COPYING - IN TAMIL FILM HISTORY

[kingvj]

"En chella peru apple" from Pokkiri... end of charanam is same tune as "Anubavam pudhumai" (Kadhalikka neramillai) 'laa laa laa' bit.

[kingvj]

Shockingly blatant lift by GV Prakash Kumar in Vellithirai - for a young, talented and upcoming composer, idhu thevaye illai. Wonder what made him do it!
Audio clips at http://www.itwofs.com/ as usual.

Yedho Karthik maadhiri aalunga irukardhaala ivanga ee adichaan copy theriya varudhu.. illaatti beethoven, thyagarajar range-ku pogazhndhu thalli irukka maattom? (already mozart compare panniyaachu... so andha vambukku naan pogalai saami..!! :D )

[vigneshram]

Shockingly blatant lift by GV Prakash Kumar in Vellithirai - for a young, talented and upcoming composer, idhu thevaye illai. Wonder what made him do it!
Audio clips at http://www.itwofs.com/ as usual.


:omg: Ada paavi GVP !!!!

[SoftSword]

shameful...
indha family'la irundhu ipdi orutthan... :evil:

[Sanjeevi]

Oru sumarana patta copy adikanuma enna :lol:

GVP should learn from Deva and Modern Deva (HJ)

[Yathu]

Shockingly blatant lift by GV Prakash Kumar in Vellithirai - for a young, talented and upcoming composer, idhu thevaye illai. Wonder what made him do it!
Audio clips at http://www.itwofs.com/ as usual.

Awww GVP why did you go and do that for? :shock: :(

[sureshmehcnit]

Copied or Inspired? Listen and decide it for yourself

http://backgroundscore.blogspot.com/2008/04/plagiarim-or-inspired.html

[natha1729]

isn't the exciting song Ella Pugazhum in Azhagiya Thamizh Magan more or less a more rhythmic copy of the same melody lines of the song " I Believe" by Cher with the same electronic sounds?

(I seriously hoped it was an ARR original, but apparently not)

Can anyone please recommend any such exciting songs in recent years, including other languages? I like Joshu Sridhar also, eg: Sariya Ithu Thavara is thrilling.

Thank you

[sat_srini]

Is this the song - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcL717h_vCs

If it is, then I don't see any similarities. :idontgetit: :idontgetit:

[SoftSword]

mr.nath...

i guess you kept on hearin the ellaa pugazhum song repeatedly...
and so whichever song you hear sounds like that...

matthapadi...
just ignorin this...

[kb]

did anyone hear sude sude from Bujjukaadu made in chennai..

yaarukumey theriyaatha beat.. lift pannirukaaru..

http://www.raaga.com/channels/telugu/movie/A0001293.html

[karthik_sa2]

Copied or Inspired? Listen and decide it for yourself

http://backgroundscore.blogspot.com/2008/04/plagiarim-or-inspired.html

i don find any similarities not even to the slightest extent

[thamizhvaanan]

I was listening to Ohio by Crosby & Co., the bass guitar pattern sounded familiar. I think the riff was used as base for "Agar Main kahoon" from Lakshya (Loy is a rock music enthusiast :) ) Can experts clarify? :)

Ohio by Crosby,STills, Nash & Young
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVi-DXOfnAM
(If you are not sure what I am referring to, listen to the section past 2:00 when the vocals fade and the riff becomes more prominent)

Agar main kahoon

http://ww.smashits.com/music/hindi-movie/play/songs/4366/Lakshya/38035/Agar-Main-Kahoon.html

TFM page'la idha post panna koodadho :roll:

[thumburu]

It is not that the ignominy of piracy has plagued MDs only after IR's era, but even yester year legends like MSV cannot be absolved of that malady. I rate the songs from "Karnan" among the top 5 best of MSV's long , illustrious career. Songs like "KangaL enge", "Maharajan ulagai " would live on for centuries to come. When I consider "Maharajan ulagai" as one the benchmark songs in "Karaharapriya " , imagine my shock and utter disappointment at my discovering it was almost a note to note copy from SVV's [ SVV is a classical music giant of an MD] "Anbinale uruvagum inba nilai" from a 1950's movie "Pasa valai" !!!

[app_engine]

Who is the MD of pAsavalai? Looks like MSV-TKR, which means this is a recycle and not a case of plagiarism. Are you sure it was SVV, thumburu?
(google gives different results, one even says G Ramanathan for pAsavalai)

[vijayr]

Paasavalai is by MSV-TKR. Read this interesting anecdote
http://www.dhool.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4174

Also from what I remember Maharajan ulagai's opening line is so much different from anbinaale undaagum. I am not even sure that this is a recycle.

[thumburu]

The radio programme said the MD was SVV . But this song clearly inspires "Maharajan ulagai" not just because of the scale

[vijayr]

So from "note-to-note" copy it has now become "inspiration" ? Interesting

[Madevan94]

Neer aadiduvom starting (first 30 sec) is rip from Edith piaf number ..

listen

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kFRuLFR91e4

[MrIndia]

akila akila from neruku ner..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEQXvsQJVnY



devaaaaaaaaaaa :oops:

[Scale]

Contd... (http://www.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=1391511&sid=1d2852b8353fd8380deae77975ba1aff#1391511)

The resemblances are very much obvious.

Listen to Nuovo Cinema Paradiso (Titoli) (http://www.moviegrooves.com/shop/cinemaparadisosoundtrack.htm) - Ennio Morricone
&
ARR's Desh ki mitti - 2 Instrumental (http://ww.smashits.com/music/hindi-film/songs/4817/bose-the-forgotten-hero.html)

[Shakthiprabha.]

Scale,

:shock: Glad to see u are still around in hub :thumbsup:

// end dign

[Scale]

/Dign

Thanks Shakthi akka for the recall and I really feel delighted. Hope it brings back me in high spirit.

Thanks again.

/End Dign

[dochu]

Scale,
ARR very cleverly patched that music to sound more 'Indian'.

I guess, if I know few things in music, with a good set of instruements and huge collection of others music, probably I can attempt to make one by myself. :-)

[SoftSword]

Scale,
ARR very cleverly patched that music to sound more 'Indian'.

I guess, if I know few things in music, with a good set of instruements and huge collection of others music, probably I can attempt to make one by myself. :-)

boy, hope you would attempt to do that unlike others who just speak....

[Yathu]

Contd... (http://www.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=1391511&sid=1d2852b8353fd8380deae77975ba1aff#1391511)

The resemblances are very much obvious.

Listen to Nuovo Cinema Paradiso (Titoli) (http://www.moviegrooves.com/shop/cinemaparadisosoundtrack.htm) - Ennio Morricone
&
ARR's Desh ki mitti - 2 Instrumental (http://ww.smashits.com/music/hindi-film/songs/4817/bose-the-forgotten-hero.html)

Personally I think this is just a case of similar notes being played in a similar style with similar instrumentation. Themes played on the piano/violin and other such classical instruments sound kind of similar anyway, regardless of the notes being played. Blatant lifting isn't ARRs style!

Scale, this is hardly worthy of mentioning in a thread titled "COPYING - IN TAMIL FILM INDUSTRY" for two reasons:

1. Maybe Ennio Morricone's piece was the inspiration for Desh Ki Mitti theme, but that would be all. It's hardly copying!

2. This piece of music is from the film Bose - The Forgotten Hero, a product of the Hindi Film Industry.


Scale,
ARR very cleverly patched that music to sound more 'Indian'.

I guess, if I know few things in music, with a good set of instruements and huge collection of others music, probably I can attempt to make one by myself. :-)

:roll:

Yup, it's that easy, we should all be doing it. :lol2:

[Scale]

[tscii:c0ef117342]dochu,

That’s presumptuousness and I am forced to discard it commendably. If you or anyone could do that level of likeness,accuracy its supreme talent and an endowment to music diligence . Why music knowledge, instruments, huge collections aim with a audio software Edith paif's opera prelude and post the outcome. Much awaited! Dont screw up!:wink:


Yathu don’t get too rigorous with the thread titles its just to keep these annotations intact. No composer is 100% original everyone has their own source of inspiration. Infact I am very happy to notice this similarity and much more curious to identify further. It was not a blatant lift but a gem of an imagination . Like you said these Piano notes been transformed to a soulful composition by ARR. He was into Czech Orchestra for BOSE TFH have certainly referred to some samples. No Sin! Ask Enni Morricone/Edith paif/any to compose a Tamil folk/carnatic song or for an IPL title-song in future they will do the same.

I am an ardent fan of ARR and still hold the honorary identity :D presuming Desh ki Mitti as a personal fav.
[/tscii:c0ef117342]

[interz]

"The person is a Loser" from the movie Yaredi Nee Mohini seems to be very inspired from the song "Lemon Tree" (Fools Garden)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCDIt50hRDs.

