India's greatest cricketer

[Nakeeran]

Lets do an analysis on this :D

To my mind, the follg. come :

1. Dravid
2. Kapil
3. Sunil Gavaskar
4. Sachin Tendulkar
5. Anil Kumble
6. G.R.Vishvanath

We have also seen many great players like Sourav , Prasanna, Bedi, Chandrasekhar, Venkat, Mohinder Amarnath, Subash Gupte, Nadkarni, Vijay Hazare , Shivalkar, Azaruddin , Turbanator etc who have also played stellar role in so many memorable moments

Each one of the above's contribution to Indian cricket is outstanding !

Each one have their own traits & characteristics & they all should be called Genius

But finally there has to be one cricketer WHO WILL STAND TALLEST AMONGST THE LOT .

Lets do an analysis & vote

NO POLITICS & BULL FIGHTING PLS :evil: :D

[nilavupriyan]

sachin and kapil will be contesting!

[Nakeeran]

sachin and kapil will be contesting!

I respect Ur opinion but Unga kannukku Anil Kumble pondra sadhanaiyalargal theriyavillaya ? :shock:

Like a batsman scoring a century is considered great, equal admiration / appreciation should be given for a bowler who takes 5 wickets :D

[nilavupriyan]

anil kumble...yeah!

we cant compare the contribution of a btasman and a bowler!

anyway...i guess kapil and sachin are a step above kumble!

[Nakeeran]

anil kumble...yeah!

we cant compare the contribution of a btasman and a bowler!

anyway...i guess kapil and sachin are a step above kumble!

N.Priyare,

We need a bowler to take 20 wickets :wink:

[kb]

nee nallavan da.. gangulya listla sethula :D

[Ramakrishna]

nee nallavan da.. gangulya listla sethula :D

:lol2:

[nilavupriyan]

anil kumble...yeah!

we cant compare the contribution of a btasman and a bowler!

anyway...i guess kapil and sachin are a step above kumble!

N.Priyare,

We need a bowler to take 20 wickets :wink:

kapil dev bowler thana

[Nerd]

Wher the hell is sourav ganguly ?? :twisted:

[Nakeeran]

Wher the hell is sourav ganguly ?? :twisted:

Nerdgaru :D

Souravaru is part of the GREATS list . IMO, he comes on top under the Best ever One day cricketer but not overall :D

[nilavupriyan]

Wher the hell is sourav ganguly ?? :twisted:

Nerdgaru :D

Souravaru is part of the GREATS list . IMO, he comes on top under the Best ever One day cricketer but not overall :D

:lol:

[kb]

Souravaru is part of the GREATS list . IMO, he comes on top under the Best ever One day cricketer but not overall :D


sorry i take back my word :oops: :cry:

[ajithfederer]

Kapil and sachin :)

[Sanguine Sridhar]

I will put it in order of my preference

1. God
2. Kapil
3. Dravid
4. Sunil
5. Kumble..

[MADDY]

Kapil is above Sachin just for that fact that he held world cup in his hands once whereas Sachin has never done that.......

[selvakumar]

I agree with Maddy !
When it comes to cricket everything matters.
Even GOD failed in captaincy !
I would say
1. Kapil
2. Sachin
Both these people were role models for many.
:)

[Thirumaran]

Kapil is above Sachin just for that fact that he held world cup in his hands once whereas Sachin has never done that.......

It is not in one person's hand to get world cup. When all of the players have some contribution then only this world cup or any other cup is possible.

If u see 1996 and 2003 world cups it was because of Sachin's Major contribution we had come to Semi Final and Finals respectively. Otherwise we would not gave been qualified for even quarter finals.

Kapil was a part of great team where allmost everyone had major contributions.

In case of sachin several times he was the lonely person who contributes and others fail

[Nakeeran]

Kapil is above Sachin just for that fact that he held world cup in his hands once whereas Sachin has never done that.......

It is not in one person's hand to get world cup. When all of the players have some contribution then only this world cup or any other cup is possible.

If u see 1996 and 2003 world cups it was because of Sachin's Major contribution we had come to Semi Final and Finals respectively. Otherwise we would not gave been qualified for even quarter finals.

Kapil was a part of great team where allmost everyone had major contributions. In case of sachin several times he was the lonely person who contributes and others fail

Stand corrected.

