DARK KNIGHT

[Vivasaayi]

ANYONE WATCHED IT? :D

[MrJudge]

thani thread-e pottuteengala?

[sarna_blr]

Chatting pandradhukku pudhu THREAD"aa :lol2: :yessir:

[Sid_316]

Not yet going on sunday cant wait :D...

[MrJudge]

Times now channel gave only 2.5/5 points :roll: Is the movie good or average? I still have my hope on Nolan.

[Sid_316]

OH FREAKIN AWESOME! JUST FREAKIN AWESOME! I DONT HAVE WORDS TO DESCRIBE... IT JUST BLEW MY MIND... ONE OF THE BEST ENTERTAINERS EVER.. HEATH LEDGER AS JOKER JUST STOLE THE SHOW...RIP HEATH.. AND THIS IS NOT AN AVERAGE STUPID SUMMER BLOCKBUSTER WANNABE! HIGHLY RECOMMENDED... BEST MOVIE OF 2008 TILL NOW


Y so Serious ;) lets put a smile on that face

[Sid_316]

And btw its no1 in imdb top 250 :O

[littlemaster1982]

Watched it two days back. I liked the film very much but I'm not sure if this is one of the best movies of all time :roll:

And Joker must be the craziest villain ever. My favorite scenes,

*Mild spoilers*

1. Joker sticking his head out of the car window and enjoying the fresh air after escaping from the police custody :notworthy:

2. Sliding down the heap of money

3. "I thought my jokes were bad"

4. Fiddling with the trigger when the bomb doesn't go off and a mild jerk after the explosion.

[kannannn]

My favorite scenes,

*Mild spoilers*

1. Joker sticking his head out of the car window and enjoying the fresh air after escaping from the police custody :notworthy:

2. Sliding down the heap of money

3. "I thought my jokes were bad"

4. Fiddling with the trigger when the bomb doesn't go off and a mild jerk after the explosion.

Mine:
"Does he have any friends?"
"Have you met this guy?"

The fire truck in flames!!

The hospital scene you mentioned

"This city deserves a better class of criminal"

Ledger's lecture on schemes and schemers (that is the theme of the movie in a nutshell)

[littlemaster1982]

The hospital scene you mentioned

"This city deserves a better class of criminal"

Ledger's lecture on schemes and schemers (that is the theme of the movie in a nutshell)

The whole hospital scene is just superb :clap: I liked that 'fire truck' one too :)

Waiting for the DVD to come out.

[VENKIRAJA]

The hospital scene you mentioned

"This city deserves a better class of criminal"

Ledger's lecture on schemes and schemers (that is the theme of the movie in a nutshell)

The whole hospital scene is just superb :clap: I liked that 'fire truck' one too :)

Waiting for the DVD to come out.

The best part was he laughing all the way when thrown down from the building.
"This is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object!"
Stunning dialogues
Amazing work from the villain.Two extremes of bad childhood as the protagonist and antagonist.He's in the lists of Hannibal Lecter from the Silence of the lambs,Alex D'large from ACWO,Verbal Roger Kint of Usual Suspects and all those legendary Villains,minimising Jack Nicholson's previous role.Someone posted this on the hub: "The JOKER"S Dark Knight"

I'm waiting for the HD DVD...no rips this time!

[ajithfederer]

Absolutely. Should watch it one more time this weekend :D



The hospital scene you mentioned

"This city deserves a better class of criminal"

Ledger's lecture on schemes and schemers (that is the theme of the movie in a nutshell)

The whole hospital scene is just superb :clap: I liked that 'fire truck' one too :)

Waiting for the DVD to come out.

The best part was he laughing all the way when thrown down from the building.
"This is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object!"
Stunning dialogues
Amazing work from the villain.Two extremes of bad childhood as the protagonist and antagonist.He's in the lists of Hannibal Lecter from the Silence of the lambs,Alex D'large from ACWO,Verbal Roger Kint of Usual Suspects and all those legendary Villains,minimising Jack Nicholson's previous role.Someone posted this on the hub: "The JOKER"S Dark Knight"

I'm waiting for the HD DVD...no rips this time!

[kannannn]

Absolutely. Should watch it one more time this weekend :D

Yedhavadhu vendudhala?