[dochu]

I thought this thread was discussing "inspirations", "resemblances", "blatant copying (oops!! blatant devaing)" etc.

I can see that I am being subtly challenged to attempt something in which I have no clue and then comment on musicians? If that is the case, then nobody can talk about anything else than what they know. is that possible?

Nowadays it is getting quite easy to identify these things than in MSV days.

To me and other person who thought of resemblances, felt it subjectively. And I guess nobody is denying that. Whether Ennio got it from ARR or ARR got it from Ennio doesn't matter - these guys have to spend a lot of time listening!!! wow!

[Scale]

dochu,

you might be interested, 3 versions from a single inspiration

www.itwofs.com

Listen to Thannannam | Poottukkal | Thiyyani | My favorite things

[selvakumar]

Listening to Yanni's Adagio in C Minor. The bit in 1:35 to 1:55 slightly resembles 'Anjaathey" theme music. Music pathi therintha nanbargal uruthi seyyalam ithai.

[selvakumar]

Listening to Yanni's Adagio in C Minor. The bit in 1:35 to 1:55 slightly resembles 'Anjaathey" theme music. Music pathi therintha nanbargal uruthi seyyalam ithai.
And the bit 1:00 to :15 reminds me 7G theme :shock:

[SoftSword]

wait... i am not speaking about a copy here...
its kind of a resemblance...

did anyone feel that the mukundha mukundha songs sounds similar to "vanna poongaavai pol endhan" song from jodi... the song which appeared only in the casette and not in the movie....

everytime i hear mukundha... i start singing this jodi song inbetween... maybe its cos of the singer... and arrangements...

please give a thought and let me know... :)

[Sanjeevi]

wait... i am not speaking about a copy here...
its kind of a resemblance...

did anyone feel that the mukundha mukundha songs sounds similar to "vanna poongaavai pol endhan" song from jodi... the song which appeared only in the casette and not in the movie....

everytime i hear mukundha... i start singing this jodi song inbetween... maybe its cos of the singer... and arrangements...

please give a thought and let me know... :)

Athey maathiri Mukundha song enakku Chanakya Chanakya song automatica varuthu

[SoftSword]

oh is it... let me check...
and you for once, listen to the vanna poongavai song... and then listen to the mukundha song... :)

[thineshan54321]

all in all, the entire album is copied!!! p.s. HR is famous for his remixes...

[baba88]

I just found out that YSR has just a loop for BGM from Yaaradi Nee Mohini. You know the scenes where this 15 years old girl follows Danush there is always a special kind a hindi music. It's actually a loop available for download.

[srinz]

Here is a flick by Raaja.. for aboorva sagodargal.

Check out 1 min 54 secs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gt3grMaHZI&feature=related

[SoftSword]

Here is a flick by Raaja.. for aboorva sagodargal.

Check out 1 min 54 secs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gt3grMaHZI&feature=related

inspiration.

[Scale]

For all those who are unaware, it seams IR himself said in an interview the tune 'puthu maapilaikku' itself <borrowed> from MSV's Naan paarthathiley ..... aval oruthiyaithaan......

[kutti_anand]

wait... i am not speaking about a copy here...
its kind of a resemblance...

did anyone feel that the mukundha mukundha songs sounds similar to "vanna poongaavai pol endhan" song from jodi... the song which appeared only in the casette and not in the movie....

everytime i hear mukundha... i start singing this jodi song inbetween... maybe its cos of the singer... and arrangements...

please give a thought and let me know... :)

The opening of the mukundha song has the music(i think its nadhaswaram) similar to some other song.... i think its from Anandham movie.... not sure though....

[baba88]

I think I don't need further explanations. Just take a look.

1. http://youtube.com/watch?v=IFPSRkZcnvw
- http://youtube.com/watch?v=R9ecNhLoBEo


2. http://youtube.com/watch?v=9qE0GRjKi-w
- http://youtube.com/watch?v=kngx0EAEqZ8

[SoftSword]

I think I don't need further explanations. Just take a look.

1. http://youtube.com/watch?v=IFPSRkZcnvw
- http://youtube.com/watch?v=R9ecNhLoBEo


2. http://youtube.com/watch?v=9qE0GRjKi-w
- http://youtube.com/watch?v=kngx0EAEqZ8

the second one was known already...
the first one.. who is the md of thimiru...?
it doesn sound like a tune copy but...

[interz]

In the song from thimuru, Yuvan Shankaraja only used, that beat. I wouldnt call it copying.

Even Rahuman use this technique. Nothing strange about this.

[Sanjeevi]

hahahah

For ARR fans,
Yuvan pannina athukku peru copy
ARR pannina athukku peru inspiration

Repeat the above by interchanging the words ARR, Yuvan

[MADDY]

In the song from thimuru, Yuvan Shankaraja only used, that beat. I wouldnt call it copying.

Even Rahuman use this technique. Nothing strange about this.

ok, i think usage of loops is not at all a prob for ARR fans bcos we understand it very well.....but how about similar arrangements, similar preludes, similar lyrics :) , if u listen to the "push it hard" original , u wud understand wat i mean :D

[villan007]

For ARR fans,
Yuvan pannina athukku peru copy
ARR pannina athukku peru inspiration


naaa...rap lyrics mothakondu copy adichadhu yaarungnaa...

[baba88]

3. http://www.imeem.com/premitha/music/rgmMQTkS/poga_poga/
- www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SyzaLV5HWQ

[drashkum]

harris jeyaraj seems to have copied all his latest hit tunes shamelessly from english albums

just listen to tamil songs and the original songs it was copied from

1.)orumugamo from bheema- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10RxzTfYCGc

it was lifted from- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_QGyLqQ2CI

2) june pona from unnale unnale- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgaAjVUssSs

the origional tune - http://youtube.com/watch?v=C_sh4ZyGznU

3) maddy maddy minnale - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQdB2DAvswo

lifted from - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SOJxNOP37I&feature=related

4) karu karu vizhigalal from pkm- http://www.broadcastyoutube.com/watch?v=yGqmWu9tRf8&feature=related

origional here- http://www.broadcastyoutube.com/watch?v=_f99QsAMeng&feature=related
5.) this is the latest one

dham dhoom pudhu pudhu- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2FjEYrEOoo

origional - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFzyYYZsxGc&feature=related

shame on you harris . do u ever know to compose your own hit tune

[dinesh2002]

i think everyone is aware of the lifts u mention..... and yes, the latest being from the las ketchup song..... im not sure wat made him lift that song, as i doubt anyone wouldnt know that song, its utterly popular EVERYWHERE....

he is daring i must say..... :)

[SoftSword]

In the song from thimuru, Yuvan Shankaraja only used, that beat. I wouldnt call it copying.

Even Rahuman use this technique. Nothing strange about this.


hahahah

For ARR fans,
Yuvan pannina athukku peru copy
ARR pannina athukku peru inspiration

Repeat the above by interchanging the words ARR, Yuvan

neenga rendu perum purinju dhaan pesareengalaa...
i thought you guys are wise enough to understand what is meant by commercial loops...
commercial loops kaasu kudutthu vaangi use panradhukkum...
vera pattula irundhu oru piece'a apdiyae copy panni podradhukkum vitthiyasam ungalukku therinjirukkum'nu nenachaen...

[Scale]

[tscii:d2f60a408e]Every Composers in the world have their own source of inspiration right from mothers womb to death and TFM/IFM composers are no exceptional. Whats worst is "Outsourcing" for fame and survival? Deva, Anumalik, Pritam….....you fill up....... etc.

Some inspirations gets deeply registered into your mind and however you try to be original, innovative that keeps getting popped up and you cant escape it. It happens to common man's day-to-day life. I presume this is how ARR started introducing the usage of commercial loops in his songs considering he is an arranger/assembler & prime sound librarian. Thottil pazhakkam sudu kaadu varaikkum enbathu pola and it continued for somewhile. He could have easily made a different beat structure for mukkabla, kuluvalile, thenmerku, endrendrum. Tune is his and 100% original and the usage is minimal and not so blatant like others. He himself have cleared from all these allegations that he wont employ anymore loop rhythms/beats.

My grouse is why YSR/HJ have to follow the same trend. "arumaiyana pazhamozhi irukku" .....3 songs in a single album And YSR association with Premji Amaran is much more ludicrous than before. Most of his short-winged pieces like Spidy theme, yammadi interlude - 50 cents, Vazhkaiya yosingada - Senthamil thenmozhiyai, pushing it hard, bunch of remixes and even rap lyrics. Both of them are an illicit to their fathers reputation. And HJ is nothing but a fading-fluke-drive. Watched that fun Interview damn hilarious Bheema is a lazy project that’s why I use Roxette to meet the dead line and composing original music is painstaking. And in comments section its esteemed to honesty.

