IR News and Other Titbits Ver.2009

[raja_fan]

IR has been straying away from reality for some time


Kareettu thalaivaa !
some of his fans too ;)

[Sureshs65]

irir123,

You are doing a great job propogating IR's music amongst the knowledgable folks and so I can understand your feeling. But that doesn't mean I can psychoanalyze you and come to some conclusion about the conflict inside you, isn't it? :D So I think we should desist from the psuedo psychoanalysis stuff.

It is a very different thing to say that "how can a composer in the field for more than 3 decades, NOT have a proper copyright company and not signed with a decent label ?? how can someone revered as an icon, NOT even have his CDs released properly which are available ? " and concluding this is due to some personailty defect. I think we should leave it at expressing our interest in him getting his due rather than going deeper and making claims about his personality. This will only lead more Charu and Shaji types to quote you!!! I am sure that is not a prospect you are looking forward to !!

[ramk1]

Nobody is trying to psychoanalyze anybody. We all expect our idol/music god to come to terms with reality and start producing his soul stirring music in this changed world. You can be blunt and contradicting a few times. But if you happen to be doing that all the time, anybody would be annoyed at that person's behaviour. And thats what Charu is trying to point out though for his own vested interests. In the padmabhushan interview a few days back IR was asked a simple question about ARR. Even if i dont like him, i would have said, i am happy for him as well. That closes the issue and people would have been happy for the maestro more. But he gave a curt reply back which may not have been needed at that time. Unfortunately he seems to be exposing his 'pechu' skills rather than his 'paatu' skills. for. We all want him to continue to produce good quality music. Explore different kinds of genre and continue to churn out for us. We all want to discuss more of his music rather than his blabbers these days. The more i like his music, i am beginning to get annoyed about his tongue. As irr & raja_fan points out, he cannot simply keep saying that listening to crap music is our thalai eluthu. If he thinks that is bad, let him come out of his shell and start giving out more. Didnt' he accept these as a challenge in his early stages of his career. Didnt he churn melodies after melodies and prove that he is the king of soul stirring music?. Didn't he vanquish his competitors at that time?. At that time, he let his music do the talking. Now it is a different story.

[irir123]

suresh65 - who cares abt the charus and shajis ? - AFAIK, their comments/reviews/blogs are the same as those smelly things that doggies drop during their morning walks, which we carefully avoid

what I have said is strictly my personal assessment on whats happening based on everything i have seen

btw, if you look back carefully, this was not the case during the 1980s or even the 1990s - this carelessness abt wats happening to his releases began during the late 1990s - some hubber friend met with IR and asked abt the non-availability of Guru (malayalam) CDs/cassettes in the marketplace, for which IR had replied that even he does not have a copy for himself !!! he is the composer and he does not have a copy of his best work (until that date) ??? ennathaan nadukkudho yedhuvum puriyala

even this copyright deal with AGI happened only after so many years of being in the dark, and suddenly out-of-the-blue

whether you agree with it or not, IR is definitely cut off from reality - i can understand it perfectly, if IR gave a reason like this: "big audio companies/label give a one-time royalty payment to the musician/composer, but thereafter all the copyrights belong to them - which i think is totally unfair - why shd an artist's genuine effort be taken over by some corporate group, who might ensure a large commercial reach, but in the end, the benefits are going to be reaped by them, while the creator languishes with a tiny percentage of the profit ?" - now such an argument would have been perfectly justified, since i understand thats how the music industry works/functions - be it the Beatles, or the Grateful Dead, or, Deep Purple, or anyone else, they get some initial amount, but thereafter its the company/label they have signed with, that owns their music - there are instances, when a group/band signs another agreement which will allow them to reuse/reproduce their music in public (as concerts) or in another musical venture - but overall, all of this is tightly kept within a framework of copyright laws/rules.

