Adult activities and its effect on teens...

[thilak4life]

Here's a recent study, Sex, Drugs And Dating Make Teens Feel Older. (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/06/070618124552.htm)

Discuss...

[complicateur]

thilak: A lot of thoughts to organize. Let me see if I can put together a comprehensive post later.
For now my first thoughts are, that survey sits uneasily with the urban/suburban (south?) Indian middle class morality - to the point of seeming almost irrelevant. Do you agree?

[pavalamani pragasam]

Yes, it is a tragic trend on the increase- pinjilE pazuththal. Premature maturing/aging! Losing happy, healthy, innocent, joyful, guiltless youth!

[Shakthiprabha.]

Yes, it is a tragic trend on the increase- pinjilE pazuththal. Premature maturing/aging! Losing happy, healthy, innocent, joyful, guiltless youth!

I agree.

I also feel, this trend may increase suicides, frustrations and unhappiness even before they touch middle age (say mid 30s)

[thilak4life]

thilak: A lot of thoughts to organize. Let me see if I can put together a comprehensive post later.
For now my first thoughts are, that survey sits uneasily with the urban/suburban (south?) Indian middle class morality - to the point of seeming almost irrelevant. Do you agree?

Complicateur, I forgot about this thread. Just read your post, I'll come back to this. In short, I agree there.

Awaiting other thoughts too. I'll join the discourse a bit later. :D

[pavalamani pragasam]

thilak4life, I like your tagline! Would like to join the band! :D

[P_R]

Here's a recent study, Sex, Drugs And Dating Make Teens Feel Older. (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/06/070618124552.htm)

Discuss...

Duh !

idhukku oru research-A ? Forget the bigger 'sins', every kid picks up swearing to appear older. I think that would be the next research article.

I should get retire, get myself a research grant and write such obvious things and get paid for it !

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Kids swear they are older !

Statistical evidence indicate that a vast majority of pre-teen Americans tend to actively seek informal learning channels to expand their vocabulary of expletives. It has been observed that the growth rate in this section of the pre-teen's vocabulary happens at a pace which is significantly higher than that of overall vocabulary and is often times unrelated to presence or absence of learning disorder in the subject.


Researchers in the the Truism Development Lab (TDL), University of Obvious have been working since 2005 applying psychometric analyses with advanced neural net algorithms to identify patterns in teen behaviour captured through expertly designed surveys. These groundbreaking techniques have been able to minimize dependence anecdotal evidence.

Prof.<white name> the founder of TDL and research scientists <Indian Name> and <Chinese Name> made waves with their article: Evolution of nefarious vocabularic tendencies in pre-teens. in the recent issue of Journal of <I exist so assistant profs. can publish and get tenured>.

The survey conducted on 173 pre-teen subjects in the high school across the street from TDL - which <Chinese name> explains is a representative cross section of the American, helped affirm many traditionally held theories while also makes some new discoveries.

The article puts forward the theory that many pre-teens tend to start 'cussing' in a conscious effort to appear older. This tendency was also inversely proportional to the extent of time spent in the country. "Immigrant children tend to make that extra effort to work in cuss words into their vocabulary. Apart from the motivation to appear older, they are also driven by the drive to "fit in" with their peers" said Dr. <Chinese name> drawing from personal experience.

Cuss words specific to certain ethnic groups tend to be picked up first by the children. "Of course this is because of the increased probability of hearing them more in the household. But apart from that it is also because it provides the opportunity of being able to cuss but make sense only to a specific group." says Dr.<Indian Name>.

In response to the criticism that some of the research conclusions were obvious Dr. <white name> said it was important to further social understanding by accurately quantizing and proving beyond doubt that publicly held notions were indeed on the right basis. "Isn't it amazing that conclusions drawn from closeted individual cases- fraught with risks of personal bias- indeed turns out to be correct. Speaks volumes about the human intuition and common sense". Dr <white name> also said that this intuition and the psychological underpinnings of social understanding was still a matter of open research. TDL is expanding to a Neural mapping facilities in early 2009 that will take research to a new level. "Neurosociology is surely the technology of the future" say all three in chorus. TDL's founder-professor is smug walking into the future looking ahead. As Dr.<Indian name> puts it in Hindi -"sAlA yEda hai" - "which means he is indeed a visionary".

[thilak4life]

:rotfl:

PR, that's freaking funny. :lol:

As for the "research", it's a statistical study on age group "12 to 19", even though the "research" is minimal and very obvious, but I thought it's pertinent to the topic of teens accessing "porn". If you extend this to 4 year old Russian kid smoking a cigarette. As PP put it "pinjilE pazuththal" and such attempts at 4? :shock:


I saw a video of a Russian child - around 4 years old - smoking a cigarette like a pro ! I could have been shocked - but that would be fake reaction - because we have come to expect man to do all he 'can' now. I was actually quite worried and annoyed. That was just so "wrong". And I couldn't pin on how to define "wrong", "choice", imposition of values etc. It is one thing to toy with the philosophical question. Personally quite thrilling. But to see the child smoke was just very worrying.

