Tamil Vs Sanskrit

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Topic started by k . Sumanth (sumanthk@mailcity.com) (@ 210-210-34-150.lan.sify.net) on Wed Sep 18 12:43:56 .


Who so ever,

I have been hearing that Tamil is older than Sanskrit. Hope you would clear with your justifications on which is teh older language.

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Old responses (http://forumhub.com/tlit/19161.23980.12.43.56.html)

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[tscii:1d42ff6cad]so does the Thamizheezha Army..it contains women batallions the only army with a strong women batallions that I know of! Thamizh is the oldest language and Sanskirit could have came from Thamizh..but not the other way around![/tscii:1d42ff6cad]

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[tscii:fe461fee2f]Vannakam nanbarkaley,
If you are tamil please list your screen name so i can see weather you are tamil or not thank u[/tscii:fe461fee2f]

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[tscii:780a17c990]Hello dear friends,
I have some questions for you to respond to:

-Are hindu gods hindi gods or common for everyone who is hindu?
-People say that thamizh people are practising shivaism not hinduism is that true or false?
-The art of bharatanatyam was writen in sanskrit was the person that wrote it tamil or hindi?

Please post your answers!

Thank you, [/tscii:780a17c990]

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[tscii:dfab17236a]yeah but why aren't you guys making any claims like SANSKRIT can?

according to the NEASDEN temple they quote that SANSKRIT has 70 words for water which then amalgamate into 280 different words when added with a pre-fix..........

these 70 words have not been derived from anyother language........

so then how can TAMIL have HAD ANY influence over SANSKRIT and the north?

you have to remember that the BRODERS of ARYA-VARTHA reached up to SIBERIA and across most of INDO-CHINA.........

the old lands not the recent ones like ANGOR WAT etc......MOHENJO DARO and the INDUS are all new sites.....

the SARASWATI site shows a continous momentum of life from 5000 bc all the way back to 2 million years ago.....

which coincides with the time KRSNA was called RAANCHOD when he left the battlefield to warn his people of the civilisation due to melting ice caps and the flooding off the rivers........

and even that site isn't part of the old land so you can imgaine how big ARYA VARTHA really was...

can TAMIL make any claims like that?

if so please enlighten the world, if not be humbled by the power of SANSKRIT and stop fighting it and go with the flow.............

i am sure TaMIL is just as beautifully refined...

SANSKRIT has 70 words for water and 65 words for Earth.

when added with a prefix these words for water then amalgamate to 280 words !!!!

no language in the world has such qualities!!!!

jai hind


om chanted through tonoscope produces Sri Yantra!!!

the seven chakras alligned together give the same pattern as the spark that ignites life into a computer......................

see articles on OM through tonoscope listed below.....

http://www.hyattcarter.com/path_of_sound.htm

http://www.isibrno.cz/~gott/mandalas.htm

http://home.mweb.co.za/sa/samten/jenny.htm

now do you guys understand why the NAZIS and the west want to keep Aryanism downtrodden and hidden away as theirs?

it is the coolest and most laid back religion, and way of life there is available amalgamating as many realms as possible as one............

green comes from blue and yellow

yellow and pink make orange......

welcome to the Geometric hallucination......

MAYA..... [/tscii:dfab17236a]

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[tscii:5ab9e3ef60]who remembers the GANESH miracle?

why hasn't it happened again if it was caused by either mass hysteria or capillary action....?

can anyone confirm what they saw? [/tscii:5ab9e3ef60]

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[tscii:fe0ee89ca5]The language of people from the rock era… consistently they have been using the same language and also in the same status. Old is gold and bold… we are the best and we fought in the recent parliament and made Tamil recognized as the ancient language… its proven… we keep fighting and will rule the world with language if not to day tomorrow…

Jai tamilnadu…

Jai Puruchhi thalivi… [/tscii:fe0ee89ca5]

