KR's new hindi movie - "Mukhbir"

[vanavil]

KR is doing a new hindi movie titled "Mukhbir"(Meaning 'Spy') which is directed by Mani Shankar (the man who directed 16 December, Tango Charlie).. It stars Samir Dattani, sunil Shetty, Om Puri.. Madhushree has sung a song in that movie.. It is slated to be released in the month of August.. So the Audio should be out this month..

Hope KR's career in Hindi kicks off with this movie.. :D

[Sanjeevi]

He had done his work superbly for his previous hindi venture "Grahan"

[njv]

Yeah, KR ruling HFM and Himesh ruling TFM - Music wins. Like KH said, movies and cricket has done a lot for national integrity than anything else :)

[MADDY]

He had done his work superbly for his previous hindi venture "Grahan"

come on u must be joking......it was all IR's tunes.......chup chup ho jaye hum chup song was just a remake of a IR-song where khushboo sings the song on the stage( i forgot the song name)........it was a shameful effort from KR really........

[rashid2raj]

Yeah, KR ruling HFM and Himesh ruling TFM - Music wins

KR rules HFM & Himesh ruling TFM.. are you joking ??? :?

Himesh hasn't even made one movie in TFM adhukkula rule pannuraroo.. ?? :lol:

[kamal133]

He had done his work superbly for his previous hindi venture "Grahan"

come on u must be joking......it was all IR's tunes.......chup chup ho jaye hum chup song was just a remake of a IR-song where khushboo sings the song on the stage( i forgot the song name)........it was a shameful effort from KR really........

Not really maddy. Tamil song was also done by KR (still md was IR).

[Sanjeevi]

He had done his work superbly for his previous hindi venture "Grahan"

come on u must be joking......it was all IR's tunes.......chup chup ho jaye hum chup song was just a remake of a IR-song where khushboo sings the song on the stage( i forgot the song name)........it was a shameful effort from KR really........

Not really maddy. Tamil song was also done by KR (still md was IR).

Appadi podu aruvala :lol:

Purinchutha MADDY :D

Anyway Grahan has two songs which remaked from 1) Netru vantha katru (Kanmani) 2) a Enakkoru Magan Pirappan song

[MADDY]

any link to support this? cos when i accused kamal of intentionally insulting ARRahman , mods closed the thread calling it as junk without links....so, pls gimme a link man...

its not IR nor ARR but it is links which rule in this forum.....moreover, whole world knows KR took help from IR for Grahan which is why he was never approcahed again by any director in hindi(xcept mani shnkar)........

[vanavil]

But KR did bcakground score for some hindi movies after Grahan.. Raju Chacha, Split wide open to name a few... So we can't really say that KR was never approched by any hindi director..

Sadly KR has a very low repeat rate with directors and production houses. JD-Jerry, Alagamperumal, madras talkies, Kavithalaya, Shashilal Nair(Dir of Grahan),Kamal(he almost directed Kadhala Kadhala and the trailer of Marudhanayagam) - nobody chose KR for their next ventures inspite of him giving good numbers for these people.. Only Sundar C and Manishankar have worked with KR for more than one movie. Is it KR's attitude that is playing the spoil sport?? he seems mellowed down a lot in the recent India Glitz interview.. Hope his career kickstarts becuase he is one the few talented MDs available in both Hindi and Tamil.

[MumbaiRamki]

To update...
It is KR's nature to be calm always ..He was approached by Nair for "Ek choti seHindi" and few hindi movies but since they were semi-porn stuff,KR avoided them.

In saregma's website ,he has said that he has liked Roja's songs very much and he likes snehthiye song too .

Not many people know that for three Roses ,the actual song situations and the theme of it was planned by KR - The director absolutely no input on that -He was cheated for the same movie for $$$

He may sound a bit arrogant ,but in my opinion he gives honest opinions of what he feels

[MumbaiRamki]

Is the audio already released?
http://www.indiafm.com/stills/partiesnevents/Audio_release_of_Mukhbir/index.html
I cld not see the images ,though!

[dinesh2002]

ramki,u mean Roja Album by ARRahman & Sneghithiye Album by Vidhyasagar :shock:

[MumbaiRamki]

No snehithiye from alaipauthey ,..It was there in karthik raja lounge web page ..i guess it was removed now

[kameshratnam]

A lot of us forgetting the song "Kehethe jisko" song from Grahan and "dil Mera" song from MITR..

Both these are classical in their ways and are no way inferior to top hindi songs

The tune, orchestration are in the highest level.

Its sad we dont recognise talent....

