KR's Manathodu Mazhaikalam

[Sanjeevi]

Manathodu Mazhaikalam Audio released. :D

Any review??

[MumbaiRamki]

i listened to one song in promos ..pudhidhai by sadhana ..it was v good

[Sanjeevi]

Hi MumbaiRamki, nice to hear KR's return. I am expecting detailed review.

[popeye11]

Check out the songs here

http://tamil.galatta.com/entertainment/music/songs.asp?albumid=231&movie=Manathodu%20Mazhaikalam#

Good on first listening

[popeye11]

Trademark KR Style and Rythms..

Hats off to KR for sticking to his style..

Good one on the whole. Picks will be Kangal Theuthe, Unakum Enakum, Puthithai, Ayiram Vanavil and Welcome ...

Oops i ended up listing all songs as pick of the album..

Worth listening.

:thumbsup:

[Sanjeevi]

Audio Release Function

http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/gallery/Events/9678.html

http://cinesouth.com/masala/hotnews/new/13052006-4.shtml

http://tamil.cinesouth.com/masala/hotnews/new/13052006-4.shtml

[inetk]

...and here goes the 100 words!

http://www.milliblog.blogspot.com/

[Sanjeevi]

I am currently listening MM songs and will give a review later.

[rajasaranam]

KR a true follower of IR's legacy..... :thumbsup:

[dinesh2002]

Pani Vizhum Kaalam is the best..... i dunno what is in this Madhushree's voice,it just spells magic!! its great to see Madhushree singging in tamil songs nowdays too...

[Sanjeevi]

http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/22475.html

Karthikraja back in full flow
IndiaGlitz [Wednesday, May 17, 2006]



Maestro Ilayaraja's legacy in Tamil film music continues in the form of his sons Karthikraja and Yuvanshankarraja.

The former began with a bang in movie Ullasam. Unfortunately he lost his steam in between and a few bad outings did not help his cause.

In contrast, Yuvan had a good start and followed it up with successive hits teaming up with directors like Selvaraghavan and Vishnuvardhan.

But Karthikraja seems to have found his bearings now.

He has got Naalai and Manadodu Mazhaikalam lined up for release . Interestingly tunes have come good in both the albums and they are reporting good sales.

Karthikraja is thrilled with his new found fame.

He is all keen to continue the good run.

[MumbaiRamki]

Ok Some points which i liked in MM

1.Unakkum Enakkum -Quite obviously a farewell.Previously farewell songs used to be sad songs .Now the trend has changed.While ySR changed it with SandaKozhi ,Kr does it with MM-though the actual credit should go to the respective director .The song is not a sad song like 'Manase' from April mathathil or a dappanguthu from SandaKozhi .The song itself seems to be a classical with the two interludes varying too much ,with the Second interlud being a celtic one .The humming is just fantastic .Cool One 9/10

2.Pani Vizhum -
This songs follows the 'Kadhal vannila" from album.The song starts with premji's singing followed by KR and Madhushree singing with very strong Base Lines .Hindustani seems to be the currrent favourite of karthik raaja and that shows in the humming .The second interlude always is intresting .As far as KR is considered ,he always makes teh second interlude quite different from the rest and the first lines after the interlude goes with less percusion or a totally different percusion arrangement .The lyrisct has aptly simplified the words without going over board.In short 'The song" of the album .10/10

3.Aayiram Vaanavil - Starting with 80s raaja interludes,this song will immediately impress the father of a teen age guy .For a guy who listens songs while on a travel ,this song will raise eyebrows and move his fore finger towards the fast forward button.Surprisngly this song seems something like 'Flashback' song and totally out of tune with other songs .But the melody is good and the use of Madhu Balakrishnan itself suggets its an off-colour song in the movie .If the song is anything other than a love song ,8.5/10 ..otherwise 5/10

4.Kangal theduthe-Sadhana and Jassie -I thought 'My god !" .Thankfully this song is damn different .Seems to be a "Classical midnight" number by looking at the lyrics and the use of Jassie Gift for this classical song. I guess fans will be vertically spilt between the two versions .For me Sadhana's versions is better .Cool ,different song .8.5/10

5.WelCome to -The initial Rappish sound seems to be a continuation of "jalaDeepam" from mercury Pookal .Of course any kid would say this is a "Mindless-bizarre lit" disco song .Thankfully there are no loops ,no music that will make you visit the ENT specialist.The High Pitch humming is something ,i like very much with KR-from Onnu rendu in kudaikkul Mazhai .The interlude is typically 16-Decemberish .One good thing about this song is the rthym changes every now and then .This song could have been more "Hard",though no would press fast forward for this song 8/10

[dinesh2002]

im not sure anyone realise this,esp the hardcore IR & Family fans, Kangal Tedhuthe is simply KR's version of Rut Agaiyre - 1947 Earth/Macha Machiniye - Star.

