1. Surya is a great entertainer,
2. but tends to make the serious sequences look very dramatic

1. Great entertainer ellaam 100 much'nga :twisted:

2. enakku puriyala :? dramatic'na ???

Adhaan enakkum puriyalai- of all his attributes, it is as an entertainer that I rate him least.

[Hulkster]

Well he seems to have a good sense of humour and is able to protray such scenes like in mayavi and perazhagan not forgetting pithamagan in a very casual and affable manner.

But dramatic is because the scenes which require him to be more composed when emoting he makes it look mega-serial like with his over the top emotions. There have been scenes where he has been composed but the instances are too glaring to consider him accomplished in such circumstances.

[Plum]

Non-Rajni fan-a? yaara paarthu...
Naanlam veerappa Apoorva SagodharargaL theatre-la paarkama irundhavan theriyuma?
(kadavuLe, indha post-ai CR padikkama irukkanum)

kaiyyum kaLavumaaga pidipattAr

CR-ai padikka vaikkiradhu enadhu kadamai
:evil:

Thats why you find me raving most about MMKR, and generally pammifying when AS is up for discussion :-)

My father was strictly anti-Kamal(and he maintained that until death), so that was a formative influence and save for Nayagan and a few other movies, it was hard to distinguish Rajni and Kamal in the 80's in terms of standing out as a beyond-masala cineaste. Not that I would have known but even then, dance & action scenes matrum movies-la persua interest kedayadhu. Ofcourse, with Manidhan, MaapiLLai, Kodi parakkudhu etc, every step Rajni took in the late 80's was a step away from me as a fan. But he was quite entertaining/and an actor(this is in retrospect) in the early 80's and I was young enough too to not cultivate the snobbery of later years. Raja Chinna Roja varaikum I was totally on Rajni side. Apoorva SagodharargaL, even without watching it, shook my foundations and MMKR simply swept me off. Adhukkappuram, every single movie post aNNAmalai of Rajni has not done much to revert me in that path. Ironically enough, my father became a theevira Rajni fan with aNNamalai though by Padaiyappa, even he had given up.
Anbukku naan Adimai ellam childhood classic for me :-)
Ranga ellam theatre-la multiple times parthirukken :-)

[P_R]

che...ivvaLavu naaL idhu theriyAma pazhagittOmE :twisted:

Naan by birth-unga


My father was strictly anti-Kamal(and he maintained that until death), so that was a formative influence Even my parents are severly leaned towards the Rajini side of the fence. adhukkAga....naanga ellAm steady-A nippOm. Perhaps that is the reason for my liking Kamal before I appreciated him. The urge to be against-the-grain estra estra

First standard-layE Kamalu-kkAga puraNdu katti sandai pOttirukkEnnA paaththukkungaLEn.That of course was my last களப்பணி. Rajni fans, rough fellows you know. :P

My cousin had a huge crush on Kamal and she'd watch milE sur song for that passing shot of him by the sea. I still think it is the most handsome Indian face captured on camera. 'kaNNula kalAchAra balam' theriyum.

Right vidunga....aanaa oru kELvi to test your moral fibre: Raja Chinna Roja-kku neenga whistle adichcheengaLA ?

[Plum]

"Raja Chinna Roja-kku neenga whistle adichcheengaLA ?
"
Illai, podhuvave whistel-adikkara fan illai. Appakku theater managers neraiya peru romba close-a theriyuumgaradhala neraiya padam pala murai paarkum vaaippu irundhadhu. Box-la dhaan paarpen - class fan you know:-)
The logic behind not seeing AS was"Enakku kamal pudikkadhu, kamal padam pudikkadhu, aana AS paartha pudichidumonu bayama irukku".
kaLappaNi ellam chance-e illai. I am a pacifist. But the problem with it is rendu camp-um ennaiya serka maatainga - rendu perukkum naan opposite camp-o-nu doubt irukkum
With this confession, HUB-leyum adhe nilamai uruvaagidumonu bayama irukku

[Plum]

"Raja Chinna Roja-kku neenga whistle adichcheengaLA ?
"
Illai, podhuvave whistel-adikkara fan illai. Appakku theater managers neraiya peru romba close-a theriyuumgaradhala neraiya padam pala murai paarkum vaaippu irundhadhu. Box-la dhaan paarpen - appove class fan you know, whistle-lam kedyaadhu:-)
The logic behind not seeing AS was"Enakku kamal pudikkadhu, kamal padam pudikkadhu, aana AS paartha pudichidumonu bayama irukku".
kaLappaNi ellam chance-e illai. I am a pacifist. But the problem with it is rendu camp-um ennaiya serka maatainga - rendu perukkum naan opposite camp-o-nu doubt irukkum
With this confession, HUB-leyum adhe nilamai uruvaagidumonu bayama irukku

[crajkumar_be]

Non-Rajni fan-a? yaara paarthu...
Naanlam veerappa Apoorva SagodharargaL theatre-la paarkama irundhavan theriyuma?
(kadavuLe, indha post-ai CR padikkama irukkanum)
Aboorva Sagodharargal BGM playing (not the register office one. I'm talking about the "Sethupathy-breaking-the-scackles" theme)

:shock: :x :evil: :(

[crajkumar_be]

"But dramatic is because the scenes which require him to be more composed when emoting he makes it look mega-serial like with his over the top emotions. There have been scenes where he has been composed but the instances are too glaring to consider him accomplished in such circumstances"
- AE before the cLimOks (Vivek appadi thaan solraaru)
Thambi Suriya koottaalinga vandhu election la thothuttom nu kalaippaanga, apparam avarukke mild-a doubt vandhu purinjuppaaru, avingalum sirichiduvaanga. Remba nalla panniruppaaru andha scene la and i suspect Mani Sir's hand in that too

His performance in that film on the whole was :thumbsup:

[P_R]

I'm talking about the "Sethupathy-breaking-the-scackles" theme)


:lol:

AnjAsingam MarudhupAndi to Jaishankar: நடந்தவைகள் நடந்தவைகளாக இருக்கட்டும்... இனி நடப்பவை நல்லவைகளாக இருக்கட்டும்..... அந்த கொடியெல்லாம் வீசி எறிஞ்சிட்டு, உண்டியலை அப்படியே நம்ம பையண்ட குடுத்துட்டு கட்சில வந்து சேர்ந்துக்குங்க

[crajkumar_be]

"உண்டியலை அப்படியே நம்ம பையண்ட குடுத்துட்டு கட்சில வந்து சேர்ந்துக்குங்க"
:rotfl3:

I always get confused between V.Segar and KR.
Whoever it is that made these "series" films deserves a place next to Kannagi Silai

[P_R]

apparam avarukke mild-a doubt vandhu purinjuppaaru, avingalum sirichiduvaanga. Remba nalla panniruppaaru andha scene la :yes:

That's one film he tried to be cool and managed to be.
Light-a chromosome ellAm konjam overA pEsuvApple but that scene one is more busy hating Esha Deol anyway (pachchai paavam :x :x :x )

[P_R]

I always get confused between V.Segar and KR.Whoever it is that made these "series" films deserves a place next to Kannagi Silai
V.Segar it is.
KaNNagi silai is also from V.Segar by the way. viralukkEththa veekkam IIRC.

[Plum]

Non-Rajni fan-a? yaara paarthu...
Naanlam veerappa Apoorva SagodharargaL theatre-la paarkama irundhavan theriyuma?
(kadavuLe, indha post-ai CR padikkama irukkanum)
Aboorva Sagodharargal BGM playing (not the register office one. I'm talking about the "Sethupathy-breaking-the-scackles" theme)

:shock: :x :evil: :(
romba oLarittenO?
sari, sari, uNdiyalai payaanta kodukkaren :-)

[Plum]

"But dramatic is because the scenes which require him to be more composed when emoting he makes it look mega-serial like with his over the top emotions. There have been scenes where he has been composed but the instances are too glaring to consider him accomplished in such circumstances"
- AE before the cLimOks (Vivek appadi thaan solraaru)
Thambi Suriya koottaalinga vandhu election la thothuttom nu kalaippaanga, apparam avarukke mild-a doubt vandhu purinjuppaaru, avingalum sirichiduvaanga. Remba nalla panniruppaaru andha scene la and i suspect Mani Sir's hand in that too

His performance in that film on the whole was :thumbsup:

Illai, people's problem with Surya's emotional scenes seem to be based on Aaru, Vel, Ghajini and his lesser movies in general.
vEl-la, confrontation scene with Lakshmi and co. on knowing vEl is his brother - :rotfl: dhaan nejamaave.
Generallave, Surya < Vijay in vijay-type movies-ngaradhu uNmaidhaan. Idhai thaan makkaL vera vera maadhiri solraanga. Oppukka vendiyadhu dhaan.
Enakkennaanna, Madhvan's emotional scenes in RUN(as PR pointed out), even Aidha Ezhuthu kooda romba efffective-a irundha maadhiri gnabagam illai. CR alladhu PR idhu pathi ezhudhina therinjukkuven...

