Under/Overrated movies.

[VENKIRAJA]

Discuss about such movies.A few come to my mind instantly:
Overrated:
Dhool
Ghajni
Minnale
Roja
Kadhalan

Underrated:
Rythm
En swaasa kaatre
Kanda naal mudhal
Naam
Priyamudan

[viraajan]

:hammer:

All good movies in your OR list :shock:

Kadhalan - Am not sure.

[viraajan]

Overrated:

Thirumalai
Thiruppachi
Sivakasi
Thiruppathi

Underrated:
Kudaikkul Mazhai
Anbe Sivam

[sarna_blr]

Overrated:

Thirumalai
Thiruppachi
Sivakasi
Thiruppathi

Underrated:
Kudaikkul Mazhai
Anbe Sivam

Vidhya :lol2: idhu boxoffice analysis thread illa :poke:

[viraajan]

Overrated:

Thirumalai
Thiruppachi
Sivakasi
Thiruppathi

Underrated:
Kudaikkul Mazhai
Anbe Sivam

Vidhya :lol2: idhu boxoffice analysis thread illa :poke:

:confused2:

[sarna_blr]

Top 10 over-rated movies

1.. Kaakha kaakha
2.. Vettayaadu vilayaadu
3.. Anniyan
4.. Sivaji
5.. Gentleman
6.. Kaadhalan
7.. Indian
8.. PudhupEttai
9...Guru
10..PKMC

[viraajan]

Anti-Shankar pola :poke:

[sarna_blr]

Overrated:

Thirumalai
Thiruppachi
Sivakasi
Thiruppathi

Underrated:
Kudaikkul Mazhai
Anbe Sivam

AFAIK, Anbesivam is not an under-rated movie :) but failed at office

but Kudaikkul mazhai is an under-rated movie :yes:

no comments on over-rated list :yessir:

[sarna_blr]

Anti-Shankar pola :poke:

My favourite movies of Shanker are Mudhalvan and Boyz :yes:

Remaining all of Shanker movies are crap and over-rated :bangcomp: :bangcomp: and looked liked mega-budget perarasu movies :oops2:

[Vivasaayi]

over rated -

alaipayuthey - the dialogues are more intelligent rather than being romantic

kannathil muthamitaal - maniratnam and his weird kid...

sometimes i feel its better maniratnams charecters speak lesser...because whatever they spoke in these two films sounded like "adhi medhavithanam"..


paruthiveeran :ashamed:

[Ramakrishna]

over-rated:
Anjaathey
Mozhi
Gajini
Kaakha Kaakha
Chithiram Pesuthadi
Pithamagan

under-rated:
Virumandi
Puthupettai
Anbe SIvam
Kalloori

[Ramakrishna]

Venki,
Surprising that u included Priyamudan in ur under-rated list. :o

[viraajan]

Remaining all of Shanker movies are crap and over-rated :bangcomp: :bangcomp: and looked liked mega-budget perarasu movies :oops2:

Too much, 3 much sarna :rant:

I dont agree with you. :(

Shankar movies such as Indian are really good movies. Aniiyan is a good movie, but there was something we missed in it :D

Boys - I love this movie barring few scenes and dialoges :D

[Vivasaayi]

among shankars movie

INDIAN
MUDHALVAN
GENTLEMAN

are extremely entertaining

[viraajan]

among shankars movie

INDIAN
MUDHALVAN
GENTLEMAN

are extremely entertaining

Boys also :D

[Ramakrishna]

among shankars movie

INDIAN
MUDHALVAN
GENTLEMAN

are extremely entertaining

Kadhalan too wud fit in i guess. :roll:

[hattori_hanzo]

Discuss about such movies.A few come to my mind instantly:
Overrated:
Dhool
Ghajni
Minnale
Roja
Kadhalan

Underrated:
Rythm
En swaasa kaatre
Kanda naal mudhal
Naam
Priyamudan

Does this movie deserve a rating?

[ajithfederer]

Am i browsing in my dreams?. Thats a horrible movie and not a rateable material. Most ajith fans hate this movie, Including yours truly :).

Overrated:
Thiruppathi

[viraajan]

Am i browsing in my dreams?. Thats a horrible movie and not a rateable material. Most ajith fans hate this movie, Including yours truly :).

Overrated:
Thiruppathi


Was that a flop? :roll:

I dint watch it. I thought it was a hit :yessir:

[Anban]

who are we to rate such movies??

[NOV]

who are we to rate such movies??
_________________

தமிழன்

[Thalafanz]

Am i browsing in my dreams?. Thats a horrible movie and not a rateable material. Most ajith fans hate this movie, Including yours truly :).

Overrated:
Thiruppathi


Was that a flop? :roll:

I dint watch it. I thought it was a hit :yessir:

Saar, It was neither a Super Hit or a flop. No distributers tasted loss out of it. We can safely call it a hit (to an extent).
What Feddy bro try to say here is, we as fans don't consider that crap as an Ajith movie at all. Appuram, ennatha overrated, underrated-nu rate pannittu... :banghead:

[Vivasaayi]

who are we to rate such movies??

yaaraa irundha othukuveenga?

[ajithfederer]

Yoga, romba nandri :).



Am i browsing in my dreams?. Thats a horrible movie and not a rateable material. Most ajith fans hate this movie, Including yours truly :).