"Music is not just sound it’s how you use sounds to organize emotions in time". When you analyze the veteran composers ofcourse they do have their shares of direct inspirations/lifts as well but don’t sideline their talent and stress issues to extremity. If you listen the entire song they have improvised with their own imagination and sheer talent. They didn’t voluntarily outsource to introduce something new to the industry or to remix yesteryear classics. Moreover their reputations stands pinnacle with their enormous variety, longevity, genre mix, orchestration brilliance, elite singers from their songs. They all are revolution in their eras and their prowess wont get diminished whereas YSR/HJ are yet to explode in several areas and its almost a decade now.... I mean their versatility, knowledge, as a singer than these plagiaristic tags. VS on the other hand proved better, as a master melodymaker.[/tscii:d2f60a408e]

[rsubras]

Doesnt "Chella nam veetukku" song and "Mera yara dildara" from Kabhi na Kabhi (by A.R.Rahman) sound fairly similar?? esp the piece "ada kovil konjam bore adithal theivam vanthu vaazhum veedu" in chella nam song and the tune in saranam towards the end

[thamizhvaanan]

I think "tu hi tu" from the same album kabhi na kabhi is very similar to "manasey manasey mayakkam enna" from one of the vijay films. The beginning so much so reminds me of that song. Kabhi na Kabhi released arnd 1994 right?

[SoftSword]

Doesnt "Chella nam veetukku" song and "Mera yara dildara" from Kabhi na Kabhi (by A.R.Rahman) sound fairly similar?? esp the piece "ada kovil konjam bore adithal theivam vanthu vaazhum veedu" in chella nam song and the tune in saranam towards the end

in which move is the song you mention...?
have any link?

[sarna_blr]

Doesnt "Chella nam veetukku" song and "Mera yara dildara" from Kabhi na Kabhi (by A.R.Rahman) sound fairly similar?? esp the piece "ada kovil konjam bore adithal theivam vanthu vaazhum veedu" in chella nam song and the tune in saranam towards the end

in which move is the song you mention...?
have any link?

Poovellaam un vaasam... vidhyasagar music...

http://www.raaga.com/channels/Tamil/moviedetail.asp?mid=T0000368

[rsubras]

Kabhi na Kabhi, the websites say it got released in 1998, it can be heard at this link

http://www.dishant.com/album/kabhi-na-kabhi-(1998).html

the song i was mentioning, contains resembling piece to "Chella nam veetukku" song from Poovellam un vaasam in the lines 0:53 - 1:04, not exactly, but similar......... the tune, rhythm pattern was so much similar to some of the tamil tunes, i was thinking so hard as to where i heard this music earlier.... only cud think of this song.. i bet there were other songs that used this tune as well... :)

and yea..tamizhvannan was rite..tu hi tu was similar to manase manase from Nenjinile (Deva), that is understandable, considering Deva's track record of importing rahman's hindi songs into tamil........

But anyway it is a pity that i have already heard rahman's tunes thru other MD's songs and only then coming across the original......... :)

[interz]

"Error 404: Requested file not found", when visiting that link you gave rsubras. Do you got a different useful link???

[dinesh2002]

I think "tu hi tu" from the same album kabhi na kabhi is very similar to "manasey manasey mayakkam enna" from one of the vijay films. The beginning so much so reminds me of that song. Kabhi na Kabhi released arnd 1994 right?

yes.... Deva xeroxed the Tu Hi Tu into his Manase Manase in his movie Nenjinile [1999]....

Kabhi na Kabhi was released around 1998....

but whats funny, i have Mona Lisa audio cassette, which had dubbing songs of Kabhi Na Kabhi, it was released in the year 1997.........

[RR]

"Error 404: Requested file not found", when visiting that link you gave rsubras. Do you got a different useful link???
interz,

Just go to: http://tfmpage.com/opod/. Select 'Hindi' language and type in the search box "mere yaara".

[rsubras]

edited my post interz... the link actually got cut due to some reasons .. this is the full link

http://www.dishant.com/album/kabhi-na-kabhi-(1998).html

[kingvj]

am not sure if its just me or thats the way it is...

"Adada adada" from "Santhosh subramaniam" sounds very similar in instrumentation, singing etc to "Azhagiya laila".

"Enadhuyire" from Bheema somehow reminds me of "Saamikitta" from Dass.

[SoftSword]

am not sure if its just me or thats the way it is...

"Adada adada" from "Santhosh subramaniam" sounds very similar in instrumentation, singing etc to "Azhagiya laila".

"Enadhuyire" from Bheema somehow reminds me of "Saamikitta" from Dass.

i agree wrto enadhiyirae and saamikitta....
but for me whenever i hear enadhiyirae.... i remember mayliragae...

[dinesh2002]

am not sure if its just me or thats the way it is...

"Adada adada" from "Santhosh subramaniam" sounds very similar in instrumentation, singing etc to "Azhagiya laila".

"Enadhuyire" from Bheema somehow reminds me of "Saamikitta" from Dass.

i agree wrto enadhiyirae and saamikitta....
but for me whenever i hear enadhiyirae.... i remember mayliragae...

when i hear Enadhuyire... i remember Munbe Va.... :? ....really......

[xml]

The recent album sivaji ballelakka song is a copy of Dalermehindi album songs na na na nare.

Sahana song is IR's old song.

[SoftSword]

The recent album sivaji ballelakka song is a copy of Dalermehindi album songs na na na nare.

Sahana song is IR's old song.

yeah when i first heard vaaji vaaji on the album release, i remember some songs from vaaranam aayiram...
not able to figure out which song exactly...

idhellaam inga sonna yaaru brother yaetthukkuraanga...
nammala loosunu solluvaanga.....

[dinesh2002]

The recent album sivaji ballelakka song is a copy of Dalermehindi album songs na na na nare.

Sahana song is IR's old song.

wonderful sense of music.... keep it up.....and keep it to urself... :)

[app_engine]

From another thread:




GVP would have hardly tuned for 4 to 5 films...
but it is rediculous to compare with biggies IR & ARR who set trends when they stormed
into TFM.

it's also a pity to note that this upcoming artist resorts to cheap blatant lifts and fruityloop beats at his very beginning of his career

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5ER9mwuGCpU
see this beautifully picturized urban's song..

and watch out for our GVP version here...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wVuOOgSLIwI

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yZX7iA9Y1sI ... smack that..

polladhavan version here
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GsZv5IY00OU

[Sanjeevi]

Today I heard a chinese bit which is exactly same as Akkadanu naanga (Indian) song's starting bit

[dinesh2002]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tV_IVtXcg4g&feature=related

Original source for Kadhal Vanthathum - Povellam Un Vasam ????

what song is this anyways, can anyone gimme the tittle and the movies name??

[vasanth2006]

GVP would have hardly tuned for 4 to 5 films...
but it is rediculous to compare with biggies IR & ARR who set trends when they stormed
into TFM.

it's also a pity to note that this upcoming artist resorts to cheap blatant lifts and fruityloop beats at his very beginning of his career

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5ER9mwuGCpU
see this beautifully picturized urban's song..

and watch out for our GVP version here...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wVuOOgSLIwI



Straight copy.....It is available in itwofs.com....



http://youtube.com/watch?v=yZX7iA9Y1sI ... smack that..

polladhavan version here
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GsZv5IY00OU


I thought the beats only copied/inspired.....ada pavi....some portion of the tune also copied/inspired....

[kham]

GVP would have hardly tuned for 4 to 5 films...
but it is rediculous to compare with biggies IR & ARR who set trends when they stormed
into TFM.

it's also a pity to note that this upcoming artist resorts to cheap blatant lifts and fruityloop beats at his very beginning of his career

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5ER9mwuGCpU
see this beautifully picturized urban's song..

and watch out for our GVP version here...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wVuOOgSLIwI



Straight copy.....It is available in itwofs.com....



http://youtube.com/watch?v=yZX7iA9Y1sI ... smack that..

polladhavan version here
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GsZv5IY00OU


I thought the beats only copied/inspired.....ada pavi....some portion of the tune also copied/inspired....

Ya m8, same as yuvan did it with Raghav's Lets work it out song... :lol:

[SoftSword]

Today I heard a chinese bit which is exactly same as Akkadanu naanga (Indian) song's starting bit

sanjeevi i really thought that you know something about commercial loops...

[Sanjeevi]

Today I heard a chinese bit which is exactly same as Akkadanu naanga (Indian) song's starting bit

sanjeevi i really thought that you know something about commercial loops...

