Which is the last Bollywood film you saw ?

[MADDY]

Yeah, anyone who criticises aamir acting o madhavan's "natural" acting is maha paavi/visha kirumi/velaiyathava. Nice.

ada, edho oru blogger dhaan appadi sonnaaru-nnu nenachhu sollitten :lol: ........then i checked it was ur post in tamil films section :lol: .......


Aamir khjan has always been a great actor - including tum mere ho, mann, mela, love love love, deewana mujhsa nahin etc. Nadigar thilagathukkappuram ava dhaan. Sory NT avar kaal dhoosu pera maattar. Nt natural nadippu madhavanai paathu kathukkanum.
Ok-vA?

yen ivalavu reactions?? kamal have had bad films, really forgettable ones - does that make them a lesser actor?? indha bad examples kadha ellam othhukave mudiyadhu (IMO, only arr and koundar have very few bad examples)......

NT-a pathhi ellam inga pesi, u r doing a disservice to him - avalavudhaan solla mudiyum :)

[Nerd]

Koodal nagar ellAm examples of good acting. 3i - muyaRchi nadippu.

:lol2: :yessir:

And "muyarchi"??? I did not see any *efforts*. Good/bad is subjective, I agree but muyarchi?? which scene(s)?

[Plum]

Intro scenelEyE...thinking hard to fashion a.shock-therapy machine. Trying hard to look like a youngster. Like annotating every word written in the script, trying to emote every small reaction...nothing wrong with it but the effort shows.
Madhavan was better in that I do agree he came across as natural except for appearance, where he looked the oldest of the three, although I believe aamir's age lines were digitally erased to make him look younger(anybody's guess why same courtesy wasn't extended to maddy because the net effect was that maddy looked the oldest?maybe vanity in play on khan's part.)

The film itself suffers from shoddy writing (how many suicide references to drive home the point; a thousand similar urine and toilet jokes; thousand dropping the pant scenes), aged protagonists trying hard to look young a- sorry even the non chalant maddy looked more like a young professor - and as with hirani's previous movies, a dummy female protagonist.

When I read fps, cringed at a bad bollywood movie like script; when I heard that it was being made as 3i, was glad since I thought nobody can salvage a good screenplay out of that. Then the reviews made me think hirani might have dunnit afterall. But hirani has done the unbelievable of making bhagat look like a better writer. Ok, let this be hailed as a great movie - if bollywood standards can be lowered like this movie and become a hit, good. I like that. If a couple of bharadwaj and kashyap films flop now, the money bags will slowly bring bolly down to this level. I'll not be unhappy with that :-)

[kid-glove]

Aamir was such a 'bland' actor. I though he was going to be a Rishi kapoor. But fair play to him, he has become a good marketer for scripts and success. Yes, he takes scripts where he could be fairly 'natural'. Doesn't elevate him to be a big nadigar thilagam either. :lol:


Like annotating every word written in the script, trying to emote every small reaction...nothing wrong with it but the effort shows.
:thumbsup: I haven't seen 3 Idiots, but pretty much 'Aamir acting masterclass' for me. :lol:

[MADDY]

Intro scenelEyE...thinking hard to fashion a.shock-therapy machine. Trying hard to look like a youngster. Like annotating every word written in the script, trying to emote every small reaction...nothing wrong with it but the effort shows.

this can be told for any actor/many scenes :? .....to me, the scene was trying to be too smart and there was nothing much anyone can do abt it.....


although I believe aamir's age lines were digitally erased to make him look younger(anybody's guess why same courtesy wasn't extended to maddy because the net effect was that maddy looked the oldest?maybe vanity in play on khan's part.)

first of all u make a ridiculous assumption and then u confirm urself that it was "digital erasing"......then u go on to provoke maddy fans by asking why this "imaginary" digital erasing was not applied to Maddy.......honestly, u r impossible.....if u care to watch a couple of Aamir's interviews, he would appear the same as he appeared in the movie......if Maddy had come in like Guru's role, he would have looked apt.....but pray god, we had so many uncle figures in colleges - infact my best frnd was like that....


The film itself suffers from shoddy writing (how many suicide references to drive home the point; a thousand similar urine and toilet jokes; thousand dropping the pant scenes),

agree 100%.....i dont think even Nerd and me deny this......it is bad writing/characterisations/cliche filmmaking.....to me, masala movies is all about seizing the "caricaturized moments" and 3I did it with quite a lot of sucess in most scenes......


If a couple of bharadwaj and kashyap films flop now, the money bags will slowly bring bolly down to this level. I'll not be unhappy with that :-)

atlast, 3I makes u accept Kashyap is a good filmmaker.....hopefully "my name is khan" will make u accept Imtiaz as well....

Plum, i completely understand abt ur point on madhavan's role in 3I (not agree) but i have to vehemently disagree with other points.....


Yes, he takes scripts where he could be fairly 'natural'. Doesn't elevate him to be a big nadigar thilagam either.

he is not trying to be another nadigar thilagam (he can never be is another point).....i see a lot of "desperation" in trying to reduce Aamir khan in whatever he does.....i donno where the "insecurity" is flowing from......

[kid-glove]

Well, I can't take "rishi-kapoor-greatness' syndrome.

Since you tend to psychoanalyze my reactions/desperations, you may want to let me know where the insecurity is stemming from..

[MADDY]

Well, I can't take "rishi-kapoor-greatness' syndrome.

its convenience to club Rishi Kapoor and Aamir Khan in one umbrella......i can make equally astonishing equations but yea i have completed my quota long back :lol:

[MADDY]

Since you tend to psychoanalyze my reactions/desperations, you may want to let me know where the insecurity is stemming from..

sorry abt that but whatever u post abt Aamir seems to be telling "i dont like Aamir"....

[kid-glove]

I like Aamir. Extremely good actor, but doesn't deserve the hoopla. Needless to say, IMHO. I don't have to use 'imho' in all my posts because it is implied by default.

[Plum]

While Aamir has definitely outgrown Rishi Kapoorness, he obviously isnt a great actor by any definition. Infact, I have problems with Bhuvan *itself*.

As regards insecurity, the only one who gives me insecurity as a Kamal fan is Vishal B. But since I love Vishal from his days as composer(right from Maachis), this insecurity doesnt dissolve much into my system.

Aamir as an actor has to reach Bachchan first. He is definitely better than Saarug gaan but that surely does not warrant saying out. It is obvious.

Aamir as a film maker - and I can only laugh at Kamal haters who started trotting out "Kamal must learn from Aamir on film making" during TZP's succesful run - is still taking baby steps. Will be long before he causes insecurity as a film maker.

I wont blame 3I's shoddiness on Aamir, though. That credit must go to the overrated Rajkumar Hirani, who - blasphemy alert - helmed two above-average previous movies, which, unfortunately, got hyped as great ones. Aamir surely must have had his inputs but many of the problematic moments had a munnabhai touch in them so I suspect Hirani is the culprit.
(And what's with the endless urinating. Talk about pissing off the viewers!)

[Plum]

As regards Kashyap, my contention has always been that I am not much of a weld movies fan, and hence he leaves me cold, given that his strength, is apparently, channeling weld movies. It doesnt alter the fact that he is a significant player in raising the quality of Bollywood movies. Just not my cup of tea.

[kid-glove]

While Aamir has definitely outgrown Rishi Kapoorness, he obviously isnt a great actor by any definition. Infact, I have problems with Bhuvan *itself*.

As regards insecurity, the only one who gives me insecurity as a Kamal fan is Vishal B. But since I love Vishal from his days as composer(right from Maachis), this insecurity doesnt dissolve much into my system.

Aamir as an actor has to reach Bachchan first. He is definitely better than Saarug gaan but that surely does not warrant saying out. It is obvious.

Aamir as a film maker - and I can only laugh at Kamal haters who started trotting out "Kamal must learn from Aamir on film making" during TZP's succesful run - is still taking baby steps. Will be long before he causes insecurity as a film maker.

I wont blame 3I's shoddiness on Aamir, though. That credit must go to the overrated Rajkumar Hirani, who - blasphemy alert - helmed two above-average previous movies, which, unfortunately, got hyped as great ones. Aamir surely must have had his inputs but many of the problematic moments had a munnabhai touch in them so I suspect Hirani is the culprit.
(And what's with the endless urinating. Talk about pissing off the viewers!)

thanks for explaining it. I'm sure Maddy was of the assumption that I'm insecure of Aaamir khan because I happened to be a Kamal fan. :)

[P_R]

As someone who liked Munnabhai a lot and Lage Raho a little bit, my main charge against 3 idiots was that it was not funny. And almost every single thing that had a faint scent of humour was repeated till it became unfunny.

Now I wonder if much credit for the Munna movies should go to Sanjay Dutt and Arshad Warsi.

ek baar sorry bOla....seedhA jail :rotfl:

Not one line like that

Btw saw it in ega among a predominantly - insert racist epithet - crowd. The toilet humour brought down the house till even the very last repetition.

[Plum]

Btw saw it in Goregaon among a predominantly - insert racist epithet - crowd. The toilet humour brought down the house till even the very last repetition.

[P_R]

<To make amends for seeming holier than thouness I shall now proceed to give an example of 'class' in toilet humour>

GM has had a drink which was spiked for SR and is rushing to ease himself. SR stops him and questioning happens.

SR: எவ்வளவு மாத்திரை போட்ட ?
GM: <in distress> யோவ் எனக்கு இப்பொ ரெண்டுக்கு மேல எண்ணிக்கையே வர மாட்டேங்குது

[Plum]

P_R, Sanjay Dutt had an awful lot of credit to take on the Munnabhai movies. Essentially, his real life persona and intrigue blended well with the character, and that's the chief reason for those movies being enjoyable. Ofcourse, Warsi was irreplaceable in the circuit role - as Baradwaj Rangan observed, essentially Circuit has been bifurcated as Raju and Farhan here, and the actors here brought a completely different flavour to it, and clearly, they didnt bring in the same effect as Warsi; it didnt help that, with Rancho hogging the limelight, the writing also pushed them further into a baniyan size 42 role. I think only Srikanth in the telugu version came close to Warsi's spirit but Chiranjeevi and the writing in telugu werent up to the mark. So, yes, Munnabhai owes a lot to Dutt and Warsi.
(Infact, Lage Raho suffered from the same problems in writing - think of the Shergill and Dia Mirza and the final Abhishek Bachan sequences - but it got glossed over thanks to Warsi).

All said, it would have been tough to sit through 3I if not for Aamir, though.

[Plum]

<To make amends for seeming holier than thouness I shall now proceed to give an example of 'class' in toilet humour>

GM has had a drink which was spiked for SR and is rushing to ease himself. SR stops him and questioning happens.

SR: எவ்வளவு மாத்திரை போட்ட ?
GM: <in distress> யோவ் எனக்கு இப்பொ ரெண்டுக்கு மேல எண்ணிக்கையே வர மாட்டேங்குது

Exactly! adhukkellAm genius vENumpA!

[Plum]

Ok, things that I liked, although not much of a consolation:
1. The fact that Aamir's character was from north-east. Sadly, it never got any prominence, and even while parting, the director couldnt help a cheap shot with Kareena mouthing "I wouldnt want that surname after marriage". While one can understand that in the context of a name like Rannchod, with profane insinuations built in itself, the only objection to the north-eastern name could be that it is north-eastern.
2. The Dhokla missile joke. Although Kareena spoilt it with poor execution.


