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Sudhaama

17th May 2006, 09:33 PM

some one please predict who is going to be the next CM of TN. seems that there are quite knowledgeable astronomers here AMR has indirectly predicted that "MK" will loose and JJ will win....atleast that is what I understoood from his words....

The predictions of the Astrologer in the above case on Tamilnadu's future, have been worked out on the Gochara-system of Astrology...

...which is based on movement of Planets in relation to the countries

They are different, and may sometimes come true...

If the above prediction of the Astrologer Mr. AMR... does not come true,...

... we should not blame either the Astrology nor the Astrologer....

... because in such cases by Gochara... it is more a matter of chance than the Scientific forecast.

Why can't both MK and J's astrological charts be analysed and some result could be predicted?After all they are the primadonna of their respective parties! It clearly shows that astrology is bogus.[/quote]

Dear abbydoss

Please remember that I am neither an Astrologer... nor of any career linked with it....but ONLY A CLIENT ... with Staunch belief in this Occult-Science.

Whatever I am presenting here, are from the wide knowledge gained by professional contacts, Books& Magazine study, and Practical experience on the field realities of several families, observed during the past about 60 years.

But I am neither interested to debate with you... whether Astrology is Bogus or Genuine... nor will try to convince you.

However I put forth the facts... in reply to yours... if anybody is interested to know more.. .AS A CLIENT... present or prospective..

I have already answered on this point you raised now... I further clarify.

Horoscopic-study on the Individuals concerned... such as Mr. Karunanidhi in comparison to that of Ms. Jayalalitha... alone CAN COME TRUE.... and so RELIABLE.

Whether such an Analysis prior to Election was conducted by any renowned Astrologer of proven competence... I am not aware of.

But here too...We must keep in mind these important and basic factors .

(1) When the medication on a patient is not effective or results in failure, we do not blame the Medical-Science... but ONLY THE PROFESSIONAL. concerned.

... Same approach pertaining to Lawers, Engineers and such other Professionals too.

Then why in the case of Astrology alone... we should find fault with the Subject...irrespective of Professional concerned?

(2) Even amongst Doctors, Lawers and Engineers... for example... we find difference of Prescription / Advice / Conclusions... even far contrary and mutually contradictory too.... ON ONE AND THE SAME CASE...backed with ONE SOLE DATA.

(3) Medical-Doctors, Lawers, Engineers and such other Professionals by Wisdom... get qualified to practice their respective profession... by the support of their KNOWLEDGE ALONE...authenticated by Educational Qualifications only....

.. whereas in the Typical Profession as Astrologer... the main demand is... Spiritual -power ( Soul-power) ...

..And so the highly Spirituallistic Astrologer... easily gets access to his thoughts and attention.. the specific Subhayogas and Avayogas...

...in the Intricate and Extremely tough subject of Astrology.. alongside combative Dasa-bhukthis..

... which are quite important in comparative analysis.... between the persons concerned.

Spiritualism can be developed and maintained BY ANYBODY of high Human- qualities coupled with Noble mentality...as also by Meditation...

..which gets marred by Vicious propensities like Avariciousness, Jealousy, Vengeance and Wrath.

I have curiously observed... during my long past ...

...that even an one-time popular Astrologer ... has miserably failed subsequently... in spite of his added exerience...

...because of his personal deterioration from the Best to the Worst.....

...by Debauchery, Drunkenness, Money-pride, Professional Ego,.. Deeds by Jealousy and Wickedness or the like, subsequently....

... in spite of undiminished competence by Knowledge. on his profession.

So I assert ... that Soul-Power plays a Leading Role for the Astrologer unlike other Professionals ensuring competence by Knowledge alone.

That is why... there is a Sanskrit Proverb... that the Best professionals in the Astrological and Medical consultants... are found in...

BALA-JOSYA and VAIDHYA-VRIDDHA ...Meaning..

In case of Medicals...the Vast Experienced.. Professional .. Old-aged, is preferable....

...SINCE KNOWLEDGE ALONE by Study and Experience will suffice.

Whereas in case of Astrological consultant... YOUNG ASTROLOGER IS PREFERABLE... irrespective of Experience ...

...which indirectly denotes his personal suitability...

.. by KNOWLEDGE COUPLED WITH SOUL-POWER ...

... which can be easily developed during youth by deep endeavour... better than in old age.

johntony

18th May 2006, 03:50 AM

At my 18`s i dont belives in astrology even in god. my eduction was got interrupted due to some unimaginable factors,
i was very shocked and dissappointed at that time, my brain stops working.

i was tried my best but i dont succeeded.after 2 yr period of desperation & unsucces i face a good time when i was selected in a exam.after 1 yr of good time, i also face another bad time of 2 yr
i cant imagine that , but this time was not too bad compairing to first.i learn a lot during these bad periods.

i lost all my best freinds (they leaves me cause my unsuccessness that time) but i got more reliable friends then the old was,who helped me in tough time. one of my best freinds brother is of angry nature, where ever he goes he always gets a panga with others, not a single day i heard that he lived peacefully.

so my freinds mother consult a atrologer, he told that the moon in his horoscope is very weak,he advised them to wear him a big pearl , after apply this add what immediately happend i dont know because i was fully concentrate on my exams that time.after one month around when i met him i heard a positive results from his family members and neighbours.

that is an incidence after that i realized something is true in indian astrology. i also met the astrologer and asked him why i faced disturbance in education, he replies at that time i was influenced by the dasha of ketu which sits in my horoscope in 5`th house(a house related with education, mind-power,sons of native etc.). a many private things he told me about my past time was also true.

10 years passed to this incidance, through that day to till day i am studied various books on astrology, not only study but through practical i am reached on this conclusion that this shastra is able to explain that we could not able to sense through our limited powered sensible organs(eves,ears,nose,etc.)

the modern science & its principles are mainly based on the conclusions we received & observed by our limited sensible organs thats why modern science does not able to found any reality in astrology.

though i am an electronic engineer, deeply belives in astrology & modern science too, i reads a lots of indian spiritual books ( including swami vivekanand ,ramkrishna paramahansa, osho,swami dayanand saraswati & many about indian history)
reached on the conclusion that the jyotish shastra (that was told the eyes of the vedas) was being very popular at our old ages,
& though its popularity there were also be many quakes( same that now a days we saw many quake doctors pratising in rural areas), who becomes astrologer reading only one or two books, were the main reasons to lowering the prestige of jyotish in the public.

jyoish is not a science it is a vigyan(sanskrit) by practising of that one could got vidya ( ya vidya va vimuktaye). in vedas it is told vidya is the one who meets u to the god. for vidya u dont need any teaching( shiksha) but its a plus point to get vidya. shiksha (knowledge related to any matter on these physical world), vidya(knowledge which motivate anyones to the god i.e. creator of the physical world)

many peoples does not distinguish between shiksha & vidya
they think both are same(i was also when i dont know any thing about indian sprituality) .jyotish is a very holy vigyan that demands holiness, purity, highest character qualites & moral values from its practitioners.

if astrology is a psuedo science than why there are so many expensive softwares are developed by many talented software professionls & why there are so many astrological portals on web in this 21`st century. any psuedo scinence does not have so much long life, if it is be a psuedo than no one on this earth can never ever heard name of the astrology in the past 1000 years.

imagine anyone without a poetry inside him can enjoy a poem?
imagine anyone without music inside him can enjoy a song?
imagine anyone without a scientfic attitude in him can study science?
think same for the astrology.

Sudhaama

18th May 2006, 07:09 AM

At my 18`s i dont belives in astrology even in god. my eduction was got interrupted due to some unimaginable factors, i was very shocked and dissappointed at that time, my brain stops working.

i was tried my best but i dont succeeded.after 2 yr period of desperation & unsucces i face a good time when i was selected in a exam.after 1 yr of good time, i also face another bad time of 2 yr
i cant imagine that , but this time was not too bad compairing to first.i learn a lot during these bad periods.

i lost all my best freinds (they leaves me cause my unsuccessness that time) but i got more reliable friends then the old was,who helped me in tough time. one of my best freinds brother is of angry nature, where ever he goes he always gets a panga with others, not a single day i heard that he lived peacefully.

so my freinds mother consult a atrologer, he told that the moon in his horoscope is very weak,he advised them to wear him a big pearl , after apply this add what immediately happend i dont know because i was fully concentrate on my exams that time.after one month around when i met him i heard a positive results from his family members and neighbours.

that is an incidence after that i realized something is true in indian astrology. i also met the astrologer and asked him why i faced disturbance in education, he replies at that time i was influenced by the dasha of ketu which sits in my horoscope in 5`th house(a house related with education, mind-power,sons of native etc.). a many private things he told me about my past time was also true.

10 years passed to this incidance, through that day to till day i am studied various books on astrology, not only study but through practical i am reached on this conclusion that this shastra is able to explain that we could not able to sense through our limited powered sensible organs(eves,ears,nose,etc.)

the modern science & its principles are mainly based on the conclusions we received & observed by our limited sensible organs thats why modern science does not able to found any reality in astrology.

though i am an electronic engineer, deeply belives in astrology & modern science too, i reads a lots of indian spiritual books ( including swami vivekanand ,ramkrishna paramahansa, osho,swami dayanand saraswati & many about indian history)
reached on the conclusion that the jyotish shastra (that was told the eyes of the vedas) was being very popular at our old ages,
& though its popularity there were also be many quakes( same that now a days we saw many quake doctors pratising in rural areas), who becomes astrologer reading only one or two books, were the main reasons to lowering the prestige of jyotish in the public.

jyoish is not a science it is a vigyan(sanskrit) by practising of that one could got vidya ( ya vidya va vimuktaye). in vedas it is told vidya is the one who meets u to the god. for vidya u dont need any teaching( shiksha) but its a plus point to get vidya. shiksha (knowledge related to any matter on these physical world), vidya(knowledge which motivate anyones to the god i.e. creator of the physical world)

many peoples does not distinguish between shiksha & vidya
they think both are same(i was also when i dont know any thing about indian sprituality) .jyotish is a very holy vigyan that demands holiness, purity, highest character qualites & moral values from its practitioners.

if astrology is a psuedo science than why there are so many expensive softwares are developed by many talented software professionls & why there are so many astrological portals on web in this 21`st century. any psuedo scinence does not have so much long life, if it is be a psuedo than no one on this earth can never ever heard name of the astrology in the past 1000 years.

imagine anyone without a poetry inside him can enjoy a poem?
imagine anyone without music inside him can enjoy a song?
imagine anyone without a scientfic attitude in him can study science?
think same for the astrology.

Dear Johntony,

Nice. Thanks for the pains taken, to post narrative and outspoken presentation.

With best Wishes,
Sudhaama.

Sudhaama

20th May 2006, 06:48 PM

...

Best REMEDY... for Dosha-Jathakam.?

When some of the Horoscopes are having Doshas ...Defective / Ill-lucky / Deficient

...Astrologers used to prescribe some GRAHA-PREETHI / SANTHI / PARIHAARAAS... through Specific Manthras and Rituals.

There are THREE MORE alternatives as solutions.

One is by MANI-SASTHRA... Wearing the appropriate Gems on the body

...with Rings or some such jewels, conforming to the advice of the Astrologer and Mani-sasthra Expert.

Second one is... by fervent Prayer to God of ones own faith and choice, seeking remedy.

Swami Thyagaraja says..."Graha-balam aemi?...Ramanugraha balamae balam...

..meaning..."If and when Rama-anugraham (God's grace) is available to a person, what Navagraha-strength can overpower?

.. the MIGHTIEST.... can be... ONLY the GOD'S GRACE !!!

Third alternative is the practical one... to PLEASE GOD...by INDIRECT SERVICE to Him... the easiest way.

How?... By HUMANITARIAN SOCIAL SERVICE... since God is the Universal protector...it means sharing with His Noble-cause

Out of several instances of my experiences, I quote one ... the TRUE EVENT

One poor man, a Temple-cook could not get his daughter married until her age 28, despite his strenuous efforts for about 10 years...

...only because the Girl's Horoscope was of KALATHRA-DOSHAM... serious impediment affecting the marriage prospects

He lamented to me one day... on his very first introduction itself .

...I advised him ..."The simplest solution is by RELEVANT Compensatory Social service,

...which alone can immensely please God EASILY.. and consequently fetch the Divine- Remedy...

...So search out for another poor man like you who too is having SIMILAR PROBLEM of Kalathra-Dosham ...

... As you would do to your daughter... SINCERELY AND WHOLE- HEARTEDLY...

..by persuasion with the Groom's parents, highlighting the Bride's Plus- points in other aspects....

...similarly you SERVE for that Parent's interests for their daughter...

...Then see the After-effect.... God will take care of you"

Accordingly he did for three girls of different families and got them married... upto the immense satisfaction of those aliens.

After some time, One day ...he being a Cook ...was employed for a Rich-girl's marriage...

In the course of the day... he was called by a Stranger couple who said...

"You see Mr. Krishna... We the Invitees for this marriage,. are quite rich.... Our only son of 30 years, was refusing to marry until now. But I wonder he saw your daughter here and expressed his willingness to marry her. ..!!

... So, even though you are of very low status just as a cook, we are prepared to have your daughter married to our affectionate son of high status and good calibre... What do you say?"

This cook could not believe his ears... Then, just for his satisfaction he consulted an Astrologer who said OK.

The marriage was conducted in a grand scale at the Groom's expense... and now leading a Happy married life with children

The girl was not so pretty but just of mediocre good-look. But what impressed the Boy... so as to prefer her?

God alone knows.!!!... The Girl herself too feels...it is a MYSTERY.!!!

johntony

21st May 2006, 02:11 AM

At my 18`s i dont belives in astrology even in god. my eduction was got interrupted due to some unimaginable factors, i was very shocked and dissappointed at that time, my brain stops working.

i was tried my best but i dont succeeded.after 2 yr period of desperation & unsucces i face a good time when i was selected in a exam.after 1 yr of good time, i also face another bad time of 2 yr
i cant imagine that , but this time was not too bad compairing to first.i learn a lot during these bad periods.

i lost all my best freinds (they leaves me cause my unsuccessness that time) but i got more reliable friends then the old was,who helped me in tough time. one of my best freinds brother is of angry nature, where ever he goes he always gets a panga with others, not a single day i heard that he lived peacefully.

so my freinds mother consult a atrologer, he told that the moon in his horoscope is very weak,he advised them to wear him a big pearl , after apply this add what immediately happend i dont know because i was fully concentrate on my exams that time.after one month around when i met him i heard a positive results from his family members and neighbours.

that is an incidence after that i realized something is true in indian astrology. i also met the astrologer and asked him why i faced disturbance in education, he replies at that time i was influenced by the dasha of ketu which sits in my horoscope in 5`th house(a house related with education, mind-power,sons of native etc.). a many private things he told me about my past time was also true.

10 years passed to this incidance, through that day to till day i am studied various books on astrology, not only study but through practical i am reached on this conclusion that this shastra is able to explain that we could not able to sense through our limited powered sensible organs(eves,ears,nose,etc.)

the modern science & its principles are mainly based on the conclusions we received & observed by our limited sensible organs thats why modern science does not able to found any reality in astrology.

though i am an electronic engineer, deeply belives in astrology & modern science too, i reads a lots of indian spiritual books ( including swami vivekanand ,ramkrishna paramahansa, osho,swami dayanand saraswati & many about indian history)
reached on the conclusion that the jyotish shastra (that was told the eyes of the vedas) was being very popular at our old ages,
& though its popularity there were also be many quakes( same that now a days we saw many quake doctors pratising in rural areas), who becomes astrologer reading only one or two books, were the main reasons to lowering the prestige of jyotish in the public.

jyoish is not a science it is a vigyan(sanskrit) by practising of that one could got vidya ( ya vidya va vimuktaye). in vedas it is told vidya is the one who meets u to the god. for vidya u dont need any teaching( shiksha) but its a plus point to get vidya. shiksha (knowledge related to any matter on these physical world), vidya(knowledge which motivate anyones to the god i.e. creator of the physical world)

many peoples does not distinguish between shiksha & vidya
they think both are same(i was also when i dont know any thing about indian sprituality) .jyotish is a very holy vigyan that demands holiness, purity, highest character qualites & moral values from its practitioners.

if astrology is a psuedo science than why there are so many expensive softwares are developed by many talented software professionls & why there are so many astrological portals on web in this 21`st century. any psuedo scinence does not have so much long life, if it is be a psuedo than no one on this earth can never ever heard name of the astrology in the past 1000 years.

imagine anyone without a poetry inside him can enjoy a poem?
imagine anyone without music inside him can enjoy a song?
imagine anyone without a scientfic attitude in him can study science?
think same for the astrology.

Dear Johntony,

Nice. Thanks for the pains taken, to post narrative and outspoken presentation.

With best Wishes,
Sudhaama.

Dear sir,
i am not the right person for thanks, it should be given to the yogis & rishi-munis of india by reading their literature i got some little knowledge about astrology & sprituality. :D

selvakumar

23rd July 2006, 05:08 PM

[tscii:f74ed12eee]REVIVING ONE OF MY MOST LOVED THREADS IN THE HUB. I found this article very interesting which answers the main question on astrology

Bill Gates' Future

1.Why aren't people who are born at the same time and place as Bill Gates rich like him?
2.What is special about Bill Gates?
3.What is the future of Bill Gates?
4.Money attracts money; poverty attracts poverty.

Currently the breaking news is that Warren Buffet, the second richest man in the world, is giving most of his money (several billions of dollars) to the foundation of Bill Gates who as everyone knows is the richest man in the world for the past many years. Why would Warren Buffet give the money to Bill Gates’ foundation? Mr. Buffet’s answer is that if you want to play golf, play with Tiger Woods. Buffet’s thinking is that Bill is the right person in the world of philanthropists and it is better to give the money to him so that the money would be properly used. True, no one can question the prudence of Buffet and in my opinion Mr. Buffet has made a good decision.

I am writing this note to my readers who are interested in Vedic Astrology and I thought that I would raise some fundamental questions about the correctness of astrology itself using Bill Gates as an example. Bill Gates was born on October 28, 1955 at 21:15 in the city of Seattle, Washington. The following is his Vedic birth chart with the placement of various planets in different houses.

Why aren't people who are born at the same time and place as Bill Gates rich like him?

The most fundamental question to ask is the following. There are people in Seattle, Washington born at the same time as Bill Gates. Why are they not as rich as Bill Gates or somewhere near to him? One might rightly assume that some of them born at the same time may very likely be poor as well. The natal charts of all those born at the same time will be identical. If at all there are some changes, it will be in the placement of the Moon which is the fastest moving planet. Even the Moon stays in one zodiac sign for about 2 ¼ days. This is an inconvenient question for astrologers. Assuming that some one carries out a research project to collect all the horoscopes of people born at Bill Gates’ birth time in Seattle and present it to a bunch of astrologers, how would they give their readings? Is astrology then a false science? No, it is not.

I have put the question to many renowned astrologers and no one gave me a satisfactory answer except one gentleman. His name is Unnikrishna Panikkar (click for recent article) from Kerala in Southern India. Mr. Panikkar is a divine astrologer and he practices a special form of Vedic astrology called Astamangalam Prasannam. (B.V. Raman, India’s most celebrated astrologer has published a translation of this unique form of astrology. The title is known as “Prasna Marga” in 2 Volumes). Panikkar told me that a person’s chart should be read in relation to six generations of his ancestors – in this case, Bill Gates’ father, his grandfather, his great, great grandfather, etc. going back six generations. The whole idea is that if Bill Gates is rich, it is not simply his doing. It is collectively the merit of six generations of his ancestors. Mr. Panikkar said that if your grandfather or great grandfather had been a bad guy who raped women and murdered someone or even deceived another, you end up paying for it.

To the modern rational mind-set this seems to be unfair, but that is how things work in the world of the souls. Mr. Panikkar speaks about a unique soul genetics which is similar to DNA inheritance. Astamangalam astrology is an amazing science, but unfortunately there are only a few who are good at it and it is difficult to get hold of them to give you a reading. Mr. Panikkar became attracted to me for my spirituality and for about 2 years we have been good friends.

What is special about Bill Gates' chart?
Bill Gates is born at a very auspicious time. It is the thirteenth waxing Moon time and the Moon itself is on the star, Uttarabhadrapada. His incarnation is a direct act of Lord Siva who is the God in charge of removing karma. Students who are following my teaching know that on the 13th Moon (Pradosham Day) during sunset time Siva removes the suffering of people. Like Siva, Bill Gates will alleviate the suffering of people. His birth star Uttarabhadrapada is ruled by Saturn and Hanuman. Saturn himself is in Libra exactly with a debilitated Sun and powerful Venus. The placement of these three planets in his Fifth House from the Ascendant clearly proves that Bill Gates is connected with the Divine, particularly Lord Siva. In order to have a fortunate life one should have a good Ascendant zodiac sign and the Lord this zodiac sign powerfully placed. Bill Gates has Gemini as the Ascendant and Mercury, the Lord of Gemini, is exalted in Virgo. Further, Ketu in the 12th house means that this will be Bill Gates’ last incarnation.

What is the future of Bill Gates?
Bill Gates had been born in India in many, many lifetimes and this memory will kick in very soon for him. He will soon engage himself in researching the occult palm leaves called nadi leaves in Southern India which carries the cure for so many diseases. This research will lead him to become spiritual for the rest of his life. He would soon thereafter be interested in physical immortality and the art of turning the body into light following the Tamil Siddha tradition. He will invest a lot of resources for research into physical immortality.

It is very likely that he may dramatically enter U.S. and world politics. He will be some sort of ruler – U.S. President? The entry will be dramatic and he will do a good job. Eventually Bill Gates will become a yogi and he will establish ashrams all over the world. He will bridge the gap between science and religion.

Money attracts money. Poverty attracts poverty.
Bill Gates attracts money. Likewise the people in the African countries, being already poor, attract only poverty. Is there a way out for the problem? Yes, there is. The answer is in remedial astrology. [/tscii:f74ed12eee]

Sudhaama

30th July 2006, 07:20 AM

[tscii:b722873e5c]REVIVING ONE OF MY MOST LOVED THREADS IN THE HUB. I found this article very interesting which answers the main question on astrology

Bill Gates' Future

1.Why aren't people who are born at the same time and place as Bill Gates rich like him?
2.What is special about Bill Gates?
3.What is the future of Bill Gates?
4.Money attracts money; poverty attracts poverty.

Currently the breaking news is that Warren Buffet, the second richest man in the world, is giving most of his money (several billions of dollars) to the foundation of Bill Gates who as everyone knows is the richest man in the world for the past many years. Why would Warren Buffet give the money to Bill Gates’ foundation? Mr. Buffet’s answer is that if you want to play golf, play with Tiger Woods. Buffet’s thinking is that Bill is the right person in the world of philanthropists and it is better to give the money to him so that the money would be properly used. True, no one can question the prudence of Buffet and in my opinion Mr. Buffet has made a good decision.

I am writing this note to my readers who are interested in Vedic Astrology and I thought that I would raise some fundamental questions about the correctness of astrology itself using Bill Gates as an example. Bill Gates was born on October 28, 1955 at 21:15 in the city of Seattle, Washington. The following is his Vedic birth chart with the placement of various planets in different houses.

Why aren't people who are born at the same time and place as Bill Gates rich like him?

The most fundamental question to ask is the following. There are people in Seattle, Washington born at the same time as Bill Gates. Why are they not as rich as Bill Gates or somewhere near to him? One might rightly assume that some of them born at the same time may very likely be poor as well. The natal charts of all those born at the same time will be identical. If at all there are some changes, it will be in the placement of the Moon which is the fastest moving planet. Even the Moon stays in one zodiac sign for about 2 ¼ days. This is an inconvenient question for astrologers. Assuming that some one carries out a research project to collect all the horoscopes of people born at Bill Gates’ birth time in Seattle and present it to a bunch of astrologers, how would they give their readings? Is astrology then a false science? No, it is not.

I have put the question to many renowned astrologers and no one gave me a satisfactory answer except one gentleman. His name is Unnikrishna Panikkar (click for recent article) from Kerala in Southern India. Mr. Panikkar is a divine astrologer and he practices a special form of Vedic astrology called Astamangalam Prasannam. (B.V. Raman, India’s most celebrated astrologer has published a translation of this unique form of astrology. The title is known as “Prasna Marga” in 2 Volumes). Panikkar told me that a person’s chart should be read in relation to six generations of his ancestors – in this case, Bill Gates’ father, his grandfather, his great, great grandfather, etc. going back six generations. The whole idea is that if Bill Gates is rich, it is not simply his doing. It is collectively the merit of six generations of his ancestors. Mr. Panikkar said that if your grandfather or great grandfather had been a bad guy who raped women and murdered someone or even deceived another, you end up paying for it.

To the modern rational mind-set this seems to be unfair, but that is how things work in the world of the souls. Mr. Panikkar speaks about a unique soul genetics which is similar to DNA inheritance. Astamangalam astrology is an amazing science, but unfortunately there are only a few who are good at it and it is difficult to get hold of them to give you a reading. Mr. Panikkar became attracted to me for my spirituality and for about 2 years we have been good friends.

What is special about Bill Gates' chart?
Bill Gates is born at a very auspicious time. It is the thirteenth waxing Moon time and the Moon itself is on the star, Uttarabhadrapada. His incarnation is a direct act of Lord Siva who is the God in charge of removing karma. Students who are following my teaching know that on the 13th Moon (Pradosham Day) during sunset time Siva removes the suffering of people. Like Siva, Bill Gates will alleviate the suffering of people. His birth star Uttarabhadrapada is ruled by Saturn and Hanuman. Saturn himself is in Libra exactly with a debilitated Sun and powerful Venus. The placement of these three planets in his Fifth House from the Ascendant clearly proves that Bill Gates is connected with the Divine, particularly Lord Siva. In order to have a fortunate life one should have a good Ascendant zodiac sign and the Lord this zodiac sign powerfully placed. Bill Gates has Gemini as the Ascendant and Mercury, the Lord of Gemini, is exalted in Virgo. Further, Ketu in the 12th house means that this will be Bill Gates’ last incarnation.

What is the future of Bill Gates?
Bill Gates had been born in India in many, many lifetimes and this memory will kick in very soon for him. He will soon engage himself in researching the occult palm leaves called nadi leaves in Southern India which carries the cure for so many diseases. This research will lead him to become spiritual for the rest of his life. He would soon thereafter be interested in physical immortality and the art of turning the body into light following the Tamil Siddha tradition. He will invest a lot of resources for research into physical immortality.

It is very likely that he may dramatically enter U.S. and world politics. He will be some sort of ruler – U.S. President? The entry will be dramatic and he will do a good job. Eventually Bill Gates will become a yogi and he will establish ashrams all over the world. He will bridge the gap between science and religion.

Money attracts money. Poverty attracts poverty.
Bill Gates attracts money. Likewise the people in the African countries, being already poor, attract only poverty. Is there a way out for the problem? Yes, there is. The answer is in remedial astrology. [/tscii:b722873e5c]

Beautiful Analysis.... Dear Selvakumar.

I too was quite anxious to know several such Mysteries and Ryddles in Astrology Vs Reality.

And what I have learnt from several Astrological Experts, including Mr. B.V.Raman from Bangalore... supported by my practical observation... are...

(1) Horoscope gets its basic identity not only by the BIRTHTIME... but also the BIRTHPLACE...and its Longitude degree.... to arrive at the location of Lagna / Ascendant. So even though two persons are born at the same time exactly... if the Lagna varies... it makes a lot of difference.

Even for a Dog or Cow born at the same time and place of a child... the Horoscopes will be identical...but will the predictions be same?

Here only comes the degree of extraneous effects from Parents, Brothren and others...

...which are found out from the force of the planets connected with 5th, the Puthra-Sthaanam, 9th the Pithru-Sthanam, 4th the Mathru-sthanam...

...and above all the most important is the SIXTH AND EIGHTH houses...

...which impact a lot differently from person to person... although of identical Horoscopes.... depending on the individuals ancestry.

In brief... the co-related Horoscopes of all others in the family... can give a clear picture on the values of the Subha-Yogas and Ava-yogas in one's Horoscope.

(2) I have observed another strange factor in case of Twins... of same parentage and IDENTICAL HOROSCOPES... in all and every respect, including the moon and the Birth-star too....since born by caesarian... within a few minutes difference at the same Hospital.

Practically I have observed several such cases... where their thoughts and approach.... are far different, eventually leading to varied decisions on the same problem... or predicamant or some such Life-factors....

... be it the Course of Study or Career...or Marriage... Why? How?

There only comes the Question of MIND-APPLICATION ...the greatest Power which influences man to man differently....

...according to his own SELF- MADE... Mind-culture..

... which everyone develops on one's own...IRRESPECTIVE OF HIS / HER Astrological Mind- power...

...which results in different outlook and Decisions too... even contrary to the Astrological influences.

(3) You have raised another interesting and Valid Question...

Why in some families, the Rich continues to be Rich for generations ...

... while the Poor continues to be so...generation after generation too!

And no doubt... the Horoscopes of all within the same generation... need not be identical nor one and all of them can be said to be lucky.. by Yoga-Jathakam...

Here comes the Hereditary practices some families perform to Godly services...

... either to Temples or some such Dharmas....or Social-services.

Such Noble deeds in the current birth will not go in vain... IRRESPECTIVE OF HOROSCOPES

... but will add up or EVEN COUNTER the Ill-effects of any Horoscope.

DHARMO RAKSHATHI RAKSHITHIHA....(Even by Physical-means) means...

...One who protects Dharma is in return PROTECTED BY DHARMA..
...

selvakumar

30th July 2006, 11:17 AM

oh.. Dear Sudhamma Sir,
If I take credit for that analysis, that will become a sin. It is one of the newsletters that I am receiving regularly from one of my favorite astrosites.

Forgive me since that article doesn't have any link. Otherwise, I would have given the same.

BTW, Beautiful explantion. :D
I have a doubt. I have heard much about this "BrahmaHasti Dosha" (Not sure about the spelling) :roll:

Could you please give detailed information on the same? I heard that it is one of deadliest sins. :oops: and can be found from a person's horoscope.

Sudhaama

30th July 2006, 05:31 PM

I have a doubt. I have heard much about this "BrahmaHasti Dosha" (Not sure about the spelling) :roll:

Could you please give detailed information on the same? I heard that it is one of deadliest sins. :oops: and can be found from a person's horoscope.

I am not an Astrologer... but only just an ADMIRER and Client for Astrologers.

Better ask any competent Astrologer.

The correct spelling is...BRAHMA-HATHTHI DHOSHA.

...the Worst Sin committed due to killing a DHARMA- ATHMA (A person of Noble-soul) ...

Normally such Dhoshas especially the worst... are exhibited by the EIGHT HOUSE...

...the Bhava of SUFFERINGS and DIFFICULTIES... caused by deeds of previous births.
...

tfmlover

31st July 2006, 02:09 AM

Nichiro

31st July 2006, 04:30 PM

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Nichiro

31st July 2006, 04:30 PM

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Nichiro

31st July 2006, 04:31 PM

hi good day
found this online might be useful
http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/aug97/0080.html
read under soorya theertham pls

guru in 8th house nullify BRAHMA-HATHTHI DHOSHA ( that if you trust and pray him )

thanks

Guru in 8th house is found to reduce the longevity of a person. I have seen many many charts which corroborate what I wrote.
Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva
Bhava Vridhhi karau Sani.

Guru destroys the bhava he occupies.
Sani increases the bhava he occupies.

Nichiro

Actually it should be "Brahma Hatya" dosha meaning sin of killing a Brahmin.

selvakumar

31st July 2006, 04:55 PM

Guru in 8th house is found to reduce the longevity of a person. I have seen many many charts which corroborate what I wrote.
Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva
Bhava Vridhhi karau Sani.

Guru destroys the bhava he occupies.
Sani increases the bhava he occupies.

Nichiro

Actually it should be "Brahma Hatya" dosha meaning sin of killing a Brahmin.

Dear NICHIRO, Thanks for the valuable piece of information.
I have a doubt. If GURU is in 6th House, does that mean he will destroy that Bhava.. :roll: I mean enemies, disease etc. :roll:
And reg the second one, I have heard about this.. Saturn in 8th house. He increases the longevity of a person ! I mean ..
"NITHYA KANDAM POORNA AAYUSU"
I heard that GURU in 12th House is an indication of BRAHMA-HATHTHI DHOSHA. :roll:

Nichiro

31st July 2006, 05:05 PM

selvakumar

31st July 2006, 05:21 PM

Dear Selvakumar,

I never take old granthas on face value. Guru in 12th increases the income of a person and decreases the " shaiya sukham" bed pleasures of a person. Meaning delays/denies marriage of a person.
Sani in 8th gives a long life .

Guru in 6th is bad for enemies but gives difficulties to maternal uncles and aunts. Also income is hampered.

Nichiro

Hey !! GURU in 12th house increases income :? If GURU is in 12th house, he will have his PAARVAI @ 6th house (thru 7th), 4th house (thru 5th ), 8th house (thru 9th). :?
Does These houses relate to income ? :roll: Then how.. I agree that he will reduce SHAIYA SUKHAM

How GURU in 6th house will affect the income.. He will aspect the 2nd house (through 9th ) Right? Then how ?? :confused2:

P.S: I am a student only.. This would be really helpful for me :)

Nichiro

31st July 2006, 06:00 PM

selvakumar

31st July 2006, 07:15 PM

Nichiro

31st July 2006, 07:22 PM

selvakumar

31st July 2006, 07:29 PM

Selvakumar,

Kuj vat Kethu
Sanivat Rahu.
Rahu is like sani. It increases the house where he sits.
Kethu does not destroy but gives seperation from that karakatva of the house.
If he is in 7th, Kethu may give seperation from wife due to many reasons like work, service, difference of opinion etc.

Nichiro
Rahu, Kethu are chhaya grahas. They show the effect of the lord of the house they occupy...says one principle of astrology.

Nichiro, Thanks for the information. So, If we have RAGHU in 12th house, what does that mean.. :confused2: more expenditure, then :roll:

If that is the case, RAGHU IN 6TH HOUSE SHOULD INCREASE ENEMIES.. Right :?: But RAGHU in 6th house is famous for bringing ENORMOUS LUCK, DESTRUCTION OF ENEMIES etc Again :confused2:

selvakumar

31st July 2006, 07:32 PM

SIGNIFICANCE OF 12TH HOUSE

The 12th house in a horoscope encompasses matters that signify material loss. In practice, any house that is in the 12th from another, would signify loss regarding matters governed by that house. In other words, any given house would indicate loss to the matters governed by the house that lies next to it. So, the seeds for triggering a loss in efforts, courage and communication (ruled by the 3rd house) lie in the 2nd house, loss of conjugal bliss and marital harmony (ruled by 7th house) may be studied from the 6th, and loss of fortune and poise (spiritual equilibrium signified by the 9 th house) may be studied from the 8 th house since it lies in a chart in the 12 th house from the 9 th!

The 12th house, therefore, is not a very easy house in materialistic terms; however, there exist hints in ancient texts that indicate the spiritual significance of the 12th house! It is a house of paramount importance in the horoscopes of religious figures and ascetics. Confusingly, though, it has also been vested with attributes and matters such as 'pleasures of the couch' - happy rests the head that has nothing that remains to be lost, I suppose! Other things that may be studied from the 12th house include the state of one's sleep, dwelling and wandering in lands foreign to one, karmic burdens, investment expenses, institutions and similar issues.

Generally speaking, one's spiritual growth, also known as the quest for knowing oneself, gets a kick start in a major way when one faces 'choices' that pertain to losing something or someone who is extremely dear. During most spiritual journeys, a time comes when one's attachments and clinging must be challenged and subsequently shed. Invariably, experiences at such points in time prove to be the pivots around which the wheel of spiritual progress turns! Whether one actually suffers the loss or merely faces the possibilities of such, and the degree of metamorphosis that such an event or eventuality can bring within oneself, varies between individuals, the profundity of the effect, however, is felt unambiguously.

We can perhaps say that the 12th house signifies the material price that one must pay in order to reap spiritual gains. Obviously, the two 'realities' or realms of awareness hardly enjoy any equivalence in values. What might sound like a terrible loss when awareness is focused in the materialistic plane might not automatically signify something of equal positive or negative value in the spiritual!

Planets that are associated with the 12th house in a horoscope, for instance those that are located in the 12th, are important indicators of the materialistic areas that need work so that one may reap spiritual benefits. The natural significance (role; karakattwa) of such a planet must be taken into account, as well as those things signified by its rulership over houses in the given horoscope.

The sun represents the individuality and ego (which can readily become EGO!) and by virtue of being placed in the 12th house would signify the lure of EGO, WHICH must be overcome by the nativity before any real spiritual advancement can commence. This would be even more so, should Leo be rising in the ascendant, thereby imparting the sun with a natural and temporal or chart-specific focus as during double duty as a significator of the self and ego, two keywords that are primarily studied from the first house! Should such a situation (sun in cancer in a Leo rising nativity) be present in a chart where Saturn the epitome of humbleness rises, the path towards self-effacement becomes harder and not easier! The task, signified by the sun in the 12th remains the same, but the expression and self-perception, thanks to the Saturn in ascendant, lulls one into minimizing the extent of the task! "After all, how much more humble can one appear", is what such a nativity feels? The mantra for someone with such a horoscopic signature obviously is to 'become' humble and not merely be contented with simply "appearing" to be humble!

