IR's New albums - Ver 2008/2009

[Hulkster]

Lets continue Maestro Isaiyaraaja's albums here. :D

[Plum]

jai, thats a point of view. But Cheeni Kum is a fine album by itself. IR has never been about tune alone so why fret when it *has not been remixed* but re-orchestrated and re-created?
Jotheyalli is heaven for various reasons but the Street-performing percussion section in Cheeni Kum for the same tune alone makes it a worthwhile independent song. Sometimes, it is about sacred cows. For me Jotheyalli isnta sacred cow though it is a huge, huge favourite.

[raja_fan]

http://specials.rediff.com/movies/2008/sep/15sli1.htm

Ilayaraja Sir (music director) asked me whether I want any song like Vaala Meenukkum. I told him to do what comes to his mind. I wanted simple and different tunes.

[Sanjeevi]

http://specials.rediff.com/movies/2008/sep/15sli1.htm

Ilayaraja Sir (music director) asked me whether I want any song like Vaala Meenukkum. I told him to do what comes to his mind. I wanted simple and different tunes.

nallavelai myskin thappichar :lol:

[selvakumar]

http://specials.rediff.com/movies/2008/sep/15sli1.htm

Ilayaraja Sir (music director) asked me whether I want any song like Vaala Meenukkum. I told him to do what comes to his mind. I wanted simple and different tunes.

nallavelai myskin thappichar :lol:

Paattu vanthathukku appuram paarkalaam.. I would like Myskin to get whatever he wants instead of accepting whatever it given. :roll:

[MrJudge]

Paattu vanthathukku appuram paarkalaam.. I would like Myskin to get whatever he wants instead of accepting whatever it given. :roll:

Yes, me too. IR needs demanding directors. I hope IR would have done something special to nandhalAlA.

[rooky]

http://sify.com/movies/telugu/fullstory.php?id=14759997

"Mallepuvvu, directed by V Samudra and penned by Ramesh Varma, is the latest from the actress and it is getting released on September 19th"

[inetk]

[tscii:887c304151]"The other good thing (apart from WB and Farooque) I witnessed, was the trailer of SRK starring Vinay Pathak and Rituparnao Sengupta, directed by Ajay Verma. Its about a guy (vinay) who hates doing work and is a big Kaamchor. And the caption of the movie is ‘There is a little bit of him in everyone’ :) . The trailer was pretty good and it has music by Illay Raja and lyrics by Gulzar. Now that’s one helluva combo. Wat say??"
http://passionforcinema.com/saas-bahu-aur-sexerr-sensex/

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[licvskumar]

Another Malayalam film composed by our Maestro.

http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/malayalam/article/41615.html

[app_engine]

Are the 'chandamAmA' song from mallepuvvu and 'poomAlai oru pAvai AnadhO' of thangamagan same rAgA or something like that? I find a lot of similarities in the tune...or is it a clever recycle by IR? (This song also sounds close to 'dEva sangeetham' of guru, i.e. the melody part)

Ofcourse, each of these three songs has entirely different style of presentation / orchestration, which is the trademark of IR:-)

[Sureshs65]

app_engine,

I haven't heard the thangamagan song (Dont be surprised. I haven't heard a lot of songs) but the feel of 'Chandamama Raave' is very similar to 'Kalaya Nijama', though both are very distinct songs. 'Mallepoovu' is an excellent album and I have been listening to it almost on a daily basis.

Some people have claimed that 'Hero Nenochane' sounds old. I feel that in this particular song, IR has used Mohanam in such a way that it has a vintage feel. My thinking is that IR has deliberately given this feel for the song. I like this song.

S.Suresh

[licvskumar]

First Movie review of Mallepoovu from Telugu cinema site

http://www.telugucinema.com/c/publish/featurearticles/mallepuvvu_moviereview.php

Good result the movie surely hit in A.P

[krish244]

One of Roop kumar rathod's favourite composer is IR:

http://www.realbollywood.com/news/2008/09/roop-kumar-rathod-race.html

"Who are your favorite music directors today?

My favorite music directors today are Ilayaraja, Vishal Bharadwaj, Shankar Ehsan Loy and last but not the least A.R. Rahman."

thanks,

Krishnan

[app_engine]

Sureshs65,
It's not just a surprise but a shock:-) Anyone who listened to IR in the 80's couldn't have missed thanga magan as it was one of his biggest hits ever, that too for a Rajinikanth movie. The other songs in this movie are 'rAththiriyil pooththirukkum thAmarai thAn peNNO' (SPB-SJ), 'adukku malligai'(SPB-SJ), 'vA vA pakkam vA'(SPB-VJ) & 'machchAnappAradi'(SJ-VJ, rare combo).

http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00633.html

Personally I would rate 'poomAlai' the best from this album.

[Sureshs65]

app_eng,

I was in growing in Hyd at that time and those were times when only DD dominated the skies and Tamil movies rarely made it to Hyd, even Rajani ones. I have ofcourse heard 'Raatiriyil' a zillion times and it was the one which was broadcast / telecast all the time. Thanks for the link. I will listen to it now.

S.Suresh

[kameshratnam]

Do Kannanuku from Dhanam and Engae irudai isaey From Ajantha have a connection

I was singing Kannanaku Enna vendum ...kanavilka..ninivaila..

[Sureshs65]

app_eng,

I just heard 'poomalai' in the thiraipadal link. Even I am shocked that I haven't heard this song earlier !! Lovely song.

Still I feel 'Chandamama' is more closer to 'Kalaya Nijama' from Coolie No.1 (Telugu). Maybe both these songs are based on Suddha Dhanyasi.

S.Suresh

[jaiganes]

Sureshs65,
It's not just a surprise but a shock:-) Anyone who listened to IR in the 80's couldn't have missed thanga magan as it was one of his biggest hits ever, that too for a Rajinikanth movie. The other songs in this movie are 'rAththiriyil pooththirukkum thAmarai thAn peNNO' (SPB-SJ), 'adukku malligai'(SPB-SJ), 'vA vA pakkam vA'(SPB-VJ) & 'machchAnappAradi'(SJ-VJ, rare combo).

http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00633.html

Personally I would rate 'poomAlai' the best from this album.

we can write a whole big article on the songs like 'poo maalai' and its kannada counterpart (not in terms of tune - but genre ) 'Nanna neenu gellalaare' - competition songs in cinema and what raaja has done to them - be it classical - 'isayarasi' , 'aadal kalaye' and the uliyin osai number or the pop style songs like 'aei unnaiththaane' or the funny 'maamaavukku kuduma'. pudhu thread podungappa...

[Plum]

hai, ah! nanna neenu - wow! what a masterpiece. Thanks for reminding me of it!

[12bums]

[tscii:a0f2af242b]Myskin comments on his relationship with IR:

It is said that Ilaiyaraja was mesmerized by your narration for Nandhalala…

First let me get it clear that Ilaiyaraja was never mesmerized by me. He has been in cinema for 35 years and must have seen scores of people like me, but he seemed to like me. I respect him a lot, see him as a father figure. His songs, especially from Annakili were part of my life. So, actually it was I who was mesmerized by being able to work with him. Even now I am under the spell. A great example for that is the amount of details he asked me before composing a song. I told him about the situation of five people, two persons, two children and one woman. The song is about how the four others are beginning to worship the woman, After hearing this he did not immediately go to work. He started asking me questions. What’s the woman wearing? What’s the color of the saree? Is she wearing earrings and anklets? What is the backdrop that you will provide, hills, lakes, the clear sky? Are the two children dancing? After asking for all these details he conceived the song. I don’t think there would have been any composer who asked for so many details. Also, his way of working left me spellbound. Even after 35 years in the industry he does not show any signs of being tired, he still works round the clock. I was the one mesmerized. I consider it an honor to have worked with him and to have his songs in my movie. He is a genius and I will always be humble before him. This is my relationship with Ilaiyaraja."

Check out the interview :

http://www.behindwoods.com/features/Interviews/interview-5/director/mysskin.html
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[nanchil_guy]

Zee has bought the rights for the NK movie and slotted for Diwali release,

http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/specials/2008/09/23-zee-network-procured-naan-kadavul-for-16-cr.html.


When will they release audio?

[raja_fan]

First Movie review of Mallepoovu from Telugu cinema site

http://www.telugucinema.com/c/publish/featurearticles/mallepuvvu_moviereview.php

Good result the movie surely hit in A.P



Not really a hit ! :(
That telugu cinema review was made before the release.

See this review..

http://www.hindu.com/2008/09/20/stories/2008092051190200.htm

Again a proof for how IR is bad in judging scripts !!

[Hulkster]

Logically i think IR did judge correctly as the storylines are interesting and when IR signed up he must have gone for it after hearing the story. The problem however is the end product which some of these directors screw up pretty badly and IR is not the type of person to leave a film once he realises it is not up to the mark as per the story.

Conclusion
-IR is good in judging scripts
- Bad luck that directors cant create a film to justify the script.

[MrJudge]

Zee has bought the rights for the NK movie and slotted for Diwali release,

http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/specials/2008/09/23-zee-network-procured-naan-kadavul-for-16-cr.html.


When will they release audio?

Yes, the movie is releasing on Diwali so the audio should come out in the first or second week of October

[rajasaranam]

திரைஅரங்கில் தவிர்த்து விட்ட படம்! இனையத்தில் 'டவுன்லோடு' செய்து பார்த்த பிறகு, ஏன் இதை திரைஅரங்கில் தவிர்த்துவிட்டோம் என வருத்தபட்டேன். அருமையான் திரைகதை, மிகை இல்லாத நடிப்பு, நல்ல தமிழ், எல்லாவற்றுக்கும் முத்தாய்ப்பாய் 'ராஜா'வின் மயக்கும் இசை. ரசித்து ரசித்து இழைத்திருகிறார் இப்படத்திர்க்கு இசையை. சற்றே நாடகத்தன்மை தவிர்த்து சிறிது 'கலை' விஷயத்திலும் கவனம் செலுத்தி இருந்தால் இப்படம் தவிர்க்க கூடா 'காவிய' படங்கள் வரிசையில் சேர்ந்து இருக்கும். ஆயினும் படத்தின் 'பட்ஜெட்' கணக்கில் கொன்டு அதையும் மன்னித்து விட்டால் இப்படம் ஒரு சிறந்த 'காவியம்' எனபதில் எனக்கு எந்த சந்தேகமும் இல்லை.
ஒரு சிறுகதையை நீட்டீ, ஒரு இடத்திலும் தொய்வு அடையாத திரைகதையை அமைத்த வகையில் 'கலைஞர்'க்கு இன்னும் வயதாகிவிடவில்லையோ என தோன்றுகிறது. அவரை திரையுலகம் இன்னும் சிறப்பாய் பயன்ப்டுத்தி கொள்ளலாம், அவரிடம் கற்று கொள்வதற்க்கு இளைய தலைமுறைக்கு நிறைய விஷயங்கள் இருக்கின்றன.
அழகாய் இருக்கிறார்கள் கதை நாயகிகள் இருவரும், கீர்த்தி சாவ்லா சில கோனங்களில் 'ரோஜா'வை நினைவுபடுத்துகிறார். இருவரும் தங்கள் வேலையை செம்மையாய் செய்து இருக்கிறார்கள். வினீத் 'இனியன்' கதாபாத்திரத்தில் கச்சிதமாய் பொருந்துகிறார். 'சாமுன்டி' நோக்கிய ஏக்க பார்வையகட்டும், தான் எற்று கொன்ட 'புத்த' நெறியின் படி பகைவர்க்கு அருளும் கனிவாகட்டும் நிறைவாய் நடித்து இருகிறார்.
'காமெடி' என்ற பெயரில் கஞ்சா கருப்பும், மனோரமாவும், கோவை சரளாவும் அடிக்கும் லூட்டி சகிக்க முடியவில்லை. ஒரு அரை மனி நேரம் வீன்.
மற்றபடி படத்தை தாங்கி நிறுத்துவது ராஜாவின் இசை என்றால் அது மிகை அல்ல. சமிபமாக இவ்வளவு அருமையாய் அவர் எந்த படத்திற்க்கும் இசை அமைக்க வில்லை. ( தனம், எஸ்.எம்.எஸ் போன்ற கொடுமைகளை பார்த்து தொலைத்த அப்பாவி நான்,) மற்ற படங்களில் இசை நன்றாக இருக்கிறது இந்த படத்தில் அந்த 'எக்ஸ்ட்ரா' கவனம் தெரிகிறது.இனியனின் படைப்பு திறன், அவனது காதல் மற்றும் ஏக்கம், சாமுன்டியின் அழகான உடற்கட்டு, அவலது பாவங்கள், தவிப்பு, முத்து நகையின் ஏமாற்றம், கோபம், இனியன் மீதான காதல்...அப்பப்பா எல்லாவற்றிர்க்கும் தன் இசை மூலமாக் உயிர் கொடுத்து விடுகிறார் ராஜா. 'கல்லாய் இருந்தேன்' பாடலும் 'காலத்தை வென்ற' பாடலும் படம் பார்த்த பிறகு இன்னும் அதிகமாய் நமக்கு பிடிக்கும்.
'கலைஞர்'க்காகவும், 'இசைஞானி'க்காகவும் தவிர்க்காமல் படம் பார்க்கவும் என பரிந்துரைக்கிறேன்.
எனக்கு பிடித்த 'ராஜா'வின் இசையோடு கூடிய காட்சிகளை இங்கு தொகுத்து உள்ளேன்,
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=2B5C024E3DBE4E59
பார்த்து மகிழவும் :)

[crvenky]

RS, How can you ignore this movie when released? Being a Kalaignar movie, I thought you would have seen it already. The audio was also one of the most discussed ones here, for its classical songs. I have uploaded the BGMs here as mp3:

http://rapidshare.com/files/148792258/Uliyin_Osai_BGMs.rar.html

[rajasaranam]

CRV,

Appa sariya time amaiyala, moreover I was not impressed with the scenes that were shown in TV channels during its release :|

[raagas]

Thanks for posting that youtube link. I have seen all the videos and the BGMs, please note, ONLY the BGMs are outstanding.

The way the scenes were shot is really dumb. Clearly the film is made with small budget. It looks so made up, like those Doorsarshan dramas. I dont know about the subject of this film, but its execution seriously lacks a lot of things. probably ilaiyaraaja's music is the only exception.

[rajasaranam]

Remo's Version of the Nepali folk tune
http://www.esnips.com/doc/2b1b12cb-4bc3-498f-8622-86904ca7423c/The-Flute-Song---Remo
Raaja's Version of the same tune.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8pag0RQxGI

The nagging thought for me is whether Raaja heard it from Remo's album 'O meri Munni' or did he actually hear the original tune somewhere :|

[app_engine]

rs,
What is the scene like for 'abhinayam kAttukinRa' - is it some 'nattuvAngam' people singing or the dancers themselves singing?

If it's dancers themselves, it's a big let-down as the middle aged, "karnatic" voices will be a total misfit. People listen to movie music to hear voices like Suseela, Janaki, Chitra and the like and as for me the max I can take is VJ. Voices like Soolamangalam, KBS, MS may be brilliant, can be appreciated, extraordinary etc but a big "turn-off" for me.

Still 'abhinayam' is on my continuous play list simply because of the phenomenal "post-lude" which is one of the best in recent TFM!

[raagas]

Remo's Version of the Nepali folk tune
http://www.esnips.com/doc/2b1b12cb-4bc3-498f-8622-86904ca7423c/The-Flute-Song---Remo
Raaja's Version of the same tune.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8pag0RQxGI

The nagging thought for me is whether Raaja heard it from Remo's album 'O meri Munni' or did he actually hear the original tune somewhere :|

even i felt the same, the moment i heard the BGM, because i have the Remo's piece as mp3. For a moment, i was totally flabberghasted. The question remains 'was he inspired or not?'. Looks like he was, although he improvised it a lot and took it into a different tone altogether.

[Hulkster]

I think you guys should look into his India 24 Hours album. Thalaivar explores folk tunes and music in the life of different indians(qawwali,nepali,maharashtra,rajasthan and so on so on) in it. I think in this matter we can give the benefit of doubt to him as he has already explored different types of indian music way before this album.

[SVN]

It's a typical 'pahadi' folk flute tune and I have heard minor variations of the same on many occasions, including in an Assamese folk programme that I attended in New Delhi 14 years ago. The source is hence not likely to be Remo's album. Being a typical pahadi tune, the flautist (Arunmozhi/Napolean) may have played it naturally.