Kareena is another - ok I will put this gingerly - irritant. Did anyone else have the same moment as me - basically, when she walks towards Aamir in the climax, for a moment, I felt I had walked into a horror movie. That make up, that demeanour, that expression - chilling!

[MADDY]

Ok, things that I liked, although not much of a consolation:
1. The fact that Aamir's character was from north-east. Sadly, it never got any prominence, and even while parting, the director couldnt help a cheap shot with Kareena mouthing "I wouldnt want that surname after marriage". While one can understand that in the context of a name like Rannchod, with profane insinuations built in itself, the only objection to the north-eastern name could be that it is north-eastern.

:lol: to be fair wangudu too sounds funny........Plum, neenga Chathur Ramalingam mocking-a pudichhu ottuveengannu edhir paarthen......Chathur means intelligent in hindi - chathur naar bade hoshiyar days-a vittu varave maattangala?? :lol: ......

3 idiots good film ellam illa - infact it was contrived to bring a BO jackpot.......in that perspective, it achieved its objective......but yes, NOV kept saying something similar for Nadodigal which i didnt listen :P ....

[Plum]

Maddy, there was equal-opportunity regional bashing in this movie I think. Gujaratis facing the brunt. I guess Hirani must be Gujarati(or Sindhi?) himself.
The Ramalingam angle didnt bother me much. There wasnt much faux-tamilness(the typical bolly faux tamilness) in the execution of that character on screen. Not as bad as enna rascala. One has to grant the director that much

[equanimus]

While Aamir has definitely outgrown Rishi Kapoorness
Plum,
Luck By Chance pAththAchchA? Super performance 'nga!

[Plum]

While Aamir has definitely outgrown Rishi Kapoorness
Plum,
Luck By Chance pAththAchchA? Super performance 'nga!

Alai Paayuthae Madhavan: Enakku un mEla Love illai etc etc. AnA idhelLAm nadandhudumOnnu bayama irukku

idhukkAgavE LBC pArkalai :lol:
BTW, Rishi Kapoor seems a phenom with certain Bolly fans. There are a sizeable number of people who *really believe* that he is a great actor. There was a movie called Chintuji last year with Rishi playing lead. Apparently offbeat. His army of fans is now trying to promote it as the best of last year, most under appreciated etc.

[Plum]

BTW, "sivappu Cheran" Farhan Akthar patri inge irukkum madhippirukriya bolly fans karuthu enna?

[equanimus]

I thought Rishi Kapoor was brilliant in Luck By Chance. (And yes, heard good things about Chintuji too.)

And, by the way, I enjoyed '3 Idiots.' Went in with moderate expectations (thanks to the mushy and preachy 'Lage Raho Munnabhai'). But I agree with PR to the extent that I didn't find it as funny as the Munnabhai films. (My problem with Lage Raho was only with its strong dose of saccharine, pretentious message. Otherwise it was mighty funny when it wanted to be.)

[Plum]

Koot. LRM was funny alright. Even the message wasnt a problem but the way it was hammered in...only thing is very few people noticed the pretentiousness, the ordinaryness of the way the message was hammered in. With 3 Idiots, that is happening.

BTW, there is this whole credit for writing issue going on between Bhagat and VVC/Hirani/Aamir. I think I sympathise with Bhagat - most of the material for the movie came from his book, and his relegation to credits behind junior artistes is not fair. The claim that only 2-5% of the movie is from the book is laughable.
I'd go so far as to say that some of the better enjoyable moments were from the book *only* - something I didnt expect at all I would say when I walked into the movie.

[P_R]

BTW, "sivappu Cheran" Farhan Akthar patri inge irukkum madhippirukriya bolly fans karuthu enna?
Nothing to complain about in Luck by Chance and Rock On.
Sivappu Cheran title rejeetted.

[Plum]

Even in LRM, there were some moments where the message giving wasnt a problem - like the initial portions where Dutt barges into the business man's office - the one who mistreats his father - and hangs him upside down from the terrace to drive home his homily. That was funny and the message wasnt a problem in that scene. But as it wore on, it got on one's nerves with the gandhigiri message. One major difference was Boman Irani was fantastic in that movie while in this movie, he is reduced to a caricature.

[Plum]

BTW, "sivappu Cheran" Farhan Akthar patri inge irukkum madhippirukriya bolly fans karuthu enna?
Nothing to complain about in Luck by Chance and Rock On.
Sivappu Cheran title rejeetted.

You mean his acting is tolerable?

[equanimus]

BTW, "sivappu Cheran" Farhan Akthar patri inge irukkum madhippirukriya bolly fans karuthu enna?
I think I like Dil Chahta Hai more than any of Cheran's films, but Akhtar has made just two more films since, and none half as good. (Though I thought Lakshya too was quite good back when it came out.)

And, uh... I thought he was good in Luck By Chance too.

[Plum]

equa, not as a film maker. I sort of was okay with Lakshya although DCH didnt strike much of a chord. As an actor?

[equanimus]

Even the message wasnt a problem but the way it was hammered in...only thing is very few people noticed the pretentiousness, the ordinaryness of the way the message was hammered in. With 3 Idiots, that is happening.
Exactly what I thought reading some of the negative/so-so reviews the film has got. It seemed like they've woken up late to Hirani's ways of ramming a sugary feel-good message down the audience's throat.

[equanimus]

[tscii:e85dfaf27c]
As an actor?
PR sonnA mAdhiri, nothing to complain about. Heck, I liked him in LBC!

although DCH didnt strike much of a chord.
With regard to "striking a chord," I too didn't connect at all to the über-yuppieness of the trio of the film. I say this because it is often cited as one of the foremost reasons for celebrating it. But there's a sense of relaxed atmosphere in the film that was so fresh and was something a wider range of urban audience could connect to in some sense. And of course, beyond all that, I think it's a very well written film.[/tscii:e85dfaf27c]

[Plum]

Ok, LBC vaaippu kedaichA pArkarEn. Hmm.. I dread the day when Rishi Kapoor becomes acceptable to me - enna solradhu, it will just not be...me!

[equanimus]

For that matter, I think even Cheran is more resourceful than what many people allege him to be. I detect there's a sense of anxiety with respect to his looks in such criticisms.

I've very often found that people's complaints about Cheran's acting invariably fall on "how bad he looks" in certain scenes, song/fight sequences or "how loudly he cries" etc. (Why, I've even heard quite a few people jeer at him because he gets thrashed by V. Natarajan in the film!) So, I'm wary of critics when they say Cheran should stick to direction etc.

[Plum]

equa, to be fair, Cheran didnt endear himself with attempts such as mAyakaNNAdi.

[Plum]

As a director, Cheran is equally culpable of hamemring his message in, sometimes without the comic diversion that Hirani provides.

[equanimus]

equa, to be fair, Cheran didnt endear himself with attempts such as mAyakaNNAdi.
But surely, that's not what he did in most of the other films he acted in? (Even here, you've to concede that the idea, however poorly executed it might have been, was not to simply parade himself in designer clothes throughout the film without any semblance of connection to what the film is about.) How many actors are out there who can play his roles in a 'solla maRandha kadhai' or 'pirivOm sandhippOm' without hijacking the film? His limitations as an actor are fairly obvious, but he has been competent in these kind of roles.

[Plum]

Agree equa. Very often, Cheran is ridiculed by fans of "mass heroes", who aren't exactly Greek Gods themselves. The idea in MK wasnt bad but the execution was. Yeah, I get the designer clothes dig :lol:

[P_R]

Dayavan
:rotfl3: :rotfl3:

I don't remember when I laughed this hard. I have laughed enough for the rest of the year.

'They missed the point' is the most polite way to put it.
They got everything wrong. Every thing.

[Plum]

Dayavan
:rotfl3: :rotfl3:

I don't remember when I laughed this hard. I have laughed enough for the rest of the year.

'They missed the point' is the most polite way to put it.
They got everything wrong. Every thing.

That was another era. ippO reverse-la sirikkarAnga on 'our' remakes of 'their' films.

Kamal himself commented that they should have set this remake in Southall. He had a point. Not that that decision would have helped this movie given the makers. There is a movie starring one of Salman Khan's brothers which was set in Southall with similar intent. :rotfl3:

[equanimus]

LOL @ Dayavan. Now there is a film that was just spectacularly stupid on so many levels.

That was another era. ippO reverse-la sirikkarAnga on 'our' remakes of 'their' films.
ippavum vAippugaL vandhuttuth thAn irukku. Last heard, Satish Kaushik is planning to remake 'pithAmagan.'

[AravindMano]

Gulaal. Brillaintly shot film. Interesting bunch of characters and actors. But yEno couldn't empathize with anyone of them.

[Plum]

LOL @ Dayavan. Now there is a film that was just spectacularly stupid on so many levels.

That was another era. ippO reverse-la sirikkarAnga on 'our' remakes of 'their' films.
ippavum vAippugaL vandhuttuth thAn irukku. Last heard, Satish Kaushik is planning to remake 'pithAmagan.'
With Salmon and his band of brothers? :shaking:

There was a decent remake of Pithamagan in Kannada.

[P_R]

There was a decent remake of Pithamagan in Kannada.
adhu decent-na VAM should be knighted

[MADDY]

Gulaal. Brillaintly shot film. Interesting bunch of characters and actors. But yEno couldn't empathize with anyone of them.

initially i didnt like Gulaal - but ive watched it so many times now that im just loving it.......the sequence upto ransa's death are magic - enna oru face (pace)...........the way he builds up the intensity is superb - very engrossing watch.........its so raw and "underbelly indian".........i find it hard when someone says he is a 70's hollywood dummy.......i mean, i have seen taxi driver, raging bull etc but how is Anruag like that?

but Gulaal remains his last film till date :( ......

[Appu s]

Watched "Rajneeti" trailer while watching 3 idiots,

Nana patekar,Naseerudin sha,Ajay devagan,Arjun ram pal and Ranbir kapoor. katrina kaif as Soniya :shaking:

[MADDY]

Watched "Rajneeti" trailer while watching 3 idiots,

Nana patekar,Naseerudin sha,Ajay devagan,Arjun ram pal and Ranbir kapoor. katrina kaif as Soniya :shaking:

:lol:

[VENKIRAJA]

3 idiots
ezhavu maadhiri irundhuchu

[chevy]

just watched 3 idiots! Amazing!

[chevy]

3 idiots
ezhavu maadhiri irundhuchu come on! no..it was superb!

[ajithfederer]

:lol: :rotfl:

Disclaimer: I've not watched this film but the way Venki put it made me laugh

3 idiots
ezhavu maadhiri irundhuchu

[MADDY]

just watched 3 idiots! Amazing!

kood decision :clap:

how did you feel abt Madhavan's character?? did you feel he was just a add-on or did he make a impression? :D

[Nerd]

Watched "Rajneeti" trailer while watching 3 idiots,

Nana patekar,Naseerudin sha,Ajay devagan,Arjun ram pal and Ranbir kapoor. katrina kaif as Soniya :shaking:
I saw "Veer(?)" trailer while watching 3i. salman gone playing a warrior :rotfl3:

[VENKIRAJA]

AF :thumbsup:



3 idiots
ezhavu maadhiri irundhuchu come on! no..it was superb!

:poke:

The only good thing about the movie, after so much of research is the "Give me some rain give me some sunshine" sequence. But aamir's part was predictable anyway. They could have very well gone with Bhagat's book entirely.