[ajithfederer]

:lol:

Padam rombo pudichu pochu and I yaam vetti as of now :yes:


Absolutely. Should watch it one more time this weekend :D

Yedhavadhu vendudhala?

[VENKIRAJA]

ANYONE WATCHED IT? :D

Seems everyone's watched it.
394 Million Dollars so far.Inches behind Titanic.That stupid movie should be atleast second now.Ellarum thayavu senji intha padatha ottungappa!Sources say that LOTR will be defeated and Titanic could be.

[ajithfederer]

Titanic's overall Gross is way too high :oops:. But it can/should beat its Domestic collection :yes:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=titanic.htm


ANYONE WATCHED IT? :D

Seems everyone's watched it.
394 Million Dollars so far.Inches behind Titanic.That stupid movie should be atleast second now.Ellarum thayavu senji intha padatha ottungappa!Sources say that LOTR will be defeated and Titanic could be.

[VENKIRAJA]

Dark Night has collected 415 million $ in 3 weeks.Shrek 2 did collect 441 million $ in 21 weeks.It should easily be the 2nd most domestic grosser(US) and the overall gross is yeah too high.
It'll beat Starwars' domestic gross by this weekend at the rate it is going.

http://www.imdb.com/boxoffice/alltimegross

;)

[directhit]

loved the movie - Heath Ledger :bow: :bow:

"Does he have any friends?"
"Have you met this guy?" :lol:

but the best ever movie :? therla

[jumbo]

704 million collections. that is astounding one.
441 domestic. it will better starwars and near titanic :D

[ajithfederer]

Venki

I strongly disagree with your signature. Christian Bale was so adequate as a Batman. I feel your signature is a dig at a very good movie :oops:. Just my opinion, anyways.

[littlemaster1982]

I agree with AF. Venki :oops:

[VENKIRAJA]

Bale was good in begins also,his characterisation was so deep.It didn't have such a run,or even give a wholesome experience.I have seen powerful negative characaters in movies(The best IMO was Samuel Jackson,Pulp fiction and HAL 2001),But the joker was amazing.If he wasn't there I'm sure the movie wouldn't have this champagne-fizz feeling!IMVHO he was the real hero of the movie.Anyways point accepted.

[VENKIRAJA]

And it has finally happened,My favourite movie is the new imdb #1!

P.S:I haven't watched Godfather 2 and 3,I hardly remember my age when I watched Godfather 1.

[ajithfederer]

Venki, Thanks :)

No second thoughts on joker(Why would i keep his avatar then :) ). IMO, after Nolan's script and direction Joker is the second best USP of the movie. But to call Bale as a sidekick is something i would disagree. Anyways me ending the digression here.

[VENKIRAJA]

Venki, Thanks :)

No second thoughts on joker(Why would i keep his avatar then :) ). IMO, after Nolan's script and direction Joker is the second best USP of the movie. But to call Bale as a sidekick is something i would disagree. Anyways me ending the digression here.

Still i hold my stand.Joker wasn't the villain of the movie.He was another hero,yeah.Did he look like man with a plan af? :twisted:

//end digr.//

[ajithfederer]

For me in many movies Villains are the hero's :P. Same holds for Javier Bardem from No country for old men.


Venki, Thanks :)

No second thoughts on joker(Why would i keep his avatar then :) ). IMO, after Nolan's script and direction Joker is the second best USP of the movie. But to call Bale as a sidekick is something i would disagree. Anyways me ending the digression here.

Still i hold my stand.Joker wasn't the villain of the movie.He was another hero,yeah.Did he look like man with a plan af? :twisted:

//end digr.//

[ajithfederer]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Batpod.jpg

The batpod in display @ LA

[thilak4life]

Haven't seen the film yet. :cry:

[Sid_316]

thilak :-O u havent seen it? wat the hell man ? :P

[ajithfederer]

:shock: surprising :P

Haven't seen the film yet. :cry:

[VENKIRAJA]

namba mudiyalaye!
Anyways You will like it,i beleive.

//Please explain me the greatness of TWBB,Sorry but I can't sit through half of the movie//

[ajithfederer]

Crossed star wars and nearing Titanic(???)