For someone who is born with Venus in the 12th, the battle becomes one that is fought less at the mental level! Indeed, such may be the plethora of artifacts of pleasure, luxury and distractions that one finds the time and opportunities to think about the soul, much later in the game of earthly existence, perhaps through finding a parental role!

While this may not be cast in stone, more often than not, when one is born with a planet in the 12th house, one is almost assured of 'reminders' from the spirit! These reminders may appear in one of many different forms, but generally are unmistakable and quite often persistent. These could occur during significant transits, and during the periods of dasha (the Vedic system of timing using a special form of progression of the natal moon) of planets situated in the 12th house as well as during periods of planets in the stars ruled by planets that are associated with the 12th. One may choose to treat the 12th house as ones enemy and may try to reduce its impact but running and hiding in the game of spiritual evolution merely delays the inevitable, namely, that growth and maturity is the birthright of the soul and is best handled by facing rather than turning away from opportunities for growth that challenge us throughout life.

Nichiro

31st July 2006, 08:05 PM

Rahu in 6th increases the enemies but it always gives the person special ability to overcome/defeat the enemies.
Rahu in 12th is found to be un happy situation. It sometimes makes a person whimsical, interested in extramarital affairs, cheating wife, govt, Problems , problems with co workers etc.

Each chart needs to be studied in isolation. Generalities do not always apply.

Nichiro

selvakumar

31st July 2006, 08:10 PM

Rahu in 6th increases the enemies but it always gives the person special ability to overcome/defeat the enemies.
Rahu in 12th is found to be un happy situation. It sometimes makes a person whimsical, interested in extramarital affairs, cheating wife, govt, Problems , problems with co workers etc.
Each chart needs to be studied in isolation. Generalities do not always apply.

Nichiro

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: OMG.. Thanks for the information ! :oops: and .........clean bowled here :( What about if it is depleted.. ! I mean in TAURUS

Sudhaama

31st July 2006, 08:18 PM

12th is the house of EXPENSES , hence expenses will be destroyed . Meaning savings will increase and income will also increase. Same house is house of BED PLEASURES. This Guru will destroy Shaiya sukham. I have many charts to prove it.

6th Guru means (6th house is one of the houses for income) hence it is detrimental to income.

Dear Nichiro,

Thanks for making this discussion more lively... and RICH.

(1) Any Astrological conclusion has to be arrived...

(a) not only by the placement of a Planet in a particular house...

b) but also the ownership of that house plus the relation with planet under consideration as well as

(c) other planets aspecting it...and also...

(d) the Kaarakathwam (Committed-Performane)of the Panet concerned... etc.

Thus the placement of Guru in the 6th house...if it be RISHABA or THULA the Sukra's... being Guru's Enemy...will make vast diiference,

... from the cases of MESHA or VIRISCHIKA... the Houses of Mars the friend...

...as well as the cases of MEENAM or DHANUSU... Guru's own Houses...

...and KATAKA...Guru's Ucha (Exaltation) House...

... far more different in MAKARA...his Neecha-(Debilitation) House.

(2) Another point I am unable to understand how you say... that the 6th house relates to income!

In fact it relates to DEBTS... and Concealed wealth... adding constant Worries... the Negative aspects of INCOME.

(3) I have never heard of Guru affecting Saiya-Sukham by its aspecting the 12th House...(related to Bed-pleasures also).

In fact by its beneficiary factor aspecting... it must fortify the 12th Bhava.!.. Is it Not?

How the basic Law and Aspecting-Quality of Guru... works contrary here.?..

...Sorry, I am unable to follow your point.
...

Nichiro

31st July 2006, 09:03 PM

Selvakumar,

6th house is opposite of expenditure.
12th is shaiya sukha sthanam as well as expenditure.
Guru in 12th, IMHO and experience is detrimental to marriage as Guru destroys the house he occupies.

In fact it is only the aspect of Guru which is good and not his occupancy.

Guru in 8th is very bad for longevity and I have many examples of short life people
's charts having Guru in 8th.

Nichiro

tfmlover

1st August 2006, 12:52 AM

8th - house of other people's money , tax , death and rebirth , sex ( small death ), financial spiritual support ,partnership psychological and spiritual death , gambling , inheritance, ,rituals , secrets and tranformation . die and reborn to next level or life after death, reincarnation ,interested in religious occult or the psychic issues , dowry . unearned wealth and long life too .
and if guru in 8th house one will be lucky in those areas .
i am a sudent too .
i always heard guru in 8th house people lived beyond 95

tfmlover

1st August 2006, 01:06 AM

guru in 8th house sexual relationship is more like spiritual connection but

if mars in 12 its just secret affairs unethical cheating
kinky ! ?

same with guru in 12 th house secret sex affairs too . is it true they dont want to marry discreet connections alone satisfactry ?

also mars in 8th house give accidents but guru streches life in 8th house .
nichiri pls tell me bit about mars in 12 th house if you can .

selvakumar

1st August 2006, 10:25 AM

Nichiro

1st August 2006, 04:47 PM

tfmlover/Selvakumar,

Guru in 8th will never give long life unless it is weak and other indications of Lagna lord being strong are there.

Mars in 12th gives a stormy relationship with wife. Men with 12th Mars are generally Hyper sexual. Mama will have a troubled married life.

Elder brother of such men with Mars in 12th have short temper and they speak harshly. Father's brothers (uncles) are quarrelsome.

Generally these attributes are seen from Lagna. In absence of proper birth time/ weak lagna , see these attributes from Moon.

Sudhaama

1st August 2006, 07:10 PM

...
Why Hindus BLESS Males & Females DIFFERENTLY?

tfmlover/Selvakumar, Guru in 8th will never give long life unless it is weak and other indications of Lagna lord being strong are there.

Mars in 12th gives a stormy relationship with wife. Men with 12th Mars are generally Hyper sexual. Mama will have a troubled married life.

Elder brother of such men with Mars in 12th have short temper and they speak harshly. Father's brothers (uncles) are quarrelsome.

Generally these attributes are seen from Lagna. In absence of proper birth time/ weak lagna , see these attributes from Moon.

Beautiful analysis. Thanks Mr Nichiro...

My request to all my friends... Let us not jump here and there... without completing any one point taken up.

Now the points under consideration... CONTINUING and Incomplete are...

...TWO... One by HOUSE ..another by PLANET.

(1) The effect of EIGHTH BHAVA (House) .

(2) The effect of GURU in different Bhavas.

Let us complete these.... then take any other next point... as you all may choose.

Continuing on the EIGHTH HOUSE...

This Bhava is also concerned with ACCIDENTS, and MANGALYA-BHAVA for Women.... as also LUCK.

Why in India... the Elders Bless the Youngsters DIFFERENTLY?.. saying ...

... DHEERGA- AYUSHMAN BHAVA... (Wish You Long Life) in case of Males...and

....DHEERGA SUMANGALI BHAVA...(Wish you Long Married Life) in case of Women.!!

The intention is to NULLIFY THE (Probable) BAD EFFECTS...of the Eighth Bhava...

... so to mean...Free of HURDLES...DIFFICULTIES... ACCIDENTS... WIDOW- HOOD

..indirectly WISHING both.. THE BEST OF LUCK and PROSPERITY.!!!
...

Nichiro

1st August 2006, 08:13 PM

Sudhaama

1st August 2006, 09:59 PM

Respected Sudhaama ji,
Guru in any bhava destroys the bhava (to a grater/lesser extent as per its shadbala strength)
It is Guru's aspect which is beneficial and not occupancy.

So as a thumb rule, I usually check the bhavas aspected by Guru .
Exactly opposite is Sani Bhagwan.
Sani increases the Bhava he occupies and destroys the bhava he aspects with 3rd, 7th and 10th Dristi.

Your point about Deergha Sumangali Bhava ashirwadam is wonderful. By blessing a lady people increase her Mangalya sukham and give longer life to husband (a sort of pariharam?)
Nichiro

Yes. Yes... You are Radically correct on the Opposite qualities of Guru..

By ASPECTS...Guru enhances the values of the House ... while the Sani weakens.

By OCCUPANY...Guru weakens... while Sani Enhances.

I remember to have read a Varaha-mihira Sloka on such a Thumb-rule.

But such a Thumb-rule works opposite by END-RESULT...

...while the respective Houses are the Neecha(Debilitate) ones for the concerned planet.

So to mean..if the Placement of Guru is at its Neecha-House Makara from Lagna (Mithuna) .. or...

... if the Sani is placed at Kumbha / Kanya / Rishaba... when one of them is the 8th house... aspecting its Neecha-House Mesha...

(1) Faces series of Hurdles, Difficulties, Sufferings including the worst poverty, losses but ultimately miraculously gets retrieved towards Success....

...and / or...

(2) Escapes several serious accidents and finally succumbs to a minor accident.

...and / or..

(3) Lives long-life... with sufferings and disappointments... but ultimately leads Glorious days during his last part of life.

One more important factor... in case of both Good and Bad due to such an effect....

Guru renders the Good first followed by the Bad effects...

Sani renders the Bad first and then the Good... as due.

But such predictions are pertaining to such a SINGLE FACTOR of 8th House.

Depending upon other factors of the horoscope, influenced by other planets...

...the degree and intensity may vary as also be reduced or nullified.

...But in case of any Lucky person, we can note the BENEFICIAL EIGHTH House.
...

tfmlover

2nd August 2006, 02:32 AM

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tfmlover

2nd August 2006, 11:01 AM

selvakumar

2nd August 2006, 12:19 PM

i forgot to mention this 8th house jupiter can get favrs from govt including tax office also can be great hawkshaws born detectives , forensic experts .
thanks

Thanks for the information..

Thanks to Sudhamma sir for making the discussions sharp and sweet and to the point !
BTW, I think 8th House GURU should be analysed from different angle .. I mean based on LAGNA as well. I think we can discuss on that from here onwards.

Let's take ARIES ASC ... For a person with that, GURU is lord for 9th and 12th houses..

If he is in 8th house, doesn't that mean weird.. coz He will lose the BAAGYA he will genearlly get from the 9th house. IMO, Luck and other things come mainly from 9TH HOUSE.. Right ??

So, 8TH HOUSE GURU cannot be attributed to luck ! I mean stocks etc :roll:

tfmlover

2nd August 2006, 12:41 PM

selvakumar

2nd August 2006, 12:53 PM

hi selvakumar 8th house jupiter easy come ! unearned
9th house mainly indicates earning ! higher learning .
those with intellectual curiosity,independent attitudes and quickness of mind ( not depending on others )
travel over long distances travel , searching meaning for life thru philosophy, religion . good sense of humour . travelling to foreign land jobs .

Thanks for the info.. My doubt is : for some ASC, GURU brings lot of sufferings.. e.g., ASC - TAURUS.., GEMINI, and most importantly LIBRA..
IN that case, if JUPITER IS IN 8TH HOUSE, I THINK HE WON'T BRING ANYTHING just like that :confused: Right??

So, I think it depends on both ASC and the KARAKATHUVA.. (like how SUDHAMMA put)

and HOW MUCH "MAANGALYA POWER" will be affected if GURU is in 8th house? (Generally)

Nichiro

3rd August 2006, 04:54 PM

Selvakumar,

For Tula lagnam, Guru becomes rank maraka and for Mithuna Lagnam, Guru becomes Badhakadhipathi. Hence His situation in Lagnam is detrimental to a person's well being and overall health, wealth and happiness.

In Meena Lagnam, Guru's situation in Lagnam has been found to be not bad. But I cannot say the same for Dhanus lagnam.

Speaking of karakathwa, situation of a karaka in his own karakathwa sign brings destruction/problems etc . Example is Sukra in 7th, etc.

Nichiro

selvakumar

3rd August 2006, 06:36 PM

Speaking of karakathwa, situation of a karaka in his own karakathwa sign brings destruction/problems etc . Example is Sukra in 7th, etc.

Nichiro

Exactly ! This what they refer as "KAARAKOE BHAVANAASTI" Right?
I have heard the same for GURU in 5th house.(children)

BTW, Let us analyse more on 8th HOUSE. We can start by analysing what will be the impact if the other planets are in the 8th house.

Let's start with the sun.

The effects of SUN in 8th house. I have heard that people with this combination will face marital problems, RAJATHANDANAI etc It also forms "SANYAASA YOGA"
---------
we can continue to discuss on eighth house completely before moving to others

Nichiro

3rd August 2006, 07:11 PM

Sudhaama

3rd August 2006, 08:50 PM

Dear Selvakumar,
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However much I wish, I cannot participate in such lengthy discussions of each planet occupying each bhava and its effects. This is due to a very limited time available to me here in US and also prior astrological commitments which I attend to.

I would love to diuscuss very interesting problems/diseases etc.
Nichiro

Well... Dear Mr. Nichiro, Your convenience is the most important.

So I request you to LEAD THIS THREAD in the way you would prefer...

... making it more INTERESTING TO ALL the Viewers. ..WELCOME..!!!
...

Nichiro

3rd August 2006, 09:26 PM

Friends,
Marraige is the most important of SHODASHA SAMSKARAS .

Very often we see girls/boys well past marriagable age having worried parents asking ,
"when will my daughter/son get married?"

I would in such a case, look for 12th house affliction, 7th house affliction first and their respective lords then on.

SUKRA/GURU IN 7TH ARE BAD. MARS / GURU IN 7TH BAD FOR WOMEN ETC.

WHY NOT POST BIRTH DATA OF SUCH DELAYED CASES AND DISCUSS THE SAME HERE?

Nichiro

tfmlover

4th August 2006, 02:58 AM

selvakumar

4th August 2006, 08:53 AM

I would in such a case, look for 12th house affliction, 7th house affliction first and their respective lords then on.

SUKRA/GURU IN 7TH ARE BAD. MARS / GURU IN 7TH BAD FOR WOMEN ETC.

WHY NOT POST BIRTH DATA OF SUCH DELAYED CASES AND DISCUSS THE SAME HERE?

Nichiro

NIchiro.. Thanks for the suggestion. I think this will be more helpful for others too ! :D

BTW, I am not sure about the BIRTH DATA. But I know one person who has not yet got married. Here are the details

Lagna : Libra
Planetary positions:
-------------------
Mars, Raghu and Venus - 1st house (Lagna)
Ketu - 7th house
Saturn - 10th house (in cancer)
Guru - 8th house (Taurus)
Moon - 6th House (Meena)
Mercury - 12th house ( Exalted and Lord) in Kanya Rasi
Sun - 12th house

I am not sure about NAVAMSHA.. Nichiro, Is this fine ? I think this is more than enough for general understanding of the same :)

Nichiro

4th August 2006, 09:47 AM

Hello SSelvakumar,

If I am to discuss a chart, I need complete birth data . I work using my research software and it is easy for me to discuss without usingf a hard copy.

Nichiro

selvakumar

4th August 2006, 09:52 AM

Sudhaama

4th August 2006, 09:14 PM

Hello SSelvakumar,

If I am to discuss a chart, I need complete birth data . I work using my research software and it is easy for me to discuss without usingf a hard copy.

Nichiro

Sorry Nichiro.. I don't have the exact DOB and other details. :(

BTW, If you know any such case, then you can post the same here and you can provide us lot of information onthe same ! :D

From the available data, we understand the Lagna as THULA.

The Time of Birth, Date and Place are the important Basic-data.. to cast a Horoscope. At least we must know the Birhstar if not the Time.

However we can work on the reverse and cast the whole Horoscope ... even without ay Birth-data...

...if and when the person has reached about 15 yrs age... with adequate events and family-background as the Basic-data..

... such as Father, Mother, Brothers Sisters... and Events of the person's past life.

Can Mr. Selvakumar... put forth such data in detail... for the above- quoted person?

One of my several Typical Experiences...

One Boy's Horoscope was differing by the two Systems of Dhruk- Ganitha and Vaakya.!

Which One to be considered for Marriage-tally?.. because the Kalhathra-sthana Adhipathi... was different in those Horoscopes!.

Then my Astrologer called for the detailed Family-background and the past events ...

...and finally arrived at one particular Horoscope only.. out of the Two
as Correct...

..since that only TALLIES fully...with the Past events as well as the Propensities of the person... apart from the comparative 6th and 7th Bhavas... which were different as per those Horoscopes.

Same strategy can be applied here.
...

Sudhaama

4th August 2006, 09:14 PM

Hello SSelvakumar,

If I am to discuss a chart, I need complete birth data . I work using my research software and it is easy for me to discuss without usingf a hard copy.

Nichiro

Sorry Nichiro.. I don't have the exact DOB and other details. :(

BTW, If you know any such case, then you can post the same here and you can provide us lot of information onthe same ! :D

From the available data, we understand the Lagna as THULA.

The Time of Birth, Date and Place are the important Basic-data.. to cast a Horoscope. At least we must know the Birthstar if not the Time.

However we can work on the reverse and cast the whole Horoscope ... even without any Birth-data...

...if and when the person has reached about 15 yrs age... with adequate events and family-background as the Basic-data..

... such as Father, Mother, Brothers Sisters... and Events of the person's past life.

Can Mr. Selvakumar... put forth such data in detail... for the above- quoted person?

One of my several Typical Experiences...

One Boy's Horoscope was differing by the two Systems of Dhruk- Ganitha and Vaakya.!

Which One to be considered for Marriage-tally?.. because Budha was Neecha at 7th... the Kalhathra-Sthanam ...

...while He was at the 6th House in another Horoscope!.

Then my Astrologer called for the detailed Family-background and the past events ...

...and finally arrived at one particular Horoscope only.. out of the Two
as Correct...

..since that only TALLIES fully...with the Past events as well as the Propensities of the person... apart from the comparative 6th and 7th Bhavas... which were different as per those Horoscopes.

Same strategy can be applied here.
...

Rohit

5th August 2006, 02:37 AM

The following are the scientifically established data on planetary motions and their orbital periods.

Planet/Orbital Period (Earth Years)
Mercury/0.24
Venus/0.62
Earth/1
Mars/1.88
Jupiter/11.88
Saturn/29.46
Uranus/84.01
Neptune/164.79
Pluto/247.91

Which creates the following three odd situations.

1) It will take millions and millions of years before any six or above number of planets can occupy the same orbital positions with respect to each other. One of them would be, all planets aligned on a single projected line.

2) There are 4.35456 million possible combinations of the planetary positions within any 30 degrees sector of the Earth's orbit.

The above two prove that it is next to impossible for one to predict anything based on planetary positions, in one's own life time.

3) The effects of planetary positions and the consequences of the sum total of all karmic deeds are at odds against each other.

From the above three, it clearly follows that:

a) The theory of karma is false
b) Any predictions of one's life based on astrological data are absolutely humbug
c) The theory of karma and astrological predictions contradict each other, completely nullifying the effects of each other.
d) Lots of contradicting fiddle factors are employed to rescue each of them
:) :thumbsup:

Nichiro

5th August 2006, 09:36 AM

Rohit,

Thanks for the information. I will not contest your understanding.
Now I f you would allow us , we would like to proceed ahead with our Humbug.

Nichiro

selvakumar

5th August 2006, 03:05 PM

Sorry Sudhamma sir, I don't know much about that horoscope.

I do agree with the difference that one can observe between VAAKYA and the other method.
Unfortunately I don't have any information on that !

For further discussions, I am not sure how to proceed. Let us have a plan on the same as per Nichiro. Nichiro can give lot of information based on his experience with relevant examples. I guess :?

If not, We can anlalyse the horoscopes of famous people. We can analyse the same based on information that we know !

Sudhaama

5th August 2006, 04:54 PM

Rohit,

Thanks for the information. I will not contest your understanding.
Now I f you would allow us , we would like to proceed ahead with our Humbug. Nichiro

Well-said Mr. Nichiro.

When there are Atheists too in the contemporary world... who dispute even on the existence of God...

...despite the Great Scientist Dr Aienstene was a Staunch believer of existence of the Suprelative -Might.. so called God...

...there is NO WONDER... there also exists the Non-believers of anything and everything even if it be Scientific....

...and their belief is that the ASTROLOGY IS A HUMBUG...!!!. Well let them infer whatever they feel like.

We are NOT INTERESTED TO DISPUTE NOR ARGUE... and Waste our time anymore... in that Mono-logical direction...

...with such people... the Non-believers of this Great God- given Occult- Science ...

... nor on that Rudimentary-factor...which has already been dealt at length, in the initial stage of this thread itself.

Dear Nichiro and other friends, please don't get discouraged on such diversions and DRY DISPUTES.

Please proceed ahead...from where we have left the Thread.

Sudhaama

5th August 2006, 05:11 PM

Lord RAMA'S HOROSCOPE..!!!...???

Lord Rama's Horoscope is herebelow. ..which corroborates with His Life events as per Ramayana...

...including His Married Life....PITIABLE...because of the placement of Guru in Lagna...

...Kalhathra-karaka Sani with Kethu,

...who also is aspected by Guru's 5th view...

And the Most important Phenomena!...

If a Ucha-Graha aspects another Ucha-Graha... both the Gruha-Bhavas are DEFEATED towards the Opposite and Negative effect...

...Kalhathra and Lagna... has thus been WEAKENED.... making His Married Life...MISERABLE..

....even though IMPECCABLE HUSBAND & WIFE of EMULATIVE VALUES!

... and further?

http://www.indianodysseys.com/gis/gis_bastro6.asp
...

selvakumar

5th August 2006, 05:35 PM

Lord RAMA'S HOROSCOPE..!!!...???

http://www.indianodysseys.com/gis/gis_bastro6.asp
...

Here are the general things that can be observed from the horo:

1) MARS is exalted and is exactly in the 7th House. Also, in the Navamsha too.. Which forms "VARGOTTAM" (Not sure abt spelling) If a planet is depleted in the RASI, but forms a VARGOTTAM, then it attains the power of EXALTATION.. That is the power of VARGOTTAM.

VARGOTTAM

If a planet occupies the same position in both RASI and NAVAMSHA, then it forms VARGOTTAM.. Here it attains the power of EXALTATION state.

- Here MARS is both exalted and forms VARGOTTAM
- GURU is also in exalted state and forms VARGOTTAM
- MOON too.. One more thing is MOON is in its own house. (cancer) and forms VARGOTTAM
- ASC too... People with this combination tend to be more honest, idle and they are prone for their domination and leading a disciplined life by sticking to their own principles. NO wonder he is known for the title "AEGA PATHNI VIRATHAN"

Sudhamma sir,
- One more thing here is : The 7th house is aspected by both KETU AND SANI.. As we discussed, SANI destroys the houses that he aspect. Plus SATURN aspects MARS here. KETU too (3rd).
-GURU (6th house lord which is prone for enemies, sufferings aspects the 7th house)
-KALATHRA KARKA VENUS is in ARIES.. which is not good.. This one brings problems in marriage life, sufferings and others. Importantly losing self-esteem and respect coz of females.

P.S: Again, KALATHRA KARKA VENUS is in its own house in NAVAMSHA and with SATURN (7th house lord). It should be noted here that SATURN is in exalted state in NAVAMSHA

One more confusion:

Sometime back, I saw RAMA's horo.. there I saw SATURN in 6th house in RAASI :confused2:

Sudhaama

5th August 2006, 09:14 PM

...
SANI in 5th or 6th... in RAMA's Horoscope?

// Sudhamma sir, //

Dear Mr. Selvakumar... Neither I am AMMA ...Nor "Sudhamma"... Nor SUDHA...

...But only "SUDHAAMA" here... another name of KUCHELA.

// The 7th house is aspected by both KETU AND SANI.. As we discussed, SANI destroys the houses that he aspect. Plus SATURN aspects MARS here. KETU too (3rd).//

Yes...You are Correct...by taking Sani's placement as at the 5th House... Poorva PUNHYA Sthanam plus PUHTHRA Sthanam.

// One more confusion: Sometime back, I saw RAMA's horo.. there I saw SATURN in 6th house in RAASI //

If it were at the 6th... let us imagine how and far different it would have been.! Can it tally with the Realities?

Sixth is the SATHRU-Sthanam, also concerned with ROGA,(Diseases), RUNA(Debts)

If Sani were there...Rama's Life would have been totally different. How?

3rd, 6th, 8th and 12th are Bad Houses. Even good planets placed there. become weak or even negative depending on other related factors. And the Bad-planets if placed become worse.

The Owner-planets of these houses if placed in such houses other than their own...

...they gain the Opposite-power and thus become Good... a VAKRA-YPGA (Kettavan kettidil kittidum Raja-yogam)

So to say.... (-) x (-) = (+). Thus Sani there at "Dhanus" would have changed the whole Ramayana.

Besides 1st, 5th and 9th are THRI-KONA Sthanas... So to say LAKSHMI-STHANAS. Only because the Kalhathra-karaka Sani is placed at the 5th (Thrikona-Sthana) Rama could have an UNPARALLELLY IMMACULATE and Loyal Wife... exemplary to the Eternal Society. If he were at the 6th? ... He would have got a Nagging wife, with constant misunderstanding and Non-co-operation

Because Sani owns the 7th the Kalhathra Sthanam alongside the 8th the House... concerned with Difficulties, Accidents, Obstacles, SHAME and Separation... Lord Rama suffered much because of His wife...

...leading to separation for a part of the period not only when he was in forest but also after He got enthroned

...finally got separation... by the wife leaving Him of Her own accord.

The 8th bhava "Shame" at the 5th... made Rama to face UNDUE-SHAMEFUL outcome...

(1) Kaikeyi His Foster-mother herself... sent Him to forest... an Undue- Shame.

(2) On the same day fixed for Coronation... turned into a matter of Shame... by making Him not only lose the Throne, but also lose His mundane pleasures too... the diametrically opposite outcome... of SHAMEFUL FATE.

(3) By deceipt he lost His wife to a Robberer... causing Him an undue SHAME.

(4) Samudra-Raja ignored His prayer... an Insult and matter of Undue SHAME.

Besides one of the Karakathvam for Sani being... that He is the DESTINY-MAKER. for any Person.

So it is the Destiny (Pre-planned Life-Schedule) which got linked with His 5th, Punhya-Sthanam of Mars, the Warrior-planet...

...as also by Sani's aspecting Mars at Sani's own house which led Him to Wars and Battles all through His life...

...which ULTIMATELY BROUGHT HIM GLORY... due to interlink with Yoga- sthanam 5th.

If Sani were at the 6th all these would have been negated due to the Contrary bhavas of 7th and 8th...

....interlinked with the Negative House 6th... instead of the Positive 5th.

Further, Sani being the maker of Male-children... placed at Puthra-sthanam, 5th...

...Rama got Lava-Kusa as the Glorious Twin-Sons.

And because of Sani with one of the Bhavas of 8th as... SEPARATION .. linked with Puthra-Sthanam too!...

... Rama lived in separation from His Childen also.

Thus in this case, it is asserted.. "SANI AT THE 5TH HOUSE".. only can be Correct.
...

Tia

5th August 2006, 10:44 PM

ok btw my DOB: 12/08/1993

my first number is : 3
my second number is : 6

do 3's ( me at the mo) get along with number 5's?????

5 is the first number in tht case

Sudhaama

5th August 2006, 11:25 PM

ok btw my DOB: 12/08/1993

my first number is : 3
my second number is : 6

do 3's ( me at the mo) get along with number 5's?????

5 is the first number in tht case

Dear Friend,

Your Question totally is related with NUMEROLGY... and Astrology has no concern.

For NUMEROLOGY, there exists a Separate Thread...exclusively.

Quoted herebelow:---

http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=3656&highlight=&sid=ef274191457b5f6cf49b9cccc8c810f5

Will you please raise this question there?... and Delete this posting here?
...

Rohit

6th August 2006, 02:04 PM

...despite the Great Scientist Dr Aienstene was a Staunch believer of existence of the Suprelative -Might.. so called God...Dr. Aienstene (?) maybe a staunch believer, but he neither believed in astrology nor he believed in the theory of karma. What Dr. Aienstene believed was, Jesus Christ was/is a Son of Christian God - Jehovah, the Almighty, who created everything that exists. Unfortunately, the above quoted ill thought, mono-illogical and heedless reference to Dr. Aienstene (?) itself now turns against the believers who believe in astrology and the theory of karma. :) :thumbsup:

Rohit

6th August 2006, 02:11 PM

Now the most enigmatic question of all time for the believers of astrology and karma should be:
What were the horoscopes, karma or the combination of both, of India and hundreds of millions of Indians who suffered waves after waves of foreign invasions, slavery and dismal destitution for 1000s of years?

Nichiro

6th August 2006, 04:48 PM

Nichiro

6th August 2006, 05:00 PM

Friends,

Some time back I had stated that we need to take a fresh look at Karakatwa of planets.I did some startling work on Rahu and my quest for Karaktwa is continuing.
I had mentioned that I will be working on Rahu, Guru and Shani.
So keeping up the tempo of my investigation in Karakatwa of Guru, I am writing the first instalment of work on Guru.

I have taken the following from my article on Rahu which speaks about need to have a rethink on Karakatwa of Rahu, Guru and Shani.

"It is but human nature to paint any shade in to darker and darker shade . A small time thief becomes a demonic murderer, cheat etc. once the story is told and retold over a period of time. A mole hill is converted into a mountain.

Everything Fair in colour is seen as Fair, beautiful, good and benign in nature and everything black is associated with worst things you can imagine. Thus black people are termed as cheats, crooks, dumb, fools, low in caste,of low character , menials, diseased etc.
This obsession with dark and black has been well adopted by astrologers of yore.
Thus Saturn, Rahu and Ketu have become mlechheas, sudras, thieves, labourers,crooks, and whatever bad you can think of.

So when it came to allotting Karakatwa , venus, Jupiter, Mercury and Sun took the best of the portfolios. Rules of astrology were formed to fit their brightness . Sometimes square pegs were put in round holes.

Jupiter, the planet shares the same name Guru , meaning Large as Guru meaning Teacher. At some point of time, Guru the planet, Guru , the teacher and Brihaspati, the Teacher of immortal Devas became one .
Brihaspati, the Deva Guru , supposed to be of most benign nature, pious,intelligent, Brahmin, was given many portfolios. Out of that, portfolios of 2nd houseand 5th house were also given to him. But Guru, even though was made karaka for house of wealth, whenever he was in 2nd bhava, the man turned into a pauper lost wealth or suffered financially.He was given karakatva of 5th house , Santana Bhava.But when he sits in Santana Bhava, he is found to bring the lineage to the end.The person becomes childless.
How can a minister of finance occupying his own office in the place ruled by him destroy the finances of the country ?How can the Putra Karaka deny a son to the person if in 5th bhava?

They also found that BAD Sani , increased wealth when in 2nd bhava.

It is like a Menial low caste servant occupying the seat of finance in the ministry increase the wealth of the country. !!!

How paradoxical !!!!

So the old Astrologers belonging to Brihaspati's kula (Brahmins) made a rule to explain.

BHAVA NASH KARO JEEVA,
BHAVA VRIDDHHI KARAU SHANI:

Meaning, Jupiter destroys the bhava he occupies and saturn increases the bhava he occupies.

I remember the story of olden times when a child wants Moon, the mother brings a plate of water and asks the child to take the reflection of Moon."

And since the child believes in Mother, he accepts that moon and stops crying. People accepted all the so called Exceptions to the rule without questioning. In respect to Brihaspati, I found that he is a misfit in most of the places he sits.

According to my thinking, Guru acts as a Parasite , and draws strength from the house he occupies and distributes its goodness in form of aspectual fruits.
In my original research on Planets and Element's Periodic table,Jupiter becomes the lord of 6th Group.

JUPITER AS LORD OF 6th GROUP

Jupiter means JEEVA, meaning LIFE. He is the savior of Life on earth. Oxygen means Life. No Oxygen means no life. You find oxygen in 6th group. In astrology, Guru's aspect removes all problems and prevents Balarishta (Infant Mortality).

Jupiter is Yellow in colour , he adores yellow clothes. His stone is Yellow sapphire. He resides in a ASTHAKONA HOUSE.

You will find Yellow Sulphur listed in this group. Outermost shell has 8 electrons. So he resides in ASHTKONA house. Chromium salts are yellow.

Oxygen in moderation gives life.But same oxygen kills at higher doses.Water is disinfected using over dose of oxygen .!!
Excess amount of oxygen in form of FREE RADICALS has been found to be extremely harmful to human/all living things. Free Radicals have been found to lower immunity and accelerate ageing process.
And this is the handywork of Planet known as JEEVA.

I am posting on effects of Guru in 2nd,5th 9th and 10th houses today to illustrate that he destroys the houses which he occupies.

EFFECT OF GURU IN 5TH HOUSE.

Male
DOB: 28.9.1954
TOB: 18.30 Hrs
POB: Madras

Asc: Pisces
Ketu: Gemini
Jupiter: Cancer
Moon,Sun: Virgo
Sat/Merc/Ven: Libra
Rahu/Mars: Saggitarius

Mark Guru in cancer a Female sign in 5th where Guru is in exaltation.
He has malefics in 10th house which denotes no progeny to light funeral pyre.

This person is childless even after two marriages.

CASE # II

Male

DOB: 6TH July 1935
Tob : 5.34 AM
POB: Teng-t'a
101 E 12
36 N 32

Gemini: Asc
Gemini: Sun/Merc/Ketu
Leo: Moon/venus
Virgo : Mars
Libra : Jupiter
Saggi: Rahu
Aquarius: Saturn

This person has Guru in 5th house.He is unmarried and has no children due to religious abstinence.
This horoscope belongs to His Holiness Dalai Lama.

CASE # III

GURU IN 2ND HOUSE DHANA BHAVA

MALE
Born ...10th Nov 1955

Janma Lagna Kataka
Vrishabha...........ketu
Simha ..............Guru
Kanya...............Moon, Mars
Tula................Saturn, Mercury, Sun
Vrischik............Rahu , Shukra

VIMSHOTTARI DASAS EXPERIENCED SO FAR,
Moon, Mars, Rahu, Guru (Presently).

This person has Guru in 2nd house in Leo.

RESULT:

The jataka , except for a very brief period in Guru dasa, has failed in everything he has done. Extremely bad with money. Owes people huge sums, no property , no permenet jobs, avoided by world and also his own family.poverty does not leave him and presently looked after by father inlaw.

GURU IN 8TH , AYUSHYA BHAVA.

Guru is termed as Jeeva, Ayushya karaka, remover of illness, when comes and occupies 8th bhava, destroys the Ayushya or Life of a person.
I will give two examples of such people who were killed by Guru.

CASE #1

Male:
DOB: 27.3.1972
TOB: 9.07 AM
POB: Udaipur Rajasthan

Taurus: Asc
Taurus: Mars/Sat
Cancer: Ketu
Leo: Moon
Saggi: Jupiter
Capri: Rahu
Pisces: Sun/Merc

Mark presence of Guru in the 8th bhava. The person died in a tragic road accident in year 2001.

CASE # 2

Male
DOB: 9.11.1915
TOB: 12.15 am
POB: Porbandar India

Cancer : Asc
Cancer: Mars/ketu
Libra: Merc/Sun
Scorpio: Moon/Venus
Capri: Rahu
Aquarius: Jupiter
Gemini: Saturn

Mark Jupiter in 8th bhava.

The person in question died of TB at the age of 24 years.

To Be Continued.

BRUM BRUHASPATAYE NAMAH:

Nichiro

selvakumar

6th August 2006, 05:01 PM

Sudhaama

6th August 2006, 05:19 PM

Rohit,

I request you to open another thread about "NON-BELIEVERS IN ASTROLOGY" and post your views there.
This thread is for and about believers in astrology. At least I would prefer not to be distracted when I am discussing serious issues in Astrology.

Hope you would understand. Nichiro

Thanks Mr. Nichiro... I wanted to reply the same to Mr. Rohit. And you have said it.

We have already discussed and replied... under this same Thread, at the initial stages... to such of the Counter-Arguments from Non-believers.

So we need not RE-OPEN once again the same point here...on THAT GREAT OCCULT- SCIENCE ...a part of Rich Indian-Heritage...

...recognised by even the Foreigners like Mr. Cheiro.

Most of us here are Not Astrologers, but only the Clients. We all here are PERSONALLY WELL-CONVINCED on the Great Values of it...

... BASED ON OUR OWN EXPERIENCES...and thus a Practical LIFE- LESSON we learnt too !!!

However if a further ARGUMENT is called for by Mr. Rohit... Well, he can open another Thread on the same main heading: Astrology... but a Sub-section as...

... Astrology Genuine or False?

But... PARALLELLY... let us continue the Topic here...

And we are in course of discussion now... in a Radically different angle... AMONGST THE STAUNCH BELIEVERS

NO MORE INTERFERENCE PLEASE.... diverting towards the Rudiments.

