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thineshan54321
2nd February 2008, 02:49 AM
Hey guys, I've been working on some instrumentals of rahman's tracks. I have overlaid them with the original song. However, the focus is obviously the instrumental so I have reduced the volume of the original soundtrack and its there just for a support and tempo maintenance. I didnt know which thread to post it in, so I started a new one.

Here is my first recording:
Munbe Vaa: http://www.sendspace.com/file/irbezx (13 mb) [edited]

The quality is very high. I have ensured that there is no noise or anything like that. It is directly from a synthesizer to a software, so no ambience. let me know how i can improve etc. I'll post sahana saral next. Tell me if you guys have requests. It takes me an hour to do a song without mistakes et al, so I cant make too many. Ill try one song/week.

Yathu
3rd February 2008, 05:03 AM
wow thats a big file! i attempted to download it...but my wireless connection is playing up! could you possibly make an 320/192 mp3 version of it? :D

thineshan54321
3rd February 2008, 05:21 AM
wow thats a big file! i attempted to download it...but my wireless connection is playing up! could you possibly make an 320/192 mp3 version of it? :D

sure i kinda guessed, ppl gave up on it due to the size. I will repost an mp3 320 kbps. it will be 10 mb.

thineshan54321
3rd February 2008, 05:48 AM
there u go: http://www.sendspace.com/file/irbezx (Munbe Vaa Instrumental)

hope u guys like it. let me know how i can improve.

littlemaster1982
3rd February 2008, 08:32 AM
Good work Thineshan :thumbsup: You could also try some audio softwares which would remove the voice from the original track (results are not always perfect). Then you can mix the instrumental track with that one.

thineshan54321
3rd February 2008, 09:26 AM
Good work Thineshan :thumbsup: You could also try some audio softwares which would remove the voice from the original track (results are not always perfect). Then you can mix the instrumental track with that one.

yep i tried to do that, but rahman does a lot of effects on teh voice like reverb etc. and its really very hard to remove without distorting the main BG. thats why i kept it like this. but if i do find a good voice remover, i will surely do that. thx, i also have sahana and ellapuzaghum if u guys want.

thineshan54321
3rd February 2008, 10:48 PM
Good work Thineshan :thumbsup: You could also try some audio softwares which would remove the voice from the original track (results are not always perfect). Then you can mix the instrumental track with that one.

hey littlemaster, i listened to ur advice and thanks to Vithur from yfg, I was able to find a professional software to remove the vocals. and the result was terrific. it removed just the vocals leaving 95% of the BG intact. so here it is. I have uploaded Munbe Vaa and Ellapugazhum . the latter turned out really well. You might need to increase ur speaker volume a bit more than normal because I intentionally reduced the master volume to avoid distortions.

Munbe Vaa Instrumental: http://www.sendspace.com/file/llf2of
Ellapugazhum Instrumental: http://www.sendspace.com/file/w83svj

Dragun
3rd February 2008, 11:24 PM
All vocal removers basically work the same way. They remove whatever is mixed at exactly the same level in the left and right channels. Depending on how the song was mixed it may remove the vocals, it may not remove the vocals, it may remove other sounds.

If you have a program like Audacity or Adobe Audition, all you need to do is invert one channel (doesn't matter which) and mix the left and right channels to mono to cancel out what is the same in both channels.

thineshan54321
4th February 2008, 01:13 AM
All vocal removers basically work the same way. They remove whatever is mixed at exactly the same level in the left and right channels. Depending on how the song was mixed it may remove the vocals, it may not remove the vocals, it may remove other sounds.

If you have a program like Audacity or Adobe Audition, all you need to do is invert one channel (doesn't matter which) and mix the left and right channels to mono to cancel out what is the same in both channels.

yep i have done that. the uploaded tracks are the BG plus the instrumental.

littlemaster1982
4th February 2008, 10:12 AM
Thineshan, which software did you use for removing vocals? All the vocal removers I tried worked in the same way as Dragun told, so the results were not very good.

Yathu
5th February 2008, 04:57 AM
Good attempt Thineshan! :D

....but u can still hear vocals....i guess they're hard to completely remove? Did u play the vocal instrumental yourself on a keyboard?

thineshan54321
5th February 2008, 06:08 AM
Good attempt Thineshan! :D

....but u can still hear vocals....i guess they're hard to completely remove? Did u play the vocal instrumental yourself on a keyboard?

ya its very hard to completely remove it. and yes

thineshan54321
5th February 2008, 06:10 AM
Here is the next one, since JA craze is very high, thot it would be the best time to release an instrumental of a very complex track, Inlamhoke. I realized its true beauty when I recorded the notes, wow madusree's rendition and Sonu's whisper is beyond this world. I have odne both in the instrumental along with other rendition, however I kept the chorus since its not lyrics but rather jathis and also because u cant remove them using VR.

Inlamhoke Instrumental: http://www.sendspace.com/file/zfr8jp

Yathu
6th February 2008, 01:50 AM
Good attempt Thineshan! :D

....but u can still hear vocals....i guess they're hard to completely remove? Did u play the vocal instrumental yourself on a keyboard?

ya its very hard to completely remove it. and yes

Ow cool so your "musically trained"! :D So you work out the notes and key just by ear? Coolio!

thineshan54321
6th February 2008, 02:43 AM
Good attempt Thineshan! :D

....but u can still hear vocals....i guess they're hard to completely remove? Did u play the vocal instrumental yourself on a keyboard?

ya its very hard to completely remove it. and yes

Ow cool so your "musically trained"! :D So you work out the notes and key just by ear? Coolio!

yep

sat_srini
18th February 2008, 03:26 AM
Check out this collection of violin pieces from ARR songs. Amazing!!!

http://www.esnips.com/doc/ef6ca3f4-a04d-4107-ad26-3605ca33f371/strinx

Thanks to rakesh from ARR orkut groups.

