Raga of Hindi songs

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Topic started by Vidhya (vidhyapk@hotmail.com) (@ 206.216.1.3) on Wed Nov 8 14:48:31 .


This thread is similar to the famous ROS Thread in tfmpage. <a href="http://tfmpage.com/forum/ros.html
" target="new">http://tfmpage.com/forum/ros.html </a>
This thread is to discuss the base-Raagam (carnatic/hindhustani) behind hindhi songs.

Based on the discussions we can build a raagam database for Hindhi songs.

Nandri.


Lists on the web:
List 1 (http://www.asavari.org/songs.html), List 2 (www.sudeepaudio.com/filmsongs.htm)

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Starting with Abheri.
(1) KangaL engae
http://63.248.118.218/songs/ppp/ps_solos/kangal_enge.rm

(2)Yeh Zindagi usee ki hai
http://209.207.247.131/cgi-bin/tssongs/load.cgi?f=oldies/a/anarkali/YehZindagiUsikiHai.rm&l=1&i=2437&d=1

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Other Abheri songs (BTW, could it be bHimpalasi too?) in Hindi - nainOn mE badhraa cHaayE (by Latha), Mehdi Hassan's ghazal - Zindagi mE thO sabHi pyaar kiyaa karthE hain.

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RaajaG: rt ! Bhimplas and Abheri are the same.
The link lists equivalent ragas in the
Carnatic and Hindusthani traditions.
http://www.aoe.vt.edu/~boppe/MUSIC/RAGA/hc.html

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one Abheri - "kahthaa hai meraa yeh dil piyaa" Jeans
("kaNNodu kaaNbadheelam")

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Tu milae dhil khilae aur jeenE ko kya chAhiyE- from movie: Criminal.
Sounds AbhEri..

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I believe the old classic "prabhu tErO naam" from Hum Dono and
the recent "kismat se tum humko milE hO" from Pukar are also in Bhim Palasi.

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Nalini,'Allah tero naam' starts in 'Gaud Sarang' and moves to Hari Kambhoji (kamaj thaat) in the charanam (reminding me of 'DheerE DheerE machal Aye dil-e-bequaraar' here ) ,ends with traversing the Karaharapriya notes and hence the resemblance to Abheri here. 'yeh zindagi usi ki hai' is predominantly in Bhimplasi with d1 also in the pallavi.
'nainOn mE badhraa chhaayE ' is a blatant lift by Madan Mohan from a Telugu Rajeswara Rao composition sung by S.Janaki. I will get back with the pallavi of the song. The telugu song sounds carnatic-ish and the Hindi version has been cleverly 'Hindi-ised'.

'Thoo mEra chaand main thEri chaandni' from Dillagi and 'Aaj puraani raahOn sE kOyee mujhE aawaaz na dE' (aadmi), both by Naushad have more than a generous sprinkling of Abheri.

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SL,
I was referring to the song "prabhu tErO naam, jo dhyaye phal paaye sukh laaye tErO naam". Come to think of it, even this one doesn't sound like Bhimpalasi to me now. I hastily thought it was so, based on a couple of lines in the anthara. It sounds more like dhani to me. What do you think? Enjoyed your informative post. Didn't realise
"allah tErO naam" has sprinkles of so many ragas.

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Nalini, nice to exchange ideas with you again. It is a long time since anybody contributed to the 'Old Hindi songs' thread.

'Prabhu terO naam'!!! I had almost forgotten the song. Raag Dhani ....first time I have heard the name :))) Do you have a link to the song ?

About 'Allah...', Jaidev was impressive till he got stuck in the Ghazal mould.

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dhani -> hindustani counterpart of suddha dhanyasi?

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RR : yes.
here is a list of equivalent ragas in the Carnatic and Hindusthani traditions. http://www.aoe.vt.edu/~boppe/MUSIC/RAGA/hc.html

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There is one version of Dhani which uses the exact same notes of Shuddha Dhanyasi. The other version also uses the Chatushruti Ri.

Bhimpalasi and Dhani use many of the same notes, but emphases are different...Prabhu Tero Naam is more of a Dhani than a Bhimpalasi.

Some other Hindi songs that fit this Bhimpalasi/Dhani-ish category:

Chaand Maddham Hai - Lata for Madan Mohan in
"Railway Platform"

Maine Chaand Aur Sitaaron Ki - Rafi, N. Datta,
"Chandrakanta"

and the (in)famous
Tu Cheez Badi Hai - Udit, Kavita K., Viju Shah, "Mohra"

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Sriram, I thought that might be you! Yes, the Old Hindi Songs thread was fun. The couple of HFM sites that I know of don't have "prabhu tErO naam". Will certainly provide the link if I can find it.

Sanjeev, thanks for those interesting clarifications.

The following also sound Bhimpalasi-ish to me:
Kuch Dil ne Kaha (Anupama)
Nirdayi Preetam (Stree)

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'KhilthE hain gul yahaan' is mostly Dhan in that case. I think M2 creeps in , in the charanam in the line 'in lamhon....'.

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Nalini, thx for reminding me of 'kuchh dil nE kaha', a stunner. AR Rahman's 'minnalE nee vanthathEnadi..' , has its origin in this song.

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Another one in the same lines as 'MainE chaand aur sitarOn', 'HamnE dEkhi hai' from KhamOshi. Both songs touch G3 at a point and one song can be an extension of the other.

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Sriram, where are you? Lost your contact info.

Sanjeev, stay with us and share more of your knowledge.

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Kuch dhil nE kahaa is one of my all time fves. Have to listen to it again to sense Bhimplasi base.

There was an old old old song by Lata ( can not remember the lyrics) sounding very close to "Kandan Karunai.....", a master piece by Madurai Mani Iyer. Anyone?

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Hi Ramji,
Yes, long time!!!! Email me (sriramlak@yahoo.com). Give me the opening lines of the Lata number. Laxmikanth-Pyarelal's 'kOyee nahin hai' (Lata) from Paththar kE sanam shows flashes of Abheri and is impressive.

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Hi Sriram:
Sorry I can not give you even the opening line. Have emailed you explaining why.:-)

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Can we get out of the Bhimplasi mode for a change ?:))))
I remember reading somewhere in the net that SDB had composed a number in Tilak Kamod (Carnatic NaLina kanthi). Will appreciate some info on this.