[Appu s]

Watched "Rajneeti" trailer while watching 3 idiots,

Nana patekar,Naseerudin sha,Ajay devagan,Arjun ram pal and Ranbir kapoor. katrina kaif as Soniya :shaking:
I saw "Veer(?)" trailer while watching 3i. salman gone playing a warrior :rotfl3:
yes yes adhey :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DOnWSzszgA

[MADDY]

meanwhile trade says 3Idiots is damaging the backside of all tamil movies currently........3I is exploring untouched territories in chennai by running housefull in most unconventional places like Pallavaram janata - i just dont believe i actually wrote what i just wrote :lol: .......it is feared to cause gr8 harm to pongal releases......

it has already collected a staggering 240 crore in 10 days worldwide..............go 3I go :clap:

[MADDY]

Priyanka chopra, Amol gupte, Shahid kapur win Apsara award for Kaminey

[Appu s]

meanwhile trade says 3Idiots is damaging the backside of all tamil movies currently........3I is exploring untouched territories in chennai by running housefull in most unconventional places like Pallavaram janata - i just dont believe i actually wrote what i just wrote :lol: .......it is feared to cause gr8 harm to pongal releases......

it has already collected a staggering 240 crore in 10 days worldwide..............go 3I go :clap:

Yes 3I replaced Veetai in Sathyam main screen in its second week,
but i don think so it will spoil Pongal releases.

[MADDY]

meanwhile trade says 3Idiots is damaging the backside of all tamil movies currently........3I is exploring untouched territories in chennai by running housefull in most unconventional places like Pallavaram janata - i just dont believe i actually wrote what i just wrote :lol: .......it is feared to cause gr8 harm to pongal releases......

it has already collected a staggering 240 crore in 10 days worldwide..............go 3I go :clap:

Yes 3I replaced Veetai in Sathyam main screen in its second week,
but i don think so it will spoil Pongal releases.

u never know - AO sema mokkaya vandhirukkaamaam :P

[VENKIRAJA]

3 idiots
ezhavu maadhiri irundhuchu come on! no..it was superb!

MADDY koodavE maRubadi saNdayA? paravAilla..
annaa.. vaanga sethu sethu viLayAdalAm..

1. Screenplay was pure crap. Every single tool which routed the end, was easily guessable. Like the pen thingy or the baby kicking or whatever.

2. Songs... rAmA! Basically, kareena kapoor is a sappa pigar. And, they trying to make fun of their own Bolly stuff was :headbang:

3. Characterisation.. sollanumA ennA? Typical is the word. What did they change from MBMBBS?

4. Won't the Bollywood style of making the entire movie in a studio, shifing to a colorful landscape for the climax after a brief travel and make a trolly shot to roll credits end at all?

5. It was funny okay, but I can't laugh again. And above all, the balAtkAr scene is not classic and all.. FB-la ellAm kosu tholla thAnga mudiyala

[Plum]

Venki thambi, ninga thodarndhu pesunga. Naan vedikkai paakaren

[MADDY]

MADDY koodavE maRubadi saNdayA? paravAilla..

no probs - im not complaining - i know where the soul of this movie is.....

even a loser film like Blue, singhisking dont come under this template leave alone avante garde stuff like kaminey.....try something else


4. Won't the Bollywood style of making the entire movie in a studio, shifing to a colorful landscape for the climax after a brief travel and make a trolly shot to roll credits end at all?

[VENKIRAJA]

MADDY koodavE maRubadi saNdayA? paravAilla..

no probs - im not complaining - i know where the soul of this movie is.....

even a loser film like Blue, singhisking dont come under this template leave alone avante garde stuff like kaminey.....try something else


4. Won't the Bollywood style of making the entire movie in a studio, shifing to a colorful landscape for the climax after a brief travel and make a trolly shot to roll credits end at all?

It was general. Just oppose my 1st point alone, I'll accept you win. I don't mean to bring this in favour of Bolly vs. Kolly battle simply because I know people here can only make kadi college films. But, 3I was not classic and all.. its not RDB level, atleast... Come on. And for godsake don't tell me Aamir Khan is the second best actor here.

[MADDY]

It was general.

i got it, but i just thought there should be more patterns identified and justifiable conclusions made......for ex: Bala's complaint of bolly being too "urban/uber cool" is pretty much agreeable because u see that in almost all movies rite from Blue to Jaane tu......even there, kashyapar saves bolly with a "on the face" depiction of delhi's underbelly in DevD :D


Just oppose my 1st point alone, I'll accept you win. I don't mean to bring this in favour of Bolly vs. Kolly battle simply because I know people here can only make kadi college films. But, 3I was not classic and all.. its not RDB level, atleast... Come on. And for godsake don't tell me Aamir Khan is the second best actor here.

im not opposing ur views here at all.....i agree this movie was full of caricatures be it characters or screenplay......it is intelligent at places but i dont want to argue for them since the movie is not intended for such discussions........i know, its irritating when people call it classic - i felt the same for Nadodigal or subramaniapuram.......

ah, acting wise, i dont think we belong to the same planet (i.e other hubbers and me)........to me, Abhay deol >>>>>>>> Surya, Aamir=Rajinikanth/amitabh may sound blasphemous - but sorry thats me........im afterall a Parmnder, freea vidunga..... :D

[VENKIRAJA]

im not opposing ur views here at all.....i agree this movie was full of caricatures be it characters or screenplay......it is intelligent at places but i dont want to argue for them since the movie is not intended for such discussions........i know, its irritating when people call it classic - i felt the same for Nadodigal or subramaniapuram.......

ah, acting wise, i dont think we belong to the same planet (i.e other hubbers and me)........to me, Abhay deol >>>>>>>> Surya, Aamir=Rajinikanth/amitabh may sound blasphemous - but sorry thats me........im afterall a Parmnder, freea vidunga..... :D

appO saNdai illayA.. :|
IMO, Rajni >>>>>>>>> Amitabh/Aamir (Only 2 movies each, though)
and Abhay >>>>>>>>> Surya :yes:

[MADDY]

appO saNdai illayA.. :|

Plum, paavam channel maathanum :P


IMO, Rajni >>>>>>>>> Amitabh/Aamir (Only 2 movies each, though)

oh u shuld watch more obviously....

[Plum]

Maddy, nInga venki thambikku "anti-surya" ice-cream vaangi kuduthu mayakkittInga - sellAdhu sellAdhu :-)

[P_R]

Maddy, nInga venki thambikku "anti-surya" ice-cream vaangi kuduthu mayakkittInga - sellAdhu sellAdhu :-)
நாத்தனார் கூட குடும்பம் நடத்தி இந்த சூழ்ச்சி எல்லாம் கத்துக்கிட்டார். ஒரு பச்சைமண்ணை கெடுத்த பாவம் உங்களைத்தான் சேரும்.

[VENKIRAJA]

Maddy, nInga venki thambikku "anti-surya" ice-cream vaangi kuduthu mayakkittInga - sellAdhu sellAdhu :-)

:lol2:
enna irundhAlum nenja nakkunadhu nenja nakunadhu thAn..

[venkkiram]

"3 Idiots" பார்த்துவிட்டேன்.

கதையும், சொல்லப்பட்ட விதமும் ரொம்பக் கவர்ந்தது.

மூத்த மாணவர் இறந்து போனதை ஒரு குட்டி helicopter படம் பிடிப்பதாக சொல்லும் திரைக்கதை சூப்பர். அதுபோல, Javed Jaffrey பாத்திரச் செருகலும் அருமை.

"Silencer" - சிரிச்சி மாளவில்லை.

"Rancho" பாத்திரம் முதல் மதிப்பெண்கள் எடுக்கும் மாணவராக காட்டாமல், இயல்பாக ஒரு Average மாணவனாக காட்டியிருந்தால் இன்னும் இயல்புத்தன்மை கூடியிருக்கும். செயல்முறை ஞானம் அதிகம் இருக்கும் நிறைய மாணவர்கள் தேர்வுகள், மதிப்பெண்கள் என வரும்போது சாதிக்கத் தவறுவதை பெரும்பாலான இடங்களில் காண்கிறோம். அதுபோலவே Ranchoயும் காட்டியிருக்கலாம்.

மேற்கத்திய படங்களில் காணப்பட்டாலும், இதுவரை இந்திய சினிமாவில் காட்டாத பிரசவ நிகழ்ச்சியை அரங்கேற்றி வைத்திருக்கிறார்கள் என நினைக்கிறேன். நல்லத் தொடக்கம்.

Muraleetharana ஒளிப்பதிவு, Shantanu Moitra இசை அருமை.

"Give Me Some Sunshine" முதல் முறை கேட்டபோதே பிடித்து போனது.

கல்லூரிக் கதை என்றாலே, மாணவர்களை குழுக்களாக பிரித்தும், அவர்களுக்குள்ளே சண்டைகளை உருவாக்கி, காதலை மையப்படுத்தியே படம் எடுக்கும் இந்தியத் இயக்குனர்களுக்கு மத்தியில் Rajkumar Hirani வானவில்லாக தென்படுகிறார்.

Rajkumar Hirani, இதேப் பார்வையில் நீங்கள் எத்தனைப் படங்கள் எடுத்தாலும் எல்லாமே கவனத்திற்குரியதாக இருக்கும் என நினைக்கிறேன்.

Boman Irani , Aamir Khan , R. Madhavan, Sharman Joshi என எல்லோருக்கும் ஒரு ஓ!

[Bala (Karthik)]

Paanch - Thanks to hubber Girish's data transfer

Nalla dhaan irundhuchu.... pramadham nu solla mudiyaadhu. Kay Kay :clap:
And the end slide seemed to be an after thought/forced inclusion. Maybe due to some pressures or as a last ditch measure.

A few years back when the audio was released (2002?), indha cassette a pottu thechirukken. It was a little underwhelming now but very good to hear the songs anyway (kekkumbodhu ellam nalla nyabagam irundhuchu). A precursor of sorts to DevD, meesic-wise

Update: Oh, yeah, background la ore Led Zeppelin and The Doors dhaan :cool2:

[MADDY]

"3 Idiots" பார்த்துவிட்டேன்.

கதையும், சொல்லப்பட்ட விதமும் ரொம்பக் கவர்ந்தது.

மூத்த மாணவர் இறந்து போனதை ஒரு குட்டி helicopter படம் பிடிப்பதாக சொல்லும் திரைக்கதை சூப்பர். அதுபோல, Javed Jaffrey பாத்திரச் செருகலும் அருமை.

"Silencer" - சிரிச்சி மாளவில்லை.

"Rancho" பாத்திரம் முதல் மதிப்பெண்கள் எடுக்கும் மாணவராக காட்டாமல், இயல்பாக ஒரு Average மாணவனாக காட்டியிருந்தால் இன்னும் இயல்புத்தன்மை கூடியிருக்கும். செயல்முறை ஞானம் அதிகம் இருக்கும் நிறைய மாணவர்கள் தேர்வுகள், மதிப்பெண்கள் என வரும்போது சாதிக்கத் தவறுவதை பெரும்பாலான இடங்களில் காண்கிறோம். அதுபோலவே Ranchoயும் காட்டியிருக்கலாம்.

மேற்கத்திய படங்களில் காணப்பட்டாலும், இதுவரை இந்திய சினிமாவில் காட்டாத பிரசவ நிகழ்ச்சியை அரங்கேற்றி வைத்திருக்கிறார்கள் என நினைக்கிறேன். நல்லத் தொடக்கம்.

Muraleetharana ஒளிப்பதிவு, Shantanu Moitra இசை அருமை.

"Give Me Some Sunshine" முதல் முறை கேட்டபோதே பிடித்து போனது.