1. If IR is aware of all of this, and feels miffed at the 'injustice' of it all, i can perfectly understand - he has every right to be, in fact, probably wants his efforts to pay dividends to himself or his group - but, going by his talk about 'why he wont release symphonic works coz of scientific improvement' and all such meaningless/irrelevant things gives me a genuine doubt if he is aware of the above, and if aware, either denying them as too complicated, or simply does not want to accept the same, which is precisely what i am referring to as, straying away from reality!

the TiS project was began with the most annoying logistics (which was an absolute disaster, as it ultimately proved) plan - which most likely happened coz of IR's distrust of these big labels!

2. If IR is not aware, then, as a HCIRF, I wish that at least he make an attempt to understand the dynamics of how these things work - that does not seem to be the case

in the longer run, the path ahead does not seem to be very bright - he will do albums for some stray tamil, telugu, and 1-2 Hindi films, he will be in 'the market' for name sake, but he might simply fade away and will be celebrated only in the HUB!

[jaiganes]

IRIR - see u can drag a horse to the water- but cannot make him drink. idhellaam thaana nadandhaaththaan undu. However if he enters into a deal with BMG lets say - then he will have to comply with their requirements of merchandising, future albums or even reusing his own musical piece (like thumbi vaa). Probably he doesnt want his creative freedom to be curbed. Still all this is speculation and unless I get the opportunity of sitting with him in person (I am lifting his koojaa u see) and get him in a good mood and ask him these things, no answer is gonna come out - so I really feel for your troubles, but have nothing to make you feel better.

[irir123]

jaiganes - am past the time when i was emotionally attached to his music/projects - perhaps 10 years ago ?? whatever am doing now is when i find the time to do it - thalaikky mela velai, in this i simply dont have time to waste on what IR might want to do etc - but all that i have posted above, are based on my understanding of the situation

the few occasions i do get emotional is when i listen to makkals in the US attributing absolutely substandard stuff from india and bollywood calling them 'eclectic' Indian stuff! i either laugh at them or try to educate them abt IR!

[K]

http://www.thenaali.com/thenaali.aspx?N=5402

ithu veraya?

[K]

already post panathu than, oru 10 pattu thalaivarodathu, technologya(all free software than) use panni, sound boosteda upload panni iruken

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=72e83c5d7e9ce7fe0c814df2efeadc501b072273 bf6c0a61935cbde7375ca78c

try and comment

[raja_fan]

In the padmabhushan interview a few days back IR was asked a simple question about ARR. Even if i dont like him, i would have said, i am happy for him as well. That closes the issue and people would have been happy for the maestro more. But he gave a curt reply back which may not have been needed at that time. Unfortunately he seems to be exposing his 'pechu' skills rather than his 'paatu' skills.


Exactly ! "Sandhosham"-nu oru vaarthai indha manushan vaayila varalainaa ivar enna Spiritual-nu enakku puriyalai..at the same time, he spoke at length in ARR's falicitation function..oru muranpaattu moottai :)



As irr & raja_fan points out, he cannot simply keep saying that listening to crap music is our thalai eluthu. If he thinks that is bad, let him come out of his shell and start giving out more.


I pointed out what if his own son is authoring that "Thalai Eluthu" of remix songs and popcorn music ?

[baroque]

Devibala - kudumba novle (March 16, 2009) (Cover photo- Nayanthara..Mella varum thendral story)
There is a section....Cine chips.
They have posted the following.

சினி சிப்ஸ்..
தற்போது பரபரப்பாக ஓடிக் கொண்டிருக்கும் நான் கடவுள் படத்தை இயக்கிய பாலா, அடுத்து
தன்னுடைய 'பி ஸ்டுடியோஸ்' நிறுவனம் சார்பாக இரண்டு படங்களைத் தயாரிக்கவிருக்கிறார்.
ஒரு படத்தில் சூர்யாவும் இன்னொரு படத்தில் ஜெயம் ரவியும் கதாநாயகர்களாக நடிக்கிறார்கள்.
பாலாவின் உதவியார்களாகப் பணியாற்றிய சிங்கப்புலி, ரவி ஆகிய இருவரும் இரு படங்களையும்
தனித்தனியே இயக்குகிறார்கள்.

No mention about music!

Who is the MD?.. any idea?
vinatha.