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A friend of mine pointed out ARR's kandukondEn ( title song) is based on Nalinikanthi. Have been breaking my head to track a SDB song in Tilak Kamod.

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This page has a list of songs and their raags. http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/1364/songs.html Tilak Kamod has two songs..

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http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/1364/songs.html

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Vidhs...and I do not remember ever hearing those songs :((((

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SL : Got this site, in google looking for Tilak kamod. it has some good melodies, especially the set on Ahir Bhairav.

Puchho na kaise maine rain bithaayii
& Albaelaa sajan aayo rii - (Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam)

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There is a great song in the film Chitralekha- kale tarsa... it is in the rag valachi in Carnatic. What is the Hindustani equivalent of that? Anyone...

BTW, is Ritu aa Gaye re in 1947 Earth in pantuvarali? Can anyone confirm that?

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This is a link for raga of hindhi songs:

http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/1364/songs.html

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Vidhya, MS, thanks for that link.
I do not recognize those Tilak Kamod songs either.
Neither could I come up with any Tilak Kamod songs on my own! I'm sure there are many. Does "hum tErE pyar mein sArA Alum Kho baitEn hain" from Dil ek Mandir come close, or is it Desh?

CP, the Hindustani equivalent for Valachi is Kalavati.

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Is Pankh hote to ud aati re from sehra set in mohanam?

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Can anyone confirm whether Hum Kissise HN Qawwali (good one!) is in valaji/kalavathi ? You can listen to it in http://www.megacinema.com/

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oops! just checked the list, it's there under Kalavathi.. :)

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A singer told me that film songs unlike carnatic don't maintain the shruti consistently.Is it true?

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Vijay : the raag-list site http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/1364/songs.html (http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/1364/songs.html
)
has "pankh hote to ud aati" as Bhoopali which is Mohanam.

CP: Rithu aa gayae rE is here
http://ww.smashits.com/searchresults.cfm?Page=ShowDetails&ProductID=224 (http://ww.smashits.com/searchresults.cfm?Page=ShowDetails&ProductID=224
)

NaLini: Hum tErE pyar ,mein saara aalum is here
http://ww.smashits.com/searchresults.cfm?Page=ShowDetails&ProductID=1411

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Rithu aagayi re is in Panthuvarali/Poorya Dhanashri

Hum there Pyaar mein is in Desh

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Hi all my friends there!!!!
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on september 1999 I conducted this programme based on the above mentioned topic

songs films ragas
LAPAK JHAPAK TU DHARBARI
Jab deep jale ana chitchor yaman kalyan
bol re papi hara guddi miya malhar
kahin deep jale bees sal bad shivranjani
indian rain colonial cousins megh malhar
methe bol bole kinara bhairavi
tu cheez badi hai mohara bhimpalasi
koi jo mila to breatheless yaman
albela sajan ayo HUM DIL DE CHUKE AHIR BHAIRAV
RADHIKE TUNE BANSURI DARBARI
CHURAI

AGAIN I WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH MORE INFORMATION. TILL THEN BYE.

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Dear all
Anyone knows the raga for Dheeme Dheeme from Mohabbetein?
Thanks

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"Dheeme Dheeme " is ShankarabharaNam.

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Is Pankh hote to ud aati re from sehra set in mohanam?

Bhupal Thodi

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mu: yes. chk this webpage..
http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/1364/songs.html (http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/1364/songs.html
)

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pankh hote : is in Byhupali(Mohanam).

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jab deep jale ana,gar se nikalthe hain,tum dil ki dhadkan all are in raag yaman

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"jab deep jalae aana" is Hamsanadham

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Shivaranjani: Great songs got tuned in this raagam.

Kahin deep jalae kahin dil (Latha)
jaanae kahaan gayae vo dhin (Mukesh)
TErE mErE beech mein (SPB, Latha)
Baharon phul barsao - (Rafi,latha) Suraj
Dilke jharokhemen tujhko bithakar - (Rafi)Bramhachari
Tumse milkar, na jane kyun, aur bhi kuchh yaad aata hai - (Rafi, Latha) Pyar Jhukta Nahin
aavaaz dekar hamein thum bulaao muhabbath mein ithnaa (Rafi,Latha) Professor

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Brindhaavana saarangaa or Sarang
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Another beautiful raag.

1) Saavan aayae yaa na aayae
2) Bahuth Shuk Riyaaa badee meharnbaani

mujhe zindhagi ki duvA na dE - sounds like Saarang.

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I got know about this site when I was surfing for classical ragas in film songs.
I listen to lot of Mannadey. I want to know if my assumption on ragas are correct. Let me begin with this.
Ek Samay par do Paras Athi - Is this Akir Bhairav

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Arvind: I don't seem to recollect this particular song by M.Dey. However, the famous 'puchOna kaisE mainE rain bithaayi' is i aahir bHairav.

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'Ek samay par do barsathEn' is a song composed by Salil Choudhry. Starts in Kamaj (Hari Kambhoji) and includes N3 and later includes G2 also in the line 'phir bhi pyAsA manwa tarsE' So, take a guess :)

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There is this salil -Lata-Shailendra song in Parakh,Oh Sajna barkha bahaar aayi..

also wht abt Jalte hai jis keliye ?

Can anyone tell me in which raga it is composed ?
wht is the Carnatic equivalent of that ?

In Mujhe kuch kehna nai the song Rabba mere rabba starts in proper darbaari kaanada i feel !!
But it devaites into another ragaless osng as it progresses!!
Comments r invited and answers wud be greatly appreciated!!

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Raghu, 'O sajnA...' is predominantly in 'Kamaj' (Hari Kambhoji) and 'jaltE hain..' is in 'Kafi' (Karaharapriya). Both songs use N3 though.

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i don't know anything about indian classical music but the Sa, RE, Ga....etc. but am wondering 1 thing.