கல்லூரிக் கதை என்றாலே, மாணவர்களை குழுக்களாக பிரித்தும், அவர்களுக்குள்ளே சண்டைகளை உருவாக்கி, காதலை மையப்படுத்தியே படம் எடுக்கும் இந்தியத் இயக்குனர்களுக்கு மத்தியில் Rajkumar Hirani வானவில்லாக தென்படுகிறார்.

Rajkumar Hirani, இதேப் பார்வையில் நீங்கள் எத்தனைப் படங்கள் எடுத்தாலும் எல்லாமே கவனத்திற்குரியதாக இருக்கும் என நினைக்கிறேன்.

Boman Irani , Aamir Khan , R. Madhavan, Sharman Joshi என எல்லோருக்கும் ஒரு ஓ!

Venkkiram :clap:

[kid-glove]

Atrocious discussion earlier on Amitabh. Enna dhan agenda irundhalum, naane othukkuven Amitabh real-avey Big B of Bollywood-nu. Very very good actor ba! Aamir apala Abhay ellam kaal dhoosu imo. innum neraiya sadhika irukku, ivanungalakku...Apram Amitab oda compare pannalam. Ogay0va?

[kid-glove]

To cleanse my last (hAnest) post, I have decided to laugh with Valencia fans (about a player called "Marchena") on a re-spin of Amitabh's classic song! :rotfl: :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY7eBl6Ynzk

Kinda miss those hindi masala days like Plum :(

[kid-glove]

Original song (to be seen after that hilariously subtitled snippet on 'Marchena')

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7H4OBa9loI#movie_player

Film is weakest among Amitabh's masala films in 80's.

Things to be noted:
a) First step at around 0.29 sec :lol:
b) dance with the guitar :lol2:
c) costume after 2:37. :rotfl:

[MADDY]

Atrocious discussion earlier on Amitabh. Enna dhan agenda irundhalum, naane othukkuven Amitabh real-avey Big B of Bollywood-nu. Very very good actor ba! Aamir apala Abhay ellam kaal dhoosu imo. innum neraiya sadhika irukku, ivanungalakku...Apram Amitab oda compare pannalam. Ogay0va?

Abhay comes from a very strong theatre background......dont underestimate him......but dunno he will ever become a star.......irfan khan/n.shah/vinay pathak etc range-la thangiduvaan-nnu thonudhu :)

Aamir/Amitabh - i felt it was fair comparison since Aamir matches Amitabh due to Amitabh's heavy "banal movies" baggage......Aamir has relatively lesser.......he has mela, aatank hi aatank (comes with a mush:rotfl2:) but still he has been consistently careful in his selection.....he is a super* in his own right - i felt he can be equated to Amitabh......yes, if u take amitabh post 2000, then he is >> Aamir, Rajinikanth's entire career.....

[kid-glove]

I was one of Abhay's earlier fans in terms of shrewd script selections and carving a niche in what I call 'alternate' cinema to mainstream Bolly. Much unlike other Deols. :P But in time, I see people have caught Abhay deol hype that I had to come out of it meself. :P

Btw, I thought we were talking of acting and not just about quality of films. In which case, Amitabh (pre-99 or post-99) has always been excellent in Bollywood. :thumbsup: Only when some Bolly fans talk of him in breath of N'Shah, I get a bit miffed. :D Otherwise, he is quite easily head and shoulders above Aamir, Abhay or Ranbir Kapoor. :P

[Plum]

And I protest the summary dismissal of rajini's entire career.. Arguably, even Chiranjeevi is not as limited as his typical films portray him to be. Infact, I wouldn't rate the post KBX amitabh at all. If he were a football fan, the post 2000 amitabh will root for west ham. A better example of his talent is his pre-superstar movies.

[Appu s]

Ishqiya, Vishal Bharadwaj's Dialogues&screenplay http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5j8G2GsFMw Releasing this month :cool2:

[MADDY]

Btw, I thought we were talking of acting and not just about quality of films.

i meant ordinary writing invariably has ordinary performances.......


Otherwise, he is quite easily head and shoulders above Aamir, Abhay or Ranbir Kapoor. :P

GM: aama avanga ellam konjam height kammi

[kid-glove]

Javed Akhtar, Bimal Dutta, Salim khan ellam ordinary writing-a? The films started to put a proper framework of 'masala' as is what we refer to, today. Start at plot level and character dynamics, they are still world apart from modern day Karan johar and Farah khan. Which is not saying much.

But seriously you got to watch early yash chopra, Hrishikesh mukherjee, Prakash Mehra films with Amitabh. Well, you don't have to in some cases, If you had watched Rajini's remade films.

[kid-glove]

And I protest the summary dismissal of rajini's entire career.. Arguably, even Chiranjeevi is not as limited as his typical films portray him to be. Infact, I wouldn't rate the post KBX amitabh at all. If he were a football fan, the post 2000 amitabh will root for west ham. A better example of his talent is his pre-superstar movies.

What's wrong with West Ham? I like 'em too. :oops:

Amitabh (and his son too) is a Chelsea fan. What a glory hunter? :hammer: :lol:

[kid-glove]

[tscii:ba0bc02c61]Q: This film is being targeted as a non-diaspora film by Fox, but you have been often accused of making films only for the Indian diaspora.

Karan Johar: “Yes I know and I am tired of that tag. I don’t think anyone understands the NRI audience. I make a film because I feel it will connect with some one sitting in Bihar and someone in New York.”[/tscii:ba0bc02c61]

:lol:

[MADDY]

Javed Akhtar, Bimal Dutta, Salim khan ellam ordinary writing-a?

no not them - i meant movies like desh premi, Andha kanoon, Mahaan etc.......i dont think i was too impressed by host of other movies that used to come in saturday 5PM DD1 those days :D ......but yes, i agree my gen starts with aamir, salman and have very vague memories of amitabh....

Plum, yes u culd be right......but tell u what, i watched ilamai oonjal aadugiradhu last week.........rajini rose above the writing in some places but was strictly ordinary throughout.........my father though says, they watched the movie those days purely for 2 Rs :D ......again, my point could be wrong because im used to brilliant writing these days - its not rajini's fault not to have had a kaminey or gulaal those days :lol: ......rajini rolling charas/joint and smoking it in a Anurag, vishal baradwaj movie would have been a visual explosion :bow:

[MADDY]

[tscii:2804ca5d00]
Karan Johar: “Yes I know and I am tired of that tag. I don’t think anyone understands the NRI audience. I make a film because I feel it will connect with some one sitting in Bihar and someone in New York.”[/tscii:2804ca5d00]

:lol:

:lol:

another promising film coming up (Plum vaithula puliya karaikka) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Striker_(film)


The soundtrack album of Striker consists of songs composed by various artists such as Vishal Bhardwaj, Tamil composer Yuvan Shankar Raja, making his Bollywood debut, and Amit Trivedi among others. The album is slated to release on 8 January 2010.

that should be awesome :shock:

[kid-glove]

:thumbsup:

Imagine a Tamil version of AK or Bharadwaj with actors like Rajini at disposal, it would be amazing. Innum time irukku. I was discussing with my friends who study filmmaking and their ideas convince me there will be such films in future. :boo:

[ajaybaskar]

Watched 3 Idiots....

Though the film has the Munnabhai hangover throughout, the film was extremely enjoyable. Mainly due to the performance of the lead actors... After Anbe Sivam, Madhavan has once again proved that he is an artist with great potential.. Hope no one does this film in Tamil.. Suryavai Rancho characterla nenaichu paarthaalae vomit vomitah varudhu...

[kid-glove]

Ennathan naan Nov-oda hitlist-ya irundhalum, I have t o say it's equally possible to say Aamir in Surya's Pithamagan or Maayavi would be puke-worthy. :huh:

[MADDY]

Ennathan naan Nov-oda hitlist-ya irundhalum, I have t o say it's equally possible to say Aamir in Surya's Pithamagan role would be puke-worthy. :huh:

1947 earth dilnawaz :lol2:

[MADDY]

actually, due to time constraints, Ajay has not posted his complete feeling on the movie......he liked it very much and was upset that i was not promoting it in hUB as much i should have :lol: ........

[kid-glove]

Ennathan naan Nov-oda hitlist-ya irundhalum, I have t o say it's equally possible to say Aamir in Surya's Pithamagan role would be puke-worthy. :huh:

1947 earth dilnawaz>>>>>>>>>> any rural surya can even conceive :lol2:

Appadi onnum periya thilalangadi illa. Debatle IMO

The pinnacle moment is when he sees Nandita and Khanna copulating. There too, the stunned face (with bulged eyes) worked in terms of subtlety, and not nuance. I was waiting for some nuanced expression (think Mohanlal in Manjil Virinja Pookkal) till the end. there too, he coolly lits his beedi and doesn't provide anything to take over. Such kind of brilliance is what Aamir misses to lift him above Surya. :)

[kid-glove]

Rural-kaaga mattum Surya-va better-nu sollala. That's why I even included Mayaavi.

People will bring up Rangeela (and dare not "Fanaa" :twisted: ) I'm sure. But it markedly differs from Surya's comic sense. :thumbsup:

[MADDY]

the final scene, where nandita is being dragged out, aamir squats down to have a beedi :roll: seri vidunga, surya is great.....

the day is not far when people here wud be arguing how sam anderson was more meticulous than Aamir in yaarukku yaro.......i dont even want to be in this planet of thinking :lol:

[kid-glove]

the final scene, where nandita is being dragged out, aamir squats down to have a beedi


till the end. there too, he coolly lits his beedi and doesn't provide anything to take over.

:huh:

Bringing Sam Anderson to this debate?! Again Maddy, you're taking it a bit far. And I thought I was a Parminder in my weekend conferences with friends.

I say this unabashed hyperboles would one day result in calling Ranbir kapoor as the next NT. :lol:

[MADDY]

how can someone miss the fury, pressue of racing heart beats in those eyes......

sorry KG, i dont agree to ur evaluation of aamir at all :D ...im ready to accept my ignorance on amitabh but aamir is exclusively my generation and my territory and someone i have watched all my life.......and i have watched surya too - lets agree to disagree :)

[kid-glove]

I pretty much nailed parts which one would think of 'masterclass acting' when it's 'sheer competence' on part of an actor. Of course, actor vs actor comparison will always result in polarizing divergence.

[MADDY]

I pretty much nailed parts which one would think of 'masterclass acting' when it's 'sheer competence' on part of an actor.

thats what u think

[kid-glove]

miss the fury, pressue of racing heart beats in those eyes......

Oh! I was noticing the extra kajal and cared for the bulged eyes. I hear it's a cause of deformation, to not blink your eyes for lengthy periods. :lol:

[kid-glove]

I pretty much nailed parts which one would think of 'masterclass acting' when it's 'sheer competence' on part of an actor.

thats what u think

I don't disagree. So, let's stop picking on Surya every time an Aamir film releases, shall we?