Rohit

6th August 2006, 08:56 PM

This thread is for and about believers in astrology.Thank you Nichiro for making the much-needed clarification

Dear Nichiro, Selvakumar and Sudhaama

Please don't get so disheartened. I am not here to distract anyone from his or her beliefs. I only wanted to point to the fact, that astrology is merely a belief system, which can only be believed but it can never be claimed as science when examined under the principles of science. That is all I wanted to establish.

Thank you all, please continue with your discussion, keeping in mind that the enigmatic question I have raised, still requires an answer under the declared belief system of yours. This is very important, if not for others, but at least to convince yourselves about your own infidelity towards your own belief system

Till then, good luck and enjoy :) :thumbsup:

Nichiro

6th August 2006, 09:19 PM

Rohit

6th August 2006, 09:44 PM

Rohit,
If you want to disprove /prove a system, you MUST learn the system and only then, try and disprove it. No fun in taking digs at any system without knowing it.
Thanks for your future non interference.Nichiro
Dear Nichiro,

I have described the situation on the basis of scientific data and scientific methodology; and I know both well enough to disprove what I have disproved about your belief system and I have also raised the most enigmatic question for not only you, but for all of us that need answering under your belief system. Now if you care to answer any of that within the framework of science and scientific principles, I would definitely welcome that.
:) :thumbsup:

Rohit

6th August 2006, 09:50 PM

Rohit

6th August 2006, 09:52 PM

Rohit,
If you want to disprove /prove a system, you MUST learn the system and only then, try and disprove it. No fun in taking digs at any system without knowing it.
Thanks for your future non interference.Nichiro
Dear Nichiro,

I have described the situation on the basis of scientific data and scientific methodology; and I know both well enough to disprove what I have disproved about your belief system and I have also raised the most enigmatic question, not only for you, but for all of us, that need answering under your belief system. Now if you care to answer any of that within the framework of science, using scientific methodology, I would definitely welcome that. Please goahead
:) :thumbsup:

Nichiro

6th August 2006, 09:58 PM

Rohit,

Scientific data you posted is astronomical and not astrological. First learn astrology to disprove it.
No more discussions till you learn astrology.

Nichiro

Rohit

6th August 2006, 10:26 PM

Rohit,
Scientific data you posted is astronomical and not astrological.Definitions:
Astronomy: Science dealing with the origin, evolution, composition, distance, and motion of all bodies and scattered matter in the universe.

Astrology: The study of the positions and aspects of celestial bodies in the belief that they influence on human destinies. (The question I raised is relevant in the context of this belief)

From the above definitions of the two, only astronomy is recognised as science when astrology as a mere belief system.

Which means only one thing, all astrological claims are absolutely non-scientific

:) :thumbsup:

Sudhaama

6th August 2006, 11:19 PM

...
Dear Mr Rohit.. ENOUGH! Your UNDUE DIVERSION

Rohit,
Scientific data you posted is astronomical and not astrological.Definitions:
Astronomy: Science dealing with the origin, evolution, composition, distance, and motion of all bodies and scattered matter in the universe.

Astrology: The study of the positions and aspects of celestial bodies in the belief that they influence on human destinies. (The question I raised is relevant in the context of this belief, which is proven to be non-scientific)

From the above definitions of the two, only astronomy is recognised as science when astrology as a mere belief system.

Which means only one thing, all astrological claims are absolutely non-scientific

:) :thumbsup:

Dear Mr. Nichiro,

Only because you are replying to his points on a different direction.. he is able to continue his FORCEFUL THRUST of his Self-centred WRONG-NOTIONS and Biased Inferences.. on us...

...without his studying the worthy Books on Astrology...

...which convincingly answer all his logical Questions on this Divine-Science.

Dear Mr Rohit,

In spite of your assurance to allow us to continue our discussions...

...from where we had to leave abruptly, You are persistently DRAGGING US TOWARDS a different direction ... unsought for.

Especially towards the Basics and Elementary studies of its Alphabets...which is totally a different approach, for which we all have suggested to open another Thread... with an apt heading and run it parallelly, if and as you want.

Have you determined to break our discussions... and KILL OUR ENTHUSIASM?

I request you...PLEASE DISCONTINUE Your FURTHER DISCUSSIONS on your diverted thoughts... in this Thread...

...which you can take up in a new thread as you would like.

Let us continue here... as we are in the course of serious discussion.
...

Rohit

7th August 2006, 01:22 AM

...from where we had to leave abruptly, You are persistently DRAGGING US TOWARDS a different direction ... unsought for.

Especially towards the Basics and Elementary studies of its Alphabets...which is totally a different approach, for which we all have suggested to open another Thread... with an apt heading and run it parallelly, if and as you want....Dear Sudhaama, if this is what it is all about; then please, I repeat..... please ……don't call it science (the very base of which is refutability) and unnecessarily befoul the very meaning of natural science, as acknowledged universally, with some baseless, self-centred and false notions of everything.

Nichiro

7th August 2006, 01:44 AM

Dear sudhaama sir,

Let us continue our discussion inspite of discussions which may lead us away. I , WOULD HENCEFORTH BE ,IGNORING INTURRUPTIONS..

Iam not going to discuss Lord Rama's chart as it is much chewed bone .

I have posted charts and birth details of a lot of people which corroborate the statement I made about BHAVA NASHA KARO JEEVA....Etc.

I would like to hear your views about the same.

Nichiro

Rohit

8th August 2006, 01:08 AM

Sudhaama

8th August 2006, 01:09 AM

..
GURU (Jupiter).. Life-maker.. 2nd Most IMPORTANT

Dear Mr. Nichiro,

Since you have specifically asked me, I have to reply.

KARAKATHWA.

Since you have shown more interest on Karakathwa of planets, I take up that factor primarily.

Every planet has a "Karakathwa"(Bound-Commitment) we all know. For example... Soorya is the ATHMA-KARAKA... while Chandra is the Manas-Karaka.

Then what is the Karakathwam for Guru, the Jupiter.?

Amongst all the Planets, Sun(Soorya) is the Ruler-planet over all others... while Jupiter (Guru) is the Guru (Teacher / Counsellor / Guide).

Thus Guru is the Second-important one... next to Soorya... amongst all the planets.

Not only for the other Planets... but also for any Horoscope. Why? and How?

While Soorya is called ...ATHMA-KARAKA(Soul-protector)...or... JAYA-KARAKA (Success-Giver)...

Guru is called DHARMA-KARAKA(Protector of Righteousness) or BHAGYA-KARAKA (Protector of Luck)

That is why, the General-formulae... of Karaka Bhava-Nasthi... does not apply in case of Guru at the 9th House, BHAGYA-STHANAM... In fact it is contrary here... being his best position showering maximum luck... / neutralising / compensating / reducing / nullifying all the deficiencies and defects if any so caused by other planets.

Athma is the hidden Soul-power for everybody... which fetches the God's grace for a Meaningful life...leading to SUCCESS.

...while Bhagya is...Luck called ADHRISHTA... meaning the UNSEEN POWER'S FAVOUR... So to say God's Benign grace for LIFE-PLEASURE... including all sorts of Wealth.... Mundane and Post-life.

In brief... Sun fetches Success... while Guru fetches Luck... as per their locations in a Horoscope.

So any amount of SUBHA-YOGAS by all other Planets will become futile... if Soorya and Guru are not well-placed in any Horoscope.

Contrarily any amount of AVA-YOGAS (Ill-Luck) from all other Planets can be UNDONE...if Guru and Soorya are well-placed... applicable to any Horoscope

Since as per Reality in Life... Success and Luck(God's favour) are the most important and BASIC-NEEDS

... which are bestowed by Soorya (SUN) and Guru (Jupiter)... respectively... for a WORTHY LIFE.
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Nichiro

8th August 2006, 10:14 AM

Sudhaama

8th August 2006, 04:07 PM

Dear Sudhaama Sir,

My posting which you feel has offended you has appeared in another vedic astrology group . I just posted the same here.
I see that it has been removed.
Actually it was in response to a debate in that group.

If it is offensive to you then sorry.
I cannot undo what has already appeared before.

I wanted your opinion on charts posted by me.
What you have posted about Guru is totally unacceptable by me.

Guru is a parasite for any house.

Unless my posting is re instated, I will not participate further.

Tatvam-Asi

Dear Mr. Nichiro,

No Posting of your have been removed. So the Question of Re- instatement does not arise.

In the contemporary Society, there are some communal-fanatics, purposively dragging the caste-factor in any and every subject...just to show their hatred towards a section of the Society. So they concoct the meanings of even the Vedas and twist to their own convenience just to carry on a vicious-propoganda and thrust their personal venomous thoughts on others. Should we support their narrow-minded outlook? we, including you and I are broad-minded and Large-hearted enough to look and percivethe true colours and Rich values of our Heritage... one of which is the IMMACULATE ASTROLOGY. Is it Not?

Simply because somebody else has stated his own self-centred inferences and Wrong Notions, we need not copy nor follow them. We must accept what we are convinced as genuine. Is it Not.?

So I reiterate my request. Please Delete the Caste-related wordings in your earlier osting.

Guru in 9th and 7th are quite far different and in fact beneficial in contrast to its Negative-effect on other houses.. as I have learnt from Books, Experts as well as by practical observation too. If you differ with me on that point...well, it interests me to know that other side Please detail your views. Then I will put forth mine in detail.

This factor, I had to raise up now... in connection with your earlier statements.. generalising for all houses... where I differ. On completion of our discussions on this factor, I want to take up the cases you have quoted... and put forth my reply later.

So let us complete your first point now....Guru in 9th and 7th too is a PARASITE?...

I say No....But I am anxious to hear your repudiative points. Please put forth.
.

Sudhaama

8th August 2006, 04:08 PM

Dear Sudhaama Sir,

My posting which you feel has offended you has appeared in another vedic astrology group . I just posted the same here.
I see that it has been removed.
Actually it was in response to a debate in that group.

If it is offensive to you then sorry.
I cannot undo what has already appeared before.

I wanted your opinion on charts posted by me.
What you have posted about Guru is totally unacceptable by me.

Guru is a parasite for any house.

Unless my posting is re instated, I will not participate further.

Tatvam-Asi

Dear Mr. Nichiro,

No Posting of yours have been removed so far, as alleged.. So the Question of Re- instatement does not arise.

In the contemporary Society, you and I know... there are some communal-fanatics, purposively dragging the caste-factor in any and every subject...just to show their hatred towards a section of the Society. So they concoct the meanings of even the Vedas and twist to their own convenience just to carry on a vicious-propoganda and thrust their personal venomous thoughts on others. Should we support their narrow-minded outlook?

We, including you and I are broad-minded and Large-hearted enough to look and perceive the True colours and Rich values of our Heritage... one of which is the IMMACULATE ASTROLOGY. Is it Not?

Simply because somebody else has stated his own self-centred inferences and Wrong Notions, we need not copy nor follow them. We must accept what we are convinced as genuine. Is it Not.?

So I reiterate my request. Please Delete the Caste-related wordings in your earlier posting.

Guru in 9th and 7th are quite far different and in fact beneficial in contrast to its Negative-effect by location in other houses.. as I have learnt from Books, Experts as well as by practical observation too.

If you differ with me on that point...well, it interests me to know that other side Please detail your views. Then I will put forth mine in detail.

This factor, I had to raise up now, initially... in connection with your earlier statements.. generalising for all houses... where I differ. On completion of our discussions on this factor, I want to take up the cases you have quoted... and put forth my reply later.

Unless we both are clear on this main factor of "Overall-Parasite in any and every house" ... we will not be able to proceed further, especially on the cases you have asked for my comment.

So let us complete your first point now....Guru in 9th and 7th too is a PARASITE?.

I say No....But I am anxious to hear your repudiatory points. Please put forth.
.

selvakumar

8th August 2006, 06:16 PM

Sudhaama

8th August 2006, 10:15 PM

Dear Nichiro, Selvakumar and Sudhaama,

Incidentally I read some of your posts and I simply couldn't resist expressing my views, which I hoped you would be well prepared to handle, but obviously it clashed with your convictions due to mutual incompatibility of our views. I do apologise if my posts have, in anyway, distracted you from your convictions. Please resume your discussion. :)

Very Many Thanks Mr Rohit.

I know you are a Gentleman of high Intellect. Because I have read with much interest... your several postings under various Threads here.

That is why I am giving you the due regards..

Your Question ... whether Astrology is qualified to be named as a Segment of Science or Not... is Quite a Valid and Wise one.

And our intention was not to discourage you. But only to let you know that we have already progressed far ahead of such an Elementary stage and Fundamental factor, which we have already dealt with long back at the initial stage under this Thread itself..

...and it will not be proper to reopen and revert back to that Alphabetical stage ...

... INTERRUPTING in between the Advanced-stage Topic discussions.. by all others

Nothing beyond. Sorry to disappoint you.
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Rohit

9th August 2006, 01:53 AM

Sorry to disappoint you.Dear Sudhaama, you have not only disappointed me by not being able to respond to my posts well, but you have also shown how you have passed-over all the 'broad-minded' and 'large-hearted' outlooks you have been trying to project all these times. While passing the following 'broad-minded' and 'large-hearted' remarks, strangely, you altogether forgot to mention the names of people you were actually referring to in your following unqualified and opinionated remarks.

We, including you and I are broad-minded and Large-hearted enough to look and perceive the True colours and Rich values of our Heritage... one of which is the IMMACULATE ASTROLOGY. Is it Not?

Simply because somebody else has stated his own self-centred inferences and Wrong Notions, we need not copy nor follow them. We must accept what we are convinced as genuine. Is it Not.?If you really feel too mortified to identify those whom you badly wanted to refer to in your above remarks, irrespective of whoever they are, and if you really did not mean to be so 'narrow-minded' and 'shrunk-hearted', I would strongly suggest you to withdraw your unqualified and opinionated remarks. Also do the needful to demonstrate some civility that is now already due; and thereafter, if you can, please refrain from making such egocentric and irrational remarks on anyone, irrespective of whoever they are, simply because you feel empty of the specific answers. Thank you! :)

Sudhaama

9th August 2006, 03:32 AM

..... While passing the following 'broad-minded' and 'large-hearted' remarks, strangely, you altogether forgot to mention the names of people you were actually referring to in your following unqualified and opinionated remarks.//

[quote=Sudhaama]We, including you and I are broad-minded and Large-hearted enough to look and perceive the True colours and Rich values of our Heritage... one of which is the IMMACULATE ASTROLOGY. Is it Not?

Simply because somebody else has stated his own self-centred inferences and Wrong Notions, we need not copy nor follow them. We must accept what we are convinced as genuine. Is it Not.?

If you really feel too mortified to identify those whom you badly wanted to refer to in your above remarks, irrespective of whoever they are, and if you really did not mean to be so 'narrow-minded' and 'shrunk-hearted', I would strongly suggest you to withdraw your unqualified and opinionated remarks. Also do the needful to demonstrate some civility that is now already due; and thereafter, if you can, please refrain from making such egocentric and irrational remarks on anyone, irrespective of whoever they are, simply because you feel empty of the specific answers. Thank you! :)

Dear Mr Rohit,

All these have NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU...but in response to Mr Nichiro's last posting mentioning about the planet Guru linking with a Narrow-minded Communal factor... which I do not relish... as much as any healthy hearted person.

With a Friendly-spirit of reciprocation after noting your high-spirited wind-up, I responded to your Gentlemanly gesture of apology...

...I too expressed Sorry... To END UP the matter. I could have kept silent

But... Why I expressed my RECIPROCAL-SPIRIT of Gentlemanly thoughts? Please think over.

Have I not appreciated you for your HIGH CALIBRE GESTURE and remarkable INTELLECT?.

Whereas in spite of my AFFECTIONATE WORDS... I am surprised to note Your SHOCKING BLOWS on me.l

Dear Friend, I am not such a Cheap person to make Sarcastic remarks aiming at someone indirectly.. I hate such a sickly approach.

Rather I am very careful in NOT HURTING ANYBODY.. by any means.

So please please and please DON'T ASSUME AND FEEL HURT. I will not at all be happy to see others hurt because of me...

I never Intend Nor mean such Sickly thoughts.. Never.

..Especially with you...A NICE GENTLEMAN..!!!
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Nichiro

9th August 2006, 04:53 PM

selvakumar

9th August 2006, 05:39 PM

:( come on guys ! This thread is going towards some other direction :cry:
:confused2:

r_kk

10th August 2006, 09:24 PM

Nichiro

10th August 2006, 10:03 PM

Sudhaama

10th August 2006, 11:07 PM

Dear Rohit, r-kk etc,

I bow to you people in submission and request you to leave us alone to discuss our irrational and un scientific theories in this thread.
If you want , please open another rationality thread and do your discussions there.

I hope you would heed to my request.

Nichiro

Yes... Well-said...

Dear Nichiro,

Sorry.. Due to the Technical-difficulties in our Hub-access... I am unable to post in the speed...and promptnness, I want to reply.

I hope to reply to you tomorrow... if the access improves.

Our Critics have to keep in mind that this is NOT A GENERAL THREAD ON ASTROLOGY ... enabling the Opponents and Critics to raise any General or Fundamental Question on Astrology.

This Thread pertains to only one aspect on Astrology... as specified in the Heading.

While WE HIGHLY BELIEVE ASTROLOGY as a Life- Guidance.. and we are anxious to discuss amongst the like-minded dignitaries..

...I request such of those Friends... Non-believers of this Great Vedic- Science ...

. to be kind enough NOT TO INTERRUPT in the course of our serious discusions.... anymore.

If they are really interested to get the due Answers for their Typical Questions on Astrology... Well, they can very well open any number of New Threads with the Titles of their own choice and raise Questions there ...

... INSTEAD OF UNNECESSARILY INTERFERING IN OUR WAY... whatever be their evaluation on this Unparallel Life-Science....

... May be Astrology a HUMBUG or an UNWORTHY MADNESS as per their perception.

Whatever name others may ascribe.. we are quite Happy with Astrology!

...based on our Open-minded Understanding and PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE.

Let this be OUR LAST REPLY to our Interruptor-Friends.
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Rohit

11th August 2006, 12:40 AM

Dear Rohit,
Thanks for the refreshing and gently placed counter arguments. As usual we can't get any answer to the logical questions...

I am seeing you after long time. After you and geno nearly left this arena, I had lost the interest to visit this forum. Please come to this forum very often and write logical and rational thoughts.

This highly superstitious thread need lot of alternative posts with more scientific explanation.Dear r_kk
Thank you for your appreciation.

Now I am not after any answer here, not because one can't get any, but simply because whatever answers can be given, are destined to rest upon apprehensive defence of the ongoing convictions.

On the other hand, there is nothing wrong in holding such convictions; and Nichiro has sent that message very clearly by launching a gentle request to leave them alone with their convictions; and they definitely deserve to be left alone with their convictions. :)

Rohit

11th August 2006, 12:49 AM

Dear Rohit.................
Dear Nichiro, please carryon without any apprehension. :D :thumbsup:

Badri

11th August 2006, 05:53 AM

Moderator's Request

This thread seems to be getting hijacked every once in a while. With no prejudice of any sorts one way or the other, I would request r_kk, Rohit and the likes to kindly let this thread proceed with its participants who are busy discussing various aspects of their knowledge.

You are free to start your threads on how irrational you feel the whole thing is.

Sudhaama

11th August 2006, 07:59 AM

Dear Sri Sudhaama ,

I had written (four years back) the article on Guru during my research on Rahu) the comments about which you have raised objections.
What have I written??

"So the old Astrologers belonging to Brihaspati's kula (Brahmins) made a rule to explain"

can you tell me what is so bad about the above line??
Honestly I fail to understand. I too , am a Brahmin and I do not see anything objectionable in the above line.

Nichiro

My Dear Mr. Nichiro,

I have replied by PM to you .. today.

PLEASE DELETE the OBJECTIONABLE parts of the posting... as I have justified there.

From now onwards we will concentrate on the Topic.

I will reply to Mr. Selvakumar's Views on Guru at the 9th House.

...I thank him for his SAME-SIDE GOAL.!
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selvakumar

11th August 2006, 08:30 AM

I will reply to Mr. Selvakumar's Views on Guru at the 9th House.

...I thank him for his SAME-SIDE GOAL.!
.

Sudhaama, Could you please explain more on this ? Couldn't understand :?
Which post of me made you feel so?

Sudhaama

12th August 2006, 02:30 AM

Guru in 9th and 7th are quite far different and in fact beneficial in contrast to its Negative-effect by location in other houses.. as I have learnt from Books, Experts as well as by practical observation too.

Sudhamma,
I have seen GURU in the 7th house in Rajinikanth's horoscope. Lagna is Leo.
Guru - 5th house and 8th house lord.
I think we know very well about how RK's marriage life was :D
Yes.. Practically I havenot seen much negative effect for people who have GURU in the 7th house and 9th house.

But if we have to look as per the rules, I think NIchiro too has a point. I think it depends on lot of factors as you mentioned.

Sorry Selvakumar... On my comment as your "Same-side Goal"... it was my Typographical error to have mentioned as Guru in the 9th House .. It should be read as 7th..

My categorical stand is... that the General Formulae on Guru that he is a Parasite for any House he is located...

...does not apply to the Two Houses.. 7th and 9th... where by his location, the strtength of such a house is enhanced...

..as well as that the Guru in 7th and 9th becomes Benefic.

The case of Mr Rajanikanth, the famous Tamil-cine-Actor... which you have quoted as of 7th Guru... is a GOOD EXAMPLE for my stand..

He has an exceptionally Good wife... on which he is quite happy and proud says Rajni.

And we are seeing how she has added glory to her husband by establishing and running under her management an Educational Institution of emulative Moral-values.

All these are because of 7th house Guru... for the Husband Rajni..

Seventh house... KALHATHRA-STHAANAM... denotes only about the Wife and her qualities, HER APPROACH towards her husband etc...

.. and NOT ON HOW THE HUSBAND WILL TREAT HER...

..Nor on how the Married-life will be....nor any other relevant factor.

For all such aspects on the Married-Life of the Horoscope-holder...

....IN ADDITION TO 7th HOUSE...

... we have to study... the 2nd( Kudumba-Sthaanam)... 12th (Sayana- Bhoga- Sthaanam)... 4th (Sukha- Sthaanam)... 8th (Saanthi- Sthaanam)...9th (Dharma / Bhaagya- Sthaanam)... also...

.. as well as the Factors of the respective Kalhathra-Kaarakan...

.. and the Factors of Mangala-Griha MARS too... All these concurrently.

So, at any part of the past... if Rajni had not duly reciprocated to the degree of love and commitments of his Wife... or if the couple had misunderstandings or if they could not lead a Happy Married-Life... it is not due to Guru in the 7th...

.. but because of some other factors... as quoted above...linked to Dasa-bhukthi.

And those were the Events of Passing-clouds... resumed to Normalcy subsequently.

If Guru at 7th were bad... the whole Life-time would have been affected.. because of the wife and not just a part only.

For example Guru in Lagna is bad. ..as proved by the Reality of Lord Rama's Horoscope.... all through His Life....

..especially because of His wife... Seetha.... even though a Glorious Wife.!

I do not understand... why Mr Nichiro says that he will not discuss on Rama's Horoscope... being the "Chewed" one...!

In fact all Astrologers...even now-a-days... often quote Rama's Horoscope Nth time... as a Yardstick and Exemplary one ...

...rendering us unending amount of furthermore proofs on Reality of Life... anew every time... by means of deeper insights

..Similar to the Ocean...which is still quoted as example repeatedly by the Poets..

...even though Ocean too is a "Chewed" Simile for the Poets, Scientists, Philosophers and Artists.!

Lord Rama's Horoscope is the BEST ONE...any Human can afford to have.

...But still He suffered.!. WHY?. There lies the Logic of Astrology. Mankind has to learn !!!
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Nichiro

12th August 2006, 04:54 PM

Friends,

This is 2nd instalment of an article I wrote about 3 or 4 years back on Guru. I hope you would like it.

Guru Bhagawan as Giver of DHI Intellectual Aura, Tejas, Brilliance of Dhi shakti etc. is highly reveared in Vedic Astrology. His aspect infuses life, fortifies athe Bhava he aspects and gives superior grasping power of shastras.

In my last posting on Guru I have tried and posted some charts to corroborate the dictum BHAVA NASHA KARO JEEVA, I had posted its effects till 5th bhava. Some time back, in other postings in Another discussion group, I had posted my findings on Guru in 7th bhava also .

I have found Guru in 7th bhava delaying marriages and also giving an inclination of straying from normal marital life .It has been found to give love marriages and Extra marital interests.

Guru in 8th bhava has been found to take life and give Alpayu/Madhyayu to jatakas.
Guru in 9th has been found by me to be very detrimental to father in a lot of cases. Father's luck starts dwindling after the jatakas are born.

Guru in 10th bhava has been observed by me to give failures in business to self and loss of property to father.

Guru in 11th makes a person first born or 1st male child or it denotes miscarriage/short life to previous borns of the siblings elder to jataka. Father is found to be eldest born or he outsurvives all his siblings.

Guru in 12th bhava gives destruction of Shaiya sukham resulting in very late marriages , remarriage and inflow of money.I have found people with 12th Guru earning in excess and spending little.

Guru and Sani , always give something and take away something.
If in 9th, if a person becomes lucky, his father suffers or dies.
In second house, he gives a lot of money and then lands the man in neck deep debts.

In 4th house, if he gives a house, he takes away vahana or mother or somerthing connected with 4th house.

My whole exercise in giving examples of negetive traits of Guru is not to demean Guru but trying to enter in an excercise to reach the bottom of the thing and find out why GURU gives very bad results.

I have done research into the causes and found the cause to be very simple as always. As written before, Guru takes root in a bhava and in order to give something in aspects to other bhavas, it sucks the inner strength of the bhava like a tube well or a wick of a lamp.In this process some attributes of a bhava are destoyed.The examples are already given as above.

The cause may lie in his ownership of Dhanur Rasi.

What is so special about Dhanur Rasi?

Dhanur is an Agni Tatwa rasi which is termed as KRURA or PITILESS .
It is the sign that falls in 9th house of kalapurusha chart.Over this sign, a Jathaka has no control as it signifies Bhagya and Pita.

If Mesha is the jathaka, then Dhanur Rasi is the father. Nakshatras in Dhanur rasi are, MOOLA, belonging to Ketu, Purvashadha of Shukra and U.Shadha of Surya.If you think the significance of this, it means, Father puts Atma Tatwa(Sun) in His sperms(Shukra) and thereby reduces his own life (ketu)
.
Since only 1st pada of U.Shadha is in Dhanur Rasi, it means Father puts only a part of his Atma tatwa in the Sperm. As he may have many other children.

Guru is made the owner of this sign as the combination of Sperm, Atma tatwa signifies Sum total of Jeeva or Life.This is why Guru is also known as JEEVA. It may look paradoxical that a dry sign should signify life. But it is true.

Why the sign is Krura? This sign is Krura because When the Ojas of Father leaves him, he reduces his Tejas and his Atma shakti becomes depleated or KSHINA.

This is a krura karma.

All these is ok so far.

But why should the Dhanur Rasi be affecting its owner so much ?
I would like to take you back to my work on Plantery Nodes .
Out of the Nodes of Guru and Sani, we are concerned with the following nodes.

Jupiter'e Northen node GURA (My termonology)falls in Gemini,17Deg.40mts in Aridra Nakshatra.

Jupiter'e southern node GUKE falls in Dhanur Rasi .17Deg.40 mt
in P.Shadha Nakshatra.

Saturn's Northern Node SARA falls in Gemini.0.Deg 56mts.
in Mrigshirsha Nakshatra.

Saturn's southern node SAKE falls in Dhanur Rasi.0.Deg 56.mts Southern Node in MULA nakshatra.

IF YOU LOOK AT SOUTHERN NODE OF SATURN (Sani's Ketu), IT IS IN MULA AND THIS EXPLAINS WHY MULA NAKSHATRA IS SO POISONOUS.!!!Remarkable isn't it?

IF YOU LOOK AT SOUTHERN NODE OF GURU, (Ketu of Jupiter) IT IS IN SAGGITARIUS.!!
No wonder Guru is the Lord of Knowledge and Intelligence.

These nodes are as good as planets in those signs. Of the above nodes, it has been found that nodes of Mars,Jupiter and Saturn are very important and have a remarkable effect in mundane and personal life.

Since each node takes over 30,000 to 40,000 years to change a sign, we can practically say that they do not change their fixed positions during our lifetime.

Dhanur rasi is represented by A Hunter.
Dhanur Rasi has SAKE,and GUKE the southern nodes of Sani and Guru. It also has Mula Nakshatra of Lunar southern node Ketu.
Having three Ketus power is something very very powerful thing.

Ketu is termed as Daruna, Tikshna,Hangman,Atirogi, Sinful planet, karaka of Pain and suffering,Tamasika, living in cremation ground, without any Rasa,a snake, he is very old of Vayu prakriti,Akash Tatwa ,Headless spirit.

On the positive side, Ketu is Moksha karaka and Antargyani.
So when Guru becomes the lord of Dhanur Rasi, he is responsible for imbibing the attributes of Ketus of Dhanu Rasi.

Imagine how will it be when there are Two Permenent Ketus in Dhanur rasi and aspect of Sani's Rahu SARA and Guru's Rahu GURA on Dhanur Rasi ??.

Compared to this, Meena Rasi which is another Rasi owned by Guru , is totally opposite in nature more in tune with Guru's good attributes.
Hence Guru gives two types of results whenever he occupies anysign.
This result is part negetive and part positive.

So when we talk of Guru and his effects, we are talking of a planet with almost exactly opposite attributes.

He is a hangman and a killer and at the same time Giver of Life.
He is the chief cause of disease and he is the medicine.

Guru is very mighty and has very benign aspect.Guru gives us oxygen and is Jeeva.Without Guru's help, we would all be Mudha and lifeless.
Let us pray Guru with all our heart and full faith.

Brum Bruhaspataye Namah:

Nichiro

Sudhaama

13th August 2006, 08:41 PM

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GURU in 7th: Model-Horoscope + PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE.

Mr Nichiro has put forth a VERY INTERESTING and RICH Analysis on Guru and the allied aspects... in a beautiful presentation.

Here is a Model-Horoscope and the Resultant Life-Experience of my Intimate Friend of more than 60 years.

Date of Birth: 08 / 09 April, 1934. -- Time : 05-55 AM of 09th.

Lagna:- MEENA. -- Birth-Star: SRAVANA-4 (Thiruvonam)-- Rasi : MAKARA.

Location of Planets:---

Lagna(Meena):-- SOORYA, ANGAARAKA
5th (Kataka):-- KETHU
7th (Kanya):-- GURU
11th (Makara) :-- CHANDRA, RAAHU
12th (Kumbha) :-- SUKRA, SANI, BUDHA.

Life-Experience:--

(1) Born rich with a Silver-spoon... but within the age of 10, sufferings started. Father with meagre earning. Struggled for subsistence and Education... Lost all the Parental properties because of quarrels amongst the Paternal and Maternal uncles. Finally lost all the Properties inherited.

(2) Proven Honest and Trustworthy all through the past. Sincere and "Hard-worker". Acclaimed highly competent and Result-oriented. But NO RECOGNITION in career. Suffered a lot for the major part of Life until 60th age.

(3) Married at the age of 27... Lost the initial Two Male Babies by miscarriage. Subsequently 4 daughters and One Son.

(4) Met with a Major-accident... resulting in Bed-ridden for 6 years... No Income.

(5) Professional Career with different Employers... Total failure with heavy loss of Income. Business also a major blow by utter failure, due to cheating by all the Co-directors in collusion. ..Hand to mouth Subsistence for 19 long years.....with a Family of 7 members.!

(6) Has an EXEMPLARILY GOOD WIFE... who supported him and his family of Five Children... all through... Brought them up and got them all well-educated and employed... Highly supported and co-ordinated with her husband for the children's marriages by means of her inexplicable amount of Self-Sacrifice and Tolerance.... Utmost personal care on the Sickly Husband and the Children irrespectrive of her Husband's attention or Family-commitment

(7) Now...from the Jathaka's age about 60... the Family... rather the 5 children and the parents are quite well-placed MAINLY BECAUSE of the SELFLESS WIFE.!...

Here can we say the SEVENTH GURU... is a Parasite.?... or a Negative Malefic.?
..

Nichiro

13th August 2006, 10:03 PM

Dear Sudhaama Sir,

I am just leaving for my work place and have no time to discuss much in detail.

Your friend has Vakri Guru , the lord of his karma in Badhaka sthanam.

By just being in badhaka sthanam, your friend led a pauper's life but got a good wife.He got a good wife no doubt but he had cheating partners who were crooks and robbed him off his parnership, money and left him a pauper.
I hope you know that 7th house also indicates BUSINESS PARTNERS .

My point is, Guru , for his wife, robbed her off her financial happiness . Guru takes away something and gives something . So does Sani.

Will discuss more later.

Nichiro

Sudhaama

14th August 2006, 01:13 AM

Nichiro

14th August 2006, 09:24 AM

Dear Sudhaama Sir,

7th house is KALATHRA STHANAM agreed. But 7th house also means PARTNERS, PARTNESHIPS, Travels, Other Peopel, opponents and much more.

Guru does affect some or all indications of 7th house depending on its strength and othe factors .

Please stop treating 7th house only as Kalathra sthanam.

Nichiro

Sudhaama

14th August 2006, 08:20 PM

[quote="Nichiro"]

//... 7th house is KALATHRA STHANAM agreed. But 7th house also means PARTNERS, PARTNESHIPS, Travels, Other Peopel, opponents and much more.//

//Guru does affect some or all indications of 7th house depending on its strength and othe factors// .

Yes. Agreed. But in what way Guru has defeated the Strength and Bhava of the 7th House?... is my Question.

There are several cases in my vast experience I have observed as also advised to me by many of my Astrologer friends. And this one of my friend Mr. Vasu and his Wife Ms Vidhya quoted above as an Example...

... a TRUE CASE supported by ample experience of more than 60 long years.

One of the WORST HOROSCOPES...we can see normally in Life... since there are several Dhoshas.... due to almost all other planets too.

But invariably one and all Astrologers categorically assert... that this Jathaka was able to survive and further is able to exist and thrive...

...MAINLY BECAUSE OF GURU IN "SEVENTH HOUSE"... aspecting not only.. its own house Meena plus the 11th Laabha-Sthaanam.

Now let us see the status of other Planets and Houses clashing with Guru at 7th.... in all respects of that house.

KALHATHRA: The Jathaka has got an emulative Best-wife...HIGHLY LOVING...devoted and dedicated... and totally SELFLESS for the sake of her Husband. .. She surrendered not only her own self dedicatedly to her husband...but also all her possessions of wealth, jewels and Valuable Silver articles too... for the sake of subsistence of a big family, when the only Bread-winner husband became bed-ridden and sick subsequently. Finally she too became poor. What more one can expect from a Kalhathra?

PARTNERS: Yes ..Partners in business was an utter failure as already pointed out. But why? Was it due to Guru? No... In fact Guru has neutralized the Ill-effects caused by other planets. How?

Soorya the Adhipathi of the 6th, the Runha, Roga, Sathru Sthaanam.. placed at Lagna had done the maximum havoc... by aspecting the 7th bhava

Besides Guru is the 10th Karma-Sthaana-Adhipathi too. In that aspect Guru too had joined with Soorya to doom his life.

And Guru has got Kendra-Aadhipathya- Dhosha... due to the ownership of1 & 10 placed at 7.... which has affected his Sukha(4th) and Karma(10) aspects.

Angaaraka the Adhipathi of 2nd(Dhana-Kudumba- Sthaanam) plus 9th (Bhaagya-Sthaanam) ... placed with Soorya the Sathru at Lagna ...

... aspecting the 7th as well as Guru the Lagna-Adhipathi.. weakening the 7th bhava

Besides Angaaraka had become Nil to Asthanga-dhosha due to his conjunction with Soorya..

However all such deficiencies caused by other planets have been neutralized and balanced by Guru at 7th.

FRIENDS: He had the best friends true to its sense... who have come to his succour at his worst circumstances.

// Please stop treating 7th house only as Kalathra sthanam.//

Ah !... STOP TREATING THE KALHATHRA Bhavam?.. Why?. That is my main point of argument my dear friend.

So I sum up...My firm Stand ... DIFFERING WITH YOU...are.

(1) Guru at 7th and 9th are the Exceptions from the General Formulae... in the sense of location. Rather Guru is Very Good at 7th and 9th.

(2) You say Guru and Sani give something and Take-away something else.

May I know which one or more of other Grahas (Planets) is different in that respect?

Each and every Planet including Guru and Sani... give something and Take away something else....

...however Best or the Worst the Horoscope be!... WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

Guru is DHARMA-KAARAKA.... So he establishes JUSTICE... to EVERYBODY.
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Nichiro

14th August 2006, 09:32 PM

Dear Sudhaama Sir,

You do not seem to get the point. When I say that a Bhava is affected/destroyed, it means all indications denoted by a bhava get affected to a grater or lesser extent.
A wife can be good and devoted when Guru is in 7th. But how many of us want to know how did that woman feel when all was lost? Just because of her samskaras, she witstood stoiclayy all antics of her husband but her happiness was definately destroyed along with her money/streedhan etc. This is what I am trying to stress. If the Guru were to be much more malefic, he would have done further damage.