Can the scale start from any note or does it have to start with a certain specified note?

what i mean is, can a raag such as Kafi start E (western scale), or does it always have to start with C?

thanks
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Bhairav - MayamaLava GowLai.
_____________________________

1. Mohe bhool gayE saavariyaa
Can anyone mention any other songs in that raag?

Bhairavi
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some unfirgettable songs..
1. Bol Radha bol sangam hOga
2. Kaise samjhavoon badae naasamajh hain

humming them is almost the same as humming these
3. Jiya Jalaen Jaan Jaalen
4. Khamoshiyan gungunaanae lagi thanhaayiyaan

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2 more gems of Mannadey in Bharav
Mitae bol bolaen
phul-gaendhava na maarao lagath kalejwa pe

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typo.. above two are in Bhairavi.

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can anyone give me a list of ten to twelve hindi film songs in sindhu bhairavi? Thanks

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amritha: 'Bhairavi' is Hindustani equivalent of Sindhu Bhairavi.
http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/1364/bhairavicat1.html (http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/1364/bhairavicat1.html
)

check the site below for songs in Bhairavi.
http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/1364/songs.html (http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/1364/songs.html
)

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Hi
Thanks for the tip about the hindusthani raga-based songs site. However, I was puzzled to see that it has some songs listed under bhairavi raga and also some listed under sindhubhairavi raga. If they are the same (equivalents), then why would they do this?

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Amritha: true.
http://www.makar-records.com/siteus/26page.html (http://www.makar-records.com/siteus/26page.html
)
http://www.pathcom.com/~ericp/intro.html (http://www.pathcom.com/~ericp/intro.html
)
mention Bhairavi & Sindhu-Bhairavi synonymously.

http://www.ee.iisc.ernet.in/mirror/icm/ch.txt (http://www.ee.iisc.ernet.in/mirror/icm/ch.txt
)
says that Sindhu Bhairavi raag came from the south.

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ks_karthika@yahoo.com hsggbsb

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Hi
I would like to know the ragas for the following nonfilmi hindi songs:
1 "Mayeeree" by palash of euphoria band from the album 'phir dhoom'
2. "Pardesiyaa, chali re chali re purvaiya" by sapna awasthi from the album pardesiya
3. "Piya basanthi re" by chitra and sultan khan from the album "piya basanti"

Thanks

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Amrith: Are sound samples of the list available in the net?

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Hi vidhya
All of "mayee ree" and "piya basanthi re" are available from music india online under the indipop section. As far as I know, the "pardesiya" song was released in '99 and there are no samples on the web. By the way, if you happen to have Real Player, the music india online site is a superb resource for all kinds of indian music.

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I would like to know the raagas for these songs that have a distinct punjabi flavor:

1. Hey yara da koi naiyo rabba rabba rabba (Aks)
2. Sajna ne phul mariya (Deewane)
3. Sola baras ki baali umar ko salaam (ek dooje ke liye)
4. Mainu ishq da lagiya rog (Dil hai ki maantha nahin)
5. Jaanejaana o jaanejaana jab jab teri soorat dekhoon (Jaanbaaz)
6. Ki aaja teri yaad aayi, o baalam harjaayee (Charas)
Do such punjabi songs have certain ragas as a base?

I would also like to know ragas of new hindi songs:

1. Meri zindagi mein ik ajanabee ka intazaar hai (Ajnabee)
2. Roshnee se bhari bhari (Ashoka)
3. Tere siva kuch yaad nahin (Title song of Mast)

Thanks

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Hello,

I would really appreciate it if someone could give me a clue on where I can find a list of Hindi film songs having raag bhairavi as their "backbone". I have gone to the geocities page and it is really a treausre trove of information but unfortunately I need songs from the last four years as well to show the evolution of film music (with Raag bhairavi as the "skeleton") over the last fifty years.

Anyone out there who can help me on this one? It would be a real lifesaving mission you're undertaking as this is part of an international project initiated on Indian music and its omnipresence in the lives of Indians.

Thanks in advance.

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Amritha: Got from http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/1364/pilucat4.html (http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/1364/pilucat4.html
)
"Sola barasaki bali umarko salam - Ek Duje Ke Liye" is Ahir Bhairav
"Mainu Ishq daa" is Pilu.

"Jaan-e-jaana...Jab jab teri surat dekhun - JaanBaaz" is Charukeshi

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http://www.karnatik.com/ (http://www.karnatik.com/
)
Good site for raaga info.

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hi all

i am a fan of Old HFM and grew up listening to them. But i am just now came across this superb forum and also the Hindi Raaga site, which is very informative.
but i found some possible mistakes in the list.
i am no authority,but wish to confirm from experts in this forum if i am right.

FOLL. songs HAVE BEEN PUT UNDER BHAIRAVI, WHICH I FEEL IS NOT CORRECT

1 Ajahun na aye balma should be chandrakauns or kalyana vasantham?

SONGS 2-8 MENTIONED BELOW ARE NEAR TO ASAVARI(NATABHAIRAVI)
2 Dost dost na raha - Sangam
3 Mera juta hai japani - and Ramiya vasta vaiya - Shri 420
4 Ai mere dil kahin aur chal - Daag
5 Tera jana - Anadi
6 Jare, jare ud ja re panchhi - Maaya
7 Bhari duniya men akhir dil ko samajhane kahan jaayen - Do Badan
8 Hame tumse pyar kitana - Kudarat

9 Jiya jale jaan jale nainon tale - Dil Se...WILL COME UNDER SARAMATHI(WHAT IS THE EQUIVALENT IN HINDUSTANI?), though it has some parts of BHAIRAVI

but i learnt a lot about raagas from this site.
i havent seen the list fully yet, just some observations as of now.

pls let me know whatever is right or wrong. i want to learn from u experts:-)

cheers
satsona

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hi vidhya

some additions to the raaga songs site

charukeshi - bedardi baalma
Madhuvanthi - Manmohana Bade Roothe
Pahadi - Gaata Rahe Mera Dil
bhairavi - ye hariyaali aur ye raasta

also a diversion.

the famous tune Allah megh de pani de - Guide copied by Bappi lahri directly as De De Pyar De in Sharaabi.

Probably ARR got inspiration for the 1st line of Vennilave Vennilave(Minsara Kanavu).
right?

cheers
satsona

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satsona: "Megh de" is a nice simple tune.
:)
Yep. Bot the lines sound very same.