And I'm not even a Surya fan. I think Madhavan is comfortably better. :roll:

[MADDY]

im pretty clear on aamir's skills - he is a competent actor is all i'm trying to say but his oeuvre is much bigger than that of Surya, who hasnt shown initial brilliance like Abhay too........kamal, mohanlal are way above aamir and i can take these to whip almost all actors in india - thats not a correct evaluation

[MADDY]

I pretty much nailed parts which one would think of 'masterclass acting' when it's 'sheer competence' on part of an actor.

thats what u think

I don't disagree. So, let's stop picking on Surya every time an Aamir film releases, shall we?

that was Ajay - i would surely tell him.....

kamal in 10A: oor vaaya mooda mudiyaadhu :lol: .....

i dont have any interest in talking abt surya seriously :)

[kid-glove]

im pretty clear on aamir's skills - he is a competent actor is all i'm trying to say but his oeuvre is much bigger than that of Surya, who hasnt shown initial brilliance like Abhay too........kamal, mohanlal are way above aamir and i can take these to whip almost all actors in india - thats not a correct evaluation

My point being that Aamir doesn't come close to whipping other competent and reasonably talented actors. So the purported air of superiority in 'talent' and in 'emoting' doesn't exist or is only minimal, especially when compared to Surya, Abhay or what have you. :huh:

I use N'shah as a yardstick for other Indhi actors. I think I shouldn't, it's just too unfair. 8-)

[MADDY]

Oh! I was noticing the extra kajal and cared for the bulged eyes

:lol:

[MADDY]

My point being that Aamir doesn't come close to whipping other competent and reasonably talented actors. So the purported air of superiority in 'talent' and in 'emoting' doesn't exist or is only minimal, especially when compared to Surya, Abhay or what have you. :huh:

KG, i have seen no great samples of surya other than pithamagan, mayavi to even put him in "competent" league.......the 54 degree face turn in Nandha to depict "concentration" is :lol2: .....

ask him to do the scene where abhay ditches mahi in Devd - appram paakkalam......

[kid-glove]

Do not backtrack Maddy, few pages back, you conceded aamir and surya are at same level, admittedly the level being lesser than that of Abhay. :boo:

[kid-glove]

Abhay deol >>>>>>>> Surya, Aamir

:)

[kid-glove]

Users browsing this forum: equanimus

Another Aamir fan. Bring it on, man. :boo:

[equanimus]

Oh, but very much a Surya fan as well!

And, Maddy, looking forward to Raktha Charithra? Please don't tell us you expect Vivek Oberoi to have Surya for lunch in that one!

[MADDY]

Abhay deol >>>>>>>> Surya, Aamir

:)

read like Level3>>>>L1,L2


And, Maddy, looking forward to Raktha Charithra?

yes, expecting a indianised kill-bill (since ramu has promised 2 episodes)......


Please don't tell us you expect Vivek Oberoi to have Surya for lunch in that one!

:lol: when someone says aamir is not great its a brilliant observation, when someone says surya is not good enuf he becomes a ridiculous guy :)

[MADDY]

Users browsing this forum: equanimus

Another Aamir fan. Bring it on, man. :boo:

then im a yuvan shankar raja fan

[kid-glove]

Sorry Maddy. I didn't know Equa was a Surya fan. :noteeth:

Btw Maddy, I don't think any one said my observations on Aamir as brilliant let alone 'correct'. On the other hand, I haven't disregarded him like your case of Surya. :huh:

[equanimus]

Maddy,
nijamAlE Aamir Khan 'ai rombap pudikkum 'nga.

[MADDY]

Btw Maddy, I don't think any one said my observations on Aamir as brilliant let alone 'correct'.

but no one asked u ridiculous questions like will u expect a movie for vivek oberoi or surya :lol: ......

surya is very good and liked him in lot of movies, but i dont know if he would fit in your slab of "competent" actors (aamir is just abt competent) ...........i have already talked enough abt surya - i really dont want to have serious discussions on that topic again :) .....i dont know if this is disregarding :)

[MADDY]

Maddy,
nijamAlE Aamir Khan 'ai rombap pudikkum 'nga.

enakkum yuvan-a romba pudikkumnga :lol:

[kid-glove]

Ok. No 'disregarding'. You like to discard him, confirmed. Like you tried to psychoanalyse my supposed hatred of Aamir in this thread, I would like to know where this Surya hatred is stemming from. :huh:

[equanimus]

but no one asked u ridiculous questions like will u expect a movie for vivek oberoi or surya :lol: ......
I was the one who directed the jab at you, so let me first admit that I like Vivek Oberoi myself! avaraiyum Surya'vai vida pudikkumA 'nRadhaith thAnga appadik kEttEn. I mean, it was not at all about picking a straw man in Vivek. :)


Maddy,
nijamAlE Aamir Khan 'ai rombap pudikkum 'nga.

enakkum yuvan-a romba pudikkumnga :lol:
Maddy,
My point is, he's probably my favourite lead actor in Hindi cinema!

[Plum]

Equa, u see potential in oberoiv thaat makes it 2 of us

[equanimus]

Plum,
Basically, I have a history of RGV fanhood (I still am in some ways). :)

[kid-glove]

I hope it's Oberoi of "Company" and "Omkara". No great shakes but promising in lack of 'Rishi kapoor' effect.

[kid-glove]

Plum,
Basically, I have a history of RGV fanhood (I still am in some ways). :)

I bet you liked "Road". :P

Edit- It's not a RGV film. :oops:

[equanimus]

Yes, it was directed by one Mr. Rajat Mukherjee, but you're right, I remember liking it somewhat. Guilty as charged.

[kid-glove]

Of his recent films, I thought Naach was undeservedly bashed and binned. And would I qualify as RGV-ian if I admit to have liked some aspects of Nishabd? :noteeth:

[MADDY]

but no one asked u ridiculous questions like will u expect a movie for vivek oberoi or surya :lol: ......
I was the one who directed the jab at you, so let me first admit that I like Vivek Oberoi myself! avaraiyum Surya'vai vida pudikkumA 'nRadhaith thAnga appadik kEttEn. I mean, it was not at all about picking a straw man in Vivek. :)

:shock: be careful (naa enna sollikitten) ....sorry, i felt u were mocking me that i would put surya below a listless vivek as well......sathyama, ennadhaan surya lesser favored-a irundhalum, i like him better than vivek......saathiya theatre-la paatha bad experience dhaan :) ......

Plum, do u know RGV makes fun of AKashyap for borrowing from foriegn movies :lol: ......

[equanimus]

Oh yes, I liked Naach actually. I still think it's underrated. One of the early films (albeit post-Yuva) in which I found Abhishek impressive.

But, the case with Road is different, I suppose. To have liked it is quite an embarrassment!

[kid-glove]

But, the case with Road is different, I suppose. To have liked it is quite an embarrassment!
:exactly: In my defence, I had the option of watching XXX (Vin Diesel movie) again or to watch RGV-labeled "Road". Having bunked classes in my first year of engineering, I had no choice but to watch "Road", XXX would be a stretch to relieve again. Come to think of it, I found the film enthralling for Manoj Bajpai, who I had always liked. Btw I also quite like his "Aks" which released about a year earlier. I'm of course a bit guilty of not admitting my likeness for both these films in Fublic. :oops:

[equanimus]

sathyama, ennadhaan surya lesser favored-a irundhalum, i like him better than vivek......
Oh yes, a no-contest. Surya is simply leagues ahead. Actually, that Surya agreed to do this part in the first place really surprised me, considering that he's pitted against an actor of much smaller stature.

[equanimus]

kid-glove,
Yeah, Manoj Bajpai was one of the foremost reasons for sure. And it was after all just one of the sishyappuLLaigaL, so was never particularly fond of it. But recently, I happened to watch a few minutes towards the end of the film, and felt a tinge of regret!

And same pinch on Aks too!

[Plum]

Dhairyama sollanum - road(for bajpai, whom I also consider very good) nishabd in parts were not bad. Actually, aag had its moments. Chumma sholay holy cow-ngaradhaala remba ottittanga.aagey se rightlaam watchable, aag worst movie of the decadenu avainga solluvainga adhellaam kandukkapadaadhu.

Rgv's best movies seem to have had anurag kashyap, jaideep sahni etc as writers, though!

[equanimus]

Plum,
ungaLukkuLLa ippadi oru RGV fan thUngittu irukkaRadhu theriyAmap pOchchE.

Rgv's best movies seem to have had anurag kashyap, jaideep sahni etc as writers, though!
Actually, RGV is out on a deadly mission to dislodge this notion (that the writing is the key for a film) for the past 4 or 5 years. Which is why, I think, his films started to have increasingly trashy premises/content.

[kid-glove]

Another reason for liking Road is bit characters with quirky demeanor like Raaz, Deshpande and Rajpal Yadav*. A RGV trademark!

*I read RGV praising Yadav for the expression in "Company" in latest blog post.

[Plum]

Equa, avaru telugu padam edukkarachElrundhu I have liked him. As you said, he is just out to prove a point these days and that's causing his downfall. Agyaat was :rotfl:. As I confessed in br's blog, I don't have pobllems with james even. There is an edginess he brings in (pre kashyap kashaypism) that sparkles in some moments in even his worst film. Even darrling has some moments - and that he achieved with fardeen khan, and 2 eshas in the lead. Only agyaat left me totally cold.
Raktha charitra left me totally cold. Helps that it has a telugu version. I think the problem in hindi for him is that he can't write as well as in telugu. His telugu movies had good writing. I hope raktha being in telugu as well helps him regain his mojo.

[P_R]

Equa/Thilak, have you seen Raat gayi, baat gayi ?

Sudesakaamugan called it Woody Allenish.

[Plum]

Sudesakamugan :lol:
(PaarthA remba pheel paNNuvaaru)
But sudes is a peter(uniquely, he is also parminder) so it might be name dropping also

[kid-glove]

Equa/Thilak, have you seen Raat gayi, baat gayi ?

Sudesakaamugan called it Woody Allenish.

Innum illa. Pathura vendiyadhu dhan !!

[MADDY]

http://www.realbollywood.com/news/2010/01/star-screen-awards-2010.html

Star screen Awards.......for the first time in my life, im unhappy that ARRahman has won a award :) .....Amit deserved it more than raaja and rahman.......DevD gets the lonely award for best cinematography :( ......best story for love aaj kal :roll:

[kid-glove]

Any coincidence to DevD not backed by one of the mainstream studios and not being a mainstream film?!

[ajithfederer]

President Sellers : General It's the proud policy of our country never to strike first with nuclear weapons!!
Buck Turgidson: Mr. President, I should say that General Ripper has already invalidated that part sir :lol2:

Edho sollanumnu thonuchu :lol:




I pretty much nailed parts which one would think of 'masterclass acting' when it's 'sheer competence' on part of an actor.

thats what u think

I don't disagree. So, let's stop picking on Surya every time an Aamir film releases, shall we?

that was Ajay - i would surely tell him.....

kamal in 10A: oor vaaya mooda mudiyaadhu :lol: .....

i dont have any interest in talking abt surya seriously :)

[kid-glove]

:lol:

[ajithfederer]

Edho turgidsonkku russia mela nukes use panna ishtamae illadha madhiri pesuvaar padathula :P

[MADDY]

i dont know woeld politics - but i know it was ajay, who has no connection with all these, posted that...... :)

[MADDY]

Any coincidence to DevD not backed by one of the mainstream studios and not being a mainstream film?!

yes, i mean they dont have a "gaandu" and all but i dont think they know such movies are great too :D .........the bollywood that i argue for here is not even recognised by the mainstream :)

[ajithfederer]

Ada adhu oru jestkku eludinadhu maddy !.

[kid-glove]

Downloaded Paanch. .srt subtitle file kidaikadha?


I have watched it before, about 2 years back, Ak posted it for pfc members. Keep that a secret. Don't quote my post.

[complicateur]

3 Idiots. I will never be able to hear the word balatkaar and not laugh again. Sharman takes the cake in terms of performances. Maththabadi one time see-alaam.