Overrated:
Thiruppathi


Was that a flop? :roll:

I dint watch it. I thought it was a hit :yessir:

Saar, It was neither a Super Hit or a flop. No distributers tasted loss out of it. We can safely call it a hit (to an extent).
What Feddy bro try to say here is, we as fans don't consider that crap as an Ajith movie at all. Appuram, ennatha overrated, underrated-nu rate pannittu... :banghead:

[HonestRaj]

who are we to rate such movies??

yaaraa irundha othukuveenga?

:rotfl: :rotfl:

yov.. konja summa iruyya :rotfl:

[ Gounder fans'kkagave oru Hub meet vekkanum ]

[joe]

Overrated Movies

Ghajini
PuthuPettai
Chithiram Pesuthadi
Pokkiri

[Thalafanz]

Can someone give the proper definition of 'overrated', please???
Is it in the context of 'as far as hub makkal concern' or 'in general'??? :roll:

[joe]

Can someone give the proper definition of 'overrated', please???
Is it in the context of 'as far as hub makkal concern' or 'in general'??? :roll:

Atleast my list is not BO success ,but over appreciated movies,IMO

[sarna_blr]

Can someone give the proper definition of 'overrated', please???
Is it in the context of 'as far as hub makkal concern' or 'in general'??? :roll:

Over-rated in General or by critics.

I guess Paruthiveeran was praised sky-high by many critic pandits. If u feel that paruthiveeran doesnt deserve that much praising then u can say Paruthiveeran is over-rated :)

I have seen many critice praised KK by GM to sky-high, but I feel KK doesnt deserve it and so I said KK is Over-rated :)

[sarna_blr]

Yoga, naan sonnadhu purinjadhaa :roll:

[sarna_blr]

Under-rated movies

1.. Attahaasam
2.. Pollaadhavan
3. Rythm
4.. Azhagiya theeyE
5.. Priyamaana thozhi

will continue :twisted:

[joe]

Few Underrated movies ,IMO

Dum Dum Dum
Kodampakkam
Paandavar Boomi

[MADDY]

overrated movies in HUB :

1. pattiyal - scene to scene copy of bangkok dangerous, i never understood why our HUB pundits praise it so much
2. pudhupettai - nothing jaw dropping but still considered a classic by some
3. pithamagan - ahhh, cant stand this movie
4. raam - pure crap from my fav director
5. anbe sivam - i felt characterisations of madhavan, naseer in this movie was too naive to make it a classic...and msg too was brought out in a unconvincing manner

under rated by HUB:
1. all maniratnam movies
2. most shankar movies esp kadhalan - jail torture scenes wud have made someone like bala proud....mudhalvan was 'the screenplay of last decade'......
3. vettaiyadu vilayadu - i still dont get whats wrong in the movie.....enakku padippu arivu konjam kammio??? am i missing something? one of most subtle kamal performances
4. Varalaaru - one of the most entertaining movies.......if surya or vikram had acted in this movie, it wud have got a altogether response in hub...
5. alli arjuna - best script of saran till date :(

[complicateur]

Mounam Pesiyathe. Ulagaththula enakku mattum thaan inthapadam pidichcha maathiri oru feeling. Please note: I am not calling it a classic. I enjoyed it as a lark and a decent first attempt at film making. Also the exceptional BGM helped.

[Vivasaayi]

Mounam Pesiyathe. Ulagaththula enakku mattum thaan inthapadam pidichcha maathiri oru feeling. Please note: I am not calling it a classic. I enjoyed it as a lark and a decent first attempt at film making. Also the exceptional BGM helped.

come on!

its one of my most fav movies....never got tired of watching this movie.

the only movie from ameer which i loved.

[Nerd]

under rated by HUB:
1. all maniratnam movies
3333 much :lol:

[complicateur]

Mounam Pesiyathe. Ulagaththula enakku mattum thaan inthapadam pidichcha maathiri oru feeling. Please note: I am not calling it a classic. I enjoyed it as a lark and a decent first attempt at film making. Also the exceptional BGM helped.

come on!

its one of my most fav movies....never got tired of watching this movie.

the only movie from ameer which i loved.

hAbba. Not alone then. For some reason I liked Surya's unfussiness contrasted with Nanda's over-exertion. The best scenes, IMO, were the ones between Nanda's dad and Surya.

[joe]

Kannathil Muththamittal - Underrated
Iruvar - Overrated.

[Vivasaayi]

surya was :thumbsup:

"ingirundhu nera poyi right edutheenganna...(changes his expresion)...anga oru police station irukkum..anga poyi kelu...solluvanga"

:lol:

[Vivasaayi]

Kannathil Muththamittal - Underrated
Iruvar - Overrated.

NOOOOOOOOO

kannathil muthamittaal - over rated

iruvar - underrated

[ajithfederer]

Ponnugalukaagellam sandai poda mudiadhu :rotfl: :rotfl: :thumbsup:

:notworthy:

[m_23_bayarea]

Discuss about such movies.A few come to my mind instantly:
Overrated:
Dhool
Ghajni
Minnale
Roja
Kadhalan


I can only see KADHALAN that may be in this list... :oops:

[selvakumar]

Let us all add another information with this list. The info on where we saw the respective films (in theater or DVD).
I had bad experience with many movies in theater.

[ajithfederer]

Anbe sivam overrated aa?. Message unconvincing way aa?