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/domestic.htm

[rangan_08]

Someone posted this on the hub: "The JOKER"S Dark Knight"



ullein ayya http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=11612&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=615

[Nerd]

I had these two pre-conceived notions

1. Everyone is saying the movie is good. I mean everyone, the hub, ALL my friends, all my colleagues, all my friends/relatives back home. My expectations sky-rocketed and people around me were pushing it higher, every freakin' day. With such high expectations I will hate the movie.

2. Joker is like one of the best villians ever. Again, people around me started comparing him with Alex (ACWO), Frank (Blue velvet). I said to myself, that dude is dead - sympathy wave working ovetime.

I was completely bowled over. I mean EVERYONE around me was right. The movie simply rocked! I still can't believe that all the hype surrounding the movie (it was freakin' HUGE in this part of the world) was worth it! In fact it has surpassed the hype I would say.

I had one more, before watching the batman begins. All superhero movies are dumb, meant for kids. I watched BB and I was proved wrong. The Dark Knight has gone one step further I should say. The characterizations of Joker, Dent, Gordon, Alfred, Bruce and Batman himself. Nolan, take a bow!

Favorite scenes
1. Joker's intro at the bank, I don't think any villian character has had a better intro in hollywood history.
2. Joker's scene in Wayne's house. Where is Dent and You did not choose the right words I'm afraid while he was holding Rachel.
3. Joker's, Even for a guy like me, its cold
4. Bruce's, I certainly hope its not when Dent tells him Rachel has told everything about him
5. Dent's last scene when the Batman turns his face to pronounce him good.
6. Alfred's Endure Master
etc!

[ajithfederer]

Nerd :thumbsup:

Summava naanga 3 thadavai IMAX-la paathom :smokesmirk:

[NOV]

Nerd :thumbsup:

Summava naanga best movie of the year'nu sonnOm :yes:

[P_R]

1. Everyone is saying the movie is good. I mean everyone, the hub, ALL my friends, all my colleagues, all my friends/relatives back home. My expectations sky-rocketed and people around me were pushing it higher, every freakin' day. With such high expectations I will hate the movie.

I was completely bowled over. I mean EVERYONE around me was right. The movie simply rocked! I still can't believe that all the hype surrounding the movie (it was freakin' HUGE in this part of the world) was worth it! In fact it has surpassed the hype I would say.
:exactly:

[complicateur]

Victor Hugo's L'Homme qui rit features a tragic hero, Gwynplaine, who suffers untold sorrows on account of having his countenance scarred to look like he is permanently smiling. Bob Kane and Bill Finger, creators of Batman's arch-nemesis, supposedly used a picture of the actor Conrad Veidt playing Gwynplaine in a silent movie adaptation of the story, as visual inspiration for the Joker. And there have since been multiple interpretations of that vision on television and screen. But none capture the character's psychotic aura as well as "The Dark Knight". Heath Ledger's Joker walks the knife edge between hamming and unconvincing as only a seasoned (circus?) performer can.

While Ledger's is definitely the stand out performance, everyone else is just what the director ordered. Bale is perfect as the brooding Bruce Wayne and his caped crusader alter ego. He is ably assisted by the supremely talented Michael Caine and Morgan Freeman as Wayne's prescient butler Albert and Lucius Fox respectively. Fox and Wayne share a comfort similar to Q and Bond as evidenced by their repartee's. But in a situation reflective of the current american political scenario, Fox turns into Batman's conscience indicating that the comfort we perceive is founded on a high level of trust.

Gary Oldman plays the straightlaced Gordon brilliantly and Aaron Eckhart revels in the role of Gotham's new DA Harvey Dent before ending up collateral damage in the war between the city's masked man and make-up menace. Maggie Gyllenhall is convincing as the strong, independent Rachel Dawes that Bruce Wayne and the audience grew to love in Nolan's first instalment but is now seeing Harvey Dent. The love triangle between Dent, Wayne and Dawes is seen primarily through her and it is easy to empathize with the dilemma of a woman whose choice will indelibly alter the future of everything she truly loves.