There is no exception to Guru's occupation of any house.
Guru and sani take away/give something is more evident because both have very long dasa periods. That is why their dasa leaves a lasting effect on a jathaka.

Guru is Dharma kaaraka and I do not disput that fact.

Please read my 2nd posting on Guru again. I have great regards for Guru.

Guru does not do justice. It is the work of Sani , he is the judge and awarder of punishment. Guru is a priest.

I took a prasna about this discussion and I think that this chart belongs to you. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Nev

Nichiro

Sudhaama

15th August 2006, 07:11 AM

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[quote="Nichiro"]

//You do not seem to get the point. When I say that a Bhava is affected/destroyed, it means all indications denoted by a bhava get affected to a grater or lesser extent.//

I am closely following your every point.

And what you say that...all indications denoted by a Bhava get affected, when a Bhava is affected / destroyed.... is the General-factor, I agree.

But do we see such a consequence here in the case of 7th Guru... especially on KALHATHRA-BHAVA.?

I have already justified that not only on Kalhathra- aspect but also in all other aspects of 7th house... Guru is good... and in this case of Vasu's Horoscope, the causes for his sufferings by the other factors of 7th house like Business... was due to some other reason as I had detailed. ...

...while Guru has done GOOD ONLY... with respects to Wife, Travels, Friends etc... as relevant to this house.

..Even in Business factor, Guru-bhava at 7th saved him... while it was detrimental by Karma-sthaana- Aadhipathyam and Kendra- Aadhipathyam.

..But for Guru in 7th..the COMPENSATING-BENEFIC... he would have been totally doomed to nil.

// A wife can be good and devoted when Guru is in 7th. But how many of us want to know how did that woman feel when all was lost? Just because of her samskaras, she witstood stoiclayy all antics of her husband but her happiness was definately destroyed along with her money/streedhan etc. This is what I am trying to stress. If the Guru were to be much more malefic, he would have done further damage.//

So you agree that Guru at 7th is NOT MALEFIC. Yes. anybody who is OPEN-MINDED... has to accept this Fact and Reality..

Besides... as I have already replied to Mr Selvakumar on the same point ... I reiterate... that the Kalhathra-bhaavam for any Jathaka... denotes ...

..ONLY WHAT HE / SHE WILL GET FROM HER SPOUSE... AND WHAT WILL BE HER PROPENSITY AND CHARACTER...

...and Not what she / he will get from the other side / consort.

This factor can be found out ONLY FROM HER KALHATHRA-BHAVAM OF HER HOROSCOPE.

//There is no exception to Guru's occupation of any house.
Guru and sani take away/give something is more evident because both have very long dasa periods. That is why their dasa leaves a lasting effect on a jathaka.//

Partly Acceptable... that the Guru-dhasa and Sani-dhasa leave a LASTING- EFFECT...even after the end of such periods... when compared to other Dhasas..

But this point has nothing to do with our discussion on 7th or 9th Guru.

I am still firm on my stand that GURU AT 7 AND 9 IS THE BENEFIC only

.. and that ALL PLANETS INCLUDING GURU AND SANI.. GIVE SOMETHING AS DUE ...

...AS ALSO TAKE AWAY SOMETHING ELSE... conforming to the relevant Horoscope...

... which is NOT EXCLUSIVE to Guru and Sani only.

If I am wrong... kindly disprove my above Two statements... by means of some other Horoscopes.

// Guru is Dharma kaaraka and I do not disput that fact.... Guru does not do justice. It is the work of Sani , he is the judge and awarder of punishment. Guru is a priest.//

As far as I know... Guru is no doubt a Guru...Teacher...but he is MORE A JUDGE IN REALITY... by which He teaches by Practical-Lessons....

.. similar to a Judge teaches to all other Culprits as well as to the Commonman.

... by his advance- action of passing the due Judgements to the deserving earlier cases...

Sani is the Implementor-Police... while Guru declares Judgement.

//I took a prasna about this discussion and I think that this chart belongs to you. Please correct me if I am wrong.//

I have already mentioned that it is of my friend Mr Vasu. Let us not overstretch on the matter of personal identity... because it is too private.

For us the Subject-matter is important... and NOT THE PERSON BEHIND..

Glad.. you have seen Prasna... May I know about his future? .. and anymore?
.

Nichiro

15th August 2006, 09:45 AM

Dear Sudhaama Sir,

If it makes you happy that 7th and 9th Guru is benefic, so be it.I do not want to over stretch this arguement.

However there are two charts in front of me with Guru in 7th.
One belongs to a lady who married a man who never considered her as own wife and had illicit relations with a woman all his life. She was widowed at age of 54.
Her whole life was struggle.

Another chart belongs to an young man who was engaged to a girl who broke her engagement with him. After a great search, he got married to just 10th pass girl. He is a double engineer

In my archives, I have many such charts but as you have taken a stand that 7th and 9th Guru is good , I will not discuss this point further.

Nichiro

Hindi

21st August 2006, 08:04 AM

JANUARY BABY

Pretty/handsome. Loves to dress up. Easily bored. Fussy. Seldom shows emotions. Takes time to recover when hurt. Sensitive. Down-to-Earth. Stubborn.

FEBRUARY BABY

Abstract thoughts. Loves reality and abstract. Intelligent and clever. Changing personality. Attractive. sexiest out of everyone. Temperamental. Quiet, shy and humble. Honest and loyal. Determined to reach goals. Loves freedom. Rebellious when restricted. Loves aggressiveness. Too sensitive and easily hurt. Gets angry really easily but does not show it. Dislikes unnecessary things. Loves making friends but rarely shows it. Horny. Daring and stubborn. Ambitious. Realizing dreams and hopes. Sharp. Loves entertainment and leisure. Romantic on the inside not outside. Superstitious and ludicrous. Spendthrift. Tries
to learn to show emotions.

MARCH BABY

Attractive personality. sexy. Affectionate Shy and reserved. Secretive. Naturally honest, generous and sympathetic. Loves peace and serenity. Sensitive to others. Great kisser. Easily angered. Trustworthy. Appreciative and returns kindness.
Hardly shows emotions. Tends to bottle up feelings. Observant and assesses others.

APRIL BABY

Suave and compromising. Funny and humorous. Stubborn. Very talkative. Calm and cool. Kind and sympathetic. Concerned and detailed. Loyal. Does work well with others. Very confident. Sensitive. Positive Attitude. Thinking generous. Good
memory. Clever and knowledgeable. Loves to look for information. Able to cheer evryone up and/or make them laugh. Able to motivate oneself and others. Understanding. Fun to be around. Outgoing. Hyper. Bubbly personality. Secretive.
Boy/girl crazy. Loves sports, music, leisure and traveling. Systematic. hott but has brains.

MAY BABY

Stubborn and hard-hearted. Strong-willed and highly motivated. Sharp thoughts. Easily angered. Attracts others and loves attention. Deep feelings. Beautiful physically and mentally. Firm Standpoint. Needs no motivation. Shy towards oppisite sex. Easily consoled. Systematic (left brain). Loves to dream. Strong clairvoyance. Understanding. Sickness usually in the ear and neck. Good imagination. Good physical. Weak breathing. Loves literature and the arts. Loves traveling. Dislike
being at home. Restless. Not having many children. Hardworking. High spirited.

JUNE BABY

You've got the best personality and are an absolute pleasure to be around. You love to make new friends and be outgoing. You are a great flirt and more than likely have an a very attractive partner. a wicked hottie. It is also more than likely that you have a massive record collection. You have a great choice in films, and may one day
become a famous actor/actress yourself - heck, you've got the looks for it!!!

JULY BABY

Fun to be with. Secretive. Difficult to fathom and to be understood. Quiet unless excited or tensed. Takes pride in oneself. Has reputation. Easily consoled. Honest. Concerned about people's feelings. Tactful. Friendly. Approachable. Emotional temperamental and unpredictable. Moody and easily hurt. dislikes nonsensical and unnecessary things. Guides others physically and mentally. Sensitive and forms impressions carefully. Caring and loving. Treats others equally. Strong sense of
sympathy. Wary and sharp. Judges people through observations. Hardworking. No difficulties in studying. Loves to be alone. Always broods about the past and the old friends. Waits for friends. Never looks for friends. Not aggressive unless provoked. Loves to be loved. Easily hurt but takes long to recover.

AUGUST BABY

outgoing personality. takes risks. feeds on attention. no self control. kind hearted. self confident. loud and boisterous. VERY revengeful. easy to get along with and talk to. has an "every thing's peachy" attitude. likes talking and singing. loves music. daydreamer. easily distracted. Hates not being trusted. BIG imagination. loves to be
loved. hates studying. in need of "that someone". longs for freedom. rebellious when withheld or restricted. lives by "no pain no gain" caring. always a suspect. playful. mysterious. "charming" or "beautiful" to everyone. stubborn. curious. independent. strong willed. a fighter.

SEPTEMBER BABY

Active and dynamic. Decisive and haste but tends to regret. Attractive and affectionate to oneself. Strong mentality. Loves attention. Diplomatic. Consoling, friendly and solves people's problems. Brave and fearless. Adventurous. Loving and caring. Suave and generous. Usually you have many friends. Enjoys to make love. Emotional.
Stubborn. Hasty. Good memory. Moving, motivates oneself and others. Loves to travel and explore. Sometimes sexy in a way that only their lover can understand.

OCTOBER BABY

Loves to chat. Loves those who love them. Loves to takes things at the center. Inner and physical beauty. Lies but doesn't pretend. Gets angry often. Treats friends importantly. Brave and fearless. Always making friends. Easily hurt but recovers easily. Daydreamer. Opinionated. Does not care to control emotions. Unpredictable.
Extremely smart, but definitely the hottest AND sexiest of them all.

NOVEMBER BABY

Trustworthy and loyal. Very passionate and dangerous. Wild at times. Knows how to have fun. Sexy and mysterious. Everyone is drawn towards your inner and outer beauty and independent personality. Playful, but secretive. Very emotional
and temperamental sometimes. Meets new people easily and very social in a group. Fearless and independent. Can hold their own. Stands out in a crowd. Essentially very smart. Usually, the greatest men are born in this month. If you ever begin a relationship with someone from this month, hold on to them because their one of a kind.

DECEMBER BABY

This straight-up means ur the most good-looking person possible... better than all of these other months! Loyal and generous. Patriotic. Competitive in everything. Active in games and interactions. Impatient and hasty. Ambitious. Influential in
organizations. Fun to be with. Easy to talk to, though hard to understand. Thinks far with vision, yet complicated to know. Easily influenced by kindness. Polite and soft-spoken. Having lots of ideas. Sensitive. Active mind. Hesitating, tends to delay. Choosy and always wants the best. Temperamental. Funny and humorous. Loves to
joke. Good debating skills. Has that someone always on his/her mind. Talkative. Daydreamer. Friendly. Knows how to make friends. Abiding. Able to show character. one guy/girl kind of person. Loveable. Easily hurt. Prone to getting colds. loves music. pretty/handsome. Loves to dress up. Easily bored. Fussy. Seldom shows
emotions. Takes time to recover when hurt. Sensitive.

Hulkster

21st August 2006, 11:04 AM

Hindi madam...although its quite related to this thread their perception of astrological knowledge is more abt the indian study of the stars and planets..konjam different..although the month by month perception is pretty close..i feel it might be more of a common person survey analysis rather than prediction.

Nichiro

21st August 2006, 04:50 PM

Hindi,

You have cut and pasted the whole piece from,

providence.craigslist.org/msr/190145436.html

This place is for discussion and not cut/paste jobs.

Nichiro

abkhlabhi

22nd August 2006, 11:04 AM

Dear Sudhaama and Nichiro and others,

I am new to this forum. I am very much interested in Astrology and I know only one drop.

An interesting discussion about Jupiter in 7th and 9th places.

From the disucssion I found that you all are discussed about the placement of planents. While analysing the power of a planet, we should consider malefics and benefics planets of the ascendant, Navamsa and the same time give importance to running Dasa and Bhukthi Lords and other combinations and proceed further.

I don't know why most of them are not considering Dasa and Bhukthi lords while predicting the horoscope.

My sister's Son born during Oct'6. Till 1995 he suffered, both health and financial wise. But now he settled in life and lead a luxurious life, bought two flats and cars, etc. and he is in Chennai. Both his and Lord Rama horoscope are similar. Out of Seven planets, (exlcuding Raghu and Kethu) Five plaents are in Own Houses and Two planets are debiliation associated with two planets and thus gets neecha banga raja yogas. Five plents are own house and two neecha banga raja yogas. From the planet position, the native horoscope is an excellant one and he may become an stong person. But due to weak Dasa and Bhukthi , till 30 years he suffered , now he settled down and made wealth. He is still working as an purchase officer in a Pvt. Ltd Co., in Chennai.

My point is here that one should have powerful Dasa and Bhukthi. Otherwise, life will be miserable. hence while analysing the horoscope , do consider the Dasa and Bhukthi period also.

Tia

22nd August 2006, 04:11 PM

sum1 tell me about the relationship between Leo's and Libras please :smile: are they enemies or friends or tight friends? etc

ramky

23rd August 2006, 03:32 AM

hi Gaayu ! here's what i found about compatibility betwwen Leo & Libra :

When Leo and Libra join together in a love match, theirs is an agreeable union. Leo and Libra experience a deep understanding of the inner-workings of the other. When the Lion's unbounded energy mixes with Libra's natural sense of harmony, this is a romance of great balance. Leo and Libra are both outlandish versus reserved, direct versus peace loving. They can enjoy a very smooth relationship because each can appreciate and benefit from the positive attributes of the other.

Libra calms and soothes Leo's flamboyance. As a couple, Leo and Libra are well balanced. Libra lays on the charm and good manners, which tame Leo's direct and acerbic personality. But Leo is far more decisive than Libra. Leo can help their partners to make decisions more easily and act on them, and they can teach the art of spontaneity.

Leo is ruled by The Sun and Libra is ruled by the Planet Venus. The two Signs coming together form the basic foundation of relationships -- warmth and passion. The Sun and Venus go well together. The sun is a masculine energy and Venus a feminine, so this relationship strikes a balance between energies. Venus is about the beauty of romance, and The Sun is about invigorating life spreading warmth. This couple sustain one another for a long time.

When they are joined, anything is possible, but this couple must be mindful of one another's feelings and desires. Leo's action-oriented approach to may conflict with Libra's more passive, come-what-may outlook. Both Signs have a variety of interests, and Leo's need to get involved gives them great stories to share with the more reserved Libra.

Leo's endurance outpaces the fleeting whims of Libra, the initiator. They have to work together to make their dreams come true. Leo will be the leader because of their strength and forceful nature. Libra will quietly take the reins from an intellectual and team-oriented perspective. Leo likes to give orders through personal authority while Libra charms others into doing things and is happy to placating Leos. It's important for Leo to understand sacrifice. Libra, able to see both sides of the argument, can compromise easily, while Leo may be more put out over having to yield.

What's the best aspect of the Leo-Libra relationship? Each partner makes up for what the other is missing, so theirs is a highly compatible relationship.

Hindi

26th August 2006, 09:00 AM

oops.. sorryy... :oops:

Nichiro

28th August 2006, 08:19 AM

What happened to my learned friends? No more discussions?

tfmlover

28th August 2006, 11:50 AM

NO ! more discussions
Nichiro :lol: this place is now for cut n paste

if you can ? pls tell me why you omit pluto , neptune . Chiron and Lilith .only if you can
thanks

Nichiro

28th August 2006, 04:18 PM

tfmlover,

Mercury, Mars , Venus , Jupiter and saturn are the planets owning two houses each.
IMHO, they are having delegated responsibilities of planets , Uranus, Neptune Pluto and Mr.X which is the 10th planet.

Like in Music, once 7th note is over, the next note of second Octave starts from the same place (as in flute), same way IMHO after Sun and Moon, the planets that follow own two houses . If you read my article on Astrology and Periodic table, the planets follow electrone placement rule of 2, 8 , 18 etc.

Nichiro

tfmlover

29th August 2006, 07:06 AM

Sudhaama

31st August 2006, 12:12 AM

thanks Nichiro i will read
learned some interesting facts about the eye sight in astrology
i like to know if you analyzed any like below
saturn in 4th house there are chances person born will lose his sight.

mars or lord of 8th house occupy the ascendant and be also aspected by Venus or Jupiter could become be one-eyed.

there will be a spot in the eye or troubles seeing
if Mars and the Moon be conjoined (in a single house and) in the same degree
or Mercury in front of Sun , Venus in 1st house or 8th house and be aspected by a malefic .

pls if you can

One of the Factors of the SECOND HOUSE from Lagna (Ascendant) is... EYESIGHT.

...and the Kaarakathwam for Eyesight rests with SOORYA (Sun)... in addition to other Kaarakathwas for Him...

... 'KANH KETTA-PINBU SOORYA-NAMASKAARAMAA?"... Tamil Proverb.

So any prediction on Eyesight at any stage of Life...

...must be judged on the basis of...

(1) Owner of the 2nd House and his status in the Horoscope.

(2) The 2nd House owner's relations with other planets.

(3) Planets occupying the 2nd house... and their relations with other planets.

(4) Soorya's status, especially His aspects and relations with 2nd house.

(5) Dhasa Bhukthi Naatha's relations with the 2nd house Occupant as well as its owner.
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Tia

31st August 2006, 01:11 AM

Oh thanxxxxxxxx ramkeyy!!!!!! :D

hi Gaayu ! here's what i found about compatibility betwwen Leo & Libra :

When Leo and Libra join together in a love match, theirs is an agreeable union. Leo and Libra experience a deep understanding of the inner-workings of the other. When the Lion's unbounded energy mixes with Libra's natural sense of harmony, this is a romance of great balance. Leo and Libra are both outlandish versus reserved, direct versus peace loving. They can enjoy a very smooth relationship because each can appreciate and benefit from the positive attributes of the other.

Libra calms and soothes Leo's flamboyance. As a couple, Leo and Libra are well balanced. Libra lays on the charm and good manners, which tame Leo's direct and acerbic personality. But Leo is far more decisive than Libra. Leo can help their partners to make decisions more easily and act on them, and they can teach the art of spontaneity.

Leo is ruled by The Sun and Libra is ruled by the Planet Venus. The two Signs coming together form the basic foundation of relationships -- warmth and passion. The Sun and Venus go well together. The sun is a masculine energy and Venus a feminine, so this relationship strikes a balance between energies. Venus is about the beauty of romance, and The Sun is about invigorating life spreading warmth. This couple sustain one another for a long time.

When they are joined, anything is possible, but this couple must be mindful of one another's feelings and desires. Leo's action-oriented approach to may conflict with Libra's more passive, come-what-may outlook. Both Signs have a variety of interests, and Leo's need to get involved gives them great stories to share with the more reserved Libra.

Leo's endurance outpaces the fleeting whims of Libra, the initiator. They have to work together to make their dreams come true. Leo will be the leader because of their strength and forceful nature. Libra will quietly take the reins from an intellectual and team-oriented perspective. Leo likes to give orders through personal authority while Libra charms others into doing things and is happy to placating Leos. It's important for Leo to understand sacrifice. Libra, able to see both sides of the argument, can compromise easily, while Leo may be more put out over having to yield.

What's the best aspect of the Leo-Libra relationship? Each partner makes up for what the other is missing, so theirs is a highly compatible relationship.

ramky

31st August 2006, 06:49 AM

Gaayu : ur most welcome :D

Nichiro

31st August 2006, 09:37 AM

thanks Nichiro i will read
learned some interesting facts about the eye sight in astrology
i like to know if you analyzed any like below
saturn in 4th house there are chances person born will lose his sight.

mars or lord of 8th house occupy the ascendant and be also aspected by Venus or Jupiter could become be one-eyed.

there will be a spot in the eye or troubles seeing
if Mars and the Moon be conjoined (in a single house and) in the same degree
or Mercury in front of Sun , Venus in 1st house or 8th house and be aspected by a malefic .

pls if you can

tfmlover,

I will endorse sri Sudhaama's statement that 2nd house rules over eyesight. Also 12th house.

SHUKRA SENDU TRIKASTHO , JANUSHI NISHI NARA SYATTADA ANDHAKATWAM.
So says a sloka in Jathakalankar. It means, If sukra is with Moon in 3,6,8 and 12th house, the jathaka loses eyesight and turns blind.

This rule is very well proven.
In addition, I have seen Venus and Moon in Lagna also gives blindness/weak eyes. Example is Steve Wander.

Nichiro

tfmlover

31st August 2006, 10:17 AM

Sudhaama Nichiro :| astrolgy not sea 7 kadal :shock:
eclipsed sun occupying the lagna the person becomes blind too hey

Sanguine Sridhar

31st August 2006, 10:31 AM

This thread is interesting... I have weaker vision (Sight) too..

My doubt is that after people got aged their eyesight becomes weaker(Even though it is good in youth)! How does the astrology supports this?

One more doubt is the physical appearence is directly propotional to the horoscope? I mean Height/Weight?

If the person is very tall then which planet is ruling him? If that is the case then all the people who are ruled by that particular planet are taller?

Thanks,
Sridhar

tfmlover

31st August 2006, 11:14 AM

shakthi ! mars !
Mars and Mercury aspect each acceptably - born will be tall
Mars be in the 7th well positioned will be tall too
nichiro sudaama will tell better

Sudhaama

31st August 2006, 07:53 PM

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- General Remedial Measures

I reiterate that Astrology is a VEDIC-SCIENCE...rather a part of Veda...

...which has been clarified and analytically authenticated by Varaha-mihira.

Since it is part of Veda the Gospel from God... we can believe that it is for the BENEFIT OF MANKIND...

We have to AVAIL such a FOREWARNING KNOWLEDGE ...

..by the due REMEDIALMEASURES... as the case of Physical Sickness handled by a Medical practioner...

...and further mending our future to OUR BEST ADVANATAGE POSSIBLE... How?

One True case...

By seeing one Pretty Girl's Horoscope, when she was just 12 ... the Astrologer warned her parents... that she will be trapped in an UNDUE Love-affair at her age of 16 ...

...and that if due precautionary and preventive measures are not taken ... it would not be possible to retrieve her from the clutches of the Evil-minded Male-Lover. The parents could not believe.

However they were secretively watchful. To their great surprise... it developed so, while the Girl was very innocent and Soft-natured... contrary to the Devilish propensities of the luring lover....

The Girl was adamant to marry him....

....since innocent and ignorant of the malicious intentions of the Male-Lover.

By the Timely intervention, the Girl was saved.

This is just One instance out of several Hundreds of practical cases..

...where Astrology...the MYSTERIOUS SCENCE... has helped a lot... lot and lot .

Remedial measures... as I have mentioned already are ....

(1) By practical Preventive measures if and where possible as in the above case.

(2) By Mani-Sasthra... wearing the apt Gems... on the advise of the Astrologer.

(3) By prayers to any God of the person's faith... as also the relevant planets.

(4) By offering Dhaanams to the poor... who are affected by similar Dhoshas.

(5) By helping/ serving any other person with the same Dhosha... to get retrieved.

(6) By Astrological Parihaaras... and GRAHA-PREETHI.

As a BENEFICIARY CLIENT FOR ASTROLOGERS... for about 70 years ...

... I assert.. . that.. ASTROLOGY CAN NEVER FAIL... and is..

... WHOLLY DEPENDABLE... for our Practical Future Life-Guidance !!!
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Sudhaama

4th September 2006, 12:11 AM

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- Why ASTROLOGY... a part of VEDA?

Veda is a Gospel propounded and propogated by God towards the Humanity...

... for EMANCIPATION.... SELF-REALISATION.... and SELF-ENDEAVOUR towards EARTHLY- ADVANCEMENT

... based on Truth in the God's Message and ...

... the REALITY IN LIFE... partly contrary to Mankind's Expectations.

In that context... Man gets perplexed on seeing varied Status and extent of Pleasures and Sufferings...Success and Failures... Achievements and Disappointments...

... amongst the Human-beings themselves... and sometimes even amongst the brethren in the same family...

...while all are God's creation... Does it mean...GOD IS PARTIAL?

No. Not all... God wants to help the Humans by reminding that the Births are caused by Karmas (Commitments of Previous births)

...and so, in the Current Birth... the Humans have to clear off ...such Positive and Negative Indebtedness ... carried-over from previous births.

On that purview...Man needs help... by having the Status of his Accounts on Life.

That Account...the BALANCE-SHEET of previous births... is the Horoscope....

But the Horoscope is NOT AN ORDAINED DESTINY... nor a BOUNDEN DECREE.

.. NOR A SACRED COMMANDMENT from GOD... Nor a Fatwa... DEMANDING to make the Humans silently ABIDE by its outcome.

But only just to know... the position of previous Years(Births) Balance Sheet... along with the Opening-Balance.

Similar to the Balance-sheets varying from Company to Company...

...the Man's Balance-sheets (Horoscope) too... varies from person to person.

Taking stock of the Real-position... as we start planning and developing towards the Company's future...

...we have to start working on the various Messages from our Horoscopes

There cannot be a Worst Horoscope... than the Tamil-Poet Mahakavi Bharathi.

...due to which he inexplicably and UNDULY suffered ...RIGHT FROM THE MOMENT OF HIS BIRTH...

... as also subsequently too... along with his whole family, including the innocent child and wife...as also unfairly humiliated.

Despite all such negative factors... he stood abreast and eventually proved successful AS A MAN...

... as also became famous by means of his accomplishments on a Valuable contribution of TAMIL-TREASURE for the posterity.

The most Surprise is that despite all such dicouraging background...

... he wrote... ETHANAI KODI INBAM VAITHAAY IRHAIVAA.!! (Ah! How much of Earthly pleasures you have created Oh God)

Besides... One Tamil Proverb...

...OORAAR PILHLHAIYAI OOTTI VALHARTHAAL THAN PILHLHAI THAANAE VALHARUM

...which means... If one pays attention towards the welfare of others children, his child will get taken care off (by the Support of God)... AUTOMATICALLY (Even without its Parents due care)

"SERVICE TO HUMANITY EQUALS SERVICE TO GOD".

Since God deems such Social-service... as SHARING HIS DUTIES / COMMITMENTS... He being the Protector.

So as I have already detailed before... conforming to the Jathaka-Dhoshas...

...one can get compensated by the matching REPAYMENT..
of Social-service.

So to say...if one's Horoscope shows his Sickly child ...

...he can solve it... by rendering Voluntary-service... to A SIMILARLY PLACED POOR CHILD...

And if the Horoscope shows... "No child"...

...he can nullify such a Negative Outcome... Horoscopic-message of the past...

...by supporting several children in an Orphanage...

...alongside ADOPTING ANY POOR CHILD....

There the MERCIFUL God... SHOWERS ABUNDANT GRACE... Thwarting the Astrological truth.

Yes... HOROSCOPE CAN FAIL TOO... by means of our apt and Healthy Counter-actions.

So to say... Even the Subha-Yogas (Good-effects) of a Horoscope... can radically fail, beyond certain stage...

...if one is a Grave-sinner in the Current birth.

Similarly even the Ava-yoga Worst Horoscope too can fail... contrarily ...

... if the Holder LEADS A REALISTIC LIFE... conforming to the Ethical-Doctrines ordained by God...for Humanity....

... parallelly SHARING WITH GOD'S EARTHLY DUTIES / COMMITMENTS.

... which RESULTS IN HIS HAPPY LIFE... Contradicting his Sickly Horoscope.!!!

I mean all these... by observing several strong cases in my Practical life ... for more than 60 years...

...which also conforms to a Sloka of Varaha-mihira... the Great Author of Indian-Astrology.

... INCREDIBLE.... but TRUE.

God does not like any of His Child to Suffer...

... although due... due to his own making of the past.!!!

...But he insists that the indebted-man MUST RAISE UP HIMSELF ... BY SELF-ENDEAVOUR....

...on which God will only render the Help and Support from behind...

... INTERVENING at any stage... when it becomes beyond the Human-capacity.

...One such Divine-Support for Humanity... is Astrology.
.

Sudhaama

3rd April 2007, 12:12 AM

venkathoney

3rd April 2007, 12:23 AM

Nice. Very althe best to that strange hubber

r_kk

3rd April 2007, 09:21 PM

Don't get surprised... Sudhaama is very famous for writting real like strange stories without giving any proof which can be traceable or tested under any scientific tools. The above story is nothing compared to his one of the previous story about a circus company who found their missing lion after consulting a astrologer....

Sudhaama

4th April 2007, 02:25 AM

.
. Astrologer MAY FAIL... but Not ASTROLOGY.!!!

One of our Hubbers from Malaysia... a stranger to me... sought my help by furnishing my TRUSTED ASTROLOGER's address at Chennai.

On my due response, he had consulted her. According to her advice...

... wore a RING embedded with the prescribed Gems...

... to counter the Onslaughts of worst sufferings for several years at a stretch.

Now he has thankfully and happily informed me that...

.. just 15 days after wearing the Ring with the Gems ...

all his problems got miraculously solved...

... due to some SUDDEN TURN OF DEVELOPMENTS... incredible.!!

Consequently he is VERY HAPPY... now.!!!

...Because of the UNFAILING Astrology... the GOD-MADE SCIENCE.!!!
.

Whatever the events I have quoted all along here... are true... not my Imagination or Concoction... nor Fiction.

It is not necessary for me to fabricate stories in favour of Astrology ... which is neither my profession..

...nor I am in any way benefitted by such boost-ups.

After all I am JUST A CLIENT BENEFICIARY... as much as any other commoner here.

And similarly I reiterate that ...True to my Conscience... I say... the Instance narrated above is a TRUE EVENT..

But I do not want to reveal the relevant beneficiary... the Malaysian Hubber's identity.

.. Because it is his Personal affair... which I should not reveal.

I have been IMMENSELY BENEFITTED BY ASTROLOGY... in my long past life of worst sufferings and struggles INEXPLICABLE...

.. as well as the hundreds of others on my friendly...SELFLESS... Guidance.

While God gives sufferings due to some reason... He also opens new doors and means for mankind...

... to EXTRICATE HIMSELF FROM THE SUFFERINGS.., by means of such knowledge...

.. Rare Spiritual-Sciences... perceptible only by Soul-supported Wisdom

One of such Occult-Science Knowledge provided by God is Astrology

However it is left to the discretion of my friends here...

... either to believe or DISBELIEVE ME.

But I wish... LET THE HUMANITY REAP THE BENEFIT of this Vedic-Science... ASTROLOGY...

...in their OWN INTERESTS of HAPPINESS and ADVANCEMENT in Earthly Life.!!!
.

4th April 2007, 03:13 AM

is true that if a person learns the future of others either by palm reading or face vibrations.. he will have negative effect and they will be unsuccessful :?:

Sudhaama

4th April 2007, 04:38 AM

.
Deserving Astrologer-Consultant.. Who??

is true that if a person learns the future of others either by palm reading or face vibrations.. he will have negative effect and they will be unsuccessful :?:

Not at all... What the Palm says... is Palmistry..

...and what the Birth-chart states... as one's earnings from his previous births is Astrology.

Both can never fail...if the Consultant is really competent.

Similar to a Water-diviner... who needs some Soul-powers also...

.. to support and aptly define the message he gets by means of his Body-vibrations... an Astrologer too.

An Occult-Scientist Professional Consultant.. be he the Palmist or Astrologer... also must have some backing strength of Intuition..

.. which can be gained only by the Spiritual powers / Soul-strength... within him.

Some of the Astrologers miserably fail in their readings.. because of the lack of their Soul-might... in addition to Knowledge of the subject plus Wisdom.

That is why, all the professionals are invariably the staunch God-believers in some form... especially the Navagraha devathas.

Such devotion and faith on the Super-human power.. builds up their Soul-power.

So anybody of such a calibre... cannot afford to be mean-minded to think ill of others...

...eventually causing the negative result...running counter to his worthy Scientific predictions.

So we must be very careful to choose only such an Astrologer-consultant..

...who is not greedy of money.. nor jealous of others.

... and who is a Theist... a Truly God-believer... of any Faith.
.

Sudhaama

12th April 2007, 04:11 AM

.
.Astrology means LIFE- BATTLE.. Not SUCCUMB to FATE!

If one deeply studies Astrology... it can be clearly understood that..

.. Astrology is intended to show our PAST STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES ...

.. left as our Balance-sheet on our past Karmas.. from previous births.

With such message on what is in store for us... ready as stock...

.. we have to develop our Life-future... taking support of our favourables...

.. and FIGHT AGAINST THE UNFAVOURABLES...

...taking Life as a BATTLEFIELD... to confront our Inner and Outer-Enemies..

.. alongside CO-OPERATING with the God's Will... as per His Comprehensive-plan for us.

That is why, the Subject of Astrolgy.. a SCIENCE... has been made as a part of the God's Statement... the GOSPEL... VEDAS.

...God expects us to thrive and advance with Reality-Knowledge on Life.
.

tekton

5th June 2007, 06:24 PM

selvakumar

21st June 2007, 01:47 PM

http://www.astrology.co.uk/news/twins.htm

A good article On Time and Date Twins :)

Nichiro

25th June 2007, 07:39 AM

Hi!
Who can give an advice on one chart?
the girl has MA in 9 aries, aspected by JU in 5-th in sagitarius, Leo lagna, RA in 6-th, SA in 10-th, MO in 7-th, very good positions! which should act as benefics , BUT on contrary, she has lost all her money, pareths died, etc etc. Instead of luck she is getting a chain of misfortunes ...
Maja, female, 16.jan 1972. 18.30, GMT+1 , 44.50N, 20.20 E

tekton,

first of all, the birth data given by you is wrong.

The lady was born on 16th February.

She might have lost her parents in Sani dasa.

Mars is badhakadhipathi and hence is #1 malefic for her.

Sani in 10th aspects her 4th and the 12th and also 7th house.

This placement is enough to cause her lifelong misery as saturn owns 6th and the 7th house.

Guru is in Moola nakshatra,his ishta phala is 12.8 rupas whereas Kashta phala is 46.10

Saturn has ishta phala of 13.31 and kashta phala of 38.74

How can she be happy?

If she prays lord Sada Shiva chanting Maha Mrityunjaya mantra, she can have relief.

Nichiro

Sudhaama

26th June 2007, 09:47 AM

.
.Babies born at a Time and Hospital... to different Mothers.

Dear Nichiro,

Welcome back... after a long break in this rich Thread...

...WELL-PERTINENT to your interests...

...and WELL-RELEVANT to your EXPERTISE.

Well. I have a Question... please reply.

Suppose two different Babies are born at the same Hospital...

...to different mothers...of highly different status...

...at one and the same EXACT TIME...

Then the Horoscopes will be the same for both the Babies. Is it Not?

Then practically how and why they differ in life... later?
.

madhu

26th June 2007, 10:28 AM

Hi..

I remember an old saying..

"oru nErathil piRandha rAjavukku rajjiyam kidaichA, pariyArikku pakkathu gRamam kidaikkum"

means..

A king and barber born on the same day, time etc.

while the king win another country, the barber expands his business in another village.

Its the the size of material thing.. but the inner feelings, satisfaction etc. the person get may be of same level.

this may be possible. isnt it ?

Nichiro

26th June 2007, 04:27 PM

r_kk

26th June 2007, 09:19 PM

rk_k,

you are raising a finger at a person who is a member for over last 7yeas.
I think you shouldthink before posting such a remark.

Nichiro

I know many of your previous posts for last so many years... Your famous Nostradamus like prophesis, earth quake predictions, new theories... your commerrcial web sites, your prediction of Chinize guide to a singapore based Ph.D scholar etc etc... lot much to say. Any way thanks for coming to this thread after long silence... Please go ahead and I am not going stop you. I am still your fan of your threads on cookery (real one.. i.e., food)

tekton

1st July 2007, 11:57 PM

hi! I didn't quite get misunderstanding between nichiro and other hubber, but to clear this situation, I have to tell you, that imm a real person, just joined hub, saw some posts by nichiro and likedd it (especially about JU ), and asked for some explanation from him regarding one chart that bothers me... I am familiar with westwrn astrology, and new in jyotish. which I find fascinating... I'm 45 fom serbia (ex-yugoslavia).

tekton

2nd July 2007, 12:07 AM

Maja, female, 16.FEB 1972. 18.30, GMT+1 , 44.50N, 20.20 E[/quote]

tekton,

first of all, the birth data given by you is wrong.

The lady was born on 16th February.

She might have lost her parents in Sani dasa.

Mars is badhakadhipathi and hence is #1 malefic for her.

Sani in 10th aspects her 4th and the 12th and also 7th house.

This placement is enough to cause her lifelong misery as saturn owns 6th and the 7th house.

Guru is in Moola nakshatra,his ishta phala is 12.8 rupas whereas Kashta phala is 46.10

Saturn has ishta phala of 13.31 and kashta phala of 38.74

How can she be happy?

If she prays lord Sada Shiva chanting Maha Mrityunjaya mantra, she can have relief.