Yathu
18th February 2008, 03:52 AM
Check out this collection of violin pieces from ARR songs. Amazing!!!

http://www.esnips.com/doc/ef6ca3f4-a04d-4107-ad26-3605ca33f371/strinx

Thanks to rakesh from ARR orkut groups.

Beautiful! I just had this playing in the background....very nice! Tanks sat_srini!

I didnt recognise a few though! :oops:

thineshan54321
18th February 2008, 04:01 AM
does anyone have ah aah original CD? i bought mine from india but had to give it to my uncle in england on my way here. i just need mayilirage in wav format. can someone rip it for me plz?

sat_srini
18th February 2008, 04:06 AM
Heres more:

http://www.esnips.com/playlist/f28188d7-af08-4ccf-aba0-d52ed6e64aa8

This is really addicting!!!

thineshan54321
6th March 2008, 06:22 AM
Hey guys, here is Mayilirage instrumental. My sincere thanks to Dinesh for providing me with mayilirage.wav for use in this instrumental. i have used ARRs recent favourite instrument. enjoy and plz plz leave ur comments:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/x6gu0v Mayilirage [Accordian]

hope i've improved from my previous instrumentals:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/0jdksw Munbe Vaa [Steel Guitar]
http://www.sendspace.com/file/2b0fkd Elaa pugazhum [Steel Guitar]
http://www.sendspace.com/file/jybmpu Inlamhoke [Sitar]

**i will definitely redo munbe vaa since the quality is not at all satisfying. there is a lag in the recording due to latency problems.

Yathu
8th March 2008, 04:02 AM
Hey Thinesh, just listened to your Mayil Iragae intrumental, and i'm pretty impressed. You've removed the vocals completely this time! It sounds much more professional.

My only suggestion would be to lower the volume of the accordian..as it seems a little loud against the music (just a little!).

Also have you tried just playing these songs on the piano/keyboard with chords? Maybe you can post a video on YouTube one day? lol :D

thineshan54321
8th March 2008, 10:48 AM
Hey Thinesh, just listened to your Mayil Iragae intrumental, and i'm pretty impressed. You've removed the vocals completely this time! It sounds much more professional.

My only suggestion would be to lower the volume of the accordian..as it seems a little loud against the music (just a little!).

Also have you tried just playing these songs on the piano/keyboard with chords? Maybe you can post a video on YouTube one day? lol :D

hey thanks for the tips. the main reason why i chose this method is because its different. there are many people who play chords and melody, i just wanted to try something different by using vocal removing method and replacing it with an instrument (like muzhumathi). btw, i am not a very good piano player, but i am a good keyboard player. there is a lot of difference. piano is for performance where you have a live audience and you should know how to play chords, melody whatever, all at the same time. but keyboard is different. its for recording, composing purposes. thats another reason why i chose this method over chord/melody. but i will do give it a try. thx

and, i will pay attention to the volume level next time. i am currently reworking munbe vaa since my earlier one wasn't that good. thx again for taking the time to download/listen.

do you guys have ne favourites that you would like to hear as instrumental? ill be glad to do it

Yathu
9th March 2008, 03:38 AM
So you're a budding composer? :D

Erm....as for requests you could try Nathiye from Rhythm, but I don't know is this one is tricky as there's some vocal layering.

thineshan54321
9th March 2008, 08:59 AM
So you're a budding composer? :D

Erm....as for requests you could try Nathiye from Rhythm, but I don't know is this one is tricky as there's some vocal layering.


hmm there will be a lot of left over voices since the voice is processed (reverb). ill give it a shot. i dont have the original CD for that also, i lost it on my way to the states. i cant see if the voice can be removed or not without a .wav (mp3 is compressed so voice removers have a hard time)

thineshan54321
12th May 2009, 06:40 AM
Hey guys, first of all I am very glad to revive this thread. I first created it to share my munbe vaa instrumental and now i am reviving it to share munbe vaa instrumental again. This time, the entire music was recreated at TK Productions. I am very glad to present you this. I did this for my keyboard students for a show so they can play like a karoeke kinda thing. I did not spend time on this since I had to complete this within 6 hours before the show so forgive me as obviously it is impossible to recreate the golden touch of the maestro. Anyway, here it is. Like always I am posting the wave along with an mp3 version so if u have ARR ears you have a choice for that too lol. enjoy!

MP3 (320): http://www.sendspace.com/file/gndc6u
Wave: http://www.sendspace.com/file/ywqp1p

*Also for those who have facebook, search for "TK Productions" to listen to some original attempts including this song. There is also a song that I made for my mom on mother's day. Check it out. Leave comments there if possible for my original works.

karty
15th May 2009, 11:39 PM
hi thineshan ,

check you pm ;)

As an ARR fan , i've composed new melodies i want to share with this forum, i posted my first ever composition some times ago (taayaga ninaivey song ), now i've tried about 25 different melodies i want to share with you in order that u can give me any particular opinions or comments.

see you soon, karty