[P_R]

Madhavan was very much effective in aayidha ezuththu. Despite the accent I found him pretty convincing. That was his most emotional scene in the film. He was the best part of the movie for me

[Vivasaayi]

plum

adhenna vijay type movies???

if it is masala movies or rajni type movies...vijay has one of the funniiest dialoue delivery in those movies and doesnt have charisma as well.

vikram on the other hand has a good dialogue delivery for a mass movie and ajith carries the charisma.

vijay nalla daance aaduvapla...ambututhen

[Sarna]

vijay nalla daance aaduvapla.

innikku raajasthan paalaivanaththula mazhai peyyumungO :P

[Nerd]

Maddy masala padangaL-la vENA funny-A irunthirukkalaam but maththavanga serious padathula kooda unintentional comedy pannirukkAnga :lol2:

A few pages back someone was saying they find Vikram-Anniyan performance being praised very irritating. I find people praising KK/VA/Ghajini performances doubly irritating :twisted: :evil:

Idhai pathi thEvaiyaana aLavu pEsiyaachchu-nu ninaikkirEn!

[Nerd]

Btw Plum vanmaiyaana kaNdanam. Neenga enga side venaam. Avinga side-E irunga. Irunthaalum Ranga multiple times, Ganguvaa etc. ellathukku oru :clap:

[Plum]

adhukku dhaan thread stagnate aayidichu
Maddy/Surya patri thevaiyana aLavukku alasi vittadhal, adutha candidateku povom

So far conclusion, Surya and Maddy both are strong candidates for this thread. reNdu pakkamum kalaachara balam theriyudhu...
Who next? Nerd, suggest

[P_R]

Oh ! andha aLavukkA. :?

VA Old man-A ? illai impetuous youngster kooda irritating-A ?

[Plum]

Btw Plum vanmaiyaana kaNdanam. Neenga enga side venaam. Avinga side-E irunga.

ennatha, avaingaLum idhe dhan solla porainga. Idhellam school-days-lerundhu ipdi nadula maattindu muzhikkaren. Oru koLgaina pidippoda irukka mudiyaradhillai...

[crajkumar_be]

KK performance has been over-bashed!

Run, Vivek comedy thavira padathula vera onuum illa and Meera Jasmine is in my acid list

Maddy, convincing-a thaane panniyirundhaaru, i mean within that framework...

[Plum]

PR, old man ore oru scene dhaan parthen. Andha drug song paatu nadula kadhavai thirandhu etti paarjaradhu - avlo mosamAva irundhudhu - ellorum kachu kachunu kaacharainga?

[crajkumar_be]

Oh ! andha aLavukkA. :?

VA Old man-A ? illai impetuous youngster kooda irritating-A ?
I wonder how many old man performances in TFI have been found to be commendable by this thiruchabai?

When it comes to Suriya, most of those who criticize him, ennamo oru inam puriyaadha veruppu avar mela, more than his acting or whatever.. illa oru vela naama "ethi vidradhu" pudikkalayo?

[littlemaster1982]

Oh ! andha aLavukkA. :?

VA Old man-A ? illai impetuous youngster kooda irritating-A ?
I wonder how many old man performances in TFI have been found to be commendable by this thiruchabai?

Manadhodu Mazhaikkalam - Shaam :P

[equanimus]

Oh ! andha aLavukkA. :?

VA Old man-A ? illai impetuous youngster kooda irritating-A ?
I wonder how many old man performances in TFI have been found to be commendable by this thiruchabai?

Manadhodu Mazhaikkalam - Shaam :P
:rotfl:

[P_R]

PR, old man ore oru scene dhaan parthen. Andha drug song paatu nadula kadhavai thirandhu etti paarjaradhu - avlo mosamAva irundhudhu - ellorum kachu kachunu kaacharainga? It was not bad at all Plum. But overall the performance had many edgy scenes. His gait, walk etc come across as artificial as he gets very old. So I can kinda understand when people find it irritating.

Just curious to know if Nerd found even the younger version irritating.

btw you haven't seen VA ?!?

[Plum]

KK performance has been over-bashed!

Run, Vivek comedy thavira padathula vera onuum illa and Meera Jasmine is in my acid list

Maddy, convincing-a thaane panniyirundhaaru, i mean within that framework...
Theriyalainga, enakku RUN outstanding-a oNNum gnabagam illai Maddy performance, Aiye parRa, oru masala padathula, action padathula summa pinnittanba-nu solraa maadhiri edhuvum gnabagam illaingaren. sila pala edangaLla, PR quote paNNa mAdhiri sirippu kooda vandhadhu.
As for Meera, :shake_hands:walk_off:

[Nerd]

Oh ! andha aLavukkA. :?

VA Old man-A ? illai impetuous youngster kooda irritating-A ?
Old man suththam. Son was good but nothing special(IMHO) I hate them because the critics and the fublic love them sooo much and I don't think they deserve it. Old man sivaji ganesan mAdhirinellAm :cry: Anyway surya versatile-nu naanum sollotten, just the order varies.

Convincing old man get-ups: Sivaji, Kamal, Rajini (Nallavanukku Nallavan)

Next: Dhanush or Bharath?

[Plum]

PR, old man ore oru scene dhaan parthen. Andha drug song paatu nadula kadhavai thirandhu etti paarjaradhu - avlo mosamAva irundhudhu - ellorum kachu kachunu kaacharainga? It was not bad at all Plum. But overall the performance had many edgy scenes. His gait, walk etc come across as artificial as he gets very old. So I can kinda understand when people find it irritating.

Just curious to know if Nerd found even the younger version irritating.

btw you haven't seen VA ?!?
illainga, andha aLavukku surya mela veRi illeengo!
I found the premise as I got to know quite unappealing

[P_R]

As for Meera, :shake_hands:walk_off:
Today has been a day of descending-in-our-eyes for you. :-)

[Plum]

As for Meera, :shake_hands:walk_off:
Today has been a day of descending-in-our-eyes for you. :-)

thalaikku mele veLLam ponAl, sAN enna mozham enna...
(innum pala matter irukku - adhellam ketta public-a disown paNNiduveenga...)

[P_R]

Next: Dhanush or Bharath?

Dhanush not versatile 'ngrEn

He is a pretty good actor but has not done many different roles/situations has he ?

[Plum]

good, Dhanush is the candidate. start meesic...

[Nerd]

1. Ability to blend into the film, irrespective of the film's milieu, mood, theme, setting
A little weak in this area because he hasn't really chosen a variety of roles. But from whatever he has done he was able to blend easily.
2. Variety of roles - not sure what this means though - let's say ability to emote a range of emotions
Range of emotions - PudhuppEttai. A multi dimensional role with ample scope for performance. Did very well. And was great in comedy and action in Pollaathavan.
3. Should we bring in ability to do any accent.
Manages Chennai thamizh very well. He hasn't gone out of chennai has he!
Other points
Acting in two films under pretty good directors :)
Ease of performance:
Again I have to go back to PP and P. I think he was very convincing in P without trying too hard and was very convincing in PP trying too hard. But the best part is the efforts dint show. Not sure if that made sense.
Comedy:
I think he is also a natural. Was pretty good in pollAthavan. Have not seen TA and padikkAthavan, someone plis fill in.
Presence.
Not bad with the kind of baadi he has.
Low point:
Very few noteworthy performances so far. PudhuppEttai, PollAdhavan and a decent kAdhal kondEn.

[crajkumar_be]

"a decent kAdhal kondEn."
:shock: I protest

[Nerd]

"a decent kAdhal kondEn."
:shock: I protest
Decent-kkE protest-A?
- The scene in which the second keero proposes to Sonia
- The scenes in sonia's house
- Most of the college scenes
- The scene in which he kills Nagesh
- Manasu reNdum pArkka (the lust)

[Nerd]

Congrats Plum on becoming a veteran hubber :2thumbsup: innum pala pudhumaiyaana thirigal ethirpArkkirOm!

[Plum]

Nerd, neenga solli dhaan naane paarthen. jodhila aikyamaitten.
To self:
*innuma indha ooru nammala nambikittu irukku
or
* ipdi usupethi ethiye raNa kaLam aakidaraingappa

[directhit]

Next: Dhanush :2thumbsup:

Have not seen TA :shock: enna neenga, watch it soon i say :noteeth:

[littlemaster1982]

Next: Dhanush :2thumbsup:

Have not seen TA :shock: enna neenga, watch it soon i say :noteeth:

Shreya was :oops:

[Vivasaayi]

Congrats Plum on becoming a veteran hubber :2thumbsup: innum pala pudhumaiyaana thirigal ethirpArkkirOm!

naan avarukku oru korikkai vechen..badhilaye kanom

[directhit]

// dig - LM : neenga sariyilla. edhukeduthaalum paathu mudichittu oops icon poda vendiyadhu :evil: //

[Plum]

Congrats Plum on becoming a veteran hubber :2thumbsup: innum pala pudhumaiyaana thirigal ethirpArkkirOm!

naan avarukku oru korikkai vechen..badhilaye kanom
enna vivs, ipdi gundu thooki podareenga? Eppo?