Ajahu na aaye - is Sindhu bhairavi predominantly.
Ni3 that clearly comes in the start itself gives the chandrakauns feel.

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For Jiya Jalae, ros had a huge discussion.
http://tfmpage.com/forum/8689.ros.html (http://tfmpage.com/forum/8689.ros.html
)
It is both Natabhairavi& Sindhu Bhairavi.

Malayalam interlude is in Aanandha bhairavi.

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Can anyone get me the raga and the notes for the song " arre re arre yeh kya hua" from the film Dil to Pagal Hai? In sa ri ga ma notation please.

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http://my.123india.com/keyless/ (http://my.123india.com/keyless/
)
http://www.learnkeyboard.com/ (http://www.learnkeyboard.com/
)
http://geetnet.com/hindigold/ (http://geetnet.com/hindigold/
)

Here are some sites for notes /Guitar-chords.

This one has noted for arere
http://www.geocities.com/chidamt/page_h.html (http://www.geocities.com/chidamt/page_h.html
)
http://www.geocities.com/chidamt/notes/hindi/ar_dtph.txt (http://www.geocities.com/chidamt/notes/hindi/ar_dtph.txt
)

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http://www.geocities.com/musicallahari/Pa.html (http://www.geocities.com/musicallahari/Pa.html
)
A website that lists raaga of Hindhi movie songs.

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http://www.soundofindia.com/ (http://www.soundofindia.com/
)
one more website for raaga in Hindhi film music.

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The song Jab dil jale aana... from the movie Chitchor is mentioned under Kalyan and Yaman at different sites. But in the movie itself, Amol Palekar says it is in Malkauns!!!
So which is correct??

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Rajesh: It is kalyaNi(carnatic)
Its quivalent is yaman(hindustani).

But..
http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/1364/songs.html says kalyaN.

http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Facility/4118/rmic/rmic.1992.03.04.html (http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Facility/4118/rmic/rmic.1992.03.04.html
)
says kalyaN(hindustani) is kalyaNi(carnatic).

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what is the raga of the song 'Vaishnava Janato' as sung in the movie Hey Ram?

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and 'Radha Kaise Na Jale' from Lagaan? Is it Anandha Bhairavi?

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Saketh@Atlanta

IMO
'Vaishnava Janato' in Hey Ram is Yaman(Kalyani)
'Radha Kaise Na Jale' is Bhimpalas(Abheri)

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Anyone watched Monsoon wedding, i need to find out about a song.

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i wanna know where will i find the song humain tumse pyaar kitna from film kudarat.

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Megh & Megh Malhar
Here are two raaga lists that list them separately.
http://www.musicalnirvana.com/raga/hindustani/hindustani_ragas.html#Raga List
http://www.ee.iitb.ernet.in/www/hraga.html (http://www.ee.iitb.ernet.in/www/hraga.html
)
Megh(Hindusthani) is madhyamavathi
Does anyone know what is the carnatic equivalent of Megh Malhar? Any compisitions in it?

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http://www.sawf.org/newedit/edit10302000/musicarts.asp
This "Saarang family" article has one sample that differentiates Megh and mahdmath Saarang, clearly showing that megh is madhyamavathi.
http://www.geocities.com/promiserani2/hcragatable.html
this site lists Madhyamavathy===madhmathsarang.

madhmadh Sarang = megh in swarams.
The sample(in Hindhi) discusses the difference. From swarams point of view, both are madhyamavathi.
First he sings madhmath Sarang(more of ma->ri prayogam), second Megh(all swarams independent).

ghanana ghanana - Lagaan is Megh Malhar.
(derived from kaapi).

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Riaz: humain tumse pyaar kitna from film kudarat is in Bharavi.
(Carnatic equivalent - Sindhu Bhairavi).

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vidhya,

IMO, humain tumse pyaar kitna has a more Natabhairavi feel(SB's sruthibedham). but sometimes i feel it to have SB feel too:-) So i agree with u partly:)

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Hey ... same junta here :)

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I think the following songs are pahadi because they sound similar. Can anyone confirm?

1. Jo vaada kiya voh nibhaana padega (Taj Mahal)
2. Kya karoon haye kuch kuch hota hai (Kuch kuch hota hai)
3. Tu padh le sajan meri aankhon mein --dhai akshar prem ke (Dhai akshar Prem ke)
4. Dil leke, jaan leke teri gali mein main aa gaya (Na tum jaano na hum)

I would also like to hear about any site that has more info about the raagas of new film songs.

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Hi, the song "Jiya naahi laage kaa karun sajana, tujh bin soona laage angana" is supposed to be abhogi kaanada. Can anyone tell me the singer, and which film it comes from? Thanks

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Bindiya, pls check: http://www.asavari.org/songs.html (http://www.asavari.org/songs.html
)

Jo Vada Kiya Woh is Pahadi. Also you can post questions at: http://tfmpage.com/forum/ros.html (http://tfmpage.com/forum/ros.html
)

Someone will respond. Vidhya seems to be missing for some time in summer maybe this will pickup pace in Fall.

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Bindiya : amazing ! first three sound very similar and are indeed in Pahaadi. 2 & 3 look like they r inspired from 1 !

4th sound similar to "ae mere hum safar" rather than "Jo vaadha kiya".
Listing similar songs for 4,
Chand ne kuch kahaa, raath ne kuch sunaa - Dil tho paagal hai
Dil tho paagal hai Dil deewanaa hai - Dil tho paagal hai

(Played "Dil leke" in keyboard with the first note as PA) it is pure kalyaNi.

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dear friends,
can anyone please tell me the song nisagamapanisa[sung by shan in saregamapa prog last week]is from which film&who r the singers

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Hi

Can anyone tell me the raga for "ek pal ka jeena" from "kaho na pyaar hai"?

Thanks

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Hi

Can anyone tell me the raga for "ek pal ka jeena" from "kaho na pyaar hai"?

Thanks

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There were 2 beautiful songs in Danger biscuit one AShwathi nakshathrame..in Hamsadhwani and Utharaswayam varam..in Kharaharapriya.