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[tscii:88a7eb0a9e]The language of people from the rock era… consistently they have been using the same language and also in the same status. Old is gold and bold… we are the best and we fought in the recent parliament and made Tamil recognized as the ancient language… its proven… we keep fighting and will rule the world with language if not to day tomorrow…

Jai tamilnadu…

Jai Puruchhi thalivi… [/tscii:88a7eb0a9e]

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[tscii:e92472b27c]atleast learn to spell my Thamizh name right fool![/tscii:e92472b27c]

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[tscii:0544335fe4]Hi Kal K, well you have quoted lot of diction variety about sanskrit, well does any one say sanskrit descended from tamzih, well quite a lot of mumbo jumbos down northern part of present set of india claim so.

No proof though.

We not thamizh person has fought for the due place of sanskrit or other languages, only when tired of being forced to learn something really alien and distort natural history, they sound.

What you have written about 70 words on earth and so on does not prove a thing about the origin of the thread.[/tscii:0544335fe4]

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[tscii:e71891f3bd]SANSKRIT has 70 words for water and 65 words for Earth.
please list them no high and dry talks. [/tscii:e71891f3bd]

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[tscii:65b1e5221c]I am not a legend.But I am a great grand son,a grandson ,a son ,an younger brother(thambi),elderbrother(annan),Machchan,athth an,neiphew,uncle,(maternal,paternal),husband, father,grand father,and greatgrandfather.Iam 65 retired from a tyre company.I have sixteen names. Am I great? so is the language with 70 words for water.You may have humpteen words for MOTHER .The tamil word for that is 'amma'is unederstood by the whole mankind even those who have no language of his own.[/tscii:65b1e5221c]

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[tscii:62c227c486]Well said Mr. Thangarajan! Well said! Thank you for saying this to the fools! I salute you dear Thamizhan.[/tscii:62c227c486]

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[tscii:2b5b502385]//-Are hindu gods hindi gods or common for everyone who is hindu? //
The word Hindu came from the word 'Sindhu' which is the name of the river that run in between now day so called Pakistan and (H)India. During the British rule, the British took the censor of now day so called (H)India and they grouped everyone following the 'philosophy' or corruptly known as 'religion' which originated in now day so called (H)India and the one that came from Afghanistan (yes they followed something brahmanic before they were converted to Islam) as Hinduism. Although the Thamizhans are influenced by Aryans and Brahmins. However the Northenairs praise and pray 'Ram' and not 'Sivan.' Whereas the Thamizhans originally prayed 'Sivan' and 'Thirumaal' accordingly the Thamizhans philosophies were Sivaniyam and Maliyam (mAliyam).[/tscii:2b5b502385]

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[tscii:e3b0496627]-People say that thamizh people are practising shivaism not hinduism is that true or false?
Thamizhans follow Sivaniyam or known as Saivam and Maliyam and not Hinduism. As I said the Thamizhans philosophies main Gods are Sivan and Thirumaal (ThirumAl) and the Northenairs pray Ram.

-The art of bharatanatyam was writen in sanskrit was the person that wrote it tamil or hindi?
The stupid belief o bahratanatyam was invented by 'Bharata Munivar' some northenair is a true plejuarism. The 'Silappthikaaram' written by Ilango of Chera Nadu (nowday so called Kerala sate of so called (H)Inia) states everything about bharadhanaatiyam and how to set the ring and etc. The origin of Bharadhanaatiyam belong to Thamizhans and specifically the bharadha Thamizhars who lived along the coast of that day TN and other Thamizh Lands around it![/tscii:e3b0496627]

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[tscii:983fa792d4]Thank you Shri....

In SANSKRIT there are 70 words for water that HAVE NOT BEEN DERIVED FROM ANYOTHER Language....these 70 words then AMALGAMATE to another 280 different words when added with a prefix.......

There is no TAMIL VS SANSKRIT

this is

DIVIDE and CONQUER
BROTHER KILLS BROTHER
ONE KILLS ONE ANOTHER [/tscii:983fa792d4]

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[tscii:5bbd02a3cb]
y you guys bickering?

pass this information on INSTEAD as you have mentioned STEPHEN KNAPPS but not GENE MATLOCK who has also done his fair share to support INDIA and her TRUE history.....