[crvenky]

appengine,

I think this song was not picturised (it was not there in the original VCD). But its better because the heroines had no dancing sense at all. The song will remain as a classic in our minds.

[raagas]

Thats true. It could be a folk tune...and we know...composers have liberally used folk tunes, by improvising them. Infact i strongly believed that Remo's piece could not have been his own. Not to take any due credit from him ofcourse. he has done his thing...by adapting a folk piece. IR must have also took the same folk piece..and did his thing.

But otherwise, Uliyin Osai BGMs are top class. IR is in amazing form, in that film.

[MumbaiRamki]

somehow , i couldnt see huge similarlity between remo's version and the BGM , although some shades of similarity was there .

Irukka va irukaaru , namam KR - if anything is there , we can say ' KR's influence' on IR made him do this ! paavam KR :(

[raja_fan]

Nandalala release in a couple of months !

http://nandalala-movie.blogspot.com/

[Sanjeevi]

days, weeks poyi ipoo couple of monthsA?

appo nAn kadavul-ku couple of years-nu solluvangalo?

[krish244]

New Malayalam movie by IR:

http://malayalam.galatta.com/entertainment/malayalam/livewire/id/Sathyan_and_Jayaram_to_team_up_19138.html

Sathyan Anthikkad is the director.

thanks,

Krishnan

[crvenky]

Manikantan Geet Mala release postponed to October end :( I received a reply from India Tales.

[irir123]

"Pazhassi Raja" audio release ??

[Hulkster]

Pazhassi Raja is due to release on christmas so probably audio will be 1 week or 2 weeks before the movie comes out.

[NormalMan]

Whatever happened to Naan Kadavul ??

[rajasaranam]

"Pazhassi Raja" audio release ??

WEbsite'aavathu ippa release panninaangannu santhosha paduvom :)
http://www.pazhassirajathefilm.co.cc/

[SVN]

RS, The Pazhassiraja site is NOT an official site (though quite decently done). The music that they have used there is definitely not IR's. It sounds way too amateurish.

[MrJudge]

Shankar's assistant floors the maestro!
October 15, 2008

This seems to be the season of assistant directors from prestigious stables to make their independent entry into the world of films. The latest to join this bandwagon is Ananthanarayanan who had his training under Shankar. His maiden directorial film Valmiki starring Kalloori Akhil, Meera Nandan and Shruthi is almost ready. Ilayaraja scores music for Valmiki. The interesting factor about this film is that Raja scoring music after he witnessed the rough draft of the film before editing.

It has been said that Raja chose six specific locations in the film where the songs can be interspersed and then composed music. Vaali pens the lyrics for this film and Raja himself has rendered his voice for two numbers. Recording for the rest of the songs is slated to happen in a couple of days. This sort of music composition has precedence in Aranmanaikili and Naatupura Paatu wherein the songs were a runaway hit during those times.

[sgmsin]

http://www.indiatales.com/mgm/trailers_tamil.php

[app_engine]

Raja is supposedly signed up for a movie 'kalaignar' (mu kA's bio).

Bharathi had good songs but Kamaraj hadn't made any impression on public. The other bio, Periyar didn't come to him. He is working on the pazhassi rAjA in Malayalam and now this...

Has he done any other such ventures (in Tamil or other lang)?

[krish244]

Jesudas sings for IR in Nandalala:

http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/42405.html

thanks,

Krishnan

[app_engine]

An error in that nandhalala article - 'vAzhvE mAyam' was not by IR, by GA.

I found KJY struggling a bit (age?) in the 'kaiyeththA dhooraththu' song last year. His voice still has the magic, though.

[NormalMan]

[tscii:7c10438196]Let me say this outright - I have enormous respect for ARR and what he can deliver for the masses. So this post has got nothing to do with him or his capabilities.

The more I read about Marmayogi and a glimpse of what the story might be, why was IR rejected or politically right not the choice by Kamal? Was it because Kamal had inherent doubts on the capabilities of this genius? In my opinion with a creator & motivator like Kamal, wonders could have come out. Agree Virumaandi was not the best of their outputs, but look at Hey Ram - I bow thee. I was watching it even last week and man it is indeed a classic.

So why on earth Kamal had to choose IR? Was it financial marketability? Was it fear of failure? Or confidence lost? I always look at how Spielberg tuck to John Williams no matter what and wonders have always come out from JW. Kamal is no Spielberg, but the statement was to bring out the anomaly of the situation here. Maybe I’m venting too much here. But maybe a few in the forum know more than me. To sum up, we have lost a dashing combo forever.... adios !!
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[raja_fan]

Agree Virumaandi was not the best of their outputs



Who said that ???!!!

Virumandi could have been the best folk album that IR could give to Kamal.
And every one knows how Kamal butchered the songs with his nasty picturization ! :(
Had a song like Kombula poova suththi or Unna vida gone to a better director, the results would have been vastly different..

[Hulkster]

There was nothing wrong with the picturisation.....those songs were done as part of the screenplay rather than out of focus...if kamal had done it differently the screenplay would look terrible...he had to do it realistically as moving the story forward for the viewers to grasp whats happening.

[thumburu]

Normal man, as a loyal IR fan for decades, I can vouch
for IR's degeneration in his creativity and quality of songs
with progress of time and I purely blame it on his age , lack of innovation and motivation factors. It happened for MSV, it happens for Raja now and will happen for Rahman too . Today I cannot play any new Raja's movie album at my home without the risk of being rebuked or criticized and that tells us all. Kamal is a pucca commercial filmy guy no different from Rajini or KSRavikumar and he takes a lot of pride in that. Though he may have good friendship with Raja, he is not here for charity. He would prefer a hit machine like Himesh to a once upon a time, king , Raja who has not been able to muster a single hit for so many years in TFM

[nanchil_guy]

IMO virumaandi is better than Thevar magan musical wise. Virumaandi is a complete album , couple of peppy numbers and couple of melodies finally a great grammiya pattu.

I think Kamal has chosen ARR for his marketability. This decision is just based on commercial success. you can say kamal is afraid of failure, or on the other hand he may needs to satisfy 'some' people with the choices he makes.

But one thing is sure a film like MY is tailor made for WCM (western classical masster) like IR.

[rajasaranam]

Normal man, as a loyal IR fan for decades, I can vouch
for IR's degeneration in his creativity and quality of songs

Not agreeable: his Composing style has taken a drastic change. Change is inevitable as time progresses. But the change he had taken is not catering to the current generations 'Taste' or 'Trend'. As a matter of fact 'No Artists creativity will degenerate by time' Listen to 'Vishwa thulasi' can anybody else other than MSV compose such honey soaked tunes? It is just that it did not hit the right chords for the current generation of consumers. Same is happening to Raaja too.


Raja who has not been able to muster a single hit for so many years in TFM

Agreed to an extent: Somehow the projects he chooses are also duds and his great music is going down the drains. 'Uliyin Osai' is a case in point.
I see 'Vanavilley' 'Khajuraho kanvilor' 'Ilankaathu veesuthey' or 'unnai vida' telecasted often in music channels. these songs were definitely decent hits and they are not from 'so many years' ago.

[raagas]

[tscii:cf264bf3e5]Let me say this outright - I have enormous respect for ARR and what he can deliver for the masses. So this post has got nothing to do with him or his capabilities.

The more I read about Marmayogi and a glimpse of what the story might be, why was IR rejected or politically right not the choice by Kamal? Was it because Kamal had inherent doubts on the capabilities of this genius? In my opinion with a creator & motivator like Kamal, wonders could have come out. Agree Virumaandi was not the best of their outputs, but look at Hey Ram - I bow thee. I was watching it even last week and man it is indeed a classic.

So why on earth Kamal had to choose IR? Was it financial marketability? Was it fear of failure? Or confidence lost? I always look at how Spielberg tuck to John Williams no matter what and wonders have always come out from JW. Kamal is no Spielberg, but the statement was to bring out the anomaly of the situation here. Maybe I’m venting too much here. But maybe a few in the forum know more than me. To sum up, we have lost a dashing combo forever.... adios !!
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Normal Man,

every artiste seeks to try something new and we know Kamal also does. Much has been written and spoken about ARR being the best composer around, AFTER ilaiyaraaja (well, generally people take the names MSV, IR and ARR in same order). Probably he felt like trying out. We must not forget that Kamal signed Ustad Zakir Hussain for his shelved "Marudhanayagam" and violin Maestro "L.Subramaniam" for Hey! Ram initially (that he came back to IR is a different issue, coz he had his reasons, whatever). and IR or SPB are not the only friends of Kamal. He rubs his shoulders with the likes of Maniratnam etc too. So, even they all must be having opinions/discussions around same subjects, much like we do here and probably Kamal felt convinced that ARR too could deliver it. Mind you, it is not about IR's inability to deliver or ARR's saleability alone. It could be genuine natural creative urge too, to collaborate and try and see. Afterall new things emerge out of such collaborations.I dont think we can find fault with Kamal. I am looking forward to Marmayogi's soundtrack.
i understand that we all feel sorry when Kamal doesnt take IR, but expecting the same combo, irrespective of good music, always is asking too much.They are entitled to creative freedom, of choice. We can only sit back and listen to good music, be it IR or ARR or anyone for that matter.

[raagas]

Normal man, as a loyal IR fan for decades, I can vouch
for IR's degeneration in his creativity and quality of songs
with progress of time and I purely blame it on his age , lack of innovation and motivation factors. It happened for MSV, it happens for Raja now and will happen for Rahman too.

i partly agree and partly disagree too. i see it this way. IR gave outstanding, good and pathetic songs too way back in 80s. He is still doing the same, covering the whole spectrum of Brilliant to bad songs. Probably the degenrationou are sensing is more pronounced because IR is not working on quality 'films' and film-makers. Still, we dont know or cant predict when he can surprise with brilliant music (Uliyin Osai) and when he can let you down (Dhanam).
But yes, as you said, every artist goes through the low-high-normal phases.thats natural. and it happens not only in music, but in any field of art. afterall all human beings change. Yet, i still feel that IR can stun us anytime, even in crappy films. Thats the problem with him.We can predict His orchestration or layers or melodies (having studied IR's genius all these years) but we can never predict when he is going to give an outstanding score and when he can let you down. and that unpredictability will drive us to buy all his albums...so much that if he gives 20 bad scores continuously, i would still hope that the 21 st score could be good. Thats why we are hopelely addicted admirers of IR [:)]

[Sureshs65]

I honestly don't see a 'degeneration'. If that has been the case, 'Uliyin Osai' would not have happened. As RS says, Raja has changed his style quite a bit but the inherent genius remains. I can vouch for the fact that I threw away lot of his tapes, including 'Adu Oru Kana Kalam', 'Manasinakkare', 'Ponmudipuzhayorathu', 'Kaliyoonjal' etc. Now I cannot have enough of them. I don't see any degeneration in his skills even in an album like 'Dhanam', which has been criticized here. I find lot of thought which has gone into 'Dhanam'. The songs may not be a hit with the masses but the ideas in the songs are not those of a man whose grey cells are degenerating.

In case of 'Virumandi' I am amazed by the music and I don't think anyone could have given better stuff. The big story is my fav as there are lovely rhythm changes in that. Can any music director even think of 'Nettiyile Pottuvai'? Guru (Malayalam) and 'Virumandi' have been two albums which I listen fairly regularly to try and understand how a master works.

.. and then the songs of 'Mallepoovu'. No great director, no great banner but look at the quality of songs. Everyone wants to convert him into a God and say that here is God, who turned into a statue after 1980s. The truth is Illayaraja is himself continuously evolving and giving newer music. That is why he is still spoken about. Looking for similar songs as the 80s is of no use since Illayaraja will not give them. He has moved beyond them. Maybe it is time for us also to move beyond and check the ideas in Illayaraja's later compositions. I can assure you I have found a wealth of music. I am sure if you search you will too.

S.Suresh

[rajasaranam]

Today I cannot play any new Raja's movie album at my home without the risk of being rebuked or criticized and that tells us all.

....and that does not tells us all! This is the inherent insecurity of a fan arising out their anguish that the person whom they adore is not adored by others. If you are disliking this phase of Raaja so be it! but to say his creativity has taken a plunge is preposterous. it can only mean that there are fans who had been going along the crowd (gumballa Govindha mathiri) and when the crowd has discarded him now feel alone in the dark (thaniya Govinda solla bayamairukku) :). Dont worry! I have crossed that phase and hope you too would cross.
The basic question is whether you like the 'compositions' or not? the solution lies in the answer, if you dont like it why trying to play and impress others. If you really like it why care whether it is liked by others or not?
Iam having an ipod in which I have loaded more than 3000 songs of his and while travelling (Which I do often due to my job nature) play them in 'Shuffle' mode and never even once i have skipped a song. there is something in every single compositions of his, which springs as a surprise.
More later....

[Sureshs65]

I would like people to listen to his 'Lovely Leela' from the Telugu movie 'Shambu'. RS had put up the link recently. You can download it from there. Where I first heard it casually I thought it was one more 'Raja synth'. Then I heard it carefully and as usual I was proved wrong. Listen to the song carefully. Observe what rhythm the base is playing and what rhythm the saxophone plays. There is seemingly no connection but everything connects up superbly !! Observe the beat and the instruments in the background during the charanam. It's crazy really. I had a tough time deciphering who is playing what and all the while everything is so seemlessly integrated. Mark of a genius and this is what I call fusion. Every instrument, music genre in the service of the song and not to just proclaim fusion !!

Let's not argue if this song is as good as his 80s hits. I am sure many people will pass a verdict against it but as RS says, listen to it with an open mind and you will find a brain ticking and ticking fast !!

[raagas]

I would like people to listen to his 'Lovely Leela' from the Telugu movie 'Shambu'. Let's not argue if this song is as good as his 80s hits. I am sure many people will pass a verdict against it but as RS says, listen to it with an open mind and you will find a brain ticking and ticking fast !!

Thanks for suggesting this song. It is a nice number. Just listened. very groovy. The bass work and synth-guitar usage is amazing. Infact, the tune and melody of the song is same as 80s IR, if you carefully notice. Only the instruments have changed.

[MumbaiRamki]

I would like people to listen to his 'Lovely Leela' from the Telugu movie 'Shambu'. Let's not argue if this song is as good as his 80s hits. I am sure many people will pass a verdict against it but as RS says, listen to it with an open mind and you will find a brain ticking and ticking fast !!

Thanks for suggesting this song. It is a nice number. Just listened. very groovy. The bass work and synth-guitar usage is amazing. Infact, the tune and melody of the song is same as 80s IR, if you carefully notice. Only the instruments have changed.

This style resembles KR a bit ( Thevayillai from Ragasiyamai , amul baby from Vaanchinaathan, His kannada movie Hoo Anthiyaa) . Also the song Unnai kanom bothu from the Vinayan's movie .

[MumbaiRamki]

Sambu is one of the best movie scores that i have come across..
Esp Bitta bombo and the song by Bhavatharani is cool !

[Sureshs65]

Fully agree with you Ramki about Sambu. Love the album.

Does anyone (RS, Ramki) have the credits for the songs. (Singer and Lyricist?)

S.Suresh

[rajasaranam]

Fully agree with you Ramki about Sambu. Love the album.

Does anyone (RS, Ramki) have the credits for the songs. (Singer and Lyricist?)

S.Suresh

I Have the ACD, will let you know later :)

[rajaalltheway]

[tscii:2acb07cb0d]Let me say this outright - I have enormous respect for ARR and what he can deliver for the masses. So this post has got nothing to do with him or his capabilities.

The more I read about Marmayogi and a glimpse of what the story might be, why was IR rejected or politically right not the choice by Kamal? Was it because Kamal had inherent doubts on the capabilities of this genius? In my opinion with a creator & motivator like Kamal, wonders could have come out. Agree Virumaandi was not the best of their outputs, but look at Hey Ram - I bow thee. I was watching it even last week and man it is indeed a classic.