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What is the raga of the following songs.....
1) Ek din aap yun humko mil jayenge (yesboss)
2) Yeh jo thodisi hei paise (Papa kahte hai )(sounds similar to the first one!)
3)Do dil mil rahe hai ( pardes)
4)Ek ladiki ko deka tho (1942 love story)
5) Kuch na kaho (1942 love story)
6) Rim jhim Rim jhim (1942 Love story)
7)Kabhi tho nazar milao ( adnan sami)
8)Tera chehra jab nazar aaye (adnan sami)
9)Piya basanthi re...
10)0..goriya re (yesudas)
11) taal se taal mila ( taal)
12)tu....Merizindagi hai
13) dil deevana na jane kab kho gaya (daag)
14) yaad piya ki aane lagi ( falguni pathak )
15) Aa kahin door chale jaaye hum.. (laavaris)
16) akhiyon se goli maare....( dulhe raja )
17) Piya re piya re.....

Thakyou in advance to all

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Hi kamal,
Nisagamapani...is Sung by yesudas in the flim Anand Mahal.
It is in the raga DESH.
If you heard the song Pyar hua chupke se....(1942 love story) you will find out that these two songs are very very similar and both are in desh.
Isn't Vaishnava jana tho in the raga Harikambojhi ?

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Could anyone please tell me where to find the "Vaishnav Janato" song sung my M.S. Subbu Lakshmi or any other singer? (Not the lyrics. I have them).

Thanks in Advance

(P.S. Is the raga Yaman Kalyani?)

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can anyone tell me the raag of the song 'kuch mere kaha' (tere mere sapne-new)

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Can any one please tell me what raga the song "Pramabhavanam - K.J. Yesudas" From a malayalam movie "His Highness Abdulla". iof you guy's didn't hear it just click the link following.

http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/l/VV000701

Please!!!
Thank You..

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can anyone tell me the raaga of
Rootaey whoway kyon Adnan Sani
Sounding similar to Pranathavanam vendhum His Highness Abdulla,Vanmugilae -Mazha

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Hey sandhy and mani, both of you are reffering to the raga JOG which looks similar to our Chala naatai.
regards
shankar

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Hello Shankar Thanks a lot.I can sleep peacefully only tonight!!! Mandayae ondanju pochu without knowing the name of the raaga

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Hey sandhy,
There is also a song " Varmukile.... " in the film called mazha ( malayalam ) which is also in this raga Jog.

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Hi Shankar I have mentioned that too looks like uve missed it

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Ok....sorry i missed it.
This raga jog is very very similar to Thilung.we can identify it only using a few prayogams, which differentiates it from thilung... for example the second line of the song pramadavanam, which goes like.....Hridu raagam pole.... ( sorry for lyrics ), actually is a very good example.If you carefully see, all the songs mentioned will have this payogam.

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Hi Shankar really amazing to hear that.Thanks again

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Can anybody give 6 catchy hindi numbers in the same ragam(any) except Raag Yaman,to perform for an entertainment program?

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Hey sandya.....why not try the raga shivaranjani or pahadi.....there are lots of songs ( hindi) as both are hindustani based ragas

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or even try sindubhairavi

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Hi Thanks a lot I tried songs in Shivranjani
but it turned out to be all soga geedhams.So trying to change into Sindubhairavi
Shankar

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Well.....you are going from one extreme to the other !!!! If you trying sindubhairavi, it will too much " dappanguthu " like ( most of the songs ).....but there are exceptions like the song in raaz (aapke pyaar me....etc)

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Hello dears I m Imran from Pakistan.I want some information about ragas so plz eneyone can contect me and solved my probblem.I m thanfull anvance

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Sats:

I dont think Vaishnava Janato is Yaman, it sounds like Khamaaj to me.

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Where can I download the song "Gora Tera Goan.." by Yesudas?

Thanks in advance

Satish

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Can anyone help me in getting Season songs in HFM?
Spring,summer,winter,and monsoon?

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plz tell me if
khamach, khamod, khamas, khamaj refers to the same raga.
i too hav efelt that vaishanava janato is in khamas..
Also plz tell me to which raga is the song" mangal bhav...." at the end of the popular TV serial Ramayan set to..
plzzzzz
thanks in advance

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the last time when kumar shanu was the judge in saregamapa, i was surprised at the decision he took. was it only because she too is a bengali?like this the real artistes will have to struggle with a different attitude. the winner according to shanu was pathetic and her pronounciation too was not alright.atleast leave the art line for good artistes and leave politics away. ask art lovers like us.
thank you.

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friends,plz tell me ,to which raga are the songs
1. khilthe hai gul yahaan from sharmili
2. do diwane sheher mein from gharaondha
to..

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Do any body know the raga of the song Tera chehra by Adnan sami ?

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Hi All,
I just tuned in here and enjoyed what I saw. Check out www.soundofindia.com for moviesongs/raaga reference.

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Do any body know the raga of the song "There bina zindagi me koi"?

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Do any body know the raga of the song "There bina zindagi me koi"?

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Tere bina zindagi has more of ahir Bhairav- (chakravakam in carnatic) in its structure. It is not based on one raaga, since the scale progresses to other notes as well. The pallavi is very similar to Pihare Ramarasam sung by Balamuralikrishna.

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Hello Rajeev,thank you for your kindly information

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Do anybody know the raga of the song " KEHANAHE KEHANAHE AAJ THUMSE YE PAHALE BAAR"OR the song "CHOOKAR MERE MANKO KIYATHUNE KYA ISHARA"

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Do anybody know the raga of the song " KEHANAHE KEHANAHE AAJ THUMSE YE PAHALE BAAR"OR the song "CHOOKAR MERE MANKO KIYATHUNE KYA ISHARA"

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`kehna hai' is raag kedar of hindustani( similar raag in carnatic music is Valachi).
Chookar is in the C-major scale of western music. Very close to Bhimplas of hindustani and Sankarabharanam of carnatic.
By the way, what do you do with this raaga information?

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hello Rajeev,I am a music student and i am very curious to know about different ragas

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Hello!!!!!!!!!!!!I want to know the postal adress of Pandit Hari Parshad Churasiya,the famous flute master.Or any of his contacts.