The movie was a flop, for godsakes :twisted:

overrated movies in HUB :

1. pattiyal - scene to scene copy of bangkok dangerous, i never understood why our HUB pundits praise it so much
2. pudhupettai - nothing jaw dropping but still considered a classic by some
3. pithamagan - ahhh, cant stand this movie
4. raam - pure crap from my fav director
5. anbe sivam - i felt characterisations of madhavan, naseer in this movie was too naive to make it a classic...and msg too was brought out in a unconvincing manner

under rated by HUB:
1. all maniratnam movies
2. most shankar movies esp kadhalan - jail torture scenes wud have made someone like bala proud....mudhalvan was 'the screenplay of last decade'......
3. vettaiyadu vilayadu - i still dont get whats wrong in the movie.....enakku padippu arivu konjam kammio??? am i missing something? one of most subtle kamal performances
4. Varalaaru - one of the most entertaining movies.......if surya or vikram had acted in this movie, it wud have got a altogether response in hub...
5. alli arjuna - best script of saran till date :(

[Nerd]

Overrated
1. KAkka kAkka
2. VV
3. Guna
4. SarOjA
5. 6 to 60

[joe]

Kannathil Muththamittal - Underrated
Iruvar - Overrated.

NOOOOOOOOO

kannathil muthamittaal - over rated

iruvar - underrated

Forgot to add 'IMO' :lol:

[Vivasaayi]

under rated -satya

its among kamals classics...but underrated

[ajithfederer]

:yes:

under rated -satya

its among kamals classics...but underrated

[joe]

Sathya , Unnaal mudiyum Thampi - Underrated

[Vivasaayi]

sathileelavathi - its right there with mmkr...but definitely underrated

[Shakthiprabha.]

Aboorva sahotharargaL nice strong smelling masala movie :oops: very much over-rated.

[Vivasaayi]

johnny - under rated definitely.

[MrIndia]

virumandi - underrated
dasa - over rated

[littlemaster1982]

Aboorva sahotharargaL nice strong smelling masala movie :oops: very much over-rated.

:shock: :shock:

[joe]

sathileelavathi - its right there with mmkr...but definitely underrated

Is it? :roll:

I prefered Sathileelavathi over MMKR

[Vivasaayi]

Aboorva sahotharargaL nice strong smelling masala movie :oops: very much over-rated.

:lol:

its highly rated as a masala movie - not as a classic.

its a perfect entertainer.

infact in provided a new approach - the plot was so serious - brutal revenge on a murder ...but it was handled thru out comically

its a classic entertainer

[Shakthiprabha.]

Aboorva sahotharargaL nice strong smelling masala movie :oops: very much over-rated.

:shock: :shock:

:oops: Had this posted on similar grounds few years back in hub and got similar expressions :oops: as response!

Dunno why I am not ofnd of the movie, I JUST AM NOT fond of it. One of the very few kamalhassan's movie which totally puts me off.

[Vivasaayi]

sathileelavathi - its right there with mmkr...but definitely underrated

Is it? :roll:

I prefered Sathileelavathi over MMKR

but sathi leelavathi was not rated as highly as mmkr as far as i know

[littlemaster1982]

Aboorva sahotharargaL nice strong smelling masala movie :oops: very much over-rated.

:shock: :shock:

:oops: Had this posted on similar grounds few years back in hub and got similar expressions :oops: as response!

Dunno why I am not ofnd of the movie, I JUST AM NOT fond of it. One of the very few kamalhassan's movie which totally puts me off.

No matter how many times I see this film, I never get bored. One of the best screenplays of Kamal.

Ippadhaan indha padatthai overrated-nu oruthar solli kelvi padaren :?

[m_23_bayarea]

GHILLI - Too over-rated! I agree it's a good movie... But I still can't understand why it became one of Vijay's biggest blockbusters! I like POKKIRI much better though... 8-)

Sivakasi and Thirupachi - I have no idea how these movies even became hits to begin with! :roll:

Well, this is only for Vijay. I will try to list down for other actors too... :P

Sounds like this thread is gonna create a gang-bang situation for many... :lol:

[Shakthiprabha.]

bay,

That was a hit (sivagasi etc types) but I supp it was NOT RATED high :? (if we know the diff between super duper hits and movies which are rated high :? )

[joe]

AlaigaL ooyvathillai ,KiLakke pogum Rayil - Overrated (except Music)

[joe]

En Uyir Thozhan -Underrated

[Vivasaayi]

AlaigaL ooyvathillai ,KiLakke pogum Rayil - Overrated (except Music)

infact many barathiraja movies.

[Shakthiprabha.]

AlaigaL ooyvathillai ,KiLakke pogum Rayil - Overrated (except Music)

infact many barathiraja movies.

true!

[m_23_bayarea]

Well in our HUB, there is also this prevailing culture that so many movies of actors that have more number of fans are highly over-rated, and vice-versa! :oops:

Almost every movie of some actors are called "classics", whereas for actors that have less number of fans, even the good ones are called "over-rated".... :roll:

[Vivasaayi]

Nizhal Nijamagiradhu - underrated as a movie and also kamals performance.

one of the coolest performances in tamil cinema.

[viraajan]

Nizhal Nijamagiradhu - underrated as a movie and also kamals performance.

one of the coolest performances in tamil cinema.

This rings a bell.

Can i add Raaja Paarvai with this. Am not sure whether it was a hit or flop. But my Kelvi Gnanam says that it was a flop and Kamal's acting was unparalled. :confused2:

[ajithfederer]

Ayyagoooo!!!

Appu character-ae pudikadhavangalum irukaangala :).