[Nerd]

LM yEn shreyA pArthu vekkappadraar? :lol2: naan 2-3 saangs pAthurukkEn, apdi onnum.. sari sari padathai pAthudrEn..

[Vivasaayi]

Congrats Plum on becoming a veteran hubber :2thumbsup: innum pala pudhumaiyaana thirigal ethirpArkkirOm!

naan avarukku oru korikkai vechen..badhilaye kanom
enna vivs, ipdi gundu thooki podareenga? Eppo?

http://mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=12956&start=660

[Nerd]

Psycho-Analysis of herOyinis apdinu onnu aarambichhar. Adhu flop aayiduchu :P

[Vivasaayi]

Psycho-Analysis of herOyinis apdinu onnu aarambichhar. Adhu flop aayiduchu :P

amama...eq vum ivarum edho pesitu irundhanga...nyabagam irukku..

[Plum]

Vivs, post-modernism thread nane RS kitta riccost vechurukken :-)

Mathabadi, andha thread-lam Oda maatengudhu - as Nerd observed, andha Heroini thread flop aanadhula konham demotivation aayirichi...

[Vivasaayi]

Vivs, post-modernism thread nane RS kitta riccost vechurukken :-)

Mathabadi, andha thread-lam Oda maatengudhu - as Nerd observed, andha Heroini thread flop aanadhula konham demotivation aayirichi...

:)

[littlemaster1982]

LM yEn shreyA pArthu vekkappadraar? :lol2: naan 2-3 saangs pAthurukkEn, apdi onnum.. sari sari padathai pAthudrEn..

Sariyaana emoticon select pannalai :lol: Pattai vida padatthula better :mrgreen:

[VENKIRAJA]

Psycho-Analysis of herOyinis apdinu onnu aarambichhar. Adhu flop aayiduchu :P

amama...eq vum ivarum edho pesitu irundhanga...nyabagam irukku..

Can't control :rotfl:
ivingaLLAm pEsinA padikkaradhE illayA? pAvamyA!

On a sidenote, Korea figure avatAr ellAm over-A pOikittu irukku Hub-la... ithaiyellAm thattikEkka yArumE illayA?

[Sarna]

1. Ability to blend into the film, irrespective of the film's milieu, mood, theme, setting
A little weak in this area because he hasn't really chosen a variety of roles. But from whatever he has done he was able to blend easily.
2. Variety of roles - not sure what this means though - let's say ability to emote a range of emotions
Range of emotions - PudhuppEttai. A multi dimensional role with ample scope for performance. Did very well. And was great in comedy and action in Pollaathavan.
3. Should we bring in ability to do any accent.
Manages Chennai thamizh very well. He hasn't gone out of chennai has he!
Other points
Acting in two films under pretty good directors :)
Ease of performance:
Again I have to go back to PP and P. I think he was very convincing in P without trying too hard and was very convincing in PP trying too hard. But the best part is the efforts dint show. Not sure if that made sense.
Comedy:
I think he is also a natural. Was pretty good in pollAthavan. Have not seen TA and padikkAthavan, someone plis fill in.
Presence.
Not bad with the kind of baadi he has.
Low point:
Very few noteworthy performances so far. PudhuppEttai, PollAdhavan and a decent kAdhal kondEn.

:bow: :bow: nammaalukku ivlO aadharavu irukkumnu edhirpaarkkala :) :ty:

TA paarunga.. chummaa kalakkO kalakkunu kalakki irukkaapla :redjump: :redjump:

Padikkadhavan - just watch Dhanush and Tamanna portions only 8-)

DK, YNM ellaam paakkalayaa ??

[app_engine]

Another facet of versatality (of PD) :-)
http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=492339&disdate=6/6/2009

[HonestRaj]

Unlike others, there is no sense of "look ma I am acting". No self-conscious performance.

Sivaji & MGR .......

who among these 2 makes u all to think that I am acting.... :lol:

so sad..... biased .. biased.. forward bias / reverse bias.... ella hubber-um thanaku pidicha hero-than versatile-nu solranga..... :clap: :clap:

[Sanguine Sridhar]

Honestu,

Namma annan thaan unmayile versatile. Enna character thaan pannala? 8-)

[HonestRaj]

Honestu,

Namma annan thaan unmayile versatile. Enna character thaan pannala? 8-)

:exactly:

idha sonna nammala paithiyakkaran-nu solluvanga.. edhukkunu summa chinna chinna post mattum padikkiradhoda sari

[Vivasaayi]

Unlike others, there is no sense of "look ma I am acting". No self-conscious performance.

Sivaji & MGR .......

who among these 2 makes u all to think that I am acting.... :lol:

so sad..... biased .. biased.. forward bias / reverse bias.... ella hubber-um thanaku pidicha hero-than versatile-nu solranga..... :clap: :clap:

attagasamana kelvi

[Anban]

Unlike others, there is no sense of "look ma I am acting". No self-conscious performance.

Sivaji & MGR .......

who among these 2 makes u all to think that I am acting.... :lol:

so sad..... biased .. biased.. forward bias / reverse bias.... ella hubber-um thanaku pidicha hero-than versatile-nu solranga..... :clap: :clap:

attagasamana kelvi bathil varaathu.. so kettu use illai

[Nerd]

DK, YNM ellaam paakkalayaa ??
illeeng. :oops: YNM first 1 hour pArthEn.. Dint like it.

[Vivasaayi]

DK, YNM ellaam paakkalayaa ??
illeeng. :oops: YNM first 1 hour pArthEn.. Dint like it.

nalladhu!!

second halfla herovoda friendu avaru kattikka pora ponnoda azhaga varnichu herova paada solluvaru

[Avadi to America]

DK, YNM ellaam paakkalayaa ??
illeeng. :oops: YNM first 1 hour pArthEn.. Dint like it.


koduramana padunga......itha eppadi telugula selva direct pannapplanu theriyala

[venkkiram]

List of actors ..

Delhi Ganesh
Pasupathi
Nagesh
Kamal
Rajini
Vikram
Nasser
Satyaraj
Surya
Parthiban
Prakash Raj

[Murali Srinivas]

Karthik,

You have selectively taken Rakesh's one sentence from that post and quoted it here. So many people have answered this question many times, and we can answer this again if you want. But don't want to start something which would hurt many. Why Sivaji's name is unnecessarily dragged here?

Karthik (Anban),

Didn't expect this from you.

Regards

[Anban]

Karthik (Anban),

Didn't expect this from you.

Regards Murali sir,

My comment was targeted at the hypocrisy in the bias we have towards our favourites. It has nothing to do with my perception or opinion about NT/MGR

[groucho070]

1. Ability to blend into the film, irrespective of the film's milieu, mood, theme, setting
A little weak in this area because he hasn't really chosen a variety of roles. But from whatever he has done he was able to blend easily.
2. Variety of roles - not sure what this means though - let's say ability to emote a range of emotions
Range of emotions - PudhuppEttai. A multi dimensional role with ample scope for performance. Did very well. And was great in comedy and action in Pollaathavan.
3. Should we bring in ability to do any accent.
Manages Chennai thamizh very well. He hasn't gone out of chennai has he!
Other points
Acting in two films under pretty good directors :)
Ease of performance:
Again I have to go back to PP and P. I think he was very convincing in P without trying too hard and was very convincing in PP trying too hard. But the best part is the efforts dint show. Not sure if that made sense.
Comedy:
I think he is also a natural. Was pretty good in pollAthavan. Have not seen TA and padikkAthavan, someone plis fill in.
Presence.
Not bad with the kind of baadi he has.
Low point:
Very few noteworthy performances so far. PudhuppEttai, PollAdhavan and a decent kAdhal kondEn.I am backing this man's point. Especially the baadi part :lol:

Nerd, Simran :evil: vishayam tavira matta vishayattula otrumaiyaa irukkoom. :D

[Plum]

Murali, great to see you in this thread. Neenga varutha padadheenga, naanga pathukkaeom. Sivaji peyar edutha indha thread close panna vendi varunbu munnadiye nd or 3rd pagelaye solli irundhaen. Pasanga konjam thudukku...