[vel]

In the padmabhushan interview a few days back IR was asked a simple question about ARR. Even if i dont like him, i would have said, i am happy for him as well. That closes the issue and people would have been happy for the maestro more. But he gave a curt reply back which may not have been needed at that time. Unfortunately he seems to be exposing his 'pechu' skills rather than his 'paatu' skills.


Exactly ! "Sandhosham"-nu oru vaarthai indha manushan vaayila varalainaa ivar enna Spiritual-nu enakku puriyalai..at the same time, he spoke at length in ARR's falicitation function..oru muranpaattu moottai :)



As irr & raja_fan points out, he cannot simply keep saying that listening to crap music is our thalai eluthu. If he thinks that is bad, let him come out of his shell and start giving out more.


I pointed out what if his own son is authoring that "Thalai Eluthu" of remix songs and popcorn music ?


this shows you lack any understanding whatsoever of his personality...than pugazhailyae kaal thusi ena madhippavar edharkku innoruthar award'kku sandoshamnnu solluvar? it is stupidity to expect that reply from him..moreover, manasula onnu vachi naakula jaalam kaatura pattinathu vithai andha eliya gramathaanukku varaadhu...for example, raaja fan'nnu veliyila sollikiravan actualla manasu full'a prejudice and agenda person'aa iruppaan...

as far as remix - even if his sons do the remix, appavum thalaiyezhuthunnu dhaan solluvaar... :lol: He is a believer in destiny... Once in a meeting he moved his mobile from one corner of the table to another corner of the table and said "indha siru seyal kooda vidhikkapattadhu dhaan"...

poi vera vela irundha paarungappa...the more you talk ill of IR, you only make everyone shower more love on him... :)

[appushiva]

:swinghead: :D

I was very happy these days and given sweets to my flat neighbours and office collegues, It is a party time. IR finally recognised and appreciated by PB award. I seen some here in the hub like only his music not his attitude, I want to ask them for several decades you are been listened his songs and got cherish/ecstatic, what you did for him. As a living legend IR is been ignored by certain sectors still he stands high with his talent , we simply lament about the situation but one thing we show our love to him and try to spread his geniusity to the unknown people.

If IR speaks openly in public means it shows how much he was been hurt , embrassed so far. Our neighbouring country PM says "he loves india" means is he truly says and work in that way. Simply smiling and saying some sweet words means he is a right person then all our politicians speaks very nicely and what happning is the country debackles for years.
IR works geniunly and makes music based on our cultural values and enlightned our music to the world.. Show him love so that he will make quality music to us.
" Raja-fan" this is for you.. Your statment is like ... You like the milk but you hate the cow... What is this yar.....

[raja_fan]

this shows you lack any understanding whatsoever of his personality...than pugazhailyae kaal thusi ena madhippavar edharkku innoruthar award'kku sandoshamnnu solluvar? it is stupidity to expect that reply from him..moreover, manasula onnu vachi naakula jaalam kaatura pattinathu vithai andha eliya gramathaanukku varaadhu...for example, raaja fan'nnu veliyila sollikiravan actualla manasu full'a prejudice and agenda person'aa iruppaan...


Vel,

first of all, your post is in bad taste and you resort to personal attacks calling "stupidity", explanation on my name "Raja fan" etc...

Second, you say I lack understanding of IR's personality.
You say IR considers his own fame as Kaal dhoosi.
Do you know how many times IR has contradicted himself on this ? He has moved from extreme to extreme from humility to head-weightedness !

1. Years back, on Sun TV, on Hey Ram promo, he was repeating many times how he was called "a special composer" by the conductor of BSO conductor. It was really pathetic to see him boasting himself like that frequently in that interview. It was in that interview he first called contemporary music by others as Plastic music !

2. What was the need of IR to mock at "Ellaa pughazhum iraivanukke" phrase of ARR in a completely unrelated occassion ? Who asked this man to clarify whether that phrase is logically correct or not ?? Did he not say "Moogaambigai amman ennoda pesuvaanga" in a DD interview ? Is it not a better candidate for mockery than ARR's thanks to the supreme power ?

3. Did he not ridicule the MDs before his era saying "Naan varathukku munnale re-recording-na ellaa scenukkum 'ta-ta-ta-taan' music thaan" in one occassion ?