Aboorva sahotharargaL nice strong smelling masala movie :oops: very much over-rated.

:shock: :shock:

:oops: Had this posted on similar grounds few years back in hub and got similar expressions :oops: as response!

Dunno why I am not ofnd of the movie, I JUST AM NOT fond of it. One of the very few kamalhassan's movie which totally puts me off.

[Shakthiprabha.]

Ayyagoooo!!!

Appu character-ae pudikadhavangalum irukaangala :).



Aboorva sahotharargaL nice strong smelling masala movie :oops: very much over-rated.

:shock: :shock:

:oops: Had this posted on similar grounds few years back in hub and got similar expressions :oops: as response!

Dunno why I am not ofnd of the movie, I JUST AM NOT fond of it. One of the very few kamalhassan's movie which totally puts me off.

irukkEnE :D

[ajithfederer]

No comments, zimbly waste :twisted: :lol2:


Ayyagoooo!!!

Appu character-ae pudikadhavangalum irukaangala :).



Aboorva sahotharargaL nice strong smelling masala movie :oops: very much over-rated.

:shock: :shock:

:oops: Had this posted on similar grounds few years back in hub and got similar expressions :oops: as response!

Dunno why I am not ofnd of the movie, I JUST AM NOT fond of it. One of the very few kamalhassan's movie which totally puts me off.

irukkEnE :D

[Shakthiprabha.]

:shhh:

save ur energy

//end dign :D

[Movie Cop]

Overrated:
-------------
1. Kadhal Kondein :rotfl:
2. Anniyan :twisted:
3. Ghasini :banghead:
4. Sennai - Tonty Eight :roll:

Underrated:
--------------
1. Boys
2. Thavamai Thavam Irundhu
3. Kaloori

[m_23_bayarea]

2. Anniyan :twisted:
3. Ghasini :banghead:


I'm glad you put these two as over-rated! I always thought they both were very under-rated (especially ANNIYAN)! :P

[Movie Cop]

2. Anniyan :twisted:
3. Ghasini :banghead:


I'm glad you put these two as over-rated! I always thought they both were very under-rated (especially ANNIYAN)! :P
Bay dude,
I was not referring to the acting of Vikram or Surya here. They both did their part well... But the overall hype, reviews & WOM from the audience for both the movies were clearly overrated, IMO! :)

[Thalafanz]

Iyarkhai - under-rated... What do u guys think??? :)

[Movie Cop]

Iyarkhai - under-rated... What do u guys think??? :)
Haven't seen Iyarkai. :oops: But have heard some postive reviews about the movie though...

[sarna_blr]

Mounam Pesiyathe. Ulagaththula enakku mattum thaan inthapadam pidichcha maathiri oru feeling. Please note: I am not calling it a classic. I enjoyed it as a lark and a decent first attempt at film making. Also the exceptional BGM helped.

Mounam pEsiyadhE is a FANTASTIC movie :yes: I loved each and every scene of the movie , Frankly speaking Surya was ultimate in this movie :D and his acting was even better than Pithamagan :yessir:
I became Ameer fan from this movie, and from then he never dissappointed me :boo:

I personnally feel that Mounam pEsiyadhEy was tailore made movie for Ajith :oops:

[swathy]

Anti-Shankar pola :poke:

My favourite movies of Shanker are Mudhalvan and Boyz :yes:

Remaining all of Shanker movies are crap and over-rated :bangcomp: :bangcomp: and looked liked mega-budget perarasu movies :oops2:


shankare romba guiltya feel panna padam boys nnu solli irundharu :roll:

[sarna_blr]

Anti-Shankar pola :poke:

My favourite movies of Shanker are Mudhalvan and Boyz :yes:

Remaining all of Shanker movies are crap and over-rated :bangcomp: :bangcomp: and looked liked mega-budget perarasu movies :oops2:


shankare romba guiltya feel panna padam boys nnu solli irundharu :roll:

Padaththa release panradhukku munnaala sonnaaraa :roll:

[VENKIRAJA]

Mounam Pesiyathe. Ulagaththula enakku mattum thaan inthapadam pidichcha maathiri oru feeling. Please note: I am not calling it a classic. I enjoyed it as a lark and a decent first attempt at film making. Also the exceptional BGM helped.

come on!

its one of my most fav movies....never got tired of watching this movie.

the only movie from ameer which i loved.

hAbba. Not alone then. For some reason I liked Surya's unfussiness contrasted with Nanda's over-exertion. The best scenes, IMO, were the ones between Nanda's dad and Surya.

Exactly.Super padam.
Underrated:
*Aaha(Nice family drama)
*Kana Kanden(Prithiviraj is awesome IMO,if we make a list of say 25 villains of TFI,he definitely deserves a place for this movie)
*Aaniver(I just saw this movie yesterday and found it very good.Sad that so many ppl are totally unaware of the movie)
*Kalloori(Pucca depiction of a rural college life)

Overrated:
*Manmadhan
*Baasha(I don't know why,except for the villain,the movie really sucks)
*7G(Irritating lead roles.Music is the only saving grace)

[Shakthiprabha.]

Iyarkhai - under-rated... What do u guys think??? :)

very much! :( :)

[Raikkonen]

Under-Rated

{ my opinion only
Tirupachi is one of my fav movie of all time. Many call it mokkai and such, but i loved it more than ghilli and his other action movies. /}

pista is criminally under-rated. out and out comedy movie, but for whatever reasons it never makes it to people's top comedy movies' list.

unnal mudiyum thambi -Tremendous story and screenplay. but never gets mentioned on same degree as nayagan,AS and TTT.