Nichiro[/quote]

yes yoa are right. february....
what does this mean:
Mars is badhakadhipath
tekton

tekton

2nd July 2007, 05:14 PM

badhakadhipathi:
I just read an article on badhakadhipathi: for Simha lagna its 11-th sign?... Geminy. meaning ME, as its ruler ?? and not Mars ?

r_kk

2nd July 2007, 10:01 PM

Tekton,
Thanks for clarifying!

Nichiro,
Sorry for doubting at the first instant! (past experience may be the reason!). I have found so may free utilities in internet which can give similar advice... Still there are lot of contradcitions... How a birth happened in large geographic region which falls under particular GMT makes one's life miscerable!

Nichiro

2nd July 2007, 10:14 PM

badhakadhipathi:
I just read an article on badhakadhipathi: for Simha lagna its 11-th sign?... Geminy. meaning ME, as its ruler ?? and not Mars ?

tekton,

Thanks for posting your identity.

She is born in Simha lagna (Leo) .
Simha is a fixed sign and as per the tenets of Hindu astrology,
11th house is badhaka sthana(house of obstaclecals) and its lord is Badhakadhipathi for moving signs. (Aries, Cancer Libra etc)

For fixed signs, 9th lord is Badhakadhipathi (Taurus, Leo etc)

and for dual signs, 7th lord is Badhakadhipathi. (Gemini, Virgo etc)

Maja's chart is Leo ascendent.
Thus 9th lord Mars becomes Badhakadhipathi and 9th house is Badhakasthana.

Nichiro

rk_k,

Past experience may be with others but I don't need such cheap tricks.

Apology accepted.

A birth chart is like a genetic sequence.But a very broad sequence.

People tend to behave, act, subjected to etc for certain fixed events etc.

Beyond a point, information becomes Gyana (endless knowledge is Gyana).
With our limitations, we can know only the part of the whole.
Who knows what , how and why is whole?

Nichiro

Sudhaama

2nd July 2007, 10:26 PM

.
.Serious Quest with a Constant THIRST...???...!!!

Tekton,
Thanks for clarifying!

Nichiro,
Sorry for doubting at the first instant! (past experience may be the reason!). I have found so may free utilities in internet which can give similar advice... Still there are lot of contradcitions... How a birth happened in large geographic region which falls under particular GMT makes one's life miscerable!

Dear Mr "r_kk"

Your doubt on the worth of Astrology is reasonable and hence understandable...

Such basic doubts and opposition may strike in any wise commonman's mind too. In fact it is good to have such an objective mind coupled with curiosity, the main factor behind.

Once a staunch Atheist became a Serious and well-knowledged Scholar propogandist Theist... later on as Vivekananda.

What made him great?... Curiosity to KNOW...

...plus SERIOUS Quest with a CONSTANT Thirst....

..which lead him to the right Guru... which approach fetched him the Answers.

I suggest you.. my dear Friend... instead of just criticising others without knowing even the rudimentaries of the subject...

.. and UNDULY HURTING the Scholars.. by baseless allegations and doubting on his personage even.!!

So please go through the authentic books on the subject or approach a well-knowledged teacher to convince you,

... on your wise questions... logically meaningful... just as a CLIENT.

In brief.. Astrology is an Occult- Science based on Astronomy.
.

r_kk

3rd July 2007, 06:12 AM

Nichiro

3rd July 2007, 06:47 AM

Sudhaama

3rd July 2007, 08:46 AM

Dear Sudhamma/Nichiro,
Till now, none of your explanations brought any belief on this so called occult science. Both of you haven't validated any of your saying scientifically. Also both of you didn't take my simple challange which was kept in this forum few years ago. So, I have large reasons to doubt.

Astrology uses bit of astronomy but it is far fetched to call it as science. It is just like comparing foresnic science of finger printing and Kairekai Jothidam or Vaastu with advanced civil engineering.

Dear "rr_k"

I have repeatedly clarified my stand that...

...this Thread is NOT INTENDED for any Debate on Astrology and its Veracity..

..nor meant for Argument with anybody who might have come to an inference that it is a Farce and False-Science..

..but only intended for DISCUSSIONS... amongst those who are experienced on the subject...

..and for those who are anxious to LEARN FROM OUR EXPERIENCES..

We are NOT INTERESTED TO CHALLENGE or COUNTER-CHALLENGE with anybody of controversial Opinion and Surmises.

As far as I am concerned I am not interested to point out others wrongs or mistakes.. even if I have adequate grounds to prove so.

Because I have not come here for it... since I consider it as a waste of my precious time...

...as also INVITING UNNECESSARY MISUNDERSTANDINGS...

Rather I am least interested to convince anybody... who has DECIDED TO DIFFER.

Let anybody believe or disbelieve this Great Treasure of India.

Dear friend... Let this be our LAST REMINDER...

...not to INTERFERE in our valuable and lively discussions ANYMORE.
.

tekton

3rd July 2007, 05:17 PM

"There are more things on heavens that our mind can even dream of " W.S. sorry for very bad quote :(

The problem with astrology is not in: does it work? because it does. (Even a fresh student of astrology can easilly recognize various temperaments od signs. It is very easy to notice Aries temperament and make difrference to Pisces temperament).
The problem is: How does it work? Well nobody knows... (yet). Astrology is descriptive and based on statistics. (theres more into it, but for this type of discusion its enough)

It is important to notice that even some official sciences are very descriptive in interpretations missing the clear phusical mechanisams of function. For instance medicine. Its statements are descriptive and based on statistics lacking the basic excplanations. For instance: males have testosteron and females estrogen. No doctor on earth can tell you phisical mechanisam of how testosteron phisically- (scientifically) influence male mind and caracter. And it does! We dont know why and how, but the effects are huge. And we dont doubt the effects because we dont know egzactlly how it works. Based on that testosteron thing we have wars, the shape of our culture, etc. which are the facts of our life.

This is an positivistic philosophy explanation of astrology mechanisms, which can be interpreted further more as: "we dont know how, and why astrology works, but we will some day, when our knowledge and science evolve more."

tekton

3rd July 2007, 07:10 PM

female, 16.FEB 1972. 18.30, GMT+1 , 44.50N, 20.20 E :

Reading Lal Kitab ( by the way what is your opinion on it?) I found that SO, MO, ME konjunction in 7-th is "excelent" , and that SA in 10-th is (almoust) never inauspicious...
There must be some catch in this chart which could (as an key) unlock beneficial influence. I cant find it.... and it makes me angry :)

when calculating this chart as tropical, its completlly different story.. it doesnt have any of beneficials like in Vedic chart because :
SO,ME are in 6-th ,
JU is in 4-th but in Capricorn, debilitated..
MA in Ta , VE in AR (also deb.)
MO in Pisces, (doubtfulll)
etc.

Nichiro

3rd July 2007, 10:14 PM

madhu

4th July 2007, 05:34 AM

Nichiroji..

i dont know much about astrology but interested in learning.

I came across a book titled "poorva parasharyam", published by Saraswathi mahal library of Thanjavur, in which the "dasa-bukthi" has been mentioned differently. It is said to be taken from the principles of Parashar and also from "Brihath jAthakam".

I just know that the dasa of the birth star will run from the time of birth ( remaining time of the star during the date of birth ) and then according the the list given in almanac.

But in this book the dasas are given in different way such as.. total period is 108 years and the first dasa is always ravi dasa.. etc.

will you please clarify in simple manner ?

Nichiro

4th July 2007, 06:42 AM

madhu

4th July 2007, 07:31 AM

Nichiroji,

Saraswathi Mahal is publsihing in limited numbers only and sometimes we may have to wait for a very long period. you must be knowing that these texts are taken from the old palm leaf manuscripts kept there. This one was published in 1993.

I borrowed this book ( tamil version ) from my friend.

I donno about English or other language editions. Let me check with some friends at thanjavur and inform you

Nichiro

4th July 2007, 10:09 AM

madhu,

I would love to know more about this book and its principles.
I have put this info on yahoo group and will let you know more if I get some info.

Thanks

Nichiro

r_kk

5th July 2007, 05:42 AM

The problem with astrology is not in: does it work? because it does. Astrology is descriptive and based on statistics.

It is important to notice that even some official sciences are very descriptive in interpretations missing the clear phusical mechanisams of function. For instance medicine. Its statements are descriptive and based on statistics lacking the basic excplanations. For instance: males have testosteron and females estrogen. No doctor on earth can tell you phisical mechanisam of how testosteron phisically- (scientifically) influence male mind and caracter. And it does! We dont know why and how, but the effects are huge. And we dont doubt the effects because we dont know egzactlly how it works. Based on that testosteron thing we have wars, the shape of our culture, etc. which are the facts of our life.

This is an positivistic philosophy explanation of astrology mechanisms, which can be interpreted further more as: "we dont know how, and why astrology works, but we will some day, when our knowledge and science evolve more."

Thanks Tekton for your nice explanation... Many of us accept that the present day science is not adequate to explain how many things work. But for the scientific validation, it is not necessary that one has know how it works but whether it works or not in under controlled environment and repeatable or not. For example, we can take the same example of testrogen and estrogen harmones. If we take 100 human and divide in to three group randomly and give 1/3 with Blue coded (say testrogen) and 1/3 with white coded (say glucose) and 1/3 with green coded (say estrogen), we can find more than 90% people with Blue coded shows more hair growth and stiffer muscles etc etc , which are the few signs of testrogen. 90% people who had been given with white coded one shows no reaction. This kind of clinical trial is called closed placebo trials and is the simple way to prove things works.

But most of the astrologers take low probability coincidental incidences as proof and blow up such case as proof of astrology and ignore large percentage of failed incidences. To prove one thing is working or not, the statistics should be very clear first. Thats why I have been calling so called veterans here for similar placebo trial. I am not very keen to know how it works but whether it works or not. It is not for the sake of clearing doubt of one useless and irritating fellow like me but for the sake of humanity.

tekton

5th July 2007, 03:41 PM

There is a connection among test and growing hair - no doubts, but that is only an descriptive relation, and you dont know how testosteron phisically influence cells and what does it do to them. But the more important thing is how test influence man caracter. How I get exiced when i see apritty girl? Scientifficlly please!

Knowledge is wery wide thing which goes beyond science. It is not neccesary to have an scientific proof to accept some knowledge. There is lot of humane knowledge which is not scientificlly aprouved, which we accept. The main corp of it is in "sayings" among common people, which teach us what to do, and we accept it. From our grandmas, for instance. To take this to the edge: I dont need physical evidence to accept gods existance, because it exists in all human cultures. God may physically exist or may not, but its of no relevance, because its reprecusions on earthlu culture in all nations, ain all times, exists strongly and visibly.

Lets do experiment. please provide one room with 100 man aries, and in another 100 libras man. I bet that soon from the first room youll hear the sounds of soccer game, and from another the sound of some music... :)
of course it is difficult to provide this and to obtain controlable circumstances ... I already wrote that it is quite easy to guess someones sun sign after a while (guessing other persons signs, for freshmen students of astrology is very popular game :) ). I dont want to be an advocate of western astrology here, but i have to recomend an popular book "Sun signs" by Linda Goodmen. It is very good coffie table book for starters, where anubody can easilly find the ways to recognize sun sign differences .....

tekton

6th July 2007, 09:29 PM

nichiro, is there any key for 16.Feb girl?

Nichiro

6th July 2007, 09:34 PM

tekton,

what do you mean by "key"?
You mean solution to her problems?

Please let me know

Nichiro

tekton

6th July 2007, 11:01 PM

yes, some remedy that coul unleash
beneficual influence in her chart

tekton

9th July 2007, 06:29 PM

16-th Feb case.....
tropical chart for this chart is more-or-less simple for explanation because she has many inauspicious houses (6,8,12) that can easily produce obstacles. Lot of deb. planets as well.

But sidreal (vedic) chart is simply too powerful with its strong and benefic positions (JU own, MA, own, both in trikonas, aspected as well...... SO ME MO 7-th, RA-6-th, SA 10-th......) to produce that much problems.... and I cant see any strong cruical malefic influence in her chart. I dont fancy "percetage explanations" much, when in one chart you have clean strong positions. Also, strong and powerfull positions, ( 2 benefic trikonas; 4 planet in kendras), should at least give an person that has an grip on his/her life, and it looks to me that she has no controll at all.
The only explanation that i managed to see is that maybe her mercury is poisonious, and that ME is causing that much problems.
She had an "strong" life: traveled all around the world, master education (reienesance literature in some Chicago univercity), etc... But she waisted a milion $ , donated her Paris apartment to some stupid organisation, father and mother died rather tragically (ilness), she had an nervous brake down, from which she is getting out very slowlly.
According to this data, It looks to me that ME is very strong, being not malefic , but POISONIOUS! Ruining all other good things in chart. How you can see it her chart? If I didnt know her, I would not recognize this ME doing so bad.... ME is in 7-th house (which is good), with friends (SO, MO) , ruler of 11-th and 2-nd, !?!?!?!?!?
the only bad thing is SA aspect from 10-th ...............................?

Sorry if I wrote some stupid things, because I am very fresh in jyotish... also there is a language problem ....

tekton

tekton

9th July 2007, 06:32 PM

what could be an remedy for her?
mercury remedy? or saturn ???

Nichiro

11th July 2007, 09:35 AM

what could be an remedy for her?
mercury remedy? or saturn ???

tekton,

I am not sure if whatever remedial measures I suggest , will be followed by your friend.
I need an assurance from her in order to prescribe my remedies.

Nichiro

tekton

11th July 2007, 11:54 PM

good point!
but, theoretically speaking, what would be your course of thoughts, interpretng her chart.

nirosha sen

12th July 2007, 02:49 PM

Could you guys please, try to analyse those born on the 7th May 1992? Thanks! :D

solona

16th July 2007, 10:09 AM

Hi Nirosha,

Seeing you here after a LOOOOOONNNNNNGGGG break, welcome back :clap:

nirosha sen

16th July 2007, 04:59 PM

Hello again Hubbers!! :D Yup, been busy with my own exile into unchartered territories, Pa!!

But ahem, still no analysis for my question, huh? :cry:

Nichiro

18th July 2007, 05:14 PM

Nichiro

18th July 2007, 05:16 PM

Hello again Hubbers!! :D Yup, been busy with my own exile into unchartered territories, Pa!!

But ahem, still no analysis for my question, huh? :cry:

Nirosha sen,

Only complete birth details can help. Please post the details.

N

tekton

20th July 2007, 04:35 PM

good point!
but, theoretically speaking, what would be your course of thoughts, interpretng her chart.

tekton,
Theoratically , predictions should not be given. Neither should the remedies. Please ask your friend to make a request.
Nichiro

I can't, Im not in that kind of relation with her. Im not trying to get an free consultation here.... I was just trying to have an (academic) discusion with you..
Regards, Tekton

chevy

29th July 2007, 08:55 PM

Sudhaama

22nd August 2007, 05:34 AM

.
.Why even Some Wise-persons..MISERABLY FAIL.?"

SHANI (Saturn) is the Planet of FATE... EXTERNAL INFLUENCES, Obligations and BINDINGS.

..While BUDHA (Mercury) the Planet of Wisdom... is also the Planet of DECISION- MAKING.
So if anybody is found often to repeant on his WRONG DECISIONS of the past..

...in spite of better opportunities also parallelly available...

...we can invariably note the Budha (Mercury) badly placed or aspected in his Horoscope

Such a person can be precaucious more than others..

...and take decisions on every important affair.. in consultation with any of his Competent Advisers only.

And if any highly competent person... is placed as a Subordinate to a Sub-standard person...

...we can invariably find Sani.. badly placed or aspected.

Such a person also can be Successful in the LONG RUN... if he WORKS SINCERELY...

...TOWARDS THE SUCCESS of his Boss... Even if incompetent and UNDESERVING he may be.

Sani is a planet... who plays pre-dominantly on Haughty persons of Audacity, Over-Ego or Dictatorial...

...at the proper time when he comes to power... in the relevant case....

...like Sade-saathi, Ashtama-Sani or Ardhasshtama-Sani.

Ultimately he sets down to Normalcy... after getting unforeseen Circumstantial Blows after Blows persistently...

...driving out his Over-Ego

Besides... Pray Anjaneya, or Venkateswara...

..since specifically concerned... for SANI... as per Puranas...and...

...as OBSERVED PRACTICALLY too.
.

Sudhaama

14th November 2007, 09:45 PM

.
. Horoscope a LICENSE to become AUTOCRATIC.?

I have observed in practical Life... that in some cases...

... the Horoscopic predictions... miserably FAIL TOO.!! Why? How?

One case for Example.

One rich Man... only son born rich to a pious father at his age 50's...

...after several fervent prayers and rituals.. for about 30 years

The son held a VERY EXEMPLARY Raja Yoga Jathakam... a Grand lucky Horoscope... with several rare Yogas..

..enough to easily and categorically predict a TOTALLY SUCCESSFUL ROYAL LIFE...

...and that he will become A KING.. backed by unbeatable Happiness.

...richer and richer in all respects.. in course of Life.

It proved correct... by immensely affectionate parents being their only child late-born...

..that too a son to rule over their mass properties of sorts...

.. extremely beautiful and whole-heartedly loving wife

But did he truly enjoy life? ... No.

How far he made use of his rare INNATE LUCK... to his own best advantage.?

Pitiable.! How?

He did not properly attend to school and discontinued the studies at Elementary School stage itself....

...became very haughty and autocratic... and as a SADIST too.

He used to voluntarily approach the rich widows and say" See my dear madam, you are after all a lady.. that too uneducated. So anybody can cheat you.... and I pity you.

..So if you authorise me to manage your huge property, I can render a Humanitarian service to you... FREE OF COST"

Innocent ladies used to believe and hand over their properties.. through Power of Attorney.

But Alas.! All Hypocricy.!!

This Wicked crook used to swallow the property by playing cunning games.

This is one sort of example amongst his several ways of Jackal-schemes.

If the innocent victims approach the court of law... this Crook used to approach the Astrologers...

..and openly boast to all...

"Oh.. I will become ultimately successful.. You can see the Judgement will be rendered on so and so date"

That used to become correct...even the advance prediction on the date of judgement.

Poor widows innocent victims.. used to become paupers pitiably....ILLEGALLY...and UNJUSTLY too.!

He divorced his EXEMPLARY Good and wealthy wife in all respects...

Secured several Concubines... of cheap calibre.

Became a heavy DRUNKARD... with Bad association of low charactered friends circle.

Father of robust health... suddenly died out of Heart attack...

...denouncing his son... not to perform his Ceremonial death-rites.

Mother and Wife left him and lived together at one House...but away from this crook.

Even then he used to proudly claim... "You see, my mother will die on so and so date. Her properties will come to me...

...even contrary to her legal Will..."

To everybody's wonder the Astrolgical predictions used to become proved correct.

Similarly his rich wife's property too... were gained by him... after her death...

...by fighting against the Legal strength of his wife.

Even with all that... did he enjoy life.?

No.! .. because he claimed that he was born to live as a King and will always win over all others...

...according to his Yoga Jathakam.!

All went on correct... as per his Lucky Horoscope... upto his age 45..

..Then.... incredibly TURNED AGAINST.!!

Yes... Even his normal and legal rights... were miserably failing.

He ran to different leading Astrologers.. frequently. All of them unanimously said ...

"You need not fear... As per your Horoscope you will win over all the hurdles and problems...

...ultimately become more SUCCESSFUL and richer too...

...and will die as a Multi-millioner only... Yes UNDOUBTEDLY"

But ...in reality... such predictions FAILED TOTALLY... and MISERABLY.

All his enormous wealth... were lost to Concubines and Wicked Friends.

He became heavily sick with contageous diseases...UNCOUNTABLY.!

At least did he die as a Rich Man... conforming to His Astrological predictions?

No.No... He passed his last chapter of life... Eight years... as a Beggar.!

..His dead body was carried by the Municipal Dirt Garbage Cart

...and was cremated as an Orphan.!!

...Totally CONTRARY to Horoscope predictions.!!..

Yes. ASTROLOGY FAILED in this case.!!!
.

thilak4life

15th November 2007, 04:31 PM

i have posted the sani peyarchi for this year... check it out.. ppl.. and yessss... astrology.. i have deeepp faith in vedic astro.. but the prob is some quacks tell nonsense and spoil da authenticity of the science

Do you mean those who distort it? Or, those who reject it off as pseudo-science?

thilak4life

15th November 2007, 04:33 PM

Oh sorry, I read your post again, I'm sure you meant those who distort it..

c4ramesh

15th November 2007, 04:52 PM

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i have posted the sani peyarchi for this year... check it out.. ppl.. and yessss... astrology.. i have deeepp faith in vedic astro.. but the prob is some quacks tell nonsense and spoil da authenticity of the science

Do you mean those who distort it? Or, those who reject it off as pseudo-science?

Science? – how on earth is it science?

1.Have the tenants/claims of astrology been peer reviewed by scientists?

2.Have the claims undergone double blind testing?

3.Have any paper been published in reputed science journals about it?

4.And a trivial yet important question is whether the tenants of astrology are subject changes or correction or can it be rendered obsolete by any new [tested] scientific findings?

If the answers to these questions are No, I would advice people to rather stop calling it science. And please stop giving it undeserved credibility by doing so.
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thilak4life

15th November 2007, 05:10 PM

Ramesh, I was about to say that. That's why I termed it as a "Pseudo-Science", in any case, you wouldn't get to-the-point replies here, so what's the point? Forget it..

c4ramesh

15th November 2007, 05:23 PM

Sudhaama

15th November 2007, 06:17 PM

.
. Believers WELCOME.!!. Non-believers KEEP OFF Please.!

Dear Friends,

We, the Commonmen, the Clients of Astrology.. believe this GREAT INDIAN TREASURE of OCCULT SCIENCE...

..very useful in practice for our Meaningful Life...

...by advance precaution and Guidance...

..as practically observed and applied..

..and we are happy with it.

We, especially myself are fully convinced on this factor.. true to the Topic Thread wordings here-above.

I am not benefitted by the gain of Propoganda for Astrology... because neither I am an Astrologer consultant...

...nor in anyway a commercial beneficiary...

..other than just a CLIENT... for the past about Six decades.

If anyone of you are OPEN-MINDED enough to know the truth and worth of this Vedic Science...

.. and so curious to know more... IN YOUR OWN INTERESTS...

..are WELCOME... to read the past postings...

..quite Valuable for Successful and Happy Life by means of Typical Document of Life-Warning and Guidance for everybody in a unique manner.

Contrarily, if any of you do not want to believe so..

..Well.. You need not believe.

Please DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME AND ENERGY...

..as well as ours, the Believers...

... by Criticising this Sacred Science...

..and HURTING our feelings anymore.

Nobody advocates nor insists you to believe it. You need not. So Please keep off.

..And please allow us, to carry on in our own way of Faith...

... the Indian Vedic Values.
.

thilak4life

15th November 2007, 06:30 PM

Ramesh, I was about to say that. That's why I termed it as a "Pseudo-Science", in any case, you wouldn't get to-the-point replies here, so what's the point? Forget it..

Well, right... :lol:

Have you read The Demon Haunted World by Carl Sagan? Some people really need to read one...

Absolutely, if they only believe in themselves, I guess, this very thing pushes them to 'believe' in whatever they want to. Believers WELCOME.!!. Non-believers KEEP OFF Please.!

Since it's just a matter of 'belief', it doesn't qualify as 'science', where it's built by evidence and reason. So, End of story..

c4ramesh

15th November 2007, 06:48 PM

[tscii:267f88beab]Respected Sudhaama,

I could go on to point out the contradictions in your post. But, as you had pointed out questioning your faith is not something you like nor do you encourage it [talk about being open minded]. Sarcasm apart, my humble request is to stop calling astrology a science. Science simply doesn't work that way. Science encourages questioning, there is no question that can be called a dumb one in science, even if it means questioning the very roots of today’s scientific facts & the way science works.

I have no problems with this thread per se, but I certainly do have problems with some calling astrology a science.

Faith, is believing w/o proofs & science, to the contrary is based purely on evidence & proofs. Faith and science don't go hand in hand. I have no qualms in keeping off this thread but please do stop calling it [astrology] science, if can’t meet the requirements for being called so. I simply don’t understand the logic behind asking us to keep off the thread claiming that we hurt your feelings, but show complete disregards to the legitimate feelings of others. Is it that, only believers have feelings and disbelievers don’t have one?

Thanks for reading.

[/tscii:267f88beab]

Sudhaama

15th November 2007, 09:26 PM

[tscii:89cc8353f3]Respected Sudhaama,

I could go on to point out the contradictions in your post. But, as you had pointed out questioning your faith is not something you like nor do you encourage it [talk about being open minded]. Sarcasm apart, my humble request is to stop calling astrology a science. Science simply doesn't work that way. Science encourages questioning, there is no question that can be called a dumb one in science, even if it means questioning the very roots of today’s scientific facts & the way science works.

I have no problems with this thread per se, but I certainly do have problems with some calling astrology a science.

Faith, is believing w/o proofs & science, to the contrary is based purely on evidence & proofs. Faith and science don't go hand in hand. I have no qualms in keeping off this thread but please do stop calling it [astrology] science, if can’t meet the requirements for being called so. I simply don’t understand the logic behind asking us to keep off the thread claiming that we hurt your feelings, but show complete disregards to the legitimate feelings of others. Is it that, only believers have feelings and disbelievers don’t have one?

Thanks for reading.[/tscii:89cc8353f3]

Dear ANTAGONISTS Friends,

You are at Liberty to have any Conclusion Pro or Anti on this GREAT TREASURE of Knowledge intended FOR HUMANITY...

...in your own interests... on your Own way and Reasonong.

I do not Question... nor Decry.

But please do not come in our way..

Yes. I am well convinced that ASTROLOGY IS AN OCCULT SCIENCE...

..as declared by the Internationally Authentic Forecaster... Mr CHEIRO my Guru.

I need not convince others.. especially those Antagonists...who have decided to differ and protest.

How and why I am convinced... is a reserved Private matter... confined to my personal bounds.

However I do not discourage you from your Freedom of personal conclusions, belief and discussions of your own choice and aspect.

For such varied discussions on this single Subject ASTROLOGY...

..there exists Three other Threads in our Forum here...

... already discussing on different Aspects...

..one of which is the same angle of Thought...

...Whether Astrology is a Science or Not?..

You are welcome to discuss in that relevant Thread...

...initiated by Mr. Rohit... who is like-minded with you Antagonists.

..and NOT HERE ANYMORE HERE Please..

..since the Scope and Purview of this Thread is totally different...

Or else you can open a New Thread... whatever you may feel proper..

...and discuss there... at your own free will...

...Complying with the Regulations of our Hub...a Global Forum...
.

c4ramesh

15th November 2007, 09:53 PM

[tscii:b1275d1e89]Respected Sudhaama,

I could go on to point out the contradictions in your post. But, as you had pointed out questioning your faith is not something you like nor do you encourage it [talk about being open minded]. Sarcasm apart, my humble request is to stop calling astrology a science. Science simply doesn't work that way. Science encourages questioning, there is no question that can be called a dumb one in science, even if it means questioning the very roots of today’s scientific facts & the way science works.

I have no problems with this thread per se, but I certainly do have problems with some calling astrology a science.

Faith, is believing w/o proofs & science, to the contrary is based purely on evidence & proofs. Faith and science don't go hand in hand. I have no qualms in keeping off this thread but please do stop calling it [astrology] science, if can’t meet the requirements for being called so. I simply don’t understand the logic behind asking us to keep off the thread claiming that we hurt your feelings, but show complete disregards to the legitimate feelings of others. Is it that, only believers have feelings and disbelievers don’t have one?

Thanks for reading.[/tscii:b1275d1e89]

Dear ANTAGONISTS Friends,

You are at Liberty to have any Conclusion Pro or Anti on this GREAT TREASURE of Knowledge intended FOR HUMANITY...

...in your own interests... on your Own way and Reasonong.

I do not Question... nor Decry.

But please do not come in our way..

Yes. I am well convinced that ASTROLOGY IS AN OCCULT SCIENCE...

..as declared by the Internationally Authentic Forecaster... Mr CHEIRO my Guru.

I need not convince others.. especially those Antagonists...who have decided to differ and protest.

How and why I am convinced... is a reserved Private matter... confined to my personal bounds.

However I do not discourage you from your Freedom of personal conclusions, belief and discussions of your own choice and aspect.

For such varied discussions on this single Subject ASTROLOGY...

..there exists Three other Threads in our Forum here...

... already discussing on different Aspects...

..one of which is the same angle of Thought...

...Whether Astrology is a Science or Not?..

You are welcome to discuss in that relevant Thread...

...initiated by Mr. Rohit... who is like-minded with you Antagonists.

..and NOT HERE ANYMORE HERE Please..

..since the Scope and Purview of this Thread is totally different...

Or else you can open a New Thread... whatever you may feel proper..

...and discuss there... at your own free will...

...Complying with the Regulations of our Hub...a Global Forum...
.

Calling it faith, doesn't leave room for any discussion. Science is the opposite of faith. So thank you for understanding. Good luck and have a nice day.. :D

Sudhaama

15th November 2007, 10:16 PM

.
Current Deeds Outcome.. SUPERSEDES at One Stage.!!.
.

.
. Horoscope a LICENSE to become AUTOCRATIC.?

I have observed in practical Life... that in some cases...

... the Horoscopic predictions... miserably FAIL TOO.!! Why? How?

One case for Example.

One rich Man... only son born rich to a pious father at his age 50's...

...after several fervent prayers and rituals.. for about 30 years

The son held a VERY EXEMPLARY Raja Yoga Jathakam... a Grand lucky Horoscope... with several rare Yogas..

..enough to easily and categorically predict a TOTALLY SUCCESSFUL ROYAL LIFE...

...and that he will become A KING.. backed by unbeatable Happiness.

...richer and richer in all respects.. in course of Life.

It proved correct... by immensely affectionate parents being their only child late-born...

..that too a son to rule over their mass properties of sorts...

.. extremely beautiful and whole-heartedly loving wife

But did he truly enjoy life? ... No.

How far he made use of his rare INNATE LUCK... to his own best advantage.?

Pitiable.! How?

He did not properly attend to school and discontinued the studies at Elementary School stage itself....

...became very haughty and autocratic... and as a SADIST too.

He used to voluntarily approach the rich widows and say" See my dear madam, you are after all a lady.. that too uneducated. So anybody can cheat you.... and I pity you.

..So if you authorise me to manage your huge property, I can render a Humanitarian service to you... FREE OF COST"

Innocent ladies used to believe and hand over their properties.. through Power of Attorney.

But Alas.! All Hypocricy.!!

This Wicked crook used to swallow the property by playing cunning games.

This is one sort of example amongst his several ways of Jackal-schemes.

If the innocent victims approach the court of law... this Crook used to approach the Astrologers...

..and openly boast to all...

"Oh.. I will become ultimately successful.. You can see the Judgement will be rendered on so and so date"

That used to become correct...even the advance prediction on the date of judgement.

Poor widows innocent victims.. used to become paupers pitiably....ILLEGALLY...and UNJUSTLY too.!

He divorced his EXEMPLARY Good and wealthy wife in all respects...

Secured several Concubines... of cheap calibre.

Became a heavy DRUNKARD... with Bad association of low charactered friends circle.

Father of robust health... suddenly died out of Heart attack...

...denouncing his son... not to perform his Ceremonial death-rites.

Mother and Wife left him and lived together at one House...but away from this crook.

Even then he used to proudly claim... "You see, my mother will die on so and so date. Her properties will come to me...

...even contrary to her legal Will..."

To everybody's wonder the Astrolgical predictions used to become proved correct.

Similarly his rich wife's property too... were gained by him... after her death...

...by fighting against the Legal strength of his wife.

Even with all that... did he enjoy life.?

No.! .. because he claimed that he was born to live as a King and will always win over all others...

...according to his Yoga Jathakam.!

All went on correct... as per his Lucky Horoscope... upto his age 45..

..Then.... incredibly TURNED AGAINST.!!

Yes... Even his normal and legal rights... were miserably failing.

He ran to different leading Astrologers.. frequently. All of them unanimously said ...

"You need not fear... As per your Horoscope you will win over all the hurdles and problems...

...ultimately become more SUCCESSFUL and richer too...

...and will die as a Multi-millioner only... Yes UNDOUBTEDLY"

But ...in reality... such predictions FAILED TOTALLY... and MISERABLY.

All his enormous wealth... were lost to Concubines and Wicked Friends.

He became heavily sick with contageous diseases...UNCOUNTABLY.!

At least did he die as a Rich Man... conforming to His Astrological predictions?

No.No... He passed his last chapter of life... Eight years... as a Beggar.!

..His dead body was carried by the Municipal Dirt Garbage Cart

...and was cremated as an Orphan.!!

...Totally CONTRARY to Horoscope predictions.!!..

Yes. ASTROLOGY FAILED in this case.!!!
.

chevy

17th November 2007, 06:24 PM

Nichiro

21st November 2007, 02:39 AM

Sri Sudhaama wrote,

"Yes. ASTROLOGY FAILED in this case.!!! |

I think it is the Astrologer who failed and not Astrology.

Sudhaama

4th December 2007, 12:59 AM

.
.Why Astrology fails in some cases.. beyond certain stage.?

Sri Sudhaama wrote,

"Yes. ASTROLOGY FAILED in this case.!!! |

I think it is the Astrologer who failed and not Astrology.

Dear Nichiro,

I doubt... perhaps you have just browsed on my detailed posting...

..where I have analytically narrated... how Astrology came true.. cent per cent...

...UPTO CERTAIN STAGE of Life.. exclusively in THIS CASE...

,,.where the Holder took light on Astrology... taking it as granted...

..and that he had every freedom to commit even worst crimes...

..taking shelter on his Horoscope Strength...

Which WRONG NOTION... has been established by the Law of God's Doctrine of Righteousness.

So all his Astrological strength.. overpowered the outcome of his misdeeds upto cerain stage...

..and then bounced back...

..because HOROSCOPE IS NOT A LICENSE to commit any Sin by audacity.

I wonder you being an Astrological Scholar... instead of welcoming my practical data of Factual Life...

..which can be useful for your further Research on Astrology..

You are just CONDEMING my authentic news...

...on which all the concerned Astrologers... agreed that despite their sincere later predictions...

It has failed because of Over-Sins committed in this birth... overpowering the Horoscopic might... based on previous births outcome.

The past predictions on the same Horoscope proved correct until one stage previously...

...but not when the crimes exceeded beyond tolerable limit by the innocent victims.

On this I reported then to Mr. B.V.Raman the Chief Editor of ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZINE OF INDIA...Bangalore.

He took up this Research subject in the Annual Issue of the Magazine... by a team of Astrological Scholars...

..who quoted several such cases... where the Horoscopic predictions have failed beyond certain stage in practical life...

..either POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE...commensurate with ones deeds in the present birth.

And he had quoted Varahamihira Slokam... which means that Astrological predictions of previous births...

..will work in conjunction with the outcome of current birth deeds..
.. as one conducts himself...

...either as the worst Sinner or contrary as the best emulative Gentleman of Virtuous life currently.

So to say... if one conducts himself / herself good enough towards Dharma/ Righteousness...

..it definitely mitigates the Onslaughts of Horoscopic ill-outcome of previous birth.

Contrarily... if one is born with a Lucky Horoscope..

..but behaves as the worst criminal towards others..

Astrology does not protect or support or UNDULY DEFEND such WORST SINNERS for ever...

...but only until his past Good account is cleared...

..by means of UNDUE LUCK... running counter to his grave Sinful deeds in the current birth..

That too only upto certain stage in current life.

Then it bounces back.. true to his values in the current birth.

..irrespective of the SAME HOROSCOPE... Contrary to Reality.
.

Sudhaama

29th April 2008, 08:56 PM

.
. How Astrology HELPS in LIFE for All.!

Astrology is the developed Sasthra on the Gospel of Vedas... made by GOD...

..to safeguard Mankind by their own Precautionary and Preventive measures in Day-to day Life. How.?

For example... if in one's Horoscope... the Angaraka (Mars) is placed in Lagna..

..it indicates his/her Complex propensities of DYNAMISM coupled with PRACTICAL APPROACH on Life...

..alongside RASHNESS in taking Decisions or Impressions on Situations and Persons.

So it means... he is innate with both the POSITIVE and NEGATIVE rare potentialities to confront all odds and challenges in Life...

... but must be careful and avoid taking sudden decisions on any important matter...

..should consider other parallel options too, on the same predicament plight and plan...

..and if necessary consult with some other persons close and trustworthy.

Similarly he must not form any impression... nor doubt on anybody easily or hastily..

...even though his wisdom may present him an adequate picture in his opinion.

By means of his such safeguard measures... he can be the LEADING WINNER anywhere... on any tasks..

...excelling his competitive THEORETICIANS.. in any Country and Era...

..under any Challenging situations... however great and tough it may be....

...ultimately ensuring remarkable and SURE SUCCESS.!!!
.

Prabo

1st June 2008, 01:44 AM

Yaravathu 01/06/1980 (9A.M) poranthavangaluku life eppadi irrukumnu sollungapa :roll:

Sudhaama

1st June 2008, 01:56 AM

.