Jesus and Moses Are Buried in India,
Birthplace of Abraham and the Hebrews;
Yishvara 2000 - The Hindu Ancestor of Judaism Speaks to This Millennium;
India Once Ruled the Americas;
The Last Atlantis Book Youíll Ever Have to Read; From Khyber (Kheever) Pass to Gran Quivira (Kheevira),
NM and Baboquivari,
AZ - When India Ruled the World.

He is now preparing a serialized online book for the Hindu website, www.vandemataram.com, entitled India Once Ruled the World

http://www.viewzone.com/atlantis2.html

http://www.viewzone.com/matlock.html

http://www.meadev.nic.in/photogallery/perspec/mar99/maya.htm

http://www.stephen-knapp.com]

http://www.viewzone.com/kokopeli.html

http://www.viewzone.com/kokopeli.html

http://www.stephen-knapp.com/some_of_the_archeological_finds_of_2002.htm

http://www.stephen-knapp.com

http://www.viewzone.com/ancientsanskrit.htm

the above has interesting information as well....

Did you know that the OM chanted correctly through a TONOSCOPE produces the SRI YANTRA?

Check and see for yourself....
http://www.isibrno.cz/~gott/mandalas.htm
http://www.spiritual.com.au/dictionary/dict_m.html

Did you know the seven chakras alligned together give the same fractalised diagram as the very spark that gives life to a computer....?

ESP does not mean Extra Sensory Perception....

it means

Electronically Signalled Pulsation

Blue and yellow make green...
Yellow and pink make Orange....
Welcome to the Geometric Hallucination....


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[tscii:73bf5728c4]Thank you Shri....

In SANSKRIT there are 70 words for water that HAVE NOT BEEN DERIVED FROM ANYOTHER Language....these 70 words then AMALGAMATE to another 280 different words when added with a prefix.......

There is no TAMIL VS SANSKRIT

this is

DIVIDE and CONQUER
BROTHER KILLS BROTHER
ONE KILLS ONE ANOTHER
y you guys bickering?

pass this information on INSTEAD as you have mentioned STEPHEN KNAPPS but not GENE MATLOCK who has also done his fair share to support INDIA and her TRUE history.....

Jesus and Moses Are Buried in India,
Birthplace of Abraham and the Hebrews;
Yishvara 2000 - The Hindu Ancestor of Judaism Speaks to This Millennium;
India Once Ruled the Americas;
The Last Atlantis Book Youíll Ever Have to Read; From Khyber (Kheever) Pass to Gran Quivira (Kheevira),
NM and Baboquivari,
AZ - When India Ruled the World.

He is now preparing a serialized online book for the Hindu website, www.vandemataram.com, entitled India Once Ruled the World

http://www.viewzone.com/atlantis2.html

http://www.viewzone.com/matlock.html

http://www.meadev.nic.in/photogallery/perspec/mar99/maya.htm

http://www.stephen-knapp.com]

http://www.viewzone.com/kokopeli.html

http://www.viewzone.com/kokopeli.html

http://www.stephen-knapp.com/some_of_the_archeological_finds_of_2002.htm

http://www.stephen-knapp.com

http://www.viewzone.com/ancientsanskrit.htm

the above has interesting information as well....

Did you know that the OM chanted correctly through a TONOSCOPE produces the SRI YANTRA?

Check and see for yourself....
http://www.isibrno.cz/~gott/mandalas.htm
http://www.spiritual.com.au/dictionary/dict_m.html

Did you know the seven chakras alligned together give the same fractalised diagram as the very spark that gives life to a computer....?

ESP does not mean Extra Sensory Perception....

it means

Electronically Signalled Pulsation

Blue and yellow make green...
Yellow and pink make Orange....
Welcome to the Geometric Hallucination....