[kid-glove]

3














Patti :lol2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0FndKUfKk8

Innoru bit-u role. Plum sonna madhiri Bollywood-Sriman aaga poraar namba Maddy.. :sigh2:

[P_R]

I will never be able to hear the word balatkaar and not laugh again. :sigh2:

[VENKIRAJA]

3 Idiots. I will never be able to hear the word balatkaar and not laugh again.

you too burootas?

[complicateur]

To clarify, I've always found the word funny. Now it's become some sort of inside joke between me and Raju Hirani. I will now stop making eskooses for my populist tendencies.

[MADDY]

I will now stop making eskooses for my populist tendencies.

wats the excuse u had for liking mounam pesiyadhe :lol: JK.......

compli-ye sollittaaru - po po, kelambu, aaan aaan panjayathhu overru :lol:

[complicateur]

wats the excuse u had for liking mounam pesiyadhe athu konjam against the grain. Most people I talk to hate the film.
And to clarify I didn't really like 3 Idiots all that much. Only the running use of 'balAtkar'.
And 3 patti looks like an idiot child of Aronofsky's Pi and 21. *shudder*

[kid-glove]

Teen patti(malayalam) looks also like Aankhen part II :banghead:

[MADDY]

Teen patti-la madhavan villain role-baa.....sema weight-a irukkum :)

[Aalavanthan]

Aaal izz welll ... 4th week into running and the movie is still full during the weekends. Surprised to see a gang of localites who have come to watch it.

Overall a great "feel good " film and I love it. The voice over wits of Maddy during some emotional scenes are more like the ones of JD from Scrubs. But he was cool and has done his part in a best way and I really dont agree to some guys here saying that Maddy didnt have the meat-est of the role. Voice over-ing the entire film itself is a great honour for Maddy.

For Aamir Khan - I am waiting for this year's christmas ..

[MADDY]

wats the excuse u had for liking mounam pesiyadhe athu konjam against the grain. Most people I talk to hate the film.

grain :lol: .......i love the film, infact i found lot more detailing in this movie than raam or paruthiveeran of Ameer's movies...... :)

[MADDY]

Any Bollywood plans?

Selva Raghavan: Yes, I have signed a film with UTV. It will be on the floors soon.

http://www.clapsandboos.com/mindspeak/4b548f4a57377d240e000001 :D

[Plum]

Maddy, seekiramA 6 p age Ottittu adutha thread aarambinga.

[equanimus]

[tscii:d39b07a5ed][/tscii:d39b07a5ed]From the interview Maddy linked to:

The movie is well poised for a sequel; will you make one?

Selva Raghavan: Definitely, without doubt.
Was kinda guessing against all odds that this wouldn't be the case. Not because I didn't like this film, but because the end note seemed to suggest a 'cycle.'


I know you would deny it; but it is absolutely apparent that the movie has an Eelam Subtext and many reviews have written about it as well.

Selva Raghavan: No, absolutely not. Such things are not exclusive to Eelam isn’t it? Even people in Serbia were victims to such inhuman acts shown in the film. We are deeply affected by such issues. So, it’s pretty obvious people relate to it. But, my intention was not to refer Eelam.
Despite Selva's answer, the "we" here is crucial. It'd be fair to suggest that Selva would have also related it to Eelam, the same way as most of the audience did. While it's true that the sort of war crimes shown in the film aren't exclusive to Eelam, the point is it is without doubt the 'closest' of the issues that make the Tamil audience relate to the scene in the first place.

[equanimus]

sari, padaththula (Ayiraththil oruvan) appadi enna Hollywood inspiration? Haven't watched many Hollywood fantasy/adventure films myself, adhAn kEkkuREn.

[MADDY]

[tscii:67d8ce7e48]Equa, have u written a review for AO??

i'm unable to place a finger over the exact reason why i found it underwhelming.........he used convenient cliches is one point but other than that?

from the same link:


It’s just that I want to convey issues in a powerful way. It’s just my way of making sure the audience talk about it.

i think this is how all the current gen tamil directors think......they are a bit insecure abt the "suggestive" way of filmmaking and are very explicit to garner attention......i would put Bala also in this.......Mysskin is a welcome difference to this trend [/tscii:67d8ce7e48]

[MADDY]

sari, padaththula (Ayiraththil oruvan) appadi enna Hollywood inspiration? Haven't watched many Hollywood fantasy/adventure films myself, adhAn kEkkuREn.

the scene where a sound splits their ear-drums and they go bersek before interval is already told in "indiana jones and crystal skull" - but thats not a big deal........en frnds neraya sonnanga - nyabagam illa

[equanimus]

[tscii:2f12c0499b]Equa, have u written a review for AO??[/tscii:2f12c0499b]
No, Maddy. I'm not sure if I even recall the film all that well.

he used convenient cliches is one point but other than that?
I'm not sure about the "convenient" part, but it did seem like an array of fantasy/horror/adventure elements put together which doesn't make much sense as a whole piece.

[equanimus]

i would put Bala also in this.......
Nevaire!

[MADDY]

i would put Bala also in this.......
Nevaire!

:lol:

[ajithfederer]

An idea to run the last 5 pages. I have seen only a hand few hindi films. If people can pull a top 10 in this decade I will try to watch those movies in the coming days.

[Appu s]

An idea to run the last 5 pages. I have seen only a hand few hindi films. If people can pull a top 10 in this decade I will try to watch those movies in the coming days.

:goodidea:

[ajithfederer]

Top 10 + Other honorable mentions!!.

[littlemaster1982]

An idea to run the last 5 pages. I have seen only a hand few hindi films. If people can pull a top 10 in this decade I will try to watch those movies in the coming days.

:goodidea:

:exactly:

[MADDY]

good idea feddy :D .....

im sure each one of us can uncover gems that we didnt know..... :)

[Appu s]

Maddy have u Listen this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g9oPT1GhMo Bombay bombay from striker, Trivedi's track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLhCDKqodX8 Cham cham, promotional video :cool2:

[MADDY]

Maddy have u Listen this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g9oPT1GhMo Bombay bombay from striker, Trivedi's track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLhCDKqodX8 Cham cham, promotional video :cool2:

yes, Amit trivedi 8-)

[Plum]

There is only one movie that I will unreservedly - not that af would be waiting for my recommendation but riccost pottappuram adhai handle pannalainaa apram enna hubber - maqbool but it is quite famous.

Small movies and unknown surprisesnA, the following few surprised me by being better than I thought they'll be
Pinjar - I have a weaknes for partition dramas unless it is of the gadar type. Manoj Bajpai was one of the reasons ofcourse but urmila surrprised me here
Haasil - actually it is quite famous as up politics movie
Waisa bhi hota hai 2 - I think there is no WBHH1 but they named it part 2 - the film lives up to that zaniness.
Sehar
Ah! There seems to be a pattern there - I can't place my fingers on it though!

[app_engine]

I see few Hindi movies, still most of those were popular ones and also listing is an interesting exercise :-)

However, you probably would have seen these all, AF :

lagAn (2001)
rang de basanthi (2006)
chak de India (2007)
cheeni kum (2007)
Munnabhai MBBS (2003)
black (2005)

[MADDY]

Waisa bhi hota hai 2 - I think there is no WBHH1 but they named it part 2 - the film lives up to that zaniness.

:cool2: theres one more thing we agree on......part of the reason i liked it was because i was getting tired of mumbai-noir genre movies and this was a welcome relief :lol: ......vaare wah, this goes to show there are lot of "above-average" movies in this decade.....

im still trying to put a comprehensive list :D

[ajithfederer]

Thanks app_eng. Other than 4 and 6 I have seen everything.

Thanks to plum too.

I see few Hindi movies, still most of those were popular ones and also listing is an interesting exercise :-)

However, you probably would have seen these all, AF :

lagAn (2001)
rang de basanthi (2006)
chak de India (2007)
cheeni kum (2007)
Munnabhai MBBS (2003)
black (2005)

[MADDY]

heres my list- most likely to change:

2000
Astitva - pretty good characterisation and ferfarmnses
Split wide open - first hard hiting arty movie i have seen in my life other than the malayalam ones during sunday DD1 days

2001
Dil chahta hai - mid summer south-mumbai dream, to me this is the first Multiplex movie of India (i mean the content)
Lagaan - avid fan of sports movies can never miss this movie...had a pretty big canvas of characters and believable knots and situations...
Zubeidaa - Rahman and Benegal. period

2002
Bend it like beckham - absolutely beautiful movie - oru ponnoda manasu etc, friction & frndship between races, generation gap between NRI parents and NRI kids.......
Company - path breaker to mumbai underworld genre in the sense it started making movies on live examples......Ramu without Anurag - a big test for the former....
mr. and mrs.iyer - ISI mark art movie :lol:

2003
3 deewarein - gripping movie
Munnabhai - hats off hirani
Paanch - Enter the man - Anurag
Raghu Romeo - Rajat Kapoor's version of Guna, ofcourse not a patch on Guna
Waisa Bhi Hota Hai Part II - very good entertainer and has a beautiful subtext of mocking then existed mumbai-underworld movies

2004
Maqbool - macbeth masterpiece
Socha na tha - Imtiaz's mouth watering debut which held a great promise to bollywood's future
Swades - my most personal film of the decade

2005
Black Friday - devastating piece of cinema by Anuragji
Iqbal - another sports movie which has a pretty strong cricket selection related political commentary as well

2006
Ahista Ahista - soft tale of love and lost love......
Don - a remake which had its own brain
Khosla ka ghosla- the point where bollywood took off from other industries and left others far behind
Omkara - othello refabricated into a mindblowing piece
Rang De Basanti - cult movie of the decade
Mixed doubles - Rajat kapoor strikes gold in this category

2007
Chak de India - another sports movie i loved
Cheeni kum - beautiful simple movie and ofcourse raaja sir
Jab we met - jab bhi Imtiaz makes movies, i love it....the most enjoyable dialogues that u would ever come across...
Johnny Gaddar - multi-threaded, multi-sequence thriller of our generation
Manorama six feet under - detective movie with uneasy noir subtext
No smoking - a bizzaire journey into ANurag's surreal world
Taare zameen par - poem

2008
Aamir - scariest film i have ever seen......the real life danger of jehad thumping on the face
A wedensday - crisp action masla movie on a common man
Oye lucky lucky oye - abstract movie on a thief - very different feel
Jaane tu ya jaane na - brilliant movie with brilliant cast, dialogues, characterisations and great music...
Mitya - beautiful movie with great variations in tone and emotions.....

2009
DevD - if tarantino makes a love story, this is how it would be,
Gulaal - brilliant movie on student politics which goes in all possible directions that a human mind can take
Kaminey - why werent all our masala movies made like this all these 80 yrs?

[ajithfederer]

Thanks Maddy. I haven't seen many films in this. That is some crisp intro about each and every film. I have bookmarked this page now.

[MADDY]

i have missed out a host of glaring obvious ones(which i cant recollect now) and host of shabana azmi, konkana sen, ragul bose small movies with hindo-english titles.......honestly there are lots of them :lol:

[P_R]

Johnny Gaddar - multi-threaded :lol2:

Saw the Rann trailer. AB's voice/pronunciation seems different. Aanaa ramagopalanai namburadhai niruthi konja naaL aachu.


btw inge yaarumE Rocket Singh, Raat gai baat gayi ellAm pakkaliyA ?

[P_R]

Notably absent film I strongly recommend is "Hazaaron Kwaishein Aisi".