[thilak4life]

thilak4life, I like your tagline! Would like to join the band! :D

The quote is from the film, "Network". One of those quotable films around. :D

[complicateur]

Prabhu Ram: :rotfl: especially the last line.
But in the interest of continuing the diskassan, is there an appropriate age to relax the barrier to access?

[Badri]

Let me stir this up a bit. We speak about access to "adult content" and an age to access such content.

I have always wondered...driving through some of our Indian villages, you see huts on the roadside where people dwell. Not that I have actually been in one, but they look impossibly small to have more than 2 rooms. Lounging outside are kids of all ages, a grand mother chewing her vethalai, and a pregnant mother, seiving rice.

Where is the privacy in that house for the woman to have gotten pregnant? Yet she did! To those children there, how soon do the "facts of life" become apparant?

In farms where animals mating and giving birth to young ones is a matter of daily routine, which even a 4-5 year old is a witness to - would there be a need to "educate" children?

All this question of access and privacy and restrictions come only when there is enough wealth to afford it. In the rough and tough out there, what privacy, what age, what restriction?

[pizzalot]

Where is the privacy in that house for the woman to have gotten pregnant? Yet she did! To those children there, how soon do the "facts of life" become apparant?


Well put Badri. Socially also , villagers are more open to talking about sex than their Urban counterparts. You can frequently see parents discussing sex related talks in front of their children. It brings about a healthy personality in kids. In Urban set-up, leave alone sex , parents do not even discuss about marriage relationship until the kids are adults. So kids growing up just have to assume(!) that they will be one day married also rather than growing up with a firm belief.

[pavalamani pragasam]

The maturity, the easy acceptance of life, a natural ripening are enviable aspects of ruarl life, I suppose. The place for horse sense and uncomplicated, rustic naivety are the wealth of our hamlets.

[pizzalot]

Urban children begin to seek answers from unauthorized sources. IMHO , it is better if they are introduced to the concepts of (supposedly) "evil" sex, drugs etc by their parents even before they develop the curiosity about it. Let them be explained what those are and what your opinion or position regarding those "tabus" are.

[blahblah]

Let me stir this up a bit. We speak about access to "adult content" and an age to access such content.

I have always wondered...driving through some of our Indian villages, you see huts on the roadside where people dwell. Not that I have actually been in one, but they look impossibly small to have more than 2 rooms. Lounging outside are kids of all ages, a grand mother chewing her vethalai, and a pregnant mother, seiving rice.

Where is the privacy in that house for the woman to have gotten pregnant? Yet she did! To those children there, how soon do the "facts of life" become apparant?

In farms where animals mating and giving birth to young ones is a matter of daily routine, which even a 4-5 year old is a witness to - would there be a need to "educate" children?

All this question of access and privacy and restrictions come only when there is enough wealth to afford it. In the rough and tough out there, what privacy, what age, what restriction?

I have always thought that those who appear on forumhub come straight from Buckingham Palace. It is nice to see there are some people who get out of their AC cabins once in a while. Thats for Badri. :)

As for teenagers, I feel that we do not need to cry for them. Surveys by institutes in wealthy nations are so stupid when considered under Indian conditions. They have no relevance in third world situations. I have seen some prats being brought up in U.S.
Our kids will grow like us.I can be so absolutely sure about it . It is not so necessary that every little girl should get pregnant when she is 16 or 17 years old(All due respect to Sarah Pallin as a mother).

Every child does not come out from the mother's womb dreaming about substance abuse, alcoholism, sex and stuff like that.

This is still a good world to live in!

[Roshan]

Hey blahblah.. Great to see you friend :D

Hope you are keeping well.

[P_R]

Watched a Maury (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maury_(TV_series))show special on teenagers and parenting (not parentage for once). ThAnga mudiyalai. This thread would lose half its patrons to coronaries had they seen it.

Let's observe a moment's silence wishing the parents of American teens the best of strength.

[thilak4life]

This is terrible dude! Maury Povich parades these poor people around like carnival freaks, and then give prizes at the end as if to justify it. What a dick!

:notworthy: Should watch the episode again..

[P_R]

[tscii:ab12955a63]Exacavated this thread to post this interview (http://pulsemedia.org/2010/06/29/gail-dines-how-pornland-destroys-intimacy-and-hijacks-sexuality/)


*பதினெண்கீழ்கணக்கர் படிக்காமல் புரட்டிடுக*

Sociologist Gail Diles' interview on how porn can't be taken lightly.



Q:Another common attitude or belief boys and men have toward pornography is “Well, that’s just a fantasy and I wouldn’t act that out in real life.” Do you see that as an excuse to legitimize pornography? Why is that problematic?

A:I address this in my book. As progressive people, we cannot bear that the right-wing media has the power to construct ideology in this country. None of us who are progressive will look at Fox News and say, “It’s just imagery; it’s just a fantasy; and it has no effect.” People can tell the difference between media and reality. We know media has the power to shift views and consolidate right-wing ideology.

Pornography is also a form of media representation. So why is it that Fox News and Rush Limbaugh have the power to change and shape society, and suddenly pornography is the only media form that has no effect? This whole fantasy issue is totally ludicrous. It takes no account of how images construct reality.
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