Yaravathu 01/06/1980 (9A.M) poranthavangaluku life eppadi irrukumnu sollungapa :roll:

Engae.? Yendha Oorilae.?...

..Adhan Longitude mukkiyam... Oorai sonnaal poadhum.
.

Prabo

1st June 2008, 03:44 PM

.

Yaravathu 01/06/1980 (9A.M) poranthavangaluku life eppadi irrukumnu sollungapa :roll:

Engae.? Yendha Oorilae.?...

..Adhan Longitude mukkiyam... Oorai sonnaal poadhum.
.

Singara Chennai 8-)
U still want to be more precise abt the place :?:

Sudhaama

13th January 2009, 12:06 AM

.
.Astrology HELPS a lot... as Practical LIFE-GUIDANCE.!

Every Horoscope conveys an admixture of Good and Bad News.

..So we must understand and get guided for our Future... being a Divine-Message.!

..for which purpose Astrology is intended for Mankind.!

Yes. Horoscopes are NOT THE VERDICT OF FATE.!

..But Just a BALANCE SHEET of Sins and Virtues... caused earned during previous births...

...CARRIED OVER... to START WITH..

...and PLAN FOR THE CURRENT BIRTH...

...intended to take the Best Advantage of FORE-WARNINGS & Treasure-stock...

...HIDDEN within us... adorned to our Soul.

Let us take One Example.

Planet MARS (Chevvaay) in Lagna.!

If Mars (Angaraka / Chevvaay) is placed at Lagna... in your Horoscope?

It conveys Two main messages... broadly speaking.

(1) Good News: You are a PRACTICAL PERSON... Dynamic... Self-Dependant... Bold enough to CONFRONT any and all sorts of Odds and impediments in Life...

...proprtionate to its Placement & Self-might in your Horoscope.. as well as the other Panetary factors relevent.

(2) Warning:.. By innate Propensity.. sometimes You may take HASTY decisions... or RASH approach...

..which may lead you to REPEANT later.

So you MUST not take sudden decisions or on your own on IMPORTANT AFFAIRS...

...but SHARE your problems with others whom you TRUST personally... as Your TRUE WELL-WISHERS...

..who must be capable enough to convince you... by Reasoning on Pros & Cons.

In case of important Life-Decisions.. like selecting your Marriage Life-partner...

...or facing any Ugly turn by any unforeseen sudden Onslaught event...

..or Carreer-selection... or ... involvement with others as Partner in some form...

..You must consult the EXPERTS in the concerned field...

..and then take your own decision...

...with Your Balanced Mind coupled with Wisdom.

You can be HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL in Life.. Competing with all others.!

..Achieving Your Goal.. getting your AMBITIONS FULFILLED.!
.

Sudhaama

28th February 2010, 09:22 PM

.

Why Horoscope predictions MISERABLY FAIL at times in Some cases.?

Example, One popular Political party of Tamilnadu in Parliament Election.?

....and further too... in All Bye Elections.?.... SEVERELY Beaten down ??...!!!

Why even the LEADING ASTROLOGERS' Predictions failed.?

Non-Political Common Astrological Experts Answer for this Wise Question.?.?

Yes. Such Common Astrologers reply...

Astrology is a RELIGIOUS SCIENCE.... which can never fail.

But it stipulates one important factor in this context.

Astrological prediction is based on ones Horoscope... which is a Chart of BALANCE-SHEET on Past Karmas of the relevent person....

...i.e. the Outcome of the Past deeds... Good and Bad in the previous Births.

Rather Horoscope is the Opening Balance and Commitments of the person...

....waiting IN STORE-STOCK to be implemented during the present birth.

At the same time... the effects of the CURRENT BIRTH Deeds cannot be ignored...

...which also works and plays its PARALLEL ROLE... while the previous births outcome is implemented by Ones Fate.

However FATE CAN BE OVERCOME... and its effects countered and mitigated by Ones own POSITIVE ENDEAVOUR through Good deeds.

Similarly by means of CRIMINAL DEEDS... the Goodness of Ones previous birth Assets can be TURNED NEGATIVE or even NULLIFIED

So in this case of the relevent Political party... it is the fault of neither Astrology... nor the Astrologers who had predicted favourably prior to Election...

...but the MISERABLE AFTER-EFFECTS of....

....the UNPARDONABLE SINS and Misdeeds of its Leader... in the CURRENT BIRTH..!

.... God's VERDICT... ECHOED vociferously.!

....SUPERSEDING all other factors.!!!

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PARAMASHIVAN

16th March 2010, 04:44 PM

I will Start mine, Dhanus rasi - Sagitarius, here are the characteristics

Sagitarius (November 22 - December 21)

* philosophy, idealism, religion, spiritual growth
* optimism, positive outlook, forward planning
* travel, freedom of movement, the outdoors
* honesty, justice, morality
* imagination, aspirations, open-mindedness
* wit, intellect, flashes of intuition
* generosity, pleasure, romance

Elemental Quality

Sagittarius is the mutable fire sign of the zodiac. It can be likened to the stars, a thousand lighted candles, the sparks rising from a rapidly speading grass fire, or the reflectors making the route along the center of a major road.

Fire changes substances and Sagittarians have a knack of transforming negative situations with their optimism. Mutable means adaptable. Sagittarians can adapt to almost any situation, whether earthly or spiritual

Spiritual Goal

To learn to use their talents to guide others.

The Sagittarian Personality

These are the general personality traits found in people who are typical of Sagittarius. An unhappy or frustrated Sagittarius may display some of the not-so-attractive traits.

Positive

Frank and open
Optimistic
honest and fair-minded
Spiritual
Philiosphical
Holds no grudges
Happy go lucky
Generous
Good hearted
Great sense of humour
says exactly what the person thinks to a point of being rude as well

Negatives

restlessness (always thinking mind)
do not like to be controlled
takes too much risks in life
careless
Impatient
Enjoys danger
can not sit in one place

Secret Sagittarius

Inside anyone who has strong Sagittarian influences is a person who wants to be free. Possessive partners, conservative thinkers, and bureaucrats with whom Sagittarius comes into contact should be aware of this.

No matter who or what the cause, the Sagittarian who is held back in life, in love, or in opportunity for spiritual growth will be unhappy, even though he or she will keep smiling through all adversities.

Like the centaur, one of the Sagittarian symbols, the Sagittarian personality exercises conflict between mind and body. The Sagittarian purpose is to overcome this conflict so that they may guide others.

The Sagittarian Look

People who exhibit the physical characteristics distinctive of the sign of Sagittarius look strong and active. They are often taller than average and have handsome faces. Since a typical Sagittarius is an optimist, the face often appears about to break into a smile -- and regularly does.

Physical Appearance
* Body: strongly built and energetic; movement is normally quick, although not always graceful.

* Head: large, well-shaped skull with a high, broad forehead.

* Uses hands and arms to make broad, sweeping gestures.

* Bright, intelligent, and sparkling eyes which often twinkle with good humor.

* Either tall and athletic in appearance, or shorter with a sturdier body. Excess weight can be a problem, as Sagittarius is ruled by expansive, jovial, life-loving Jupiter.

The Sagittarius Male

If a man behaves in a way typical of the personality associated with the zodiac sign of Sagittarius, he will have a tendency toward the characteristics listed below, unless there are influences in his personal birthchart that are stronger than that of his Sagittarius sun sign.

It would be good, if every one shares the opinions on horoscopes.

padmanabha

16th March 2010, 06:25 PM

DATE OF BIRTH 18TH MARCH 1962

TIME OF BIRTH -MORNING 2 AM
STAR -MAKAM
PLACE OF BIRTH -THIRUVANANTHAPURAM

HOROSCOPE EPPADI?

PARAMASHIVAN

16th March 2010, 07:23 PM

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DATE OF BIRTH 18TH MARCH 1962

TIME OF BIRTH -MORNING 2 AM
STAR -MAKAM
PLACE OF BIRTH -THIRUVANANTHAPURAM

HOROSCOPE EPPADI?

Hi here goes

Pisces Astrology February 19 - March 20

Pisces Strength Keywords:
- Compassionate
- Adaptable
- Accepting
- Devoted
- Imaginative

Pisces Weakness Keywords:
- Oversensitive
- Indecisive
- Self-pitying
- Lazy
- Escapist

Pisces and Independence:

Pisces needs a dominant partner of role model in their life or they will very easily fall into a pit of self-pity and self-undoing. When they are independent and inspired by life's events, their creativity comes shining through but they are unable to be on their own for long before they start dreaming in their imaginary world of happy people and happy endings. They need other people to keep them grounded and on the right track.

Pisces and Friendship:

Pisces will go out of their way to help a friend. They are extremely sensitive and loyal. They will take a friend's problem and make it their own and suffer with them. This is the weak spot of Pisces but any friend of this zodiac sign should know that although they are attracted to people with severe problems who desperately need help, this actually does more harm them good. Even though Pisces will offer to make everything right, do not allow them to take on all your problems because they will lose their identity in your situation. They need a strong positive friend to make them strong. Pisces like adventure, new situation and social events. A Pisces friend will always have something exciting in mind and it is a very fulfilling, long lasting friendship.

Pisces and Business:

Pisces does not take well to a position of leadership or high business person, they are too sensitive and lacking in self-discipline and lacking self-confidence for a positions such as that. What they are good at is is writing, acting, poetry, or being musicians. Pisces are excellent at anything that tugs at the heart strings and mystical/spiritual. They are extremely creative and can use their skills of creativity and their understanding of people to inspire others. Unfortunately, most Pisces take the easy way out in life and never attain the degree of fame that they possibly could, they have to stop self-doubting themselves because they are capable of being good role models and leaders to others, people do look up to them.

Pisces and Temperament:

The Pisces personality is hard to pin down, it is very mysterious and elusive. Pisces are molded by their surroundings, they incorporate their experiences and surroundings into themselves. They have extreme compassion and they feel the pain of others. If something is wrong in the world that affects them, it affects them deeply, they take it to heart and feel extreme feelings regarding the matter. When they are happy, they are extremely happy and when they are sad, they are extremely depressed.

Pisces Deep Inside:

Pisces have an intuitive and psychic ability more then any other zodiac signs. They trust their gut feelings and if they do not, they quickly learn to because they realize that their hunches are usually correct. Pisces downfall is their sensitivity and their inability to reject another person. They do not like rejection and they try to treat others the way they want to be treated so they will rarely say no to a person for fear of hurting their feelings. They will help another person with their problems and like to do so because making others feel good in turn makes them feel good. Pisces is the zodiac sign of self-undoing. People born under this zodiac sign are not susceptible to bad luck and unfortunate events, they bring them on themselves by overindulging, laziness and a knack for picking poorly suited partners and friends. They want people in their life who stir their emotions because this helps them to practice emotional stability. The inner conflict of Pisces is extremes of temperament and conflicting emotions. They are trying to pinpoint themselves on the real world while their spiritual world can cloud their vision, they will try to escape or avoid a situation instead of confronting it. Pisces eternal struggle is to learn to use their powers and their imagination in a positive, productive way and vying for emotional stability by not giving away their emotions to everyone else, they need to help themselves.

Pisces in a Nutshell:

Pisces is the sign of mysticism, mystery and the spiritual unknown. Pisces live in two worlds, the real world and the spiritual or mystical world where they interpret what they see into what they want. They do this to avoid all the realities of pain and suffering in the world. They have extremes of emotions and feel both good and bad intensively. Pisces have formidable intuitive ability. Most Pisces are somehow involved with occult or spiritualism. Pisces are very good at understanding people for they have the ability to delve into the psyche and see behind a person's motivations. Pisces are prone to drug addiction and indulging lifestyles because of their eternal search for themselves and their fear of confrontation and having to change a situation, also they justify drug use by allowing it to get closer with their 'spiritual selves'. Once they aware this is why they are doing it, it will be easier to kick the habit. Pisces are not the pushovers that they may seem, in fact they have strength of character and will stand up for what they believe in and and they can do hard work for something they believe in. They can be very lazy but only in matters that they do not care about. Pisces is the most sensitive of all zodiac signs.
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NOV

16th March 2010, 07:27 PM

[tscii:5f471c5afb][/tscii:5f471c5afb]:sigh2: how may times have I asked you to put the source! :roll:

The above analysis is from: http://zodiac-signs-astrology.com/zodiac-signs/pisces.htm

and right at the bottom it states...

© Copyright 2006 Zodiac-Signs-Astrology.com

Sudhaama

16th March 2010, 07:51 PM

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All Babies born in... Same Hospital during one and the Same period...

...Belong to ONE AND THE SAME RASI... UNIFORMLY.?

Based on the DATE OF BIRTH alone... Can it be TRUE TO THE PURPOSE of Astrology.?

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My Dear PARAMASHIVA,

On what ground... you came to a conclusion... that you belong to SAGITTAREOUS / DHANUSU Rasi.?

..Just based on date of birth.?

So according to your belief... all the Babies born in a Hospital during one and the same period...

...Belong to ONE AND THE SAME RASI... UNIFORMLY.?

....even it be the SAME DAY.?

Is it credible in the PRACTICAL SENSE.?

You know... even the Twins born to the same Parents... born on the same day... same Hospital...

..we practically have noted to be Different by Fate, Different by Qualities and Propensities... Different by Tastes and Outlook-- Different in ONE AND ALL OTHER RESPECTS...

...EXCEPT the Look... of Same Resemblence or Similarity.

...invariably in several cases...far and wide too... all over the World...

So in other cases you can very well imagine... how Two persons born within a specific duration...

....so to mean... Based on the DATE OF BIRTH alone...

..can be TRUE TO THE PURPOSE of Astrology...

...an OCCULT-SCIENCE based on Soul-concept.

In brief, I mean the basis you have taken up is the Western countries Astrology..

...whch is based on just the Date of Birth.

You can practically satisfy yourself by comparing your Qualities and Propensities with another person of same Rasi as per your such a Basis.

It is called as the EQYPTIAN ASTROLOGY.

...the predictions based on it have been practically found to be--- MOSTLY MISLEADING... and SELF-CONTRADICTORY too.!

Whereas the whole world admires INDIAN ASTROLOGY...

...which is based on the minutest degree of TIME and PLACE OF BIRTH.

Date and Day are reckoned from the TIME OF SUNRISE... at the place of Birth.

..Whereas as per Western Astrology (Eqyptian system)...

...the Date and Day are reckoned from the Zero Hour of Midnight

...COMPLICATING with the Place of Birth.!... according to Western Astrology.!

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PARAMASHIVAN

16th March 2010, 08:00 PM

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PARAMASHIVAN

16th March 2010, 08:02 PM

[tscii:b4d795906f][/tscii:b4d795906f]:sigh2: how may times have I asked you to put the source! :roll:

The above analysis is from: http://zodiac-signs-astrology.com/zodiac-signs/pisces.htm

and right at the bottom it states...

© Copyright 2006 Zodiac-Signs-Astrology.com

yah neenga pesama cyber police illa intepol la poi vela seithirukanaum

:sigh2: :banghead:

Sudhaama

16th March 2010, 09:05 PM

.

Yes. Well-said.!

[tscii:aa1621978c][/tscii:aa1621978c]:sigh2: how may times have I asked you to put the source! :roll:

The above analysis is from: http://zodiac-signs-astrology.com/zodiac-signs/pisces.htm

and right at the bottom it states...

© Copyright 2006 Zodiac-Signs-Astrology.com

yah neenga pesama cyber police illa intepol la poi vela seithirukanaum

:sigh2: :banghead:

Yes. Our Hub Moderators are OUR POLICEMEN..

...Intended to Not only protect the interests of the Hub Forum Organisation...

...but also the CONCURRENT POLICE.. to safeguard We the Viewer Members interests too...

...saving us from unnecessary DIVERSIONS, DEVIATIONS, PERVERSIONS. MISUSE and undue IRRITATIONS plus WASTE of our Precious Time.

One of the BEST-PERFORMERS of such a DELICATE and Responsible duty... IMPARTIALLY...

...Maintaining the WELL-BALANCE between the Administration and Users...

...is OUR GOOD FRIEND.... NOV.

I say this--- on my CLOSE OBSERVATION for the Past about SEVEN YEARS of my Membership of this Hub Forum.

Thanks... BEST WISHES.!

. Sudhaama.

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Sudhaama

13th September 2010, 08:04 PM

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MANMOHAN SINGH, P.M. will be REPLACED...

...Probably in 2011.

One Astrologer's Prediction

http://tamil.webdunia.com/religion/astrology/quesionanswer/1009/09/1100909045_1.htm

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aanaa

15th September 2010, 08:38 PM

Planet MARS (Chevvaay) in Lagna.!

If Mars (Angaraka / Chevvaay) is placed at Lagna... in your Horoscope?

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Thought ( my mistake)

You are going to give every lagna in detail of their 12s position.

warm regards

Sudhaama

16th September 2010, 12:08 AM

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Amongst most People in TO-DAY’s WORLD:

--Two Categories of POVERTY.!

POORLY RICH--- RICHLY POOR.

Even with AFFLUENCE by FINANCIAL RICHNESS by Wealth.!

MAADI-VEETTU AEZHAI. (மாடி-வீட்டு ஏழை)!

--- PITIABLY--- WORSE than the Other Category.! ----

--- So called KUDISAI-VEETTU AEZHAI (குடிசை-வீட்டு ஏழை).!

Maadi-Veettu Aezhai.?

For example an AFFLUENT Man having several PRETTY DAMSELs as BED-MATE Wives and Concubines,

---but if he is IMPOTENT.!

Why Emperor Krishnadeva-raya laid down a Law for all his People---

--- that every citizen must wear a CORAL GEM (Pavalham / பவளம்) on the body,

---especially for Women, a MUST along with their Thaali.!!!. ???

Planet MARS (Chevvaay) in Lagna.!

If Mars (Angaraka / Chevvaay) is placed at Lagna... in your Horoscope?

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Thought ( my mistake)

You are going to give every lagna in detail of their 12s position.

warm regards

My Dear “aana”

Thanks.

I highly hoped and anticipated the participation of Astrologers if any amongst our Hubbers.

--- to clarify to us, by getting the due Answers from our Scriptures on several valid questions, which naturally arise---

---on this Rich Subject of our Glorious Indian Heritage, as applicable for the Contemporary age of SCIENTIFIC ERA.

Sorry, I am disappointed.

Dear “aana”, I will be thankful if you can get the Answers for YOUR QUESTIONS--- from any RELIABLE Astrologer and post here.

However, I don’t want to disappoint you. And so, I will reply only to the Question, I have raised, as you have quoted above.

---since I am WELL-CONVINCED of the PRACTICAL TRUTH of this OCCULT-SCIENCE.!

Earthly Planet MARS.

For fetching a MEANINGFUL LIFE of Worth on Earth. the Top-most factor is the Lagnaadhipathi ---

--- the Owner Planet of Lagna (Ascendant)

-- alongside the Status of LAGNA, including the Planets there.

Even if a person’s horoscope is EXCEPTIONALLY GOOD in other respects --- but if the Lagnaadhipathi is badly placed---

--- he will be a POOR / AEZHAI ( ஏழை) in some BASIC SENSE.

--- may not be a KUDISAI-VEETTU AEZHAI (குடிசை-வீட்டு ஏழை) (Hut-dwelling Poor)

---but will indeed be a MAADIVEETTU- AEZHAI (மாடி-வீட்டு ஏழை).! (Palace dwelling POOR)

Further amongst the NINE PLANETS--- Some planets are the MOST IMPORTANT for anybody’s Horoscope,

They in the ORDER OF PRIORITY are---

1. Mars (Angaaraka)--- 2. Guru (Jupiter)---- 3. Soorya (Sun)---- 4. Sukra (Venus)--- 5. Chandra (Moon)

Mars is the MAIN PLANET to make any person’s life as EARTHLY PARADISE---

--- of ROYAL LIFE.!

---making all others concerned including the wealthiest, under his / her Mercy and Command.

Especially if He the Mars is placed in Lagna.

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aanaa

17th September 2010, 12:43 AM

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They in the ORDER OF PRIORITY are---

1. Mars (Angaaraka)--- 2. Guru (Jupiter)---- 3. Soorya (Sun)---- 4. Sukra (Venus)--- 5. Chandra (Moon)

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so the rest 4 planets not playing any significant role?
Saturn too? adamathu sani - Saturn in 8 th ?

Sudhaama

17th September 2010, 02:32 AM

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They in the ORDER OF PRIORITY are---

1. Mars (Angaaraka)--- 2. Guru (Jupiter)---- 3. Soorya (Sun)---- 4. Sukra (Venus)--- 5. Chandra (Moon)

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so the rest 4 planets not playing any significant role?
Saturn too? adamathu sani - Saturn in 8 th ?

Each and every Planet including Rahu and Kethu, have their own powers to do good or bad to the concerned person---

-- commensurate with its position.

World famous Indian Magician P.C. SARKAR reached the highest status, because of STRONG RAHU.

Sri RAMANA MAHARISHI reached up the Great Spiritual Leader of Mankind Status, mainly due to the STRONG KETHU.

The MOST MALEFIC Planet Saturn too can raise up a person to any Pinnacle height.

But in any case Saturn the so-called PLANET OF FATE for any and all, causes miserable downfall also---

--even to the person holding a Strong Saturn in the Horoscope.

For example, INDIRA GANDHI and KAMARAJ.

My point is... all the so called MOST IMPORTANT Five planets as quoted above can mitigate the ills of other planets to a GREAT EXTENT-

--ensuring a BALANCED STATUS always in Life.

NOT TO THE OPPOSITE EXTREMITIES--- HIGHLY OPPOSITE Plus and Minus Infinity status in Life, during different periods---

--- as in the cases of Kamaraj and Indira Gandhi.

Which is better.? King Today.. Beggar Tomorrow status.?

Highly FLUCTUATING Indefinitely.?

Or CONSTANTLY IN BETWEEN Status.?--

Well-balanced. all through Life?

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Sudhaama

17th November 2010, 03:55 AM

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Quote: "Web-Dunia"

உடன்-வாழ்வோராலும், ஜாதகத்தால் பாதிப்பா.?

ஜோதிடம் உணர்த்தும் வழிகாட்டல் உண்மை.!

"பேசும்போது ஒருவ*ரிட*ம் குறிப்பிட்டீர்கள், *பி*ள்ளை*ப்பேறு இ*ல்லாத இந்த நிலையில் நீங்கள் உங்கள் தாய், தந்தையருடன் ஒன்றாக இருக்கக் கூடாது என்று.

பொதுவான, ஒரு பிடிமானமான கருத்து என்பது தாய், தந்தையர் இல்லாமல் வாழக்கூடாது என்பது. ஒரு ஆண் அவர்களுடன்தான் வாழ வேண்டும். அப்படியிருக்கையில், உங்களுக்குப் பிள்ளை பேறு உண்டாக வேண்டுமென்றால், தற்பொழுது பிரிந்திருந்துதான் வாழ வேண்டும் என்று குறிப்பிட்டீர்கள்.

ஒரு தனிப்பட்ட மனிதரைச் சார்ந்த விஷயமாக இருந்தாலும் கூட, அது ஏற்புடையதாக இல்லை. அதை எப்படிச் சொன்னீர்கள்?

ஜோதிட ரத்னா முனைவர் க.ப.வித்யாதரன்:

அவருடைய ஜாதகத்தில் தாய், தந்தைக்குரிய கிரகம் அவருடைய லக்னத்தில் போய் மறைந்து கிடக்கிறது. அவருடைய ஜாதகத்தைப் பார்த்தபோது, தாய், தந்தை மீது பாசம் உள்ளவர் நீங்கள். ஆனால், அவர்கள் மனசு புன்படும்படி திட்டிக் கொண்டே இருப்பீர்களே? என்று கேட்டதற்கு, அது உண்மைதான் சார், ஆனால் அவர்களை என்னால் பிரிந்திருக்க முடியாது என்று கூறினார்.

உதாரணத்திற்கு அவர் கடக லக்னம் என்று வைத்துக்கொள்வோம். கடக லக்னத்திற்கு லக்னாபதி சந்திரன். அவருடைய ஜாதகத்தில் லக்னாதிபதி நன்றாகத்தான் இருக்கிறார். ஆனால், அந்த லக்னாதிபதிக்கு 6, 8, 12ல் தாய், தந்தைக்குரிய கிரகங்கள் மறைந்து கிடக்கிறது. அதுமட்டுமல்லாமல் மாதுர்காரகன் சந்திரன் நன்றாக இருந்தாலும், பிதுர்காரகன் சூரியன் கெட்டுப்போய் கிடக்கிறது.

அதனால்தான் அவரிடம் சொன்னேன், நீங்கள் தாய், தந்தையருடன் இருப்பதால் உங்களுடைய ஜாதகப்படி அவர்களுக்கு பாதிப்பு இருக்கிறது. அவர்களுடைய ஜாதகப்படியும் உங்களுக்கு சில பாதிப்புகள் உண்டாகிறது. உங்களுடைய லக்னாபதி சந்திரனும் மறைந்து கிடக்கிறார். லக்னாதிபதி மறைந்திருந்தாலோ, பலவீனமாக இருந்தாலோ, பாவ கிரகங்களுடன் சேர்ந்திருந்தாலோ தாய், தந்தையரை விட்டுப் பிரிந்து வரும்போது அவர்களுடைய வளர்ச்சி நன்றாக இருக்கும். அதனால்தான் அவரை தாய், தந்தையரை விட்டுப் பிரிந்து இருங்கள் என்று சொன்னேன்.

அதுமட்டுமல்லாமல், இவருக்கு தற்பொழுது திருமணமும் ஆகிவிட்டது. தற்பொழுதும் மனைவி முன்பாகவே அப்பா, அம்மாவை பேசியிருக்கிறார். இப்படி அவர்களை கேவலமாகப் பேசுவதை விட, அவர்களை விட்டுப் பிரிந்தே இருக்கலாம். அவர்கள் அன்பான, ஆதரவான வார்த்தைகளை விரும்புவார்கள். அவர்களை பாதுகாக்கிறேன் என்று இப்படி செய்வதை விட, அவர்களுடைய சொந்த ஊரிலேயே விட்டுவிட்டு வந்தால் அவர்களும் நிம்மதியாக இருப்பார்கள். நீங்களும் நிம்மதியாக இருப்பீர்கள்.

அதுமட்டுமல்லாமல், தாய், தந்தையை விட்டுப் பிரிவதால் முன்னுக்கு வரும் ஜாதகமெல்லாம் உண்டு. சில பெற்றோர்களுக்கெல்லாம் நான் சொல்வதுண்டு, உங்களுடைய பிள்ளையை கொஞ்ச நாட்களுக்கு வெளியூர் அனுப்புங்கள், வெளிநாடு அனுப்புங்கள், அப்பொழுதுதான் அவருக்கு சிறப்பாக இருக்கும் என்று. ஏனென்றால் சிலருக்கு 10க்கு உரியவன் 8ல் போய் மறைந்திருப்பான். 10 ஆம் இடம் உத்தியோகஸ்தானம். 10க்கு உரியவர் எட்டிலோ, பன்னிரண்டிலோ போய் மறைந்தால் அவர் இருக்கிற நாட்டில், அவர் இருக்கிற மாநிலத்தில் வேலை கிடைக்காது.

ஒரே பிள்ளைங்க, வேறு ஏதாவது பரிகாரம் இருக்கிறதா என்றெல்லாம் சிலர் கேட்பார்கள். இதுதாங்க பரிகாரம் என்று சொல்வேன். உங்க பையன் நன்றாக இருக்க வேண்டுமென்றால் அனுப்பி வையுங்கள். கொஞ்ச நாட்களுக்கு அவருக்கு கஷ்டமாக இருக்கும். பிறகு அவரே அங்கிருந்து வரமாட்டார். இதுபோல, நிறைய பேர் போய் நல்ல மாற்றங்கள் வந்திருக்கிறது.

அதனால்தான், கிரகங்களுடைய செயல்பாடுகளை கவனிக்க வேண்டும். அந்த கிரகங்களுடைய யதார்த்தமான இயல்பு என்ன? இந்த தசை புக்திக்கு அந்த கிரகம் எப்படி செயல்படும். அதைத் தெரிந்துகொண்டு நடைமுறைப் பரிகாரம் செய்தால், அது வெற்றியைக் கொடுக்கும்.

நான் சொன்ன பிறகு அவர் தாய், தந்தையரைப் பிரிந்து இருந்தார். இவருக்கும் வளர்ச்சி, அவர்களுக்கும் நிம்மதி. இவருக்கும் குழந்தை பாக்கியம் உண்டாகியிருக்கிறது. சாதாரண கம்பெனியில் இருந்து பெரிய கம்பெனியில் சேர்ந்திருக்கிறார். மாத ஊதியம் அப்படியே இரண்டு மடங்காக உயர்ந்திருக்கிறது. முன்பை விட தற்பொழுது அப்பா, அம்மாவிற்கு அதிகமாகச் செலவு செய்கிறார்.

அதனால், சில கிரங்களை வைத்துப் பார்க்கும் போது, என்னதான் பெற்றோர்கள், சகோதரர்கள் என்று பாசமாக இருந்தாலும், கிரக அமைப்புகளை வைத்து அவரவர்கள் சில இடைவெளிகளை கடைபிடிக்கும் போது உறவு முறையும் பாதிக்காமல் இருக்கும், அதே நேரம் பகைமையும் வராமல் இருக்கும்.

இன்னொரு பெண்மணி ஒருவர் வந்திருந்தார். தனிக்குடித்தனம் போக வேண்டும் என்று 7 வருடமாக இவருடன் போராடிக் கொண்டிருக்கிறேன் என்று சொன்னார். கணவருடைய ஜாதகத்தைப் பார்க்கும் போது, அது தனிக்குடித்தனம் போகக்கூடிய ஜாதகமாகவே இல்லை. அவர் ஜாதகப்படி, மிதுன லக்னம். லக்னாதிபதி புதன். லக்னத்திலேயே புதன் உட்கார்ந்திருக்கிறார். 4க்குரிய கிரகமும், அதாவது தாய்க்குரிய கிரகமும் அவர்தான். அடுத்து 9க்குரியவர். தகப்பனாருக்கு உரியவர் சனி பகவான். எல்லாமே புதன், சனி லக்னத்திலேயே உட்கார்ந்து இருக்கிறார்கள். கூடவே சுக்ரனும் உட்கார்ந்திருக்கிறார்.

நான் தெளிவாகச் சொல்லிவிட்டேன். இவர் தனிக்குடித்தனம் வரமாட்டார். அப்படி நீங்கள் தனிக்குடித்தனத்திற்கு அழைத்துச் சென்றால், இவருக்கு சில நோய்கள் வருவதற்கு வாய்ப்புகள் இருக்கிறது. விபத்துகள் நடப்பதற்கு வாய்ப்பு இருக்கிறது என்று சொன்னேன். அதற்கு, தனிக்குடித்தனத்திற்கும், இதற்கும் என்ன சம்பந்தம் இருக்கிறது. தனியாகப் போனால் நன்றாகத்தானே இருப்போம். நீங்கள் சரியாகப் பார்த்துச் சொல்லுங்கள் என்று சொன்னார். இவருடைய ஜாதகத்திற்கு இப்படித்தான் இருக்கிறது என்று மீண்டும் சொன்னேன்.

பிறகு அந்தப் பெண்மணி அவரிடம் போராடி தனிக்குடித்தனம் வந்துவிட்டார்கள். தனிக்குடித்தனம் வந்த மூன்றாம் நாளே விபத்தில் சிக்கியிருக்கிறார். கணவரும், மனைவியும் சேர்ந்து காரில் கோயிலுக்குச் சென்றிருக்கிறார்கள். இப்பொழுதுதான் நிம்மதியாக இருக்கிறது என்று அந்தப் பெண்மணி சொல்லியிருக்கிறார். அவ்வளவுதான், எதிரே வந்த தண்ணீர் லாரி மோதி கார் கதவு கழட்டிக் கொண்டு போய், கால்களில் பலத்த அடிபட்டு ஸ்டீல் ராட் வைத்திருக்கிறார்கள் அவருக்கு. உடனே, அந்தப் பெண்மணி ·போன் செய்து விபத்தாகவிட்டது சார், என்று சொன்னார்கள். அந்த மாதிரி சில கிரக அமைப்புகள் உண்டு.

சில பிள்ளைகள் உண்டு. எப்பொழுது பார்த்தாலும் அவருடைய அம்மாவிடமே பேசிக் கொண்டிருக்கிறார். என்னிடத்தில் பேசமாட்டேங்கிறார் என்று மனைவி புலம்புவார்கள். சில ஜாதகம் அம்மா பிள்ளையாக இருக்கும். சில ஜாதகம் அப்பா பிள்ளையாக இருக்கும். அதை நாம் தடுக்கக் கூடாது. அதைவிட்டுவிட்டு அம்மாவிடம் பேசக்கூடாது. அம்மாவிடமே பேசுகிறார் என்று குறைபடக் கூடாது. அந்த நேரத்தில் என்ன திசை, என்ன புக்தி என்று பார்த்துவிட்டு அதன்படி நாம் செயல்பட வேண்டும்.

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selvakumar

23rd January 2012, 12:51 AM

so the rest 4 planets not playing any significant role?
Saturn too? adamathu sani - Saturn in 8 th ?

Saturn transiting the 8th house in Kocharam will create many problems. I have seen "practical examples" where the concerned person goes through lot of troubles and at least once he will visit prison during this time. His health will take a beating. Will lose his job and will create panic in the family. Avanmanam nerya varum. People generally focus more on 7.5 Saturn period more. Astamathu Sani effect is more or less the same. Effect will be more if Saturn is placed in the 8th house in the person's horoscope. Just a year ago, a close relative of mine was accused by his neighbour that he tried to molest her. Mistake was not his but the lady was trying to use it to make him vacate the house that doesn't belong to her. As a result, he had to pay a visit to the police station and stay there for a day till it was settled in the station itself without any case. These kind of things can happen during this period.

Now Saturn is in Libra. It is a sign he has the maximum power. But he will "actually" enter it 1 year from now. In the next 3 years, people whose moon sign is pisces will go through extreme difficulties. Powerful Saturn in a sign where he has maximum power and it is the 8th house for pisces people. They should be VERY CAREFUL during this period.

but after this when he moves to the 9th house, Saturn will heal them. Alli kodupparu and people generally get good name in their job and at times get a good job.

selvakumar

23rd January 2012, 12:59 AM

Each and every Planet including Rahu and Kethu, have their own powers to do good or bad to the concerned person---

-- commensurate with its position.

World famous Indian Magician P.C. SARKAR reached the highest status, because of STRONG RAHU...

Yes. Sudhaama is perfect as usual in his views. Rahu generally brings lot of luck and can continously bring it during his DASA if he is a beneficial planet as per the native's horoscope. Read in suppaiya sir's classroom that Nadigar Thilagam Sivaji ganesan had lot of success after Parasakthi. He had a strong Raghu and it continued for him for the next 15+ years! Needless to say that he didn't have the same thing (as per the career graph) after that golden period or at the same level.

selvakumar

23rd January 2012, 01:37 AM

Singara Chennai 8-)
U still want to be more precise abt the place :?:

Disclaimer : I am not a professional astrologer and only an amateur. Take the below ones with a pinch/truck load of salt :lol:

My observations are
As per your horoscope, you have "Dharmakarmathi pathi yoga" and "Guru Mangala (9th + 10th house lords)" yoga. Your 5th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th houses have 30+ parals in your astavarga. All these things are quite beneficial for you. பிறக்கும் போது சுக்கிர திசை அதன் பிறகு சூரிய திசை 2005 வரை. இப்போ உங்களுக்கு சந்திர மகாதிசையில் சுக்கிர புத்தி நடக்கிறது. லக்கினாதிபதி சந்திரன் ஆறில், 4 (சுக ஸ்தானம்), 11(லாப ஸ்தானம்) இவற்றின் அதிபதி சுக்கிரன் 12ல். 11ம் இடம் உங்களுக்கு இருப்பதிலேயே அதிக 35 பரல்களைக் கொண்டுள்ளது. இப்படி சுக்கிர புத்தி நடந்தால் நல்ல லாபம் வரணும். ஆனால், அவர் 12ல் மறைந்துவிட்டதால் அந்த அளவுக்கு கிடைக்காது. இதன் பிறகு சந்திர திசையில் சூரிய புத்தி. சூரியன் உங்க ஜாதகப்படி தனாதிபதி. அவர் 11ல். நல்லா இருக்கும். அதன் பிறகு கடக லக்னத்திற்கு யோக காரகனான செவ்வாய் (5, 10க்கு உரியவர் 2ல் 9, 7க்கு உரிய குரு சனியுடன்). இது 2015 ல் ஆரம்பித்து 2022 வரை உங்களுக்கு தொழில் ரீதியாக நல்ல பலன் கொடுக்கும். அதன் பிறகு ராகு திசை 2022 இல் இருந்து. கவனமாக இருக்க வேண்டிய காலம்.