"The Dark Knight" succesfully juggles multiple themes due to Christopher Nolan's deft handling of the script, penned by his brother Jonathan and himself, particularly the traditional literary dichotomy of the hero and the villain. This version of Batman and The Joker are turned on the head versions of classical interpretations. They are more two faces of the same sided coin, albiet one scarred beyond the recognition of humanity, than diametrical opposite. The literal interpretation and symbol exist within the movie in the form of Harvey Dent/Two-face and his father's lucky coin. As Gotham's citizens decide to do the right thing when faced with a Morton's fork in the road, their beacon of hope decides to malfunction. Personally, it's hard to blame him, because never before has The Joker made wanting to be bad, feel so good.

This Joker appeals to the worst in you in the best possible way, by being a villain for the sake of villainy. He concocts a different genesis for his scars depending on the audience and circumstances. A special tip of the hat to both the writers and the performer because no big screen Batman has had a more worthy adversary. Ledger brings to the character a certain manic energy, chanelled into a macabre sense of humor as he taunts his adversaries. The meticulous preparation that went into the role is apparent ( Ledger apparently studied ventriloquist dummies to cultivate a disembodied voice ). Practice obviously makes perfect because the raspy voice, the twang before the vowels and the griminess he exudes all add up to a palpable sense of dread in the audience. Ledger's protean talent will be sorely missed if future instalments are planned.

[VENKIRAJA]

When is the original 1080p version releasing? What is the final figures box office? TV-la Premier eppO?

[thilak4life]

Good 'un there Complicateur.

My favorite dialogues of the Joker are:

"You'll see, I'll show you, that when the chips are down, these uh... civilized people, they'll eat each other. You see, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve"


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Thanks to Nolan, Joker's words "This town deserves a better class of criminal " are in deed true for Batman franchise.

What does Joker symbolize? His disfigurement or his condition is not defined by Nolan, and this "undefined" nemesis rises out of nowhere, like a Joker in deck of cards. He isn't the best dressed Hannibal lectur whose knowledge goes as far as Marcus Aurelius, or an organized sociopath like Alex Delarge, with orderly tastes such as Beethoven. But Joker is a complicated life, whose philosophy of life in many ways outscales every typical, and atypical comic character. He sees Batman an outlet for experiment, and a toy for his very existence, "I don't want to kill you! What would I do without you? Go back to ripping off mob dealers? No, no, you... you complete me. " I'm reminded of Pearce in Memento and his "chase", an outlet for indulgence.

"Chaos" seems all too reasonable for his existence. Gotham is an amusement park. "You didn't think I'd risk the battle for Gotham's soul in a fistfight with you?"

[crajkumar_be]

naan innum pakkala :( :curse:

[thilak4life]

naan innum pakkala :( :curse:

:shock: Too late. :D

[VENKIRAJA]

Okay, what nominations will The Dark Knight have at the Oscars? Which ones will it win? (Forget that Oscars are a mere joke often)

Only TCCOBB left I think. Body of Lies epdi? Terminator eppO release? Does Burn after reading stand a better chance than TDK to win any Oscar?

[ajithfederer]

I yaam 3 times IMAX , yaa :P

naan innum pakkala :( :curse:

[ajithfederer]

Thambi Heath ledger(Late) wins the Golden Globe award for Best supporting Actor in a Motion Picture. Nolan receives the award.

:clap:

[directhit]

:bow: :bow: :bow:
:clap: :clap: :clap:

[Nerd]

Standing ovation for Heath and that was a great speech by Nolan 8-)

[ajithfederer]

Yes an outstanding ovation.

Nolan was crisp in his speech.

Standing ovation for Heath and that was a great speech by Nolan 8-)

[ajithfederer]

For those who missed watching yesterday.
Quotes by Chris Nolan on Heath Ledger @ the Golden Globes yesterday (http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=d&as_mind=11&as_minm=1&as_maxd=12&as_maxm=1&qsid=HSngjVQqp4EODM&nolr=1)

"All of us who worked with Heath on 'The Dark Knight' accept this with an awful mixture of sadness but incredible pride," said director Christopher Nolan, who accepted the statue on behalf of Ledger. "After Heath passed on, you saw a hole...

"He will be eternally missed but he will never be forgotten."