[MADDY]

Its sad we dont recognise talent....

especially, when it comes from raja family right?? yeppa, KR success agalainnu evalavo oru aadangam IR fansukku ellam......i really pity u guys.....only word i have for u guys is, YSR will reach top one day.....gotta be happy with that :D .....rahman's era will be sandwiched betn 2 rajas..... :lol:

i really cannot see anythin great in KR.....come on guys give me a break, YSR, Vidyasagar,Harris jeyaraj,vijay antony, Himesh are all way better than KR......i'm really surprised that u guys even think he is better than ARR.....gosh, ghana better than Brazil :?

[rsubras]

Ullasam and Dum dum dum are two top class efforts from Karthik raja, not to forget the Uyyalala opening (from Pandian)

Sadly he didnt blossom as much as his younger brother did.... probably as some one here pointed out, his attitude might be the reason..

[Sanjeevi]

Oru song Orey song enna eppothu kettalum mei marakka seyyum. Athu

Un Perai Sonnalae Ul Nakkil Thithikumae - Dum Dum Dum

Mind blowing music

[thumburu]

Even KR's "Album" had many memorable melodies.
"Chellame chellam" still rings sweet. Is there any better melody than "kaadhal vanoli" released around that time say 2003?
"Kaadhal vanoli" starts with Karaharapriya and beautifully morphs into GowriManohari scale when Sujatha starts "kaadhal vanoli" wow!!! simply mesmerizing!!!
KR definitely deserves a top berth among TFM nd HFM MDs

[Sanjeevi]

Yes thumburu "kaadhal vanoli" is very sweet melody. I like it very much along with "Chellamai chellam"

[aruvi]

Of KR's compositions, I like Chellama Chellam/Kadhal Vanoli...but I suppose, I like them for lyrics as well.
But he needs an attitude change and certainly needs to reduce arrogance. Just because 'daddy' was a once upon a time big-shot doesn't mean you look down on others. I am happy to hear about him saying he liked Roja. Pleased to hear him admit to listening to Rahman finally:-)


Maddy,
I am surprised that Vijay Antony would even be in a list that has the likes of Vidyasagar. The latter has done some excellent albums, though Tamil industry failed to use it. His Mallu albums from a few years back rocked. I guess he is staying away from Mallu for financial reasons.

Vijay Antony is just hype. His interview in newstodaynet.com(yesterday) contradicts his music. I liked Nenjaakootil from Dishoom. Otherwise, all other numbers paled. I know Dylamo was a hit, but then, so was O Podu:-)

[MADDY]

Maddy,
I am surprised that Vijay Antony would even be in a list that has the likes of Vidyasagar

but aruvi, i really respect him cos he is doin well without any support.....just compare him and KR......KR is a big flop case, we all know, he doesent want to work........still whole of IR's fans support him to the hilt and try to bring him as big as YSR.......still he falls flat , ippo sollunga vijay antony deserves some respect or not.....

[aruvi]

Maddy,

http://www.newstodaynet.com/04jul/ss2.htm

The above is the link to the interview. I can't help but think that he is a noncommitted musician, for various reasons. I tend to follow interviews, if not their music immediately, of musicians. Let's see what the future holds for him.

I agree with you about IR's children. They had a platform and ready-made fans. But of these 3 children, KR's music knowledge is high, though he has a poor character(at least, from what one can gather from hearsay and interviews). If he overcomes his ego, he might go places.

[MrJudge]

MADDY MACHCHAN,

I have a question for you. Seems like you hate people getting opportunities because of someone close to the industry helping them. What about Sekar Kapur recommending your-MD for Bomaby Dreams? Didn't he get that opportunity because of the freindship he has with Sekar? What is your stand on that issue?

[MrJudge]

MADDY MACHCHAAN,

One more question for you. Mr. Manirathnam came to cine field without any experience and got opportunities just because his brother (GV) was a distributor and producer. So what is your stand on MR?

If you are not a hypocrite, you would have not accepted these people.

So tell me your honest answer.

[MusicIsLife]

May be KR and YSR got an easy route to get into cine music field, but how they establish themselves is their own choice and not IR influence. YSR is faring better owing to his ambitious nature.

[MusicIsLife]

and by the way, you can teach a trick not talent.

[aruvi]

Judge,

1) ARR's talent far outshines any film Shekar has done. It was his music in Dil Se that fascinated ALW and not his association with Shekar Kapur. By the time Bombay Dreams came in, ARR was a national icon and certainly international if you count his reach in other countries where Bollywood music is popular. Here is how recommendation works. IR gave Nanda to YSR. I doubt ALW was responsible for the other international projects ARR did, or will do in the future. ARR came up solely due to his work/talent.

2) When MR wanted to join the cine field, he didn't go to GV. He approached other producers and did small movies. He gave a blockbuster film in 86 and followed up with hits till 92. He as a director gained more popularity and GV was more popular as maniratnam's bro until Mani did films for him.

MR was lucky in the sense that he came in the 80s. One can overcome a couple of flops. But that's not the case nowadays, for anyone. I am surprised at the suggestion. GV as a producer became popular in the 90's, but pls correct me if I am wrong on that.

Musicislife,

Talent can be taught. Why else would we have horrible actors that are popular stars? It just takes about ten years to learn the trick. Then they become talented. It's just a fact that IR's children are in the field due to him and though YSR is popular(so was Deva at one time), the other 2 are surviving on his name. I am not questioning KR's musical knowledge, but his output as far as film songs are concerned, have never been appreciated by the mass. Likewise, that Bhavatharini is a poor singer is not a secret. But she won a national award. Goes to show, you don't really need much talent, at least, in today's film industry.

[ssanjinika]

I thought KR had sung the song "yedho yedho ondru " from teh movie Enakku 20 Unakku 18 music by ARR.Its not true?Someone pls clarify.

[MADDY]

MADDY MACHCHAN,
I have a question for you. Seems like you hate people getting opportunities because of someone close to the industry helping them. What about Sekar Kapur recommending your-MD for Bomaby Dreams? Didn't he get that opportunity because of the freindship he has with Sekar? What is your stand on that issue?

this is beautiful rephrasing of my past arguements in judge's words......adhu eppadi? "Seems like you hate people getting opportunities because of someone close to the industry helping them" :lol: ......see, i have problems with star kids.....got it , direct sons and daughters of great people.......they do have a big plus over others as they start way ahead of others.....i dunno whether u r in S/W or support projects, if u r, then picture this, ur manager's son joins as team lead, and u sitting as a team member for 3 years.....appa theriyum idhellam.......and dont laugh guys, it is going to happen in future.....this hereditary thing is going to enter all the fields including IT one day.....

if u r going to compare ARR's frndship with shekar kapur and YSR's blood relations with IR, then i really cannot reply.......moreover, i dunt get that angry on ppl. like Vivek oberoi,hrithik roshan, shahid kapur as their dads were not and are not as big as Amitabh,Ilayaraja or the kapoors and would not have been so influential like these 3.........i'll put Maniratnam in this category too, being brother of producer GV and son Venus ratnam is not a big thing....u know wat i mean?? infact GV and Mani grew during the same time and GV could not have helped Mani to build a career......

last point i have is-> YSR is a brilliant kid, no doubt but the time he took to settle down-> 3-4 years and survived just bcos he is IR's son, which is totally unfair advantage IMHO.....

[MusicIsLife]

Aruvi
I dont agree, getting experienced is totally different having a talent or penchant of doing things, it should be naturally coming from within to creatively think differently. Probably we would be arguing it for ever, In my opinion NOBODY can teach talent, learning tricks hard way or easy way could be norm, but TALENT relies on more naturalistic instincts with a creative outset.

Getting introduced in a field especially like the ones in creative field is a herculean task, there are some times crucial circumstances, I dont agree to the fact that YSR is just liked coz of IR's son, he has got his own knack of getting to the public. KR has its style (may be IR'ish) owing to proximity and freedom. I will never compare them to ARR or IR. Let us not divulge on the fact that YSR is holding top charts with his recent string of movies, and would love to hear his songs with some amount of curiosity. As I had mentioned previously, coz of the TALENT, i would prioritize my curiosity to listen to IR followed by ARR followed by YSR (KR did not hold up that much for me, but when we talk of some good melodies and songs, i do like it).

Maddy
"I have problems with star kids"

You cannot help it, sometimes hard work of parents do help the kids. "Matha pitha karma makkalai saarum", you have to live with this. A person who emerges better in that the situation is much more remarkable.

[MusicIsLife]

i dunno whether u r in S/W or support projects, if u r, then picture this, ur manager's son joins as team lead, and u sitting as a team member for 3 years.....appa theriyum idhellam.......and dont laugh guys, it is going to happen in future.....this hereditary thing is going to enter all the fields including IT one day..

Nice Analogy, but will that person sustain, but the weakness would be right away show-cased and will not be successful.

3-4 years to settle: why was there a dearth of Music Directors? or was it everybody else was busy, so it ultimately fell with the one who did not have that many projects in hand and was willing to do just to sustain

[MusicIsLife]

Aruvi
"it just takes about ten years to learn the trick"

If somebody takes one decade to learn the trick
1. they will not be in the field
2. If they sustained for one decade (it has to do with either luck or talent)
3. You can be only lucky one or two times or opportunity knocks on the door a very few times. Grabbing it and holding on to it is all about timing.
4. You need to work-hard to keep it for "ten years" to your advantage.

[aruvi]

"If somebody takes one decade to learn the trick
1. they will not be in the field
2. If they sustained for one decade (it has to do with either luck or talent)
3. You can be only lucky one or two times or opportunity knocks on the door a very few times. Grabbing it and holding on to it is all about timing.
4. You need to work-hard to keep it for "ten years" to your advantage. "

Is KR still not in the field?:-) None of it applies to him, except perhaps having some talent. Yet those with more talent then him (YSR/BT) are still trying to find a foothold into the industry. He disappears and comes back. IR has done enough scouting and recommendation for all his kids.

YSR was introduced in 1996. He wasn't taken seriously till about 2002. I don't think any other MD can sustain that long without the tag of being IR's son.

The likes of Deva disappeared (talentless yet gave hits!, who at one time did 23 tamil films a year) when they didn't deliver hits. That is the life of people without strong backup.

Anyhow, as said, these 3 basically are there because they are IR's children. For all 3, I would say talent is secondary. Their last name is their fortune:-) And I mean that as a compliment.

[MrJudge]

Judge,

1) ARR's talent far outshines any film Shekar has done. It was his music in Dil Se that fascinated ALW and not his association with Shekar Kapur. By the time Bombay Dreams came in, ARR was a national icon and certainly international if you count his reach in other countries where Bollywood music is popular. Here is how recommendation works. IR gave Nanda to YSR. I doubt ALW was responsible for the other international projects ARR did, or will do in the future. ARR came up solely due to his work/talent.

2) When MR wanted to join the cine field, he didn't go to GV. He approached other producers and did small movies. He gave a blockbuster film in 86 and followed up with hits till 92. He as a director gained more popularity and GV was more popular as maniratnam's bro until Mani did films for him.

MR was lucky in the sense that he came in the 80s. One can overcome a couple of flops. But that's not the case nowadays, for anyone. I am surprised at the suggestion. GV as a producer became popular in the 90's, but pls correct me if I am wrong on that.

1. I am damn sure that Shekar Kapur was the one played Dil se song (chaiya chaiya) to ALW and he liked it. It came out in many interviews during BD initial days. So SK indeed introduced arr to ALW to get the BD project. I did not say that ALW was/is responsible for arr getting other projects.

2. Come on, you got to be kidding. I heard that GV was very popular during 80s when MR was not even there in the scene. His Sujatha Films was a fast growing distribution company at that time. Later he turned his distribution company into a production house. If I am not wrong, MR's first tamil film (Pagal nilavu) was indeed produced by GV.

[MrJudge]

this is beautiful rephrasing of my past arguements in judge's words......adhu eppadi? "Seems like you hate people getting opportunities because of someone close to the industry helping them" :lol: ......see, i have problems with star kids.....got it , direct sons and daughters of great people.......they do have a big plus over others as they start way ahead of others.....i dunno whether u r in S/W or support projects, if u r, then picture this, ur manager's son joins as team lead, and u sitting as a team member for 3 years.....appa theriyum idhellam.......and dont laugh guys, it is going to happen in future.....this hereditary thing is going to enter all the fields including IT one day.....

if u r going to compare ARR's frndship with shekar kapur and YSR's blood relations with IR, then i really cannot reply.......moreover, i dunt get that angry on ppl. like Vivek oberoi,hrithik roshan, shahid kapur as their dads were not and are not as big as Amitabh,Ilayaraja or the kapoors and would not have been so influential like these 3.........i'll put Maniratnam in this category too, being brother of producer GV and son Venus ratnam is not a big thing....u know wat i mean?? infact GV and Mani grew during the same time and GV could not have helped Mani to build a career......

last point i have is-> YSR is a brilliant kid, no doubt but the time he took to settle down-> 3-4 years and survived just bcos he is IR's son, which is totally unfair advantage IMHO.....

So now according to you, direct blood relations are not acceptable. Distant relatives are ok? What kind of logic is this? You can twist your tongue anyway you want man. I think you don't accpet YSR just because he is IR's son.

You should understand that nobody in this industry can get opportunities without doing any networking. Everybody does it at the level the best they can do. They will ask friends, relatives, people working/associated in the industry to get a break. One way or the other everybody gets some kind of help during the intial period.

YSR bagged projects (not-so-good-ones) because of his Dad's name during his initial days, that was some kind of recommendation. And arr got recommended (for BD) by SK and so was MR during his initial days. So instead of looking at how they bag thier projects and disapprove them, why can't you give credit based on their outputs? Who cares in what way one is related to? If you don't like YSR's albums, don't listen. It is as simple as that, that's what I do for arr's albums.

[MrJudge]

YSR was introduced in 1996. He wasn't taken seriously till about 2002. I don't think any other MD can sustain that long without the tag of being IR's son.

Well, this is the best example for not having facts right and twisting things the way you want.

Aravindan came out in 1997 not in 1996.

1998
* Velai

1999

* Poovellam Kettupar
* Unakkaga Ellam Unakkaga
* Kalyana Kalatta

2001

* Dheena
* Manadhai Thirudivittai
* Nandha
* Rishi
* Thulluvatho Illamai

You haven't taken him seriously even for PKP in 1999? Hmmmm......not even a film from 2001?

[aruvi]

Judge,

I recall reading an interview on Filmalaya with both KR and YSR featuring together soon after being introduced. That was in 1996. YSR came into the field at 16 years of age. That was 10 years back, if my math is right:-) I wasn't aware this required detective intelligence. Trust me, there is no NEED to twist facts. I had already told to be corrected on the GV front.

Shekar introduced the music of Rahman to ALW when he played Dilse. ALW wanted to know about popular Indian music at that time. Rahman was it. I think it's the music that impressed ALW, and not any recommedation by Shekar as first wrote.

Coming to MR...:-)!

This is coming in a circle. I will leave for the time being.

[MrJudge]

Judge,

I recall reading an interview on Filmalaya with both KR and YSR featuring together soon after being introduced. That was in 1996. YSR came into the field at 16 years of age. That was 10 years back, if my math is right:-) I wasn't aware this required detective intelligence. Trust me, there is no NEED to twist facts. I had already told to be corrected on the GV front.

Shekar introduced the music of Rahman to ALW when he played Dilse. ALW wanted to know about popular Indian music at that time. Rahman was it. I think it's the music that impressed ALW, and not any recommedation by Shekar as first wrote.

Coming to MR...:-)!

This is coming in a circle. I will leave for the time being.

How can we take his first interview as his introduction to tfm? I don't understand that. Aravindan was released in 1997. You and MADDY portray as if just because of IR's son, YSR was signed so many films. In 1998 nobody bothered to book him in spite of being IR's name attached to him. What does that tell you? From 1999 onwards he started showing off what he is capable of. But for you, only from 2002 he was taken seriously. No, this does not require any detective intelligence. But to twist facts, seems like you need special intelligence :)

My point is YSR bagged projects because of IR's name only for a few movies. He has been growing on his own for very long time now. And you guys still sing the same pallavi.

[kameshratnam]

Its quite sad that the fans of A R Rahman are not able to digest facts and its of no use arguing with them. You cannot argue with people who wont open their ears to whatever u say against their views or wishes.They have said nastry comments abt Harris Jayaraj and are not able tolerate Karthik and Yuvan..Lets leave them aside and we shall discuss good music in TF ..no matter whoever does it or gives it

[MusicIsLife]

MrJudge:
The movie Pagal Nilavu was produced by Satyajothi films not by GV if I am right. The first movie of MR was in Kannada (Pallavi Anu Pallavi) with Balumahendra doing the camera, Anil Kapoor in the lead role, but surely they dubbed it in tamil coz MR bcame famous with a string of hits.

Aruvi
KR gave a string of hits for the matter of fact, even if they were not hits, I guess they are still listenable today.

[MrJudge]

MrJudge:
The movie Pagal Nilavu was produced by Satyajothi films not by GV if I am right. The first movie of MR was in Kannada (Pallavi Anu Pallavi) with Balumahendra doing the camera, Anil Kapoor in the lead role, but surely they dubbed it in tamil coz MR bcame famous with a string of hits.

MusicIsLife:

I will check out the info about Pagal nilavu. Was GV involved in distributing the movie? Also his second movie 'Idaya kovil' was produced by Kovai thambi? Both these films were disasters at the BO. When Mouna ragam was launched by GV, he was not a successful director. Pallavi anu pallavi came out in tamil after very long time, I guess, after his Idayaththai irudaathe.

[inetk]

Mani's first was Pallavi Anupallavi (Kannada). Second was the Mohanlal starrer Unaru (Malayalam). Third was his first Tamil film, Pagal Nilavu. Followed by Idhaya Kovil. Incidentally, Unaru has IR's music, IIRR.

[thumburu]

If what aruvi says is as simple as being a celebrity's son or daughter that would fetch them movies, then MSV's son MSV Raja should have got the maximum movies. IR's sons whether KR or YSR can sustain only as long a their cassettes sell. It is all Money and mass hits. YSR has learnt the tricks of the trade and is doing well. KR 's last few albums didnt gel well with the mass and that is why he is sidelined. YSR shot to limelight only after the success of "Poovellam kettupaar"in 1999. His being a son of IR didnt guarantee him an instant success in 1997 Aravindhan. Infact expectations run high from these offsprings.
Today TFM is an open arena. People will welcome anybody who can give music that captures their interest and eyes. The list is growing with VijayAntony, Vidhyasagar, Sundar.C.Babu[He is the son of the illustrious father , veena legend Chittibabu]. But his visiting card is not his dad but his "fishy" song.

[vijayr]

I think being the son of celebrity is just one of the factors that helped YSR, but not the only one. Certainly his enthusiasm in working with directors and catering to their needs seemed to have been higher than that of KR which certainly helped him. Where the celebrity lineage helped him would have been in his initial few years when he did forgettable music for many films(roughly 1997-2002) but still kept getting opportunities before he made it big with Selvaraghvan.

I dont sympathize too much with KR for a couple of reasons. His attitude/enthusiasm from what I hear is'nt all that great. Second, his music lacks the individuality/freshness to pick up any attention. His arrangements are IRish and his tunes are pedestrian most of the time. To come up big in TFM, an unique presentation is needed. And then in some of his recent albums he himself has started singing which is another grave mistake. I sympathize in part due to the fact that he hasnt bagged any big projects that could probably inspire him more. But apart from that, most of his troubles are his own doing.

[MusicIsLife]

Pulikku piranthathu poonai aaguma? is an old saying, but some become poonai by character, some show their real characteristic eventually. It is all upto the sons to sustain what they want to.
Thumburu, you are right, it is much more difficult for IR's sons than other no-name person, coz
1. The expectations are too high
2. Comparison to the legend
3. Efforts/hardwork to be different and yet connect

The only easy thing is getting in touch with the right people (networking becomes easier).

[MusicIsLife]

MrJudge,
Pagal Nilavu was an average hit, Murali surfaced in that movie pretty much!! not a disaster. Echo did some decent business with the cassatte sales, but not the best like other IR hits. I have no more intention to digress. Let us talk about KR

[MADDY]

Its quite sad that the fans of A R Rahman are not able to digest facts and its of no use arguing with them. You cannot argue with people who wont open their ears to whatever u say against their views or wishes.They have said nastry comments abt Harris Jayaraj and are not able tolerate Karthik and Yuvan..Lets leave them aside and we shall discuss good music in TF ..no matter whoever does it or gives it

FYI , aruvi is not a ARR fan and i'm the only ARR fan who doesent like YSR here.....okvaaa? all ARR fans like YSR so much........summa indha forumma pathi theriyama pesakoodathu..........and HJ bashing is obvious, he steals from ARR, wat do u xpect? konji kulava solluriya?

moreover y do IR-family fans like u have never appreciated ARR's music, if u think u r so neutral?

judge machan, ellam vittudu pa, just answer this simple question? y do all IR fans support YSR???
and y is it 90% of yuvan fans are IR's hardcore-family fans??

can u prove to me that yuvan's popularity is solely bcos of his music and not even 5% bcos of IR's fans???

[rajdes]

maddy, nice mathematics there. I am sure you have devoted your time to analysing such important statistics and come up with these percentages. Good job, keep it up. Can you also tell me what percentage of Fardeen Khan fans are Feroz Khan fans and what % of Feroz Khan fans support Fardeen? I ask because you having enough time to research about such a wide and varied database as IR fans, you should be able to easily sample something like Feroz Khan fan-base, of which I know only one unfortunate member, a distant cousin of my father's, who,too, in a equally unfortunate incident, died in an accident( I am not saying the accident was related to his being Feroz Khan fan)

[MumbaiRamki]

Does mukbir have songs ?NO says this link
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/fr/2006/03/17/stories/2006031701880100.htm

ANyway i saw some other links which points to Audio Release of Mukhbir-Probably we have to wait

[rajdes]

KR did the music for a Manishankar film, commisioned by the Govt. Of AP to commemorate 200 years of Secunderabad. It was shown in the event held last month in a public ground. A grand total of 200 people or so(most of them security personnel) attended.Not sure a commercial release is intended. Is this the same as Mukbir? Might be - Manishankar has had two colossal flops after 16 December - not at all sure any Bombay financier/producer will touch him with bargepole - it is not as if he is Subhash Ghai - even Ghai has had trouble starting a movie after that colossal exercise in stupidity a.k.a Kisna

[MADDY]

it is not as if he is Subhash Ghai - even Ghai has had trouble starting a movie after that colossal exercise in stupidity a.k.a Kisna

hayyo hayyo, wat all idiocy we have to post and whom all to criticise if u want to support KR and IR's family........thank god i'm not a IR-family fan........ :lol:

[rajdes]

Maddy, You are amazing, man! Read my post again
1. Nowhere in my post is there any support for KR
2. Calling Kisna an exercise in stupidity is what most sane persons would do. If you think otherwise, then...well...I dont want to point out the obvious...
3. I said Mukhbir was not even a commercial release and if it is what I think it is, I have said hardly 200 people watched it. If this is support for KR, well, you need to have your brains examined.
In your urgency to bad-mouth me, you have not even paused to think if there is any logic in your reply. Never mind, I am sure no one expects logic from you here.
4. Name-calling and bad-mouthing leads a discussion nowhere.
Have fun though - I am not going to join your juvenile debates anymore - and I am sure discerning posters here can understand what is idiocy and what isn't.

[MADDY]

rajdes, how dreamy is ur thought that everyone will overlook ur unneccessary criticism on a ARR film(Kisna) in trying to search reasons for KR's failures....dude, dunt think u r too intelligent and great that ur posts should not commented upon.....come down to earth, its after all a nice place to live in :lol:

my 1000th post in this forum, perfectly symbolised by IR fan-ARR fan arguement, which is wat i have been doing all these years.........

[rajasaranam]

rajdes, how dreamy is ur thought that everyone will overlook ur unneccessary criticism on a ARR film(Kisna) in trying to search reasons for KR's failures....dude, dunt think u r too intelligent and great that ur posts should not commented upon.....come down to earth, its after all a nice place to live in :lol:

my 1000th post in this forum, perfectly symbolised by IR fan-ARR fan arguement, which is wat i have been doing all these years......... :2thumbsup: :cool2: :bluejump:

Grow Up MADDY rajdes is not an IR fan he is only a neutral music fan.
And how does kisna relate to ARR he did just two songs while the other songs and bgm wre composed by Ismail durbar :huh:
Now it seems you will relate a movie to ARR even if he attends the pooja of the movie and jump on others if they criticise those movies :lol:
SAD that you havent matured at all being a 22 year old you whine and complain like a 10 year old :P

congrats for that 1000 post mark :clap: but how useful were those posts is entirely different matter :twisted:

[dinesh2002]

RS,Kisna BGMs r by ARRahman....

[MADDY]

Grow Up MADDY rajdes is not an IR fan he is only a neutral music fan.
And how does kisna relate to ARR he did just two songs while the other songs and bgm wre composed by Ismail durbar :huh:
Now it seems you will relate a movie to ARR even if he attends the pooja of the movie and jump on others if they criticise those movies :lol:
SAD that you havent matured at all being a 22 year old you whine and complain like a 10 year old :P

congrats for that 1000 post mark :clap: but how useful were those posts is entirely different matter :twisted:

RS, i very well recognise IR-fans.....u guys cannot praise IR without criticising ARR........and rajdes is a IR-fan, dont try to fool me....only neutral guys i can see around in this forum are vijayr and sureshmech.....no body else.........

abt usefulness of posts, i'm not here to create IT professionals or Management gurus, so all my 1000 posts were for my happinesss and giving a very different perspective to a topic from my angle, that's it......

[rajdes]

RS, ignore MADDY. One day, he will grow up. He is more to be pitied than censured.
Maddy, Ippo enna. Naan IR-fan-nu sollanum avvaluvu dhaane. Yes, I am an IR-fan. Podhuma? Ennavo, IR Fan-nu sonna Bosnian Terrorist-ndra maadhiri pesareenga?If you equate IR-fan with ARR-hater, KR-fan etc, I can only pity you.

Lastly, for one last time, I will try to drill things into your adamantly solid head:
1. Criticising Kisna or Subash Ghai or SJ Surya is not criticising ARR. Idhu kooda solli thaan puuriyanuma?
2. In my post that you are jumping hell to heaven about, I have not a) praised KR b) criticised ARR c) Hell, I have not even said anything negative about Subash Ghai. If anything, I have complimented him (look at the "even subash ghai.." sentence - thats a compliment man - I actually recognised his position as a respected producer/director there, which your adamant head is failing to see.)
3. If you still persist in your delusions, I dont care.
4. I am not waiting for a neutral-fan label from you - or anyone else for that matter.

[rajdes]

Maddy, btw, any progress on the Feroz-Fardeen statistics? C'mon, dont disappoint me. If YOU can't do this, I wont be able to find another competent and willing resource, who could research, analyse and publish this important piece of statistic. Please...