Ok Ok

[MrIndia]

GVP... Kuselan... Om Zaarare Zaarare..

listen at 02:12 to 02:20 apidiye... bourne supremacy :lol: :lol:

copy adingada ellathukum theriyira maathiri adikateenga

[SoftSword]

even the chaaral song starting sounds like valli song....
velli mazhai saaral enai killi vittuppoga....
followed by a guitar piece....

&

singa saangu rappappo... sing along rappappo...
followed by a similar guitar piece...

dono if its copied... :)

[karthik_sa2]

arr's taxi ludes resembles one of the interludes of "kadavul amaithu vaitha medai" just a small portion but exact tune...surely arr must have done it delibrately..

[interz]

Pinju Thendrale (Majnu) <--> En Meal Viluntha Mazhai Thuzhiye (May Madham).

http://www.oosai.com/tamilsongs/majnu_songs.cfm (Majnu)

http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/tamil/s/movie_name.4835/ (May Madham)

[littlemaster1982]

Karthik,

Can you specify the exact portion? I heard it, but didn't find any resemblance :huh:

[sibicalls]

Karthik,

Can you specify the exact portion? I heard it, but didn't find any resemblance :huh:

Don't bother.. Avaru Saroja function ARR attend pannathilerunthu konjam kovama irukar.. So don't take it very seriously :D

PS : No offense meant

[dinesh2002]

Karthik,

Can you specify the exact portion? I heard it, but didn't find any resemblance :huh:

mee 2 :? .... i didint find any thing similar..... Karthik... yennapa ithe.... :lol:

[dinesh2002]

Karthik,

Can you specify the exact portion? I heard it, but didn't find any resemblance :huh:

Don't bother.. Avaru Saroja function ARR attend pannathilerunthu konjam kovama irukar.. So don't take it very seriously :D

PS : No offense meant

why??? thought it should have delighted them rather than the other way round.... :shock:

besides, i saw the video clip, ARR and YSR looked like brothers.... did anyone felt the same too??

[dinesh2002]

Pinju Thendrale (Majnu) <--> En Meal Viluntha Mazhai Thuzhiye (May Madham).

http://www.oosai.com/tamilsongs/majnu_songs.cfm (Majnu)

http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/tamil/s/movie_name.4835/ (May Madham)

Majnu songs, almost all had ARR's music in them, esp that Gulmore Malare = Pacchai Nirame, Hari Gora = Chandiranai Thothetheyaar and such...

btw, when i hear Pinju Thendrale, all i remember is "Thenkizhaku Cheemayile - Kizhake Cheemayile" .....

[SoftSword]

dinesh...
exactly my opinion when i frist heard majnu.....

[karthik_sa2]

http://www.4shared.com/file/57227607/ec8b915c/KADAVUL_AMAITHU.html

pls listen from 5:30 to 5:45 ..... the same humming part that comes often in taxi...


Karthik,

Can you specify the exact portion? I heard it, but didn't find any resemblance

[karthik_sa2]

Don't bother.. Avaru Saroja function ARR attend pannathilerunthu konjam kovama irukar.. So don't take it very seriously


PS : No offense meant


offend pannitu apporam no offence meant na enna artham...i was only unhappy with ameer's speech in that function...mathapadi as dinesh said even i felt very happy seeing arr and yuvan together...yes they very much looked like brothers :)

[karthik_sa2]

y no reply now DINESH and sibicalls. talk me talk me :lol:

[sibicalls]

y no reply now DINESH and sibicalls. talk me talk me :lol:

This is the funniest accusation i ve ever heard... And my first comments still holds good... Everybody please listen to that bit and reply to our friend Karthik.

Only thing common is i can hear 'na na na na' in that bit.. But i find no similarity in the way it is sung..

[dinesh2002]

y no reply now DINESH and sibicalls. talk me talk me :lol:

hahah.... sorry sorry.... missed to check out this thread... wait im downloading...

Karthik, resemblance illama irakathum... unnai naan vechekeran.... :lol:

[dinesh2002]

karthikkkkkkkkk.....

ithe ellam oru resemblance va????? ayyyaah.... :lol:

seriously, again i dun see anything ..... i cant trace which part in taxi song ur referring too....

[karthik_sa2]

that na na na comes for the whole song . you want it to be sung the same way . only then you will accept ah ? funny man ! ( vivek style ):-) anyways whether you accept or not am least bothered.

[karthik_sa2]

DINESH i was refering to that humming part:) which comes in the start mid and end also . pls be honest . anyways as a whole i loved that song. the usuall arr pep which i love the most after long time was able to see in this song. we all know arr is a big fan of msv . influence has always been there. even he will accept . so that part alone may be he wanted to keep .

[vasanth2006]

the usuall arr pep which i love the most after long time was able to see in this song.

Exactly my feelings and taste..... :D

[sibicalls]

that na na na comes for the whole song . you want it to be sung the same way . only then you will accept ah ? funny man ! ( vivek style ):-) anyways whether you accept or not am least bothered.

Going by your logic any song based on carnatic and uses commonly used phrases like "tham, thom" and all are copied???? Please enlighten :roll:

[sibicalls]

and same na na na humming is used in 'Meenaxi' song 'Dhuan Dhuan' in a different manner.. Hopefully u wont call tat as well a copy :)

[karthik_sa2]

sibi sir neenga enna paesringa onniyum puriyala... :lol:

[Ramakrishna]

sibi sir neenga enna paesringa onniyum puriyala... :lol:

avar ozhungathaan paesuraaru, ungalukku thaan comprehending problem-o?
First of all, konjam kooda unmai illaatha matter-a inga kondu vara vendiya avasiyam enna vanthathu ungalukku? ARR mela avalo veriyaa? :roll:

[natha1729]

find that Khatta Meetta "yeh jeena hai" is the origin of ARR Ella Pugahum Oruvan.... where it matches is some interlude and most of stanzas... check it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cVRi2R26xY

But ARR' variation is very fantastic but the original is legendary song

[SoftSword]

http://www.4shared.com/file/57227607/ec8b915c/KADAVUL_AMAITHU.html

pls listen from 5:30 to 5:45 ..... the same humming part that comes often in taxi...


Karthik,

Can you specify the exact portion? I heard it, but didn't find any resemblance




I heard the piece u mentioned...
neenga romba adhigama yosikkireenga...

[SoftSword]

find that Khatta Meetta "yeh jeena hai" is the origin of ARR Ella Pugahum Oruvan.... where it matches is some interlude and most of stanzas... check it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cVRi2R26xY

But ARR' variation is very fantastic but the original is legendary song

guess u hav given a wrong link...
please post the exact youtube link so that everybody can hear and compare...

[MrJudge]

Dinesh,

download ellam mudinjaachchaa? research eppadi poiyitturukku?? :lol2:

[karthik_sa2]

avar ozhungathaan paesuraaru, ungalukku thaan comprehending problem-o?
First of all, konjam kooda unmai illaatha matter-a inga kondu vara vendiya avasiyam enna vanthathu ungalukku? ARR mela avalo veriyaa?

ungaluku hearing problem'o???aedha thaanya neenga accept pannerkinga arr fanatics..
oru simple resemblance'ku avar edho carnatic classic western'nu oru post adhula enaku comprehending problem'a nu oru kealvi vera...guys if u cant accept something leave it there itself...y do u have to say arr mela enaku veri and all......... :sigh2:

[sibicalls]

avar ozhungathaan paesuraaru, ungalukku thaan comprehending problem-o?
First of all, konjam kooda unmai illaatha matter-a inga kondu vara vendiya avasiyam enna vanthathu ungalukku? ARR mela avalo veriyaa?

ungaluku hearing problem'o???aedha thaanya neenga accept pannerkinga arr fanatics..
oru simple resemblance'ku avar edho carnatic classic western'nu oru post adhula enaku comprehending problem'a nu oru kealvi vera...guys if u cant accept something leave it there itself...y do u have to say arr mela enaku veri and all......... :sigh2:

ethavathu urupadiya sonna thaaneya naanga accept panna mudiyum.. :lol: :lol:

And if anybody needs to find how copied song sounds like, listen to 'The Raven' from hedningarna . That is perfect example of sitting and ripping apart the full music created by somebody else, and passing it of as one's own creativity.. :poke:

[karthik_sa2]

This is the funniest accusation i ve ever heard... And my first comments still holds good... Everybody please listen to that bit and reply to our friend Karthik.