"For any of us to enjoy his performance he will be eternally missed, but he'll never be forgotten,"

"Heath created something entirely original. It's stunning, it's captivating,"

[ajithfederer]

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwsf5rL48hs

Chris Nolan accepting the Golden Globe for Best Supporting Actor

[VENKIRAJA]

http://venkiraja.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/the-joker-the-unstoppable-force/

EthO nammAla mudinjathu... nAnsans Golden Globes...Nolans' ku oru avArdAchum thandhirukaNum :x

[ajithfederer]

Heath Ledger has been Nominated for best supporting actor. :clap: :D

I am disappointed that Dark Knight and Nolan didn't receive their share of nominations.

[Nerd]

Dark knight and Nolan are snubbed again.. Naaaansansss :hammer:

[thilak4life]

Idiots! :banghead:

[kannannn]

Haven't watched any of the nominations. AnA, Dark Knight'kku Oscar ellam over'a theriyala.. (not that they have lofty standards..)

[ajithfederer]

I seriously thought that Nolan would receive a nomination for directing and screenplay writing. I also expected a best film nomination for Dark Knight.

Onnu kooda kedaikaleeyae :oops:

[thilak4life]

Haven't watched any of the nominations. AnA, Dark Knight'kku Oscar ellam over'a theriyala.. (not that they have lofty standards..)

I don't get the definition of "best picture". Too many reservations. But from what I perceive, TDK is one of the best last year from Hollywood. Better than Slumdog, and TCCOBB.

On these lines, liked the fact an animation like "Waltz with Bashir" is nominated in Foreign films category. :thumbsup: But I expected "Let the right one in" :lol: (a relationship between 14 year old boy and a vampire, a love tale without contriving for cheap thrills and a coming of age story too. Not necessarily a horror )

[kannannn]

On these lines, liked the fact an animation like "Waltz with Bashir" is nominated in Foreign films category. :thumbsup: But I expected "Let the right one in" :lol: (a relationship between 14 year old boy and a vampire, a love tale without contriving for cheap thrills and a coming of age story too. Not necessarily a horror )
Thanks for the recommendation :D. Will try to watch soon (Innum pona varusha padangale paarkalangarathu vera vishayam..:sigh2: )

[complicateur]

Yes! TDK was stiffed because of its big summer release. That film should be inevery writing/directing category.

[ajithfederer]

PR, engae pa :lol:

[P_R]

PR, engae pa :lol:

Naansens maadhiri paNNirukkAinga

I have decided to hate all other films up for nomination before seeing them. I already have a string prejudice against Slumdog.

Have only seen Benjamin Button - but with all due to respect to Fincher - Nolan just trampled him with the better film and performances.

Writing nomination for Button and not TDK. kErattarization-la moththamA goal pOttadhu Nolan, suththamA goal vittadhu Fincher. What nonsense.

With the way the guys are treating a film like this I think they wouldn't have bothered giving Ledger the nod if he had made the mortal mistake of continuing to live.

Naan indha varusham Oscar-ai purakkaNikkiREn ...... of course 2 category thavira.

[ajithfederer]

Prabhu, I am totally with you. Nalla velai ledgerkkaavadhu koduthu tholaichaanugalae adhuvaraikkum santhosham.

This is the only superhero movie that can be taken seriously.

Oscars down/down. :curse:

[complicateur]

Saniyan pudichchavainga- Ron Howard-a ellAm nominate paNNittu Nolan-a vittutAinga!

[kannannn]

Writing nomination for Button and not TDK. kErattarization-la moththamA goal pOttadhu Nolan, suththamA goal vittadhu Fincher. What nonsense.
Having nothing to compare TDK to, my arguments are just based on the movie itself. The redeeming features of the movie as I see it are, Ledger's characterisation, the dialogues and the dark mood the movie manages to maintain throughout. Outside that, the movie is pure masala - a well taken one at that. Writing? Come on guys.. For the most part the melodrama was mawkish. Not to mention the obvious attempts to introduce Republican ideals :banghead: (not that I am against movies with political hues. Only that a little subtlety would have given it more credit). Nolan has done better movies. Nominating TDK would have been a blemish on his record.

[P_R]

Of course it was Masala-ish. That is exactly what was likeable about it.

The troubled batman grappling with the monster ahead of the curve, subtexts for your picking.It could only be as subtle. Ledger's characterization is not standalone, it turns and changes every single character on its way and it bloody turned the superhero movie on its head.

I for one liked it better than the Prestiege.