[Music4Ever]

But, Dinesh, wasn't macha machiniyE itself inspired from IR's andhi mazhai pozhigirathu from Raja Paarvai?

[MumbaiRamki]

i would rather say "kangal theduthe" is KR's version "thavikiran" from time .

[dinesh2002]

But, Dinesh, wasn't macha machiniyE itself inspired from IR's andhi mazhai pozhigirathu from Raja Paarvai?

huh???!!!!!! :shock: :shock: NOPE!

[MumbaiRamki]

Neither Kangal Theduduthe NOR Machiniye were inspired !!!

[Sanjeevi]

KR has done Kallaoori Manne by reassembling the song "Muthamida vendum Muthamida vendum" of Vanjinathan.

Almost all the lines has come use this tune with some slight changes. This proves what is KR, i think. I mean his excellent skill.

[MADDY]

KR has done Kallaoori Manne by reassembling the song "Muthamida vendum Muthamida vendum" of Vanjinathan.

Almost all the lines has come use this tune with some slight changes. This proves what is KR, i think. I mean his excellent skill.

:lol: ....sorry could not stop laughing and posting.....

[Sanjeevi]

KR has done Kallaoori Manne by reassembling the song "Muthamida vendum Muthamida vendum" of Vanjinathan.

Almost all the lines has come use this tune with some slight changes. This proves what is KR, i think. I mean his excellent skill.

:lol: ....sorry could not stop laughing and posting.....

:lol: unnathan ethir parthukondu irunthen :lol:

I don't find anything mistake to reuse his tune for his another song in a different manner. Both songs has different moods, previousis long song while present is a farewell song. Oru thiramai venumla :D

[MumbaiRamki]

Yes -both the songs have some smiliaritiesboth in pallavi and in charaNam.But surpisngly i would'nt have found that unless somebody pointed out .Orchestration is totally different.

I think Nilavai Konjam kadhali and vathikuchchi have similar charnam.
SImilarly Nee than Dhesiya Geetham and one more ARR song has same charnam

ANyway cool stuff .

[Music4Ever]

Dinesh and Mumbai Ramki, Kangal Theduduthe has unmistakeable traces of Andhi mazhai. I also believe macha machinyE has subtle inspirations from Andhi mazhai, which is probably not immediately clear. Listen to both a few times.

[sentsbu1]

Been hearing the songs...its awesome...KR has come out with good numbers...Im sure the music will be a good hit... If the movie does well in the box-office, im sure KR will have lot of offers coming to him and he will defenitely come out well...

[dinesh2002]

Dinesh and Mumbai Ramki, Kangal Theduduthe has unmistakeable traces of Andhi mazhai. I also believe macha machinyE has subtle inspirations from Andhi mazhai, which is probably not immediately clear. Listen to both a few times.

brother,the thing is...both Anthi Mazhai & Rut Agaiyre are in my hearts,and i dun found any simularities between both...trust me...im a not a person who says ARR is 100% original,yes,he has got inspired like for Enna Vizha Azhage - Thanga padhakathil mellai...but Andhi Mazhai & Macha Machaniya is TOTALLY diff....not sure raga wise,but it doesnt strike a person when they listen to it and say " hey,it sounds like Anthi mazhai".its a whole diff story if that person is simply finding simple faults in ARR,then for them even both song beein based on same raga is already inspired! :lol: shockingly,i dun see u around when HJ or others simply direct lifts from ARR...y???? 8-)

anywayz,back to the original topic guys..... Pani Vizhum Kaalam song is a class....i love Madhushree's voice there!! :wink:

[Music4Ever]

"its a whole diff story if that person is simply finding simple faults in ARR,then for them even both song beein based on same raga is already inspired! shockingly,i dun see u around when HJ or others simply direct lifts from ARR...y???? "

We are getting nowhere with this kind of accusations, but still I have to point out that you are no different from others when you find "simple faults" with HJ's numbers while the whole world is enjoying them (e.g. kumari is a copy of ennuyir thozhiye etc etc). One should be able to write freely in this forum without the likes of you screaming at the slightest hint of similarity of one song with another. Just as something which seems like a subtle inspiration to me seems original to you, in the same manner, something which you think is a copy might seem only vaguely reminiscent of the original to me. These are all just opinions. Take it easy.