Overrated

Ghajini - no logic in screenplay at all.

Sethu - WAY over-rated, i still don't know what was so special about the movie.

sakalakalavallavan - not even a question. good songs but pathetic comedy, midnite masala duets, old story. List goes on.

[Vivasaayi]

RAIKKO

TTT?

oru kaidhiyin diary - under rated

[Raikkonen]

toongathey thambi toongathey

[Vivasaayi]

toongathey thambi toongathey
i dont think anyone would rate it along with AS,Nayagan etc

definitely UMT is underrated

[bimmer]

My List

Overrated Movies
Dhool, Kasi, Dasavatharam, Shivaji, Anniyan, Baasha, Saamy, Aaru, Paramasivan, Tirupachi, Sivakasi, Tirupathi, Sethu

Underrated Movies
Anbe Sivam, Kireedom, Arilirundhu Aruvathu Varai, TTT, Mounam Pesiathey, UMT...

[viraajan]

*Kana Kanden(Prithiviraj is awesome IMO,if we make a list of say 25 villains of TFI,he definitely deserves a place for this movie)

Overrated:
*Manmadhan
*Baasha(I don't know why,except for the villain,the movie really sucks)
*7G(Irritating lead roles.Music is the only saving grace)

Kana Kanden was well recieved i gues.. :roll:

Basha? :shock:

7G - Partly agree. But definitely not overrated :) The second half, especially the climax (not the last 10 mins) were really great :bow:
Music - the best :)

[VENKIRAJA]

Basha? :shock:


Tell me something great about Baadsha...(Stop this indha scene-la SS gethu adichukka mudiyathu etc. bullsh!t)It was a typical masala movie.Rajni oru badA lOg.AnA athu yArukkumE theriyAthu.There is a flashback,and a stupid friend gets killed in that and he takes his name and takes revenge on the killer.And the none knows about him concept was already beaten to death by him itself,and again-in Arunachalam,Panakkaran,velaikaran,Muthu and all.I already told you.Minus the Raghuvaran factor and Baadsha becomes :roll:



7G - Partly agree. But definitely not overrated :) The second half, especially the climax (not the last 10 mins) were really great :bow:
Music - the best :)

Watch Grave of the fireflies.Selva is inspired or to some extent ripped off the climax and in some ways the screenplay itself(I mean the first and last scenes)

[selvakumar]

Tell me something great about Baadsha..
Can't agree with you Venki. It is a masala movie. Agreed. However, Rajini, Raghuvaran factor and a perfect screenplay made it up for everything. I won't say it is overrated. As a masala, it is certainly worth a watch many times. Rajini was also quite energetic in that role. It is still rated as a masala if I am not wrong :?

[ShereneAndrew]

Over-rated:

IMO

MMKR
Baasha
Sivaji
Singara velan
Aboorva Sagodarargal
Sethu


to be continued...

Under-Rated
IMO

UMT
Samurai
Mounam pesiyathey


to be continued.. ( lot more.. ippathiki nyabagam varala :oops: )

[VENKIRAJA]

Tell me something great about Baadsha..
Can't agree with you Venki. It is a masala movie. Agreed. However, Rajini, Raghuvaran factor and a perfect screenplay made it up for everything. I won't say it is overrated. As a masala, it is certainly worth a watch many times. Rajini was also quite energetic in that role. It is still rated as a masala if I am not wrong :?

A flashback inside a flashback and thats what you call a great screenplay.I won't say I don't like the movie.I'd rather say I hate the movie.Anyways,Just my opinion.I never want guys to agree to it.

[Nerd]

BatshA's story is not the same as that of any of rajini's previous movies. In fact its the father of numerous don flicks, some of which ripped of the story/screenplay. Theriyaama pesakoodAdhu. If you done like it, fine. but it was not overrated, we did not send that to oscars and the critics did not give awards. It had one of the best screenplays for a masala movie...

[Vivasaayi]

Over-rated:

IMO

MMKR

Sethu




whhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttttttttt? :?

[selvakumar]

A flashback inside a flashback and thats what you call a great screenplay..
:notthatway: Ithanaala screenplay and paceukku enna prachanai vanthathu :roll:


I won't say I don't like the movie.I'd rather say I hate the movie.Anyways,Just my opinion.I never want guys to agree to it
:rotfl: Apadiyae PETER gumbloda blog padikkira maari irukku.. (kovichikaatha :P ) It is your opinon.

[Vivasaayi]

badshah is not claimed to be a classic by anyone - its just rated as an entertainer!

but to rate it as the "best" entertainer of rajni(told by many fans) - definitely over rated in this respect

[selvakumar]

Nerd, I don't understand your post. I heard Baasha itself was inspired from a hindi movie. (Of course, I don't have proof). How will *this factor* make it a great movie ? Sorry, I don't agree on this logic

[Hulkster]

Tell me something great about Baadsha...(Stop this indha scene-la SS gethu adichukka mudiyathu etc. bullsh!t)It was a typical masala movie.Rajni oru badA lOg.AnA athu yArukkumE theriyAthu.There is a flashback,and a stupid friend gets killed in that and he takes his name and takes revenge on the killer.And the none knows about him concept was already beaten to death by him itself,and again-in Arunachalam,Panakkaran,velaikaran,Muthu and all.I already told you.Minus the Raghuvaran factor and Baadsha becomes :roll:


Venkiraja when you look at certain films yes they may lack the logic but looking at baasha from a script/story point of view is cardinal sin. They are entertainers just as much as attagasam,saamy,vel,thirupachi etc. Some crap, some made interesting with twisting screenplays and some saved by just mere acting. Baasha had alot of admirable rajini/raghuvaran scenes where they just ooze with emotions while the rest was just super ordinary. It ran because of this USP.