And this isn't the first time. Last time they didn't nominate Batman Begins and nominated "Good Night and Good Luck". Utter liberal drivel !

[thilak4life]

Not to mention the obvious attempts to introduce Republican ideals :banghead: (not that I am against movies with political hues. Only that a little subtlety would have given it more credit). Nolan has done better movies. Nominating TDK would have been a blemish on his record.

Interesting Kannannn. Although the boot fits (in retrospect), I'd be very surprised if Nolan brothers were (politically) intentional.

[VENKIRAJA]

No kammants. Zimblee waste. And, I still can't believe that some hubbers didn't like TDK :|

[VENKIRAJA]

PR, engae pa :lol:

Naansens maadhiri paNNirukkAinga

Naan indha varusham Oscar-ai purakkaNikkiREn ...... of course 2 category thavira.

idhayE thAn intha golden globe pasangaLum paNNANunga. pachela pudunginga... dai..
"AmA intha avArdai ellAm ennabA paNRathu?"
"uLLa vAngi veLiya vithuRa vEndiyathu thAn!"

[P_R]

Joker: Does it depress you commissioner to know how alone you really are...do you feel responsible for Harvet Dent's predicament......

Gordon: Where is he ?

J: What is the time

G: What difference does it make ?

J: Well, depending on the time he could be in one spot or several


Batman: You are garbage who kills for money'
J: Don't talk like one of them....you are not even if you'd like to be


Their morals....their code.....is a bad joke...dropped at the first sign of trouble

[ajithfederer]

When the chips are down these civilised people they will eat each other.

[kannannn]

If it is any consolation..
Was listening to a radio interview with a movie company publicist. Apparently, the studios made the mistake of releasing Dark Knight much before the Oscar season, thereby squandering away the chances. For maximum hype and influence, movies that stand a chance are almost always released towards the awards - and it has always been the case. Apparently, the last movie to beat the trend was 'Crash' and 'Silence of the Lambs' before that.

I still maintain my stand though :D

[crajkumar_be]

Writing nomination for Button and not TDK. kErattarization-la moththamA goal pOttadhu Nolan, suththamA goal vittadhu Fincher. What nonsense.
Having nothing to compare TDK to, my arguments are just based on the movie itself. The redeeming features of the movie as I see it are, Ledger's characterisation, the dialogues and the dark mood the movie manages to maintain throughout. Outside that, the movie is pure masala - a well taken one at that. Writing? Come on guys.. For the most part the melodrama was mawkish. Not to mention the obvious attempts to introduce Republican ideals :banghead: (not that I am against movies with political hues. Only that a little subtlety would have given it more credit). Nolan has done better movies. Nominating TDK would have been a blemish on his record.
Agree with every word. I'm even tempted to wonder if this is (one of the) the most overrated movie(s) of all time! Oru 'clever' masala ku ivvalavu pecha? :roll:

Anga ennada na, SDM-ku ellam Oscar nominations.... kodumai!

[thilak4life]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isfhOPk5bUw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QFWBFIEuig

Brilliant!

[ajithfederer]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090218/ap_en_ot/oscars_if_ledger_wins

And the Oscar goes to Matilda if Ledger wins
BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. – If Heath Ledger is named best supporting actor at Sunday's Academy Awards ceremony, his daughter, 3-year-old Matilda Rose Ledger, will become the owner of the Oscar statuette.

But it won't really be hers until her 18th birthday on Oct. 28, 2023 — and even then, only if she signs a contract.

Matilda, daughter of the late Ledger and actress Michelle Williams, has been designated by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences as the eventual owner of her father's Oscar, should he win for his portrayal of the Joker in "The Dark Knight."

The actor died of an accidental overdose of prescription drugs last year at the age of 28.

But Ledger's nomination, and his daughter's young age, led to one of the trickiest situations the academy has dealt with in its eight decades of awarding posthumous Oscars.

"It's complicated, because there are two different questions that have to be answered," says Bruce Davis, executive director of the academy. "First, we have to decide who gets the job of accepting the award onstage on the night of the ceremony. And then there's the question of the eventual disposition of the posthumous statuette, which may not stay with the person who accepts it."

In Ledger's case, says Davis, the second question was the hardest to answer.