So why on earth Kamal had to choose IR? Was it financial marketability? Was it fear of failure? Or confidence lost? I always look at how Spielberg tuck to John Williams no matter what and wonders have always come out from JW. Kamal is no Spielberg, but the statement was to bring out the anomaly of the situation here. Maybe I’m venting too much here. But maybe a few in the forum know more than me. To sum up, we have lost a dashing combo forever.... adios !!
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Normal Man,

every artiste seeks to try something new and we know Kamal also does. Much has been written and spoken about ARR being the best composer around, AFTER ilaiyaraaja (well, generally people take the names MSV, IR and ARR in same order). Probably he felt like trying out. We must not forget that Kamal signed Ustad Zakir Hussain for his shelved "Marudhanayagam" and violin Maestro "L.Subramaniam" for Hey! Ram initially (that he came back to IR is a different issue, coz he had his reasons, whatever). and IR or SPB are not the only friends of Kamal. He rubs his shoulders with the likes of Maniratnam etc too. So, even they all must be having opinions/discussions around same subjects, much like we do here and probably Kamal felt convinced that ARR too could deliver it. Mind you, it is not about IR's inability to deliver or ARR's saleability alone. It could be genuine natural creative urge too, to collaborate and try and see. Afterall new things emerge out of such collaborations.I dont think we can find fault with Kamal. I am looking forward to Marmayogi's soundtrack.
i understand that we all feel sorry when Kamal doesnt take IR, but expecting the same combo, irrespective of good music, always is asking too much.They are entitled to creative freedom, of choice. We can only sit back and listen to good music, be it IR or ARR or anyone for that matter.

First and foremost Kamalji would be still having a sigh of relief after the horrendous Dasavatharam miraculously recovered its investment and saved its producer.Kamalji is the only producer/director who openly,on record supported Ayya for the last few years when regular biggies of the industry deserted him.ARR was as big as he is when Kamalji came up with Hey Raam or Virumaandi.Where was the so called creative urge and hunt for the 'NEW' then.ARR had given him big hits in INDIAN , THENALI.Ayya was still his choice.There was a personal attempt from Kamalji to release HEY RAAMS bgm through SONY and later Saregama which didnt work out.There was heated discussions on the movies soundtrack with ADLABS executives when they were involved in the project.Everything changed when Rajkamal themselves became co-producers.This sudden aversion is definitely due to Kamaljis lack of confidence in the final product and his drastic attempt at ensuring box office returns.

[rajasaranam]

[tscii:7fe786e1fd]Release Confirmation of 'Manikantan geet Mala' as found in my mail just now

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I was personally at the shrine on 17th October and met with the Head Priest and the Thantri. They rightly expressed that the first copy should be submitted to the Lord himself and the release too should take place from the shrine. They have fixed the first day of the temple opening for the new season ie: 15th November as the release date. The release will be from Sabrimala.

Consequently all shipments will happen simultaneously on 15th November. As a token of appreciation for your order and for the wait, Indiatales will include surprise free gifts with every pack.

Thank you once again and I look forward to your feedback after you hear the music.

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[raagas]

First and foremost Kamalji would be still having a sigh of relief after the horrendous Dasavatharam miraculously recovered its investment and saved its producer.Kamalji is the only producer/director who openly,on record supported Ayya for the last few years when regular biggies of the industry deserted him.ARR was as big as he is when Kamalji came up with Hey Raam or Virumaandi.Where was the so called creative urge and hunt for the 'NEW' then.ARR had given him big hits in INDIAN , THENALI.Ayya was still his choice.There was a personal attempt from Kamalji to release HEY RAAMS bgm through SONY and later Saregama which didnt work out.There was heated discussions on the movies soundtrack with ADLABS executives when they were involved in the project.Everything changed when Rajkamal themselves became co-producers.This sudden aversion is definitely due to Kamaljis lack of confidence in the final product and his drastic attempt at ensuring box office returns.

I dont see a reason why the creative urge or interest to collaborate cannot spring now, just becoz it did not spring up back then. The point i am trying to make is this - choosing ARR doesnt necessarily mean dumping IR once for all. Choosing ARR doesnt mean pure box-office returns, although that could be one more element but not the whole of it.

[rooky]

"After a long gap, IR has signed up a Kannada movie titled "Prem Kahani".His last score was in hugely succesful Aa Dinagalu.Director is currently in chennai for recording of two of the songs.Incidently, this is Maestro's 876th movie".(source:Bangalore mirror)

[krish244]

Another new Malayalam movie by IR called "Alexander the Great" starring Mohanlal.

http://malayalam.galatta.com/entertainment/malayalam/livewire/id/Mohanlal_in_Alexander_the_Great_19439.html

I was hoping that it will be historical kind of movie, but its a comedy movie :(.

thanks,

Krishnan

[rajasaranam]

"After a long gap, IR has signed up a Kannada movie titled "Prem Kahani".His last score was in hugely succesful Aa Dinagalu.Director is currently in chennai for recording of two of the songs.Incidently, this is Maestro's 876th movie".(source:Bangalore mirror)
What happened to the other 2 movies 'Sangoli Rayanna' & 'Nannavanu' :(
Ithu mathiri 'usupethi usupethiyae odamba ranagalam aakki vechurukaingae' :lol:

[thumburu]

raagas, I agree IR springs here and there some pleasant surprises which are very few and far between, these days, esp in the case of "ULiyin Oasai", where he came up with brilliant songs like "ethanai bhaavam undu" and "abinayam kaattugindra", in rare ragas like Rasikapriya, Ragavardhini . Many carnatic connoisseurs would concur these , with not many krithis in these ragas to boast about. My recent gripe are, haunting Female solos, nice , soft romantic duets [aka "then poove poove vaa" , "unnai kaanum neram " ] that were Raja's forte, that made me hopelessly weak kneed to his music are dwindling. After getting drunk in those heady late 70's and 80's Raja , I find it tough to come to terms with the neo synth-only Raja [ May be I need to tune myself] Iam not able to enjoy his latest duets with nursery rhyme like pallavi in "unakkuLLe irukindren" which gives a dejavu feel of "kajuraho" , or pathetic singing in immature voice of Bhavatharini in a decent song like "kannanukku enna vendum". I felt "Mallepoovu" to be an ordinary album with only the title song to my liking.
RS, u would go to any length to defend Raja musically. May be u are technically right , but those songs are 5 years old, long enuff for paradigm shift .
Suresh, I want my listening experience to be cosy and not a belaboured one and like I admitted already, the good old Raja has spoilt me. Blame him only :)

[thumburu]

raagas, regarding kamal's choice of MD's , I give my benefit of doubt over his choice of ARR, but I have no doubts about his choosing likes of Himesh for Dasa or Deva for "Pammal K" etc going by his own statement in an interview "Himesh Hindila neraiya hits kudukkiraar , so... hehehe"

[raagas]

After getting drunk in those heady late 70's and 80's Raja , I find it tough to come to terms with the neo synth-only Raja [ May be I need to tune myself] Iam not able to enjoy his latest duets with nursery rhyme like pallavi in "unakkuLLe irukindren" which gives a dejavu feel of "kajuraho" , or pathetic singing in immature voice of Bhavatharini in a decent song like "kannanukku enna vendum". I felt "Mallepoovu" to be an ordinary album with only the title song to my liking.

I agree with you. I too like IR's live instruments + synth combo rather than totally synth, no matter how good it is. well, fully synth songs might be intelligently done and we might enjoy but they dont leave an ever-lasting impact as such.i enjoyed 'Kannanukko enna vendum' a lot, but then, as you said, i am not that fascinated by Bhavatharini's voice, for i feel it lacks something, a sense of completeness.
Personally, the IR which i would like to see now is exactly like the one in "Saara Yeh Aalam" (Shiva-2006). Awesome orchestration. brilliant sound texture. and when it comes to classical, Uliyin Osai was damn good. or for that matter even "Kannanukku enna vendum" (minus bhavatharini) or "Kaatril Varum Geethame" or "Mandhaa Poo" (Vinodha Yatra). These are the ones which showcase his talent.

[raagas]

raagas, regarding kamal's choice of MD's , I give my benefit of doubt over his choice of ARR, but I have no doubts about his choosing likes of Himesh for Dasa or Deva for "Pammal K" etc going by his own statement in an interview "Himesh Hindila neraiya hits kudukkiraar , so... hehehe"

Point taken, and agree too. but Dasa, Pammal K etc are meant to be commercial films and probably he is a total 'market' driven guy there. it happened before Hey! Ram too, when he took Deva for Avvai Shanmughi but for Hey! Ram, he went to L.Subramaniam and then to Ilaiyaraaja, because he wanted certain kind of class music there. After Hey! Ram, he used many composers for Pammal K, Panchathanthram, Abhay, etc but came to IR for Virumaandi, because he was directing it. and again for Mumbai Express too.

The ultimate question now is: Is MarmaYogi a semi-art/semi-commercial film like Hey! Ram (MY is also said to be a period film)? Or is it one more market-hype driven commercial film like Dasa?

If it is the former, then did he choose ARR bcoz ARR delivered some good period scores in Iruvar, Lagaan, Bose etc?

If the film is another Dasa type of film, then lets not waste time on it :)

My only hope is that it should be a hey! Ram brand of film, since Kamal himself is directing it. But we cant say now!

[rajaalltheway]

Normal man, as a loyal IR fan for decades, I can vouch
for IR's degeneration in his creativity and quality of songs
with progress of time and I purely blame it on his age , lack of innovation and motivation factors. It happened for MSV, it happens for Raja now and will happen for Rahman too . Today I cannot play any new Raja's movie album at my home without the risk of being rebuked or criticized and that tells us all. Kamal is a pucca commercial filmy guy no different from Rajini or KSRavikumar and he takes a lot of pride in that. Though he may have good friendship with Raja, he is not here for charity. He would prefer a hit machine like Himesh to a once upon a time, king , Raja who has not been able to muster a single hit for so many years in TFM
For heavens sake listen to MANIKANTAN GEETMALA samples and decide if this great man degenerated,lacks motivation etc etc.If somebody at ur home rebuked u for listening to Uliyin Osai then they must be from Uranus,communicating using sign language and think a bit before using such words on record.If the songs lapped up by the masses belted out by the vijay or simbu or even rajni and kamal these days are the benchmarks Iam so glad Ayya is not in the rat race.'Himesh the hit machine' reminds me of the period Bappi Lahiri was preferred over Rahul Dev Burman...thats degeneration...of the listeners..

[Sureshs65]

Thumburu,

I understand your feeling and I can assure you that I don't belabor to enjoy the songs. The truth is I enjoy most of the songs instinctively. Maybe in some songs Raja may have reduced the complexity based on the current needs. Even then the way he takes along the charanam in 'Unakulle' is very good. As I said, whenever I listen to his music, I do see a brain which is ticking.

I will concede that his 'hits' are fewer and most people would always point to his 80s hits and not to his 21st century compositions. Compared to other music directors his recent 'hits' have been lesser. My contention is while this his true, his music is not any lesser. I still remember my brother, who is not a great fan of anyone, listening to 'Kaiyetha' (Vinodayatra) in my car and after he went back to Hyd, called me and asked me to mail that song, saying that he hasn't heard such a good song in the recent past. That from a person who hears every new album which comes out !!!

Maybe blame it on Raja, I find most of the current music, however popular the MD and the song, not challenging enough. I have no choice but to listen to Raja !!

S.Suresh

[kameshratnam]

Suresh

I also had the same feeling. The liking for mandarapoo and kaiyetha was instant.
In uliyin osai, it was only kallai irudaen...but reg dhanam and others i was forced to hear it again and again after seeing the posts of mayyam members but still i could not get convinced..
I dont know why i purchased these cds

Inime nangathan had a great song "Oru Murai"..out of the world song....so he infer that IR was really involved in that...For a person who gave ilamai idho ido..idu ellam jujubee :D

IR has not lost his magic but it is the directors who are nt able to get the best out of him...

[rooky]

"After a long gap, IR has signed up a Kannada movie titled "Prem Kahani".His last score was in hugely succesful Aa Dinagalu.Director is currently in chennai for recording of two of the songs.Incidently, this is Maestro's 876th movie".(source:Bangalore mirror)
What happened to the other 2 movies 'Sangoli Rayanna' & 'Nannavanu' :(
Ithu mathiri 'usupethi usupethiyae odamba ranagalam aakki vechurukaingae' :lol:

And as per newspaper reports, Kannada version of Ajantha is among 10 Kannada movies that are complete and waiting for Theatres.

[rooky]

Whatever people lament, IR is giving us some wonderful numbers all these times and i am among those fans who enjoy those numbers.

Feeling of a Void w.r.to Tamil movies,is solely cos all the recent movies were bad in content and could not evoke interest in general public

[kameshratnam]

Why does he score well for bala..fazil and others..its the directors talent to get the good songs.
Kannan nu ku enna vendum from dhanam was good but bhavatha padi..it didnt suit at all...

The one thing which i hate...Even in Andrum Inrum Enrum concert she sang sendoorapoove..Oh my :shock: :roll:

[app_engine]

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=445981&disdate=10/23/2008

Ajantha?

[Sureshs65]

I fully agree about Bhavatharini's singing in public function. I recently saw a full concert of Illayaraja and she was awful. She is definitely better in recorded music.

S.Suresh

[crvenky]

Maestro has sung a song for YSR in Silambattam. Its a nice duet, a typical YSR melody. The song name is Machan machan.

[crvenky]

Any idea whatever happened to Jaganmohini? I thought its a short time production and could release for Diwali.

[SVN]

Crvenky! You mean the soft-porn film starring obscenely overweight starlets masquearading as popular 'maaya jaala kathai'? Hmmm.. Frankly I am only interested in the audio.

I often wonder if someone with better aesthetic sense were to make such a film, who would be their choice :) and what would their treatment be like?

[crvenky]

SVN, I too wish to hear the songs and BGM. It has been long since Maestro had scored in this genre. Also NK Viswanathan is his long time associate as cameraman. So we can expect decent songs and BGMs.

[ARUNPRAKASHKRISHNAN]

ajanta released or not?

[jaiganes]

IR had scored the immensely likeable 'Vanamellaam shenbagappoo' for N.K.V's Nadoadi paatukaaran.
So all hope is not lost.

[krish244]

Listening to "Muthirai ippodhu" from "Uzhaippali". I loved the guitar portions, especially during the initial chorus when the base guitar (am I right?) that comes during "tha dha tha thaaaaaa". Note the guitar creeping in during the last "thaaaaaa". Lovely.

thanks,

Krishnan

[rooky]

Looks like Ajantha is finally complete and set to release in all four languages.

http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/malayalam/article/42671.html

[krish244]

[tscii:9044c93b5c]Don't know if its already been told here. IR's new telugu movie:

http://www.nonstopcinema.com/nsc/spotnews/news_content.php?fileName=435

"Vamsi to direct Mallidi Venkat

It is well aware that one of the great directors, Vamsi, had his own and different school in film-making. After a long time, Vamsi is planning a film with all new faces. It is learnt that the film would be on the lines of the super duper hit film ‘Sitara’ which was released a few decades ago. It is learnt that the same film is almost being remade by making a few changes and by using the latest technology. Illayaraja is going to score tunes for this movie. It is learnt that Vamsi chose Mallidi Venkat, son of Mallidi Satyanarayana, who had produced a big hit like ‘Bunny’, as the hero, while a new face would be selected for the female lead. The film is most likely to start rolling in the first week of January. Director Vamsi would be busy with his project ‘Gopi, Gopika, Godavari’ from November 4 and it would complete its shooting in a single schedule."

thanks,

Krishnan[/tscii:9044c93b5c]

[krish244]

Vinay Pathak (lead in "SRK" movie..music by IR) has atleast two releases (apart from SRK) queued up. I am not sure when SRK will release. It was supposed to release in Sep/Oct 2008 ! All are comedies!

If SRK gets released now, there are high chances that it may go unnoticed. In any case, I am not sure how much visibility will IR have as the songs could all be situational. Lets see.

Ofcourse there are chances SRK may get postponed.

thanks,

Krishnan

[irir123]

Pazhassi Raja, enna achu ?

[Hulkster]

Pazhassi Raja is a christmas release..not so soon guys.

[krish244]

IR's new kannada movie (titled "Sarigama"):

http://entertainment.oneindia.in/kannada/top-stories/2008/sarigama-launched-071108.html

thanks,

Krishnan

[crvenky]

For whatever its worth, we can expect Kadhal Arangam in the near future.

http://www.tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/Hotnews/2008/november/051108a.asp

[raagas]

I am really waiting for an IR album wtih atleast 4-5 good songs in it. Dont you think it has been long time since he gave one such album. Uliyin Osai was last.

Also i am waiting for his Hindi scores.

[rooky]

So how is the list looking now..

Tamil:
1) NanKadavul
2) Valmiki
3) Nandhalala
4) Jeganmohini

Malayalam:-
1) PR(mamooty),
2) Sathiyan-Jeyaram Movie,
3) Alexander the Great(mohanlal),
4) Postman

Kannada:
1) Sarigama (from the director of "Nammoora Mathadahoovae",which had IRs music)
2) Nannavanu,
3) Sangoli Rayanna,
4) Prem Kahani

Hindi:-
1) SRK
2) Chalechale
3) PA

Telugu:-
1) Singeetham's Tyagayya
2) A Silent Movie
3) Vamsi's next movie


We also have Ajantha and Manikandan movies that are multilingual.