Only thing common is i can hear 'na na na na' in that bit.. But i find no similarity in the way it is sung..

what do u mean by the way it is sung??i thought u r talkin about modulation and other factors of singing..ippo dhaan puridhu u meant tune...adhuku the way it is sung'na solluvaanga...simple'a tune vera'nu sollirkalam la...anyways the tune itself is same though its a very small bit its the same but u[arr fans] are fooling urself just for arguing...again am saying its only a small bit and arr delibrately wold have had such a part...the overalll song is original and its appealing too...idhuku mela indha vilayaatuku naan varala...

[karthik_sa2]

And if anybody needs to find how copied song sounds like, listen to 'The Raven' from hedningarna . That is perfect example of sitting and ripping apart the full music created by somebody else, and passing it of as one's own creativity..

how about "will u be there" :lol2:

[kham]

And if anybody needs to find how copied song sounds like, listen to 'The Raven' from hedningarna . That is perfect example of sitting and ripping apart the full music created by somebody else, and passing it of as one's own creativity..

how about "will u be there" :lol2:

Listen to Raghav's LETS WORK IT OUT first dude... :lol: :lol: :lol:

[kham]

[tscii:f6f28f300a]OMG... Jr really ROCKS IN THIS... :)
I heard “A rose in the wind” (by Anggun).
my god!!!! itz copied note by note by YUVANSHANKAR RAJA…….. in the film Kaadhal kondein(Manasu Randu Paarka)
.
here is the link……….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyluOSP3rGw
friends try it ……….
[/tscii:f6f28f300a]

[dinesh2002]

Dinesh,

download ellam mudinjaachchaa? research eppadi poiyitturukku?? :lol2:

:twisted: athan yen answer're naan sollithene... innum enna kinddale.... :twisted:

[Ramakrishna]

avar ozhungathaan paesuraaru, ungalukku thaan comprehending problem-o?
First of all, konjam kooda unmai illaatha matter-a inga kondu vara vendiya avasiyam enna vanthathu ungalukku? ARR mela avalo veriyaa?

ungaluku hearing problem'o???aedha thaanya neenga accept pannerkinga arr fanatics..
oru simple resemblance'ku avar edho carnatic classic western'nu oru post adhula enaku comprehending problem'a nu oru kealvi vera...guys if u cant accept something leave it there itself...y do u have to say arr mela enaku veri and all......... :sigh2:

y shud i accept when it is not true? ithu nallaa comedy-yaa irukkey.
Neengo etho onna solluveenga, atha neenga blind-a accept pannanumaa. Panlannaa naanga fanatics. Apdithaane?
Dude, i am not saying ARR never gets inspired. Infact we ARR fans have been discussing his inspirations in his threads. U can check the threads if u want.
Aana neenga solra antha bit-a kaettu paathuthaan naa comment panren. I can't find any resemblance at all.
Ok, u may feel that it may be inspired. But ethukkaaga ARR deliberately did that nu antha comment, ennavo AR song compose pannumbothu neenga pakkathula iruntha maathiri.

[kamal133]

Dhost song in Saroja sounds so similar to Sathu Nadu Sathu in Sethupathi IPS..did anybody notice?.

[interz]

Velvetta Velvetta:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIDCuQBd1TY

...notice the lelakku lei lelakku lei... part

Appidi Podu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z59zz_-sxiU

...compared with...

En manasile nee ninaaikkiriyae
Aye azhagha en kanavile nee muzhikkiriyae
Aye adada en uzattule nee inikkiriyae
Idhu nijamthaanaa?

[dinesh2002]

jelena karleusa - mala

Mayya Mayya- Guru copied by Serbian Singer.... :twisted:

http://www.itwofs.com/audio/MalaMala-JelenaKarleusa.rm

i have the full mp3 though, if u guys wanna listen to it, do tell, ill upload the mp3....

[MrJudge]

ithu mAlai nEraththu mayakkam - An old number - listened to it partly and felt so close to kaNmani nillu kAranam sollu from oomai vizhigaL. Are they based on same raaga or something?

[steveaustin]

Resemblance or recycled????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CJvz02MNzs

[SoftSword]

Resemblance or recycled????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CJvz02MNzs

its not the same notes though sound is similar...

[dinesh2002]

Resemblance or recycled????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CJvz02MNzs

:? :?

Okanthe Yosipangalo?? :lol: :lol:

[dochu]

dinesh2002
Are you referring to this song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5U00W2yhlE
and maya maya - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPLE1wtQwB4

[dinesh2002]

dinesh2002
Are you referring to this song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5U00W2yhlE
and maya maya - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPLE1wtQwB4

no dochu, this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TALGiqL800o

but this is remixed by some Dj... but the basic song there is what i meant... :)

[dochu]

Thanks.

But this site -www.itwofs.com says ARR did that music and Serbian singer used it.

http://www.discogs.com/release/1293792

Whatever it is, for an Indian composer to tune in 'serbian' based song is unlikely. It is like serbian singer composing a carnatic based song - she must have some source.

ARR must have had inspiration from somewhere.

[littlemaster1982]

Dochu,

Didn't you see she had credited ARR for that song (albiet for 'lyrics'). Why should she have to mention ARR if she had some other inspiration :huh:

Too desperate, eh?? :lol2:

[dochu]

littlemaster1982,
I think you got desperate and jumped on me. :-)

By saying that serbian singer lifted from ARR - Isn't that itself an accolade for ARR?. :-)

I was just curious - how ARR could compose a serbian based song out of thin air. Say - If I grew up in a remote island - totally cut off - will I be able to, say, 'specifically' create an arabic song? Wouldn't it be necessary to know something about it before I do? :-)

[Ramakrishna]

littlemaster1982,
I think you got desperate and jumped on me. :-)

By saying that serbian singer lifted from ARR - Isn't that itself an accolade for ARR?. :-)

I was just curious - how ARR could compose a serbian based song out of thin air. Say - If I grew up in a remote island - totally cut off - will I be able to, say, 'specifically' create an arabic song? Wouldn't it be necessary to know something about it before I do? :-)

yes, obviously he would have done some research.

[littlemaster1982]

littlemaster1982,
I think you got desperate and jumped on me. :-)

By saying that serbian singer lifted from ARR - Isn't that itself an accolade for ARR?. :-)

I was just curious - how ARR could compose a serbian based song out of thin air. Say - If I grew up in a remote island - totally cut off - will I be able to, say, 'specifically' create an arabic song? Wouldn't it be necessary to know something about it before I do? :-)

Dochu,

You were not clear in your previous post. And, Mayya Mayya is not a serbian based song. It's a song with middle eastern flavour.

Your post just didn't look like you were showering accolades on ARR.

[Yathu]

Resemblance or recycled????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CJvz02MNzs

:lol:

OW PLAYYYYSE!

Someone actually took the time to post this on YouTube? :shock:

And the description for the vid: "rahman copied from ilayaraja..." :lol:

[app_engine]

http://www.kumudam.com/magazine/Kumudam/2008-09-10/pg11.php

Kumudam review of "dhAm dhoom" says:

ஹாரிஸ் ஜெயராஜின் இசையில் பாடல்கள் பரவாயில்லை. டைட்டில் மியூசிக்கை பால் மரியாவிடம் இருந்து உருவி இருக்கிறார். பின்னணி இசையில் பிரமாண்டம் தெரிகிறதே தவிர ஜீவன் இல்லை

Just curious - which piece of PM?
Any links to this title score on the web?

[kingvj]

One more feather to HJ's cap.

The scene where Saamy reveals himself in the movie...exactly where he takes out the tharasu to hit Ponnambalam... the BGM is BBC News title score..! Enga poyi solluven.. ennaannu solluven..! :-D

[sloshed]

One song from Raman thediye Seethai...has becomee my seasonal favorite . . "Enna pulla Senje nee". VS voice and the whole song is just impressive..
But whenever I recollect the song..I seem to be reminded of "Thalam Poove Kanurangu" from Indru nee nalai Naan..Did anyone else feel the same.... off course only in the saranam.. No way discrediting the whole song.. which is still a class act..

[sloshed]

Kingvj..

If you start counting BGMs in the copying thread, this thread will have to be shut down due to traffice... believe me.. none of the MD's will be spared...lets just stick to songs..

[Bhoori]

I write reviews of the movies in the sun tv 75 aandu thamizh cinema kondattam at http://awardakodukkaranga.wordpress.com/

I noticed a couple of things recently. One was the similarity between the songs, "annaatthe aaduraar" and "adradra adradra nakka mukka". My post on this here - http://awardakodukkaranga.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/அண்ணாத்தே-ஆடுறார்-vs-நாக்க/

Also, in the review of "anbe aaruyire" ( http://awardakodukkaranga.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/அன்பே-ஆருயிரே-anbe-aaruyire/ ) I noted that "malligai mullai pooppanthal" in that movie and the more famous song "naalaam naalaam thirunaalaam" sound very similar. I later came to know that both are based on the raga, Thilang...