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Hello everyone.........Does any body knows the raga of the song""meray naina sawan bahdohn "" & the raga of the song ""teray meray beech main of film ek dujay k liye"" & ""tumhay daikhtee hoon to lagta hay aisay""

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"Mere Nainaa Saawana Bhaado" is from raaga Shivranjani. Other two I do not know. You can look at

http://www.asavari.org/

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Tere mere beech mein is also shivranjani. The other song I have not heard.
Mere naina is actually misra shivaranjani as it uses g3 along with g2.

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I am asking about 2 songs one of them is already in my previous question.What are the ragas of these songs-----------
1."tumhay daikhtee hoon to lagta hay aisay
kay jaisay yougoon say tumhay janti hoon"
sung by Lata G.
2."rasme ulfat ko nibahain to nibahain kaisay
zindagi bhooj bani hay to uthain kaisay"
sung by Lata G.

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Hi everybody. My name is Rajen Mohunlal and I'm from South Africa.I enjoy bhajans and kirtans tremendously, and also film songs to a small degree. I have two questions :- 1). What is the difference between a bhajan and a kirtan, and 2). If a person can sing a song, then why is it so neccessary to know what raag the song is ung in - how does this help?.This may sound a strange question to those who have studied music, but I have not studied and am therefore puzzled.

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Hi everybody. My name is Rajen Mohunlal and I'm from South Africa.I enjoy bhajans and kirtans tremendously, and also film songs to a small degree. I have two questions :- 1). What is the difference between a bhajan and a kirtan, and 2). If a person can sing a song, then why is it so neccessary to know what raag the song is ung in - how does this help?.This may sound a strange question to those who have studied music, but I have not studied and am therefore puzzled.

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Hello chek the URL
Rajen Mohunlal
http://www.aradhnamusic.com/bhajans_kirtan.html

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hello kon hai jo yahaan par kaliyaan deta hai mujhe yeh baat achi naheen lagi
mein naraz ho iss baat par
kon hai wo jiss ne gali di hai batao hello
????????????????????

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Anyone will help me about the raaga-based songs and the names of the raagas for Kumar Sanu songs?

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Will somebody tell me the raagas of the following Kumar Sanu songs:

Naraaz Saveraa Hai/Nazdeek Saveraa Hai from Sangharsh
Shabke Jaage Hue from Tamannaa
Tum Bin Man Kee Baat Aadhuree from Mrityudand
Yeh Thode Jo Hai Paise from Papa Kehte Hai
Jab Tumhe Aashiqui Maaloom Hogee from Ajnabee

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Friends..
Pls let me know from which movies are these songs from..
i wanted my friend to give me a list of nice to hear old hindi songs..and he gave me this..but he is not sure of the movie names.
1.Naam gum jaayega
2.Yeh Kaham Aaa Gaaye Hum
3.Aap ki Aankhon main kuch
4.Mere Naina Saawan
5.Jo Waada Kiya woh
6.Chandni kaa chaand ho
7.Moar (?) Ghane Paghat pe
8.Tu Aaja re
9.Hum Bewafa
10.Chinkari Koi Bathe
11.Tere bina Zindagi se koi
12.Yeh hai reshmi Zulfoon ka andhera
13.Ek ladki bigi baagi se
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also if possible let me know the singer and MDs of these songs..
thanks in advance

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:(

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Happy new year to all the Members

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Naam gum jaayega
Filim-Kinara
M.D-Rahul DEv Burman
Lyrics-Gulzar
Singer-Bhipinder,Lata Mangeshkar

2,Yeh Kaham Aaa Gaaye Hum
Filim-Silsila
Singer-AmitabhBachan,Lata Mangeshkar
M.D- Shiv,Hari
Lyrics-Javed Akhtar

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3,Aap ki Aankhon main kuch
Filim-Ghar
Singer- Kishore Kumar,Lata Mangeshkar
M.D-Rahul Dev Burman
LYrics-Gulzar

4,Mere Naina Saawan
filim-Mehabooba
Singer-Kishore Kumar,Lata Mangeshkar
M>D-Rahul Dev Burman
Lyrics- Anand Bakhshi

5,Jo Waada Kiya woh
Filim-Taj Mahal
Singer-Mohammad Rafi,Lata Mangeshkar
M>D_Roshan
LYrics-Sahir Ludhianvi
6,7,8 i don't know
9,Hum Bewafa
Filim-Shalimar
Singer-Kishore Kumar
M>D_Rahul Dev Burman
Lyrics- Anand Bakhshi

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10.Chinkari Koi Bathe
Filim-Amar Prem
Singer-Kishore Kumar
M.D-Rahul Dev Burman
Lyrics-Anad Bakshi

11.Tere bina Zindagi se koi
Filim-Anandhi
Singer-Lata Mangeshkar,Kishore Kumar
M.D- Rahul Dev Burman
Lyrics-Gulzar

12,Yeh hai reshmi Zulfoon ka andhera
Filim-Mere Sanam
Singer-Asha Bhosle

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Hello,Rajesh
I hope It would be useful for you.

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remya ..hai valare nanni ketto..

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Remya ..thanks a lot for your time,in writing a detailed info on each song.so nice of u..bye!

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Will somebody tell me the raagas of the following Kumar Sanu songs:

Naraaz Saveraa Hai/Nazdeek Saveraa Hai from Sangharsh
Shabke Jaage Hue from Tamannaa
Tum Bin Man Kee Baat Aadhuree from Mrityudand
Yeh Thode Jo Hai Paise from Papa Kehte Hai
Jab Tumhe Aashiqui Maaloom Hogee from Ajnabee

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hi guys
tere mere beech mein is shivaranjani as well. As for tere bina zindagi se koi , there is nothinh to suggest ahir bhairav in the beginning. It is shivaranjani as well but it does take foreign notes later on in the song As for rasm-e-ulfat by lata, it is in raga Hemavathi, the 56th melakarta in the karnatak sangeeta system. Lots of karnatak ragas have been adopted into the hindusthani system and hindi songs . This is one of them . Another example is the song meghare megha re mat pardes jare in charukesi, the 26th melakarta.And kehna hai kehna hai aaj tumse kahna hai is in raga abheri, the hindustani equivalent for which is bhimpalas. It has got nothing to do with shankarabharana which is bilawal in hindustani and c-major in western music.khilte haI GUL YAHAN IS also in abheri/ bhimpalas.do diwane is I think based primarily on shuddha dhanyasi[ in karnataka sangeeta] although it takes many foreign notes including dhaivata

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Hi all,
Can someone tell me where I can find an overview of ragas and theory behind ragas.
Thanks in advance.