[Sarna]

Plum.... with all due respect.... idhaththaan bias'in uchcha nilainu solvaanga :)

Murali sir, <<< we can answer this again if you want >>> PM pls :)

[Plum]

Plum.... with all due respect.... idhaththaan bias'in uchcha nilainu solvaanga :)

Murali sir, <<< we can answer this again if you want >>> PM pls :)

Ennatha solla - Sivaji is teh very definition of versatility. When you talk about him, you can expand the definition of versatility we put here, and expand it to include further parameters, and still he'll come up trumps. Edho indha thread-kaga, we limited the requirements for versatility - illaina Dhanush pathi ellam indha thread-la discuss kooda paNNi irukka mudiyadhu.

Versatility - the ability to express a range of emotions in a range of styles - from a stage melodramatic stlye to neo-realistic style,a nd the whole damn range of styles in between. Porumaiya aarainijineenganna you'll get an example for everything from NT's ouevre.

For this thread's purpose, I diluted the definition to "ability to express a range of emotional states of character in any style that is achievable by the said actor . Idhukke oruthar kooda muzhu manasa, perumbanmaiya theralai.

People say Madhavan is at ease etc- but did he succeed much when he went out of his natural style - limited - adhukke avarai versatile thilagam-nu inge...
Surya - a different set of hubbers give the same reasoning for Surya's versatility as Maddy fan hubbers give maddy. But broadly, we all agreed that both are quite limited.

And then we have to talk about Sivaji Ganesan, who can not only emote a range, but in different styles? Avarala Maddy style of acting-la emote pannavum mudiyum. Surya style-layum mudiyum. S

You go and read Murali Srinivas's chronicles - there are movies(paasa malar, Pudhiya paravai) where he prepared for acting, and did a prep style there. There are scores of movies where he just landed up in the sets, and proceeded to be at ease as the character. Idhellaam, vera evankuum mukkinalum varadhu.

If you talk about method acting, spontaneous acting etc, you bring in whatever theories you want - we'll show you how/when Sivaji achieved that, even probably not knowing the theory behind it.
Idhu bais-na, I am proud to be biased.

[groucho070]

Plum, as you may already know I am with you. As Joe had said, "NT is king of acting, overacting, underacting, whatever acting you want".


By the way, I never said Madhavan is very versatile. I have said before that he had his limitations (see also his thread). I said that he is a fine actor.

Versatile-na, anyone can be versatile. But the kosteen is, can they do it well? Madhavan's ability is that he is able to transcend many genres. Athu oru form of versatility-na, then he is. But after the seniors, I don't see any actor who completely proven us their versatility. Madhavan comes close, that's all.

[Sarna]

Plum, u misunderstood me :oops: sivaji'ya paththi ingEy pEsakkoodaadhu'nra maadhiri sonneengala, adhukkudhaan apdi(bias) sonnEn :) maththabadi vEra onnum illa :)

In general, Versatility'ku sariyaana definition therinjukkanum'naa Sivaji ganesar'oda ellaappadaththayum paaththirukkanum/paakkanum 8-)

even the "Look ma, I am acting" statement at NT is codswallop :evil:

[Plum]

What I had earlier stated and what I meant above, Sarna, was that if we bring in Sivaji, matter will be over. Adhukkappuram Discussion-ndara pechukke idam illai, others lose deposit. I have no issues discussing that - in fact, it might pave the way for prodding groucho, especially, into continuing the discussion he started long back on method acting etc, and comparisions of sivaji with certain acclaimed international actors.

[crajkumar_be]

Plum,
If i understood right, the point Vikki was making was not that of questioning Nadigar Thilagam's versatility or greatness but rather the bias against this so-called "look ma i'm acting".
NT-ellam indha thread la konduvara vendiya avasiyam illa for obvious reasons (and Kamal fans naanga Kamal-a pathiyum adha thaan solluvom). That's besides the point.
The thing is, if one were to apply the "look ma i'm acting" rule, the first round of casualties would be guru-sishyan NT-Kamal. Again, let us not please get into a NT vs Kamal mode but the point is, there will not be a single *versatile* actor who will pass.

Abhay Deol was "natural, and "spontaneous" in Oye Lucky and DevD. Those seem to be his comfort zone roles. One has to see him try different stuff. Like i already said, the last thing one would say about Madhavan's performance in say ND is "natural" or DLMINA. The end result is whether we think an actor is good and convincing or not. Illena everybody has to play Clint Eastwood, irrespective of the role, to earn the honors of DLMINA

And as Groucho himself has quoted Joe as saying. "NT is the king of underacting, overacting, controlled acting" etc, thats is exactly my point. It depends on the role.

[P_R]

Plum,
................. (and Kamal fans naanga Kamal-a pathiyum adha thaan solluvom). :)

[crajkumar_be]

Plum,
................. (and Kamal fans naanga Kamal-a pathiyum adha thaan solluvom). :)
:lol:
Ada, oru safety ku appadi sonnen-ga, context karudhi.. idhukkum avar vera thread la confess pannadhukkum sammandham illai :razz:

[Plum]

CR, I dont differ. But Vivs' point was kind of re-interpreted or mis-interpreted into somethign else. Both Kamal and NT, and even Rajni, infact, we all agreed that we dont have to bring them here in the context of this thread. AvangaLai, koNdu vandha, Dhanush, Maddy, Surya ellam discuss panna mudiyadhupa :-(

Yes, I am with Vivs on the bias against "LMIA" school. I am not concerned with that as much as the results - biggest example, Vikram's Sithan, which most of "LMIA" critics discount. You see only PR and myself defending that performance - I dont care if Vikram was trying to show he can "Act"; that role worked in that movie, and he contributed in a big way to that. Watch Upendra in Kannada version to see how the performer can let that role down. OTOH, Kasi by Vikram was "LMIA" and unsuccesful. For me, ease and natural performance doesnt matter much unless it adds to or fits in the film in question.

The way I look at it, you can broadly divide into
1> LMIA but succesful - Sithan; Many people quote Inbasekar for this though it didnt work for me so let's pencil him in here despite my reservations. I'd pencil in ND here - it worked for me though Maddy tried hard and was not 'at ease' or whatever.
2> LMIA but not so succesful - Thambivelu, Surya in parts in most of his 'masala' performances(like Agarkar, thambi rendu wicket eduppapla, paartha adutha rendu ball sixer parakkum)
3> DLMINA and succesful - fill this in yourself; As PR mentioned before, Maddy as Bottle Mani was an example of this. I'd probably prefer that performance by Maddy to many of his acclaimed ones. Anbarasu is another example.
4> DLMINA but not quite appreciable or outstanding - for me, Maddy in many movies does fall here; RUN, for example. Maybe he is at ease etc but what do I get as cinematic output from that ease? Nothing.

I'm not particularly worried about the method as long as it is succesful.

Ok, what I'm driving at is one cannot let oneself biased by preference of style of acting(easy, natural AGAINST effort, LMIA) to dictate evaluating whether a performance is good or not.

[Plum]

Plum,
................. (and Kamal fans naanga Kamal-a pathiyum adha thaan solluvom). :)

oruthat teknik-a communicate pandraar. innoruthar teknik-a purinjukkarar. bada killadi pasangapa...

[Plum]

Illena everybody has to play Clint Eastwood , irrespective of the role, to earn the honors of DLMINA

vara vara CR post ellam romba notice paNNa dhaan nuances puriyudhu. Enge vishayam vekkararne konja nerathukkappuram dhaan veLangudhu. Edhavadhu maaruveshathula workshop attend paNNitty vandheengala CR?

[Vivasaayi]

exactly CR :)

I never commented about the ability of the actor..but on the consistency of the fans.

[Sarna]

consistency of the fans'na ?

[Vivasaayi]

consistency of the fans'na ?

consistency of the fans

[Sarna]

consistency of the fans'na ?

consistency of the fans

:evil:

[Vivasaayi]

consistency of the fans'na ?

consistency of the fans

:evil:

doesnt motor!