[Plum]

Notably absent film I strongly recommend is "Hazaaron Kwaishein Aisi".

adhu romba obvious-nu sollalai. I thought Kaminey, DevD, this etc were quite obvious choices...even Omkara. Somehow I was under the impresion that we were discussing lesser known ones.

HKA-kku veLLi kiNNamae uNdu. (Gold being Maqbool)

One more - Gangajaal - devagaNam, Crazy Singh ellAm irundhum somehow director managed an engaging movie. Support cast was envy-generating.

nalla pEru vAngina nAn pArkadha padangaL:
parzania
That Saif-Nasseer Parsi movie - forgot the name
Makdi by Vishal Bharadwaj
Godmother - national awardlAm koduthAnga but didnt hear great reviews

Maddy list-la Manorama and Mithya - how did I miss these two!

[Appu s]

Raat gayi baat gayi is the copy of "the hang over" -nnu potrukkainga... :neutral:

[P_R]

Raat gayi baat gayi is the copy of "the hang over" -nnu potrukkainga... :neutral: :lol:

yEn Dude Where's my car kooda sollalaam :-)

[Wibha]

Raat gayi baat gayi is the copy of "the hang over" -nnu potrukkainga... :neutral:

Oh no :| :|

[P_R]

HKA-kku veLLi kiNNamae uNdu. (Gold being Maqbool) Me too ditto


One more - Gangajaal - devagaNam Met too miss. BirahAs chA + Beehaar + DevagaNan kaambinEsan-la apahAraN-nu oru padam pArthEn. shabbaa..


That Saif-Nasseer Parsi movie - forgot the nameBeing Cyrus.
Nothing great.
Naan Being John Malkovitch range-ku edhirpaarthuttEn


On my yet to watch list

Raghu Romeo
Blue Umbrella
Omkara (one time end to end parkkaNum)
Black Friday (naan documentary-nu ninaichu release 'mbOdhu paakkaama vittuttEn)

No Smoking sounds like the parts of the Dev D I don't like and further in that direction - so paakkuradhA illai

[Appu s]

Raat gayi baat gayi is the copy of "the hang over" -nnu potrukkainga... :neutral:

Oh no :| :|

Yen Hangover laye sirippu varalaya :lol2:

[Plum]

Being Cyrus.
Nothing great.
Naan Being John Malkovitch range-ku edhirpaarthuttEn

Oh! Raja Sen pArattinappOvE naan mild-A doubt AnEn!



Raghu Romeo

That reminds me - Mixed Doubles


Blue Umbrella

Neraiya miss paNNi irukkOmpA!


No Smoking sounds like the parts of the Dev D I don't like and further in that direction - so paakkuradhA illai
:lol:

[MADDY]

Johnny Gaddar - multi-threaded :lol2:

pls contact my pakkathu table


Notably absent film I strongly recommend is "Hazaaron Kwaishein Aisi".

u can charge me guilty of bad memory......this will occupy one of top5 slots for me 8-) .......climax ellam left me catching for breath 8-) .....


Smoking sounds like the parts of the Dev D I don't like and further in that direction - so paakkuradhA illai

MADDY: AVan ippa ellam appadi padam edukkradhillannu avane sonnaan
P_R: avan thirundhittennu, avane sonnanna?

honestly, No smoking is a voyage into unknown destinations - oru "cocaine" trip madhiri :wink:

[kid-glove]

No Smoking sounds like the parts of the Dev D I don't like and further in that direction - so paakkuradhA illai

:lol:

"No smoking" is AK being facilitator of interpretations. To help against IF, the man had written about his intention, certain hints and key to crack the philum. :wink:

[MADDY]

and Black friday is a documentary - if i remember correctly, raging bull pace-la irukkum screenplay...

(i meant, i dont remember raging bull so well)

[VENKIRAJA]

கடமையை செஞ்சாச்சு!
Voted for:
DevD
Kashyapar
Amithu

Don't know much. But, Please help me with the .srt or .sub of HKA, d/l-ed it a year ago.. hunting for subtitles!!

[kid-glove]

and Black friday is a documentary - if i remember correctly, raging bull pace-la irukkum screenplay...

(i meant, i dont remember raging bull so well)

Black Friday's docu feel might be because of strict adherence to the investigative process involved and lack of filmsy elements at any level, especially in character development.

[kid-glove]

HKA is in English (Indianized and easily understood), and very less of Hindi dialogues (even so, they are easily understood).

[VENKIRAJA]

HKA is in English (Indianized and easily understood), and very less of Hindi dialogues (even so, they are easily understood).

ipdi pArkka Arambichu naduvula puriyalannA Shift+Del Ayirum.. pala muRai apdi Ayirukku.. adhAn bayappaduREn

[P_R]

Luck by Chance

Liked all performances

Rishi Kapoor, Farhan Akthar, Konkona and Hrithik.
Even Dimple and Isha Shravani were good.

Juhi ellAm pOna thadavai close-A gavanikka vittuttEn. :clap:

[Plum]

[tscii:f544eac5de]On Hirani vs Chetan Bhagat (http://sudhishkamath.com/2010/01/06/five-point-someone-vs-3-idiots-a-closer-look/)
I dont admire Sudesa kaamugan(tip:Feeyaar) much but he has taken the pains(presumably) of re-reading FPS, and a detailed analysis on FPS vs 3I.
I agree with him when he says these:

The ‘Work for Hire’ is a generic clause that negates all contribution from the writer and transfers ownership of the idea to the producer and the work is treated as commissioned. Bhagat unwittingly signed a contract with this deadly clause that now leaves him helpless.



There’s what you can do legally and what you have to do morally. Especially, when you teach us moral science lessons film after film.

Thats snazzily put. Bravo, mOnE Sudesaa!


Hirani has fallen in my eyes. If this can happen to one of the most popular writers in the country, then imagine the plight of the lesser known.


And this:

Hirani and Co ought to learn from Vishal Bhardwaj who credited a rather unknown Cajetan Boy for just the idea of Kaminey right at the beginning of the film and even named a character after the screenwriter he met at a seminar.

Well said!


I find it hard to believe that a guy like Aamir Khan who spends hours researching his look for every film and goes to insane levels chasing perfection hadn’t read Five Point Someone before he agreed to do the film, much before the script was ready.

I remember Udhiri PookkaL having credit to Pudhumaipithan much before anything else in the titles just after the acting cast. Now, I havent read it but I have read that "sitrannai" is just one small strand of udhiripookkaL.

Introspection point for Hirani, Chopra and Khan:
"avan manusan. nI manusanA?"







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[MADDY]

all these controversies were part of contract to hype up the sales of that book........in press meets, Hirani was repeatedly saying "if you have doubts, read the book and come back" :lol2: .......its a publicity for the film as well, the way VVChopra slammed journalists reg this and how there was coverage for this item in news channels for 2 days - it all sounded so phony and unbelievable........

how many of us, who liked 3Idiots, are going to read the book and spit on Hirani's lie?? this "controversy drama" is worth a risk for hirani-bhagat......sudish kamat has done his part by playing into the hands of their "deal to create controversy" :lol: ...thanks Plum, for keeping interest on this film alive here :thumbsup:

[P_R]

Arnab Goswami once came on tv about some issue screaming as usual. He said "why is this issue being publicized ??"

ngoyyAla, ippo nee enna paNNikittu irukka ?

[MADDY]

Arnab Goswami once came on tv about some issue screaming as usual. He said "why is this issue being publicized ??"

ngoyyAla, ippo nee enna paNNikittu irukka ?

avan onnu pesa aarambippaan - naduvulaye adha marandhuduvaan :lol:

ippa dhaan slumdaak millionare credits paathen - Vikas Swarup is credited right after simon beaufoy and producers........"based on novel "Q&A" by Vikas Swarup"........hmmm, sevappa irukkravan nallavana dhaan iruppaanda

PR, have u watched SDM??

[Plum]

Maddy, the issue is not about 3I or Hirani . It is about credit to writer. The pertinent point is how do you credit the writer? To suggest that Khan and co engineered this controversy in collusion with Bhagat is laughable.
1) If that is true, it shows they didn't have confidence in their film, then? Well, well, well.
2) This does nothing much for the movie or the book. Just like Vikas Swarup's Q&A got republished with "now an oscar winning movie", that got the necessary publicity. If you are saying Aaamir Khan and co engineered this controversy, you are really saying he indulged in a cheap trick. I think you'd not want to say that - no?
Anyway, Hirani and VVC have previous in this and for once, Sudesan has done his research and put forth his allegations logically.

Funny thing is Khan fans have a lose-lose. Support him, and you are really supporting the lack of credit to writer; try to wash it as publcity stunt, then your hero comes across as a cheap trick chupramani.

Chetan Bhagat may not be a great writer, and FPS may not be a great book but what Hirani etc did here was reprehensible and shows their attitude towards writers. Point is if a popular author can meet this fate, what about lesser known ones?

Few years back, a composer sued the Roshans and kiruthigai compromised his case by presenting in the court that "Rakeshji is heart patient so he should not be punished/penalised". In effect he admitted guilt but was just pleading for reduction in punishment on compassionate grounds The composer whose work they had stolen got compensation. That was a good beginning to expose plagiarism in Bollywood but unfortunately, that is a 1 in a million case.

The quality of bollywood films should not blind us to their personal faults.

[Bala (Karthik)]

We wish Thalaivar himself does better in these aspects! :(

[Bala (Karthik)]

Hiranandani muzhiye seriyilla :x

[MADDY]

Hiranandani muzhiye seriyilla :x

:rotfl: Lage raho-kke neraya accusations vandhudhunga

Plum, i found it all very phony - why did chetan raise issue after 1 week or so etc.......Aamir khan mela ellam enakku onnum perusa idhu illa - he had sidetracked amol and i felt sorry for amol..........

i do cringe at 'chupramani' type of name calling but i will even if its directed at surya.....

[MADDY]

http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/2010/01/23/13692/

happy that finally Arjun Rampal is getting recognised :clap:


award for the Best Popular Film has gone to Dibakar Banerjee's Oye Lucky! Lucky Oye!

:clap:

who is best MD?? 2008 - rahman was the best, aana kudukka maattanga, he has exceeded his quota :D or Amit for Aamir? :bluejump:

[Plum]

Arjun Rampal-A? Maddy, he in your list? :roll:

[MADDY]

Arjun Rampal-A? Maddy, he in your list? :roll:

yes, i liked his performances in Moksh, om shanti om, rock on and i see you - he has a good screen presence........i donno if he deserves a NA and all for that...... :)

[P_R]

PR, have u watched SDM??
Yes. But puk ellAm padichchadhillai. Essentially Indian writing in English oru allergy. adhulaiyum best seller double allergy. PodhuvA dead authors book mattum dhaan padikkiradhu.

[P_R]

yes, i liked his performances in Moksh indhiyAvulEyE indha padam naan mattum dhaan pArthEn nu ninaichEn :lol2:


இந்த மதுரை பந்தல்காரன் படத்துக்கு தொடர்ந்து அவார்ட் எனக்கு சுத்தமா பிடிக்கலை :x

Btw appo Priyangavukku 2008, 2009 back to back awards-A ?

Bollywood-ku ivvaLo award-A ? Plum seekiram ban aayiruvaar-nu edhirpaakkuREn.

[littlemaster1982]

Bollywood-ku ivvaLo award-A ? Plum seekiram ban aayiruvaar-nu edhirpaakkuREn.