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What is the raga og the song Kahin door jab shyam dal jaaye....

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hi i am shalini,

can someone please send me at random all the songs that fall under any raga.atleast the janya rags or please suggest me a site that i can visit regards this.

thanks a tonn!

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Hi Randhir......visit

http://www.khazana.com/et/music/INMURES.asp?mscsstcid=&mscssid=5U4J9LL7UWW09HC1GAQDTGP9WLX6C2W2 (http://www.khazana.com/et/music/INMURES.asp?mscsstcid=&mscssid=5U4J9LL7UWW09HC1GAQDTGP9WLX6C2W2
)
you will find some appreciable information ........on music and ragas......
I suggest all beginners to visit this site

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kiya hey yeh!! why dont u guys put some cool songs gazals' yeah mujey achee nehee lagthee.

shanu

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hai,

i want to know more about everybody




thanks

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Can anyone tell me what is the Raaga of the song "Kuhu Kuhu bole koyaliya" from the movie suvarna sundari.. It sounds like "Sunada vinidini"(Carnatic).I am interested in knowing about this.. Please respond..
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[RR]

* In the song "Tere Mere Sapne" from the film ``Guide," there is an eclectic mix of the traditional and modern facets. Although S. D. Burman has set the song in a rare raag, Gaaraa, the saxophone in short spells for a Jazz effect by Manohari Singh in the original added novelty. Manohari Dada, going strong with half a century of association with the industry, was present at the programme to perform live for a thundering applause from the audience.

* Raag Maand (known as Hemant too) has 24 versions of it sung in the desert land of Rajasthan, and Pahadi originates in Jammu's folk songs, said Ajoy.

* Raag Keeravani was mirrored in many forms: Rafi's "Yaad Na Aaye" was brought to life by Javed Ali, while Ajoy gave a Hindustani touch followed by Carnatic and then traversed the scales effortlessly for a jazz configuration.

* Reliving C. Ramachandra's music in Bhairavi was Mahalakshmi and Javed in "Kaise Avoon Jamuna Ke Teer" while Ajoy brought it out in tappa, khayal, tumri and the Iranian and Afghanistan versions in different taals.

http://www.hindu.com/fr/2005/03/04/stories/2005030401830400.htm

[mohan kumar]

I HAVEalso attended programme of ajoy muhargi .what is the karnatic equalant of raag jinjoti?

[RR]

I HAVEalso attended programme of ajoy muhargi .what is the karnatic equalant of raag jinjoti?
On the web, I read that it is Navroj.

Can you share more details about the Ajoy programme (i.e. apart from those mentioned in the article)?

[mohan kumar]

Thanks members. Lot of clarifications for raag bhimplas. CAN ANY ONE suggest a site where i can listen to lathaji"joth se lag dhan from bhabhi ki choodiyan in raag bhupali

mohan kumar

[RR]

Is this the one you are looking for?

http://www.sawf.org/audio/bhoop/lata_jyoti.ram

[mohan kumar]

Thank you R R. I really enjoyed it.


mohan kumar

[salaikumar]

whats the raaga of the song "aahista aahista" from swadesh???

[RR]

salaikumar,

Hope you've found that it's Charukesi.

[RR]

Some songs baroque posted in Tamil ROS thread:

Chitchor

jab deep chale (yaman)
tu jo meri (pilu)

http://www.raaga.com/channels/hindi/movie/H000194.html

[RR]

Baroque,

Here's a song you might enjoy:

Kahan Se Aaye Badra (http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/cqCm_ONxKd.As1NMvHdW/)
Movie Name : Chashme Buddoor (1981)
Singer : Haimanti Shukla, Yesudas K J
Music Director : Rajkamal

[savvysubu]

[quote="mohan kumar"]I HAVEalso attended programme of ajoy muhargi .what is the karnatic equalant of raag jinjoti?
On the web, I read that it is Navroj.

The carnatic equivalent of raag "jinjoti" sounds similar. It is "chenjurutti", and is represented by a lot of compositions dating from far back to folk tunes in tamil.


I was reading the general thread on raags in hindi film songs. I can suggest the ragas. I am pretty sure I shall get it right, at least to the neighborhood. "manamohana" is in raag "jaijaivanti" and not "madhuvanti". It will be hard for me to make a list of songs from this thread. Has anyone compiled a list that I can start from?

Thanks

Subu

[Lakshman]

Try this site:

http://www.asavari.org/songs.html

[RR]

Is Mitwa (KANK) in Maand ? Listen here (http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/Ts7mVqZmCt.As1NMvHdW/)

[savvysubu]

Hi,

Keshav sent me these recent ones, and thought I'll share my guesses here:

1. Bangri Marori - sukhwinder singh
2. Piya Ho - Sadhana Sargam
3. Naina Neer Bahai - Sadhana Sargam

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1. is Misra Khamaj
2. is Gujri Todi
3. is Ahir Lalit

Anyone wants to verify?

Thanks

Subu

[RR]

Year - 1959
Raga - Lalit
MD - Madan Mohan
Singer(s) - Lata Mangeshkar, Manna Dey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI2HLRFCNO4

[RR]

Kisi Nazar Ko Tera Intezaar Aaj Bhi Hai

Singer(s) Bhupinder Singh & Asha Bhosle
Movie : Aitebaar (1985)
Music : Bappi Lahiri
Lyrics : Faruk Kaiser

Raga: Bairagi bairav (Revati in carnatic)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-eboXPpy2o

A song to be admired for the beautiful melody, depth of Bairagi, and of course the stunning Dimple..

[RR]

Song: Megha Chhaye Adhi Rat
Film - Sharmilee
Year - 1971
Music Director(s) - S.D. Burman
Singer(s) - Lata Mangeshkar

In Raag Patdeep


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x19ynnl_megha-chhaye-aadhi-raat_music

Sharmilee is a hit 1971 Hindi movie produced by Subodh Mukherjee and directed by Samir Ganguly. The film stars Shashi Kapoor, Raakhee, Narendra Nath, Nazir Hussain, Iftekhar, S N Banerjee, Anita Guha and Asit Sen. Raakhee played a double role in this film, and its success helped make her one of the decade's top leading lady in Hindi films.