Lot of such instances can be said !

One simple question..if this "giramaththaan" does not know any vaai jaalam and so honest and frank, can he reply in the same kind of "Why should I feel for him ? Ask him" if some reporter asked him about some award (if at all ) given to political bigwig like the CM ??

Thirdly, you are unnecessarily bringing emotional factors like "giramaththaan" "nagarathaan" etc..
Please answer with facts and logic, rather than ridiculing people personally and emotionally ! :)

[Plum]

101st page. Thread needs to be locked anyway.
Admin, We need a moderator from among the people here so quick action can be taken generally. I think Suresh qualifies eminently. Please do the needful.

[kameshratnam]

I guess we are mixing up a lot of things here. Just read my earlier posts.. IR is a musical genius and there it stops...we should not even try to go beyond it.

1. He does not even care of about his songs and suddenly he wakes up and says people are not given royalty. In an industry where people have so much of respect for IR, if he had put in a word surely help would have come.

2. Symphony release and piracy: Its very simple. Make a simple calculation and see how much profit you want. Have orders and the money collected from one and all, then release the cds.

Many a time i have seen IR speaking that film music is waste...i wud have saluted him if he had said it before Thalapathy or post the movie...

He said no one from india ( If i remember right) can compose a symphony like this...

:(

[raja_fan]

He said no one from india ( If i remember right) can compose a symphony like this...


Yes. I missed this in my post.

Thanks Kamesh for reminding. His words at Hey Ram promo were "matravargal varunkaalathil ippadi hungary senru isai amaikkalaam..aanaal idhu pola adhu irukkaadhu"

For people who wonder why this Raja_fan is keen in bashing IR, my humble answer is that some people here want to glorify everything about IR..not stopping with discussing his music which needs no glorification !

[Fliflo]

Vairamthu's Writings About Ilayaraja in Tamil...All should read to understand them

http://www.saravanakumaran.com/2010/01/blog-post_24.html

[vel]

pseudo_raja_fan

1. Sun TV Hey Ram promo - he did not repeat it. watch it again. Moreover, in a promo, virtually every technician boasts. Thats what promos are meant for. Sappa music director ellam enna ennavo pesaran, thalaivan pesa koodaadha?

2. this is a dangerous territory - i am not replying to this. Since you are a staunch hindutva supporter, you can have fun on this topic at your own cost.

3. that was because in most cases the RR was done by associates and troupes and not by the MD themselves. So he may have once said this on re-recording (RR) but never once on songs. Countless times he has glorified MSV to a embarassing limit.

[Sureshs65]

For people who wonder why this Raja_fan is keen in bashing IR, my humble answer is that some people here want to glorify everything about IR..not stopping with discussing his music which needs no glorification !

raja_fan,

When you had gone off this forum in a huff, declaring proudly that everyone has become intolerant and all, the discussions here were mostly about music. You can check the archives and you will see lot of fruitful discussions which have happened about music.

And while you are checking those archives, can you also find some posts from any of the regulars who have spoken in high regard about 'everything' that Raja does? Go ahead and show us as to where we all have glorified Raja for whatever he does. In contrast I can show you posts from major Raja lovers like irir123, thumburu, Shankar et al, where they have torn apart different aspects of Raja.

So my request to you is, in order to have some moral basis for your crusade, you need to prove that everyone here wants to hold Raja in high esteem in every sphere of life. If you cannot give those example, I think you should once again go to 'vanavasam'. That will enable us to continue with our discussions on music.

All said and done, this is a free forum. You can keep up with your hatred and agenda as long as you want. I don't think your posts will be worth replying to.

[tvsankar]

[quote]
For people who wonder why this Raja_fan is keen in bashing IR, my humble answer is that some people here want to glorify everything about IR..not stopping with discussing his music which needs no glorification !

raja_fan,

Vaazhga ungal thondu ....

Valarga ungal pani...

Evvalavu porupaga, thread thread aga vandhu

ipadi kelvi kaetu , kashta padareenga......

Inum Hard Work pannunga raja_fan....