Academy tradition calls for a posthumous statuette to go to the spouse, or, if there is no living spouse, to the oldest child. Ledger wasn't married, and Matilda is his only child.

Yet because she is only 3, Matilda is legally unable to sign the winner's agreement — a contract required of all nominees that says the recipient will not resell his or her Oscar without first offering it back to the academy for $1. The agreement is the academy's way of limiting what might otherwise be a lively secondary market in Oscars.

"From our point of view, somebody has to sign the winner's agreement, and a 3-year-old can't do that," says Davis. "Nor can a parent sign any kind of legal document that obligates a child to do something once they turn 18. I didn't know that before we looked into it, but it's a good law."

After conversations with Williams and with Ledger's family in Australia, the academy hit on a solution: "In the event that Heath Ledger should be selected as the supporting actor recipient, the statuette will be held in trust for his daughter by her mother, Michelle Williams, until Matilda reaches the age of 18," says Davis. "At that point, she may execute what we call an heir's agreement and keep the statuette forever — or, if she chooses not to do that, it will return to us."

In other words, the Oscar statuette can spend the next 15 years with Matilda, but her mother, who has signed the academy's agreement, will be the legal custodian. When Matilda is old enough, she can claim ownership by signing the agreement. If she does so, she'll become the official owner and will be legally bound not to sell her Oscar; if she opts not to sign, the statuette will revert to the academy without any payment.

As for who would accept the award, that — like many other aspects of the ceremony — is a matter that show producers Laurence Mark and Bill Condon are keeping under wraps. Davis will only say that tradition calls for a posthumous Oscar to be accepted either by a close relative or "an artist who was close to the nominee, and who can speak credibly for him or her." (The last posthumous Oscar went to cinematographer Conrad L. Hall in 2002, and was accepted by Hall's son.)

"We always had a very good idea of what we should do and who was going to accept," says Gil Cates, who produced 14 Oscar shows that included nine posthumous nominations and three wins. "You need to line up someone who's respectable to avoid any embarrassing or difficult moments, and for me it was always easy to agree with the academy on a legitimate person."

The decision was also simple for this year's other posthumous nominees, Sydney Pollack and Anthony Minghella, producers of best-picture nominee "The Reader." If the movie wins the top prize, the other nominated producers, Donna Gigliotti and Redmond Morris, will also accept on behalf of Pollack and Minghella, and the statuettes will then be given to their widows.

Faced with the prospect of a minor potentially taking possession of Ledger's Oscar, the academy has in recent days revisited the way it handled underage winners such as Tatum O'Neal, who was 10 when she won best supporting actress for 1973's "Paper Moon," and Anna Paquin, who in 1994 won the best supporting actress award for "The Piano" at age 11.

"What we've tended to do is have them sign anyway, and then get back to them after they turn 18 and ask them to re-execute the agreement," Davis says. "I would love to tell you that that has happened in every single case, but your call prompted a little research. And in a couple of cases, we've never completed the circle."

In other words, there may be some Oscars out there not under academy control?

"I don't expect any trouble," says Davis with a laugh, "but, in fact, yes."

:clap:
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[ajithfederer]

1 Billion $ (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=darkknight.htm) :notworthy:

[ajithfederer]

Heath Ledger :clap: :clap:

[directhit]

:bow: :bow:

[Wibha]

:) :thumbsup:

[littlemaster1982]

Heath Ledger :notworthy: :notworthy: :clap:

[VENKIRAJA]

Yaay Yaay!
Heath Ledger naamam vaazhga! :clap: :notworthy:

[complicateur]

Ledger gets his!

[P_R]

Heath Ledger :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Feddy, marappOm mannippOm.

[P_R]

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:victory:

[ajithfederer]

:notworthy:


Heath Ledger :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Feddy, marappOm mannippOm.

[VENKIRAJA]

Writing nomination for Button and not TDK. kErattarization-la moththamA goal pOttadhu Nolan, suththamA goal vittadhu Fincher. What nonsense.
Having nothing to compare TDK to, my arguments are just based on the movie itself. The redeeming features of the movie as I see it are, Ledger's characterisation, the dialogues and the dark mood the movie manages to maintain throughout. Outside that, the movie is pure masala - a well taken one at that. Writing? Come on guys.. For the most part the melodrama was mawkish. Not to mention the obvious attempts to introduce Republican ideals :banghead: (not that I am against movies with political hues. Only that a little subtlety would have given it more credit). Nolan has done better movies. Nominating TDK would have been a blemish on his record.
Agree with every word. I'm even tempted to wonder if this is (one of the) the most overrated movie(s) of all time! Oru 'clever' masala ku ivvalavu pecha? :roll:

Anga ennada na, SDM-ku ellam Oscar nominations.... kodumai!