லக்னத்தில் 25க்கும் குறைவாக பரல் இருக்கிறது. தனித்து நிற்கும் திறன் இருக்காது உங்களுக்கு. 7ம் வீட்டிலும் 25க்கும் குறைவான பரல். இந்த இரண்டும் கொஞ்சம் நெகட்டிவ்தான்.

selvakumar

23rd January 2012, 01:45 AM

Prabo, Just for my analysis. Are you a from a rich or a relatively upper middle class family especially from your father side?

aanaa

23rd January 2012, 03:05 AM

Dear “aana”, I will be thankful if you can get the Answers for YOUR QUESTIONS--- from any RELIABLE Astrologer and post here.

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source: http://astrovanakam.blogspot.com/2010/08/blog-post_04.html

முதல் வீடு

ஜாதகத்தில் "ல" என்று போடப்பட்ட வீடுதான் முதல் வீடு எனப் படும். அதாவது
அதுதான் லக்கினம் எனப்படும். நமது ௪தாரண ஜாதகத்தில் மகரம் தான் முதல் வீடு
ஆகும். அடுத்த வீடு 2-ம் வீடு ஆகும். அதாவது கும்பம் தான் 2-ம் வீடு ஆகும்.
இப்படியே எண்ணிக் கொண்டு வந்தால் தனுசு தான் 12-ம் வீடு ஆகும். அதாவது எந்த
ஜாதகத்தை எடுத்தாலும் லக்கினத்தை முதல் வீடாகக் கொண்டு எண்ண வேண்டும்.
ஒவ்வொரு வீட்டிற்கும் சில காரகத்துவம் ௪ண்டு. அவைகளை நீங்கள் தெரிந்து
கொள்ள வேண்டும். அப்போதுதான் நீங்கள் பலன் சொல்ல முடியும்.

முதல் வீடு : இதை வைத்து ஜாதகருடைய நிறம், ௪ருவம், ௪யரம்,
குணாதிசயங்கள் முதலியவற்றை அறியலாம். ஜாதகர் ஒல்லியானவரா, இல்லை
பருமனானவரா, கோபம் ௪ள்ளவரா, இல்லை சாந்தமானவரா என்றும் அறியலாம்.
அவர் ௪டல் நலத்தைப் பற்றியும் அறியலாம். அவர் வாழ்க்கையில் ௪யர்ந்த நிலைக்குப்
போவாரா இல்லை தாழ்ந்த நிலைக்குப் போவாரா, என்பது பற்றியும் அறியலாம்.
௪டல் பாகத்தில் தலையைக் குறிப்பது முதல் வீடு தான். ஒருவர் சொந்த ஊரில்
வாழ்வாரா அல்லது அந்நிய தேசத்தில் வாழ்வாரா என்பது பற்றியும் முதல் வீட்டை
வைத்துத்தான் சொல்ல வேண்டும். முதல் வீட்டில் யார், யார் இருக்கிறார்கள், முதல்
வீட்டின் அதிபதி எங்கு இருக்கிறார் அதாவது லக்கினாதிபதி எங்கு இருக்கிறார்,
முதல் வீட்டை எந்தெந்த கிரகங்கள் பார்க்கின்றன என்பதை வைத்தும் பலன் சொல்ல
வேண்டும்.

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இதுவரை நாம் பொதுவானபலன்களை மட்டும் பார்த்தோம். இப்பொழுது ஜாதகத்தில் ஒவ்வொரு வீட்டையும் பார்க்கலாம். ஒவ்வொரு வீட்டுக்கும் என்ன என்ன குணங்கள் இருக்கின்றன என்று பார்ப்போம்.

முதலில் முதல் வீட்டுக்கு என்ன குணங்கள் என்று பார்ப்போம். முதல் வீட்டை எப்படி கண்டுபிடிப்பது. ஜாதகத்தில் ல என்று போட்டிருக்கும் அது தான் முதல் வீடு. அது தான் ஒருவரின் தலைபகுதி. அவர் முகம் எப்படி இருக்கும். குணம் எப்படி இருக்கும். உயரம் எவ்வளவு. அவர் வாழ்க்கையில் எந்தளவு முன்னேறுவார் என்று காட்டும். இதை மட்டும் வைத்து பலன் சொல்லகூடாது.

லக்கினத்தின் மீது எந்த கிரகத்தின் பார்வை விழுகிறது. லக்கினம் சென்று அமர்ந்த இடம் எல்லாத்தையும் எடுத்துக்கொள்ள வேண்டும். அப்பொழுதுதான் பலன் சரியாக வரும்.

சிலபேருக்கு லக்கினம் கெட்டு இருந்தாலும் மற்ற வீட்டின் கிரகங்கள் மூலம் நல்ல வாழ்க்கை அமையும். அதனால் அனைத்து வீட்டின் தன்மைகளும் கணக்கில் கொண்டு பலன் சொல்ல வேண்டும். லக்கினத்தில் நல்ல கிரகங்கள் இருந்தால் நல்லது. கெட்ட கிரகங்கள் இருந்தால் பல துன்பங்களை அனுபவிக்கவேண்டும்.

இப்பொழுது லக்கினாதிபதி சென்று அமரும் பலன்களைப்பற்றி பார்க்கலாம். லக்கினாதிபதி முதல் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் ஆட்சியில் இருக்கிறார் என்று அர்த்தம். அதனால் நல்ல ஆயுள் இருக்கும் கஷ்டம் இல்லாத வாழ்க்கை அமையும். நல்ல மரியாதையுடன் வாழ்க்கை நடத்தபவராகவும் இருப்பார்.

லக்கினாதிபதி 2 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் சுயசம்பளத்தில் குடும்பத்தை நடத்துபவராகவும் நல்ல குடும்ப வாழ்க்கையும் அமையும். 2 ஆம் வீடு குடும்பம் ஸ்தானம் ஆகையால் குடும்பம் மூலம் வருமானத்தை பெறலாம்.

லக்கினாதிபதி 3 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் மூன்றாம் வீடு தைரியம் ஸ்தானம் அதனால் மிகுந்த தைரியசாலியாக இருப்பார்கள். தம்பி மூலம் வருமானம் இருக்கும். அடிக்கடி சிறு பயணங்கள் ஏற்படும்.

லக்கினாதிபதி 4 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் தாய் நன்றாக இருப்பார் தாய் மூலம் வருமானம் இருக்கும். கல்வி நன்றாக வரும். கல்வி என்றால் பள்ளி படிப்பு நன்றாக இருக்கும். உயர்கல்விக்கு வேறு வீட்டை பார்க்க வேண்டும். நல்ல வீடு அமையும். தாய்வழியில் நன்றாக உதவி இருக்கும்.

லக்கினாதிபதி 5 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் நல்ல குழந்தை பாக்கியம் அமையும். குழந்தை மூலம் நல்ல பெயர் கிடைக்கும். தெய்வ ஆற்றல் கிடைக்கும். மத வழிபாடு சத்சங்கம் செய்தல் ஆகியவை கிடைக்க பெறும். குலதெய்வம் அருள் கிடைக்கும்.

லக்கினாதிபதி 6 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் உடல் நோய் உடையதாக இருக்கும் அல்லது அடிக்கடி மருத்துவச் செலவு வைக்கும். 6 ஆம் வீடு சத்துரு ஸ்தானம் அதனால் விரோதிகள் மூலம் தொந்தரவு இருந்துக்கொண்டே இருக்கும். பொதுவாக 6 ஆம் வீட்டில் லக்கினாதிபதி இருப்பது நல்லதல்ல.

லக்கினாதிபதி 7 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் மனைவியும் மூலம் சொத்துக்கள் கிடைக்கப்பெறும். மனைவியின் சம்பாதியத்தில் வாழ்பவராகும் இருப்பர். அடிக்கடி வெளியில் சுற்றபவராகவும் இருப்பார்கள்.

லக்கினாதிபதி 8 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் நீண்ட ஆயுள் இருப்பார் ஆனால் மிகுந்த வறுமையுடன் குடும்பத்தை நடத்துபவராகவும் இருப்பார்கள். கடன் தொல்லை இருந்துகொண்டு இருக்கும். ஒரு சிலர்கள் உடல் நோய் இருக்கும்.

லக்கினாதிபதி 9 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் தகப்பனாரின் ஆதரவை பெற்றவராவார். தந்தையார் நன்றாக இருப்பார் அதைபோல் முன்னோர்களின் ஆசி பெற்றவராவார். சிலர் வெளிநாடுகளில் சென்று வருவார்கள். தெய்வ அருள் கிடைக்கும்.

லக்கினாதிபதி 10 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் நல்ல தொழில் அமையும். தொழில்துறையில் வளர்ச்சி இருக்கும். அரசாங்க உதவி கிடைக்க பெறுவார்கள். உறவினர்கள் மூலம் மதிக்கப்படுவார்கள்.

லக்கினாதிபதி 11 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் வாழ்க்கை முழுவதும் நல்ல நிலையில் இருப்பார்கள் . நல்ல தொழில் அமையும். மூத்த சகோதரர்களின் ஆதரவு கிடைக்கும். நீண்ட ஆயுள் இருக்கும்.

லக்கினாதிபதி 12 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் அவ்வளவு நல்லதல்ல எவ்வளவு வருமானம் கிடைத்தாலும் செலவு செய்துவிடுவார்கள். எந்த வேலையும் ஒழுங்காக செய்ய மாட்டார்கள். வேலையில் இருந்தால் ஒரு இடத்தில் நிரந்தரமாக இருக்கமாட்டார்கள். அடிக்கடி இடம் மாற்றல் ஆகும். சோம்பேறி என்று பெயர் எடுப்பார்கள்.

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aanaa

23rd January 2012, 03:06 AM

source: http://astrovanakam.blogspot.com/2010/08/blog-post_23.html

இரண்டாம் வீடு

இரண்டாவது வீடு : இது குடும்பத்தைக் குறிக்கிறது. பணவரவு, செலவு
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இரண்டாம் வீடு என்பது குடும்ப ஸ்தானம்.தன ஸ்தானம். வாக்கு ஸ்தானம் எனப்படும். இரண்டாம் வீட்டை வைத்து என்ன பலன் கூறலாம் என்று பார்க்கலாம். முதலில் இரண்டாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி யார் அவர் எங்கு இருக்கிறார். இரண்டாம் வீட்டை எந்த கிரகங்களின் பார்வை இருக்கிறது என்று பார்க்க வேண்டும் அப்பொழுதுதான் பலன் சரியாக வரும். இரண்டாம் வீடு என்பது ஒருவரின் பணநிலமை. வங்கியில் இருக்கும் பணம் மற்றும் தங்க நகைகள் குறிக்கும். குடும்பம் எப்படி இருக்கும் குடும்பத்தில் அமைதி இருக்குமா அல்லது குடும்பத்தில் கலவரம் இருக்குமா ஒருவர் எப்படி பேசுவார் திக்கிதிக்கி பேசுவார அல்லது வேடிக்கையாக பேசுவார அல்லது பேசவே மாட்டாரா என்று கூறலாம். ஒருவருடைய கண்பார்வை எப்படி இருக்கும் என்பதும் பற்றியும் கூறலாம்.

ஒருவருக்கு குழந்தை பாக்கியத்தையும் இந்த வீட்டை வைத்து சொல்லலாம் ஒருவருக்கு குழந்தை பாக்கியத்ததை கொடுக்கும் வீடு 5 ஆம் வீ்டு ஆனால் குழந்தை பாக்கியம் என்றால் ஒரு நபர் குடும்பத்தில் கூடுகிறார் என்று அர்த்தம் குடும்பத்தின் நபர்களை குறிப்பது இரண்டாம் வீடு இரண்டாம் வீடு நன்றாக இருந்தால்தான் ஒருவருக்கு குழந்தை பாக்கியம் கிடைக்கும் இரண்டாம் வீடு கெட்டால் குழந்தை பாக்கியம் இருக்காது. இப்பொழுது புரிகிறதா இரண்டாம் வீட்டின் பயன் என்ன வென்று.

அதைப்போல் ஒருவருக்கு திருமணம் ஆகவில்லை என்றால் ஏன் என்று இரண்டாம் வீட்டை வைத்து பார்க்க வேண்டும். இரண்டாம் வீட்டின் அடுத்த பண்பு இளைய சகோதரத்தின் விரையம். எப்படி இது சாத்தியம் இளைய சகோதரத்தைப் பற்றி கூறுவது மூன்றாம் வீடு மூன்றாம் வீட்டிற்க்கு 12 ஆம் வீடு இரண்டாம் வீடு அல்லவா அதனால் அது மூன்றாம் வீட்டிற்க்கு விரையம் ஆகிறது. இளைய சகோதரத்தின் விரையம் மரணம் ஆகியவற்றை காட்டும். அவர் எப்படி இறப்பார் எப்படி பணத்தை செலவு செய்வார் ஆகியவற்றை காட்டும் வீடு இரண்டாம் வீடு

இரண்டாம் வீட்டை வாக்கு ஸ்தானம் என்று கூறினேன் அல்லவா அதைப்பற்றி பார்ப்போம் இரண்டாம் வீட்டில் செவ்வாய் இருந்தால் கடினமாக பேசுவார் கேது இருந்தாலும் பேச்சு கடினம் இருக்கும். புதன் இருந்தால் நன்றாக பேசுவார். நல்ல கிரங்கள் இருந்தால் பேச்சு நன்றாக இருக்கும்.

அடுத்ததாக இரண்டாம் வீட்டை தன ஸ்தானம் என்றும் கூறுவது எப்படி என்று பார்ப்போம் நமக்கு வரும் வருமானம் அதாவது பொருளாதார வளர்சி எப்படி என்று காட்டுவது இரண்டாம் வீடு. இரண்டாம் வீட்டில் நல்ல கிரகங்கள் இருந்தால் பொருளாதார வளர்ச்சி நன்றாக இருக்கும் தீயகிரகங்கள் இருந்தால் பொருளாதார வளர்ச்சி மெதுவாக இருக்கும். பொருளாதார வளர்ச்சியை பார்க்கும் போது 10 ஆம் மற்றும் 11 வீட்டையும் கணக்கில் எடுத்துக்கொள்ள வேண்டும் அதனுடன் 6 ஆம் வீட்டையும் கணக்கில் எடுத்துக்கொள்ளவேண்டும் 6 ஆம் வீடு ஜாதகர் செய்வது சுயதொழிலா அல்லது அடிமைதொழிலா என்று தெரியவரும். இவற்றையேல்லாம் கணக்கில் கொண்டுதான் தன ஸ்தானத்தை முடிவு செய்யவேண்டும்.

இப்பொழுது 2 ம் வீட்டு அதிபதி எந்தெந்த வீட்டில் இருந்தால் என்ன பலன் என்று பார்ப்போம். முதல் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் நன்றான குடும்ப வாழ்க்கை அமையும் சுயமாக சம்பாதித்து முன்னுக்கு வருவார்.

இரண்டாம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் குடும்ப வாழ்க்கை நன்றாக அமையும் பணப்புழக்கம் அதிகமாக இருக்கும் மொத்தத்தில் கொடுத்துவைத்தவர்.

மூன்றாம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் சகோதர் மூலம் வருமானம் கிடைக்கும.

4 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் வீடு வாகனம் மூலம் வருமானம் உண்டு.

இரண்டாம் வீட்டு அதிபர் 5 ல் இருந்தால் அவருக்கு திடிர் என்று பணவரவு இருக்கும் லாட்டரி அல்லது ரேஸ் மூலம் பணவரவு இருக்கும்.

இரண்டாம் வீட்டு அதிபர் 6 ல் இருந்தால் வேலையின் மூலம் பணவரவு இருக்கும்.

இரண்டாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 7 ல் இருந்தால் அவரின் மனைவி அல்லது கணவன் மூலம் வருமானம் இருக்கும் சிலருக்கு அந்நிய நாட்டின் மூலமாக வருமானம் இருக்கும்.

இரண்டாம் வீட்டு அதிபர் 8 ல் இருந்தால் அவ்வளவு நல்லதல்ல ஏன் என்றால் 8 ஆம் வீடு மறைவு ஸ்தானம் ஆகும்.

இரண்டாம் வீட்டு அதிபர் 9 ல் இருந்தால் தந்தை வழியாக பணம் வரும் அல்லது அந்நிய நாட்டின் மூலமாக பணவரவு இருக்கும்.

இரண்டாம் வீட்டு அதிபர் 10 ல் இருந்தால் தொழில் செய்து சம்பாதிப்பார்.

இரண்டாம் வீட்டு அதிபர் 11 ல் இருந்தால் நல்ல பணவரவு இருக்கும். அண்ணன் மூலமாகவும் பணவரவு உதவி இருக்கும்

இரண்டாம் வீட்டு அதிபர் 12 ல் இருந்தால் பணம் விரையமாகும்.

இரண்டாம் வீட்டில் பாவகிரகங்கள் இருந்தால் கண் பார்வையில் கோளாறு இருக்கும். அதைப்போல் 7 ம் வீட்டு மூலம் நன்றான மனைவி அமைந்தாலும் இரண்டாம் வீட்டில் பாவகிரகங்கள் இருந்தால் இருவரையும் தனித்தனியாக பிரித்து வைத்துவிடும். ஒருவருக்கு இரண்டாம் வீட்டு அதிபதியின் தசா புத்தியில் மரணம் ஏற்படும். மரணத்தைப் பற்றி எழுதும் போது முழுவதும் எழுதுகிறேன்.

இரண்டாம் வீட்டை வைத்து அண்ணனின் வீட்டைப்பற்றி கூறலாம். எப்படி என்றால் 11 ம் வீடு அண்ணனின் வீடு 11 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்து 4 ம் வீடு ஜாதகரின் இரண்டாம் வீடு அல்லவா அதனால் அண்ணனின் வீடு எப்படி இருக்கும் என்று கூறலாம். அதைப்போல் தாயின் வருமானத்தைப்பற்றியும் கூறலாம் எப்படி என்றால் 4 ம் வீடு தாய் ஸ்தானம் 4 ம் வீட்டிற்க்கு 11ம் வீடு ஜhதகரின் இரண்டாம் வீடு அல்லவா அதனால் தாயாரின் லாபம் எப்படி என்றும் கூறலாம். இதுவரை 2 ம் வீட்டின் காரதுவத்தைப்பற்றி பார்த்தோம்

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23rd January 2012, 03:07 AM

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நகைச்சுவையாகக் கூறப்போனால் அவரைக் "கலியுக நாரதர்" எனவும் கூறலாம். ௪டல்
பாகங்களில் காதுகள், தொண்டை, கைகள், நரம்பு மண்டலம், ஆகியவற்றை இந்த
3-ம் வீடு குறிக்கிறது. இந்த வீட்டை தைரிய ஸ்தானம் என்றும் கூறுவார்கள். இந்த
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தான். அங்கே சனி இருந்தால் அவர் அவசரப் படாமல் நிதானத்துடன் செயல் படுவர்.
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மூன்றாம் வீட்டைப்பற்றி இப்பொழுது பார்க்கலாம். மூன்றாம் வீடு சகோதர ஸ்தானமாகும். ஜாதகன் குணங்கள் மனோவலிமை இளைய சகோதரம் எப்படி இருப்பார் . அவர் ஜாதகருக்கு நன்மை செய்வாரா தாயாரின் விரையம் தபால் போக்குவரத்து இப்பொழுது ஏது தபால் போக்குவரத்து email லை வைத்துக்கொள்ளலாம் பக்கத்துவீட்டு நபர்கள் எப்படி இருப்பார்கள் குறுகிய பயணம் எப்படி இருக்கும், காது சம்பந்தமான நோய், நீங்கள் இருக்கும் வீடு எப்பொழுது காலி செய்வது ஆகியவைகள் எல்லாம் மூன்றாம் வீடு மூலம் காணலாம்.

இப்பொழுது மூன்றாம் வீட்டின் அதிபதி ஒவ்வொரு வீட்டில் இருந்தால் என்ன பலன் என்று பார்க்கலாம்.

மூன்றாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் 1 வது வீடாகிய லக்கினத்தில் இருந்தால் இளைய சகோதரம் இருக்கும் பல வேலைகளை வைத்து வேலை வாங்கும்படியான அதிகாரம் கிடைக்கும். சங்கீதம் நாட்டியம் போன்றவற்றில் ஈடுபாடு அதிகம் ஏற்படும். உடல் பலம் போகங்களுடன் இருப்பார்கள் வைரம்.நகைகள பெறுவார்கள் சகோதர. சகோதரிகளின் ஆதரவை பெறுவார்கள்.

மூன்றாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் 2 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் சகோதர.சகோதரிகளின் ஆதரவில் காலம் கழிப்பவனாகவும்.தைரியமில்லாதவனாகவும் உடலில் வியாதி உடையவனாகவும் இருப்பார்கள். மூன்றாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி கெட்ட கிரகங்கள் பார்வை இல்லை என்றால் சகோதர சகோதரிகளின் சொத்து கிடைக்கும்.

மூன்றாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் 3 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் சகோதர சகோதரிகள் நல்ல அந்தஸ்த்தோடு இருப்பார்கள் அவர்களால் இவருக்கு எல்லாவிதத்திலும் ஆதரவு இருக்கும். கலைகளில் பிரியம் கொண்டவனாக இருப்பார்கள் . நல்ல பலசாலியாகவும் இருப்பார்கள். தங்கம்.வெள்ளி ஆடை மீது ஆசை இருக்கும் அதுபோல் கிடைக்கும். தெய்வ வழிபாடு கிடைக்கும்.

மூன்றாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் 4 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் சுபபலமிருந்தால் குடும்பத்தில் ஒற்றுமை இருக்கும் சகோதர சகோதரிகள் நீண்ட ஆயுளுடனும் தாயார் தாய்வழி ஆதரவை பெற்றவர்களாகவும் குடும்பத்தில் செல்வமும் சுகமும் நிறைந்து விளங்கும்.

மூன்றாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் 5 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் குழந்தை பாக்கியங்களை பெற்றவனாகவும். சகோதர சகோதரிகளின் ஆதரவை பெற்றவராகவும். குடும்பத்தில் மகிழ்ச்சி நிறைந்து விளங்கும் பெரிய மனிதர்களின் ஆதரவு கிடைக்கும். தெய்வீக வழிபாட்டில் உள்ளவர்களிடம் தொடர்பு கிடைக்கும்.

மூன்றாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் 6 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் சகோதர சகோதரிகள் பரம எதிரிகளாக இருப்பார்கள் உடல் பலமில்லாமலும் இருப்பார்கள் அடிக்கடி நோய் வந்து தொந்தரவு தரும்.

மூன்றாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் 7 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் பெண்களின் மீது ஈர்ப்புடன் இருப்பான். வேலை இல்லாமல் ஊர் சுற்றி திரிபவனாகவும் இருப்பான். தன்னுடைய சுகங்கள் மட்டும் பார்ப்பான். மனைவியின் சொத்துக்களை பெற முயல்வார்கள். நன்றாக சாப்பிடுவார்கள்.

மூன்றாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் 8 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் சகோதர சகோதரிகள் உடன் சண்டை இருந்து கொண்டு இருக்கும். உடல் ஊனம் ஏற்படும். சிரமத்துடன் குடும்பம் நடத்த வேண்டும். சில பேர்க்கு கடன்கள் ஏற்படும். சிலருக்கு அவமானம் ஏற்படும்

மூன்றாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் 9 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் நல்ல தைரியசாலியாகவும் பூர்வ புண்ணியத்தில் நல்ல வசதி பெற்றவராகவும் இருப்பார்கள். தெய்வபக்தியுடன் இருப்பார்கள்.

மூன்றாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் 10 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் சகோதர சகோதரிகளின் மூலம் வேலை வாய்ப்பு கிடைக்கும். அதன் மூலம் குடும்பத்தை நடத்துபவர்களாக இருப்பார்கள்.

மூன்றாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் 11 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் சகோதர சகோதரிகளின் அன்பை பெற்றவர்களாக இருப்பார்கள் அவர்களிடம் இருந்து லாபம் கிடைக்கும்

மூன்றாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் 12 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் சகோதர சகோதரிகள் மூலம் விரையம் ஏற்படும். சொத்துகள் விரையத்தை ஏற்படுத்தலாம். அலைச்சலும் மன சஞ்சலம் ஏற்படும்.

aanaa

23rd January 2012, 03:08 AM

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நான்காம் வீடு

இது தாயாரைக் குறிக்கும் வீடு. கல்லூரிவரையிலான
படிப்பு, வீடு, வாசல் போன்ற ஸ்திர சொத்துக்கள், பூமிக்குள் இருக்கும் புதையல்,
கால்நடைகள்,பசுக்கள், விளைநிலங்கள், அதிலிருந்து கிடைக்கும் தான்யங்கள்
ஆகியவற்றைக் குறிப்பதும் இந்த நாலாவது வீடுதான். ஒருவருக்கு 4-ம் வீட்டில்
செவ்வாய் இருக்கிறார் என்க் கொள்ளுங்கள். அவர் நிச்சயமாக வீடு கட்டுவர்.
ஏனெனில் செவ்வாய் பூமிகாரகன். பூமிகார கனான செவ்வாய் 4-ம் வீட்டுடன்
சம்பந்தப் பட்டதால் அவர் நிச்சயம் வீடு கட்டுவர். இதே செவ்வாய் 9-ம் வீட்டு
அதிபதி எனக் கொள்வோம். இவருக்கு தகப்பனாரின் வீடு கிடைக்கும். ஏன்?
9-ம் வீடு தகப்பனாரைக் குறிக்கிறது. செவ்வாய் பூமிகாரகனாகி, 9-ம் வீட்டையும்
குறித்து , ஸ்திரசொத்துக்களைக் குறிக்கும் வீடான 4-ம் வீட்டில் இருக்கிறார்.
ஆக இவருக்கு தகப்பனாரின் வீடு கிடைக்கும் எனக் கூறலாம். என்ன புரிகிறதா
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இப்பொழுது நாம் நான்காம் வீட்டைப்பற்றி பார்க்கலாம். நான்காம் வீடு தாயார் ஸ்தானம் என அழைக்கப்படுகிறது. தாய்,தாய்மாமன்,வாகனம்,உறவினர், இன்பங்கள், மூதாதையர்கள் சொத்து,பயிர்,நிலம்,வீடு வாசல் பள்ளிக்கல்வி ஆகியவற்றை நான்காம் வீட்டின் மூலம் காணலாம்.

இப்பொழுது நான்காம் வீட்டு அதிபதி ஒவ்வொரு வீட்டில் இருந்தால் என்ன பலன் என்று பார்க்கலாம்.

நான்காம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 1 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் பங்களா போன்ற வீடுகள், நிலபுலங்கள், வண்டி வாகனங்கள், மாடு கன்று, பால் பாக்கியம் ஆகியவற்றுடன் நன்றாக வாழ்வான். தாய் வழி பாட்டி மாமன் முதலானேர் ஆதரவு நிரம்பி இருக்கும். கல்வியில் திறமையுடன் இருப்பார்கள் அதைப்போல் உயர்ந்த பதவியில் அமருவான். 4 ஆம் வீட்டு அதிபதி கெட்ட சேர்க்கை ஏற்பட்டால் கெடுதிபலன் நடைபெறும்.

நான்காம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 2 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் தாய்வழி ஆதரவையும் சொத்துக்களையும் பெறுவார்கள் குடும்பத்தில் சுகம் நிறைந்து காணப்படும்.

நான்காம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 3 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் அந்த ஜாதகனிட விட அவன் சகோதரன் சிறந்த விளங்குவான். ஜாதகனின் தாயார் நோய்வாய்ப்படுவார்கள். குடும்பத்தில் கஷ்டங்களும் நஷ்டங்களும் ஏற்படும். வருமானத்தைவிட செலவு அதிகமாகும்.

நான்காம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 4 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் நிலபுலங்கள் வீடு வாசல் மாடு கன்றுகள் பால்பாக்கியம்இ கல்வியில் திறமை கீர்த்தி வண்டி வாகனங்கள் முதலியவற்றுடன் வாழ்வான். எல்லாரும் மரியாதையுடன் இவர்களிடம் பழகுவார்கள். நண்பர்கள் இவரின் புகழ் பேசுவார்கள். பெண் சுகம் நிரம்ப பெற்றும். பெண்களின் சொத்துக்களை பெற்றும் விளங்குவார்கள். இவர்களில் நல்ல சுகபோகங்களுடன், செல்வாக்குடன் விளங்குவார்கள்.

நான்காம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 5 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் நல்ல புத்திரங்களை உடையவனகாவும் வண்டி வாகனங்கள் பெற்றவனாகவும் லாபங்களை உடையவனகாவும் சமூகத்தில் நல்ல அந்தஸ்தோடு வாழ்வார்கள்.

நான்காம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 6 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் சுக சௌகர்யங்களை இழந்தவனாகவும்,தாயிடமும் தாயார் வழிகளிலும் விரோதங்களை கொண்டவனாகவும், பூர்வீக சொத்துக்களை இலந்தவனாகவும்,சண்டை சச்சரவுகளில் செலவு செய்பவனாவும் வியாதி உடையவனாகவும் இருப்பார்கள்.

நான்காம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 7 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் நல்ல பலமாக இருந்தால் தாயார் மாமன் வழியில் மனைவி வருவாள். வருமானமும் செலவும் சரிசமாக இருந்து வரும். வீடு மாறி மாறி குடி இருக்கும் படி இருக்கும் வாகனங்கள் அடிக்கடி மாற்ற வேண்டும் மனைவியின் போக்கின் படி ஜாதகர் நடப்பர்.

நான்காம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 8 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் தாயார் ஏழை வீட்டில் பிறந்தவராக இருப்பார். தாய்வழி ஆதரவு குறைந்து இருக்கும் வறுமையும் அவமானங்களும் நிறைந்து காணப்படும்.

நான்காம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 9 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் நிலபுலங்கள் வீடு வாகனங்கள் பால் பாக்கியம் நிறைந்து இருக்கும். தகனப்பாரின் அன்பை பெற்றவராக இருப்பார்கள். தெய்வ வழிபாடு நிறைந்து காணப்படும்.

நான்காம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 10 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் பூமி சம்பந்தமான பொருள்களால் லாபத்தை பெறுவார்கள். தொழில் பலம் நிறைந்து காணப்படும். பெரிய அந்தஷ்து உள்ளவர்களிடம் தொடர்பு ஏற்படு்ம். செல்வம், செல்வாக்கு, கீர்த்தி பெற்று விளங்குவான்.

நான்காம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 11 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் சுகங்கள் நிறைந்தவனாகவும் பூமி வியாபாரங்கள் மூலம் நல்ல லாபம் ஏற்படும் தாயாருக்கு உடலில் நோய் ஏற்படும்.

நான்காம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 12 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் சுகங்கள் அற்றவனாகவும் சொந்தங்கள் ஆதரவு இல்லாமாலும் இருப்பான். வறுமை மிகுந்து காணப்படும். சொந்த நிலம்கள் விரையம் ஏற்படும். மொத்தத்தில் சிரம வாழ்க்கை நடத்தும்படி இருக்கும்.

இத்துடன் நான்காம் வீட்டின் காரத்துவம் முடிந்தது.

aanaa

23rd January 2012, 03:09 AM

source: http://astrovanakam.blogspot.com/2010/09/blog-post_09.html

ஐந்தாம் வீடு

இதை புத்திர ஸ்தானம் என்று அழைப்பார்கள். இதைப் பூர்வ
புண்ணிய ஸ்தானம் என்றும் அழைக்கல்லாம். அதாவது போன ஜென்மத்தில் ஒருவர்
நல்லது செய்தவரா இல்லையா என்று இந்த வீட்டைக் கொண்டு முடிவு செய்யலாம்.
ஒருவருக்குக் குழந்தைகள் ௪ண்டா அல்லது இல்லயா என்றும் முடிவு செய்யலாம்.
ஒருவருக்குக் கலைத்துறையில் நாட்டம் இருக்கிறதா அல்லது இல்லயா என்பது பற்றியும்
இந்த வீட்டைக்கொண்டு முடிவு செய்யலாம். அதே போன்று, சினிமா, டிராமா,
லாட்டரி, குதிரைப்பந்தயம், ஆகியவற்றையும் இந்த வீடுதான் குறிக்கும். ஒருவர்
காதலித்துத் திருமணம் செய்வாரா இல்லையா என்பது பற்றியும் இந்த வீட்டைக்
கொண்டு முடிவு செய்யலாம். ஆன்மீக வாழ்க்கையையும் இந்த வீட்டைக் கொண்டு
தீர்மானம் செய்யலாம். வேதங்கள், மந்திரங்கள் ஆகியவற்றையும் இந்த வீட்டைக்
கொண்டு தீர்மானம் செய்யலாம்.
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இப்பொழுது நாம் ஐந்தாம் வீட்டைப்பற்றி பார்க்கலாம் ஐந்தாம் வீடு புத்திர ஸ்தானம் எனப்படுகிறது.
ஐந்தாம் வீட்டு மூலம் குழந்தை பிறப்பு, பூர்வ புண்ணிய பலன்கள், வித்தை, எண்ணங்கள், கல்வியில் திறமை, மஹான்களின் சந்திப்பு, பதவி உயர்வு, குலதெய்வம் வழிபாடு ஆகியவற்றை காணமுடியும்.
இப்பொழுது ஐந்தாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி ஒவ்வொரு வீட்டில் இருந்தால் என்ன பலன் என்று பார்க்கலாம்.

ஐந்தாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 1 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் குழந்தை பாக்கியம் பெற்றவனாகவும் அந்த குழந்தைகள் நல்ல பெயர் பெற்று நலமுடன் வாழும். மஹான்களிடம் ஆசி பெறுவான் அரசாங்கத்திலும் மக்களிடம் நல்ல பெயர் பெற்று விளங்குவான்.

ஐந்தாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 2 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் பிள்ளைகளால் தனம் சந்தோஷம் நிறைந்து இருக்கும் பக்தி விசுவாசத்துடன் பிள்ளைகள் இருப்பார்கள் கல்வியில் தேர்ச்சி நல்ல அறிவுடன் இருப்பார்கள். பிள்ளைகளால் நல்ல வருமானம் குடும்பத்திற்க்கு கிடைக்கும்.

ஐந்தாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 3 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் புத்திரதோஷம் உண்டாகும். புராணங்கள்இ சாஸ்திரங்கள் மீது ஈடுபாடு இருக்கும். பிள்ளைகளால் ந்ன்மை ஏற்படாது.

ஐந்தாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 4 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் புத்திரதோஷம் ஏற்படும் வண்டி வாகனம்இ நிலபுலங்கள் கிடைக்கும். பெரிய மனிதர் தொடர்பு கிடைக்கும்.
குடும்பத்தை கௌருவத்துடன் நடத்துபவராக இருப்பார்.

ஐந்தாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 5 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் புத்திரர்கள் உயர் பதவிகளில் இருப்பார்கள் படித்த அறிவாளிகளின் சமூகத்திலும் சுற்றத்திலும் வாழ்க்கை நடத்துவார்கள் கல்வியில் நல்ல ஞானம் இருக்கும். அரசாங்கத்தில் உயர்பதவிகள் வசிப்பார்கள். ஐந்தாம் வீட்டில் சுபகிரங்கள் சேர்க்கை ஏற்பட்டால் ராஜயோகம் ஏற்படும்.

ஐந்தாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 6 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் புத்திரதோஷம் ஏற்படும். புத்திர பாக்கியம் ஏற்பட்டாலும் எதிரிகளாக மாறுவார்கள். புத்திரர்களால் நன்மையே லாபமே ஏற்படாது. இவர்களுக்கு ஞாபசக்தி குறைவு. பெரியவர்களிடம் விரோதம் ஏற்படும்.

ஐந்தாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 7 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் புத்திரதோஷம் ஏற்படும். திருமணவாழ்க்கை நன்றாக இருக்காது. மனைவியின் குடும்பத்தாரால் மனஅமைதி குழையும்.

ஐந்தாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 8 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் புத்திரதோஷம் ஏற்படும் சிரமமாக குடும்பத்தை நடத்துவார். நல்ல வருமானம் இருக்காது.

ஐந்தாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 9 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் புத்திர விருத்தி இருக்கும். புத்திரர்களால் சந்தோஷங்களும் சுகமும் ஏற்படும். கல்வியில் பிரகாசத்துடன் விளங்குவார்கள். தெய்வீக வழிபாடுகளில் பற்றுதலுடன் இருப்பார்கள் .

ஐந்தாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 10 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் நல்ல புத்திர பாக்கியம் ஏற்படும் அரசாங்கத்தில் உயர் பதவிகளில் இருப்பார்கள். மதங்களை பரப்புவதில் ஆர்வம் இருக்கும். புத்திரர்களால் நல்ல தொழில்கள் அமையும்.

ஐந்தாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 11 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் நல்ல புத்திர பாக்கியம் ஏற்படும் குடும்பம் அமைதியும் சந்தோஷத்தையும் அடையும். பெரிய மனிதர்களின் அன்பும் ஆதரவும் கிடைக்கும். அரசாங்க ஆதரவு கிடைக்கும்.