[MADDY]

Plum,
If i understood right, the point Vikki was making was not that of questioning Nadigar Thilagam's versatility or greatness but rather the bias against this so-called "look ma i'm acting".
NT-ellam indha thread la konduvara vendiya avasiyam illa for obvious reasons (and Kamal fans naanga Kamal-a pathiyum adha thaan solluvom). That's besides the point.
The thing is, if one were to apply the "look ma i'm acting" rule, the first round of casualties would be guru-sishyan NT-Kamal. Again, let us not please get into a NT vs Kamal mode but the point is, there will not be a single *versatile* actor who will pass

as far as i know - Sivaji and kamal were LMIA genre but they showed us many things with their ability.........surya just says LMIA but verum kaathu dhaanga varudhu :lol2: ..........thats the difference.........even jaishankar of yesteryears was a LMIA candidate - most of the old heroes were, adhukaaga avanga ellarayum criticise pannaama vida mudiyuma.......surya has got into this mode too early - trying to showcase himself as nest kamal or sivaji just like vishal/simbhu have this temptation of becoming nest rajini within 4 movies :D this is like saying, sampras and roddick had big serves, so do not criticse big servers like roddick cos sampras would be hurt too :P

[Sarna]

consistency of the fans'na ?

consistency of the fans

:evil:

doesnt motor!

avvvvvvvv (http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/sep-08-03/images/vadivelu-21-09-08.jpg)

[crajkumar_be]

Plum,
If i understood right, the point Vikki was making was not that of questioning Nadigar Thilagam's versatility or greatness but rather the bias against this so-called "look ma i'm acting".
NT-ellam indha thread la konduvara vendiya avasiyam illa for obvious reasons (and Kamal fans naanga Kamal-a pathiyum adha thaan solluvom). That's besides the point.
The thing is, if one were to apply the "look ma i'm acting" rule, the first round of casualties would be guru-sishyan NT-Kamal. Again, let us not please get into a NT vs Kamal mode but the point is, there will not be a single *versatile* actor who will pass

as far as i know - Sivaji and kamal were LMIA genre but they showed us many things with their ability.........surya just says LMIA but verum kaathu dhaanga varudhu :lol2: ..........thats the difference.........even jaishankar of yesteryears was a LMIA candidate - most of the old heroes were, adhukaaga avanga ellarayum criticise pannaama vida mudiyuma.......surya has got into this mode too early - trying to showcase himself as nest kamal or sivaji just like vishal/simbhu have this temptation of becoming nest rajini within 4 movies :D this is like saying, sampras and roddick had big serves, so do not criticse big servers like roddick cos sampras would be hurt too :P
Maddy
Whether an actor is good or bad is important, not whether he is LMIA or DLMINA - idhu engal karuthu.
adhavadhu, engala poruthavaraikkum, "Suriya nadippu velaikke avalaye" nu solradhu onnu, "Suriya always does LMIA and because of that he is unselected" nu solradhu vera.
Also, Suriya is not 100% LMIA and neither is Maddy 100% DLMINA. In fact, most of whom we consider have this and that in varying proportion. All IMO, of course :)

[P_R]

DLMINA definition maaRip pOchchu.

Anyway


surya has got into this mode too early - trying to showcase himself as nest kamal or sivaji Early-a. Very late. mudhal 6 varusham riding horse within fat-pot. Neenga innum oru 10 varushaththukku adhaiyE paNNittu adhukkappuram venture-out paNNi irukkalaamnu solveenga pOla.


surya just says LMIA but verum kaathu dhaanga varudhu :lol2:


sampras and roddick had big serves, so do not criticse big servers like roddick cos sampras would be hurt too No. There was a good reason why Sivaji and Kamal were excluded from this argument. Of course no-one in the current crop will match up to them.

Surya-vukkE "kAththu dhaan varudhu"nnE vachchukkuvOm.... appo michcha pErukku kAththu kooda vErala. Dead silent-A irukku. appidinnu dhaan solla mudiyum.

[crajkumar_be]

"Surya-vukkE "kAththu dhaan varudhu"nnE vachchukkuvOm.... appo michcha pErukku kAththu kooda vErala. Dead silent-A irukku. appidinnu dhaan solla mudiyum."
- Adhaane!

[Vivasaayi]

pr,

adhana!

edho suryavukku kaathavadhu varudhe...!

[crajkumar_be]

"DLMINA definition maaRip pOchchu. "
- Eppadi eppadi eppadi?

[equanimus]

And let's also not take the let's-keep-the-stalwarts-out-of-the-discussion school of thought too far. It's not like Kamal or Sivaji were dishing out one great performance after another!

[crajkumar_be]

And let's also not take the let's-keep-the-stalwarts-out-of-the-discussion school of thought too far. It's not like Kamal or Sivaji were dishing out one great performance after another!
Manu irukkudha?
I mean adhukku oru thread open pannikkalaam. Versatility pathi inga naama alasaradhunaala avinga rendu perayum izhukkaama irukkardhu dhaane nyayam?

[Plum]

pr,

adhana!

edho suryavukku kaathavadhu varudhe...!
Indha pechu konjam abaayamana dhisai nOkki payanithu kondirukkiradhu. Toilet Jokes varathukkunnadi niruthikuvom :-)

[Plum]

And let's also not take the let's-keep-the-stalwarts-out-of-the-discussion school of thought too far. It's not like Kamal or Sivaji were dishing out one great performance after another!
Apdi yaarum sollaliye Eq. Kamal and Sivaji were versatile by any definition of the term - illaingareengala? I'd include Rajni, too, in that list.(Though PR and CR will exterminate me from sangam for this :-) ).
The only reason I'd discuss them here is to expound on some theories regarding their acting - like addressing their acting school-by-school and seeing which of their performances fit where. Adhukku thani thread dhaan podaNum. I intend to do it - but ungaLai maadhiri periyavanga aadharavu veNum.

[crajkumar_be]

Kamal and Sivaji were versatile by any definition of the term - illaingareengala? I'd include Rajni, too, in that list.(Though PR and CR will exterminate me from sangam for this :-) ).
.
Shammikkanum! Ennudaya versatile list la yerkanave Rajini peru irukkunga... aana unconditional list la irukkaadhu

[P_R]

"DLMINA definition maaRip pOchchu. "
- Eppadi eppadi eppadi?

DLMINA (I thought) originally meant DLM I can't Act.
Now it has morphed to nadikkuradhu theriyAma suBtle-A nadikkiradhu. Which is fine. We need this definition more than we need that one.

[equanimus]

And let's also not take the let's-keep-the-stalwarts-out-of-the-discussion school of thought too far. It's not like Kamal or Sivaji were dishing out one great performance after another!
Manu irukkudha?
I mean adhukku oru thread open pannikkalaam. Versatility pathi inga naama alasaradhunaala avinga rendu perayum izhukkaama irukkardhu dhaane nyayam?
:) oththukkaREn, but my point was, I wouldn't say Surya is incomparably inferior to them. Or Madhavan for that matter. I'm not talking about versatility per se, just their worth as actors.

[P_R]

Indha pechu konjam abaayamana dhisai nOkki payanithu kondirukkiradhu. Toilet Jokes varathukkunnadi niruthikuvom :-) Naanum konja naaLaavE paakkurEn (NKNP henceforth)

[P_R]

Though PR and CR will exterminate me from sangam for this :-)
adhaan illai.
You see enga side open-minded.... unga side-u maadhiri illai.

[hattori_hanzo]

Plum,
If i understood right, the point Vikki was making was not that of questioning Nadigar Thilagam's versatility or greatness but rather the bias against this so-called "look ma i'm acting".
NT-ellam indha thread la konduvara vendiya avasiyam illa for obvious reasons (and Kamal fans naanga Kamal-a pathiyum adha thaan solluvom). That's besides the point.
The thing is, if one were to apply the "look ma i'm acting" rule, the first round of casualties would be guru-sishyan NT-Kamal. Again, let us not please get into a NT vs Kamal mode but the point is, there will not be a single *versatile* actor who will pass

as far as i know - Sivaji and kamal were LMIA genre but they showed us many things with their ability.........surya just says LMIA but verum kaathu dhaanga varudhu :lol2: ..........thats the difference.........even jaishankar of yesteryears was a LMIA candidate - most of the old heroes were, adhukaaga avanga ellarayum criticise pannaama vida mudiyuma.......surya has got into this mode too early - trying to showcase himself as nest kamal or sivaji just like vishal/simbhu have this temptation of becoming nest rajini within 4 movies :D this is like saying, sampras and roddick had big serves, so do not criticse big servers like roddick cos sampras would be hurt too :P

//surya just says LMIA but verum kaathu dhaanga varudhu :lol2://
Pithamagan, Perazhagan, VA, Ghajini - If these are the movies which you feel he tried acting and 'Kaathu Varala', i would say he did a pretty good job in all these. I cant imagine Madhavan, Dhanush or any other actor in such diverse characters, which is why probably they were'nt asked to do such roles :roll:. AE'la, given a mass role, Madhavan could have made Surya look like Nerukku Ner Surya, but IMO he didnt make much use of the opportunity - maybe because he finds it very difficult to speak Chennai Thamizh. Innumum ella padathulayum adhey accent (note the way he says 'Agriculture' in Thambi or 'Address' in few movies - Guna padathula Kamal MMKR-Madhan madhiri English pesiyirundha ippidi dhaan irundhirukkum). Just compare it with Surya's mannerisms and dialogue delivery in movies like Aaru, Nandha.

Surya isnt a great actor but he at least shows some traits of a promising performer. Onnume try pannama verum 'masala' or 'chocolate boy' or 'udhavaakkara paiyan' roles'a mattum convincinga panravangalukku konjam different roles nadippavar evalavo mel.

[Plum]

Yov, andha side(Nerd) already disown paNNitangaya. Nenacha madhirye trisangu nelamai vandhiriche...