Dare I say the cleverest masala? (Of course, with the cleverest villain)

[littlemaster1982]

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:victory:

What a cold stare :notworthy:

[VENKIRAJA]

http://bitcast-a.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/images/zoolander-dark-knight.gif

:lol:

[bingleguy]

Heath deserves the honor for his excellent delivery for the Dark Knight !

[ajithfederer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1VPRjd-x1g&fmt=6

The late Heath Ledger wins the 81st Annual Academy Award for Outstanding Supporting actor, for his role as The Joker in "The Dark Knight".

Heath's family, Sally,Kate and Kim accept the award on Heath's behalf and talk about the passion he had in playing this role, and dedicate the award to his daughter Metilda.

[P_R]

Alfred: Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn
-----------------------------------

Bruce Wayne: The bandit in Burma, did you catch him?
Alfred : Yes.
BW: How?
Alfred: We burned the forest down

Chris Nolan :clap:

naanum michcha padaththule appidi ellAm appidi enna irukkunnu paakkaththaanE pOrEn. :twisted:

Just curious, what republican ideals ?

[complicateur]

Just curious, what republican ideals ?
The hero using means to justify his end. The celphone tapping similarities with the patriot act.
Harvey Dent: "You either die trying or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain".
All quite Cheney-esque. In spite of being a vociferous opposer, I still think the movie got stiffed by not even being nominated.
PR: Watch Doubt, In Bruges and The Wrestler. The 3 films that I didnt mind seeing in the nomination list over TDK.

[P_R]

Just curious, what republican ideals ?
The hero using means to justify his end. The celphone tapping similarities with the patriot act.
Harvey Dent: "You either die trying or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain".
All quite Cheney-esque.

Ah ! I missed this subtext.
Now the Joker-Batman parallel, and things like Gordon's last line (we'll hunt him because he can take it. Because he's not our hero) , which I liked even as it is, has just been elevated to a new level altogether.


PR: Watch Doubt, In Bruges and The Wrestler. The 3 films that I didnt mind seeing in the nomination list over TDK. And Revolutionary Road too. EdhuvumE innum paakkalai :-(

[complicateur]

See my mApLai talends!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8Z3PlZTSdI)

[littlemaster1982]

:lol: I'm guessing it's the new trailer of Inception. I posted it yesterday in "Coming Soon" thread. The music is :notworthy:

[complicateur]

As usual - I yam late aapisar. Its been a while since I've been this excited about a film. Some people are already alleging similarity to Paprika (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0851578/plotsummary). As Korean/anime esparts I expect Venki or LM to kanfermdunga...

[Appu s]

compli, this one is old trailer, new trailer posted in Coming soon thread. :)

[littlemaster1982]

Compli,

Me not Anime expert :oops: Let's wait for Venki :)

[kid-glove]

Asked my 13 year old thambi who owns about 200 Gb of Animes, who would swore it before anything. He tells me Paprika is a great old-fashioned (to him that is :shock:) concept and the style of Anime is what appealed to him. The role of "Dream" is the key. Double-crossing and scheming are there (no wonder, they are Nolan trademarks).

[VENKIRAJA]

Compli,

Me not Anime expert :oops: Let's wait for Venki :)

ennaya vechu kaamedy keemedy pannalaye :lol2: kannann is quite a flaasafer i think..

[ajithfederer]

High time to start a thread for this genius. Nolarr the single best director cum writer available in Hollywood now.

Welcome to his new thread (http://www.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=13769&highlight=).

[Nerd]

Nolarr the single best director cum writer available in Hollywood now.

ada.. appO darandino enna mokka payyanaa? :twisted:

[ajithfederer]

Illai avar innum matha genres-la ellam innum varaleeng. Nolar konjam advancednnu solla vandhen :mrgreen:.