For the record, it was me who pointed out that Uyirin uyirE is inspired from the Desert Rose number by Sting and Cheb Mami. Why didn't you scream then? It works both ways, this accusation.

[krish244]

When I heard "Kangal Thedudhe" for the first time, a couple of things struck me instantly:

1) When jessie starts with "Vadhaname chandra bimbamo", it instantly captivated me. Whats the raagam used?

2) The way "Kangal Thedudhe" tune starts reminds me of some old song (it could be either IR or some hindi song)...but when I try to sing the later part of pallavi, I somehow end up singing the pallavi of "Aazham adhu aazham ayya" song. Dont ask me how :). Help me out guys.

I somehow never got reminded of "Andhi Mazhai" song when I heard this song. Dont know why its been compared to that song.

Thanks,

Krishnan

[rajasaranam]

M4E,

I too dont find any similarities between 'Machiniyae' and ' andhi mazhai' :? Can you point out in which way it seems inspired :?:

[inetk]

Now that its being pointed out, that Vadhaname...part sounds similar to the raagam used in the first interlude alaap in Andhi Mazhai. Wonderful usage, but.

Also, the first interlude of 'Pudhidhaai' (Pani vizhum) instantly takes me back to Pani vizhum malarvanam of IR, the pallavi specially. Salanaattai used again, after ages? Any knowledgeable person can comment on this, please?

[dinesh2002]

"its a whole diff story if that person is simply finding simple faults in ARR,then for them even both song beein based on same raga is already inspired! shockingly,i dun see u around when HJ or others simply direct lifts from ARR...y???? "

We are getting nowhere with this kind of accusations, but still I have to point out that you are no different from others when you find "simple faults" with HJ's numbers while the whole world is enjoying them (e.g. kumari is a copy of ennuyir thozhiye etc etc). One should be able to write freely in this forum without the likes of you screaming at the slightest hint of similarity of one song with another. Just as something which seems like a subtle inspiration to me seems original to you, in the same manner, something which you think is a copy might seem only vaguely reminiscent of the original to me. These are all just opinions. Take it easy.

For the record, it was me who pointed out that Uyirin uyirE is inspired from the Desert Rose number by Sting and Cheb Mami. Why didn't you scream then? It works both ways, this accusation.

try checking the thread where u said Uyirin Uyire & Desert rose,i said BOTH DOESNT SOUND ALIKE!! http://www.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=1058&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=510#484921do check it again!!! wut eva it is u say,Kumari is def another version of En Uyir Tozhiye! :lol:

BACK TO THE TOPIC!!

[Music4Ever]

"try checking the thread where u said Uyirin Uyire & Desert rose,i said BOTH DOESNT SOUND ALIKE!! http://www.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=1058&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=510#484921do check it again!!! "

Dear 17-year young Dinesh, good for you. Of course you pointed out that they both do not sound alike. The catch, however, is that you behaved differently this time around, when ARR was the focus. That is you preferred to accuse me, which you did not do in the earlier instance involving HJ!! Specifically, if you had cried hoarse that time you would have been consistent. I hope you get my drift. Anyway, no problem from my side.

"wut eva it is u say,Kumari is def another version of En Uyir Tozhiye!"

What ever you say, boss! However, you seem to be among a miniscule minority of cynics who share such a distorted view. Keep fantasizing :D

"I too dont find any similarities between 'Machiniyae' and ' andhi mazhai' Can you point out in which way it seems inspired "

RS, not overtly for sure. The tune is probably original. There is, arguably, perhaps, a trace of Andhi mazhai in macha machiniye particularly in the passage to the first interlude (where Gopalakrishnan does his stuff). That is, the first interlude of Macha machiniye can be replaced with the first interlude of Andhi Mazhai without any damage to the flow.

.....machinyE uchaththa kaattniyE.. then the first interlude of Andhi mazhai which goes

tada tada tada
tada tada tada
Aahhh aahhh (TVG stuff here).

I just felt like that on hearing macha machiniye and the recent KR song that's all.

For example, I don't see any resemblance between

Naan paarthadhilE avaL oruthiyaithAn

and

Pudhu maapillaiku nalla yogamada

but after IR pointed out it seems plausible. This is not to say I am anywhere near Isaignani, though :wink:

[dinesh2002]

"try checking the thread where u said Uyirin Uyire & Desert rose,i said BOTH DOESNT SOUND ALIKE!! http://www.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=1058&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=510#484921do check it again!!! "

Dear 17-year young Dinesh, good for you. Of course you pointed out that they both do not sound alike. The catch, however, is that you behaved differently this time around, when ARR was the focus. That is you preferred to accuse me, which you did not do in the earlier instance involving HJ!! Specifically, if you had cried hoarse that time you would have been consistent. I hope you get my drift. Anyway, no problem from my side.

"wut eva it is u say,Kumari is def another version of En Uyir Tozhiye!"

What ever you say, boss! However, you seem to be among a miniscule minority of cynics who share such a distorted view. Keep fantasizing :D

"I too dont find any similarities between 'Machiniyae' and ' andhi mazhai' Can you point out in which way it seems inspired "

RS, not overtly for sure. The tune is probably original. There is, arguably, perhaps, a trace of Andhi mazhai in macha machiniye particularly in the passage to the first interlude (where Gopalakrishnan does his stuff). That is, the first interlude of Macha machiniye can be replaced with the first interlude of Andhi Mazhai without any damage to the flow.

.....machinyE uchaththa kaattniyE.. then the first interlude of Andhi mazhai which goes

tada tada tada
tada tada tada
Aahhh aahhh (TVG stuff here).

I just felt like that on hearing macha machiniye and the recent KR song that's all.

For example, I don't see any resemblance between

Naan paarthadhilE avaL oruthiyaithAn

and

Pudhu maapillaiku nalla yogamada

but after IR pointed out it seems plausible. This is not to say I am anywhere near Isaignani, though :wink:

wut eva it is...in ur message there is a matter which u r totally wrong!!! im 18 now!!!! :lol: :lol: take itt cool brother,i wonder y ur commenting as if this matter is gonna be discussed in Parlimen :lol: :lol: im not sure y ur not accepting the fact that Kumari is indeed another version of En Uyir Tozhiye...its not new in HJ's database isnt it?? :wink:

and back to topic...[music4eva,stop replying non-KR matters here,go here for ARRvsHJvsYSR :
http://www.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=4403&start=570&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

Did madhushree sang for YSR or IR b4???

[Music4Ever]

OK, Dinesh, you are a 18 year old :wink: Kumari has traces of Ennuyir thozhiyE, accepted.

Coming back to the topic, the KangaL thEduthE also reminds me of another IR classic: Raathiriyil poothirukkum thAmarai-dhan peNNo. Perhaps it is a judicious mix of Andhi mazhai, raathiriyil poothirukum and macha machiniye (the last one is itself probably inspired from the first two).

[kavin]

kangal theduthe reminded me of the charanam portions of 'kadhal kasakudhayya' by IR from 'aan pavam' , not sure if i got the movie right.

[vasanth2006]

karthik raja come back with naalai and manathodu mazhaikalam.

it has some good numbers like pani vizhum kalam,kangal theduthey.

the starting ramji voice of the pani vizhum kalam is definitely reminds me the yuvan style of tune.(May be because of ramji's voice?).

however definitely Naalai is better album than manathodu mazhaikalam.

[Sanjeevi]

Music Review

Manadodu Mazhaikalam - In fine form
IndiaGlitz [Tuesday, July 04, 2006]
Congrats Karthik Raja for finding his form back, Though he made a promising beginning with movies like Ullasam, Aravindhan and Kadhala Kadhala, he faded away with some ordinary stuff in his consecutive movies. The young music-composer has taken his time to make a come back in a strong way.

Manadodu Mazhaikalam by Karthik has the substance and quality. With five songs sung by the likes of Sukhwinder Singh, Sadhana Sargam and Jassie Gift, he has cast a magic on the listeners. Good orchestration, peppy beats and catchy tunes find its place back in Karthik's works.

The movie stars Shaam, Nithya Das and Samiksha. It is being directed by Arputhan.

Kangal Theduthae Kavi Paduthae (Jassie Gift, Sadhana Sargam)

The vibrant Jassie Gift combines with Sadhana Sargam. It is an interesting combination. But it works, big time. The melodious tune accompanied by peppy beats make it work. Certainly Karthik Raja has proved that he has it in him to render catchy tunes. The music gives right space for lyrics. Jassie Gift has nothing much to do and it is Sadhana all the way.

Ayiram Vanavil ( Madhu Balakrishnan, Sadhana)

It's the title song of the album. With dholaks, tablas and violins used at its best, Karthik Raja has managed to recreate the feel of listening to his father's (Ilayaraja's) mesmerizing works of the late 1980s. Madhu Balakrishnan, perhaps the singer of the moment, and he shows his mettle. Sadhana is also in fine fettle. The class shows.