Possibly, this has been commented upon earlier. I haven't read all pages here...

[sloshed]

Did not know where to post this....

Is Tamil Nadu really this un-talented when it comes to singing??

Off late I have been watching some reality singing shows...right from start ..zee...sony...Vijay ..

There is one thing which stands out like a sore thumb..the QUALITY
Watching Ideastar in Asisnet is pure bliss..be it the orchestra or the singing or the judges..high standards of quality...on comparison try and watch vijay Tv super singer ... nobody is even worth an ear... is this all the talent we have in Tamil Nadu .. it really stumps me..and on top of it most of the contestants seem come from a carnatic background..yet their singing sucks.. I guess there is no more charismatic singers anymore..the last one was Karthick ..Its really sad to even compare singing talents from the north...there is just no compariosn.. the singers are miles ahead of what we see in the south...

To think this is the land which produced the likes of MSV,IR,ARR its more heart breaking...

Are we this un-talented when it comes to singing???

[Bhoori]

I saw the movie "Rani Samyuktha" yesterday in sun tv. There was one song, "nenjirukkum varai ninaivirukkum" that reminded me of another song, but I can't quite remember it. I remember only the second line in the song - "ninaivinil therivathu azhagu mugam, aasai mugam". I can't quite remember the opening. I think TMS is the male voice, I think there is a female voice as well, but I can't quite remember it. Anyone know what song I am talking about? If you do, can anyone tell me whether they are based on a raga? (I wonder whether the tune is a plain copy or just based on the same raga)

My review of Rani Samyuktha here - http://awardakodukkaranga.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/ராணி-சம்யுக்தா-rani-samyuktha/

I have included a link to the song there, so that you can hear it and make your own judgement.

[Bhoori]

Thanks to Saradha, who identified the song as "Nenjinile ninaivu mugam" from the movie Chitrangi.

[steveaustin]

Lifted or resemblance???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-jlDg3DiLA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwt3kr0_l6I

[viraajan]

Kingvj..

If you start counting BGMs in the copying thread, this thread will have to be shut down due to traffice... believe me.. none of the MD's will be spared...lets just stick to songs..

:exactly:

I watched a spanish movie yesterday called "El Mariachi". OMG, most of the BGM in that movie have been used in Tamil. This may be a resemblance also. But sadly couldn't identify when/where/how and who used it.
Also, there is a song in that movie which starts with a guitar. Am damn sure that some culprit has used it in tamil. Presently elluding me.
Will try to find this out soon. Else will post it on my blog. Let visitors find it. :D

[elfmaniac85]

Lifted or resemblance???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-jlDg3DiLA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwt3kr0_l6I


Isn't it a known fact why he works late at night and what he has accumulated in his library? Since his jingle & Roja days till now many know where his music is lifted from and where he gets "inspired" from.

It will only take a music village bumkin to not know this as they have never accessed to outside music other than tfm/hfm.

But times are changing even for these MVBs and tech and internet will and is already opening up all the vandavalam thandavalam ellam. 8-)

[pure bliss]

Lifted or resemblance???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-jlDg3DiLA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwt3kr0_l6I


Isn't it a known fact why he works late at night and what he has accumulated in his library? Since his jingle & Roja days till now many know where his music is lifted from and where he gets "inspired" from.

It will only take a music village bumkin to not know this as they have never accessed to outside music other than tfm/hfm.

But times are changing even for these MVBs and tech and internet will and is already opening up all the vandavalam thandavalam ellam. 8-)

We dont whois that bumkin . check the link below to educate yourself
http://www.itwofs.com/tamil-arr.html

these discussions have been done to death. full stop.

[dinesh2002]

Lifted or resemblance???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-jlDg3DiLA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwt3kr0_l6I


Isn't it a known fact why he works late at night and what he has accumulated in his library? Since his jingle & Roja days till now many know where his music is lifted from and where he gets "inspired" from.

It will only take a music village bumkin to not know this as they have never accessed to outside music other than tfm/hfm.

But times are changing even for these MVBs and tech and internet will and is already opening up all the vandavalam thandavalam ellam. 8-)

:lol2: haiyoo haiyooo.... mudiyale....!! sollitaare da, namma pudhu Isaingani! ..... ellam ketukungo pa.... :devil:

[elfmaniac85]

Lifted or resemblance???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-jlDg3DiLA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwt3kr0_l6I


Isn't it a known fact why he works late at night and what he has accumulated in his library? Since his jingle & Roja days till now many know where his music is lifted from and where he gets "inspired" from.

It will only take a music village bumkin to not know this as they have never accessed to outside music other than tfm/hfm.

But times are changing even for these MVBs and tech and internet will and is already opening up all the vandavalam thandavalam ellam. 8-)

:lol2: haiyoo haiyooo.... mudiyale....!! sollitaare da, namma pudhu Isaingani! ..... ellam ketukungo pa.... :devil:


Just as in all their forums are full of amateurish exchanges(between the same few who are the only ones who seems to be hanging in there...sadly) like "wow, its a fantastic number; today i passed by the tea shop and they were playing that song; my nephew was humming to this song when i left my house, etc. ", I guess their trading "barbs" technique will also be at the same level. 8-)

[Hulkster]

Well the first one to be fair is just a chant used as a loop but the second one is authentic bass and i have got to say rahman surprised me with with a minor lift there. Well the tune is original and i think thats what people will be looking for but IMHO as a musician u should not be trying to copy orchestration of others. As the song is damn old and not the best of rahman i dunt think it will bother anyone that much. :D

[interz]

Mention a music director who hasnt used a bit from Deep Forest or Enigma...

[dinesh2002]

Lifted or resemblance???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-jlDg3DiLA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwt3kr0_l6I


Isn't it a known fact why he works late at night and what he has accumulated in his library? Since his jingle & Roja days till now many know where his music is lifted from and where he gets "inspired" from.

It will only take a music village bumkin to not know this as they have never accessed to outside music other than tfm/hfm.

But times are changing even for these MVBs and tech and internet will and is already opening up all the vandavalam thandavalam ellam. 8-)

:lol2: haiyoo haiyooo.... mudiyale....!! sollitaare da, namma pudhu Isaingani! ..... ellam ketukungo pa.... :devil:


Just as in all their forums are full of amateurish exchanges(between the same few who are the only ones who seems to be hanging in there...sadly) like "wow, its a fantastic number; today i passed by the tea shop and they were playing that song; my nephew was humming to this song when i left my house, etc. ", I guess their trading "barbs" technique will also be at the same level. 8-)

Ohh is it??? awwwwwww...ohh man... dayummmmmm...... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Pasangala, namma ellam tappe pannithom.... :lol: next time we shall chat as 'matured' as our "Great Lord" Elf Maniac.... ok??

[elfmaniac85]

Lifted or resemblance???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-jlDg3DiLA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwt3kr0_l6I


Isn't it a known fact why he works late at night and what he has accumulated in his library? Since his jingle & Roja days till now many know where his music is lifted from and where he gets "inspired" from.

It will only take a music village bumkin to not know this as they have never accessed to outside music other than tfm/hfm.

But times are changing even for these MVBs and tech and internet will and is already opening up all the vandavalam thandavalam ellam. 8-)

:lol2: haiyoo haiyooo.... mudiyale....!! sollitaare da, namma pudhu Isaingani! ..... ellam ketukungo pa.... :devil:


Just as in all their forums are full of amateurish exchanges(between the same few who are the only ones who seems to be hanging in there...sadly) like "wow, its a fantastic number; today i passed by the tea shop and they were playing that song; my nephew was humming to this song when i left my house, etc. ", I guess their trading "barbs" technique will also be at the same level. 8-)

Ohh is it??? awwwwwww...ohh man... dayummmmmm...... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Pasangala, namma ellam tappe pannithom.... :lol: next time we shall chat as 'matured' as our "Great Lord" Elf Maniac.... ok??


Enough of your stellar replies(as expected)....ithuko bathil sollungo
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=5CJvz02MNzs

And just hang in there patiently pal. More vandavalam thandavalam will be coming out. 8-)

[dinesh2002]

Lifted or resemblance???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-jlDg3DiLA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwt3kr0_l6I


Isn't it a known fact why he works late at night and what he has accumulated in his library? Since his jingle & Roja days till now many know where his music is lifted from and where he gets "inspired" from.

It will only take a music village bumkin to not know this as they have never accessed to outside music other than tfm/hfm.