Its not overrated as nobody ever stated that it was a fantastic storyline rather it was remembered mostly for the rajini-raghuvaran faceoff scenes and most of rajini's enticing expressions(particularly the scene where he gets his torn down auto with a smile).

I notice that of late you have been going on a "delicious"-film marathon which has been affecting your reviews on certain films. Its to be noted that a film's most important end product is to entertain the audience no matter what the storyline and films here(like baasha) are made to go directly for the audience's senses with their actors as the focal point. Film industry is also a money-making industry if you did not notice.

[sarna_blr]

A flashback inside a flashback and thats what you call a great screenplay.I won't say I don't like the movie.I'd rather say I hate the movie.Anyways,Just my opinion.I never want guys to agree to it.

Venky, I agree to u .

1.. Batsha is not a great movie and extemely over-rated.
2.. It doesnt have a great screeplay.

But one thing is for sure, I cant Imagine Batsha without Rajini 8-) and I cant imagine Antony without Raguvaran. Batsha is a tailore-made story for Rajini and Raguvaran :)
ivanga rendupErayum eduththuttu paaththaa , batsha is nothing. 8-)

[VENKIRAJA]

BatshA's story is not the same as that of any of rajini's previous movies. In fact its the father of numerous don flicks, some of which ripped of the story/screenplay. Theriyaama pesakoodAdhu. If you done like it, fine. but it was not overrated, we did not send that to oscars and the critics did not give awards. It had one of the best screenplays for a masala movie...

Nerd aNNAyA,
I know it would evoke such response.But what I wanted to mean is that it is rated above Padayappa,which is even better than Baatsha.IMO,it has a better screenplay.I don't wanna drag this.

[ShereneAndrew]

Over-rated:

IMO

MMKR

Sethu




whhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttttttttt? :?

athaaan IMO pottu irukene :roll: .. i know this reaction wld come from someone :twisted:

[sarna_blr]

Tell me something great about Baadsha...(Stop this indha scene-la SS gethu adichukka mudiyathu etc. bullsh!t)It was a typical masala movie.Rajni oru badA lOg.AnA athu yArukkumE theriyAthu.There is a flashback,and a stupid friend gets killed in that and he takes his name and takes revenge on the killer.And the none knows about him concept was already beaten to death by him itself,and again-in Arunachalam,Panakkaran,velaikaran,Muthu and all.I already told you.Minus the Raghuvaran factor and Baadsha becomes :roll:


Venkiraja when you look at certain films yes they may lack the logic but looking at baasha from a script/story point of view is cardinal sin. They are entertainers just as much as attagasam,saamy,vel,thirupachi etc. Some crap, some made interesting with twisting screenplays and some saved by just mere acting. Baasha had alot of admirable rajini/raghuvaran scenes where they just ooze with emotions while the rest was just super ordinary. It ran because of this USP.

Its not overrated as nobody ever stated that it was a fantastic storyline rather it was remembered mostly for the rajini-raghuvaran faceoff scenes and most of rajini's enticing expressions(particularly the scene where he gets his torn down auto with a smile).

I notice that of late you have been going on a "delicious"-film marathon which has been affecting your reviews on certain films. Its to be noted that a film's most important end product is to entertain the audience no matter what the storyline and films here(like baasha) are made to go directly for the audience's senses with their actors as the focal point. Film industry is also a money-making industry if you did not notice.

Exactly my thought :P I dont have this much command over english or presentation skill to put it like this :oops:

[VENKIRAJA]

badshah is not claimed to be a classic by anyone - its just rated as an entertainer!

but to rate it as the "best" entertainer of rajni(told by many fans) - definitely over rated in this respect
Exactly my thoughts.I didn't mean it wasn't good.(Personal opinion-A vittu thaLLunga.pidikAtha padam is different from nalla padam)I meant it was over-rated.

[villan007]

Nerd aNNAyA,
I know it would evoke such response.But what I wanted to mean is that it is rated above Padayappa,which is even better than Baatsha.IMO,it has a better screenplay.I don't wanna drag this.

baasha is 100 times better than padayappa... andha pump edukra scene onnu porum :bow: the only thing that was better in padayappa is music....

[bimmer]

Nerd aNNAyA,
I know it would evoke such response.But what I wanted to mean is that it is rated above Padayappa,which is even better than Baatsha.IMO,it has a better screenplay.I don't wanna drag this.

baasha is 100 times better than padayappa... andha pump edukra scene onnu porum :bow: the only thing that was better in padayappa is music....

Baasha was better than Padayappa and as a matter of fact It was Better than Sivaji..Leaving out the Songs Picturizations.

[Shakthiprabha.]

I agree with venkiraja! (once again?)

padaiyappa was better than baasha.