ஐந்தாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 12 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் மனைவிக்கு அடிக்கடி கர்ப்ப சிதைவு ஏற்படும். நண்பர்கள் ஒற்றுமையுடன் இருக்கமாட்டார்கள். குடும்பம் அமைதி இல்லாமல் இருக்கும்.

aanaa

23rd January 2012, 03:13 AM

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ஆறாம் வீடு

கடன்,வியாதி, ௪ண்ணும் ௪ணவு , வேலை செய்யும் இடம்,
ஒருவருடைய வேலைக்காரர்கள் ஆகிய வற்றையும் இந்த வீட்டைக் கொண்டு
சொல்லலாம். கவலைகள், துக்கங்கள் தாய் மாமன் ஆகியவற்றைக் குறிப்பது இந்த
வீடு தான். ௪தாரணமாக ஒருவருக்குக் கன்னியா லக்கினம் எனக் கொள்ளுங்கள்.
லக்கினாதிபதி புதன் 6-ம் வீடான கும்பத்தில் இருக்கிறார் எனக் கொள்ளுங்கள்.
புதன் 1-ம் வீட்டிற்கு அதிபத்யாகி 6-ம் வீட்டில் இருக்கிறார். அவர் ௪டல்
நிலையில் நிச்சயமாகக் கோளாறு இருக்கும். ஏனெனில் புதன் 1-ம் வீட்டையும் 6-ம்
வீட்டையும் குறிக்கிறார். ஆக இவர் ௪டலில் ஏதோகோளாரு இருக்கிறது எனக்
கொள்ள வேண்டும். சரி! 2-ம் வீட்டின் அதிபதி சுக்கிரன் 6-ம் வீட்டில்
இருக்கிறார் எனக் கொள்ளுங்கள். 6-ம் வீடு Employment என்று சொல்லுகின்ற
வேலையைக் குறிக்கிறது. 2-ம் வீடு தனத்தைக் குறிக்கிறது. ஆகவே இவர்
வேலைக்குச் சென்று பணம் சம்பாதிப்பர் எனக் கொள்ளலாம். இவ்வாறாக 6
ஒ வீட்டிலுள்ள கிரகம் மற்ற வீட்டுடன் சம்பந்தம் கொண்டுள்ளதோ அதை வைத்து
பலன் சொல்ல வேண்டும்
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இப்பொழுது நாம் ஆறாம் வீட்டை பற்றி பார்க்கலாம். ஆறாம் வீடு சத்ருஸ்தானம் ரோக ஸ்தானம் ஆகும். கடன், வியாதி பகைவர்களின் தொல்லை, சிறைபடுதல், விரோதங்கள், விஷபீடைகள், திருட்டுப்போதல் ஆகியவற்றைப் பற்றி ஆறாம் வீட்டின் மூலம் நாம் அறியலாம்.

இப்பொழுது ஆறாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி ஒவ்வொரு வீட்டில் இருந்தால் என்ன பலன் என்று பார்க்கலாம்.

ஆறாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 1 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் சதா வியாதிகளும் நோய் நொடிகளும் இருக்கும் தைரியமில்லாதவராகவும் எதிரிகளால் தொல்லை இருந்துகொண்டே இருக்கும்.

ஆறாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 2 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் வாக்குவன்மை இருக்காது நல்ல பேச்சு இருக்காது. அதிகமாக கடன்களை வாங்கி செலவு செய்வார்கள். கல்வி வராது. கண் கோளாறு இருக்கும்.

ஆறாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 3 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் சகோதர சகோதரிகள் விரோதிகளாக இருப்பார்கள். குடும்பத்தில் ஒற்றுமை இருக்காது.

ஆறாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 4 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் தாயாருடைய உடல் நலம் பாதிக்கப்படும் நிலம் வீடுகள் இருந்தாலும் வருமானம் இருக்காது. கடன்களால் அந்த சொத்துக்களை விற்க வேண்டிய நிலை ஏற்படும்.

ஆறாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 5 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் புத்திரதோஷம் ஏற்படும். கடன் தொல்லைகள் அதிகமாகும் எல்லோரும் சண்டை செய்பவராகவும் இருப்பார்கள் சிறைவாசம் வறுமை ஆகியவற்றை அனுபவகிக்க வேண்டும். பிறரை ஏமாற்றி பிழைப்பை நடத்துவார்கள்.

ஆறாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 6 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் கடன் தொல்லை படுத்தி எடுத்துவிடும். சுபகிரகங்கள் பார்வை ஏற்படின் எதிரி மூலம் சம்பாத்தியம் இருக்கும்.

ஆறாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 7 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் இல்லற வாழ்க்கை கசக்கும். இருவருக்கும் விவாகரத்துவரை கொண்டுவிடும். மனம் அமைதி இருக்காது.

ஆறாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 8 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் எட்டாம் வீட்டில் வறுமைகள் நிறைந்து காணப்படும். குடும்பத்தில் உள்ள பொருட்களை விற்று குடும்பம் நடத்தவேண்டி வரும்.

ஆறாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 9 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் தந்தை வழி சொத்து நாசமாகும். பிறர் ஏமாற்றி விடுவார்கள். பாபகாரியங்கள் செய்ய அஞ்சமாட்டார்கள். பெரியவர்களுடன் சண்டை ஏற்படும்.

ஆறாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 10 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் அவன் சம்பாதிக்கும் வழி திருட்டுதனமாக இருக்கும். பிறர் பொருளையே நம்பி இருப்பான். ஊர் சுற்றி திரிவான். மக்கள் மனதில் அயோக்கியன் என்று பெயர் எடுப்பான். சுபகிரகம் பார்வை ஏற்படின் அனைத்திலும் வெற்றி பெருவான்.

ஆறாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 11 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் மூத்த சகோதர்கள் வியாதியுடன் இருப்பார்கள் கடன் இருக்கும். சிலபேருக்கு விரோதிகள் மூலம் லாபம் இருக்கும்.

ஆறாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி 12 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் எதிரிகளால் அடிக்கடி இடமாற்றம் ஏற்படும. அனாவசியமான செலவு இருக்கும. குறியில் நோய் ஏற்படும்.

aanaa

23rd January 2012, 03:14 AM

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ஏழாம் வீடு

திருமணத்தைக் குறிக்கும் வீடு இதுதான். வியாபாரத்தைக்
குறிக்கும் வீடும் இது தான். ஒருவர் மரணத்தைக் குறிக்கும் வீடும் இது தான்.
பிரயாணத்தைக் குறிக்கும் வீடும் இது தான். ஒருவர் ஜாதகத்தில் 7-ம் வீட்டில்
சனி இருக்கிறது எனக் கொள்ளுங்கள். சனிதான் எதையும் தாமதப் படுத்துபவர்
ஆயிற்றே! ஆக இவருக்குத் திருமணம் தாமதம் ஆகும் எனக் கூறலாம். ௪தாரணமாக
கடக லக்கினக்காரர் ஒருவருக்கு 7-ம் இடமான மகரத்தில் சனி இருக்கிறது எனக்
கொள்வோம். சனியானவர் 7-ம் வீட்டிற்கும், 8-ம் வீட்டிற்கும் அதிபதி. 7-ல்
இருக்கிறார். அவர் திருமணத்தைத் தாமதப் படுத்துவதோடு சில சங்கடங்களையும்
திருமணத்திற்குப் பிறகு கொடுப்பார். ஏனெனில் சனி 8-ம் வீட்டிற்கும்
அதிபதியல்லவா! சரி! சனிக்குப் பதிலாக 6-ம் வீடு, 9-ம் வீட்டிற்கு அதிபதியாகிய
குரு இருக்கிறார் எனக் கொள்ளுங்கள். திருமண வாழ்வு எப்படி இருக்கும்?
6-ம் வீடு என்பது 7-ம் வீட்டிற்குப் 12-ம் வீடு அல்லவா! திருமண வாழ்வு
சுகப்படாது. பிரச்சனைகள் நிறைந்ததாக இருக்கும்
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ஏழாம் வீட்டைப்பற்றி இப்பொழுது பார்க்கலாம். ஏழாம் வீட்டின் கிரக குணங்களை கொண்டு எப்படி பட்ட கணவன் அல்லது மனைவி வருவாள் என்று கூறலாம். ஆசை சொத்துக்கள் சேர்க்கை , மரணம் ஆகியவற்றை கூறலாம்.

இப்பொழுது ஏழாம் வீட்டின் அதிபதி ஒவ்வொரு வீட்டின் இருந்தால் என்ன பலன் என்று பார்க்கலாம்.

ஏழாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி லக்கினத்தில் இருந்தால் அவன் கவர்ச்சி கொண்டவனாக இருப்பான். அவனிடம் பெண்கள் அன்பு வைத்து இருப்பார்கள் பாபகாரியகள் அறியாது காமகாரியங்கள் செய்வான். இவர்களுக்கு மனைவியின் மூலம் வருமானம் இருக்கும்.

ஏழாவது வீட்டின் கிரகம் இரண்டாம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் மனைவியின் மூலம் சொத்துக்கள் வரும். மனைவியின் மூலம் சம்பாத்தியம் இருக்கும். மனைவியின் மூலமும் உறவினர்கள் மூலமும் உதவி இருக்கும்.

ஏழாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் மூன்றாம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் களத்திரதோஷம் மனைவிக்கு மாரகம் ஏற்பட்டு மறு விவாகம் செய்துக்கொள்ளவும் கூடும். அதைப்போல் அதிகமாக காமமோ பற்று இருக்காது.

ஏழாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் நான்காம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் அமர்ந்திருந்தால் எதிர்பார்க்கும் இன்பத்தை அடைவான். குடும்பத்தை நடத்தும் பொறுப்பையும் யோக்கியத்தை அம்சங்களையும் அவனுக்கு வரும் மனைவி பெற்று இருப்பாள்.

ஏழாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் ஐந்தாம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் அவருக்கு களத்திர தோஷம் பெற்றவனா இருப்பான் சினிமா போன்றவற்றில் ஈடுபாடு இருப்பான். காதல் மணம் முடிப்பான் ஆனால் திருமணவாழ்க்கை நன்றாக இருக்காது.

ஏழாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் ஆறாம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் மனைவி வியாதிகள் கொண்டவளாக இருப்பாள். கணவனக்காக எதிராக கலகங்கள் விரோதங்கள் செய்வாள் மனைவியினால் ஆதரவு இருக்காது.

ஏழாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் ஏழாவது வீட்டில் இருந்தால் ஜhதகன் மனைவியின்
வீட்டில் அடிமையாக இருப்பான் மனைவியின் செல்வாக்கு அதிகமாக இருக்கும்.

ஏழாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் எட்டாவது வீட்டில் இருந்தால் அவனக்கு வரும் மனைவியினால் அவன் கஷ்டங்களை வறுமைகளை அனுபவிப்பான். குடும்பத்தை ஓழுங்காக நடத்தும் பொறுப்பு அற்றவளாகவும் வீனான ஆசை கொண்டவளாகவும் வருமான குறைவுடனும் இருப்பாள்.

ஏழாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் ஓன்பதாம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் பெரியவர்களின் அனுக்கிரக்தாலும் பூர்வ புண்ணியத்தாலும் சிறு வயதில் திருமணம் நடைபெறும். குடும்பம் ஒற்றுமையுடன் இருக்கும்.

ஏழாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் பத்தாவது வீட்டில் இருந்தால் வரும் மனைவியால் சம்பாத்தியம் இருக்கும். சொத்துக்களும் நகைகளும் சேரும்.

ஏழாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் பதினேராவது வீட்டில் இருந்தால் நல்ல செல்வத்துடன் சொத்துகளுடனும் மனைவி வருவாள். மனைவியினால் அந்தஸ்துடன் மனைவி வருவாள். மனைவியினால் கணவனின் அந்தஸ்து உயரும்.

ஏழாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் பன்னிரேண்டாம் வீட்டில் அமர்ந்தால் மனைவியினால் அதிகமான தன சேதங்கள் ஏற்படும். மனைவி இன்ப வாழ்க்கை வாழ ஆசைபடுவாழ். கடன்கள் வாங்கியும் சொத்துக்கள் விற்றும் குடும்பத்தை நடத்த வேண்டி இருக்கும்.

aanaa

23rd January 2012, 03:14 AM

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எட்டாம் வீடு

ஒருவரின் ஆயுளைக் குறிக்கும் வீடு இது தான். பிதுரார்ஜித
சொத்துக்கள், ௪யில்கள், இன்ஷ்ஷ¤ரன்ஸ், கிராட்டுவிட்டி, போனஸ் ஆகியவைகளைக்
குறிக்கும் வீடு இதுதான். ஒருவர் மரணம் இயற்கையானதா அல்லது துர்மரணமா
என்பதையும் இந்த வீட்டைக் கொண்டு அறியலாம். துன்பம், துக்கம், தோல்வி,
தண்டனை, தடைகள், ஜெயில் தண்டனை, இவைகளையும் அறியும் வீடு இதுதான்.
இந்த வீட்டை "துஸ்தானம்" எனக் கூறுவர்கள். 8-ம் வீட்டில் சனி இருந்தால் ஒருவருக்கு
தீர்க்காயுசு எனக் கொள்ளலாம். குரு இருந்தாலும் தீர்க்காயுசு எனக் கொள்ளலாம்.
பொதுவாக 8-ம் வீட்டில் ௪ள்ள கிரகங்களோ, அல்லது 8-ம் வீட்டிற்கு அதிபதியோ
தங்கள் தசா, புக்திகளில் நல்லதைச் செய்யாதென்பது பலரின் அபிப்பிராயம்.
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எட்டாவது வீட்டைக்கொண்டு ஆயுளை நிர்ணயிக்க வேண்டும். எட்டாவது வீடு மறைவு ஸ்தானம் என்று அழைக்கப்படுகிறது. ஒருவருக்கு மரணம் இயற்கையானதாக வருமா அல்லது துர்மரணமா என்று பார்பதற்க்கும் எட்டாம் வீட்டை வைத்துதான் பார்க்கவேண்டும். ஒருவரின் துன்பங்கள் தடைகள் தோல்விகள் வாழ்க்கையில் படபோகிற கஷ்டங்கள் ஆகியவற்றையும் எட்டாம் வீட்டை வைத்து சொல்லலாம்.மூதாயர்களின் சொத்து உயில்கள் இன்ஷீரன்ஸ். பிராவிடண்ட் பண்டு ஆகியவற்றையும் எட்டாம் வீட்டைக்கொண்டே பார்க்க வேண்டும். பெண்களுக்கு எட்டாம் வீடு மிகவும் முக்கியம் அவர்களின் மாங்கல்ய பாக்கியம் எட்டாம் வீட்டை கொண்டே கணிக்க முடியும்.

இப்பொழுது எட்டாம் வீட்டின் அதிபதி ஒவ்வொரு வீட்டிலும் இருந்தால் என்ன பலன் என்று பார்க்கலாம்.

எட்டாம் அதிபதி லக்னத்தில் இருந்தால் அதாவது முதல் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் கடன் வறுமை வியாதிகளுடன் இருப்பான்.

எட்டாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் இரண்டாம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் வாக்கில் நாணயம் இருக்காது. துர்வார்த்தை உபயோகிப்பார்கள் குடும்பத்தில் சந்தோஷம் இருக்காது. உடல் பலம் குறைந்து காணப்படும். பைத்தியம் பிடித்தவன் போல் இருப்பார்கள்.

எட்டாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் 3 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் சகோதரர்கள் ஒற்றுமை இருக்காது. தைர்யம் குறைந்து காணப்படும். மனதில் ஒரு வித பயம் இருந்து கொண்டே இருக்கும். பெரியவர்களால் சேர்த்துவைக்கப்பட்ட சொத்துக்கள் பலவிதங்களில் நாசமாகும்.

எட்டாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் 4 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் தாயாரும் தாய்வழிமாமன் முதலானவர்களின் ஆதரவு இருக்காது. குடும்பத்தில் சதா சச்சரவுகள் தோன்றும். சிரமாக குடும்பத்தை நடத்தவேண்டி வரும். முன்னோர்களின் சொத்துக்கள் அழியும்.

எட்டாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் 5 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் புத்திரர்களால் மன அமைதி இல்லாமலும் சதா பிரச்சினைகளுமாக இருக்கும். உடல் நோய் இருந்து வரும். பிள்ளைகளுடன் விரோதம் இருந்துவரும்.

எட்டாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் 6 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் உடல் நலிந்து கெட்ட எண்ணங்கள் கொண்டவனாகவும் தந்திரவானகவும் பகைவர்களை வெல்ல கூடியவனாகவும் இருப்பான்.

எட்டாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் 7 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் மனைவியை சதா சண்டை போட்டுக்கொண்டும் மனைவியால் கலகம். மனைவி அற்ப ஆயுள் உள்ளவராகவும் இருப்பார்கள்.

எட்டாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் 8 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் கஷ்டப்பட்டு வாழ்க்கையை நடத்துவான் நன்மை தீமை அறியாது நினைத்த மாத்திரத்தில் ஏதாவது செய்துவிட்டு அவமானத்தையும் அலைச்சல்களை அடைவான்.

எட்டாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் 9 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் தந்தை சொத்துக்கள் நாசமாகும் பிள்ளைகளால் கடன் ஏற்படும். நண்பர்களிடம் விரோதம் ஏற்படும்.

எட்டாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் 10 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் வேலையில் ஒழுங்காக இருக்கமாட்டார்கள். அடிக்கடி வேலையை மாற்றிக்கொண்டே இருப்பார்கள். அரசாங்கத்தில் கெட்ட பெயர் எடுப்பார்கள்.

எட்டாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் 11 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் மூத்த சகோதர்கள் சகோதரிகளுக்கு கண்டம் குழந்தைகளால் வருமானம் ஏற்படும்.

எட்டாம் வீட்டு கிரகம் 12 ம் வீட்டில் எப்பொழுதும் ஊர் சுற்றும் குணம் ஏற்படும். வண்பு வழக்குகள் ஏற்படும். இன்பசுகம் ஏற்பட்டு கையில் உள்ள பணத்தை இழப்பார்கள்.

aanaa

23rd January 2012, 03:15 AM

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ஒன்பதாம் வீடு

தகப்பனர், போன ஜென்மத்தில் ஒருவர் செய்த பூர்வ ஜென்ம
புண்ணியங்கள், பாபங்கள், நீண்ட பயணம், தெய்வ தரிசனம் செய்தல், ௪யர்கல்வி,
முன்பின் தெரியாதவர்கள்,ஆகியவற்றைக் குறிப்பது இந்த வீடு தான். ௪தாரணமாக
9-ம் வீட்டில் ஒருவருக்கு சனி, செவ்வாய் போன்ற பாப கிரகங்கள் இருக்கிறது
எனக் கொள்ளுவோம். நிச்சயமாக அவருக்குத் தகப்பனார் அனுசரணையாக
இருக்க மாட்டார். 9-ம் வீட்டைத் தவிர சூரியனின் நிலையையும் நாம் கணக்கில்
எடுத்துக் கொள்ள வேண்டும். ஏனென்றால் சூரியன் பிதுர்காரகனல்லவா? 9-ம்
வீட்டில் பாப கிரகங்கள் இருக்குமேயாகில் அந்த வீட்டின் காரகத்துவங்கள் எல்லாம்
கெட்டு விடும்.
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ஒன்பதாவது வீட்டின் பலன் பிதுருக்கள் தகப்பனார் உயர்கல்வி முன்பின் தெரியாதவர்கள், தெய்வதரிசனம் போன ஜென்மத்து அதிர்ஷ்டம்,ஒருவர் செய்யும் தர்மம், நீண்ட தூர பயணம் அதாவது வெளிநாடு ஆகியவற்றை பற்றி தெரிவிப்பது இந்த வீடுதான்.

ஒன்பதாவது வீட்டுக்கிரகம் லக்கினத்தில் இருந்தால் அதாவது முதல் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் பெரியவர்களிடம் பிதா, குரு, தெய்வம் ஆகியவற்றுகளிடம் பிரியத்தை கொண்டவர்களாகவும் தான தர்மங்கள் செய்வர்களாகவும் இருப்பார்கள். பிதுர் சொத்துக்கள் கிடைக்கும்.

ஒன்பதாவது வீட்டு அதிபதி 2 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் செல்வாக்குடன் முன்னோர்கள் சொத்துக்களை பெற்றவராகவும் இருப்பார்கள். அயல்நாட்டு மூலம் பணவரவு இருக்கும்.

ஒன்பதாவது வீட்டு அதிபதி 3 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் இளைய சகோதர சகோதரிகளின் ஆதரவு இருக்கும். பிதுர் தோஷம் பெற்றவனாக இருப்பான்.

ஒன்பதாவது வீட்டு அதிபதி 4 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் தாயின் ஆதரவு இருக்கும். வண்டி வாகனம் சொத்துக்கள் கிடைக்கும்.

ஒன்பதாவது வீட்டு அதிபதி 5 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் புத்திரர்கள் சகல பாக்கியத்துடன் இருப்பார்கள் அரசாங்கத்தில் பெரியபதவி கிடைக்கும. தெய்வீக வழிபாடுகள் நிறைந்து காணப்படும்.

ஒன்பதாவது வீட்டு அதிபதி 6 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் வெளிநாட்டு பயணம் கிட்டும். தந்தையின் உடல்நிலை பாதிக்கும் . முன்னோர்களின் சொத்துக்கள் கடன்களிலால் அழியும்.

ஒன்பதாவது வீட்டு அதிபதி 7 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் நல்ல தெய்வபக்தியுள்ள பெண்கிடைக்கும் அந்நிய பெண் கிடைக்கும். வெளிநாடு செல்ல வாய்ப்பு வரும். தந்தையின் சொத்துக்களால் பயன் பெறுவார்கள்.

ஒன்பதாவது வீட்டு அதிபதி 8 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் தந்தையாரின் உடல் நிலை பாதிக்ககூடும். தந்தையார் இறந்து போக வாய்ப்பு உண்டு. புத்திர தோஷம் ஏற்படும்.

ஒன்பதாவது வீட்டு அதிபதி 9 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் தகப்பனார் நீண்ட ஆயுள் உடன் இருப்பார். தகப்பனாரின் சொத்துகள் கிடைக்கும். தான தர்மங்கள் குடும்பத்தில் நிறைந்து விளங்கும்.

ஒன்பதாவது வீட்டு அதிபதி 10 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் அரசாங்கத்தில் உயர் பதவியில் இருப்பார். தந்தையாரின் சொத்துக்கள் விருத்தி ஆகும். பெரியவர்களிடத்தில் மரியாதையாக இருப்பார்கள்.

ஒன்பதாவது வீட்டு அதிபதி 11 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் தெய்வகாரியங்கள் வீட்டில் நடைபெறும். தந்தையால் லாபம் இருக்கும் அயல்நாட்டு தொடர்பு மூலம் வருமானம் கிடைக்கும்.

ஒன்பதாவது வீட்டு அதிபதி 12 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் தந்தையாருக்கு கெடுதல் உண்டாகும். வெளிநாட்டு பயணம் கிடைக்கும். தந்தையாரின் சொத்துகள் நிலைக்காது.

ஒன்பதாவது வீட்டில் பாவக்கிரகங்கள் இருந்தால் பித்ரு தோஷம் ஏற்படும்.

பரிகாரம்

இராமேஸ்வரத்தில் திலா ஹோமம் செய்ய வேண்டும். மாத அமாவாசை விரதம் இருக்க வேண்டும். அமாவாசை அன்று பசு மாட்டிற்க்கு அகத்திகீரை கொடுக்கவேண்டும். வாழ்வில் ஒருமுறையாவது இராமேஸ்வரம், காசி சென்றுவரவேண்டும்.

aanaa

23rd January 2012, 03:16 AM

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பத்தாவது வீடு

ஒருவரின் ஜீவனம், கெளரவம், சபைகளில் முக்கியத்துவம்
ஆகியவற்றை 10-ம் வீட்டைக் கொண்டுதான் சொல்ல வேண்டும். தொழிலில்
முன்னேற்றம், பதவி ௪யர்வு ஆகியவற்றையும் இதைக் கொண்டேதான் சொல்ல வேண்டும்.
ஒருவருக்கு அரசியல் நல்லபடியாக இருக்குமா அல்லது இருக்காதா என்றும் இந்த
வீட்டைக் கொண்டுதான் சொல்ல வேண்டும். இதைக் கர்மஸ்தானம் என்றும் கூறுவார்கள்.
தாயார், தகப்பனாருக்குச் செய்யும் கர்மங்களையும் இந்த வீட்டைக் கொண்டுதான்
சொல்ல வேண்டும். ஒருவரின் எஜமானர், அரசாங்கம் இவைகளையும் இந்த வீடுதான்
குறிக்கிறது.
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பத்தாவது வீடு ஜீவனஸ்தானம் மற்றும் கர்மஸ்தானம் எனப்படும். ஒருவருக்கு எப்படி பட்ட தொழில் அமையும் என்று பார்ப்பதற்க்கு இந்த வீட்டை வைத்துதான் முடிவு செய்யபடவேண்டும். சோதிடம் எழுதப்பட்ட காலத்தில் குறைந்த தொழில்கள்தான் இருந்தன அதனால் தொழில்களை சிறிய முயற்சியில் கண்டுபிடித்துவிடலாம். ஆனால் இன்று நிறைய தொழில்கள் வந்துவிட்டன. அதனால் கண்டுபிடிப்பது கடினம்

பத்தாவது வீட்டு ஒவ்வொரு வீட்டிலும் இருந்தால் என்ன பலன் என்று இப்பொழுது பார்க்கலாம்.

பத்தாவது வீட்டு அதிபதி லக்கினத்தில் இருந்தால் அதாவது 1 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் சுயமுயற்சியால் முன்னேற்றம் காண்பார். செல்வம் சொத்துக்கள் கல்வி தான தருமங்களுடன் அரசாங்கத்தில் உயர்பதவிகளில் இருப்பார். நல்ல நண்பர்கள் கிடைப்பார்கள்.

பத்தாவது வீட்டு அதிபதி 2 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் நல்ல அழகுடனும் வாக்குவன்மை திறம்பட பேசும் சக்தி செல்வ செழிப்புடனும் இருப்பார்கள். சொத்துகள் கிடைக்கும் நல்ல நண்பர்கள் அமைவார்கள்.

பத்தாவது வீட்டு அதிபதி 3 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் சகோதர தோஷம் ஏற்படும். சகோதரர்கள் இருந்தாலும் செல்வாக்குடன் இருக்கமாட்டார்கள்.

பத்தாவது வீட்டு அதிபதி 4 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் அழகான வீடு, செல்வ செழிப்பான வாழ்க்கை தாய் வழி ஆதரவு முதலியன உண்டாகும். வண்டி வாகனம் அமையும். பூமியிலிருந்து புதையில் போன்றவை கிடைக்கும்.

பத்தாவது வீட்டு அதிபதி 5 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் புத்திரபாக்கியம் அமையும் சந்தோஷ செல்வாக்குடன் கூடின வாழ்க்கை அமையும். பெரியமனிதர்களின் நட்பை பெறுவார்கள் அரசாங்கத்தில் உயர் பதவிகளில் இருப்பார்கள்.

பத்தாவது வீட்டு அதிபதி 6 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் பிறர் பொருளை அபகரிக்கும் குணம் இருக்கும். உடம்பு மெலிந்தாக இருக்கும்.

பத்தாவது வீட்டு அதிபதி 7 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் களத்திர தோஷம் ஏற்படும் மனைவி ஒற்றுமையுடன் இருக்கமாட்டாள். மனைவி மூலம் பொருள் சேரும்.

பத்தாவது வீட்டு அதிபதி 8 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் நல்ல ஆயுள் உண்டு. புத்திர தோஷம் ஏற்படும். மனைவியுடன் திருப்தியான சந்தோஷங்களில் ஈடுபட முடியாது.

பத்தாவது வீட்டு அதிபதி 9 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் தகப்பனாரின் சொத்துக்கள் விரயம் ஆகும். புத்திரவிருத்தி இருக்காது. சிரம வாழ்க்கைகளை அனுபவிக்கும்படி இருக்கும். தானதருமங்களிலும் ஈடுபாடு அதிகம் இருக்கும்.

பத்தாவது வீட்டு அதிபதி 10 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் பெரிய மனிதர்களின் ஆதரவு இருக்கும். உறவினர்களின் ஆதரவு இருக்கும். உலக விசயங்களில் நல்ல அறிவு இருக்கும்.

பத்தாவது வீட்டு அதிபதி 11 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் செய்யும் காரியங்களில் ஒவ்வொன்றிலும் லாபத்தை பெறுவார்கள். மூத்த சகோதர சகோதரிகள் கஷ்டத்தை அனுபவிப்பார்கள்.

பத்தாவது வீட்டு அதிபதி 12 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் பொருள் நஷ்டம் ஏற்படும். புத்திரர்களால் கஷ்டங்கள் ஏற்படும். அனாவசியமான செலவுகள் இருக்கும். சொத்துக்கள் அழியும்.

aanaa

23rd January 2012, 03:16 AM

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எந்த வீட்டில் இருந்தாலும் அந்த வீட்டிற்கு நல்லது எனக் கொள்ள வேண்டும்.
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பதினோராம் வீடு லாப ஸ்தானம் எனப்படும். ஒருவருடைய லாபம் மூத்த சகோதர சகோதரிகள் ஆகியவற்றைப் பற்றி கூறுவது பதினோராம் வீடு.

பதினோராம் வீட்டு அதிபதி ஒவ்வொரு வீட்டிலும் இருந்தால் என்ன பலன் என்று இப்பொழுது பார்க்கலாம்.

1 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் நல்ல லாபம் வரும் நல்ல படிப்பு வரும் எந்த தொழிலில் ஈடுபட்டாலும் நல்ல லாபங்களை பெறுவார்கள். நல்ல குடும்ப வாழ்க்கை அமையும்

2 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் நல்ல குடும்ப வாழ்க்கை அமையும். நல்ல வருமானம், செல்வாக்கு, அதிகாரம் கிடைக்கும்.

3 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் மூத்த சகோதர சகோதரிகளில் நல்ல நிலையில் இருப்பார்கள் . சகோதரர்களின் ஆதரவு கிடைக்கும்.

4 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் தெய்வீக வழியில் செல்பவராக இருப்பார்கள் நல்ல பணி ஆட்கள் கிடைப்பார்கள். வீடு வாகனத்துடன் சந்தோஷமாக குடும்ப வாழ்க்கை அனுபவிப்பார்கள்.

5 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் இவர்களின் புத்திரர்களால் நல்ல வருமானம் கிடைக்கும். இவர்கள் செய்யும் தொழில்களை இவர்களின் பிள்ளைகளும் செய்வார்கள். அரசாங்க ஆதரவு கிடைக்கும்.

6 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் செய்கின்ற தொழிலில் எதிரிகள் இருப்பார்கள் வரும் லாபம் எல்லாம் கடன் கட்டவே போய்விடும்.

7 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் மனைவியின் மூலம் லாபங்கள் வரும். திருமணத்திற்க்கு முன்பு ஏழையாக இருந்தவர்கள் திருமணத்திற்க்கு பின்பு நல்ல நிலையில் இருப்பார்கள். நல்ல யோகங்கள் அமையும். வண்டி வாகனம் அமையும்.

8 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் பல தொழில்கள் செய்ய மணம் ஈடுபடும். பல வழியில் பணம் செலவு செய்ய நேரிடும். கஷ்டத்துடனே வாழ்க்கை ஓடும்.

9 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் வண்டி வாகனம் வரும். அரசாங்கத்தில் நல்ல பெயர் கிடைக்கும். தந்தை செய்யும் தொழிலே இவர்களுக்கு கிடைக்கும் . பெரிய தொழில்கள் செய்து நல்ல லாபங்களை பெறுவார்.

10 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் நல்ல வேலையில் இருப்பார்கள். அமைதியான குடும்ப வாழ்க்கை அமையும். தெய்வீக அருள் நிறைந்து காணப்படுவார்கள்.

11 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் மூத்த சகோதர சகோதரிகளின் மூலம் லாபங்கள் வரும். மூத்த சகோதர்கள் நல்ல அந்தஸ்தோடு இருப்பார்கள்.

12 ஆம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் கடன் தொல்லைகள் வியாதிகள் ஏற்படும். செய்யும் தொழிலில் லாபங்கள் குறைந்து காணப்படும்.

aanaa

23rd January 2012, 03:17 AM

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12-வது வீடு:

இதை மோட்ச ஸ்தானம் என்று சொல்லுவார்கள். இதை
விரய ஸ்தானம் என்றும் சொல்லுவார்கள். நமக்கு வரக்கூடிய செலவுகள், நஷ்டங்கள்
எல்லாவற்றையும் இந்த வீட்டை வைத்தே சொல்லவேண்டும். துன்பம், பாவங்கள், வறுமை,
துரதிஷ்டம், ஆகியவையும் இந்த வீட்டை வைத்தே சொல்ல வேண்டும். மறைமுக
எதிரிகளையும் இந்த வீட்டை வைத்தே சொல்ல வேண்டும். ஒருவருக்கு ஜெயில் வாசம்,
௪ள்ளதா அல்லது இல்லையா என்பதையும் இந்த வீட்டை வைத்துத்தான் கூறவேண்டும்.
கடனைத் திருப்பிக் கொடுத்தலையும், முதலீடு செய்வதையும் இந்த வீட்டை வைத்துத்தான்
கூற வேண்டும்

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பன்னிரண்டாம் வீடு விரய ஸ்தானம் எனப்படும். மோட்ஷம் தரும் வீடும் இதுதான். நமக்கு வரக்கூடிய செலவுகள், நஷ்டங்கள், துன்பங்கள், பாவங்கள் வறுமை, துரதிஷ்டம ஆகியவைகளை இந்த வீட்டை வைத்து சொல்ல வேண்டும். ஒருவருக்கு ஜெயில் வாழ்க்கை உள்ளதா என்று இந்த வீட்டை வைத்துதான் சொல்ல வேண்டும். அதைப்போல் ஒருவர் தன்னலம் இல்லாது பிறர் நலனுக்காக செய்யும் சேவையை குறிக்கும் வீடு தான் இந்த பன்னிரண்டாம் வீடு. நாம் வளர்க்கும் செல்ல பிராணிகளைக் குறிப்பதும் இந்த வீடுதான். நாம் வாங்கிய கடனை திருப்பி தருவதும் இந்த வீடுதான். நம் உடம்பில் இடது கண், பாதங்களை குறிப்பதும் இந்த வீடுதான். தனிமையான வாழ்க்கையை குறிக்கும் வீடு பன்னிரண்டாம் வீடுதான்.

பன்னிரண்டாம் வீட்டு அதிபதி ஒவ்வொரு வீட்டிலும் இருந்தால் என்ன பலன் என்று இப்பொழுது பார்க்கலாம்.

1 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் நல்ல உணவுகளையும் நல்ல நித்திரையும் கொடுக்கும். நல்ல செலவு செய்து வசதி வாய்ப்புகளை பெறுவார்

2 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் பேச்சிற்க்கு மதிப்பு இருக்காது தனம் ஸ்தானத்தில் இருப்பதால் தன விரையம் ஏற்படும். தேவையில்லாத பேச்சுகளை பேசுவார்கள்

3 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் சொத்துகளை இழப்பார்கள் இளைய சகோதர சகோதரிகளால் செலவு ஏற்படும்.

4 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் சொந்தங்களால் செலவு ஏற்படும். நண்பர்களாலும் செலவு ஏற்படும். குடும்ப செலவினங்கள் அதிகமாக இருக்கும்.

5 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் மூத்த சகோதரர்களால் விரயம் ஏற்படும். ஆலய திருப்பணிகள், பெரிய மனிதர்கள் பிள்ளைகளால் செலவு வரும்.

6 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் வியாதிகள் ஏற்படும். அதனால் மருத்துவனையில் சேர்ந்து செலவு செய்ய நேரிடும். பொருள் நஷ்டம் ஏற்படும்.

7 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் மனைவி வழியில் அதிக செலவினங்கள் ஏற்படும், காமத்தால் செலவினங்கள் ஏற்படும்.

8 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் சண்டைகள் ஏற்பட்டு அதனால் வழக்குகள் வந்து செலவு செய்ய நேரிடும். உடல் நோய் ஏற்பட்டு அதனால் செலவு ஏற்படும்.

9 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் தகனப்பனாரின் சொத்துக்களை விற்க்க நேரிடும். சகோதரர்களால் நஷ்டமும் கஷ்டமும் ஏற்படும்.

10 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் செய்கின்ற தொழிலில் முடக்கம் ஏற்படும். தொழிலில் வருமானம் இல்லாது போதும். தொழில் கை விட்டு போகும்.

11 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் தான் தருமங்களில் செலவு ஏற்படும். மூத்த சகோதரர்களால் நஷ்டமும் செலவும் ஏற்படும்.

12 ம் வீட்டில் இருந்தால் உடல் நிலை சரியாக இருக்காது. நல்ல நித்திரை ஏற்படும். சொத்துக்கள் விரையமாகும்.

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