I am missing quite a few in the list.Please add..

[licvskumar]

Add some projects :

Tamil movies :

1. Anal Katru - Balumahendra
2. Ayyan - Vasan Karthik hero
3. Malaikallan - Rajkiran movie
4. Chinthamani - Rajkiran movie (only announced)
5. Alagar malai - Sangili murugan movie
6. Kangalum kavipaduthey - Youth heroes
7. Mathiya Chennai - New project announced
8. Mudhalvar Mahatma - shooting progress
9. Mayilu - Duet movies
10. Kadhal Arangam - long time pending - ready for release
11. Pooncholai - Long time pending - ready for release in few days
12. Nandalala
13. Naan Kadavul
14. Valmiki
15. Jagan Mohini

Malayalam Movies:

1. Pazhassiraja
2. Post man
3. Alexender the Great
4. Sathyan Anthikad movie - Jayaram

Telugu Movies :

1. Singeetham srinivasa direct movie
2. A Silent movie
3. Vamsi's next movie
4. Okkadanasanadu - Kalyanram-Genelia cast

Kannada Movies :

1. Nannavanu - Prajwal hero
2. Sarigama - Prajwal hero
3. Sangoli Rayanna - Historical movie
4. Prem Khani - actress Sheela heroine

Hindi movies :

1. SRK
2. PA
3. Chal Chale

Multi language movies :

1. Ajantha - Tamil, Telugu, Kannada and Malayalam
2. Manikandan - Tamil, Telugu, Kannada, Malayalam and Hindi.

[licvskumar]

more add :

16. Kannabiran - Ameer movie
17. Kutra parambarai - Bharathiraja - to be official announced.
18. Fazil Movie - to be offical announced.

Multi-language movie

Twinkle Twinkle Little star - Long pending - southindian language

[rajasaranam]

I saw the poster of 'Nannavanu' in bangalore today!!! was not able to decipher the content as the bus moved too fast :( I hope its the announcement of the audio launch...

[Sureshs65]

RS,

Was it Nannavanu? I mistook the poster of 'Nannusire' for 'Nannavanu'. Will check up and see if the audio of 'Nannavanu' is getting released.

S.Suresh

[rajasaranam]

RS,

Was it Nannavanu? I mistook the poster of 'Nannusire' for 'Nannavanu'. Will check up and see if the audio of 'Nannavanu' is getting released.

S.Suresh

now Iam also confused whether the poster I saw was 'Nannusire' or 'Nannavanu' ?!!! :|

[licvskumar]

It is Nannavanu movie was composed by our Raja sir.

star cast Prajwal devaraj (actor devaraj son) & Andritha roy
directed by srinivasu raju

one more movie composed by our Raja sir for Nannavanu hero Prajwal devaraj movie Sarigama (latest announced)

[raja_fan]

List ellaam pramaadhamaa thaan irukku !

dhinamum idhai kaalaiyil oru muraiyum, iravu padukka pogum podhu oru muraiyum paathittu, sappu kottikka vendiyathu thaan..idhil oru padamum release aagira vazhiya kaanom.

indha rate-la pona, IR-ai nichchayamaaga retired genius enru thaan pesuvaargal !

[licvskumar]

@ Raja fan,

Pls don't discourage this matter.

Indraya datil India Cinema worldil 34 years agiyum kaivasam ivlo movie composing pannikittu irukkira orey Jeevan namma IR sir than. Avarukku pinnala vantha neraya Isaibrhama, Isaivendhan, Thensaithendral, isaipuyal ellam appa appa seasons travelers mathiri than varugirargal. thannodaya style change pannama melodya kodukirar.

Ellorukkum athangam than ivlo movie kaivasam irukku, idhellam nitchyama 95% release agum next year.

[krish244]

This link talks about another new movie by IR in Kannada named "Baagyaada Balegaara"

http://entertainment.in.msn.com/southcinema/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1696262

thanks,

Krishnan

[Sureshs65]

RS,

I think you too would have seen the 'Nanusire' ad. They are there all over the place. No 'Nannavanu' yet :( BTW, I had once read an interview of the lead actor of 'Nanavanu'. The way he was describing his character (that of a guy in a cemetery) it looked like the movie was a remake of 'Pitamagan'. I may be mistaken though.

S.Suresh

[raagas]

Add some projects :

Tamil movies :

1. Anal Katru - Balumahendra
2. Ayyan - Vasan Karthik hero
3. Malaikallan - Rajkiran movie
4. Chinthamani - Rajkiran movie (only announced)
5. Alagar malai - Sangili murugan movie
6. Kangalum kavipaduthey - Youth heroes
7. Mathiya Chennai - New project announced
8. Mudhalvar Mahatma - shooting progress
9. Mayilu - Duet movies
10. Kadhal Arangam - long time pending - ready for release
11. Pooncholai - Long time pending - ready for release in few days
12. Nandalala
13. Naan Kadavul
14. Valmiki
15. Jagan Mohini

Malayalam Movies:

1. Pazhassiraja
2. Post man
3. Alexender the Great
4. Sathyan Anthikad movie - Jayaram

Telugu Movies :

1. Singeetham srinivasa direct movie
2. A Silent movie
3. Vamsi's next movie
4. Okkadanasanadu - Kalyanram-Genelia cast

Kannada Movies :

1. Nannavanu - Prajwal hero
2. Sarigama - Prajwal hero
3. Sangoli Rayanna - Historical movie
4. Prem Khani - actress Sheela heroine

Hindi movies :

1. SRK
2. PA
3. Chal Chale

Multi language movies :

1. Ajantha - Tamil, Telugu, Kannada and Malayalam
2. Manikandan - Tamil, Telugu, Kannada, Malayalam and Hindi.

Wow, thats almost 30 films there. how come there are not even 2-3 films releasing anytime soon?

[Tamilan]

Tamil movies :

1. Anal Katru - Balumahendra (will it come?)
2. Ayyan - Vasan Karthik hero (ithellam namba mudiyathu)
3. Malaikallan - Rajkiran movie (ha ha ha)
4. Chinthamani - Rajkiran movie (only announced) (double ha ha ha)
5. Alagar malai - Sangili murugan movie (ithum atho kathi than)
6. Kangalum kavipaduthey - Youth heroes (intha padam innuma varalai)
7. Mathiya Chennai - New project announced (ennathu ippadi oru padama)
8. Mudhalvar Mahatma - shooting progress (GA is the MD not IR)
9. Mayilu - Duet movies (ayyo pavam Prakasraj, ithula intha padam eppadithan vara poguthoo)
10. Kadhal Arangam - long time pending - ready for release (triple ha ha ha)
11. Pooncholai - Long time pending - ready for release in few days (hmmmm)
12. Nandalala (appadi, intha padatha nambalam :))
13. Naan Kadavul (orey periya nambikkai :D but eppo varum :twisted: )
14. Valmiki (OK movie but it too has chances to not come)
15. Jagan Mohini (kandippa varum for Namitha if not for IR)
16. Ajantha (IR ku overa jalra poduravangalae pothum IR-i field out akka :evil: )

So IR has only two films (NK and Nandalala) in Tamil, matthathellam vantha varattum pona pogattum

[MumbaiRamki]

Rahul Nambiyar in orkut says that he had the previlege to sing 10 songs for raaja in the past 2 months ! Entah album o !

[thumburu]

I have not much hope on "Anal kaatru" . Watching "adhu oru kanaa kaalam" [KTV Last sunday] was such an underwhelming experience with Raja's bgm alone the saving grace. BM, who once upon a time elevated the art of film making and cinematography to great heights with movies like "moondram pirai" , "azhiyadha kolangaL","Kokila" , has clearly lost his touch with "AOK" which neither caters to art genre nor commercial genre. After sometime , I decided to hear the movie rather than seeing it. Some poetic moments for sure but also few "nerudaL"s. Why is that jarring excuse of a humming in the background [no, not humming, "oalam" - to be honest] for almost 4 long painful minutes when Priyamani visits Dhanush's home after his misbehaviour episode , which is so.......UNIRish . I could understand if some ARR wanna-be is trying hard to dabble with rerecording . It is a terrible disappointment. Then it is high time Raja puts a complete full stop to his never ending torture of these "amma athaa" sentiment oppari . Thankfully this song was omitted in the cassette/CD

[rajasaranam]

Ilaiyaraaja Rocks Again in Kannada (http://entertainment.in.msn.com/southcinema/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1696262)

After the success story in Malayalam movies its good to note that Kannada filmdom is embracing our Raaja. His last 2 movies (Namma Preethiya Ramu & Aa Dinagalu) + songs in Kannada were huge hits. Let him be where he gets better recognition rather than composing for tamil & telugu audiences who have written him off completely and made him a commercialy unviable composer of these days :(

[rajasaranam]

RS,

I think you too would have seen the 'Nanusire' ad. They are there all over the place. No 'Nannavanu' yet :( BTW, I had once read an interview of the lead actor of 'Nanavanu'. The way he was describing his character (that of a guy in a cemetery) it looked like the movie was a remake of 'Pitamagan'. I may be mistaken though.

S.Suresh

suresh,

I raked my brain to recollect the image that I saw on the move, it seems definitely the poster of 'Nannavanu' :) May be the illusion is too much... but if its true then lets make merry for this forthcoming album :D

[raja_fan]

So IR has only two films (NK and Nandalala) in Tamil, matthathellam vantha varattum pona pogattum


Exactly !
Summa "32 years - 30 films in hand" -nu perumai peethikkalaam. Aanaal veli ulagaththai poruththa mattum IR oru retire aagi kondirukkira isai gnani ! :(

idhula "nalla script-thaan IR pannuvaar"-nu innoru alattal veru !
"naan Ir kitteye poga maatten"-nu solla virumbaamal "enkitte script illai..adhaan.." endru director-gal solraanga. Adhaiyum sila paer serious-aa nambittu kaalaththai thallrom :)

ennavo Madhu, En mana vaanil, manasellaam, Dhanam idhellaam world class script maadhiri..ennathe solla..kadavule...

[rajasaranam]

raja_fan,

konjam thiruththam...

Andhra'la - Retired MD (Not even a single decent hit in the past 10 years - Anthapuram his last hit was a 1999 release)
Tamilnaatu'la - May be going to Retire MD (no great hit in the past 4-5 years - Pithamagan was in 2004)
Kerala'la - MD in limelight (almost all albums composed in the past 10 years are hits)
Karanataka'la - Upcoming MD (Aa dinagalu was a hit)
North'la - Upcoming MD ( Cheenikum was a hit)

Inimae konja naal 'Kannada audio forum'la busya irukkanumnnu nenaikiren ;)
Neenga solratha paarththa ottu mothamma avara retire aakkittu thaan Oyveenga poala :)

[Sureshs65]

RS,

I agree with your assessment though it is a pity that an excellent album like 'Uliyin Osai' is not an hit, in the sense of sales. Sad but true.

S.Suresh

[irir123]

Sureshs65 - Uliyin Osai might have been a big hit in 1985-86 when semi-classical/classical songs were being accepted and understood - not any longer

Its IRs chosen path that he wouldnt resort to trashy loops - and its the general trend in the quality of our listening ears that Uliyin osai is not accepted!

nothing much to be said - the other option is for IR to come up with an outrageous 'pop'ish album and send people in a tizzy

lets be honest - only music that can be played in pubs/dance bars sell

[Sureshs65]

irir123,

Agree with you that Uliyin Osai may have been a great hit in an earlier era. That's why I am surprised when people say they are missing the Raja of olden days. When he comes in his old getup, no one recognizes him :))

I wish Raja has more success in Tamil commercially because that will enable us to listen to more of his music but I doubt if he will come out with a 'pop' album. I guess his brain wants a certain amount of complexity and he can't tune something very 'popish' I guess.

S.Suresh

[rooky]

More on "Sarigama"...

http://sify.com/movies/kannada/fullstory.php?id=14795864

IR is eagerly sought by Malayalam,Kannada industries and thats' because of his success there in recent times.A good one or two in Tamil shall bring similar scenario in Tamil.Let us hope movies like Nandhalala,NK do that to him.

[raja_fan]

More on "Sarigama"...

http://sify.com/movies/kannada/fullstory.php?id=14795864


oh ! same guy who directed "Nammoora Mandhara hoove" ?!
We can then expect a treat from "Sarigamapa" :D

[krish244]

[tscii:42ed48e7bd]Another new telugu movie by IR:

http://telugu.galatta.com/entertainment/telugu/livewire/id/Oh_My_God_launching_Nov_23_19934.html

"The internationally acclaimed Yoga Guru Kamal is making his debut as hero in Oh My God directed by Giridhar Gopal and produced by Sethu Madhavan under White Lotus Films and Entertainments banner. The film is all set to be launched on November 23 in Hyderabad.

Director Giridhar Gopal said, “The film, steeped in Telugu traditions, will unfold a series of incidents that occur in 48 hours.” Sarath Babu and Ali have important roles in the film.

Dialogues are by Balabhadrapatruni Ramani, camera is by Vasu, music is by Ilayaraja, special effects are by Dayton Taylor (Geneva), action is by Li Chi Git (Hong Kong, screenplay is by Ayyappa P. Sarma and story and direction are by Giridhar Gopal."

thanks,

Krishnan[/tscii:42ed48e7bd]

[steveaustin]

கன்னடத்தில் ராஜா பிசி!

இசைஞானி இளையராஜா கன்னடத்தில் படு பிசியாக உள்ளார். அங்கு 6க்கும் மேற்பட்ட படங்களில் ராஜா இசையமைத்துக் கொண்டிருக்கிறார்.

தமிழைப் போலவே பிற மொழி ரசிகர்களையும் தன் பக்கம் வைத்திருப்பவர் ராஜா. தமிழ், மலையாளம், தெலுங்கு, கன்னடம் என தென்னிந்திய மொழிகள் அனைத்திலும் இளையராஜாவுக்கு தீவிர ரசிகர் கூட்டம் உள்ளது.

நம்மூர மந்தார ஹூவே, ஹூமலே, பல்லவி அனுபல்லவி, கீதா, நீ நன்ன கெல்லாரே, ஜன்மஜன்மத அனுபந்தா உள்ளிட்ட இளையராஜா இசையமைத்துள்ள அனைத்துப் படங்களிலுமே பாடல்கள் சூப்பர் ஹிட் ஆனவை.

சிறிய இடைவெளிக்குப் பின்னர் மீண்டும் கன்னடத்தில் படு பிசியாக இருக்கிறார் இளையராஜா. ஏற்கனவே ஏகப்பட்ட கன்னடப் படங்களுக்கு இசையமைத்துள்ள இளையராஜா, தற்போது சரிகம, பிரேம் கஹானி, பாக்யத பெலகரா, நன்னவனு உள்ளிட்ட 6 படங்களில் பிசியாக இசையமைத்து வருகிறார் ராஜா.

http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/specials/2008/11/14-illayaraja-again-busy-in-kannada.html

[rooky]

Guess IR's next release...

As per today's Dinakaran, The Dubbed version of Mallepuvvu named "Malligai" is to be released Next month.

[crishna3]

Awaiting the great score from Maestro

[krish244]

Looks like Bagyada Belagara (kannada) will have 7 songs:

http://entertainment.oneindia.in/kannada/top-stories/2008/shivraj-bhagyada-balegara-211108.html

thanks,

Krishnan

[krish244]

11 minute song of "Naan Kadavul" going to be in Sanskrit?

http://tamil.galatta.com/entertainment/livewire/id/Vaali_pens_a_Sanskrit_song_for_Naan_Kadavul_20109. html

thanks,

Krishnan

[njv]

Thanks to IndiaTales for promptly shipping the CD. Received the CD.

Most of the songs are cine based (typical sad / amma songs). From BGM/intruments perspective disappointed to see synth usage for this devotional package. 1 song is a pure carnatic, with mirdhangams etc. 1 song feels like you are in a church.

The bonus CD has some good devotional songs, but thats not from IR!!! It comes with lyrics in all languages. Horrible lyrics. Cant they find someone nice to write such a huge devotional album!

I was expecting some Janani Janani or Hariharadthmajam type. No where near that.

Will wait for next release (naan kadavul)

[vigneshram]

Manikandan Geethmaalaa CDs are also available in stores, being the right season to release.

To be honest, I am disappointed with the songs except one or two.
Raja could have definitely done a better job in bringing the spiritual feel and the lyrics dont seem to fit the tune in some places.