Gavaskar was out of form during that entire worldcup83. Besides, he was never a match winner as regards One dayers

Srikanth was just coming up but never consistent

Mohinder Amarnath - Man of greatest comebacks - Yes, he was the only guy really worthy of mentioning but again , he was not a specialist one day player

Sandeep Patil - Excellent eye & terrific hitter but was not consistent

Yashpal Sharma - 100 % team man but not a great player

Kirti Azad - Up coming

Ravi Shastri - Was jut part of the team but didnt play many matches

Kirmani - GREATEST KEEPER OF INDIA

Binny - Bits & pieces but good swing bowler

Madan lal - Same like Binny but a committd cricketer

NOW ON WHAT GROUNDS U ARE SAYING THAT KAPIL HAD A TEAM O F GREAT GUYS :shock:

LET ME TELL U :

Before this series, we were badly battered by Imran in Pakistan . Indians had no clue to his INDIPPER

A series was played before the world cup in WI against that mighty Marhal, Robers, Holding, Garner - We lost the series 0-2 but the tough experience we had with WI enabled us to have a better match practice

The first match in 83 world cup was won by India surprisingly against the WI . :shock: This was just a start

KAPIL PLAYED A MATCH WINNING KNOCK & THIS SHOULD BE RATED THE BEST EVER KNOCK PLAYED BY AN INDIAN . HE SCORED 183 NOT OUT RECOVERING FROM A PRECARIOUS 17 FOR 5 AGAINST ZIMBABWE .

THIS MATCH WAS THE CATALYST FOR THE ENTIRE SUCCESS . THIS GAVE HUGE CONFIDENCE TO THE TEAM & THEY STARTED BELIEVEING THAT WE CAN ALSO WIN .

SUCCESS FOLLOWED SUCCESS.

ULTIMATELY, IT WAS KAPIL's MOTIVATING CAPTAINCY , WHICH WON THE WORLD CUP FOR INDIA :D

IF NOT 100% , 80% CREDIT SHOULD GO TO KAPIL BECAUSE HE BROUGHT TOGETHER , A DEMORALISED TEAM ESPECIALLY AFTER THE POUNDING FROM IMRAN & WEST INDIES BEFORE HE TOOK CHARGE .

THIS IS WHAT LEADERSHIP IS ALL ABOUT & THATS WHY KAPIL SHOULD BE RANKED AS THE BEST .

KAPIL EXCELLED IN BOWLING
KAPIL EXCELLED IN BATTING
KAPIL BROUGHT US THE WORLD CUP

WHAT ELSE DO U NEED FURTHER TO PROVE ABOUT KAPIL :evil:

[P_R]

Kapil was a part of great team where allmost everyone had major contributions. I disagree. As Nakkeeran has pointed out, the team was rather ordinary. Everybody played a small part at some point of time.

Ours was truly a world cup won by a team not by Individual stardom (like '96 and '03 where Sachin took us all by himself). No-one in the team was great. I think it must been a news like how we were pleasantly surprised to see Kenya nmake it to the '03 semis.

But with 12 wickets at 20.12 apiece and a batting average of 60.6 Kapil led from the front in 1983. In my opinion he should have been the man of the series. Amarnath was of course instrumental in the last two matches. Even today it is widely acknowledged that Kapil catching Richards was the turning point of the final. And the 175* ( Nakkeeran, not 183 , that was Ganguly in Taunton) is arguably the match that turned the Indian team on its head.

That said, it would be really difficult to place Kapil ahead of Sachin in terms of sheer bowling/batting genius. Compared to his contemporaries (like Botham,Imran) it would be tough to call him the best. he never dominated the opposition like Akram or Ambrose.

He never ever did justice to his batting talent (the 175* was his only ton in 198 innings). There are two innings I wish to recall. One is this century that helped draw the test in Post-of-Spain in 83 (http://www.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/1980S/1982-83/IND_IN_WI/IND_WI_T2_11-16MAR1983.html). The other is the match (http://www.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/1992-93/IND_IN_RSA/IND_RSA_T3_26-29DEC1992.html) in test is SA in 1992 where Donald killed us. From an ugly 6/31 he made a century that helped us get past 200 (though we lost the match). These were shows of his matchless grit and tenacity. But it would be difficult to place him above Sachin.

[nilavupriyan]

kapil dev as a motivater and allorunder is a step above sachin i believe!

if we havent won 1983 world cup...the fate of indian cricket is unimaginable...may be like the present hockey team :oops:

its that win motivated youngters like sachin to get into the game...hats of kapil :clap:

[selvakumar]

PR,
I think the points of yourself and thiru anna match ! Thiru anna says no one can win a WC singlehandedly and the entire team should contribute.

I still believe that the team we had in 83 is lot better than the one that we had in 96 and 03. As you said, Kapil was a great motivator and he lead from the front which made the entire team perform well in that series (if not with one-man army kind of stuffs, but with everyone playing well in bits and pieces)

[nilavupriyan]

PR,
I think the points of yourself and thiru anna match ! Thiru anna says no one can win a WC singlehandedly and the entire team should contribute.

I still believe that the team we had in 83 is lot better than the one that we had in 96 and 03. As you said, Kapil was a great motivator and he lead from the front which made the entire team perform well in that series (if not with one-man army kind of stuffs, but with everyone playing well in bits and pieces)

surely..full of all rounders..everyone are fit i guess...great fielding team..wow..roger binny' is the best i guess!

mohinder,madan lal,kapil ..all rounders

[ajaybaskar]

Aamir khan :D :D :D