[VENKIRAJA]

Venkiraja when you look at certain films yes they may lack the logic but looking at baasha from a script/story point of view is cardinal sin. They are entertainers just as much as attagasam,saamy,vel,thirupachi etc. Some crap, some made interesting with twisting screenplays and some saved by just mere acting. Baasha had alot of admirable rajini/raghuvaran scenes where they just ooze with emotions while the rest was just super ordinary. It ran because of this USP.

Its not overrated as nobody ever stated that it was a fantastic storyline rather it was remembered mostly for the rajini-raghuvaran faceoff scenes and most of rajini's enticing expressions(particularly the scene where he gets his torn down auto with a smile).

I notice that of late you have been going on a "delicious"-film marathon which has been affecting your reviews on certain films. Its to be noted that a film's most important end product is to entertain the audience no matter what the storyline and films here(like baasha) are made to go directly for the audience's senses with their actors as the focal point. Film industry is also a money-making industry if you did not notice.

AGREED.

[Nerd]

Selva, what I meant was bAtshA set a trend of such don flicks. It was loosely inspired by hum. Not like other rajini remakes in which the story/screenplay was the same.

[sarna_blr]

I agree with venkiraja! (once again?)

padaiyappa was better than baasha.

I agree million billion zillion times with Venky and SP akka :)

Padayappa is complete entertainer wr I cant ignore a single scene.

But in the case Batsha, I will watch ONLY selected scenes.

[viraajan]

Tell me something great about Baadsha...(Stop this indha scene-la SS gethu adichukka mudiyathu etc. bullsh!t)It was a typical masala movie.Rajni oru badA lOg.AnA athu yArukkumE theriyAthu.There is a flashback,and a stupid friend gets killed in that and he takes his name and takes revenge on the killer.And the none knows about him concept was already beaten to death by him itself,and again-in Arunachalam,Panakkaran,velaikaran,Muthu and all.I already told you.Minus the Raghuvaran factor and Baadsha becomes :roll:

Everything is great in baasha except few scenes and illlogical scenes... it was a trend setting movie at that time...

Am not ready to argue now as your opinion about this movie is not at all plausible... So... :yessir:


Watch Grave of the fireflies.Selva is inspired or to some extent ripped off the climax and in some ways the screenplay itself(I mean the first and last scenes)

Oops... Kai vachuttana :banghead:

Still, inspired-na ok... rip na :hammer:

Irundhalum, 7G will be in my fav list :)

[viraajan]

Nerd aNNAyA,
I know it would evoke such response.But what I wanted to mean is that it is rated above Padayappa,which is even better than Baatsha.IMO,it has a better screenplay.I don't wanna drag this.

baasha is 100 times better than padayappa... andha pump edukra scene onnu porum :bow: the only thing that was better in padayappa is music....

Kambathula katti vachu adikkara scene :bow: :boo: :redjump:

[thamizhvaanan]

Raghuvaran ovvoru building a poi bomb vekkradha photo eduthu kaamikra scene :lol2:

[viraajan]

I agree with venkiraja! (once again?)

padaiyappa was better than baasha.

Enna porutha varaikkum, baadsha oru kannu-na, padayappa innoru kannu... enakku rendume venum :redjump: :yessir: Renduthukkum equal marks :yes:

[interz]

Overrated:
Mazhai (Just an excuse to show Shreya in wet sarees)
Aaru (the most violent movie IMO)
Pollathavan (I hate that movie so much)
Vasegaara (one of the few movies I hate by Vijay)
Arasangam (hit or flop, the story was uninteresting IMO)
Uliyin Osai ( Only number one movie in Kalaingar TV)

Underrated:
Jerry (quite a funny movie IMO)
Ah Aah (adult humour)
12b (wouldnt you like to watch a movie with Jyothika and Simran)
Lesa Lesa (sema comedy and serious, except the boob grabbing scene in flashback)

[Movie Cop]

Overrated
sakalakalavallavan - not even a question. good songs but pathetic comedy, midnite masala duets, old story. List goes on.
SKV (though the biggest blockbuster during it's times) - I do not recall it was ever over-rated even during the early 80's.
Even a hard core KH fan would despise that movie - it's worse than a Perarasu movie! :twisted:

[Shakthiprabha.]

Overrated
sakalakalavallavan - not even a question. good songs but pathetic comedy, midnite masala duets, old story. List goes on.
SKV (though the biggest blockbuster during it's times) - I do not recall it was ever over-rated even during the early 80's.
Even a hard core KH fan would despise that movie - it's worse than a Perarasu movie! :twisted:

Cant agree more :sigh2:

[Movie Cop]

Overrated
sakalakalavallavan - not even a question. good songs but pathetic comedy, midnite masala duets, old story. List goes on.
SKV (though the biggest blockbuster during it's times) - I do not recall it was ever over-rated even during the early 80's.
Even a hard core KH fan would despise that movie - it's worse than a Perarasu movie! :twisted:

Cant agree more :sigh2:
It is one movie where you see a KH (w/o any screen presence) and everything about the movie is cliched, cliched and cliched right from the word go!
I have seen the movie (just once) in Alankar theatre at the time of release since then I had never seen it. But few months back, I tried to revisit SKV just for KH. 20 minutes mela padatha thaanga mudiyale... :sigh2:

[Shakthiprabha.]