[Sureshs65]

Got the 'Manikandan Geeta Mala' yesterday and listened to it once. I can understand njv's feeling, especially if you are looking for 'Janani' type of songs.

Personally I went in without any preconceived notions as to how this should sound and I found that the album has lots of melody in it. I don't know how a music director can capture the effects of a gentle breeze, the one that caresses you and has a soothing effect on you. Illayaraja does just that in 'Katre Katre'. Amazing. For me this song was worth the cost of the album.

Will write in detail about the album later. As of now all I can say is that if you are willing to go in without any preconditions (like it should sound like 'Geethanjali' or 'Ramanamala' etc) it is worth a buy.

S.Suresh

[Sureshs65]

BTW, an appeal to those who had ordered 'Manikandan Geeta Mala' online. Does your package contain the name of the lyricist in each of the languages. The CD cover does not have the name of the lyricist in any of the languages. Can you guys let us know who the lyricist are? (Even if the lyricist has done a bad job, we need to 'credit' him/her :)

S.Suresh

[crvenky]

As Suresh said, I was also satisfied with the album as I didn't have any expectations (I didn't like the samples). There is 1 Carnatic, 1 Hindustani and 1 western classical based. Rest are pure melodies with and simple orchestration.

The lyricist name is not given anywhere. But from Raja's message in the package, it seems he wrote the lyrics for Tamil. No idea about other languages. I heard the Tamil version only once and yet to hear the other languages.

If you had liked Amma Pamalai, Ramana Malai, etc, you would like this too.

[rajasaranam]

This is only a promotional material with 'Manikantan Geet Mala' in the additional CD Hence it needs to be promoted :twisted:

Mandir Sabari (http://www.esnips.com/doc/ebd4abbe-173d-46e9-b448-422a1dcc329d/MGM09-Mandir-Sabari) - Beautiful tune and rendition it definitely gives us a blissful feel in the begining and moves towards Ecstacy during the crescendo, making us get immersed into the 'Bakthi' Feel. A must listen for all Believers and Rationalists like me :| ( Nalla irukku Just like when I listen to 'Polla Vinayen'. This song also transcends us into a different plane)
This should be a new and one of the kind song since there may not be any 'Bhajans' on 'Iyyappa'
Enjoy Listening :)

[Sureshs65]

RS,

Not downloadable from esnips?

Someone had earlier posted the video of the making of this song earlier. It had ended abruptly. A very nice song indeed.

S.Suresh

[Sureshs65]

Fantastic bhajan. The crescendo is excellent. Would have been an ideal choice to include in the album as it really gets you into the spirit of Iyyappa. Strange are the workings of the music companies.

Thanks for loading this RS. It made my day as well.

S.Suresh

[kameshratnam]

Heard it in tamil. :(

[rajasaranam]

While the Album 'Manikantan - Geet mala' was a complete let down for me ( Iam still trying to relate to the album, tried listening again and found some glimpses of brilliance in some songs) but Iam hooked onto the 'Mandir Sabari' Bhajan. Watch the full live recording HERE (http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=E9WjMR8jFSk)

Next in stock from the promotional CD was the ART behind the making of 'Manikandan'. The Short clip takes you through the Evolution of the movie, the state 'Kerala' its culture and its peoples romance with colors and murals. Beautiful short film for which i presume Raaja has given music, since he is associated with the movie completely. Watch HERE (http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=XCzlPfp2Prw)

Next came the Behind the scenes and some beautiful songs being recorded for the movie. In totality this should the first biggest Project won which Raaja is working on. They have different songs for the movie, different songs in MGM, promotional songs, promotional videos and ofcourse the BGM for the movie. The video also explains the animations and characters being used in the movie. This Promo definitely gives us an Idea of What is in store for us. We can proudly say 'Indian Animation Industry has come to Age'. The way the project is shaping up I know its going to go places and reach greater heights and ofcourse Raaja has given his soul for this musical. Listening to songs in bits in this clipping I like these songs more than the Album MGM. Watch HERE (http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=fzP1LWvfLwc)

And finally the Promotional Trailer for the movie. Once I saw this and heard the music 'I shouted...tha Sultanukku Appu vaikka vanthaaryaa Manikantan' Thats it! Watch HERE (http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=wDQPttnY0fU)

Upload panni mudichittu Intha Write-up Ezhuthi post panrathukulla trailerkku 15 views :) Yaarppa athu naan enna upload pannuvaennu kathirunthu Paayrathu :P

[crvenky]

RS, the trailer music and title song is composed by somebody else. I saw that recording clipping also in the promotional CD. Is IR going to score only the BGM for the animation movie or the songs too?

[rajasaranam]

CRV,

The Trailer clearly says 'Original score by Ilaiyaraaja' I doubt anybody else will be involved in the music score. I had my doubts while seeing another man teaching the kid to sing in the Behind the scenes video, but that could be someone like our own Late. Sundarajan who teaches the song/tune to the singers.
BTW When Raaja composes for the manikantan Geet Mala, the Promotional Bhajan and the original score of the film why do we need to doubt that somebody else will compose for the songs and trailer?!! The grand Trailer music definitely have the stamp of Raaja :notworthy:

[crvenky]

I saw Maestro's name in the movie titles as Original Score. Thats why I had a doubt if he will compose songs also. Because when they show another MD, I think they credit him for title song. The song was more like a Kerala traditional song. I will check the video again at home.

[rajasaranam]

CRV,

I saw the videos again and still believe in what I say. I think the team in the studio is matching video & audio and it seems like composing. but still hmmm... Ur point is also valid. Lets wait :|

[rajasaranam]

OTOH the only instance when he scored only BGM where another MD composed the songs (One song was done by Raaja) was for 'Lajja'. Even for 'Heyram' He refused to score only BGM.

[raja_fan]

And finally the Promotional Trailer for the movie. Once I saw this and heard the music 'I shouted...tha Sultanukku Appu vaikka vanthaaryaa Manikantan' Thats it! Watch HERE




Thanks for the video RS !

But the trailer doesn't come near to Sultan's trailer in brilliance..

[MrJudge]

But the trailer doesn't come near to Sultan's trailer in brilliance..

I think it is because of 2D animation instead of 3D... But the forest frames at the end looks cool and they are in 3D.

[rajasaranam]

But the trailer doesn't come near to Sultan's trailer in brilliance..

I think it is because of 2D animation instead of 3D... But the forest frames at the end looks cool and they are in 3D.

As Judge Says both are different types of Aniamtion. While I dont know how you perceive it, Having worked in the animation industry for few years I know the difference! only in 'manikantan' we have cracked open the nutshell and shown the world what a 2D animation from India would be. No 2D movie which I had seen earlier was this detailed and good to compete internationally.
We have a long way to go for 3D animation movies. 'Sultan' - atleast the trailer was mockery on 3D animation movies coming out from elsewhere in the world. The sets/props and the animation itself was not upto the mark. May be the End product would be different :huh: but looking from the trailer 'Manikantan' Beats 'Sultan' by miles. Take out the Superstar factor from Sultan and you will know the difference

Oneway its better to give a World class 2D movie than an amateurish 3D movie. Otherway its good to attempt a 3D movie cos we should keep failing and learn from mistakes :) Iam just happy for that 'Manikantan' is going to be a success story :D
.

[Sureshs65]

RS,

Thanks for the postings. The trailer music is terrific and I am sure it must be Raja.

I like the MGM album as well. I want to post a detailed review but currently short strapped for time. Will do that soon.

Hope this movie is a big success. The trailer does look enticing. BTW, when is the movie scheduled to be released.

S.Suresh

[Sureshs65]

Thumburu / Usha,

See the trailer that RS has uploaded. An enticing Reethigowla at the end. Very brief one.

S.Suresh

[rooky]

http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/kannada/article/43087.html

Director of "Prem Kahani" is planning tamil version of his latest hit "Taj Mahal"...


With the guidance of Music Maestro Ilayaraja he is taking up the Tamil version of 'Taj Mahal' after 'Prem Kahani

[rooky]

Thumburu / Usha,

See the trailer that RS has uploaded. An enticing Reethigowla at the end. Very brief one.

S.Suresh

Loved the score..IR at his usual best..

[rooky]

http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/kannada/article/43087.html

Director of "Prem Kahani" is planning tamil version of his latest hit "Taj Mahal"...


With the guidance of Music Maestro Ilayaraja he is taking up the Tamil version of 'Taj Mahal' after 'Prem Kahani


Music Maestro Ilayaraja is scoring nine tunes for this film and he has given a wonderful advice that I am inculcating in my professional and personal life informed the excited R.Chandru.

[rajasaranam]

BTW, when is the movie scheduled to be released.

S.Suresh

April 2009 >>> the same time 'Sultan' is also scheduled :)

[entertainment]

While the Album 'Manikantan - Geet mala' was a complete let down for me ( Iam still trying to relate to the album, tried listening again and found some glimpses of brilliance in some songs) but Iam hooked onto the 'Mandir Sabari' Bhajan. Watch the full live recording HERE (http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=E9WjMR8jFSk)

Next in stock from the promotional CD was the ART behind the making of 'Manikandan'. The Short clip takes you through the Evolution of the movie, the state 'Kerala' its culture and its peoples romance with colors and murals. Beautiful short film for which i presume Raaja has given music, since he is associated with the movie completely. Watch HERE (http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=XCzlPfp2Prw)

Next came the Behind the scenes and some beautiful songs being recorded for the movie. In totality this should the first biggest Project won which Raaja is working on. They have different songs for the movie, different songs in MGM, promotional songs, promotional videos and ofcourse the BGM for the movie. The video also explains the animations and characters being used in the movie. This Promo definitely gives us an Idea of What is in store for us. We can proudly say 'Indian Animation Industry has come to Age'. The way the project is shaping up I know its going to go places and reach greater heights and ofcourse Raaja has given his soul for this musical. Listening to songs in bits in this clipping I like these songs more than the Album MGM. Watch HERE (http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=fzP1LWvfLwc)

And finally the Promotional Trailer for the movie. Once I saw this and heard the music 'I shouted...tha Sultanukku Appu vaikka vanthaaryaa Manikantan' Thats it! Watch HERE (http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=wDQPttnY0fU)

Upload panni mudichittu Intha Write-up Ezhuthi post panrathukulla trailerkku 15 views :) Yaarppa athu naan enna upload pannuvaennu kathirunthu Paayrathu :P

RS,
Thanks for the video. The BGM is really exciting. "The Master is on the Move" :bluejump:

[Vkrish]

RS,

Thanks for your links. BGM is exciting as usual... but more importantly i could observe the striking difference in the quality of sound recording, and the output are on par with those of Shiva & cheenikum....hmm...the recording done at Mumbai always stand apart... Prasad studio engineers should go for a KT to Mumbai :)

[Sureshs65]

I found the recording of 'Manikanta Geeta Mala' quite good. Though there is no info on the CD cover about where it was recorded, I guess it must have been at Mumbai. The keyboard sounds so good in the songs. Wish most of his other film songs are also recorded with this type of quality. I am sure it is possible in Chennai itself.

S.Suresh

[Shankar]

>>>>
.the recording done at Mumbai always stand apart... Prasad studio engineers should go for a KT to Mumbai
<<<<

No need...if he can go to panchathan recording inn, very much in chennai, things would sound good :)

[MrJudge]

No need...if he can go to panchathan recording inn, very much in chennai, things would sound good :)

What about Harris's studio, that is equally good or better nowdays than panchathan :lol2:

[kiru]

I think Sethu was recorded in Panchathan and it was not very great. Compare Sethu with geetanjali or thani kaattu raaja (raasavu unnai naan specifically) you can tell those older albums are much better recorded. ARR or HJ or YSR do not record like the way IR does. They record each instrument separately (close miced) and then mix it up. They will add 'artificial space' to the sound (or reverb/delays effects). It is always tricky to record IR's songs (like they way they are doing for Manikantan) and it is also tricky to play it back. Some people might think IR songs are not recorded well, even though it might be !!! IR pushes instruments behind the vocals, whereas ARR just keeps it a low level (sometimes not). This depth to different instruments is very difficult to tell in ordinary audio systems and might sound 'hazy'.
ARR ushered in a new recording style (lets call it, POP, style as it is made for consumer audio equipment) and IR followed a different style (lets call it 'classic' meaning traditional/old) .
BTW, I liked Manikantan music. The prelude to the girl/title song where the flute stops and the strings play sounds like 80s music of IR, even like to the extent of a specific song.

[rooky]

Let us hope this Happens...

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/dec-08-01/naan-kadavul-01-12-08.html

[MrJudge]

//dig


ARR or HJ or YSR do not record like the way IR does.

There is a difference in YSR's songs from others if you hear the orchestration part (I don't think he blindly follows as HJ does) and for vocal parts he does IR's kind of recording.

[raagas]

I think Sethu was recorded in Panchathan and it was not very great. Compare Sethu with geetanjali or thani kaattu raaja (raasavu unnai naan specifically) you can tell those older albums are much better recorded. ARR or HJ or YSR do not record like the way IR does. They record each instrument separately (close miced) and then mix it up. They will add 'artificial space' to the sound (or reverb/delays effects). It is always tricky to record IR's songs (like they way they are doing for Manikantan) and it is also tricky to play it back. Some people might think IR songs are not recorded well, even though it might be !!! IR pushes instruments behind the vocals, whereas ARR just keeps it a low level (sometimes not). This depth to different instruments is very difficult to tell in ordinary audio systems and might sound 'hazy'.
ARR ushered in a new recording style (lets call it, POP, style as it is made for consumer audio equipment) and IR followed a different style (lets call it 'classic' meaning traditional/old) .

But i really fail to understand why the overall listening experience of ARR songs is much elevated, recording-wise.Undoubtedly it is not just the recording theatre but also the sound engineers involved.ARR now owns another studio, which, it is believed that he built by with huge investment. International artists such as John McLaughlin and also artists such as Guitar Prasanna, Ustad Zakir Hussain have praised this studio a lot, having recorded their recent albums there. Rahman is allowing others to use it, so Probably ilaiyaraaja can use that studio.
Coming to the recording,Ilaiyaraaja had some of the best recording in 80s.But i think in 90s, or 2nd half of 90s, the recording suffered a lot.Or probably, the new wave of sound and recording made his stuff look inferior. Also, the recordings done in Bombay were different from that done in Chennai Then post-2000 era, it picked up. Now we have album which have very good recording and some fall flat. The malayalam film Sooriyan is an example.
Also i think there is not much difference today, between the recording styles of IR and ARR.I mean,now it is a norm to record things in bits and pieces and mix them up. Ilaiyaraaja is an exception only in recording vocals, which he does in 1 go.But instruments,he does mix later.Like in the case of Mumbai Express.Guitar prasanna recorded a piece for some other album and Ilaiyaraaja edited it..changed it and added many elements to it, long after the Prasanna's recording happened, and used the final stuff for theme music of Mumbai Express.
LIstening to the techno sounds in some of IR albums..such as Dhanam,it is clear that the style of recording is not much different from ARR or HR or YSR.
But a lot has to do with sound engineer. ARR had one of the best sound engineers in India, H.Sridhar, who passed away yesterday morning, unfortunately. And all said and done, we must credit it to ARR for bringing out a new sound, an international sound to Indian Film Music.This was accepted by KarthikRaja too(Filmfare Magazine, 1997), that giving a new break-through sound to Indian film music is the biggest contribution of ARR.
The bottonline is, IR needs to come out of Prasad recording studio and look at other avenues as well, apart from Bombay and Budapest. There is no dearth of state-of-art equipment now,in Chennai.

[kiru]

raagas, Mr Judge, et al,
My post was a generalization. For eg, I have not listened much to YSR in the last few years. I guess he does try to straddle between ARR and IR in style as well as recording. In the case of IR, he might have resorted to mixing in sounds, because of the available current technologies. THis is the reason, I gave the example ("like the way they do in Manikantan").
Please dont mistake me, even though ARR is my favorite composer after IR, I still like the better recorded songs of IR, over ARR's best. There is a real 'acoustic space' in IR's songs recorded with the vibrato of natural instruments i.e. the naadham, I guess they say in our languages. To reiterate, ARR songs most always have the vocals behind the instruments, with IR it is the instruments behind the vocals. I hope you will agree with this generalization atleast if you listen critically. To take this generalization further, IRs orchestration is to provide harmony to a main melody that is the reason it has to stay behind or come in during breaks (fills). The style is also different from Indian classical music where taalam cycles are introduced to add complexity (actually, I feel ARR is similar to IR in this aspect), instead a steady cycle is used, over which the strings play harmony to vocals or violins or flute complete a sentence made by the vocals. In my opinion, it takes a completely different ear to listen to IR or ARR. When it comes to totally melody based songs, there is quite a bit of convergence (for eg. chinna chinna aasai).