[P_R]

:) oththukkaREn, but my point was, I wouldn't say Surya is incomparably inferior to them.
Oh he is. In terms of versatility as well as 'depth of performance' (define paNNa solliraadheenga) he has a lot to scale. Of course he is covering ground at a very impressive pace.

[MADDY]

Early-a. Very late. mudhal 6 varusham riding horse within fat-pot. Neenga innum oru 10 varushaththukku adhaiyE paNNittu adhukkappuram venture-out paNNi irukkalaamnu solveenga pOla.

evalavu varusham aanalum, surya cant become them.......he CANT .....i crack up when people say he has taken so much "efforts" to become a great actor......


Surya-vukkE "kAththu dhaan varudhu"nnE vachchukkuvOm.... appo michcha pErukku kAththu kooda vErala. Dead silent-A irukku. appidinnu dhaan solla mudiyum.

puyale adichhalum, adhu rendu varusham, moonu varushathhula poidum-nnu solra makkal tamil makkal...... :P .......ellam vidhi padi thaan nadakkum......if surya is overwhelmingly accepted as nest kamal or sivaji - i would accept that too with a smile..... :)

[MADDY]

Just compare it with Surya's mannerisms and dialogue delivery

yes, i did and thats exactly why i dont rate surya much.......he didnt sweep me off my feet u know :P

[P_R]

evalavu varusham aanalum, surya cant become them.......he CANT ..... appuram yEn too early-nu ellAm solreenga. :lol2:

btw I wasn't suggesting he would match up to them eventually. I was only referring to your comment that he was trying "too early".

[P_R]

Let us take one cliched TFI yardstick:

mugaththai moodaamal azhuvadhu

The scene at the airport when he returns after losing Sameera. If that is not 'convincing' I wonder what is.

[crajkumar_be]

The scene at the airport when he returns after losing Sameera. If that is not 'convincing' I wonder what is.
Migachariyaana exampuzh

[MADDY]

evalavu varusham aanalum, surya cant become them.......he CANT ..... appuram yEn too early-nu ellAm solreenga. :lol2:

atleast if he had started at a later stage, it wudnt have looked funny :)


mugaththai moodaamal azhuvadhu

adhu seri, naanga ellam edhukku theatre-la irukkom :P ......

[equanimus]

:) oththukkaREn, but my point was, I wouldn't say Surya is incomparably inferior to them.
Oh he is. In terms of versatility as well as 'depth of performance' (define paNNa solliraadheenga) he has a lot to scale. Of course he is covering ground at a very impressive pace.
Yes, and that's where I'm putting my money on. It's always more useful to consider the "potential" than just the "past."

[Avadi to America]

Yarruppa naduvula Clint eastwood ulla ittukittu varathu... a man with multiple S curve in terms of cinematic skill set... A legendery hero and director.... I love him lot after thalivar.

[Vivasaayi]

pr,

adhana!

edho suryavukku kaathavadhu varudhe...!
Indha pechu konjam abaayamana dhisai nOkki payanithu kondirukkiradhu. Toilet Jokes varathukkunnadi niruthikuvom :-)

thonuchu...buplic place apdingradhanala type pannama vituten(control pannitennu sonna naalu peru adhayum kalaipeenga)

[MADDY]

The scene at the airport when he returns after losing Sameera. If that is not 'convincing' I wonder what is.
Migachariyaana exampuzh

CR, AnbeSivam boy death scene - the time he starts closing his ears till the "enna madhiri design" idhu dialogue.......kamal was jus sidelined.......ask surya to share screen space with kamal - hey kiddo take care-dhaan :)

[Vivasaayi]

Kamal and Sivaji were versatile by any definition of the term - illaingareengala? I'd include Rajni, too, in that list.(Though PR and CR will exterminate me from sangam for this :-) ).
.
Shammikkanum! Ennudaya versatile list la yerkanave Rajini peru irukkunga... aana unconditional list la irukkaadhu

rajniya versatle add pandradhu konjam over...

for the past 25 yearsa ore rolethan pandraru..kitta thatta.

early 80s la sila different roles pannaaru..OK..but overalla versatilenu solla mudiyuma?

[Vivasaayi]

The scene at the airport when he returns after losing Sameera. If that is not 'convincing' I wonder what is.
Migachariyaana exampuzh

CR, AnbeSivam boy death scene - the time he starts closing his ears till the "enna madhiri design" idhu dialogue.......kamal was jus sidelined.......ask surya to share screen space with kamal - hey kiddo take care-dhaan :)

andha scene imho kandippa surya nalla pannirupapla

u take away the "urban " factor from that role - surya would be as good as maddy which is ofcourse the best performance of maddy.

[equanimus]

CR, AnbeSivam boy death scene - the time he starts closing his ears till the "enna madhiri design" idhu dialogue.......kamal was jus sidelined.......ask surya to share screen space with kamal - hey kiddo take care-dhaan :)
Maddy,
I can think of quite a few actors who have held their own or outshone Kamal when sharing sharing screen space with him. So I don't agree with the underlying assumption here to begin with.

Anyway, let's take the bottle scene in AE. Did you think Madhavan walked away with that scene? If yes, oNNiyum solRadhukku illai. To me, the scene is superb precisely because of the way Surya and Madhavan match wits against each other.

[P_R]

andha scene imho kandippa surya nalla pannirupapla
absoleetly


good as maddy which is ofcourse the best performance of maddy. absoleetly again

[Plum]

naan evlo mukkinalum, thirumba thirumba Surya-Madhavan panchayathula dhaan idhu nikkudhu...

[Nerd]

AnbE sivathula the scene before the climax as well - Sivam, you are a good man - (not sure about the dialogue). Adhula. 30% kooda surya not fossible. :lol2:

[Plum]

AnbE sivathula the scene before the climax as well - Sivam, you are a good man - (not sure about the dialogue). Adhula. 30% kooda surya not fossible. :lol2:

Anbe Sivam - Surya not possible as a whole package - agree. But that role was made for Maddy - Maddy is naturally savvy. surya could have done some of the emotions but the savvy, the snobbishness, andha immersed-in-his-ignorant-biased-world view I dont think Surya could have matched.
Versatility-nu pechu varache, you are talking of his comfort zone there so it doesnt prove anything in the context of this thread.

Surya pandradhu Maddyala mudiyadhu, maddy pandradhu surya-vala mudiyadhu - idhukku pala examples solla mudiyum. As long as Surya can do a Maddy role in his own way, it should be fine and vice versa.


Personally, while Surya sucked in parts of Vel and Aaru, Maddy apdi andha padangalile parts-layavadhu shine panni irupparungareenga?

[Nerd]

<Dig> A2A, ennadhu idhu? Graphics/Make-up munnAdi edutha photo-va ellAm popularize panna koodAdhu. Snagar thalaivar original color-la varavechiduvaan pOlayE.. Even then indha maadhiri oily looks ellaam :oops: <ends>

[Vivasaayi]

surya would have managed abe sivam definitely...

but think maddy in pithamagan - :lol:

[Nerd]

Plum, aaru vEl, ethiri, ennavaLE ellaam hopeless films (in terms of scope to perform). So adhellaam freeyA vitruvOm. In fact Maddy/Surya rendu peraiyum vitruvOm. Nessst yaarubA?

[Plum]

Vivs, disagree. Maddy was fine in Edhiri. He carried off that role with elan. Again, within his comfort zone - I havent seen Evano Oruvan - that might tell me what Maddy's full range is probably. But andha marathi version of the movie kandraavi paarthu tholaichutten - so tamil-la paarka motivation illai.

ennavaLe - Maddy's own Uyirile Kalandhadu!

[Hulkster]

Just compare Surya's performance in kaaka kaaka with Kamal's in vetteiyaadu vilaiyaadu. We will know what acting is. Like i said Surya can be dramatic in his emotions at times that the flow of the role is gone, but that is if you analyse too much.

1. General Audience - Surya is certainly the next big thing if you try not to analyse his acting skills too much. He does have a presence.

2. Critics - Good but not great. There are alot of artificial or maybe the best word, limitations in his acting skillset that when you want to compare with actors like kamal and rajini, he certainly is not there.

In reality he is already the next big thing, in fact he is one of the few heroes besides kamal and rajini who can pull in housefull shows in singapore. But since we are using our own perception of his talent than anything else, i can safely say he still has a long way to go. Basically he needs to get it right for the sequences that requires him to be more composed.

Madhavan really impresses me more cause he makes the scene look impressive without having to be dramatic. He really makes good use of his body language, expressions in such a way that the scene is quite memorable but we dunt really notice his acting. Most of us here would scratch our heads when we see some of his movies but if you were to carefully look back he is so subtle that the scene does not lose its flow. It does not look impressive on first hand but he just gets himself in the scene without having to enhance it something like how rajini used to do for alot of films.