[tvsankar]

100 page ku melae poindu irukae indha thread???

[irir123]

AFAIK, my one and only concern is very, very selfish - it is that, whatever IR does should not in anyway affect his output - I want to listen to more of his repertoire, creativity, and the only way that can happen, is when he gets new challenging projects, which is dependent on how he embraces all the things, he appears to be shunning! his comments abt 'plastic music' 'thagara dappa music' dont matter to me, if they dont matter to the ppl they are directed against! its his music tat matters to me

[raagas]

this shows you lack any understanding whatsoever of his personality...than pugazhailyae kaal thusi ena madhippavar edharkku innoruthar award'kku sandoshamnnu solluvar? it is stupidity to expect that reply from him..moreover, manasula onnu vachi naakula jaalam kaatura pattinathu vithai andha eliya gramathaanukku varaadhu...for example, raaja fan'nnu veliyila sollikiravan actualla manasu full'a prejudice and agenda person'aa iruppaan...


Vel,

2. What was the need of IR to mock at "Ellaa pughazhum iraivanukke" phrase of ARR in a completely unrelated occassion ? Who asked this man to clarify whether that phrase is logically correct or not ??

though i am not that aware of other issues thar raja_fan has raised, i am aware of this one episode and i felt it wasnt right. Honestly, i felt IR shld have refrained from making this comment.

[ramk1]

Yeah, instead of writing one's argument and counter arguments, let us all wish and pray that IR gets few more challenging assignment with a renowned group/director so that his musical output is discussed more and not his conflicts and extraneous expressions. Unfortunately his thalaivaazhai saapadu has never come our way so far in the last 15-18 years since he proclaimed it to us. Let him start a new phase in his career so that his musical output is placed along the lines of Beethoven, Bach and a few geniuses who have stood the test of time.

[rprasad]

I dont know why you guys keep fighting on how IR behaves or says and his character and other stuff not related to music. I think i already said this before, he is what he is. Is he eccentric? yes most geniuses are. Does he talk strange stuff and bring up unrelated stuff during speeches? yes that is also part of his eccentricity. Does he oscillate between spiritual stuff and other modern discussion? yes its part of his makeup. That is the reason he does not attend many functions and gives any speeches. WE all know this for many years now. Lets not waste time discussing about this. Lets focus on his music. I agree with irir123 on him getting challenging projects, but he is not at the stage of his career where he will change his approach to certain things and start doing stuff differently. He has composed music for so many films now and he will continue in his own way as far as projects go. Maybe things would have been different if he came up during the current generation but he is old school on certain things and sticks to that. My only hope is that he focusses on non film music as well and comes up with some creative albums. Maybe his close friends in the industry like Kamal or SPB can motivate him in this regard.
finally my 2 cents on the Padma Bhushan award for IR. I think its a great honor for him but my only crib is that in my opinion they should not have given the same award to ARR and IR in the same year. I dont know how this happened. ARR already has a Padma Shri and while he certainly deserves this award too , but there is time left in his career to get this award and more since he is young enough. for me its a little akward seeing a veteren like IR and his next generation MD ARR getting this award at the same time. Just my opinion.

[irir123]

for all the hype and hoopla abt AGI music having copyrights of all IR related music released before 2000, I see that several of his albums are actually available on iTUNES under the label SAREGAMA!!

this is exactly what i have been saying about the messy label/copyright issues related to IR's music and his own hand in all of this!

[baroque]

yeah..
E music sells some nice collections too. They carry labels like INRECO.
http://www.emusic.com/album/Various-Artists-Nostalgia-Ilayaraja-MP3-Download/11456111.html
http://www.emusic.com/album/Various-Artists-Ilayaraja-s-Hits-MP3-Download/11033331.html
http://www.emusic.com/album/Ilayaraaja-Ilayaraja-s-Guru-Ramana-Geetham-MP3-Download/10917410.html
http://www.emusic.com/album/Ilayaraaja-Soundaryame-Varuga-Enakaha-Kaathiru-Panneer-MP3-Download/10907110.html
http://www.emusic.com/composer/Ilayaraja-MP3-Download/11645326.html
http://www.emusic.com/album/Isai-Gnani-Ilayaraaja-Forever-Gold-Tamil-Film-Songs-Vol-1-MP3-Download/11080504.html
http://www.emusic.com/album/Various-Artists-Payanam-A-Journey-Isaignani-Ilayaraaja-MP3-Download/11081132.html
vinatha.