I agree that many of IRs songs lack in recording quality, but I wanted to point out the difference in style so that we can appreciate the better ones from IR.

(BTW, the comparison is only to bring out the differences in composing style and I dont mean to start a flame war here :-). Maybe I digressed but to me it is the total package )

[thamizhvaanan]

ARR ushered in a new recording style (lets call it, POP, style as it is made for consumer audio equipment) and IR followed a different style (lets call it 'classic' meaning traditional/old) .


Enaku orey oru sandhegam, if not for consumer listening experience, what else are you recording for? :roll:


The style is also different from Indian classical music where taalam cycles are introduced to add complexity (actually, I feel ARR is similar to IR in this aspect), instead a steady cycle is used, over which the strings play harmony to vocals or violins or flute complete a sentence made by the vocals.

I would disagree here. I feel this is one among the basic difference between IR style and ARR style. You are right in pointing out that ICM has taalam cycles and ARR does incorporate it. A good deal of IR's songs have steady rhythm which can possibly make the listener lose interest (songs like Oh vasantha raja being some of the glorious exceptions). If you listen to H.Sridhar's interview posted in ARR forum, he mentions abt ARR improvising backgrounds in his songs. Thats one reason why ARR's songs generally feel more energetic and also why they are not palatable on first listen.Lots of time-signature changes within a track, tune shifts, uncommon structure etc., a la Metallica in a way.

I completely agree with ragas. IR had great quality in recording during his early 80's songs. If he wasnt interested in gizmos he wouldnt have gone for Stereo sound in Priya right? And he didnt hide his excitement abt the equipment as well. Listen to songs like Malayil yaaro and Sempoove from siraichalai... arent they sweet on ear? :huh:

One thing I always hate is the quality of his chorus.. How does he have the heart to spoil his wonderful creations with such cheap sounding chorus :banghead: Poove poochoodava is such a beautiful song, but the chorus in the beginning (jingle bell tune) is :banghead: Or even the chorus in Aayiram thamarai mottugaley... it sounds so bad to the extent of sounding like a self mockery :roll:

[Dragun]

It is an underestimation to say that ARR simply introduced pop sound. ARR simply introduced the natural progression of how Indian film music is recorded. Not only did he have compositional skill, he also knew how to use the recording and mixing processes to create an aura of sound, an atmosphere, for each song. It is not just about what notes are played and sung, it is also about how they are presented.

IRs overuse of synth makes his music these days often sound very artificial. His strength is not in using synths, loops, etc., unless sparingly.

[Sureshs65]

While I agree that there are many Illayaraja songs where the rhythm is steay, especially in the charanam, but there are equal number of songs where the rhythm is pretty tricky. Infact from a complexity point of view, when it comes to rythm, I don't think Rahman's rhythm have the same sort of complexity as Raja's rhythm. Would suggest people to read Vicky's blog where he analyzes how Illayraja uses various rhythmic cycles like mishra chapu etc and also how he uses different 'edupus'. Rahman's rhythms are very catchy no doubt but when it comes to the overall complexity I would say that Illayraja's rhythms are far ahead. Just listen to 'Lovely Lita' from the Telugu movie Shambu to have an idea of what I mean. And I am not even talking about how wonderfully the bass guitar always adds to this complexity. That's probably a different subject by itself.

S.Suresh

[kiru]

Suresh, you are right. I think IR is better than ARR but probably less so than the older master. Actually, I wanted to mention the nadai/rhythm changes rather than taalam here. My bad.
I have to agree with Thamizh though on the bad quality of the chorus in IR's songs. Apparently, ARR had to introduced good quality backup singers to match the good looking extras in Shankar's movies ..just kidding :-)
Yes, ARR gives quite a bit of rhythm variations but I dont think he does this along with the vocals. He does this in the interludes mostly. Compares this with IR's interludes which most times have no rhythm instruments.
Anyways, I will qualify my generalization based on the type rathan than the composer. Rhythm based compositions have rhythm instruments highlighted/placed in front of the vocals, whereas melody based compositions the instruments are placed behind the vocals.
Thamizh, if you want energy in IR songs ..I just heard naan thaanda ippa devadaas, aahaya gangai, aathu mEttula ..etc these are rhythm driven, which variations and all the energy. For melody - aazhak kadalil theEdiya muthu (really miss kannadhasan).

BTW, film music is surely for consumers. But IR's music is not really optimised for consumer equipment. He could not have done this because people were listening to his music over AM radio and only optimization he did was just boost the vocals a bit. The rest of the stuff were done with whatever he thought was the right levels. For eg. the dynamic range in IR's music is big i.e there is a big difference between the softest sound and the loudest sound. In the case of POP music, the rule of the thumb is to maintain a level constantly (which is usually high).

Anyways, I started talking about this, because we need to appreciate the different styles of recording. I suggest people who are interested in music to invest in audio equipment as well. You will be amazed to hear good recordings of IR at a reasonably good volume reproduced with full range speakers and good electronics. It feels like the instruments are there in the room. Very transparent, probably due to direct mixing without much manipulation on the computer.

[Sureshs65]

Hi Kiru,

What you say is true. In many Rahman songs the interludes have some nadai variations in the rhythm but generally the vocals are backed by a constant beat.

I have heard SPB say that the tabla player for MSV, who also plays for Raja, used to do a lot of variations while playing for the song and MSV would encourage it. Whereas in case of Illayaraja he had to play exactly what Raja had in mind and was not supposed to improvise. IIRC this tabla players name was Prasad and he is supposed to be a very respected musician in the film music circles. He was a judge for the SPB 'Ennodu Paatu Padungal' once.

Your post is quite educative on the recording techniques. In many cases of Raja's songs, I do feel the bass is very soft and you have to strain to catch the bass. That sometimes pains me because Raja's bass work is great. In most of the songs of the current composers you can see that the bass level is quite high and is very much audible. In the more recent songs of Raja I have found the bass levels a bit high but the earlier songs always had lower bass level. Any particular reason?

S.Suresh

[Dragun]

I've never heard any of IR's music on vinyl, but I have a couple of Oriental Records CDs of his music which do sound quite good. Very natural, for the most part.

[raja_fan]

Are we discussing anything related to "IR's new albums" here ??

[thamizhvaanan]

While I agree that there are many Illayaraja songs where the rhythm is steay, especially in the charanam, but there are equal number of songs where the rhythm is pretty tricky. Infact from a complexity point of view, when it comes to rythm, I don't think Rahman's rhythm have the same sort of complexity as Raja's rhythm. Would suggest people to read Vicky's blog where he analyzes how Illayraja uses various rhythmic cycles like mishra chapu etc and also how he uses different 'edupus'. Rahman's rhythms are very catchy no doubt but when it comes to the overall complexity I would say that Illayraja's rhythms are far ahead. Just listen to 'Lovely Lita' from the Telugu movie Shambu to have an idea of what I mean. And I am not even talking about how wonderfully the bass guitar always adds to this complexity. That's probably a different subject by itself.

S.Suresh

:) I hope I didnt discuss complexity, coz like Kiru, what I meant was variation in rhythm, not necessarily the complexity. Suresh, could you please get me some online links for some of the songs you are referring to. I would love to rediscover this aspect of IR's music. May be some I wouldnt have listened to, some listened to yet not paid attention. And I also hope that their numbers are substantial, otherwise I might be tempted jot them down as exceptions :)

Regarding his bass guitar, I always get a feeling that they are not married to the rhythm in background. Mostly they are like counter melodies, sometimes they dont even repeat like a riff. In many cases, bass guitar plays the notes of other instruments but not the percussion.

[thamizhvaanan]

Thamizh, if you want energy in IR songs ..I just heard naan thaanda ippa devadaas, aahaya gangai, aathu mEttula ..etc these are rhythm driven, which variations and all the energy. For melody - aazhak kadalil theEdiya muthu (really miss kannadhasan).

Listening to podhuvaaga from murattu kalai now :wink: Perhaps I put it across differently, will discuss it in a different thread. IR and ARR have absolutely contrasting ways of bringing energy into their songs as well as while bringing out other emotions also.

[thamizhvaanan]

Your post is quite educative on the recording techniques. In many cases of Raja's songs, I do feel the bass is very soft and you have to strain to catch the bass. That sometimes pains me because Raja's bass work is great. In most of the songs of the current composers you can see that the bass level is quite high and is very much audible. In the more recent songs of Raja I have found the bass levels a bit high but the earlier songs always had lower bass level. Any particular reason?

S.Suresh

In a old interview, ARR's bassist keith peters was asked what is the major change you have seen in post 90's music scene... He was quick to point out that bass levels has increased a lot since rahman arrived.

Suresh, its not just the current composers, Bass was always more prominent even in the classic Jazz and rock songs... just that our composers always felt that it shudnt interfere in their songs.

[Sureshs65]

Hi Tamizh,

I don't have the online links with me now. If you check the Sharing IR thread you can get links to what Rajasaranam has uploaded. It has songs of Shambu and also the songs of Yugandhar. Listen to 'Naa Paruvam' to have an idea of what I meant by complexity. As I said, you can check out the songs listed by Vicky in his blog. Unfortunately I don't have any online links for them either. I am sure Raja has done enough on the rhythm side to be more than exceptions. Infact they are exceptional :) Maybe we do require a separate thread to discuss this aspect.

I was talking about the Indian composers when I was speaking about the bass levels. Bass has always been prominent in rock music.

S.Suresh

[thamizhvaanan]

Suresh,

I think there is a seperate thread in rhythm arrangements in IR section. I cant quite locate it.

[Sureshs65]

Tamizh,

I will also check for that thread and maybe we can continue the rhythm discussion there.

S.Suresh

[crajkumar_be]

. In many cases of Raja's songs, I do feel the bass is very soft and you have to strain to catch the bass. That sometimes pains me because Raja's bass work is great. In most of the songs of the current composers you can see that the bass level is quite high and is very much audible. In the more recent songs of Raja I have found the bass levels a bit high but the earlier songs always had lower bass level. Any particular reason?


I disagree. Bass guitar is (was?) Raaja's signature and im talking about 80s here and not the recent songs. And TV sonna madhiri, in many cases the bass will function as a counter melody, taking the 'lead', so to speak. I mean you can't miss the lines... Maybe during the period in the 90s many melodies had very 'typical' (by Raaja's standards) bass lines which were rather mild..

[Sureshs65]

Now to pacify raja_fan :) here is my review of 'Manikandan Geeta Mala'.

Now, this is not a typical bhakti album, like many other Ayyapan albums available in the market. Illayaraja, as usual, questions or fixed ideas on how a bhakti album should be. So this may appeal to some people and may not appeal to others. Here is my review of the songs.

Katre Katre Nillu : To me the best song is at the beginning. Like 'Meghasandesam', here the singer appeals to the air to carry Ayyapan's name to all ears. The orchestration is minimal and Raja somehow conjures up the effect of a mild breeze with this tune. The total effect is one of great melody. Is this a suitable tune for a bhakti song? You can argue on that but not about the melody.

Irumudi Kattukulle : This is more a typical tuning and can be played on the loudspeakers. Based probably on Vakulabaranam, (I am not sure), the charanams, especially when the high notes are hit, is very charming. The tune is typical Raja, with its twists and turns in the charanam.

Ayyappan Azhaikamal : Starts softly and the interludes have nice flutes. Again nothing expansive done in the interludes. The main focus is on the tune.

Bhaktanin Bharangal : Starts off in a racy way with the tabla playing a constant beat. The idea of the song seems to be that of anger in the initial stages and the chorus brings in a calming effect. Nice shenai usage in the interlude.

Engum Boologathil: Lovely song. Not able to get the ragam but seems to be closely allied to Hamsanandi. The songs starts of beautifully and when the chorus joins in the melody becomes even better. The interlude has hindustani style flute.

Udambellam oru romanjanam: A very melodious soft song which is very soft without turning sappy. The flute which comes in the prelude is lovely. A sense of calm prevails when you listen to this song.

Ayyappa Bhaktargal Ellam: I would probably rate this song as the best after 'Katre' but whether this would qualify as a bhakti song of Ayyappa is questionable. My feeling is that njv was probably referring to this song ' as being in a church'. The chorus is definitely western in nature but done in an excellent fashion. Showcases Raja's grip on this form of music.

Om enum pranavame: This is a typical carnatic krithi. Based on Hemavathi. Nothing much to say about this except that it is a nice song and sung well by Shankaran Namboodri.

In recent times I have heard some very highly hyped albums and felt quite let down. This album was dismissed earlier but I found this to be a very nice and listen to it almost daily.

Having said that, I agree that this album may not be everyone's cup of tea. Most of us would be expecting some semi-classical songs when it comes to bhakti albums and except for the last krithi, there is no song which wears its raga on its sleeve.

As I said earlier, it almost looks like Raja is questioning our prejudice when it comes to bhakti music. Why should it be only set to certain type of tunes and when we are talking about all devotees of Ayyappa being one, why not make all music one (choral music often not heard in Hindu bhakti albums.) These are some of the challenges that he throws up and asks us to question our own prejudices.

Would I recommend this unreservedly to everyone? Maybe not. As I said, if you are looking for a typical bhakti album, this may not be your cup of tea. In case you are looking for songs which give you some peace, give a sense of calm and some great melody, this is the album for you.

The lyrics are nothing to shout about. It is a mix of bhakti and philosophy. Very typical Illayaraja lyrics. They seemed to have just translated this to other languages. I have heard this album in Tamil, Telugu and Malayalam. Balu adds a touch of drama to the Telugu rendition, Vijay Jesudas and Madhu Balakrishnan do a nice job in Malayalam, while favorite is Illayaraja's rendition in Tamil.

S.Suresh

[Sureshs65]

Rajkumar,

Fully agree with you about Raja's bass. It is definitely his signature. What I meant was from a recording perspective the bass was given lower volume and the other sounds were given more volume.

S.Suresh

[Tamilan]

Is 'Manikandan Geeta Mala' CD available in Chennai stores? and where?

[Sureshs65]

Tamilan,

I am sure it should be. I see it all major stores in Bangalore. It is available in Landmark in Bangalore so I assume it would be available in Landmark in Chennai. Look for it in the bhakti songs rack.

S.Suresh

[thamizhvaanan]

Tamizh,

I will also check for that thread and maybe we can continue the rhythm discussion there.

S.Suresh

Suresh,

Found the thread. Surprised, you made the last post there :)

http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=8735

[Sureshs65]

Thanks Tamizh. I forgot about that :) We can continue the discussion there.

S.Suresh

[raagas]

One thing I always hate is the quality of his chorus..


I agree. I must admit,although i DO NOT wish to raise any controversial discussion here,that there were times when i was floored by the chorus in ARR's songs.And there are many such songs of his too.At that time, i wondered why IR cant use similar chorus ensemble...or give a more polished feel to the chorus.I mean i can rattle of atleast a dozen albums of ARR which has very ear-friendly sweet chorus.
But then,as they say...every composer is distinct and has their own way.Thats how i usually keep the difference between IR and ARR.

[raagas]

Are we discussing anything related to "IR's new albums" here ??

Ooops..sorry...i now realize we have digressed.

Anyways, what is next IR album? is it Naan Kadavul?I am really thirsty for his next.Dhanam disappointed me,but still,i am always hopeful you see :)

[K]

http://cenimafun.blogspot.com/2008/12/blog-post_04.html some good news about naan kadavul, raja working for BG score now

[Fliflo]

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/dec-08-01/arya-06-12-08.html


On how Naan Kadavul influenced Arya's decision..!

December 06, 2008

It's probably stale news that Arya is turning producer with his new venture and that his as-yet-untitled production venture will star debutants in the lead. Latest in this series is that Arya, after having been impressed with the Maestro Ilayaraja's music for Naan Kadavul, has persuaded to agree Ilayaraja score for his project.


As for his acting career, he seems to be on a long wait until the cows come home, since his only pipeline project Naan Kadavul, mired with battles between the producers, seems to be showing no progression in its release.