[mappi]

Detail this song please :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UULb2pAmz_A

[RR]

This is in raag Pahaadi. One of the most-used ragas in hindi films, and also in north indian film music in general.

Now that you reminded, here is another Pahadi in its full glory..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGGphY03i3Y

Song : Sahibaan Meri Sahibaan
Movie : Sahibaan
Singer : Anuradha Paudwal, Jolly Mukherjee
Stars : Rishi Kapoor, Madhuri Dixit
Music Director : Shiv-Hari (Shivkumar sharma - Hariprasad Chaurasia)

[mappi]

Wonderful. Happened to check about this Raag Pahaadi and found this link informative with recomendation of few hindi songs.

http://www.soundofindia.com/raaga_details.asp?raaga=72

Heard few of them, and it was just amazing to listen after having an idea of what you are listening to.

But I tend to feel that this raag is quite appealing when its used for a pathos song. How come its soothing for duets too ? Does all raags have this same property or is/are there exceptions ?

[RR]

Pahadi has a rustic feel, but it's a versatile raga - meaning that it lends itself to other feels in light-classical songs. Sivaranjani and Sindhu bairavi are two other versatile ones. You can do both the happiest and saddest songs with them. No wonder the three are very popular in film songs..

Of course not too many ragas are such versatile - normally! If the composer is creative enough, theoretically any feel can be brought from any raga. It sure is challenging for some ragas, and may sound far-fetched. But IR is an exception to all this. :smile2: He has made a dappankuthu out of chakravagam and a pathos song in mohanam!

[mappi]

I see ...
Checked the list of Raags of IR songs posted by Karthickcb and was amazed to find these songs under the Raga Chakravagam - they all sound entire different :

- Appa Kada Anna Kili (Payul Puli)
- Marandhen Pirandhen (Gitanjali Devotional)
- Vanithamani Vanamogini (Vikaram)

To an amature like myself, these 3 songs don't have the same sound. Amazing.
But I find that this Raga was used by IR for duets alone in Film Music and Mohanam is mixed, the female solo taking the centre stage.

- Abc Nee Vaasi (Kaidhiyin Dairy) is a jolly song, now I find it more jolly.
- Poovil Vandu (Kadhal Oviyam) super Pattu
- Oru Ragam Padalodu (Anandha Ragam) Yesudas humming just ignites means. Did you mean the pathos version of this song or is there another ?

By the by, all my favorite songs are under Mohanam Raga, thus making it my favorite Raga ... LoL

[mappi]

Excuses for deviating from the thread topic in the above post :

This song please :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trnr14tY8JU

People should listen to such songs daily (not to forget Thiruvasagam, Other IR melodies & Jazz) as a break from visiting doctors.

[RR]

maapi,

That's also mohanam :) Called Bhoopali in hindustani..

Pls post the tamil song related discussions under its suitable thread. I'll respond there..

[mappi]

Wonderful.
You see, it took me years to just come to know that the songs I hear often fall under Mohanam. I would like to know more about this raga (or ragas in general).
Can you suggest me a book that covers the basics and goes into details about them ? Internet source has limited autenticity and I always go by books which are researched and explained by authors who have authority over a particular field/subject.

[RR]

mappi,

For basics I think wiki is ok. If you really want a book, Raga nidhi (B Subba rao) is considered quite authoritative. But this is just the theory of it. The real raga beauty can, of course, be understood only by listening to various compositions and renditions.

Lakshman and others may have better book recommendations.

[mappi]

I came across this site : http://www.chembur.com/carnatic/
There are list of books in there, think I will start with author Rao.

Here is a song I listen to often (eventhough, I do not understand it completely, I am usually awstuck with it. I listen to it basicially for the tabla beats/rythms).
From 3m23s, the way she vibrates her voice is mesmerising, what is the term for such voice modulation in Carnatic/Hindustani music ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA_VGeC5ecU&feature=player_embedded

[RR]

இருக்கும் topic-ஐ விட்டு எங்கெங்கோ அலைகின்றீர் ஞானத்தங்கமே.. ! :mrgreen:

Pls post in suitable thread, I'm sure there are experts like Lakshman who will answer.

[RR]

Raga: Ahir Bairav
Thaat: Bhairav
Samay: Morning

Swaras Used: Komal Rishabh and Komal Nishad, all other notes are Shuddha.

Film song example

Film - Meri Surat Teri Aankhen (1963)
Music Director(s) - S.D. Burman
Singer(s) - Manna Dey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=376w1QPz07w

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Very poignant. TFM music may notice that this song probably inspired MSV-TKR in the Karnan song.

[Russellflh]

Saregama pays tribute to Mohd. Rafi. Calling out to all the fans! ‪View Infographic- http://imgur.com/Pkfsnkk

[RR]

Song:- SAAZ HO TUM AWAAZ HOON MAIN
Singer:- MOHAMMED RAFI
Music Director:- NAUSHAD
Lyrics:- KHUMAR BARABANKVI

Movie: SAAZ AUR AWAAZ
Stars: Joy Mukherjee, Saira Banu & Mumtaz Begum in lead roles
Year: 1966.

Raga: Raagmala starting with Patdeep, then Madhuvanti, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6szCRfApKE&feature=youtu.be

[RR]

mohe panaghaT pe nand_laal chhe.D gayo re

चित्रपट / Film: मुगले आज़म-(Mughal-E-Azam)

संगीतकार / Music Director: नौशाद अली-(Naushad)

गीतकार / Lyricist: शकील बदायुनी-(Shakeel Badayuni)
गायक / Singer(s): लता मंगेशकर-(Lata Mangeshkar)

Raga: Gara

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wjwrwP38kE&feature=youtu.be

[RR]

Song: aapki nazron ne samja
MD: Madan Mohan
Film : Anpadh

Raga : Adana

Brief demo by Rahul deshpande delineating Darbari and Adana and the subtle differences between them. Quite insightful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYv5lcFk_Vs