[MADDY]

If you equate IR-fan with ARR-hater, KR-fan etc, I can only pity you.

sadly, that is the truth in this forum atleast........maybe 1 or 2 exceptional IR fans who dunt like his sons......but very few i know of......


Lastly, for one last time, I will try to drill things into your adamantly solid head:
1. Criticising Kisna or Subash Ghai or SJ Surya is not criticising ARR. Idhu kooda solli thaan puuriyanuma?

ok agreed, fair enuf point......persons criticising subhash ghai or SJ Surya doesent mean criticising ARR, but y is that always IR fans only criticise Subhash Ghai,Maniratnam,SJSuryah??? its pretty strange right?? or is it just confessions of a pitiable mind? :lol: .......

this is tfm df, so i dunt think we need to discuss abt fardeen or feroz.......

[Renault]

Poor Karthik Raja.. there is bickering even in a forum thread named after his forthcoming movie... Leave his thread atleast guys.

MADDY, why don't you create a curtain raiser in JEOK thread ..which is in your honest opinion... as it is a kind of ARR comeback in romantic tamil films... I am expecting it like Kangalaal Kaidhi sei (music wise)

Karthik Raja paavam paa.. vittudunga..

[MADDY]

JEOK as KKS :cry: , yenga padam varathukku munnadiye vai vekkuringa? indha padamavadhu hit-agatum, illana enga aalu pack panni Mumbai kelamba vendiyadhudhan :D

honestly, i dont hold anything against YSR and KR.......i really enjoy some of their songs.......infact loosu penne from vallavan is my current fav.........but i really oppose this hereditary thing coming in all fields esp in India........

but i guess i have taken this too far :oops: just like my kamal hatred, i promise renault i wont take this star-sons topic again in TFM section.... :wave:

[krish244]

found this link about Mukhbir!

http://www.planetbollywood.com/displayArticle.php?id=071406024424

It says there are two songs composed by Karthik Raja & Ilaiyaraaja (I feel thats a typo in the article...it should have been "Karthik Raja, son of Ilaiyaraaja" :) )

thanks,

Krishnan

[kameshratnam]

KR has given an interview in this week's Kumudham Tamil Magazine. It was refreshing to see him praise his brother. When yuvan came into TFM..no one thought that he would reach this level and KR was always been potrayed as the next prince after Raaja, which was not happened. As Vijayr said KR is the only person who can be held responsible for his(KR's)state today.

[app_engine]

http://www.kumudam.com/magazine/Kumudam/2006-07-19/pg9.php
This is the link to Kumudam interview...

[aruvi]

Came into the thread after a long time, and checked some posts and skimmed some posts. Of them, I have to agree with what Vijayr said, 100%.

I also read KR's interview on Kumudam. Interesting point about Raja's house. About 10 years back, I read an article of IR's about his house(Kumudam was doing a special series on musicians' residences.) The article has gotten me curious again. That article too, went into great detail about the neatness of his place.

[MumbaiRamki]

Saw NaaLai this weekend ...
KR's songs are totally wasted ..all songs are neatly picturised but poorly positioned..atleast the good picturisation made people to watch the songs ...Only Oru Maatram was placed aptly ...

KR should have been confused with the director's editing Jerks in the second half and that reflected in the BGM..the first half had an good BGM though ....Lets wait for MM and hope they use the songs in a nice way ..

PS : DId you notice ?In Uyir JS has used Sedhu's music quite a lot !Watch out for teh strings and the piano bit .....

[jaiganes]

Ramki!
That music bit that you are talking abt in Uyir is the same thing that is used in Kadhal also. I had posted abt this music in IR's BGMs. I have an inkling that it might be from IR's symphony. I have heard this music even in some hindi movies. Check out my post in IR's BGMs thread.

[MumbaiRamki]

There are three bits in Uyir

1.String bit 1-Used in Kadhal also ,appears in Taal movie .I came to know this is a Loops .

2.String Bit 2 - Appears when Vikram confesses his love to heroine in sedhu (library scene) .Appears at many times in Uyir.

3.Piano Bit 1-(Same appears in library scene) .Appears just once in Uyir .I dont think this is loops .

[jaiganes]

have you seen "Mugam", a film with Nasser as the lead? I saw it in Devi bala theatre. that movie had some of the same "loops".Wondering..... :roll:

[gganesh]

I was dumbfound to see some Karthick Raaja stuff doing rounds in the hub. But went berserk as no one mentioned about "Yaaridam Solvaen" from "Righta Thappa"...