But times are changing even for these MVBs and tech and internet will and is already opening up all the vandavalam thandavalam ellam. 8-)

:lol2: haiyoo haiyooo.... mudiyale....!! sollitaare da, namma pudhu Isaingani! ..... ellam ketukungo pa.... :devil:


Just as in all their forums are full of amateurish exchanges(between the same few who are the only ones who seems to be hanging in there...sadly) like "wow, its a fantastic number; today i passed by the tea shop and they were playing that song; my nephew was humming to this song when i left my house, etc. ", I guess their trading "barbs" technique will also be at the same level. 8-)

Ohh is it??? awwwwwww...ohh man... dayummmmmm...... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Pasangala, namma ellam tappe pannithom.... :lol: next time we shall chat as 'matured' as our "Great Lord" Elf Maniac.... ok??


Enough of your stellar replies(as expected)....ithuko bathil sollungo
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=5CJvz02MNzs

And just hang in there patiently pal. More vandavalam thandavalam will be coming out. 8-)

" OMG !!! IT IS such a BIG LIFT!!! OMG OMG OMG OMG!!! " :lol:

ohh come on... its that all u can offer?? for ur big mouth i expected something else.... but ended with this??? another lame example like this we r gonna write u off... so try to come up with something we dont know and please, this time, tell us when its a genuine LIFT?? im sure ur gonna find it hard doing it....:)

[elfmaniac85]

" OMG !!! IT IS such a BIG LIFT!!! OMG OMG OMG OMG!!! " :lol:

ohh come on... its that all u can offer?? for ur big mouth i expected something else.... but ended with this??? another lame example like this we r gonna write u off... so try to come up with something we dont know and please, this time, tell us when its a genuine LIFT?? im sure ur gonna find it hard doing it....:)


Not necessary by me but it will come. And it will come enough time to time ie. all the vandavals thandavals.

I did say hang in there PATIENTLY pal. 8-)

[elfmaniac85]

" OMG !!! IT IS such a BIG LIFT!!! OMG OMG OMG OMG!!! " :lol:

And dude, we know you're a male. So stop with the bitch attitude. 8-)

[thamizhvaanan]

" OMG !!! IT IS such a BIG LIFT!!! OMG OMG OMG OMG!!! " :lol:

And dude, we know you're a male. So stop with the bitch attitude. 8-)

ayya vasco da gama... ungal kandu pidippugal engalai migavum aacharya paduthi vittana... thangal sevaiku mikka nandri.. :ty:

Get well soon mamoi!! :wave: Try some eno :)

[elfmaniac85]

" OMG !!! IT IS such a BIG LIFT!!! OMG OMG OMG OMG!!! " :lol:

ohh come on... its that all u can offer?? for ur big mouth i expected something else.... but ended with this??? another lame example like this we r gonna write u off... so try to come up with something we dont know and please, this time, tell us when its a genuine LIFT?? im sure ur gonna find it hard doing it....:)


Not necessary by me but it will come. And it will come enough time to time ie. all the vandavals thandavals.

I did say hang in there PATIENTLY pal. 8-)


Taxi Taxi copied/lifted/inspired/etc from DADDY YANKEE-GASOLINA/Reggaetton?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD81Clgmr90

http://tamilmovielyrics.blogspot.com/search/label/Sakkarakatti

[steveaustin]

It seems to be interesting!!!! :roll:

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=S5fgAsvx1Ro&feature=related

[elfmaniac85]

It seems to be interesting!!!! :roll:

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=S5fgAsvx1Ro&feature=related

sweet package 8-)

[littlemaster1982]

Mudiyala :cry:

[elfmaniac85]

We expect better replies/rebuttal if you think we are accusing ARRji's works unnecessarily.

[directhit]

We expect better replies/rebuttal if you think we are accusing ARRji's works unnecessarily. :thumbsup: copy adikka vendiyadhu - appuram adha sonna :rant:
see he has blatantly copied this in Rajini's Baba movie also http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=g3xtMZvG2WI - unga 'moolai' kku ettudhu ivangulukku ettala :cry2:

[Ramakrishna]

We expect better replies/rebuttal if you think we are accusing ARRji's works unnecessarily. :thumbsup: copy adikka vendiyadhu - appuram adha sonna :rant:
see he has blatantly copied this in Rajini's Baba movie also http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=g3xtMZvG2WI - unga 'moolai' kku ettudhu ivangulukku ettala :cry2:

:rotfl2:

[dochu]

Taxi Taxi copied/lifted/inspired/etc from DADDY YANKEE-GASOLINA/Reggaetton?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD81Clgmr90

http://tamilmovielyrics.blogspot.com/search/label/Sakkarakatti

These rap kind of things - all look same. Personally, I don't see that much similarity.

[elfmaniac85]

We've given the showcase of the copy/lift/inspired left right center and it's sad to see them disappeared. 8-)

[littlemaster1982]

You want replies for dumb accusations like that? It's even more sad :cry:

[dinesh2002]

We've given the showcase of the copy/lift/inspired left right center and it's sad to see them disappeared. 8-)

loool.... enna pa.... dreaming ah... not answering u shows its not good/worth enough to be discussed on....


NEXT!!!!

[steveaustin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSCTMzrI1mo&feature=related

Endrendrum punnagai (Alaipayuthe)
seems to be heavily inspired?????? from

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6XE1XRiLeY

[baba88]

HJ got the beat from Enrique Equlesias and the flute piece from YSR.
There you got your hit. You have just to mix the right pieces together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO8Jr-LGjZQ

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=ip5n44gK_e4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRuxK1gj_Sk

[elfmaniac85]

You want replies for dumb accusations like that? It's even more sad :cry:

Ithai ippo sollakudathu. Oru twenty posts ku minnadi sollirukanum (when I started off my comparisons). 8-)

[elfmaniac85]

We've given the showcase of the copy/lift/inspired left right center and it's sad to see them disappeared. 8-)

loool.... enna pa.... dreaming ah... not answering u shows its not good/worth enough to be discussed on....


NEXT!!!!

Ippa mattum enna pannikittu irrkinga? 8-)

[elfmaniac85]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSCTMzrI1mo&feature=related

Endrendrum punnagai (Alaipayuthe)
seems to be heavily inspired?????? from

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6XE1XRiLeY


Goodness! Spot on Steve Austin. :wink:

[thamizhvaanan]

You want replies for dumb accusations like that? It's even more sad :cry:

Ithai ippo sollakudathu. Oru twenty posts ku minnadi sollirukanum (when I started off my comparisons). 8-)

Perhaps he was hoping that at some pt of time sanity would prevail :lol2:

[steveaustin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nteDLgaO1Fs&feature=related

Secret of success from Boys

Now a clean lift????? from ARR (Secret of success)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1if9kLJpWw

[thamizhvaanan]

But seriously dude.. we were not really replying to those coz these things have been discussed to death and its awfully funny to see someone coming from nowhere screaming Eureka Eureka :rotfl: I apologize for laughing at you, but the truth is I did when I read your posts.. just couldnt help it :lol2:

I dont know what is so good about elves to be manic about, but it would be nice if you could restrict your mania to elves alone. Before calling others naive it would be betterl if you can see your back first :wave: Drink Complan... All the best :thumbsup:

[thamizhvaanan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nteDLgaO1Fs&feature=related

Secret of success from Boys

Now a clean lift????? from ARR (Secret of success)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1if9kLJpWw

shebbaaa.... :sigh2: potti pottu thamaasu panraangapa :sigh2:

keep it coming :notworthy: :notworthy:

[Ramakrishna]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nteDLgaO1Fs&feature=related

Secret of success from Boys

Now a clean lift????? from ARR (Secret of success)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1if9kLJpWw

shebbaaa.... :sigh2: potti pottu thamaasu panraangapa :sigh2:

keep it coming :notworthy: :notworthy:

Whats wrong with these people? :omg: Chummma random-a songs select panni lift-nu sollikitraanga. Do they even listen to the songs before posting? :banghead:

[natha1729]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZhdKCo8Ogo

fanaa song may be inspired from this or another mylene faremer song

[dinesh2002]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nteDLgaO1Fs&feature=related

Secret of success from Boys

Now a clean lift????? from ARR (Secret of success)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1if9kLJpWw

CLEAN LIFT???? :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

Oh My KadaVulE!!!!!!! :lol:

[dinesh2002]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZhdKCo8Ogo

fanaa song may be inspired from this or another mylene faremer song

:shock: :shock: :shock:

OMG.. these have people have gone insane!!!! they have become such when they cant seem to find fault in ARR's songs!! :lol: :lol: so any songs which has the same tempo also they will claim its lift!!! :lol: :lol:

but yea, this so called inspired, exactly which part u claim it inspired ARR to compose Fanaaa??? :?