[rajasaranam]

I have raised this query in another thread let me post here too to get the answers from learned people :)



The Titling in the 'How to name it' Collection have some confusions I believe. What we have listened to as 'Mad mod mood fugue' may be 'Dont compare' (Mixed feelings) as per this review written by Kalyan and CSR. .
http://www.raaja.com/Rv-How%20to%20name%20it.pdf

The CD I have is the same as this one http://www.hummaa.com/music/album/30075/Ilayaraja-how+To+Name+It
Where 'MMMF' is same one that is being discussed by everyone here. But what we had known as 'You Cannot be free' is 'MMMF' as per Kalyan's/CSR's review :huh: :confused2: :roll: :confused2:

[ananth222]

I have raised this query in another thread let me post here too to get the answers from learned people :)



The Titling in the 'How to name it' Collection have some confusions I believe. What we have listened to as 'Mad mod mood fugue' may be 'Dont compare' (Mixed feelings) as per this review written by Kalyan and CSR. .
http://www.raaja.com/Rv-How%20to%20name%20it.pdf

The CD I have is the same as this one http://www.hummaa.com/music/album/30075/Ilayaraja-how+To+Name+It
Where 'MMMF' is same one that is being discussed by everyone here. But what we had known as 'You Cannot be free' is 'MMMF' as per Kalyan's/CSR's review :huh: :confused2: :roll: :confused2:
I've brought up this issue before and even posted it on the IR yahoogroups mailing list, but no response from anyone. The CSR review seems to have the names correct, the oriental CD is wrong. MMMF is the one wrongly called "you cannot be free" in the CD. The song based on the krithi "thulasidala" is named wrongly as "study for violin" on the CD - it should be called "Its Fixed". The short piece based on Bach's "Bourree" is wrongly named "Don't compare" on the CD - it must be called "I met Bach in my house". I don't know why no one has taken this up at a higher level, cos it reflects badly to have a complex krithi rendition as a "study". Until then, "Its NOT fixed".

[NagaS]

Is Manikandan geetha mala available commercially? I don't seem to be finding it in Bangalore Music Stores (atleast not under 'movie albums' section)

NagaS

[Sureshs65]

NagaS,

It is indeed available at Bangalore. I bought it at Calypso in Jayanagar. I also saw the album at Landmark in Jayanagar (Swagath Garuda Mall). I am sure you should get it in Landmark in Forum as well. Look in the bhakthi section, or ask them for the current Ayyappa CDs. You will find it there.

S.Suresh

[NagaS]

NagaS,

It is indeed available at Bangalore. I bought it at Calypso in Jayanagar. I also saw the album at Landmark in Jayanagar (Swagath Garuda Mall). I am sure you should get it in Landmark in Forum as well. Look in the bhakthi section, or ask them for the current Ayyappa CDs. You will find it there.

S.Suresh

Thanks Suresh, Will try the bakthi section tomorrow!

NagaS

[raja_fan]

http://malayalam.galatta.com/entertainment/malayalam/livewire/id/Pazhassi_Raja_Vishu_Release_20475.html


Velangidum :Bang

[SVN]

First it was 2008 Onam, then Deepavali and now 2009 Vishu! Going by these delays, perhaps it would be appropriate to change the film's title to "Pazhasu" Raja!

Well, I am hoping that we would get to hear the 'Pazhaiya' Raja once again. Time for a class score like Guru!

[rprasad]

Eagerly awaiting the next IR release. Meanwhile cannot help but digress on the new of ARR getting Golden Globe nomination for SlumdogMillionaire original soundtrack. While i am happy that he got the honor and he may even go on to win this as well based on some of expert picks, i am sad at the same time that a genius like IR is still languishing in the small world of South indian film music. While i dont doubt the talent of ARR, i genuinley feel that R's music would have had more appeal to Western listeners in a way like John Williams's heavy orchestra based brilliant themes for so many movies was.
What does everyone think? While i think ARR seems very good at the Indian/western pop techno fusion kind of music, i am not sure he really has the comfort level as far as his knowledge of western orchestral music, to do serious scores in a John Williams kind of way. this is where i feel IR could have easily given some brilliant scores if he had been presented with a chance.
Maybe if he had released his symphony he might have got the exposure he needed in the iternational world. Sorry for digression but this is worth talking about in the absence of any new IR albums now.

[K]

http://www.tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/Hotnews/2008/december/111208c.asp

romba usupethuranga pa

[MrJudge]

http://www.tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/Hotnews/2008/december/111208c.asp

romba usupethuranga pa

என்னப்பா இது.... அஞ்சு பாடல்கள்ன்னு சொன்னாங்க, இப்ப இரண்டு மட்டும்ங்கிறாங்க :roll:

[raja_fan]

http://chennaionline.com/film/startrack/Dec08/12ST37.aspx

idhuvum romba usuppeththaraa maadhiri thaan theriyudhu :)

[Tamilan]

http://www.tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/Hotnews/2008/december/121208.asp

[MrJudge]

http://chennaionline.com/film/startrack/Dec08/12ST37.aspx

idhuvum romba usuppeththaraa maadhiri thaan theriyudhu :)

:cool2: But Arya should get directors like Bala on-board to get that kind of score.

[njv]

Eagerly awaiting the next IR release. Meanwhile cannot help but digress on the new of ARR getting Golden Globe nomination for SlumdogMillionaire original soundtrack. While i am happy that he got the honor and he may even go on to win this as well based on some of expert picks, i am sad at the same time that a genius like IR is still languishing in the small world of South indian film music.

Like you mentioned, IR preferred and probably still preferring to be in a small well than exploring outside. May be he dont believe in him reacher better heights and getting international recognition. Someone who understand our pulse and very close to IR has to start preaching IR. He has to come out of the tamil movie world where "dappanguththu" is the norm these days.

[krish244]

It says Mysskin has requested IR to compose a symphony (BGM) for the movie and that he has invited four symphony specialist from
Hungary to help IR

I remember seeing a photo sometime back of four hungary musicians with IR (I think it was for TTLS or Ajanta). I am thinking it must be the same set of guys.

http://tamil.galatta.com/entertainment/livewire/id/Hungarian_symphony_artists_in_Nandalala_20719.html

thanks,

Krishnan

[Hulkster]

It was for TTLS, i hope that film came out because IR said the french horn played a huge part in the BGM.

BTW 4 to do a symphony? :?

[kameshratnam]

TTLS - Did it even release?

[rajasaranam]

It was for TTLS, i hope that film came out because IR said the french horn played a huge part in the BGM.

BTW 4 to do a symphony? :?

Raaja has been using our own artistes for the symphonic music he had been giving all these years. He will use these foreign artistes for some specific/specialized instruments I believe.

[raagas]

Eagerly awaiting the next IR release. Meanwhile cannot help but digress on the new of ARR getting Golden Globe nomination for SlumdogMillionaire original soundtrack. While i am happy that he got the honor and he may even go on to win this as well based on some of expert picks, i am sad at the same time that a genius like IR is still languishing in the small world of South indian film music.

Like you mentioned, IR preferred and probably still preferring to be in a small well than exploring outside. May be he dont believe in him reacher better heights and getting international recognition. Someone who understand our pulse and very close to IR has to start preaching IR. He has to come out of the tamil movie world where "dappanguththu" is the norm these days.

Despite me being a fan of IR, i have few reservations about certain things about him. Among them is his attitude to undermarket himself.One needs to cut down hype but one can always do appropriate marketing.And for IR, marketing means nothing but releasing some of his precious works and forging relationships with good film-makers.He also needs to give a scores that suit the film and film-maker's vision (he did..once).I recently tried to figure out how ARR chooses his films and delivers. Slumdog millionaire's director wanted a very techno, racy and edgy score and not an orchestral work. ARR delivered exactly that. On the other hand, for a chinese film named 'Warriors of Heaven and Earth' and for Shekhar Kapur's "Elizabeth - The Golden Age", ARR used lot of orchestral melodies(i am not comparing with IR). And for "The Lord of The Rings" musical, ARR's tunes are more of Irish,celtic folk. The spectrum of genres for all these projects is varied and he delivered accordingly. Now how did he clinch these projects? obviously because of his 'inclusive' attitude..lot of travelling, making new friends, networking etc. ARR has been exploring new platforms and pushing that envelope further. Dont you think his clientelle (list of film-makers who seek his music) is commendable?

Now, what can IR do? he needs to breakout and take offbeat assignments.Explore his strengths more(ARR did exactly that, ie., trying eclectic music) and that means do more of orchestral music, come up with music-videos which put the music on larger platforms. if he is unsure about which film would be good and which could be bad, then he needs to focus on non-film albums which are like How to Name it, Nothing But wind, Thiruvasakam.
Think of it, even classical/fusion artists such as L.Subramaniam, L.Shankar, pt.Ravi Shankar etc won international film assignments only through their classical/fusion albums.
IR is a legend no doubt,but i'd like to see his music become more universal..in different genres. if ARR can collaborate with ace violinist Vanessa Mae,why not IR? Why not Irish music fusion with Carnatic? Why not some symphony mixed with pop? Even pure symphonies are enough, to catapult him. He really needs to go Global, in every sense.

[Hulkster]

I thought he always gives a score that suits the film and film-maker's vision, which is why he is revered for his BGM?

Anyway if you read IR's wishes he only does music for the sake of exploring but not for the sake of awards or getting fame. He has mentioned before that he has alot of ideas of exploring music but the problem is the country will not accommodate him for such projects.

I can safely tell you that he had alot of chances to go international in his heydays but refused them simply beause of his non-interest in doing it plainly for awards(The italian music festival director massimo simone i think could only get him after he convinced IR that the concert profits go for a good cause).

Lets just enjoy what IR gives us instead of lusting for more. If he wants he will give and we will enjoy if not he has his super big collection of songs which trust me, cannot be listened to in one year.

I thought he has only explored WCM and carnatic but my word, there is jazz,blues even quissential disco and celtic influences, latin coming in as well, lets just say he has already mastered most genres.

[raagas]

I thought he always gives a score that suits the film and film-maker's vision, which is why he is revered for his BGM?

Anyway if you read IR's wishes he only does music for the sake of exploring but not for the sake of awards or getting fame. He has mentioned before that he has alot of ideas of exploring music but the problem is the country will not accommodate him for such projects.

I can safely tell you that he had alot of chances to go international in his heydays but refused them simply beause of his non-interest in doing it plainly for awards(The italian music festival director massimo simone i think could only get him after he convinced IR that the concert profits go for a good cause).

Lets just enjoy what IR gives us instead of lusting for more. If he wants he will give and we will enjoy if not he has his super big collection of songs which trust me, cannot be listened to in one year.

I thought he has only explored WCM and carnatic but my word, there is jazz,blues even quissential disco and celtic influences, latin coming in as well, lets just say he has already mastered most genres.

Ofcourse his scores do suit the film, but i wish he doesnt accept those run-of-the-mill films.Yes,he is unmatchable at BGMs,but do we have film-makers who justify that?And if some brilliant film-makrs are not approaching him,then why compromise?instead he can use his time and ideas for non-film works right?
Yes i lust for more, only because i can sense or imagine what all he can dish out.
Oh yes,he did explore disco etc...but not much now-a-days.I am not expecting him to repeat 'Agni Nakshatram' or 'mouna raagam' but what i am saying is..his music had that shock value earlier..the music, the expanse, the canvas, the orchestration..they all hit you with wonder and it made us all immediately bow our heads.Tht 'shock value' is missing.and i strongly believe that he is not exhausted, it is only that his vision has changed. Thiruvasakam had that shock value. Uliyin Osai had that shock value.And some albums like Adhu Oru Kanaa Kaalam etc do not have shock value, but they do have some wonderful music to lap up. I am only critical about films like Dhanam etc, in which i have to skip 4 songs to listen to (only) 1 good song.
i will be highly happy even if he re-orchestrates his own classics, something like 'Mood in Kapi', in the form of symphonic music.Even that is ambrosia for my ears and soul.

[njv]

TTLS - Did it even release?
released long time back (either dec 07 or march 08 last year, i bought this in Coimbatore during my visit. Had a lengthly DVD style box. Got the mix of Anjali, Guru and TIS).

[raja_fan]

Naan Kadavul Pongal release !

http://www.zimbio.com/Tamil+Movies/articles/2010/Naan+Kadavul+release+Pongal

but which Pongal ? ;)

[MumbaiRamki]

Naan Kadavul Pongal release !

http://www.zimbio.com/Tamil+Movies/articles/2010/Naan+Kadavul+release+Pongal

but which Pongal ? ;)

Look at teh URL , it says the year !
இப்படி delay பண்ணினா , பெரியார் மேல தான் nambigkai வரும். கடவுள் மேல ,இல்ல..:)

[krish244]

IR on "Naan kadavul":

http://tamil.galatta.com/entertainment/livewire/id/Ilayaraja_on_Naan_Kadavul_20765.html

He says the movie betters all earlier Bala's movies and also that it will take years for any other director to attempt such a theme. Praise from IR!

thanks,

Krishnan

[thilak4life]

Can't wait!

[rajasaranam]

IR on "Naan kadavul":

http://tamil.galatta.com/entertainment/livewire/id/Ilayaraja_on_Naan_Kadavul_20765.html

He says the movie betters all earlier Bala's movies and also that it will take years for any other director to attempt such a theme. Praise from IR!

thanks,

Krishnan

:bluejump: :redjump: :bluejump: :ty: Krish

[app_engine]

The legendary music director also added that he is honoured to compose music for such a film.

மெய்யாலுமே ராசா தான் இப்படி சொன்னாரா? சந்தேகமா இருக்குப்பா!

எப்படியானாலும் நல்லாருந்தா சரி:-)

[app_engine]

இப்படி delay பண்ணினா , பெரியார் மேல தான் nambigkai வரும். கடவுள் மேல ,இல்ல..:)

In any case, the title is obviously AGAINST faith in God, so they are only living up to it:-)

[raja_fan]

app_engine,

The title is not against faith in God !

It is just tamil version of Advaita principle "Aham Brahmaasi" ( I am Brahmam/God, because everything is only one consciousness ).

Ok..Idhoda niruththikkaren :)

[app_engine]

Once again, I really doubt whether the reporter actually interviewed IR and wrote the article. Looks quite out of place if one follows the career of IR. I think lot of it is written based on the writer's imagination, to promote the movie.

If one follows IR's career, yes, he is obviously an emotional person and at times throws superlatives on some people and situations (e.g. திருவாசகம் பற்றிய "பிறவிப்பயன்" கமெண்ட், பொம்மலாட்டம் இசைத்தட்டு வெளியீட்டில் பாரதிராஜா பற்றி சொன்னது).

Still those are mostly exceptions -related to long-term things / people close to him - and not the rule. He would have probably told some superlatives but I doubt about himself being honored to score for a single film????

If it's true, it may be a sign that he is "really" getting old:-)

[app_engine]

app_engine,

The title is not against faith in God !

It is just tamil version of Advaita principle "Aham Brahmaasi" ( I am Brahmam/God, because everything is only one consciousness ).

Ok..Idhoda niruththikkaren :)

My last digression -

I understand the philosophical title and the faith based on this philosophy. However, I was only commenting on the very general meaning of the term 'கடவுள்' as understood by most common people - an entity who/that is superlative to anything 'human' (often understood as a person in many faiths).

And someone with "average reasoning powers" will understand that claiming divinity in any one / anything automatically eliminates the necessity of ANOTHER supreme being (God) - and I think that is equivalent to "atheism", simply going by the meaning of the word:-)

End-digression

[MumbaiRamki]

கேட்க நன்றாக இருக்கிறது ..பார்ப்போம் ..பாலாவின் படங்களில் characterisation நன்றாக இருக்கும். அதனால் BGM நன்றாக இருக்கும். பாடல்கள் தேவைக்காக இருக்கும்.

[kameshratnam]

I guess Nandalala will come out first before NK

[raja_fan]

so what happened to other releases..? IR had nearly 10-15 in the list....??