[Hulkster]

Actually vivs ur using it wrongly. At that time Surya was not known for his comic timing and such a role would have have been ROTFL for us, but bala changed him completely into a entertainer. I am sure Maddy would have done in it his own style.

[Nerd]

Plum I think you meant to address me. Naan ethiri pArkkalai summA oru flow-la vanthuruchu.. :)

[Plum]

nesstu is notionally Dhanush. But people are only interested in Madhavan- Surya!

[Plum]

Plum I think you meant to address me. :)
he he, namakku eppovume indha confusion konjam jaasthinga...

[Vivasaayi]

Actually vivs ur using it wrongly. At that time Surya was not known for his comic timing and such a role would have have been ROTFL for us, but bala changed him completely into a entertainer. I am sure Maddy would have done in it his own style.

bala change pannara maniratnam change panaara apdingradhu vishayam illa

Maddy nala pithamagan panna mudiyumangadhuthan matteru!

[Nerd]

But surya fans don't worry. Surya-va buplic-um sari, critics-um (vijay awards :lol2: )sari engEyO thookkittaanga. Madhavana yaarum madhikkirathillai (except multiplex audience)

[Hulkster]

He can actually, your imagining it in surya's zone so of course it is impossible. But Maddy has his own brand of humour which i am sure if he had done it first you would say surya cant certainly do it.

[Hulkster]

nesstu is notionally Dhanush. But people are only interested in Madhavan- Surya!

I think the most underrated actor after Madhavan. There are people who only started noticing him here after Polladhavan. Before that he was considered so-so. Pudhupettai really showed what he is capable of. The teen role at the start was probably walk in the park but the anger he showed as a gangster and some of the emotions are splendid. In fact i remember one french film critic mentioning dhanush reminding him of a young Al Pacino.

Scenes like:

The scene where dhanush counts the gangsters who come to avenge him while he is holding his aruval. Anger and fear coming together.

The scene where he doubts his newborn child.

Most scenes with sonia agharwal and of course scenes where he is faced with adversity.

It is only after this movie that i believed that you dunt need to be muscular and mean looking to be a gangster.

[Vivasaayi]

He can actually, your imagining it in surya's zone so of course it is impossible. But Maddy has his own brand of humour which i am sure if he had done it first you would say surya cant certainly do it.

pithamagan maddy stylela panna - adhu MBA mudicha sakthi madhiri irukkum

but surya can be a "born and brought up in town" advertisement designer if not an urban guy

[P_R]

He can actually, your imagining it in surya's zone so of course it is impossible. But Maddy has his own brand of humour which i am sure if he had done it first you would say surya cant certainly do it.

It wasn't a role in Surya's 'zone'.
Or - warning big statement ahead - it doesn't look like Surya has a defined comfort zone.

[crajkumar_be]

Yarruppa naduvula Clint eastwood ulla ittukittu varathu... a man with multiple S curve in terms of cinematic skill set... A legendery hero and director.... I love him lot after thalivar.
Oru udharanathukku ('assault a cool aana nadippu') sonnen-ga. Ella role-um avar panra madhiri panna velaikkavadhu nu solla vandhen. Monotony

[Nerd]

Nandha-kku munnAdi did any of us think uyirilE kalanthathu surya could pull that off? :lol2:

Btw has surya ever played a stupid common man role? (Not the chocolate boy kind)

On Dhanush, he was sort of good in BM's AOKK too.

[crajkumar_be]

Shammikkanum! Ennudaya versatile list la yerkanave Rajini peru irukkunga... aana unconditional list la irukkaadhu

rajniya versatle add pandradhu konjam over...

for the past 25 yearsa ore rolethan pandraru..kitta thatta.

early 80s la sila different roles pannaaru..OK..but overalla versatilenu solla mudiyuma?
TFI la solla mudiyum

[P_R]

Dhanush is a very impressive actor. But he has not done much variety has he ? wrt Dhanush I am cat on the wall as far as versatility goes.

[Hulkster]

He can actually, your imagining it in surya's zone so of course it is impossible. But Maddy has his own brand of humour which i am sure if he had done it first you would say surya cant certainly do it.

It wasn't a role in Surya's 'zone'.
Or - warning big statement ahead - it doesn't look like Surya has a defined comfort zone.

Well no actor has a defined comfort zone actually. Surya if you ask me looks very comfortable in movies where he needs to entertain. He forces himself in roles which are complex. Even vijaykanth has been proven to act in films which are not necessarily action-based.
I think we should say it as what we feel is their strongest area of expertise.

That Maddy style of humour would be urbanised is far-fetched. He pulled off the innocent and naive role in nala damayanthi very well and he can certainly do it in pithamagan. Like i said imagining him now in that film will look stupid as Bala built that script around those sort of characters and he wanted those sort of emotions so Surya suited them to a T. But its possible to play that role with Maddy but he would have to change the screenplay but not necessarily urbanized.

[Plum]

Yarruppa naduvula Clint eastwood ulla ittukittu varathu... a man with multiple S curve in terms of cinematic skill set... A legendery hero and director.... I love him lot after thalivar.
Oru udharanathukku ('assault a cool aana nadippu') sonnen-ga. Ella role-um avar panra madhiri panna velaikkavadhu nu solla vandhen. Monotony

apdillam escape aaga mudiyaddhu CR. Neenga Wood-ai mattum BOLD formatting paNNi silent-a signal kudutheenga - naan paarthen pa naan paarthen.

[Vivasaayi]

Btw has surya ever played a stupid common man role? (Not the chocolate boy kind)



any example?

[Plum]

He can actually, your imagining it in surya's zone so of course it is impossible. But Maddy has his own brand of humour which i am sure if he had done it first you would say surya cant certainly do it.

It wasn't a role in Surya's 'zone'.
Or - warning big statement ahead - it doesn't look like Surya has a defined comfort zone.

Idhai naan type paNNittu back-up pandra aLavukku dhairayam illama post pannalai!

[crajkumar_be]

Yes, Bharath - Kadhal la fantastic performance, competent in Fattiyal, good in Veyyil....
Thanus - PP, Polladhavan (he does well in the TA roles but thats sambar and rice for him)

Innum konjam edhirpaakkaren

[Vivasaayi]

He can actually, your imagining it in surya's zone so of course it is impossible. But Maddy has his own brand of humour which i am sure if he had done it first you would say surya cant certainly do it.

It wasn't a role in Surya's 'zone'.
Or - warning big statement ahead - it doesn't look like Surya has a defined comfort zone.

yes.

infact thats a certificate for his versatility after a considerable number of films

[Hulkster]

What do you guys really define versatility as? As one who plays different type of roles or one who could give the required performance for any movie he acts in as even for a similar role screenplay can be different.

I consider the latter a much effective way of deciding a actor. The former only defines type of roles but not necessarily how good the actor is.

[crajkumar_be]

Hulk,
One who plays different roles convincingly as against someone who might be part of different kinds of films playing different roles but not convincingly

[Nerd]

Btw has surya ever played a stupid common man role? (Not the chocolate boy kind)



any example?
Mahanadhi, EvanO oruvan, yaavarum nalam etc.

May be he is too young (or at least looks so)..

[Vivasaayi]

hulkster,

no actor has defined a comfort zone-a?

madhavan - chocolate boy

alaipayuthe,minnale,dum dum dum,run,nala dhamayandhi,jay jay

paadhi padam chocolate boythan

[Vivasaayi]

Btw has surya ever played a stupid common man role? (Not the chocolate boy kind)



any example?
Mahanadhi, EvanO oruvan, yaavarum nalam etc.

May be he is too young (or at least looks so)..

i dont understand...u mean family man?

[Vivasaayi]

What do you guys really define versatility as? As one who plays different type of roles or one who could give the required performance for any movie he acts in as even for a similar role screenplay can be different.

I consider the latter a much effective way of deciding a actor. The former only defines type of roles but not necessarily how good the actor is.

then goundamani could be rated as the best actor ever.

[crajkumar_be]

"nala dhamayandhi" - A very decent attempt. Adhu chocolate boy madhiri theriliye. Can't see anybody else (other than Kamal) doing justice to that role apart from Maddy

"Run" - Adhula angry young man dhaane

[Hulkster]

hulkster,

no actor has defined a comfort zone-a?

madhavan - chocolate boy

alaipayuthe,minnale,dum dum dum,run,nala dhamayandhi,jay jay

paadhi padam chocolate boythan

Thats not exactly comfort zone, they maybe similar in themes but differ in actual performance required. jay jay and minnale were quite similar but the rest were different.

[Vivasaayi]

for me atleast

alaipayuthe,minnale,dum dum dum and jay jay ae similar

[Nerd]

Rajini-ya paththi inga pEsa virumbalai, irunthaalum can't resist. For the past tontyfi years, ellAm rembba over.