[kameshratnam]

pseudo_raja_fan

Countless times he has glorified MSV to a embarassing limit.

I recall my meeting with a top man in SS Music. IR had told some great things about MSV.....the next day he called them and asked them to delete that portion.....Yes..yes..this is glorification....

When there so many ways to curb piracy and stuff, people are just not prepared to open their ears and eyes....there are ways to do it..
All of us know why IR didnt release his symphony and it was because of a price problem with Pyramid....summa inda piracy reason ellam agree panna mudiyadu Raaja sir....

Why doesnt he release symphony just like that just for the music fans ? He wont.....thani ulagam da sami

[raja_fan]

Countless times he has glorified MSV to a embarassing limit.


Please read my post again.

I have never said IR has no humility or respect over others.
What I said is he is almost always self-contradicting - moving from one extreme of humility to another extreme of head full of pride !

As long as people continue to glorify and justify everything that IR speaks, my humble service will continue here :)

[raja_fan]

He created the symphony in 1993 and after 17 years, he complains of piracy as the reason for not releasing it !

Rasigargal panatthai vaangi Thiruvasagam seidha podhu mattum indha kavalai avarukku vara villai...
yen ? adhu thaan avar panam illai enbadhaalaa ?

[NormalMan]

Rasigargal panatthai vaangi Thiruvasagam seidha podhu mattum indha kavalai avarukku vara villai...
yen ? adhu thaan avar panam illai enbadhaalaa ?

This is a arachu maavu statement. Do you expect him to score for free and let mongers go sell it? Either come out with concrete facts and numbers or stop making fictitious statements. I even told the local (in US) responsible folks, to create a page and list people who contributed and how much they contributed. This will serve as self verification. Nothing was done.

Agree with the piracy statement of IR - confusing and contradicting.

[kameshratnam]

Raaja.com published a letter which said IR wanted us to give a commitment that we wud buy original cd if he released an album and i guess it was related to music messaih.....it was not planned..

today wat is required is simple planning of ir albums and the basic thing is sales and marketing....even today i am telling this

Say: have 5000 people register for the album...u have ur rate fixed..COLLECT THE MONEY AND RELEASE THE ALBUM......

[vel]

I recall my meeting with a top man in SS Music. IR had told some great things about MSV.....the next day he called them and asked them to delete that portion.....Yes..yes..this is glorification....

When there so many ways to curb piracy and stuff, people are just not prepared to open their ears and eyes....there are ways to do it..
All of us know why IR didnt release his symphony and it was because of a price problem with Pyramid....summa inda piracy reason ellam agree panna mudiyadu Raaja sir....

Why doesnt he release symphony just like that just for the music fans ? He wont.....thani ulagam da sami

When you dont know why he asked those things to be deleted, you cannot come to any conclusion whatsoever. Since you seem to be a popular person with SS music, check again with your "top man at SS music" and educate us all on the reason wny IR wanted something to be deleted.

And symphone release panna mattum original CD'aa vaangida poreenga? Chumma oru rendu music store poyittu, enakku CD kidaikalainnu MP3 thiruduveenga...

[vel]

He created the symphony in 1993 and after 17 years, he complains of piracy as the reason for not releasing it !

Rasigargal panatthai vaangi Thiruvasagam seidha podhu mattum indha kavalai avarukku vara villai...
yen ? adhu thaan avar panam illai enbadhaalaa ?

appadi illa maa...Prior to thiruvasagam, he was scared of music illiterates (i wont call them critics) commenting carelessly of the product. So he was hurt. Post thiruvasagam, he would have learnt that even if you give a great musical output like thiruvasagam, most makkal adhaiyum thirudi thaan thinbaargal..kaasu koduthu vaanga maattan...so piracy is a fear he got after the thiruvasagam episode where MP3 files were freely available all over the net...so even if MP3 penetration was driven due to distribution mistake, teaming up with Agi could only be seen as his learning from his mistake of partnering with the wrong people.

[kameshratnam]

I recall my meeting with a top man in SS Music. IR had told some great things about MSV.....the next day he called them and asked them to delete that portion.....Yes..yes..this is glorification....

When there so many ways to curb piracy and stuff, people are just not prepared to open their ears and eyes....there are ways to do it..
All of us know why IR didnt release his symphony and it was because of a price problem with Pyramid....summa inda piracy reason ellam agree panna mudiyadu Raaja sir....

Why doesnt he release symphony just like that just for the music fans ? He wont.....thani ulagam da sami

When you dont know why he asked those things to be deleted, you cannot come to any conclusion whatsoever. Since you seem to be a popular person with SS music, check again with your "top man at SS music" and educate us all on the reason wny IR wanted something to be deleted.

And symphone release panna mattum original CD'aa vaangida poreenga? Chumma oru rendu music store poyittu, enakku CD kidaikalainnu MP3 thiruduveenga...

First and foremost why shd he even ask those things to be deleted. The person didnt want to ask him since IR said it and put down the phone.

Vel: U better mind ur language..i too know how to talk and i can be rude too....my 2 cents... i need not prove to the world or u that i buy original cds of IR......

[vel]

I stick to what i said..there is nothing wrong in my language..if you use illegal mp3 (which you do), then you are stealing. See below your post regarding music messaih CD.


Come on folks..its not available anywhere..looks like mp3 is the only way...

[kameshratnam]

Yes. even i now i maintain it....if the cds are not available, then i will to go to MP3..i am a consumer...i will go and seek them only at accessible places to me..

[rajasaranam]

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[kameshratnam]

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[irir123]

He created the symphony in 1993 and after 17 years, he complains of piracy as the reason for not releasing it !

Rasigargal panatthai vaangi Thiruvasagam seidha podhu mattum indha kavalai avarukku vara villai...
yen ? adhu thaan avar panam illai enbadhaalaa ?

appadi illa maa...Prior to thiruvasagam, he was scared of music illiterates (i wont call them critics) commenting carelessly of the product. So he was hurt. Post thiruvasagam, he would have learnt that even if you give a great musical output like thiruvasagam, most makkal adhaiyum thirudi thaan thinbaargal..kaasu koduthu vaanga maattan...so piracy is a fear he got after the thiruvasagam episode where MP3 files were freely available all over the net...so even if MP3 penetration was driven due to distribution mistake, teaming up with Agi could only be seen as his learning from his mistake of partnering with the wrong people.

vel - its a simple sappai matter - for 'thiruvasagam', all IR had to do was pick up the phone and get hold of Sony or BMG agent, thrash out a deal, release it through them, and today TiS wud have been available in every patti, thotti, and outlets all over the world, in airports, in malls - not only that, the reach would have been so vast, that several projects wud have easily happened following that, and with such market reach/command, he cud have easily commanded/demanded contract deals equivalent to what others are getting - but instead, he chose the most crazy means of making appeals to fans to buy original CDs and associated with some priest for this most ambitious (at least at that time, it was) project ! ? and that man later went around throwing muck on IR and the whole thing got mired in ugly waters - when all these cud have been easily avoided by taking the time-tested route of having proper business deals/agreements! i guess 'vinnaithaandi varuvaaya' was released by Sony - so why not TiS ? andha level business sense koodavaa ivarukku illaaama pocchu ??

there are many instances in which his original CDs are not available even if we went looking for them online - he wants everything to happen, the way he snaps his fingers, tats the problem - but when in reality, whats required is some plan/logistics to take care of things which are all well-handled by companies that are in the business since a long time

but beyond all of this, he will make statements and behave as if he is gods chosen one, and everyone shd come to him - but tats not the way the world works - i still recall when he told in another instance how ppl with ears for good music will go in search of it!! so tats what he expects ppl to do - have cds released in chennai which will disappear in a few weeks and then makkals get tired of searching, and instead settle for Mp3s or some other music!