Valmiki
Jagan mohini
Ayyan ( I hear another Ayyan with Surya..confusion )
Azhagar malai

etc..etc

[raja_fan]

Ok. Jagan Mohini for Pongal

http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/43033.html

If NK and Nandhalala join JM, it will be a triple simultaneous release for IR after years ( even a decade )

[raagas]

Ok. Jagan Mohini for Pongal

http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/43033.html

If NK and Nandhalala join JM, it will be a triple simultaneous release for IR after years ( even a decade )

Interesting, but raja_fan.. just curious.. how do you think this album JM would be? Going by the stills, I am just not expecting anything..i'd like to be surprised (and that means i am expecting something :D ) .. Anything is possible with IR's music. :)

[krish244]

Ok. Jagan Mohini for Pongal

http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/43033.html

If NK and Nandhalala join JM, it will be a triple simultaneous release for IR after years ( even a decade )

Interesting, but raja_fan.. just curious.. how do you think this album JM would be? Going by the stills, I am just not expecting anything..i'd like to be surprised (and that means i am expecting something :D ) .. Anything is possible with IR's music. :)

I feel, JM album will be somewhat on the style of Uliyin Osai i.e. a mix of classical/semi-classical songs and some little modern sounding songs. At the moment, this is my expectation level :). Lets see.

thanks,

Krishnan

[raagas]

Ok. Jagan Mohini for Pongal

http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/43033.html

If NK and Nandhalala join JM, it will be a triple simultaneous release for IR after years ( even a decade )

Interesting, but raja_fan.. just curious.. how do you think this album JM would be? Going by the stills, I am just not expecting anything..i'd like to be surprised (and that means i am expecting something :D ) .. Anything is possible with IR's music. :)

I feel, JM album will be somewhat on the style of Uliyin Osai i.e. a mix of classical/semi-classical songs and some little modern sounding songs. At the moment, this is my expectation level :). Lets see.

thanks,

Krishnan

Even i presume so. But know what, JM is an infamous film. or rather the original JM (whose remake is the current one), is a very infamous film, a B-Grader infact with Vamps and sleaze. It became popular because it was a hit (because of the content) and now they are remaking it on 'that' popularity. The story is about a price being lured by a vamp. And the objectionable content was too vulgar/sleazy rather than aesthetic.To be honest, it is really sad that IR is scoring music for that kind of film (i really want to ask him why he rejects some films and accepts some.He says 'Story should be good'. well, then what about JM?).But i am only hopeful that he will be the lone glimmer of entire JM, if he gives good music. Some hopes are because of it being a period film. So, expecting a bit of vintage era music.

[baroque]

Let us see..
Remember EROTIC PONMENI URUGUDHEY.... with Silk Smitha and Kamal.
Like that If namba Raaja whips up a devastating musical with alluring vocal, picturized with pleasing dance movements ... will be exciting :musicsmile: :redjump: :swinghead:

பொன்மேனி உருகுதே
என் ஆசை பெருகுதே
ஏதேதோ நினைவு தோணுதே
எங்கேயோ இதயம் போகுதே

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoSilMsNH-M

I am all pumped up already...

Namba Ilayarajaa got the WILD music in his blood! :bluejump: :redjump:

இளமை இது ஏங்கும் வயது
இருவிழியும் தூங்காது
இனிமை சுகம் வாங்கும் மனது
இனியும் இது தாங்காது
இளம் மேனி வாடுதே தணலாகவே....

***************************

நேத்து ராத்திரி ... யம்மா
தூக்கம் போச்சுடி ...

************************************

கட்டில் போட்டதும் தெரிஞ்சுக்கணும்
கொல்லை பக்கம் ஒதுங்கிட புரிஞ்சுக்கணும்
ம்ம்ம்ம்ம் ம்ம்ம்ம்ம்ம்
ஆ ஆ ஆ ச்சே ச்சே ச்சே ஆ ஆ

நிலா காயுது நேரம் நல்ல நேரம்..... SEXY MUSIC
Come on ilayaraaja, Let's GO!! :) ஆசையா இருக்கே .... :D

The sexy tunes, the feelings orchestration evokes, soulful, delicious vocals... aahaa! a new level of energy, a tingling sensation all over my body...

AUDACIOUS ILAYARAAJA, I am in love.. :bluejump: :redjump:

I WILL WAIT FOR YOU WITH LOVE!

Vinatha.

[raagas]

I love it too...and scores of 'seductive' songs that IR has composed. that is why i am keeping an open mind about JM's music. I was only talking about how much of a 'bad film' original JM was back then.

[baroque]

raagas, I vaguely remember the movie but don't recall a single song from the old film.

anyway... Yesterday evening was perfect. :)

காத்திருந்தேன் கதவ திறந்தேன் உள்ளுக்கு வந்தேன்
காதல் செய்ய கத்துத் தரனும் முன்னுக்கு வந்தேன்

நான் வாடை புடிக்கும் மல்லிகப் பூவே
வண்ணப் புறாவே வா
Sensuous LOVER BOY with Janaki...Mr.BHARATH.

கை தொட்டதும் தொட்டு சம்மதப் பட்டு வா

Sure, Raaja got some SEXY TUNES! :redjump:

VINTAGE ILAYARAAJA FLUTE ORCHESTRATION!

இன்ப கலைகள் எத்தனையோ அது என்று தொடங்கியது யாரறிவார்
சொல்லித் தரவும் மீதம் உண்டோ
இந்த சொர்க்க சுகங்கள் தந்தது யார்
காலங்கள் எங்கே நின்றதுவோ கண் கொண்டு காதலர் கண்டதுவோ
மின்மினியே நிறம் என்ன சொல்லு

I threw some Ilayaraja's seductive music to take control of me.
The drums, catchy beats, mesmerizing flute, violin, guitar passages traveled through my body ....GREAT, FEELING BEAUTIFUL! All SMILES :D

Now I crave for this man more! :)

Ethereal romantic poetry backed with sultry sexy music delivered with a masculine voice I CRAVE I CRAVE... with HOPES :musicsmile: :swinghead:

[irir123]

in Kounder style " rendu naalavey indha thread orey kilu kiluppaa irukappaa" - ))

[baroque]

நான் தான் :) :redjump: :bluejump:

He can't hang around with you boys all the time. :evil:

வா காத்திருக்க நேரமில்லை
ஒ ஒ ஒ ....
நீ பூத்திருக்கும் வாசமுல்லை
ஒ ஒ ஒ ...
விரகதாபம் விளையும் காலம்..
விலகியிருந்தால் வாடை வாட்டும் வா..

ரொம்ப ரொம்ப... LOVE YOU ILAYARAJA! Elegance personified


KALYANI BREEZE with the ENDURING Vocals... Balu & Janaki

What a magical love song..... an escape to the world of ceaseless beauty and trance! :musicsmile:

Losing myself to your affection ! What a romantic atmosphere!

vinatha.

this thread closed. :)

they discuss Jaganmohini here

http://www.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=1634582#1634582

[Tamilan]

Add some more

காத்து காத்து ஊதக் காத்தும் வீசுதே

sexy and romantic

[rajasaranam]

வருது வருது இளம் காற்று இந்த வசந்த மலரின் இடம் பாத்து
இனிது இனிது அதன் பாட்டு இந்த இதயம் ரசிக்கும் அசைபோட்டு
சிறகு முளைத்த கிளி போலே மனம் பறக்க நினைக்கும் புவி மேலே
தனிமை நினைவு இனிஏது ஒரு தலைவன் தழுவ வரும்போது
வருது வருது இளம் காற்று இந்த வசந்த மலரின் இடம் பாத்து
இனிது இனிது அதன் பாட்டு இந்த இதயம் ரசிக்கும் அசைபோட்டு


நாடி எங்கும் ஓடிச்சென்று நாளும் ஒரு சூடேற்றும் ரூபமே
நேசம் என்னும் நெய்யை விட்டு நெஞ்சில் நிதம் நானேற்றும் தீபமே
தோளில் உன்னைத் தாங்குவேன் இதழ் தேனை தினம் வாங்குவேன்
கேளு பறிமாருவேன் அதில் நானும் பசியாறுவேன்
பாலும் தேனும் தீர தீர ஊருமா

ஊரைசுற்றும் தேரும் இன்று சேரும் இடம் சேராமல் வாடுதே
தேவன் வன்Tஹான் தேரைக் கண்டு சோகம் இனி சொல்லாமல் ஓடுமே
நாளை சுபவேளை தான் அதில் கூடும் மணமாலை தான்
நாளும் புது லீலை தான் இனி ஏது இடைவேளைதான்
ஆடல் பாடல் ஆசை தீர காணலாம்

Prelude, interlude rhythm everything oozes eroticism. the most naughty pair SPB & Janaki ;)

There are few female singers who can replace her and also while we can never get another SPB :( Songs like these makes us yearn that We want Them Back in Raajas music :x

[kameshratnam]

Brahma song

Not forget Khushboo in that scene... :D

[crvenky]

RS, how can you forget the other twin in that movie - rathiri neram rayiladi oram.

[krish244]

Nandalala to release this pongal:

http://tamil.galatta.com/entertainment/livewire/id/Nandalala_to_release_on_Pongal_Mysskin_20875.html

They keep using the word "symphony" music !!. Enga poi mudiya pogudho :). Nevertheless, I am expecting some nice western classical music. Lets see.

thanks,

Krishnan

[raagas]

RS, which song is that that you quoted in Tamil?

I am sorry folks, i cannot read/write/speak tamil (i can sing tamil though :) )
i know this is forum is tamil based but it would help people like me if you can give a bit of information in english too. no offence meant. Just that i dont want to lose out on anything important. Thats all.

[Sureshs65]

Raagas,

The song is 'Varuthu Varuthu Ilam Katru', from the movie Brahma.

He has given the complete lyrics of the song.

S.Suresh

[baroque]

Great, You guys posted couple of more immortal musicals. :musicsmile:

I can't resist adding this one :) LOVE YOU RAAJA! :D

raise your romantic vibrations with Shri. Ilayaraaja's celestial KANNIL EDHO.....
wind instrument orchestration is sacred & enticing. :musicsmile:
Intimate melody haunts me for decades... :swinghead:
Around 1984.. Golden school years! I used to blush, my friends teased me all the time. Raaja, even after 2 decades + romantic musical still gives me that nervous, tender teenage feelings. :ty:

http://www.thiraipaadal.com/TPplayer.asp?sngs=%27SNGIRR2796%27

KANNIL EDHO MINNAL ADICHCHIRUCHCHU
கண்ணில் ஏதோ மின்னல் அடிச்சிருச்சு
KAAMAN VEETTU SANNAL THERANDHIRUCHCHU
காமன் வீட்டு சன்னல் தெறந்திருச்சு

Prosperity, Health and Plenty of warm & loving friends are my wishes for you all!

vinatha.

[raja_fan]

baroque, podhum...
limitoda irundhaa thaan ellaame azhagu..

[baroque]

raja_fan, I am done.
Why do you say that?
What did I do wrong?
I am not ashamed to say I love this composition.
One of my favorite song from glorious 80s ilayaraja.
The mood of the composition is devastating.
Heavenly orchestration.
Haunting, divine music is oozing out of Ilayaraja's hands, HOPING he will churn out a song with the mood of this magnitude in his upcoming JAGAN MOHINI.
I posted the ethereal song (I deleted the lyrics,OK) and wished you guys.

anyway...

Nostalgic tune... lingers in my heart. I and my friend forever smitten by the musical and Ilayaraja.. decided to share this morning.
worthy friends, love them dearly.
We might not have the chance to hang out like the past, but they are always special to me.
For me, my friends, my cousins, my bro in laws, our love for Ilayaraja's hypnotic music ETHEREAL kannil edho... from Ilayaraja.
vinatha. :)

[rajasaranam]

raja_fan,

What harm did baroque do? She was enjoying some of Raaja's fabulous compositions and sharing it with us, where is the need to limit ourselves when we are drunk till the brink with Raaja's music :) I've Felt myself becoming mad listening to his music sometimes! hell let me be insane at those moments but it feels like bliss and nobody can stop blabbering after getting enlightened :)

[raagas]

Thanks suresh, for that translation. Yes..that song is indeed one hell of a song.

[thumburu]

Let me join the merry , romantic party [sorry raja_fan professor :) ] . Iam currently basking in the "Abheri" beauty of "ennai thottu aLLikonda mannan perum ennadi" . When SPB sings, makes me hopelessly weak-kneed, vulnerable .
How I miss this magical SPB-IR combo :((

[nanchil_guy]

thumburu,

that was most aired song in the Radios when it got released in early 90's, i am also wondering how could you miss such an hit number. Nonethless a wonderful song and as you mentioned beatifully rendered by SPB and Chitra ?

baroque,

you have been doing wonderful job in this thread, those songs you mentioned especially ponmeni and kannil etho are immortal among not only IR fans but among all the listeners.

[buggle]

thumburu,

that was most aired song in the Radios when it got released in early 90's, i am also wondering how could you miss such an hit number. Nonethless a wonderful song and as you mentioned beatifully rendered by SPB and Chitra ?

baroque,

you have been doing wonderful job in this thread, those songs you mentioned especially ponmeni and kannil etho are immortal among not only IR fans but among all the listeners.

nanchil_guy,

It's SPB and Swarnalatha, not Chitra

[baroque]

What a prelude humming by swarnalatha.
Lude Music flows like Ganges in... Ennai thottu....Karthik is cute. :)

Feels great to Celebrate Ilayaraja always! :bluejump:

Let's mellow down a bit with the nobility and splendour of early Ilayaraja.
:ty:
MOHANAM breeze from early Ilayaraja.

engum niraindha.....idhu eppadi irukku

gentle drawl in their voices ENCHANTING Yesudas with MELODIOUS Janaki.
Truly blazing humming, violin, guitar, flute, veena, tabala, nature sounds orchestration.


check it out,

http://www.thiraipaadal.com/TPplayer.asp?sngs=%27SNGIRR1241%27

let the soothing music flow over you like a cool breeze....:musicsmile:

GOD BLESS ILAYARAAJA!


எங்கும் நிறைந்த இயற்கையில் என்ன சுகமோ
பொங்கி வரும் சின்னஞ்சிறு உள்ளங்களில் என்ன கனவோ
எண்ணங்களில் என்ன சுவையோ

எங்கும் நிறைந்த இயற்கையில் என்ன சுகமோ
பொங்கி வரும் சின்னஞ்சிறு உள்ளங்களில் என்ன கனவோ
எண்ணங்களில் என்ன சுவையோ

பார்வை ஜாடை சொல்ல
இளம் பாவை நாணம் கொள்ள
பார்வை ஜாடை சொல்ல
இளம் பாவை நாணம் கொள்ள
அங்கு காதல் கோலமிடும்
மனம் தாகம் பாடிவரும்

எங்கும் நிறைந்த இயற்கையில் என்ன சுகமோ
பொங்கி வரும் சின்னஞ்சிறு உள்ளங்களில் என்ன கனவோ
எண்ணங்களில் என்ன சுவையோ

கூகூகூ கூகூகூ

வெண் பனிப் போல் அவள் தேகம்
அள்ளும் செங்கனி போல் இதழ் மோகம்
வெண் பனிப் போல் அவள் தேகம்
அள்ளும் செங்கனி போல் இதழ் மோகம்
தேனாக லலலல
ஆசை தேனாக ஆசை அது ஆறாக
வாழ்வில் இன்பம் நூறாக

வா

ஹ்ம்ம்

வா
ஹ்ம்ம்ம்ம்

வா ஹ்ம்ம்ம்ம்ம்ம்

எங்கும் நிறைந்த இயற்கையில் என்ன சுகமோ
பொங்கி வரும் சின்னஞ்சிறு உள்ளங்களில் என்ன கனவோ
எண்ணங்களில் என்ன சுவையோ

தங்கமும் வைரமும் போலே
தொட்டுத் தழுவிடும் ஆசைகள் மேலே
தங்கமும் வைரமும் போலே
தொட்டுத் தழுவிடும் ஆசைகள் மேலே
சேராதோ லால லா லா லா
மோகம் சேராதோ மோகம் அது தீராதோ
தேகம் கொஞ்சம் வாடாதோ

வா

ஹ்ம்ம்ம்ம்

வா

ஹ்ம்ம்ம்ம்

வா ஹ்ம்ம்

எங்கும் நிறைந்த இயற்கையில் என்ன சுகமோ
பொங்கி வரும் சின்னஞ்சிறு உள்ளங்களில் என்ன கனவோ
எண்ணங்களில் என்ன சுவையோ

எங்கும் நிறைந்த இயற்கையில் என்ன சுகமோ
பொங்கி வரும் சின்னஞ்சிறு உள்ளங்களில் என்ன கனவோ
எண்ணங்களில் என்ன சுவையோ

Vinatha :) HAPPY HOLIDAYS :wave:

[Sureshs65]

Excellent song Vinatha. There was a series in Dhool.com which had lot of gems which went unnoticed or from films which never were released. That's where I heard this song first and was as they say nowadays, "I was blown away".

S.Suresh

[crvenky]

Naan Kadavul audio on January 1st!

http://sify.com/movies/fullstory.php?id=14825082

[kameshratnam]

Wow what a start by IR ...Super Super Super

It will be followed by wow wow's like

Nandalala

Pazhassi Raja

Jagan Mohini

2009 - A treat for IR Fans

:notworthy: :bluejump: :thumbsup: :ty: :2thumbsup: