VARALAATRU SUVADUGAL - ISAIGNANI ILAIYARAAJA

[rajasaranam]

Was keenly awaiting this day! After Superstar Rajnikanths Life history. Its now the music superstar ilaiyaraaja's life history that will grace the pages of Dinathanthi :)
Nevertheless this series of articles will be as informative and insightful into the unconquerable, undisputed evergreen icon of Tamil film history Isaignani Ilaiyaraaja
Read here the part 1 of the series.
http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=330994&disdate=4/23/2007
Keep this thread to discuss upon the article :)

With Thanks to CRV
Here is the link First 50 parts of the series
http://rapidshare.com/files/41667020/Maestro_Varalatru_Suvadugal.rar.html
Enjoy!

Full Series as Thina thanthi pages (No Tamil fonts needed!) (http://tfmpage.com/my/md/ilayaraja/suvadugal/)

[rajasaranam]

RR can you make this thread sticky ?

[Sanjeevi]

I think, already dailythanthi has published the same article series. Now they started for second time. Needless to say, Ilaiyaraja is one of commercial elements/icons of TN and he will be helpful to increase the circulation.

Cinema Express too already published IR's [bThirulaga Varalaaru[/b] in more than 10 issue. I guess the author was Vaamanan.

[rajasaranam]

Part 2 of the series

Nadagathaal pari pona yelakkai estate
http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=331152&disdate=4/24/2007

[app_engine]

Sanjeevi,
May be there was a series in thanthi before. This seems to have some updates (at least it mentions his 31st year in TF industry)...who knows, there could be some recent interviews / scoops added (while there may not be much to add in the historical info, which got reported in many forms in many mags for years)...

[ramk1]

Guys
Can any one of you let me know how to access these articles in dailythanthi?. There is no categorization or whatsoever in this site. All i am able to do is paste the URL onto a browser and i am able to read it. But how can i go to the old stuff of IR?. Pls help.

Ram K

[app_engine]

Ram K,
Once you get to the dailythanthi page via the link provided above, you can click on the icon with the title "மாநிலச்செய்திகள்" on the top of the page (the right most icon).

That'll give you a list of the current day's state news articles. You'll be able to choose upto a week old by selecting the issue date...

BTW, there're only 2 articles on IR series so far and both links are in this thread...

[rajasaranam]

Part 3 of the series:
Oru Naal Sambalam Oru Roobai
http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=331449&disdate=4/25/2007

[selvakumar]

Great info. I love reading VS in Daily Thanthi. Good to see that they have started on life history IR now ! :)

[rajasaranam]

Part 4 of the series:
Athigariyai kavarntha Raajavin Paattu
http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=331618&disdate=4/26/2007

Though i had known Raaja was associated with Communist party this part gives us more info on that. hope it will give us more insight upon the party's influence on music and people in his formative years in the forthcoming articles.
He also said about 'communist party' in the jayakanthan felicitation function couple of years ago, that though he was not a communist he was there due to music and Paavalar and also the party had given him a wide worldly knowledge and perception. Its those 20,000+ musical performances that he was involved with his brother which should have given an immense learning aswelas thirst towards learning more of it IMHO.

On a lighter side did the Adhigari liked Raaja's song or did he not want him to sing anymore is a ? :wink:

[Amanika]

Can someone help please me with the Thina Thanthi article on Illayaraja?
It looks gibberish to me as the fonds are not in Tamil. How do I change to readable Tamil?

[Sanjeevi]

Hi Anamika,

The site has "Download Font" link where you can download the font (or) Use the following link
http://dailythanthi.com/fontdownload/Eltpan-n.ttf

Install the font or copy it to fonts folder (It may be c:\windows\fonts (or) Enter "fonts" in Run dialog box)

[app_engine]

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=332539&disdate=4/30/2007

Next installment...

[app_engine]

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=332753&disdate=5/1/2007

ஆர்மோனியத்தைத்தொட்டதால் அண்ணனிடம் அடி வாங்கிய ராசா...

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

very interesting..........DalilyThanthi does a uruppadiyaana job!

[app_engine]

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=333005&disdate=5/2/2007

அண்ணன் பாவலரோடு கச்சேரி அனுபவங்கள்...

Looks like they travelled through out TN and did communist music...

[rajasaranam]

Thanks app_engine for updating :)
I was on holidays and couldn't update on this.

[app_engine]

You're welcome rs!

In the article, we can sense the "garvam" of Raja in telling "no one else will ever get such experiences (i.e. in travelling to such an extent in TN doing music"...)

உயர்வு நவிற்சியாக நாம் எடுத்துக்கொள்ளலாம்...என்றாலும் இது திட்ட முயலுவோருக்கு அவல் அல்லவா?

[Sanjeevi]

Ilam ariya vathil aayirakkanakkana meda kacherigal makkal mathil, tamilnaatin moolai mudukkugalil paduvathu inimel yaarukkkum sathiyappadathu

in Today's fast food world, it is tooooooooooo hard to anyone.

[app_engine]

http://www.dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=333222&disdate=5/3/2007

At last they've started about the interesting phase...here comes Chinnasamy (BR) into the scene...

[app_engine]

http://www.dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=333457&disdate=5/4/2007

IR-BR oor sutRal experiences...

[swathy]

Thanks app_engine :)

[app_engine]

http://www.dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=334175&disdate=5/7/2007

http://www.dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=334379&disdate=5/8/2007

It's interesting to read IR admitting that the tune of 'indhappunnagai enna vilai' got more appreciation than those of his own...

[Nakeeran]

App Sir

Thanks a lot for your contribution. I am regular reader here of the links .

Thanks a ton.

[swathy]

Thanks Apps. :D

[crvenky]

Its amazing to see IR remembering even the minutest facts like names of places, persons, etc. He has got a great memory power.

[app_engine]

http://www.dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=334535&disdate=5/9/2007

அடப்பாவிங்களா, மறுபடியும் கம்யூனிஸ்ட் பிரசாரக்கதைக்குப்போயிட்டாங்களே...

பாரதிராஜா, எஸ்பிபி எல்லாம் இனி எப்போ வருவாங்கன்னு தெரியலயே...

[app_engine]

http://www.dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=334761&disdate=5/10/2007

OK, BR is back in the story...

[Sanjeevi]

next

http://www.dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=334987&disdate=5/11/2007

[rajasaranam]

Raaja Poatta MaaruVaedam :)

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=335647&disdate=5/14/2007

[rajasaranam]

Getting close with Bharathiraja and his family

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=335850&disdate=5/15/2007

[app_engine]

Raja strikes a close cord to many of us in his description about BR's mom...Apart from his phenomical musical capabilities, his "eeramAna manasu" is probably one reason for the emotional appeal of his music...

[ponsingh]

Somebody pls paste the link for 16-05-2007

[app_engine]

ராசாவைக்கவர்ந்த எம் எஸ் வி பாடல்கள்...
http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=336098&disdate=5/16/2007

எம் எஸ் வி ரசித்த ராசா நிகழ்ச்சி:
http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=336316&disdate=5/17/2007

[app_engine]

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=336552&disdate=5/18/2007

has some really interesting tidbits...

[rajasaranam]

Rasaiah becoming raaja and induction into WCM
http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=337256&disdate=5/21/2007

[rajdes]

RS/A_E: Wonmderful job!Thanks for the links. Some of the earlier links lead to blank pages. Could someone summarise the contents of the earlier ones like 1)Paavalrodu Kacheri anubavangal 2) BR Intro 3)Harmonimu thottadhal annanidam adi 4)Br-odu oor sutral parts?

[app_engine]

Intro to GKV...

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=337495&disdate=5/22/2007

[app_engine]

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=337660&disdate=5/23/2007

Raja starts working with GKV...This is a nice article which shows that initially he couldn't write down even the notes (let alone in notation), though he had a "tape-recorderic" memory. Another aspect in which he can be compared to nadigar thilagam who supposedly had a photographic memory...

[app_engine]

http://www.tfmpage.com/my/md/gkvsara.html

An interesting write-up on GKV, with some song links.

As confirmed by the above article, IR didn't do `thEn sindhudhE vAnam'. However, I remember reading in another article, may be on Muthulingam, that IR helped compose the folk number 'thanjAvooru seemaiyilE' in the same movie 'ponnukku thanga manasu'...

(another trivia is the chain of song starter lines used as movie titles:
...lakshmi kalyANam-rAman eththanai rAmanadi-(ammAdi) poNNukkuththanga manasu-thEn sindhudhE vAnam-unnidam mayangukiREn...)

[Sanjeevi]

Bharathi raja becomes Director

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=337927&disdate=5/24/2007

[Sanjeevi]

.This is a nice article which shows that initially he couldn't write down even the notes (let alone in notation), though he had a "tape-recorderic" memory. Another aspect in which he can be compared to nadigar thilagam who supposedly had a photographic memory...

yes the best part so far

[Nakeeran]

http://www.tfmpage.com/my/md/gkvsara.html

An interesting write-up on GKV, with some song links.

As confirmed by the above article, IR didn't do `thEn sindhudhE vAnam'. However, I remember reading in another article, may be on Muthulingam, that IR helped compose the folk number 'thanjAvooru seemaiyilE' in the same movie 'ponnukku thanga manasu'...

(another trivia is the chain of song starter lines used as movie titles:
...lakshmi kalyANam-rAman eththanai rAmanadi-(ammAdi) poNNukkuththanga manasu-thEn sindhudhE vAnam-unnidam mayangukiREn...)

With due respects to Mr. GKV, the composing style resembles that of IR ! Especially the ludes arrangement.

[app_engine]

Bet with BR:
http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=338084&disdate=5/25/2007


Raja passing WCM exams:
http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=338803&disdate=5/28/2007

Escape from a car rollover (along with SPB):
http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=339104&disdate=5/29/2007

Missed movie opportunities:
http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=339261&disdate=5/30/2007

[rajasaranam]

Thanks AE on the updates :)

rajdes,

The links are dead but i had the habit of saving the pages as html in my system :) i will try uploading it in some fashion and let you know

[swathy]

thks AE

[vigneshram]

Raja speaks high of A.R.Rahman's father and his musical talents. Says that its his father's blessings that Rahman is a successful MD.

So nice of Raja to appreciate and acknowledge past MD's talents

[Sanjeevi]

Maanaseka Guru C.R.Subraman

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=339487&disdate=5/31/2007

[app_engine]

Ridicules always help talented people...

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=339637&disdate=6/1/2007

[Vkrish]

Any recent Links on these articles??? :roll:

[app_engine]

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=340666&disdate=6/6/2007
http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=340874&disdate=6/7/2007
http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=341080&disdate=6/8/2007
http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=341733&disdate=6/11/2007
http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=342002&disdate=6/12/2007

enough'A?:-)

[swathy]

Thks AE :D

[app_engine]

Finally, here comes annakkiLi:-)

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=342198&disdate=6/13/2007

[rajasaranam]

The missing links for 4th and 5 th june are here
http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=340309&disdate=6/4/2007
http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=340511&disdate=6/5/2007

[raajarasigan]

First day recording of Annakkili

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=342445&disdate=6/14/2007

[raajarasigan]

Annakkili songs and movie Superhit

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=342607&disdate=6/15/2007

[thumburu]

IR comes across as hyper sensitive and also childish which sometimes is annoying . So what personal grouse led IR not to use SPB for almost a decade? Atleast SPB's golden singing could have given the much needed respite from the weak tunes and weaker orchestration he dishes out these days.

[ganspb]

IR gave most of the songs to SPB and KJY in the 80s, and latter when a new trend by ARR emerged of mixing multiple singers instead of the montous popular singers it became a hit. People then started criticized IR for not giving chance to others except SPB and KJY.Now even if we assume that he got that corrected and followed the Trend created by ARR by giving chance to all then also he is criticised.

Idhu Dhan Ulagam.

[swathy]

THANKS AE,RAJASARANAM and RAJARASIGAN

[Kupps]

:lol: Oh! adhunaala thaan IR oru paattukku kooda SPB-ya use paNNaalayO. cha enna koduma saravanan idhu munnaala pOnaalum kadikkaraa(i)nga pinnaala vandhaalum udhaikkara(i)nga. :)

it is fact IR is eccentric and as thumburu said childish. Could be annoying and irritating for many. no need to sugar coat it. Definitely there were a sizeable amount of songs wherein we all know IR could have used SPB and/or Chitra. I feel voice of KJY and to some extent voice of SJ has shown old age so no issues in not using KJY. But I feel a careful selection of song could have easily handed to SJ. But one nice thing is nowadays IR seems to have realised his mistake of overuse of Bhava and is relying on far better voice Shreya Goshal.

Despite all these short comings wherein I dont have problem in admitting IR's behaviour, I yearn for his music. Cheeni Kum is a fodder for my hunger. A beautiful presentation from IR. Wonderful non-jarring synth orchestration by IR. Thanks to Balki. hmm...indha IR-Balki association innamum eththanai naaLO :(

IR-kooda ippa sEra pOradhaa pEsapadura drained down, yester-year greats-naala IR will not be dishing out even a cheeni kum. This include, BR, KB, BM (no seperation here but just a mentioning).

hmm...my wish list includes, in the top, a Hamsadhwani/Mohanam/Hindolam duet by Chitra and Shreya with some meaningful lyrics by Thamarai, with rich vintage IR kind of non-synth mind blowing orchestration. Nadakkuma :(

sari thinnai kizhavan maadhiri naan pulambi enna payan. let me rewind and listen to cheeni kum from MIL once again.

[app_engine]

Kavingar writes 'vA rAjA vA' in pAlootti vaLartha kiLi:-)
http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=343207&disdate=6/18/2007

[app_engine]

struggle to record 'oru nAL, unnOdu oru nAL'...
http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=343405&disdate=6/19/2007

In another thread someone is crying about IR's professionalism (obviously confusing it with business sense / "konjam adjust pannikkO" etc.)...I think this article is a nice pointer to the facts otherwise...

[raajarasigan]

IR with AVM
http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=343631&disdate=6/20/2007

[app_engine]

I'm not sure which AVM movie IR did prior to murattukkALai...actually, they weren't producing for a while and murattukkALai was after a reasonable gap...

I used to think that 'kEttELE ingE' was IR's 2nd biggest hit...now I know there had been many prior to that...may be during those radio days, i.e. even after annakkiLi, not many listeners cared about who the MD was...probably 'poovizhi vAsalil yAradi vandhadhu' got registered as a Shivaji song at that time and later recognized and identified more with IR than Shivaji...

Though IR's name became well known with annakkiLi, it looks like the industry took time to recognize the talent...and so were the average listeners...they didn't wait biting their nails for next release of IR...all that they cared those days was whether the song was good or bad...no hyped publicity for music...(for that matter, even movies - save a few from MGR, rarely a film had too much pre-release hype, so there had to be some measure of merit if the movie collected money at BO)...

[raajarasigan]

Here comes "16 Vayathinile"

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=343855&disdate=6/21/2007

[app_engine]

What is that song he is talking about...is it 'sevvanthippoo mudichcha sellakkA'?...

[doraip]

I believe its "Aatukuti Muttai Yettu"

[Sanjeevi]

And which song went to Kavikuyil???

Was it "Chinna Kannan Azhaikiran" or "Kuyilae Kavi Kuyilae"?

[app_engine]

Sanjeevi, abAram...try singing 'Attukkutti' in 'chinnakkaNNan' tune:-)

[raajarasigan]

Malaysia Vasudevan instead of SPB in 16 vayathinile

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=344083&disdate=6/22/2007

[thumburu]

I feel it could be "kuyile kavikuyile" vs "xhendura poove" with both the songs searching for that elusive Prince charming

[Nakeeran]

I feel it could be "kuyile kavikuyile" vs "xhendura poove" with both the songs searching for that elusive Prince charming

Though Kuyile kavi kuyile is trademark IR signature, I will vote for Sendhoorapoove , being class apart. Folk in western .
Awesome orchestration especially the chords & the bass . Damn sure, the audience would have had a big surprise then !

[doraip]

Can someone post the articles for the month of May. I believe the links are defunct. I missed some good stuff on the earlier part.

[app_engine]

thumburu,
I think Raja has confirmed it as 'sevvandhippoo mudichcha sellakka'...it may correspond to 'udhayam varukindRadhu' in kavikkuyil...

[app_engine]

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=344757&disdate=6/25/2007

OK, this should clear up another unpopular misconception that IR does not acknowledge the contribution of others...he is not a team player etc...konjam idhaippadinga...

IMHO, in human relations, he looks like an average person...nothing close to what DFers often picture him to be...

[Nakeeran]

App engine Sir

The link doesnt go beyond a week !

For newcomers, how will they view the older ones ?

I am not able to view the may links

[Plum]

app_engine, appadiyellam solla koodadhu. IR is arrogant, thimiru pudichavaru, mathavanga ellam ropmba nallavanga appadinnu ivlo varushama kashtapattu inge image urvakkiyriurkkom. Ipapdi ellam link kaatti, adhai matha koodadhu. ARR dhaan team-ku respect kudupparu, IR appadi ellam pannadhe illai. Idhellam puruda.Namba mattom. Naanga enga mind-la create pani irukkara image dhaan nijam. nijam-lam nijam kedayadhu
- on behalf of IR detractors, who have worked hard to estblish IR's arrogant image here.

[Sanjeevi]

Hats off to Dailythanthi (Dinathanthi) :clap: :clap:

What a wonderful series. Many of the news i have not heard before and almost all of them immensely interesting. Not only informations, the published photos are simply superb especially the young pictures of legends. For instance, I've not seen any S.Janaki's young photo before this one. :notworthy:

[raja_fan]

"Isaiyil yaaraavadhu maatram sonnaal, enakku thaarumaaraaga kobam varum "

This is the check point that God fixed for IR...:(
Otherwise almost all young and old directors would have been on his side now !

But "Kobam irukkum idathil thaan gunam iruukum". True. It needs some extra maturity to understand these kind of personalities and work with them.

Hats off to IR's frankness :)

[app_engine]

Nakkeeran,
I believe our friend rajasaranam has saved all those articles in his machine, i.e. at the time they appear and has promised to upload later in some form...(may be once the series ends in a few weeks or so)...At that time you can probably read them all in one shot:-)

[Nakeeran]

Nakkeeran,
I believe our friend rajasaranam has saved all those articles in his machine, i.e. at the time they appear and has promised to upload later in some form...(may be once the series ends in a few weeks or so)...At that time you can probably read them all in one shot:-)

Ok thanks . :)

RS, will U pls create an archive in page 1 of this thread with links frozen .

[app_engine]

It's getting quite interesting now...

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=345031&disdate=6/26/2007

IR is using superlatives to praise BR...

[rajasaranam]

A_E,

Bhagyaraaj :lol:

Yeah sure I have saved all the pages as html in my PC. i will upload them after the series is complete :)

[raaja_rasigan]

IR with AVM
http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=343631&disdate=6/20/2007

<dig>

raajarasigan - yaarunga neenga... oru underscore "_" mattum illama enna madhiriye id use panradhu :D

<end dig>

For Monday - Friday, my day in office starts with varalaatru suvadugal in dailythanthi..... i'll just enjoy reading about IR.

Good job dhinathanthi 8-)

[app_engine]

rs:-)

I think Bhagyaraj did such acts on purpose, just to amuse people and catch attention...I really love his comic sense...he's an extremely brilliant character, with a strong sense of humor. Remember the climax of andha 7 nAtkaL...with some tense things going on, he'll make a casual remark about "beedi" which was hilarious...

[raaja_rasigan]

rs:-)

I think Bhagyaraj did such acts on purpose, just to amuse people and catch attention...I really love his comic sense...he's an extremely brilliant character, with a strong sense of humor. Remember the climax of andha 7 nAtkaL...with some tense things going on, he'll make a casual remark about "beedi" which was hilarious...

he made a simple climax into powerful one using his writing strength :)

[Nakeeran]

I think Bagyaraj also appears as a Village doctor in 16 vayadhinile !

[app_engine]

yes Nakkeran, he did such minor roles as vaiththiyar in 16 vayadhinilE, thOttakkAran in KPR (informing vazhi to Radhika) and restaurant waiter in SR (I think he gets killed by Kamal) before becoming the hero of pudhiya vArppugaL...kind of loud, still lovable actor...

I had a classmate who was a mad follower of him and we used to ridicule him all the time for his fanatism...Oh, those were the days!!!

[raajarasigan]

IR with AVM
http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=343631&disdate=6/20/2007

<dig>

raajarasigan - yaarunga neenga... oru underscore "_" mattum illama enna madhiriye id use panradhu :D

<end dig>

For Monday - Friday, my day in office starts with varalaatru suvadugal in dailythanthi..... i'll just enjoy reading about IR.

Good job dhinathanthi 8-)

Hi raaja_rasigan..

enakku naan ID create pandrappo neenga indha perla irukkarathu theriyathu...

naan indha forum varadhakku munnadi en yahoo signaturela pottu kittirundhen.. . appuram athe perla ID create pannitten...

just a coincidence... after all, we are HCIRF :D .

Nagu.

[app_engine]

chinnakkaNNan azhaikkiRAn...
http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=345257&disdate=6/27/2007

[raaja_rasigan]

just a coincidence... after all, we are HCIRF :D .

Nagu.

:yes:

:exactly:

:D

[raja_fan]

raja_rasigan and rajarasigan,

romba feeling-aa irukku !

Iru veru paadhaigalil pirindha aadugal meendum serndha podhu, pesa mudiya villaiye.........

:D

Naanum unga ID thaan , aanaa "fan" istead of "rasigan" !

[raaja_rasigan]

raja_rasigan and rajarasigan,

romba feeling-aa irukku !

Iru veru paadhaigalil pirindha aadugal meendum serndha podhu, pesa mudiya villaiye.........

:D

Naanum unga ID thaan , aanaa "fan" istead of "rasigan" !

:D

Aadu ennaikku pesi irukku .... JK :D

[Nakeeran]

Digression :

Unga rendu perla yaar Puratchi kalainar rasigar / fan !

[ajaybaskar]

Hope u guys have seen the movie 'mayavi' starring Surya. In on particular scene where surya kidnaps Jothika, She will be dancing for a old IR number. Wat is that song? Which film?

(Sorry, if i had posted it in the wrong thread. Dunno where to post)

[raja_fan]

ajaybaskar,

The song is "Meen kodi theril" from the
movie "Karumbu Vil". Song sung by KJY.

[app_engine]

Chinnakkannan:
http://ww.smashits.com/music/tamil/songs/2641/kavikuyil.html

Lyric:
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/lr/26/2234/

[ajaybaskar]

ajaybaskar,

The song is "Meen kodi theril" from the
movie "Karumbu Vil". Song sung by KJY.

Thanks RR. Very kind of u..:D

[rajasaranam]

'Counter Point' galin thodakkam :)
http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=345425&disdate=6/28/2007

Anybody has the link to 'Naan Pesa Vanthen' Please post here

[raja_fan]

ajaybaskar,

RR ? yaar adhu ? :)

[ajaybaskar]

ajaybaskar,

RR ? yaar adhu ? :)

Sorry RF. I thought it was raja rasigan..

[app_engine]

nAn pEsa vandhEn link:
http://www.dhool.com/sotd2/219.html

rs, kaiyyil veNNei vaiththukkoNdu neikku alaiyalAmA?:-)

[raaja_rasigan]

Digression :

Unga rendu perla yaar Puratchi kalainar rasigar / fan !

<dig>
naandha adhu... :D

with underscore "_"

<end dig>

[Sanjeevi]

raja rasigargalae perisa kuzhappathengappa, signature-la yavathu unga name pottu differentiate pannungappa kannungala :)

[Sanjeevi]

Saw a programme called "Hasini pesum padam" by Suhasini at Jeya TV today. The show was good and she reviewed cheeni kum. Amitabh and Tabu participated over phone and praised the music & IR a lot.

Anybody watched the same?

[raja_fan]

Sanjeevi,

Is it ?

Who praised IR ? Suhasini or Amitabh, Tabu ?

What did they tell about IR ?

[app_engine]

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=345698&disdate=6/29/2007

en kaNmaNi un kAdhali...

[app_engine]

raja_fan,
I haven't watched the program...but I guess it must be Mrs MR...she is a big IR admirer and seizes every opportunity to praise him...chummAvA...to this date one of the best scores ever in TFM is for her by Raja, illayA? (sindhu...)

[app_engine]

After watching SB during college days when it got released, after >20 years, I watched it again on DVD a few days back...what a great movie, incomparable! I still remember me not liking the movie much when released...in fact when MSV's once d-i-l (adhu dhAnga, Sulakshana) chases her out, all of us roared 'pOdee' in the theater...now I realise how much immature we were at that time...

One of the best ever performances by any actress in TF...those days I questioned why they gave her NA, now I 200% agree with them...pAdaRiyEn oru pAttu scene mattum pOdhum...

[app_engine]

BTW, one doubt in SB...when she sings 'nee dhayavillaiyA' to JKB (he presents her with ring at the end of this singing), who is the playback singer? It sounds like PS...definitely not KSC...is that song on the disc / cassette? credits whom...

[thamizhvaanan]

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=345698&disdate=6/29/2007

en kaNmaNi un kAdhali...

Can someone give the link to the song mentioned in this article?

I vaguely remember having seen it on TV. I think sivakumar was the lead :roll: . Quite frankly, I remember only "indhaama karuvaatu kooda, munnadi po" portion of the visuals :oops: :lol: . I would love to listen to the song once again :D

Rajasaranam, waiting for u to host the old pages :D ... even the archive photos makes a good collection :thumbsup:

[ajaybaskar]

Sanjeevi,

Is it ?

Who praised IR ? Suhasini or Amitabh, Tabu ?

What did they tell about IR ?

Both Amitabh and Tabu praised IR. Tabu said it was a great experience working for a film composed by IR. Big B said that IR and PC r gods of Music and Cinematography. He also quoted on the symphony experiences of IR.

[raja_fan]

app_engine,

Unga baashai enakku puriyalai...:confused2:

Can you explain what you try to say by

"...in fact when MSV's once d-i-l (adhu dhAnga, Sulakshana)"

Also what is "why they gave her NA" ?

[Sanjeevi]

Sanjeevi,

Is it ?

Who praised IR ? Suhasini or Amitabh, Tabu ?

What did they tell about IR ?

Both Amitabh and Tabu praised IR. Tabu said it was a great experience working for a film composed by IR. Big B said that IR and PC r gods of Music and Cinematography. He also quoted on the symphony experiences of IR.

Moreover, Tabu said that "Mouna Ragam" is one of her all time favourite album (wondering how? :roll:). Amitabh too told, "I am just cried" for IR music :)

[Sanjeevi]

IR has mentioned about Mookambika kannada songs. Anybody listened?

[selvakumar]

Is anyone collecting those pages in DAILYTHANTHI?
I missed the pages when they started the series with MGR !
would be better if someone SCANS the actual pages and keep a copy of them !

[raja_fan]

Sanjeevi,

Do you mean Amitabh told "I cried after listening to IR's music in Cheeni Kum " ?

[app_engine]

OK, r_f, I'll expand the abbreviations below; however, to totally understand you should have watched sindhubhairavi and must remember at least the overall story, if not scene by scene...

MSV : M S Viswanathan avargaL, the evergreen mellisai mannar

d-i-l : daughter in law, b-i-l : brother in law etc.
(Actress Sulakshana was married to MSV's son who used to be a film producer, at some point of time...I think they got divorced...don't know for sure...she plays the role of the wife of the ace musician JKB, with name "Bhairavi" in this film...Suhasini plays "Sindhu" with whom JKB will have an extra-marital affair...Sivakumar gave a stellar performance as JKB, probably his career best)

NA : national award, I think Suhasini got NA for SindhuBhairavi along with IR, KJY and KSC...

[raja_fan]

app_engine,

Appaadaa ! Sulakshana-nu solrathukku bathila neenga yen ippadi suthi valaichu oru kadhaiye solli mudicheenga-nu theriyalai :)

I know "Sindhu", JKB etc..but was wondering why MSV came there..

but NA for National Award..konjam over thaan :)

[app_engine]

r_f:-)

adhu dhAnga, Sulakshana'nnu solli irukkEnE...

...suththi vaLaikkAma eppadi DF'il kAlam thaLLuvadhu? vAsikkavum discuss paNNavum EdhAvadhu vENdAmA?:-)

[Nakeeran]

All said & done, IMO, KB totally spoilt the picturisation for Pudhu pudhu arthangal.

All the wonderful songs of raja messed up especially Guruvayoorappa . Horrible

[Shankar]

Coming to the Raja-KB tussle....vasanth had captured some of it beautifully in poovellAm kEttuppAr. Vijaykumar's character however, is a mix of MSV & Raja as the base of the story is MSV-TKR fight where as the TKR becoming independent is driven by Raja-KB fight.
I was expecting vasanth to support the KB case as he was from KB camp :-)

[Shankar]

>>>>
TKR becoming independent is driven by Raja-KB fight.
<<<<

In the movie, that is :-)

[rajasaranam]

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=345698&disdate=6/29/2007

en kaNmaNi un kAdhali...

Can someone give the link to the song mentioned in this article?

I vaguely remember having seen it on TV. I think sivakumar was the lead :roll: . Quite frankly, I remember only "indhaama karuvaatu kooda, munnadi po" portion of the visuals :oops: :lol: . I would love to listen to the song once again :D

Rajasaranam, waiting for u to host the old pages :D ... even the archive photos makes a good collection :thumbsup:

here is En kanmani:
http://music.cooltoad.com/music/song.php?id=141679

[app_engine]

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=346354&disdate=7/2/2007

Intro of singer Sujatha when she was 10...'kAdhal Oviyum kaNdEn, kanavO, ninaivO...

[Sanjeevi]

Wov IR described about my one of all-time fav. song "Kadhal Oviyuam Kanden" song...

Distributors appavum ippadithan pola (or) eppavumae ippadithana?

[raajarasigan]

Saw a programme called "Hasini pesum padam" by Suhasini at Jeya TV today. The show was good and she reviewed cheeni kum. Amitabh and Tabu participated over phone and praised the music & IR a lot.

Anybody watched the same?

actually this program had two reviews.. first one was for 'Sivaji' with Vivek as SG.. donno how many of you noted this.. once Vivek came, Suhasini started like this...

"Enga appa (Charuhaasan) onnu solvaaru... 1980's la neriya padam release aagum.. ellarum avanga avanga velaiya sumaara than pannuvaanga.. aana oruthar mattum eppothum piramathama pannuvar.. avar yaarunna 'Ilaiyaraaja' :D "

no wonder she is an HCIRF...

sandhulaiyum "Sindhu" paadum IR pugazh...

Nagu.

[Sanjeevi]

Saw a programme called "Hasini pesum padam" by Suhasini at Jeya TV today. The show was good and she reviewed cheeni kum. Amitabh and Tabu participated over phone and praised the music & IR a lot.

Anybody watched the same?

actually this program had two reviews.. first one was for 'Sivaji' with Vivek as SG.. donno how many of you noted this.. once Vivek came, Suhasini started like this...

"Enga appa (Charuhaasan) onnu solvaaru... 1980's la neriya padam release aagum.. ellarum avanga avanga velaiya sumaara than pannuvaanga.. aana oruthar mattum eppothum piramathama pannuvar.. avar yaarunna 'Ilaiyaraaja' :D "

no wonder she is an HCIRF...

sandhulaiyum "Sindhu" paadum IR pugazh...

Nagu.

Yes, whenever he said IR's name, i saw "Paravasam" in her face

[raja_fan]

Suhasini should sit with Maniratnam and Ilayaraja and hold negotiations..If Mani refuses..,divorce :D

[Nakeeran]

Suhasini should sit with Maniratnam and Ilayaraja and hold negotiations..If Mani refuses..,divorce :D

:lol:

Andha alavukku avanga sacrifice seyyanumaa ! :shock:

[Sanjeevi]

Suhasini should sit with Maniratnam and Ilayaraja and hold negotiations..If Mani refuses..,divorce :D

them romba overu :lol:

[app_engine]

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=346576&disdate=7/3/2007

tussle between creative artists & businessmen...People should thank Raja for winning the game...otherwise, there won't be any MR or Shankar today...who can spend at their will (and not that of the producer)...

[kr]

If one remembers that period, this was the reason some of the top producers did not to continue to work with IR like K Balaji ( after Nalladhoru Kudumbam) and AVM ( after Murattu Kaalai). But IR won this round and they came back to him.

[rajasaranam]

A_E,

this character of Raja was attributed as egoism by some and it got blown up to greater proportions in later days, i always feel he is the man who is a perfect example for the song
"unnai arinthaal nee unnai arinthaal.....
thalai vanangamal nee vazhalaam" :)

[rajasaranam]

If one remembers that period, this was the reason some of the top producers did not to continue to work with IR like K Balaji ( after Nalladhoru Kudumbam) and AVM ( after Murattu Kaalai). But IR won this round and they came back to him.

But when they got the oppurtunity they stabbed him back!!! :(

[app_engine]

Seriously, IR was probably the first MD in south (I'm not sure about Bolly) to dictate terms to businessmen...he started all the things that ARR and others have cashed upon later, like royalty to musicians, share of audio rights for artists etc. We can even call him some kind of a pioneer in ensuring musicians getting something for their IP rights in TN...
(After all these things, some people today talk about IR not being a "professional" musician...)

[app_engine]

Interestingly, I never knew that IR scored for 'Bhairavi'...those days I used to think it was some S-G score...only after coming to TFM-DF I realised it's a Raja score...IMHO, it had nothing great from him...some average TMS songs...Is there any non-TMS song (something sweet) in that movie? All I remember are those 'kattappuLLa kuttappuLLa' and 'naNdoorudhu nariyoorudhu' which used to loudly play in the village occasions on horn speakers...

[Nakeeran]

Interestingly, I never knew that IR scored for 'Bhairavi'...those days I used to think it was some S-G score...only after coming to TFM-DF I realised it's a Raja score...IMHO, it had nothing great from him...some average TMS songs...Is there any non-TMS song (something sweet) in that movie? All I remember are those 'kattappuLLa kuttappuLLa' and 'naNdoorudhu nariyoorudhu' which used to loudly play in the village occasions on horn speakers...

Enna Sir ippadi cholliputeenga ! :shock:

Just on listening to the ludes of Nandoorudhu, U should instantly call it an IR compo !

[app_engine]

Nakkeeran, andha aLavukku appOdhu poRumai illai...the beginning itself used to turn me off and listen no further:-(

I would have possibly paid more attention (means waited till the interludes) if someone told those days it's a Raja score:-) Another reason is apart from those songs for Sivaji, I don't remember paying much attention to IR-TMS combo songs, though there had been a couple of good numbers... but mostly sOgappAttukkaL, not used to be my cup of tea during school days...

[raajarasigan]

IR's angry against his friend playing harmonium
http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=346734&disdate=7/4/2007

[Sanjeevi]

I don't remember paying much attention to IR-TMS combo songs, though there had been a couple of good numbers...

same here :wink:

As per Manisekaran's write-ups, TMS has insulted IR many times (one exapmle: in Malayasia). Here IR has praised TMS in this series and it is a proof that IR is getting maturity???. And I have one question. has IR blammed TMS ever? :roll:

PS : Even today, some hardcore MSV supporters don't give respect to IR. For instance, LRE in addition with TMS. Please correct me if I am wrong. :wink:

[raja_fan]

Yes !

TMS has insulted IR many times though I have never seen IR doing it back to TMS.

I do not think IR bad mouths anybody. He is just frank about his ideas . For example he did call the current trend as "Plastic music", "pop corn" etc, which were taken as pointing to ARR. But this is certainly not bad mouthing people, like calling them fools etc. IR is always mature in this sense :)

But TMS inspite of his great talent and career, was a fuming personality ( vayatherichal ).
Last time he was on Jaya TV , his comment was " MSV was a person who will extract the best out of a singer. Aanaal sila muttaalgal (?) avargalin harmonium pettiyil enna varugiradho adhaiyellaam nammai paada solvaargal"

On the other hand, LRE was a "midhappu" party. She really did not realize that IR was going to really rule the film music world. When IR approached her for Annakkili, she just rejected him saying "Indha pattikaataan ellaam music pottu naan adhukku paadanumaa ?" IR has told this in one of his old interviews to AIR.

Adhu dhaan IR LRE-kku aappu vaithaar. She was forced to confine herself to Mariamman songs later.

Since only P.S and S.J were open to new talents, they survived with IR.

[raaja_rasigan]

[tscii:a98ee2b067]‘உயிர்’ சங்கீதா ரெட்லைட் ஏரியா பெண்ணாக நடிக்கும் ‘தனம்’ படத்திற்கு இளையராஜா இசையமைக்கிறார். ‘இசைஞானி’, ‘மேஸ்ட்ரோ’ பட்டத்தோடு இந்தப் படத்தின் மூலம் இன்னொரு பட்டமும் டைட்டில் கார்டில் போட்டிருக்கிறார்கள். அது ‘இளையராஜா சுவாமிகள்’ (பொருத்தம்தான்)

:kumudam:[/tscii:a98ee2b067]

[Sanjeevi]

Yes !

TMS has insulted IR many times though I have never seen IR doing it back to TMS.

I do not think IR bad mouths anybody. He is just frank about his ideas . For example he did call the current trend as "Plastic music", "pop corn" etc, which were taken as pointing to ARR. But this is certainly not bad mouthing people, like calling them fools etc. IR is always mature in this sense :)

But TMS inspite of his great talent and career, was a fuming personality ( vayatherichal ).
Last time he was on Jaya TV , his comment was " MSV was a person who will extract the best out of a singer. Aanaal sila muttaalgal (?) avargalin harmonium pettiyil enna varugiradho adhaiyellaam nammai paada solvaargal"

On the other hand, LRE was a "midhappu" party. She really did not realize that IR was going to really rule the film music world. When IR approached her for Annakkili, she just rejected him saying "Indha pattikaataan ellaam music pottu naan adhukku paadanumaa ?" IR has told this in one of his old interviews to AIR.

Adhu dhaan IR LRE-kku aappu vaithaar. She was forced to confine herself to Mariamman songs later.

Since only P.S and S.J were open to new talents, they survived with IR.

Athuleyum S.Janaki, Ilaiyarajavin puthup puthu muyarchikalluku thool kodutha karanathinal avar P.Susila-vai vida athika vaipugal IR mulamaga pettrar. (same to SPB)

[ajaybaskar]

Yes !

TMS has insulted IR many times though I have never seen IR doing it back to TMS.

I do not think IR bad mouths anybody. He is just frank about his ideas . For example he did call the current trend as "Plastic music", "pop corn" etc, which were taken as pointing to ARR. But this is certainly not bad mouthing people, like calling them fools etc. IR is always mature in this sense :)

But TMS inspite of his great talent and career, was a fuming personality ( vayatherichal ).
Last time he was on Jaya TV , his comment was " MSV was a person who will extract the best out of a singer. Aanaal sila muttaalgal (?) avargalin harmonium pettiyil enna varugiradho adhaiyellaam nammai paada solvaargal"

On the other hand, LRE was a "midhappu" party. She really did not realize that IR was going to really rule the film music world. When IR approached her for Annakkili, she just rejected him saying "Indha pattikaataan ellaam music pottu naan adhukku paadanumaa ?" IR has told this in one of his old interviews to AIR.

Adhu dhaan IR LRE-kku aappu vaithaar. She was forced to confine herself to Mariamman songs later.

Since only P.S and S.J were open to new talents, they survived with IR.

Did these guys do this? Then its a shame on them. Kalaignanukku garvam thevaithaan. Adhukkaga ippadiya?

[thamizhvaanan]

yaaruba indha MD Ramani Sreedhar :?

If my understanding is correct, IR was not yet a craze among the mass.. I mean, Producers dare to look beyond IR inspite of his availability. Really looking forward to future episodes.

It is amazing how he can remember so many low profile films and their songs. RS, thanks for the song link... I remember listening to that "en kanmani" song :D. Now, can someone find any link for "sella pillai saravanan" from the film "pen janmam". Aayirakanakkana silirka veikkum tune'galai amaitha Raja'vukey silirka veikkum andha paatta kettey theeranum :mrgreen:

[Sanjeevi]

also Sugamo Ayiram from Thunai Iruppal Meenatchi link pls :)

[raaja_rasigan]

yaaruba indha MD Ramani Sreedhar :?



ரமணி (ரமணஸ்ரீதர்) இன்றைய நடிகர் ராகவேந்தர்

I think he should be that Ravi raghavendar who is a part of some visu films...... remember him who is sitting beside Rajini for the whole day during cauvery problem unnaviradham

[raajarasigan]

If I am right, he is Rajini's Machan.. (Latha's brother)

[raja_fan]

oru chinna paiyan school-lil nadandha vishayangalai petroridam solluvadhu pol olivu maraivu, kalla kabadamillaamal Raja thanadhu anubavangalai solgiraar..

Ivarai poi garvam pidithavar endru silar solluvadhu vedikkaiyaaga irukku :)

[buggle]

Folks i think Raghavender is the guy who acted in Sindhu Bhairavi as Suhasini step-father..( the guy who used to mimic like sivaji)
Also in SunTV paatuku paatu, Raghavender daugher(forgot her name) was the cheif guest...and GA said Raghavender and IR are good friends and they know each other for long time..
Maybe little contradicting though with the harmonium episode....
By the way i am eagerly waiting for tomorrow edition - why SJ cried??

[raja_fan]

buggle,

You should be right !

I also remember this guy in one of his interviews was all praise for MSV never mentioning IR's name. Innum kobam thaniyale polirukku :)

Also IR's description "thuru thuru - restless and noisy" suits this guy well.

Rajni's sahalai ( not machaan, I think ) is too young to be IR's friend in his earlier days.

[Vkrish]

By the way i am eagerly waiting for tomorrow edition - why SJ cried??

i guess this is "Matha Unn koilil..". which Purushothaman mentioned in his interview once in Aaha FM during the Rajaangham program. Puru said not only SJ but the entire orchestra were on tears during the recording session..

[buggle]

raja_fan,
Also another interesting thing is Raghavender daughter sang her favorite number from Thai Mookambikai - Isaiarasi - that too the SJ portion alone..she said every time she hear this song she get goosebumps...
Only after that i did searched for this song in cooltoad and then burnt in CD..and she was true, even i get goosebumps(everytime)when SJ start "AMMAAAAAAAAAA"

what a feeling...

Vkrish,
you might be right about 'Maatha un koil' - let's wait another few hours we will come to know

[raajarasigan]

SJ Cried
http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=346954&disdate=7/5/2007

[app_engine]

mmmm...'thaNNee karuththiruchchu' avvaLavu kashtmAna tunA? enga school pasangaLE avvaLavu nallAppAduvAngaLE...

May be once a singer has completed recording, it may be simpler for us to imitate. It may be much tougher to understand when the MD plays it in harmonium and connect the words and sing correctly...(nowadays, "track singer" endRu oruththar iruppadhAl prachnai illai)...

[app_engine]

some of Raja's references are quite interesting...

1. He uses the word 'theme song':-), like we all DF'ers use too...so it's an industry term...
2. His musings about Sridhar leaving MSV...

[Nakeeran]

some of Raja's references are quite interesting...

1. He uses the word 'theme song':-), like we all DF'ers use too...so it's an industry term...
2. His musings about Sridhar leaving MSV...

I think IR followed professional ethics in every aspect . How concerned he was for that MSV-Sridhar combo. then !
And his assessment of the thankless tamil cinema is also 100% correct ! He himself is facing what doubts he had when Sridhar approached him ! Sad.

[Sanjeevi]

I have some doubts and questions

1) will IR tell about his competitors such as SG, Chanrabose, TR, etc.?
2) will IR tell about his western mAnesEka gurus such as JS Bach, Mozart? When did he admire them?
3) will IR tell about his other language success stories such as kannada, malayalam, telugu and ofcourse hindi :cool:

[app_engine]

Sanjeevi,
From the direction that the series has taken so far, following are my GUESSES for your questions:

1. Definitely nothing will be said about SG, CB and TR. At the max, he may say some nice things about KR, YSR, Bhavadharini as a MD and then, may be ARR, in that order:-) There may be possibility of mentioning his erstwhile troup members such as Vidyasagar and Deva...

2. I think he has already mentioned something about Bach (whom he always talks about...In the Kumudam 'sangeethakkanavugaL' series, there was even a photograph of him telling 'en nAdha dEvan Bach')...In addition, he has acknowledged them in his serious musical works as HTNI, NBW - with even the names of certain tracks marking a tribute to these WCM gurus. So there is no explicit need in this dhinathanthi series (primarily meant for TN tea shops) that he "admires them" , IMO:-))There could be references here and there, may be more if he once again chooses to detail his Europe trip.

3. I'm sure other language ventures will be included (it won't be complete without sAgara sangamam aka salangai oli, that got him the 1st NA and the Telugu original of 'unnAl mudiyum thambi' that got his 3rd NA). However, with the direction it has been taking so far, there will be a lot of cleaning up of old gossips and correcting his image / explaining his behaviour etc (which is definitely good for him at this age)...So the opportunity for detailed accounts of his other language efforts -where he was relatively less controversial - is probably less (those are in any case decently chronicled in the media)...

Again these're my guesses, who knows, this man is always full of surprises:-)

[app_engine]

Having made those guesses, I have a couple of questions too:

1. Will he tell about what compelled him to rework BoneyM's Sunny for Panju, his mentor, for the film Priya?

2. While he talks a lot about creating tunes of his own -not even happy about SPB making fun of him with some MSV numbers that used the same scale as his new tune, will he explain why he simply copied a Hindi song into 'kanavu kANum vAzhkai yAvum', that too for a director like BM?

3. Which was recorded first - 'sO gayA' or 'kELadi, kaNmaNi'...if his is later, what compelled him to reuse a tune of L-P (who had a somewhat copy cat reputation...ofcourse not Anu Malik levels)...

4. Also about his recycles - like 'kuyilukkuppam' into 'thooLiyilE' etc...why they were done that way...

[sakthivel_cool]

1 help..can i get the audio of kamal,ilaiyaraja,director(?) discussing on a song..i think its guna..can sum1 upload dat? plz...

[app_engine]

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=347178&disdate=7/6/2007

nAn appavE sonnEnE, this varalAru has at least one main purpose , IR's confessions:-)

[Sanjeevi]

yes IR is a ratshasan while working :)

[Sanjeevi]

Again these're my guesses, who knows, this man is always full of surprises:-)
:exactly:



Having made those guesses, I have a couple of questions too:

1. Will he tell about what compelled him to rework BoneyM's Sunny for Panju, his mentor, for the film Priya?

2. While he talks a lot about creating tunes of his own -not even happy about SPB making fun of him with some MSV numbers that used the same scale as his new tune, will he explain why he simply copied a Hindi song into 'kanavu kANum vAzhkai yAvum', that too for a director like BM?

3. Which was recorded first - 'sO gayA' or 'kELadi, kaNmaNi'...if his is later, what compelled him to reuse a tune of L-P (who had a somewhat copy cat reputation...ofcourse not Anu Malik levels)...

4. Also about his recycles - like 'kuyilukkuppam' into 'thooLiyilE' etc...why they were done that way...


:notworthy:

I guess IR will come with some info about what you said. Remember, Kamal (and IR?) already mentioned about "Inji idupazhaki.

[Sanjeevi]

Guys this series is getting hot everyday. The interest rate is increasing. This man has fantastic biography. I guess, till date, there is no famous biography of a tamilian. Remember Gandhi's biograpy, it is toooo famous in the world. And I don't get remember, another Indian's biography at this time.

I guess, if IR will come with his biography later (after some years), definitely it will be treat to people especially tamils and will be best seller.

:bluejump:

[rajasaranam]

He is too innocent and a person who lives in the moment is what i always used to think. This series proves that beyond any doubt. :)

[raja_fan]

Yes Rajasaranam !

This also tells us the reasons why many directors parted ways with IR. Ellaam indha "Mun Kobam" thaan.

Also I think this is the reason why people like MR and Rajni still eager to work with him. Because they know that IR is not bad at heart inspite of his outbursts.

BR recently said "Avanudaiya weakness enakku thriyum..ennoda weakness avanukkum theriyum"

[rajasaranam]

Yes Rajasaranam !

This also tells us the reasons why many directors parted ways with IR. Ellaam indha "Mun Kobam" thaan.

Also I think this is the reason why people like MR and Rajni still eager to work with him. Because they know that IR is not bad at heart inspite of his outbursts.

BR recently said "Avanudaiya weakness enakku thriyum..ennoda weakness avanukkum theriyum"

aana namma thalaikku intha kobam thaniyarathukku romba naal oops.. varusham aaguthu athaan periya prachanai 8-)
BR kooda 1990 la kovam vanthu pirinjavaru 2007'la thaan samaathaanam aayirukaar hmmmm....

[app_engine]

Digression:
http://www.kumudam.com/magazine/Kumudam/2007-07-11/pg6.php

Another kuzhappam by BR...enga pAththAlum orE mAdhiri kadhaikaLA irukkE...I think VM is reading dhinathanthi regularly:-)

End-digression

[Sanjeevi]

expecting words from IR mouth about VR......

[rajasaranam]

Digression:
http://www.kumudam.com/magazine/Kumudam/2007-07-11/pg6.php

Another kuzhappam by BR...enga pAththAlum orE mAdhiri kadhaikaLA irukkE...I think VM is reading dhinathanthi regularly:-)

End-digression

Now that BR is joining hands with IR, VM has got all reasons to open up old episodes and bad mouth BR.
for all said and done i believe all these 3 IR-BR-VM are very emotional peoples and take decisions at the spur of the moment. previously when there was some attempt to bridge gap between VM-IR, VM said in the same kumudam interview that "engalukkul nadantha kasappaana sambavangalai marakka vaendum, vayathaanathil purigirathu naanum en sorkalaal avarai kaaya paduthi irukka koodum endru" hmmmm....
ippa enna vayasu korainji poiducha BR mela ippadi oru kutrachaattai avizhthu viduvatharkku??? athu unmaiye aanalum!!!

[app_engine]

Despite all his "irritable" behaviour to others in the film field (or in the music production in general, like the TbI venture), I haven't seen IR openly throwing mud on any individual in the press - except the only instance where he gave an interview to Junior Vikatan about the director of Periyar (that too probably because of the possible political / legal consequences like what happened to Khushboo / Suhasini etc.) And the Periyar crew never countered him, silently acknowledging the truth in his statements.

There would have been references like 'kuradunukku eppadi ovvoru thuLiyilum un mugham theriyum - enna pAttu ezhudhaRAnga'...'after Kannadasan nalla kavidhai illai' ...'ennidaththil varum eththanaiyO kuppaikaLukku isai amaiththukkoduththirukkiREn' etc, but still they were told as opinions in general without washing dirty linen in public...

I haven't read his books, but I doubt whether anywhere he would have cited episodes where someone doublecrossed him / ditched him / dumped him etc.

Even in this series, so far, he has been mostly acknowledging his own shortcomings -albeit with pride- and by and large not tarnishing the reputations of other personalities...hopefully it will continue in that way and he won't do any VM'ish act! (That reference to BR-Kamal by VM is such a childish -or may be cunning / crooked- thing to do in a popular magazine like Kumudam)...

[irir123]

guys - can anyone post the contents of that interview by Vairamuthu (where he has mentioned IR-Kamal-BR) ? I am not able to read the same on Kumudam site - thx

[Sanjeevi]

Long ago, one day - BR and VM

BR : I won't speak to Kamal now onwards
VM : why, what happened?
BR : Kamal has injured my heart. So I won't be friend with Kamal.
VM : If you don't want to talk with him, I will do the same just for you and the love between us.

VM did not touch Kamal after this incidents for long time.

after years
VM's calling bell was ringed, VM opened the door.
Two persons looked like best friends each other were standing outside. They were BR and Kamal.
VM upset

----

There is any unwritten agreement between BR and VM?. Naan avan kuda pesa matten, nee ivan kuda pesatha (BR against Kamal and hence VM against Kamal - VM against IR and hence BR against IR)

---

Anbe Sivam songs VM than ezhuthinar-nu ninaikuren

[crvenky]

The story so far ...

I have uploaded the PDF file containing all the episodes upto date here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/41667020/Maestro_Varalatru_Suvadugal.rar.html

[thamizhvaanan]

Venky

:ty: :ty: :ty: :ty: :ty: :ty: :ty: :ty:

[Shankar]

Having made those guesses, I have a couple of questions too:

1. Will he tell about what compelled him to rework BoneyM's Sunny for Panju, his mentor, for the film Priya?

2. While he talks a lot about creating tunes of his own -not even happy about SPB making fun of him with some MSV numbers that used the same scale as his new tune, will he explain why he simply copied a Hindi song into 'kanavu kANum vAzhkai yAvum', that too for a director like BM?

3. Which was recorded first - 'sO gayA' or 'kELadi, kaNmaNi'...if his is later, what compelled him to reuse a tune of L-P (who had a somewhat copy cat reputation...ofcourse not Anu Malik levels)...

4. Also about his recycles - like 'kuyilukkuppam' into 'thooLiyilE' etc...why they were done that way...

App,
The answer for your Qn2 was given by BM himself in an interview, when copying allegations were made. He said he insisted on using the same tune as "kasme vade" in neengaL kEttavai.

Another rumor that was popular around that time was Raja and K-A agreed to use each other's tune for "neele nile ambar (iLaya nila)" and "kasme vade (kanavu...)"

[tvsankar]

Dear Venky,
Thanks a lot for the service.... :D :bluejump: :redjump: :clap: :ty: :ty: :ty: :ty: :ty:

[Nakeeran]

The story so far ...

I have uploaded the PDF file containing all the episodes upto date here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/41667020/Maestro_Varalatru_Suvadugal.rar.html

thank u very much Crvenky :D One stop shop !

[app_engine]

Shankar:-)
I too have heard about BM insisting, the exchange story etc:-))Still want to know what the horse has to say...

[app_engine]

Thinking about 'kanavu kANum' again, it would have been nice if they had included, say the first two lines of the Hindi song followed by KJY singing (as if paying a tribute)...We won't cry 'COPY,COPY' then...

[app_engine]

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=347853&disdate=7/9/2007

A number of these episodes are hitherto unknown...(at least I don't remember reading about them)...

[Sanjeevi]

hahahah TMS and his kambEra voice. avaroda plus-um ithuthan minus-um ithuthan.

[rajasaranam]

the situation for 'Neramithu' is almost similar to 'Kadhoduthaan naan paaduven' from velli vizha. that song really captured the essence of the situation due the singing of LRE.

[buggle]

Well, today's varalatru suvadugal raised me couple of questions....

1. This is little surprising, IR saying Rishimoolam as the first Sivaji movie he worked, but Rishimoolam released in 1980 (as per raaja.com) whereas Naan Vaazha Vaipen released in 1979 also had Sivaji in the lead role..
2. Since IR already started discussing movies from 1980, he got other gems in 1979 which he didn't touch - like Aarulirunthu aruvathuvarai, Uthiri Pookal, Rosappo Ravikaikari, etc...
I bet these movies have something to talk about...

[Sanjeevi]

Well, today's varalatru suvadugal raised me couple of questions....

1. This is little surprising, IR saying Rishimoolam as the first Sivaji movie he worked, but Rishimoolam released in 1980 (as per raaja.com) whereas Naan Vaazha Vaipen released in 1979 also had Sivaji in the lead role..
2. Since IR already started discussing movies from 1980, he got other gems in 1979 which he didn't touch - like Aarulirunthu aruvathuvarai, Uthiri Pookal, Rosappo Ravikaikari, etc...
I bet these movies have something to talk about...

If IR will tell about his each n every films, sure dinathanthi will has another Sindupath

IR oru biography ezhuthinathal unga ethirparpu niraiveralam

[buggle]

Well, today's varalatru suvadugal raised me couple of questions....

1. This is little surprising, IR saying Rishimoolam as the first Sivaji movie he worked, but Rishimoolam released in 1980 (as per raaja.com) whereas Naan Vaazha Vaipen released in 1979 also had Sivaji in the lead role..
2. Since IR already started discussing movies from 1980, he got other gems in 1979 which he didn't touch - like Aarulirunthu aruvathuvarai, Uthiri Pookal, Rosappo Ravikaikari, etc...
I bet these movies have something to talk about...

If IR will tell about his each n every films, sure dinathanthi will has another Sindupath

IR oru biography ezhuthinathal unga ethirparpu niraiveralam

I think you didn't get me correctly...
I didn't say all movies..i mentioned only some of the unique ones
He did talk abt Bhairavi and Chitukuruvi in detail...

[app_engine]

buggle,
He mentioned earlier that 'dheepam' is his first movie with Sivaji and the second BO hit for him as MD after annakkiLi...

As he's still talking about KPR, we cannot conclude that he has jumped chronologically...possibly Rishi moolam got composed much earlier but released late...another thing is his mentioning of Mahendran as dialog writer for Rishi moolam and then moving on to muLLum malarum where he blossomed as a director...so, let's wait and see...who knows, uthirippookkaL may follow...

[app_engine]

And buggle, I read the article again and Raja does NOT mention rishi moolam as his first with Sivaji anywhere...

[app_engine]

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=348135&disdate=7/10/2007

Priya was recorded in KJY's "Tharangini" studio...not is Singapore as I used to think...(ellAppAttukkum KJY enbadhaRku idhuvum oru kAraNam)

[Sanjeevi]

IR will come with his success story in neighborhood states tomorrow as I expected :)

[rajasaranam]

The story so far ...

I have uploaded the PDF file containing all the episodes upto date here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/41667020/Maestro_Varalatru_Suvadugal.rar.html

Thanks! how did you do it :) I saved all files in html format and was wondering how to upload :(

[crvenky]

RS, I copy-pasted from the site onto a word doc and then wrote it using PDF editor.

[app_engine]

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=348354&disdate=7/11/2007

RDB could not match IR for sigappu rOjakkaL...

[Sanjeevi]

Wov IR tells about my all time fave two songs "Nallavarkellam satchigal rendu" and "Vasantha Kaala Kolangal"

Anyway one question, I heard that IR was born christian?. Is it true?. I think IR safely avoiding such kind of controversy. Remember he did not tell anything bad or his dissatisfaction against TMS eventhough TMS insulted IR before. This clearly shows he has great level of maturity atleast now.

[Ramakrishna]

Anyway one question, I heard that IR was born christian?. Is it true?

Yes.
I came to know this when this was asked as a question in KBC-2 on Star plus.

[Sanjeevi]

Anyway one question, I heard that IR was born christian?. Is it true?

Yes.
I came to know this when this was asked as a question in KBC-2 on Star plus.

Ennathu KBC-2 question-a ithu? quitely shcoked :o :cool:

Actually two possibilities

1) born hindu, next christian and then again hindu
or
2) born christian and then hindu

r u sure?

[Ramakrishna]

Anyway one question, I heard that IR was born christian?. Is it true?

Yes.
I came to know this when this was asked as a question in KBC-2 on Star plus.

Ennathu KBC-2 question-a ithu? quitely shcoked :o :cool:

Actually two possibilities

1) born hindu, next christian and then again hindu
or
2) born christian and then hindu

r u sure?

I am very sure, i saw this program myself when the question was asked.
They gave choices as IR, ARR, Sivamani ond one more for that question.

[raja_fan]

romba mukkiyam :banghead:

[irir123]

guys - am spellbound after reading the entire 185 page narration by IR! am aching for more!

[app_engine]

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=348502&disdate=7/12/2007

One statistical error here - 'niRam mARAdha pookkaL' was BR's 5th movie, and not the 4th...the 4th one was 'puthiya vArppugaL'...IR probably will definitely mention about 'thamthana namdhana thALam varum'...will have to wait and see...

Nice to read his appreciation for Sivaji...and 'iLamai enum poongAtRu' / 'engengO sellum en eNNangaL'...

I think IR's will be the longest of dhinathanthi series...one reason is his sheer volume of movies, with possible competition only from Manorama...but Achchi may not have significant contribution in many of them, and may not have so much of adventures...another reason could be 'ethai solvadhu, edhai viduvadhu?'...(there could be a third reason...vENdam, sonnAl udambukku nalladhu illai:-)

Anyways, this sindhubath is interesting...

[irir123]

app_engine: I dont have the fonts to read the article(s) - can you post it somewhere ? thx

[raja_fan]

I am eagerly awaiting his info about his relationships and tussle with Mani Ratnam, Rajni, his experiences after the entry of ARR etc..:)

[Sanjeevi]

ஒரு பரிசோதனை முயற்சி மக்களால் கவனிக்கப்படவில்லை என்று சொல்கிறார். இப்படி எத்தனை முயற்சிகள் கவனிக்கப்படாமல் போனதோ!!!

[Nakeeran]

ஒரு பரிசோதனை முயற்சி மக்களால் கவனிக்கப்படவில்லை என்று சொல்கிறார். இப்படி எத்தனை முயற்சிகள் கவனிக்கப்படாமல் போனதோ!!!

So many

By just using 3 swaras >>> SA RI GA, he has composed song .

[Plum]

Interestingly, he mentions Ponnu Ooriukku Pudhusu as a all-time pleasing album - then goes on to quote "Oram Po", "SaamaKozhi", "Unakenna Thane Innerama" - all lovely songs no doubt. But how come he missed the crowning glory of the album - Solaikuyilae? Is it from some other movie?

[Nakeeran]

Interestingly, he mentions Ponnu Ooriukku Pudhusu as a all-time pleasing album - then goes on to quote "Oram Po", "SaamaKozhi", "Unakenna Thane Innerama" - all lovely songs no doubt. But how come he missed the crowning glory of the album - Solaikuyilae? Is it from some other movie?

Yeah. Same movie only . SP Shailaja sang this .

[thumburu]

plum you mentioned exactly what I felt. I was surprised how Raja left out the best, evergreen song "Solai Kuyile" from "Ponnu oorukku pudhusu" . It is set to classical Madyamavathi raga . I cannot forget the accompanying mridhangam and lovely flute and violins in this song

[app_engine]

That he sang those other three may be just a coincidence:-)
(We probably know about this man's "self-worship"...just kidding...On a more serious thought, TbI is an example)...

[app_engine]

irir123,
You may want to download from this page:
http://dailythanthi.com/fontdown.htm

Save the font into the windows/fonts folder. Double click the font file at least once, to activate...(otherwise it does not work, for some reason)...

[dochu]

Can somebody help me out?

I joined this thread quite late. Wish to read all the articles, but the ones appeared in april/may issues of dailythanthi, does not show anything.

NOTE: there is no issues with my font. Everything is working. Just seeing blank pages with menu if I click those links from the thread.

Has somebody saved all the articles and can provide as a zip?

drb

[rajasaranam]

dochu,

Go to first page of the thread :)

[raajarasigan]

As expected, here comes "Pudhiya Vaarpugal"- IR wanted to try out different things

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=348741&disdate=7/13/2007

[app_engine]

sonna mAdhiriyE 'thamthana namdhana'...there's another error in this article - `enna pAttuppAda' is from a different film, sakkaLaththi. Probably he meant 'mAmEin oru nA malligappoo koduththAn'...

[yezhaithamizhan]

இந்த தொகுப்பை, Google Docs-ல், இட்டால் Download செய்ய தேவை இல்லாமல் அனைவரும் படிக்க இயலும். எனக்கு யாரேனும் இந்த அரிய தொகுப்பினை மின்மடலில் அனுப்பினால், நான் அவ்வாறு சேமித்து, அனைவருடனும் பகிர்ந்து கொள்ள தயாராக உள்ளேன். நன்றி.

Google Docs - http://docs.google.com
Some Google Docs Questions: http://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=37579&topic=8625
http://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=50085&topic=8625

[raja_fan]

http://www.itsdiff.com/Tamil.html ( Thanks Rajasaranam !)

There is a archived radio programme on SPB in the above link.

Heard the supposedly first song of SPB for IR. "Naan pesa vandhen.." from Paalootti valartha kili.

Surprisingly it sounded very much MSV or V.Kumar style.

[rajasaranam]

Thanks RR for making the thread Sticky :)

BTW the series suddenly jumping to national awards means some 4-5 years in between will be not accounted :(

[irir123]

I have this gut feeling that IR will not have much to say about the mid and late 80s, for that was when he was awfully busy, and may not remember as much as from the 1970s, when he was not doing that many movies and hence remembers everything!

[dochu]

Kodi puniyam!!!
For Rajasaranam and CRV? for uploading the articles.

The sticky 'pdf' link has articles until July 4, 07.

Luckily rest of the dailythanthi links were working and I was able to read it.
Daily thanthi link for june month and previous are all gone!! DT removed it.


under which section (menu link) in dailythanthi are you guys monitoring? I almost clicked every menu link but couldn't find the 'varalattru suvargal' link section.



Thanks again,

dochu

[raajarasigan]

under which section (menu link) in dailythanthi are you guys monitoring? I almost clicked every menu link but couldn't find the 'varalattru suvargal' link section.



Thanks again,

dochu

Follow these steps

1. http://dailythanthi.com/
2. Press 'Enter' icon in the screen (may not come sometimes)
3. you can see 'Maanila Seithigal' tab on top, click that.
4. You can see the link either at the top most or at the bottom (probably the last link) in that page

Hope you can get it now.... :)

[app_engine]

"perusungaLudaiya choisu":

http://www.hindu.com/fr/2007/07/13/stories/2007071350330100.htm

[buggle]

"perusungaLudaiya choisu":

http://www.hindu.com/fr/2007/07/13/stories/2007071350330100.htm

Except Balu Mahendra everyone picked "16 Vayathinale" as their favorite

[smss_engineer]

raja_fan
http://www.itsdiff.com/Tamil.html ( Thanks Rajasaranam !)

There is a archived radio programme on SPB in the above link.

Heard the supposedly first song of SPB for IR. "Naan pesa vandhen.." from Paalootti valartha kili.

Surprisingly it sounded very much MSV or V.Kumar style.


For me it sounds like Salil Choudry. especially the song "Naan ennum pozuthu" from Aziyaatha kolankal . I think Ilaiyaraja might have worked for Salil Choudry eventhough he became successive music director in his very first movie. But MSV touch also is there. oru velai , may be its an experimentation by IR to exactly identify his own unique style? :P


Also V.kumar is heavily inspired by Salil Choudry. I think Salil choudry is the next to MSV , role model for many music dirctors around 70's - Ilaiyaraja, V.kumar .........etc

I can trace "Ennodu paatu paadunkal (udhya geetham-1986)" song bits in this "Naan ennum pozuthu" by Salil Choudry

Anyhow, Palooti valartha kili song is really a treasure, very fresh even now! Guitar chords and bass is amazing.

I doudt, there is counterpoint by Guitar or piano in starting pallavi?

Simply breezing!

[smss_engineer]

I think Salil choudry is the only music director who doesn't have regional barriers in indian music history till now, though i haven't heard much of his hindi songs. but heard some Tamil and malayalam songs. They were good. But he lacks good orchestration as compared to ilaiyaraja.

Thats why Balamurali krishnan always saying " If there is only one Authority for Orchestration, then it will be Ilaiyaraja only"

No wonder if IR had his inspirations from him 8-)

[irir123]

smss - i dont think IR has been inspired by SC - the first time I had met IR (in person), he was all awe while speaking about MSV, Kamal, Madan Mohan, SD Burman, John Williams etc - while speaking about SC, he said "Priya recording podhu, mookkil viralai vaithhu vedikkai paarthhu vittu ponaar" - that does not sound like any inspiration!

[irir123]

my observation: never once does IR mention that he was desperate/badly wanted to compose music for movies - it all JUST HAPPENED! even his first movie ANNAKILI was OFFERED to him and he didnt ask for a chance to work/compose - if not for movies, he would have been quite happy learning music and playing as and when he pleased! that completely explains why he doesnt give/care a damn to anyone for anything

[isaiosai]

"perusungaLudaiya choisu":

http://www.hindu.com/fr/2007/07/13/stories/2007071350330100.htm

Except Balu Mahendra everyone picked "16 Vayathinale" as their favorite

Out of the 10 movies chosen by Mani Ratnam and Ameer, 5 have music by IR :wink:

[raja_fan]

Salil Choudhry had done good job in Madhumathi, Chemmeen and Anand etc. But apart from the hits, I do not think his music has any researchable or experimental elements like IR's music.

More importantly, Salil never had versatality in his compositions. He had only few patterns of tunes like present day HJ that he rotated again and again from Hindi to Malayalam and back.

[Vkrish]

Itz really amazing as to how could he manage to create an everlasting tune, write notes for orchestra, get the apt lyrics, rehearse and finish off the recordings, all in matter of few hours..
for great songs such as Vaan megangale, illamai ennum poongatru..etc. When i recollect the first and second interludes of vaan megangale, this itself looks like a long saranam !!

At one instance he said that he composed all five songs in a day...
i often amaze at his composing speed when going through these articles, and wonder comparing to this age scenarios.. :huh:

[smss_engineer]

Yes SC didn't make big as ilaiyaraja did quite easily. IR mentions all about MSV,kamal....etc often, but that song is clear inspiration from SC's "Naan ennum pozuthu".


And another thing,

common man, the man we are inspiring need not be a big icon! From whom we are inspiring is not imp. What we are inspiring is important

Its getting the idea thats all.

The same song is also inspired for udaya getham song And for V.kumar ---- > Unnidam mayankukiren etc.


Of coursr MSV is the real role model for many, Thats why i mentioned SC as next to MSV.


According to me, the path ilaiyaraja followed is exactly the SC's


Also SC is not inferior to MSV or SDB. Songs of MSV,SC,SDB will seem very simple at first listening. But if you look in depth, their tunes will be more complicated.

Salilda's music defies classifications and never follows a predictable format. His songs charm the listener with a first feeling of simplicity. But when you try to sing it; you realise the unusual musical twining and the complex composition. It is impossible to think of his tunes without accompaniments. The skilful use of obligato, the counter melody flowing around the main melody, is an unfailing attraction of his music.


I am sorry!

I never heard "Music Harmony" in any other MD's in india before Salil choudry and of course Ilaiyaraja!

[irir123]

smss: I never denied the stature of SC as a creative composer - he is an icon in his own way! but IMHO, IR was not inspired by SC

[aruvi]

To my knowledge, this was spoken by Director Muthuraman at IR's JayaTV concert, Ilayaraja's ambition was to be a film music director.

[smss_engineer]

Ok irir123,

Its nice to see the great characteristics of IR. His speech will end the mouths talking -he is an arrogant. Some of the people around him were indeed arrogant.

I already told in some tfm thread, that Many of ilaiyaraja's geniusness were not recognised :roll: . The reason also i mentioned- He was simply far ahead of his times.

He mentioned about mediocre/rare songs very proudly. So, everything is music for him. We people separates good or bad or pleasure tune or mediocre tune. But for him all are simply notes/swaras.

And I am going to start a thread about his musical elements, I welcome all of you to participate.

[app_engine]

http://www.dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=349430&disdate=7/16/2007

oru swArasyamAna kadhaippuththagam padikkum pOdhu, naduvil 100 pakkam kANAmal pOnadhu pOndRa uNarvu...why have they suddenly jumped to sAhara sangamam? payaNangal mudivadhillai, moonRAm piRai'yellAm kANOmE?...what happened? Looks like the next one is going to be late 80's venture too...

[thumburu]

Why this "Fast Forward" mode? What happened to "udhiri pookkal", "tik tik tik", "kadhal oviyam", "alaigai oyvadhillai", "nizhalgaL", "nenjathai kiLLaadhe" ," Nandu" and host of other unforgettables?

[raja_fan]

I believe Dhinathandhi would have come in to agreement with IR for a fixed number of episodes only.
Then they would interview IR , record everything and then give us the edited version.

We as IR fans may be interested in each and every detail, but if you look from business perspective the series would become too familiar if it goes like a Sindbad :)

But as I expected, IR clearly avoided any mention about VM.
After Sindu Bairavi, they never worked together. So IR has cleverly masked his relationships with Vairamuthu.

[app_engine]

http://www.dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=349648&disdate=7/17/2007

Nothing new in this....araichcha mAvu...I think the amount of time given by Raja to dhinathanthi got over...pudhiya vArppugaL varai Raja's experiences...after that they'll do a hasty conclusion...

[rajasaranam]

I dont think they are going to do a hasty conclusion. There are yet many more milestones from eighties and nineties too...
i think from hereon they will start collecting data from other sources and people and do a good job...I hope so :?

[app_engine]

rs,
Unfortunately, we have heard a lot from others in the past but very less from IR and that's why my enthu is kind of dampened...not that the series itself will be of less quality, it will definitely be a worthy read...but just won't be as interesting as those "IR versions" of stories, which will definitely be missed...It's onething to read what KB, KJY , Suhasini, Sivakumar or KSC has to say about sindhubhairavi...but altogether a different thing to hear from IR about 'pAdaRiyEn'...

Again, for now, it's only a guess that thanthi ran out of IR's appointment...who knows, they may still have some of his views...

[app_engine]

http://www.dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=349813&disdate=7/18/2007

ada, ada...dhinathanthi (& IR) back to form:-)

[rajasaranam]

A_E,

Romba kushi aayidaatheenga!!! Naalaikku London Symphony pathi vara poguthu, yaenthaan ippadi korangu mathiri thAvittu irukku thodarnnu thaan puriyala :(

[raja_fan]

Yesterday I was listening to 9-11 PM Raajaangham in Aahaa FM.

Bhagyaraj spoke about how he tried to independently score music for his own films ( should be films like "Idhu namma aalu" etc ) and then gave up realizing that it will take years for him to learn music properly. Also his family asked him to stop try music.

Then when he went back to meet IR, in his own words " Naan Rajavai paarkka ponen. Mudhalla konjam kobamaa serious-aa irundhaar. Apparam naan avar kitte sonnen :'AVM Saravanan sir solvaaru : Raja thaan No.1 . Avarukku aduthu 2,3,4 kooda yaarume kidayaadhu'nu. Naan no.5-aa irukkalaamnu nenaichu thaan try panninen. Adhellaam sari aagaadhunnu ippo unga kitte thirumbi vandhutten' . Apparam Raajaa sirichittu kadhai ketkka arambichittaaru. Andha padam thaan Raasukkutti."

This shows that IR would never like people who worked with him to go other ways ( even if they actually did not go to any other MD ) and then come back to him. :)

[rajasaranam]

raja_fan,

i have seen this happen only to Bhagyaraj whererein he was shuttling between composers and have managed to come back to Raja too :) he did many movies like Darling*3, mounageethangal, antha 7 naatkal, enga chinna rasa, sundaragandam etc., with other composers.

[irir123]

IR's open admittance that BM and MR are the only directors who stuck to the story narrated to him, is quite interesting and revealing - but IR's (in his own words "ketta gunam") habit of not doing music for someone who says he wont make the movie without his music, is IMHO very very very weird!! I just cannot undergo these most enigmatic, puzzling facets of this genius!

[irir123]

typo: read "I cannot undergo" as "I cannot understand"

[raja_fan]

irir123,

Adhu romba over thaan ! Kozhuppu endru sollalaam.

Indha maadhiri konangi gunathinaal thaan ippodhu nalla directors kidaikkaamal Raja "thannidam varum kuppaigalukkellaam" isai amaikka vendiyirukku :(

Also this episode hints that there is some cold war between IR and his brother GA.

IR vaayaal MR paer vandhirukkiradhu. So kobam avvalavaaga illai endru therigiradhu :)

[raja_fan]

Also I remember one thing now after reading that IR refused "Sigaram" even after begging of the director.

In Sigaram, Nizhalgal Ravi is a MD who is very jealous of SPB ( hero and also MD ). Nizhalgal Ravi's name is Gnanam.

Ravi will repeatedly tell a dialogue something like this "Avan (SPB) chance ellaam enakku varanum. Padathoda title-a 'Isai Gnanam'-nu varanum"

Now I understand what the director was hinting at :)

[irir123]

raja_fan: there is another thing I dont understand and I cant accept even if it comes from IR! : that he declined working on the tamil version of 'teesri manzil' only coz he felt he could not match RDB's output in TM!! that coming from IR sounds so hollow! knowing very well what he is capable of, also knowing what he knows of his own composing limits, I find it hard to believe that he refused that movie coz of THIS reason cited by him!!

also, can anyone give the name of that movie, which was Teesri manzil's remake in Tamil featuring Kamal and Sreedevi ?

[irir123]

i think at least in this case of the tamil version of TM, IR is hiding something else and giving something else as the reason!