Panivizhum Kala (Karthik Raja, Premji, Madhusree)

A brisk song with Karthik himself rendering it in the company of Premji and Madhusree. Karthik Raja's husky but sharp voice combines with brisk Premji to create a new feel. Again a romantic song, the instrumentation by Karthik Raja deserves appreciation. He has tried a fusion of the East and West.

Welcome to Something (Sukhwinder Singh, Rahul Seth)

A foot-tapping number very apt to be played in disco floors. Peppy beats full of energy is the highlight of the number. Karthik seems to have been inspired by his young brother (Yuvan) in coming out with this number. Sukhwinder Singh gives life to the song with rap by Rahul Seth in between.

Unakku Enakkum (Saravanan, Priya, Ranjith, Priya, Reethu)

Perhaps the pick of the album. With no established singers, yet Karthik has managed to extract the best from them. It is a song which dwells on the days shared by friends in their college campus. Sure to catch the hearts of the youngsters specially students. Softly song but leaves a heavy impact on the listeners. Karthik's seems to have found his magic back.


http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/musicreview/7912.html

[buggle]

Any update about the movie? i think it is released.
Saw the review on Tamil murasu, it looks shaam acted well and karthick music also recognized in that review..

[vasanth2006]

Tommorrow(sep 22) it is releasing in TN.

it looks like college type and love failure movie.

[12bums]

http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/review/7912.html

[MumbaiRamki]

As in Raj TV today (promos ,interview)
Yes - i too feel the movie might be what it described.
A good thought that got entangled in 80s presentation....
Saw Kangal theduthe,Unakkum ENakkum - was a bit disappointed.
Also few scenes from the movies -looked a bit old fashioned - the old way of a glam doll ,no brainer girl falling in crush with a guy - all that ....

Even teh promos wren't attarctive -One more effort from KR goes to dust ?We will wait ...
EVen if it runs as Naalai ,KR will get few movies ...

[thumburu]

"KangaL thedudhe " obviously is the most catchy and impressive number in MM. bUT
MumbaiRamki, "KangaL thedudhe" is no way close to Thavikiren be it is scale or even rythms. The scale is close to "PanthuvaraaLi" . This scale has been done to death by IR. KR need not look for ARR for inspiration as there are so many IR numbers itself in this scale even in the 80's. Listen to "songs like "vizhi mel vizhi paarthirundhen", "deham sandhegam " , "How to name it" , Raja parvai modern concerto and many more in the same scale.
BTW KR's voice is rank bad. The other songs dont impress me.

[thumburu]

M4ever, even "andhi mazhai" is based on the Hindustani scale which is equivalent to our carnatic "PanthuvaraLi" . ARR's "Mada machiniye" also belongs to the same scale

[slperson1]

I think its a BIG INSULT to KR to say Pani Thuli reminds one of YSR music.If you go back to Naam Iruvar Namakku Iruvar,Ullam Kollai Poguthey,Ullasam,etc you will hear that YSRs music should remind you of his brothers.

[vasanth2006]

I think its a BIG INSULT to KR to say Pani Thuli reminds one of YSR music.If you go back to Naam Iruvar Namakku Iruvar,Ullam Kollai Poguthey,Ullasam,etc you will hear that YSRs music should remind you of his brothers.

Ullam Kollai Poguthey,Ullasam has pure KR style of music. i dont think yuvan has used this style of music. (in tune wise and orchastration wise).

but if u take Naam Iruvar Namakku Iruvar, definitely some of the songs has the same style of orchastration as in "unakkaga ellam unakkaga". "unakkaga ellam unakkaga" is released in 1999. but i dont know which movie came first?

then regarding the "pani vizhum kalam", the starting part only reminds yuvan style. after KR voice came in the song, the song is entirely KR style.

p.s: in puyale song, in the postlude, KR will hum as the guitar instrument. that is superb innovation.

[slperson1]

im talkin abt Aylasa from NINI and jolly jolly from ullasam

[Music4Ever]

Earlier in this thread we discussed that "KangaL thedudhE" resembled Andhi mazhai pozhigiradhu and macha machiniyE. The film director Arputhan now says that the tune of KangaL thedudhE is his! Then what did KR do? The tune is not his and the interludes are mostly his dad's. No wonder IR has assigned his son to remix his old goodies!

[vijayr]

"No wonder IR has assigned his son to remix his old goodies!"

even in that, he lags behind YSR :-)