[elfmaniac85]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZhdKCo8Ogo

fanaa song may be inspired from this or another mylene faremer song

:shock: :shock: :shock:

OMG.. these have people have gone insane!!!! they have become such when they cant seem to find fault in ARR's songs!! :lol: :lol: so any songs which has the same tempo also they will claim its lift!!! :lol: :lol:

but yea, this so called inspired, exactly which part u claim it inspired ARR to compose Fanaaa??? :?

Same tempo alone for one song is ok. But for countless songs....how do you react? 8-)

[elfmaniac85]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZhdKCo8Ogo

fanaa song may be inspired from this or another mylene faremer song

:shock: :shock: :shock:

OMG.. these have people have gone insane!!!! they have become such when they cant seem to find fault in ARR's songs!! :lol: :lol: so any songs which has the same tempo also they will claim its lift!!! :lol: :lol:

but yea, this so called inspired, exactly which part u claim it inspired ARR to compose Fanaaa??? :?

And how convenient these people come out from the hiding to something that is far away from being a copy or lift. But it's strange that they don't seek do it on all the other countless proofs. Too close for discomfort i guess. 8-)

[elfmaniac85]

Guys, we can keep this list and keep track.


Taxi Taxi bit lift from an IR song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CJvz02MNzs


Taxi Taxi opening TOTALLY inspired from DADDY YANKEE-GASOLINA (with bale bale thrown in etc)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD81Clgmr90
http://tamilmovielyrics.blogspot.com/search/label/Sakkarakatti


Alai Payuthe's Endrendrum punnagai Ripped from Backstreet Boys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSCTMzrI1mo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6XE1XRiLeY


Secret of success from Boys Ripped from Eminem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1if9kLJpWw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nteDLgaO1Fs&feature=related


http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=S5fgAsvx1Ro&feature=related
Baba's rap Ripped from Anjali
Sahana Ripped from Orey Naal
Poopukkam Ripped from Bramma
Pukar Ripped from Devar Magan
Maduraikku Pogathedi Ripped from Murattu Kalai and
AirTel Theme Ripped from Devadai
Kadhal Desam Ripped from Thenpandi Singam


More to come'ngo.... 8-)

[viraajan]

Elf,
FYI,
I heard this news from a sound engineer in ARR studio. I saw his post in a site. Forgot where i saw.

//Airtel - ripped from Devadai//
During "Devadai" period, ARR was working under IR. Part of that song (especially that chorus part) was actually composed by ARR...

[app_engine]

During "Devadai" period, ARR was working under IR. Part of that song (especially that chorus part) was actually composed by ARR...

Incorrect info, dEvadhai was a product of IR in 1997 or so. By that time, ARR was flying high already and there's no way ARR working under IR.

poi sonnAlum porundhachcholla vENdum:-)

However, I don't know whether the dEvadhai song and airtel tune have any similarities as I haven't heard either of them. Just thought of correcting a wrong statement:-)

[viraajan]

app, pls make it clear. it was not my intention to lie here...
i am certain that i read this news somewhere..

[rajasaranam]

Viraajan,

EKSI :x devathai was Nasser's 2nd movie which got released in 1997. If you had read this somewhere from a sound engineer of ARR's Studio then its obvious that he is doing a 'Sappaikattu' for the similarity in those tunes. :P

[viraajan]

Viraajan,

EKSI :x devathai was Nasser's 2nd movie which got released in 1997. If you had read this somewhere from a sound engineer of ARR's Studio then its obvious that he is doing a 'Sappaikattu' for the similarity in those tunes. :P

Yes RS. On reading that so-called "Sound Engr's" post, i thot it was 80s' movie :D
I dint strain to google and find out :D
May be he was a "buruda" engineer.

[app_engine]

app, pls make it clear. it was not my intention to lie here...
i am certain that i read this news somewhere..

viraajan, my intention was not to accuse you but definitely the source that you were quoting was wrong / malicious, so please don't take it personal:-)

For your part, before posting here such "heresay's", it's better to verify the accuracy.

One more thing:

While it may be true that MD's sometimes get credit for works of their team members, it also happens that former team members loot the works of their previous masters. There are instances of both cases.

However, as for as we listeners (and legal systems) are concerned, only the published credits can be taken and not such things as "insider information" etc. And we know how much "uNmai" people -esp those in cine industry - speak:-)

[viraajan]

app, pls make it clear. it was not my intention to lie here...
i am certain that i read this news somewhere..

viraajan, my intention was not to accuse you but definitely the source that you were quoting was wrong / malicious, so please don't take it personal:-)

For your part, before posting here such "heresay's", it's better to verify the accuracy.

One more thing:

While it may be true that MD's sometimes get credit for works of their team members, it also happens that former team members loot the works of their previous masters. There are instances of both cases.

However, as for as we listeners (and legal systems) are concerned, only the published credits can be taken and not such things as "insider information" etc. And we know how much "uNmai" people -esp those in cine industry - speak:-)

Yep. Cool. Thanks for the clarification App. I felt a sarcasm in your reply. So had to react that way. Got it right now :D

Yes, i should have double checked the news. But before posting this, i tried googling to get the link but it vain :(

Yes, i agree with your last two paragraphs. Its ture.

[dinesh2002]

Guys, we can keep this list and keep track.


Taxi Taxi bit lift from an IR song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CJvz02MNzs


Taxi Taxi opening TOTALLY inspired from DADDY YANKEE-GASOLINA (with bale bale thrown in etc)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD81Clgmr90
http://tamilmovielyrics.blogspot.com/search/label/Sakkarakatti


Alai Payuthe's Endrendrum punnagai Ripped from Backstreet Boys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSCTMzrI1mo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6XE1XRiLeY


Secret of success from Boys Ripped from Eminem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1if9kLJpWw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nteDLgaO1Fs&feature=related


http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=S5fgAsvx1Ro&feature=related
1.Baba's rap Ripped from Anjali
2.Sahana Ripped from Orey Naal
3.Poopukkam Ripped from Bramma
4.Pukar Ripped from Devar Magan
5.Maduraikku Pogathedi Ripped from Murattu Kalai and
6.AirTel Theme Ripped from Devadai
7.Kadhal Desam Ripped from Thenpandi Singam


More to come'ngo.... 8-)

well, i think u know what ur posing is absurd, but just wanted to share this with u....

1.lol.... wild idea!! some1 screaming like that called a lift already??
2.raagam
3.wth?! where and what???
4.then that devar magan song is ripped from MSV song
5.all folk songs goes like that, FYI, IR has used many of his village folk songs as his songs....
6.no similarities....
7.LOL... nothing there...


Taxi bit lifted from IR's song : nonsense, no similarities there...besides, the bit u mentioned from IR is only 5-6 seconds, by the time u start listenin to guess which part its similar, the bits end... lol...
taxi lifted from daddy yanky song : beats sure r similar, but to call it a lift is too much... probably same loops....
endrendrum punngai = backstreetboys : what?? that base beat??? u gotta be kidding me by calling it a lift....
secret of success = eminems song : that 2 seconds??? dude! then many songs in the world r PURE LIFTS!!!

none u mentioned could be considered genuine lift.... U KNOW IT!

awaiting for ur next 'discoveries' ... lol...

[sloshed]

The next time anybody comes up with the claim " The beats are similar" will be banned from the forum with immediate effect ....
Either they dont understand Musik..or they dont know how a song is constructed..

By order of the Queen

[SoftSword]

app, pls make it clear. it was not my intention to lie here...
i am certain that i read this news somewhere..

are u a HJ fan???

[viraajan]

app, pls make it clear. it was not my intention to lie here...
i am certain that i read this news somewhere..

are u a HJ fan???

A big NO.

Top 3 MDs i prefer the most,
IR, ARR, Yuvan :D

[SoftSword]

app, pls make it clear. it was not my intention to lie here...
i am certain that i read this news somewhere..

are u a HJ fan???

A big NO.

Top 3 MDs i prefer the most,
IR, ARR, Yuvan :D

oh sorry..
i thought otherwise...

[dinesh2002]

Azhagana Pasanga Ellam - Kee Moo ...

1 portion in this song is a direct lift from Jodi Jodi - Guru .... ive included the download link of that portion from that song ....

http://www.MegaShare.com/489789

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=P68Q95AS

[RR]

This thread is getting close to 100 pages. Someone go ahead and start another copy of this thread.

Remember to post the link here, and then I'll lock it.

[viraajan]

The next time anybody comes up with the claim " The beats are similar" will be banned from the forum with immediate effect ....
Either they dont understand Musik..or they dont know how a song is constructed..

By order of the Queen

Don't you think this is too much. Even if beats are inspired/copied its a copy. Isn't it? If the resemblence then i may agree with you. But if its blatantly ripped????

[rajasaranam]

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