:lol:

[equanimus]

இந்த மதுரை பந்தல்காரன் படத்துக்கு தொடர்ந்து அவார்ட் எனக்கு சுத்தமா பிடிக்கலை :x
:lol2: Adoor, Aravindan range 'kku ivar officially oru National Award director AyittArunnu nenaikkumpOdhu en nenju padhaRudhu...

[AravindMano]

இந்த மதுரை பந்தல்காரன் படத்துக்கு தொடர்ந்து அவார்ட் எனக்கு சுத்தமா பிடிக்கலை :x
:lol2: Adoor, Aravindan range 'kku ivar officially oru National Award director AyittArunnu nenaikkumpOdhu en nenju padhaRudhu...

:lol: Avarta solli, "Jury" nu oru padam edukka solli ellaaraiyum kizhi kizhi nu kizhikka sollanum.

[MADDY]

:lol: Avarta solli, "Jury" nu oru padam edukka solli ellaaraiyum kizhi kizhi nu kizhikka sollanum.

:rotfl:

Vadivelu: kambeni ragasiyam ellam veliya solladhaaadaa (in a pleading tone) :lol:

Fashion ellam - shabba :( ......now she wont get it for kaminey :x

[P_R]

Mahi Gill next year
adibumbai udaichudhukku oru award urudhi

[MADDY]

Mahi Gill next year
adibumbai udaichudhukku oru award urudhi

kadhavu?? total area damage :lol:

if i were jury i would let DevD sweep all awards except for best screenplay to kaminey

[Plum]

Bollywood-ku ivvaLo award-A ? Plum seekiram ban aayiruvaar-nu edhirpaakkuREn.

:lol:

adhAn moderator-ku envelope koduthA thappichuralAmAmE?
(andha cheque anuppichanE, cash AchA kanfaarm paNNunga :lol:)

[Bala (Karthik)]

Madhurai Pandhalkaaran yaaru nu velanga konjam neramaachu :lol:

[Plum]

Madhurai Pandhalkaaran yaaru nu velanga konjam neramaachu :lol:
enakkU innum doubt - dhAdikaaran dhAnE?

[littlemaster1982]

Madhur Bhandarkar thaadi vechiruppara :roll:

[AravindMano]

Ennamo thappu nadandhurukku. Thaadikkaarar nahi.

[MADDY]

i thot it was straight forward*

மதுரை = Madhur
பந்தல்காரன் = Bhandarkar

:roll:

*if i find it straight forward, then vera edhavadhu dhaan irukkum :P

[Plum]

i thot it was straight forward*

மதுரை = Madhur
பந்தல்காரன் = Bhandarkar

:roll:

*if i find it straight forward, then vera edhavadhu dhaan irukkum :P

oh modhalla Feeyaar avarukku madurai pandaaragannu pEru vechAru so I got confused.
idhula sasikumar subramanyapurathula Edho pandhal adhu idhunnu konja nEram OttuvApla. So, madurai +pandhal sErthu Sasikumar-Onu nenaichuttEn :-)

[P_R]

கலைப்படைப்பு என்றாலும் கலைச்சொல் என்றாலும் அர்த்தப்படுத்திக்கொள்வது வாசகர்கள் பருப்பு.

[Sanjeevi]

கலைப்படைப்பு என்றாலும் கலைச்சொல் என்றாலும் அர்த்தப்படுத்திக்கொள்வது வாசகர்கள் பருப்பு.

அடப்பாவிகளா தமிழிலும் இந்த விளையாட்டை ஆரம்பிச்சுட்டீங்களா :lol:

[MADDY]

கலைப்படைப்பு என்றாலும் கலைச்சொல் என்றாலும் அர்த்தப்படுத்திக்கொள்வது வாசகர்கள் பருப்பு.

அடப்பாவிகளா தமிழிலும் இந்த விளையாட்டை ஆரம்பிச்சுட்டீங்களா :lol:

pulikutty senthil: idhu enga section, naanga englees-la vilayaduvom, tamil-la vilayaduvom, french-la vilayaduvom - adha ketka neenga yaaru - naanga periya edam :lol:

[Plum]

[url=http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/2010/01/23/review-veer/Baradwaj cant get himself to trash even Veer[/url]

Well, indhi-la enna kuppai vENA pAppAr pOlirukku...

[MADDY]

avaroda top10 favorite movies of the decade-la "Devdas" (not Devd) irundhudhu paathela?? :lol:

the fact that he found some creative vision and something essentially vintage in Ajabpremkigazabkahani has really punctured his credibility in my eyes :(

[P_R]

thitti dhaanE ezhudhi irukaapla
"Unadulterated tripe" -ai vida oru nEsanal neespaper-la eppidi ezhudha mudiyum ?

[Bala (Karthik)]

Ajay Atul enna kulam,gothram? Marathi nu theriyeen but DevD, Dilli 6-a vida nallava music pottaaru?
Yeah, these NA are strictly N.A but irundhaalum oru GK ku ketten

[P_R]

Oi DevD, Dilli 6 ellAm 2009-nA.

indha awards 2008-ku aakum.


Ajay Atul sEmbil: http://www.dhingana.com/search/ajay-atul/songs-music

neengallAm kEttuttu sollunga.

[littlemaster1982]

Naan Kadavul is a 2009 release. Ennappa kuzhappureenga :confused2: If this is based on date of Censor certificate, then when did Delhi 6 got it?

[MADDY]

appadiye irundhalum 2008-la

Amit:
Aamir - andha grunge rock number, sufi number ellam :(

A.R.Rahman:
Ada
JTYJN
Jodha Akbar
Yuvraaj

[MADDY]

Naan Kadavul is a 2009 release. Ennappa kuzhappureenga :confused2: If this is based on date of Censor certificate, then when did Delhi 6 got it?

NK must have been registered with committee in 2008 itself.....NA are going a year late......2009 awards will be announced in 2011 :lol:


If this is based on date of Censor certificate, then when did Delhi 6 got it?

why did delhi6 got it is a more relevant question :lol:

[P_R]

Naan Kadavul is a 2009 release. Ennappa kuzhappureenga :confused2: If this is based on date of Censor certificate, then when did Delhi 6 got it?

Dilli 6 was released in March 2009.

[littlemaster1982]

If this is based on date of Censor certificate, then when did Delhi 6 got it?

why did delhi6 got it is a more relevant question :lol:

:lol: That's a different story altogether :cry:

[littlemaster1982]

Naan Kadavul is a 2009 release. Ennappa kuzhappureenga :confused2: If this is based on date of Censor certificate, then when did Delhi 6 got it?

Dilli 6 was released in March 2009.

No. 20 Feb 2009. Neenga paarthadhudhan March :poke:

NK got released just 2 weeks ahead of D6. Not sure if D6 was censored before Jan 2009 :?

[P_R]

No. 20 Feb 2009. Neenga paarthadhudhan March :poke:

naan paakuravaraikkum andha padathai ellAm reNdu vaaram unga oorla Oda vitturukkeenga. ungaLai sollaNum.

[littlemaster1982]

No. 20 Feb 2009. Neenga paarthadhudhan March :poke:

naan paakuravaraikkum andha padathai ellAm reNdu vaaram unga oorla Oda vitturukkeenga. ungaLai sollaNum.

Thalaivar kashtapattu potta pattukkaga konja naal oduchu, adhu kooda porukkalaiya ungalukku :cry:

[MADDY]

naan paakuravaraikkum andha padathai ellAm reNdu vaaram unga oorla Oda vitturukkeenga. ungaLai sollaNum.

Im guilty of this charge-nnu LM avatar-la irukkuravare othhukittare (pose appadiye match aagudhu :lol: )

[P_R]

100 pages mudinchu. adutha dhreat-ai Flummanaar open paNNANumnu naan aasaippadurEn :lol2:

[MADDY]

100 pages mudinchu. adutha dhreat-ai Flummanaar open paNNANumnu naan aasaippadurEn :lol2:

im already open yaa

http://mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=13890

[Querida]

"Dhobhi Ghat"

yes the title was misleading, in which one tends to think it's going to be some documentary type story of Dhobis...which certainly would have been engrossing as well.

It would have been better if they had kept the subtitle "Mumbai Diaries" as the main title.

The glimpses into four people lives: a painter, a young bride, an american born indian tourist, and a dhobhi and how everyone more or less connects to one another.

I for the most part enjoyed it, it made me relive my memories of my brief time in Mumbai, some may call it artsy or modern. I liked the painting at the end for sure.

[Sarna]

Dabangg - pala class kuppai'galukku naduvil oru nalla masala :2thumbsup:

[Querida]

A revisit to a musical treat, "Rangeela"...the songs, the bgm, the dancing, the scenes...always an exhilarating experience!!

"Break Ke Baad" Deepika looks more natural than when I last saw her in "Om Shanti Om", tough I guess to play a negatively-tinged character, essentially a user who takes for granted her charming prince who "maturely" finds out he's not brave enough to make his own life decisions...you know how it ends...but you almost wish it ended more starkly...kudos to Sharmila Tagore as Mummy Dearest...she got the most biting lines:

Mom to Daughter Deepika: "you are not special because everyone loves you, you are special because a few people love you very much, in spite of who you are." OUCH!

"Saath Khoon Maaf"

dark tale in which you're counting off you fingers how many hubbies have been offed...predictable in a way that you know they get offed just who, how and why remains to be seen. Nice treat to see KKS appearance. IMO the Poet got off too easy :evil:
Nevertheless an engaging watch...Songs "Darling" is addictive and "Awaara" is haunting. "Dil Dil Hai" and "O Mama" were suitably corny.

[Querida]

"Guzaarish" loved this movie! Bittersweet and so achingly artistic, thought-provoking and passionate throughout! Hrithik really impressed!!!

"Action Replayy" fun, treat-for-the-eyes movie, could have delved deeper into the whole time machine, messing with time concept but I guess they were aiming for a more light-hearted rom-com feel....makes you come away with the feeling of "if it only were that easy"...special mention for Aditya Roy Kapoor and his formidable fro...he seems like someone who likes to choose their films wisely so far...

[arthi2780]

Yeh Saali Zindagi => After a long time I have witnessed a wonderful Hindi Movie.

Game => Dud

[Querida]

Watched "Jhoom Barabar Jhoom", knew it was a mindless peice of fuzz, but it was fun/funny while it lasted
liked Bobby's mamma's boy role and Abhishek's "classy" role :))

Did not know what Amitabh was doing in the movie...with his ridiculous hat and effeminate clothing...looked really ungainly for once.

Really liked "Bole Halke Halke song"

[Querida]

Watched "No One Killed Jessica" chose it last minute over "Salaam Namaste"

I am overall very happy that I made the switch-over but I'm sure my bp wouldn't agree...
Truly was edge of my seat not out of awe/excitement but out of sheer frustration at how appalling the situation was
Of course it was a great feeling of catharsis towards the end when the media takes takes the issue into their own hands
still, how many people of lesser means have been trampled, suffocated and forgotten in reality... :(

[kubrick]

DUM MAARO DUM: It started off very well, was expecting one extremely racy action film on the lines of sholay and all. But it started losing pace, tempo, story, direction, clarity half way through. Ends up being a very dull movie. Liked Abhishek Bachchan's and Rana Dagubati's acting. Nothing much to say about this one. Deepika, Oomph!

[Sunil_M88]

Ready -

I haven't seen the original telugu fare so can't compare however the hindi version is getting an amazing response. It's been ages, since I last saw a complete family entertainer. Comedy, romance, songs, drama and action.

[Plum]

Ready- idhu uthamaputhiran dhAnE?

[ajaybaskar]

அதேதான்.....