MC,

I think songs (few of them) were the only solace :)

[Movie Cop]

MC,

I think songs (few of them) were the only solace :)
Yes - "Illamai Idho Idho" was a rage/chartbuster during those times! There are also couple of other songs in it that were very popular those days (though for all the wrong reasons :oops:)

[sarna_blr]

Under-rated movies

1. Vaseegara - 1st half was really very good :) Vijay's comedy were rocking , only the last 20 mins will be dragging.
but vassegara is extremely under-rated :banghead: Actor Vijay'yE indha hub'la under-rated actordhaan :banghead: :banghead: one actor who can dance excellently, act well, deliver dialogue with elegance etc .

[VENKIRAJA]

Under-rated movies

1. Vaseegara - 1st half was really very good :) Vijay's comedy were rocking , only the last 20 mins will be dragging.
but vassegara is extremely under-rated :banghead: Actor Vijay'yE indha hub'la under-rated actordhaan :banghead: :banghead: one actor who can dance excellently, act well, deliver dialogue with elegance etc .

He acts quite well,for instance in my fav movie of his-Priyamudan.But the problem is he doesn't vary his style.He just does the 'NNA thing over and over.He is stereo-typed.Thats the problem.If you vaseegara and sachin,you won't know the difference.Just exchange the roles and still both the roles of Vijay would look the same.Its high time he realises this. :roll:

[sarna_blr]

He acts quite well,for instance in my fav movie of his-Priyamudan.

not only Priyamudan, but TMT, KM, Thirumalai, Kushi , gilli etc



But the problem is he doesn't vary his style.He just does the 'NNA thing over and over.He is stereo-typed.Thats the problem.If you vaseegara and sachin,you won't know the difference.Just exchange the roles and still both the roles of Vijay would look the same.Its high time he realises this. :roll:

I can pull in MGR here, but I feel better to agree here :P

[VENKIRAJA]

He acts quite well,for instance in my fav movie of his-Priyamudan.

not only Priyamudan, but TMT, KM, Thirumalai, Kushi , gilli etc


Might agree partly-TMT and KM alone.Also in Priyamanavale.The fact that most of them were remakes :roll: make them not rateable(Don't start with the saani thing now. :oops: )To me Thirumalai and Sivakasi were almost same :( .Vijay fans-thappa eduthukaathenga:Vijay ennaikaavathu avaroda character seyya vENdiya vElaiya senjirukArA?In sivakasi he'll be a welding shop owner-he'll never work there.Same goes to thirumalai mechanic.J/K

[sarna_blr]

Might agree partly-TMT and KM alone.Also in Priyamanavale.The fact that most of them were remakes :roll: make them not rateable

I thought we were speaking abt Vijay's acting capability :roll: but u r speaking abt movies poorveegam :o



To me Thirumalai and Sivakasi were almost same :( .

I cant agree wrt to Vijay's acting :)



Vijay fans-thappa eduthukaathenga:Vijay ennaikaavathu avaroda character seyya vENdiya vElaiya senjirukArA?In sivakasi he'll be a welding shop owner-he'll never work there.Same goes to thirumalai mechanic.J/K

vittaa sachin college student'aa iruppaaru, aana book eduththu padichchadhE illEnu solveenga pOla :twisted:

[VENKIRAJA]

J/K

vittaa sachin college student'aa iruppaaru, aana book eduththu padichchadhE illEnu solveenga pOla :twisted:

athAn Just kidding-nu pOttirukEnE!
Anyways,Thirumalai ellAm sellAthu sellAthu.

[sarna_blr]

Anyways,Thirumalai ellAm sellAthu sellAthu.

:twisted:

sari vittudalaam :)

[sarna_blr]

Alli Arjuna - an extremely uner-rated movie :rant:

[VENKIRAJA]

Alli Arjuna - an extremely under-rated movie :rant:

prachanayE athula oruthan varuvAnE avan thAn.. petha kadanukku pAvam saran-a vachu ARR-a vachu...

[sarna_blr]

Alli Arjuna - an extremely under-rated movie :rant:

prachanayE athula oruthan varuvAnE avan thAn.. petha kadanukku pAvam saran-a vachu ARR-a vachu...

He didnt irritate me :P

Alli Arjuna is Saran's best IMHO .

[VENKIRAJA]

Alli Arjuna - an extremely under-rated movie :rant:

prachanayE athula oruthan varuvAnE avan thAn.. petha kadanukku pAvam saran-a vachu ARR-a vachu...

He didnt irritate me :P

Alli Arjuna is Saran's best IMHO .

1. Kadhal Mannan
2. Amarkalam
3. Attagasam

IMVHO.

[jaaze]

Underrated - Baba

[groucho070]

Underrated - Baba :D
:thumbsup:
Who's paying you guys to be the Hub thread archeologists?

[bimmer]

Underrated

Anbe Sivam
Kadhal Mannan
Baba
Vaseegara

Overrated

Naan Kadavul
Subramaniapuram
Vennila Kabadi Kuzhu

[jaaze]

Overrated

Chithiram Pesuthadi
Pammal K Sambandham


Underrated

Aalavandhan
Hey Ram
Ellam Avan Seyal
Arasatchi

Both underrated & overrated by some

Vasool Raja MBBS

[sgokulprathap]

Overrated

Naan Kadavul
Subramaniapuram
Vennila Kabadi Kuzhu I agree with u completely on the overrated movies.

[Nerd]

Who's paying you guys to be the Hub thread archeologists?
:rotfl:

[bimmer]

Overrated

Naan Kadavul
Subramaniapuram
Vennila Kabadi Kuzhu I agree with u completely on the overrated movies.

Thank You :D :D :D

Iam glad on our Opinion match