* padikkAthavan/dharmadurai/muthu/vaLLi
* Nallavanukku nallavan/Dharmaththin thalaivan
* vELaikkAran/Guru Sishyan/rAjAthi rAjA/veerA
* mannan/annAmalai/bAtshA/vEttaiyan/mottai boss
* thaLapathi
* Sri Raghavendra

[Nerd]

Vivs, I mean a role without louu or heroism.

[Plum]

hulkster,

no actor has defined a comfort zone-a?

madhavan - chocolate boy

alaipayuthe,minnale,dum dum dum,run,nala dhamayandhi,jay jay

paadhi padam chocolate boythan

Maddy definitely has a comfort zone- even Anbe Sivam is within his comfort zone. Add Lesa Lesa to his comfort zone roles. Even ND, I dont understand why it is out of comfort zone for him - but one thing, evlo mukkinaalum, Surya ND panna mudiyadhu.
Out of comfort zone roles for him - Edhiri(did fairly well), EnnavaLe(:rotfl:), AE, Kannathil Muthamittal(colossal failure).

Surya - avarukku Nerukku Ner-e out of comfort zone dhaan :-). I can hardly think of a comfort zone character for him - even Sanjay Ramasamy is out of his comfort zone. Pithamagan out of his zone. Perazhagan - where he failed in my opinion - also out of zone. Actually, which movie is within his comfort zone? Somebody esplain...

[Vivasaayi]

Rajini-ya paththi inga pEsa virumbalai, irunthaalum can't resist. For the past tontyfi years, ellAm rembba over.

* padikkAthavan/dharmadurai/muthu/vaLLi
* Nallavanukku nallavan/Dharmaththin thalaivan
* vELaikkAran/Guru Sishyan/rAjAthi rAjA/veerA
* mannan/annAmalai/bAtshA/vEttaiyan/mottai boss
* thaLapathi
* Sri Raghavendra

sri raghavendra,vettaiyan..to certain extet thalapathy accepted

but the style of comedy,action,punch dialogues,songs,romance are very similar in rajni movies

[Vivasaayi]

Vivs, I mean a role without louu or heroism.

aahh...okok!

[Plum]

Rajni - no need to divide into 25 years and 15 years before that. Overal, he is quite versatile. As I have observed before, at one point in 70's, I believe he was tipped for acting honours and Kamal for superstardom. That the scales were reversed is an indicator of the versatility of these two.

[Vivasaayi]

plum,

adhaan vishayame....surya dint "sikkify" inside a comfort zone

[Hulkster]

Like i said the theme is similar but not entirely same.

Alaipayuthey - a husband who loves his wife but has to fight a emotional battle to regain his wife's life back.

Minnaley - Chocolate boy role at the start but a reluctant love in the end

Dum Dum Dum - Flirt rather than chocolate boy but not similar when you consider second half. Is trying to convince other family to be united.

Jay Jay - Similar to Minnaley.

The roles are quite diverse when you dissect them and he plays the role to perfection despite the similarity in the theme. A actor is not measured by role but the scene by scene performance and in that sense maddy has scored atleast 80 marks for me.

[Vivasaayi]

Rajni - no need to divide into 25 years and 15 years before that. Overal, he is quite versatile. As I have observed before, at one point in 70's, I believe he was tipped for acting honours and Kamal for superstardom. That the scales were reversed is an indicator of the versatility of these two.

:)

[Vivasaayi]

Like i said the theme is similar but not entirely same.

Alaipayuthey - a husband who loves his wife but has to fight a emotional battle to regain his wife's life back.

Minnaley - Chocolate boy role at the start but a reluctant love in the end

Dum Dum Dum - Flirt rather than chocolate boy but not similar when you consider second half. Is trying to convince other family to be united.

Jay Jay - Similar to Minnaley.

The roles are quite diverse when you dissect them and he plays the role to perfection despite the similarity in the theme. A actor is not measured by role but the scene by scene performance and in that sense maddy has scored atleast 80 marks for me.

then vijay is also versatile..avarayum aatathula serthukunga

shall i point out the diverstity among the roles played by vijay?

[Nerd]

Bharath - Boys, nesst film(?) kAdhal. vAippE illai. Two extremes.

[Hulkster]

Maddy definitely has a comfort zone- even Anbe Sivam is within his comfort zone. Add Lesa Lesa to his comfort zone roles. Even ND, I dont understand why it is out of comfort zone for him - but one thing, evlo mukkinaalum, Surya ND panna mudiyadhu.
Out of comfort zone roles for him - Edhiri(did fairly well), EnnavaLe(:rotfl:), AE, Kannathil Muthamittal(colossal failure).

Surya - avarukku Nerukku Ner-e out of comfort zone dhaan :-). I can hardly think of a comfort zone character for him - even Sanjay Ramasamy is out of his comfort zone. Pithamagan out of his zone. Perazhagan - where he failed in my opinion - also out of zone. Actually, which movie is within his comfort zone? Somebody esplain...

Nobody has a comfort zone as every actor who can act can play different roles. Movies may not be successful but the evidence is there.

Surya too does not have a comfort zone" but his style of acting is half artificial half underplayed that no matter what role he plays there is no difference. There are roles which had maddy playing similar styles like thambi and evano oruvan but i could find the stark contrast in those two. Not surya for me. I saw ghajini's sanjay ramasaamy and that could be equated to kaaka kaaka surya. Vel rough looking surya could be equated to the aaru surya etc. He is good but certainly not in that league where he can show different set of expressions for different scenes.

[Hulkster]

Like i said the theme is similar but not entirely same.

Alaipayuthey - a husband who loves his wife but has to fight a emotional battle to regain his wife's life back.

Minnaley - Chocolate boy role at the start but a reluctant love in the end

Dum Dum Dum - Flirt rather than chocolate boy but not similar when you consider second half. Is trying to convince other family to be united.

Jay Jay - Similar to Minnaley.

The roles are quite diverse when you dissect them and he plays the role to perfection despite the similarity in the theme. A actor is not measured by role but the scene by scene performance and in that sense maddy has scored atleast 80 marks for me.

then vijay is also versatile..avarayum aatathula serthukunga

shall i point out the diverstity among the roles played by vijay?

But he is like surya in that he repeats the same style for the roles he does.

Versatility is where you can play a role differently yet convincingly no matter how similar in theme. Vijay and Surya certainly dunt qualify.

[Hulkster]

BTW on the vijay topic, he is severely diminished in this place but he is a pretty good actor, he has his own trademark style of comedy and has the ability to transcend into the scene when required, but he is super stale with the same set and add to it external factors like dialogues and glaring heroism it makes him look horrible when he actually if you take out everything is not that way.

[Vivasaayi]

Versatility is where you can play a role differently yet convincingly no matter how similar in theme

sorringa..according to me "versatility is playing different roles convincingly atleast to certain extent" not "playing a role diferently in a similar theme convincingly"

lets agree to disagree

thread nadathunar "what is versatility" apdingradha thelivu paduthatum modhalla

[Hulkster]

It is actually both. Anyway just as a final note an actor who can certainly differentiate in similar themes can certainly differentiate in other roles as he has been proven to give the performance required for a scene by scene play.

Seri lets move on to Bharath. One of my favourite young stars, i dunt really like his sense of comedy but i like the way he performs in author backed roles. Very subtle.

[crajkumar_be]

Kizhinjidhu!

Meendum definition-a? Bill Clinda "is" -ku definition ketta kadhayaa airuchu :)

[Hulkster]

Vidunga, no matter how different our definition yeppadiyavethu sernthu varuvom IR song interlude mathiri :D

[Plum]

Ada pongappa evlo pesinaalum marubadi marubadi Surya-maddy panchayathu. Ok, nestu candidate
Ravikrishna: I am going to model it on Hulkester's template, 'cos that provides me the advantage of projecting the movie's theme as an attribute of the hero. Come to think of it, this is the only way I can project Ravikrishna
Even though on the surface, it is all lower-middle-class college-age young man, look at the diversity in the roles:
7G Rainbow Colony: Lower middle class loitering young man infatuated with a North Indian neighbour and eventually dealing with the emotional upheavals resulting from his all too brief happy moments with her and the unexpected fatal intervention in their lives

Kedi: Carefree college going youth winning his girl against all odds

Ponniyin Selvan: Breadwinner for his family, his youth wasted away in the struggles of daily life; caught between his quest for his fantasies and the bite of the reality; dealing with his mother's loss.

Ravikrishna, the ultimate versatile star of his generation!

[Plum]

"There are roles which had maddy playing similar styles like thambi and evano oruvan"
No way. Chalk and Cheese roles. In social status, in emotional state, in personal experiences - epdi paarthalum (assuming Evano Oruvan was exactly same as Dombivili Fast)
Neenga result decide pannitteenga appurama reason solreenga :-(