Jai Hind

Dharma Karma
Hare KRSNA Hare RAMA
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Hai,
You are only thinking one side. Sanskrit is way back older than Tamil.

If you speak a different language like Latin or Greek, you will understand that.

Everyone is thinking about only the Sanskrit influence on Tamil.

Sanskrit was actually started using from 4000 BC
Before that people spoke prakrit.

Beginning of Tamil was in 300 BC. when a lot of Brahmins came to Tamil Nadu and Kerala in 350 AD,they merged their language with Tamil forming Malayalam in 500 AD.

Check the old writings of Roman Historian Pliny why a lot of people came to South around 400 AD.
Pliny's writing "Muziris primun emporium Indiae".

Which means "Muziris the major trade center of India". Muziris is considered to be near to a place named Kodungallor in Kerala.

Believe or not, Sanskrit is the mother language of all languages that spoken after 3000 BC including Tamil.

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[tscii:c0bcdcfac5]Dear Indian brothers. I have only recently found this site and I find it enchanting that there is ittellectual debate/discussion/communication that is partaked of on this site.

I however should also state that after reading quiet a few history reviews I have one great, perhaps not so intelligent question to ask. We ask questions about our pride of language but we don't publish books that we can send to international borders to emancipate (culturally) our displaced brothers (exported labour/business people) whome roam the corners of the earth without the light of heritage to show them the way.


I press forward in my investigation as to: "who am I"; "what am I"; and "what can I be". I am South African "INDIAN" who forges forward trying to find inner peace with the fact that my grandfather is supposedly the beginning of my family tree?

I come from a family of four + two Gods: my mother and father. They have tried to educate us in the ways of religion (tamil)however in South Africa we did not/could not have the pleasure of having classes for tamil in our schools. Respect to our religious scolars that tried to give classes in temples and the alike but, with the real life issues like cleaning/ and the house chores, home work and studies (my father, like his father was adamant that education is ultimately freedom finanacial/intellectual/or otherwise)our indian heritage had to, like so many other indian aspects, take the back seat.

I think my Appa in his wisdom felt that when we had this freedom (of which he had non) we could/perhaps with Gods blessing persue our heritage. In my emmediate family we all have atleats two degrees each to our names (honours and masters as well). So my Appa's gamble paid off. All members of our emediate family are in their own way persueing heritage/spirituality in their own way. I suppose I rather go head on as I am the youngest of them all and admitedly have been shelterred by them.

But just to end my initial statement, I embreace all that open the channels for a international unity of Indians.

D K Chetty [/tscii:c0bcdcfac5]

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[tscii:46f119dd28]//But just to end my initial statement, I embreace all that open the channels for a international unity of Indians.//

D K Chetty I do not wish to confuse you or shatter your view. India is not like what you may think or know as. Thamizhans form 6% or so of the total Indian Population and if you should know 40% of the Members of the Parliments of India are hindis. The Hindi language have an 'official' status that put it in front of many other languages. Thamizhars who inhabit the state of Thamizh Nadu under the so called Indian Union as of now lack the power to educate their roots in foreign nations. [/tscii:46f119dd28]

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[tscii:019509e346]Although recently India has announced Thamizh to be a classical langauge...a long time after the World has made that announcement! The Government of India will not spend the same amount of money that it spend on promoting Sanskirit inside and outside on Thamizh language! Why? Because Thamizhans lack the power. You may have been taught to be an Indian. Of course considering the fact that the British had coined all nations under one union and named it as Indian Union and gave the power to the hindis when they left. Try to seek the truth. Go to Thamizh Nadu and read Thamizh books or try reading English books regarding Thamizhars and Thamizh.

Do not trust what they tell you in Thamizh Temples...not all true considering the fact that the 'brahmins' control the Temples, lot of things are in a confused state for many ppl because Thamizhars can't seem to make things clear being under foreigners influence....and enslaved to 'unions' which dissapoint them.[/tscii:019509e346]

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[tscii:4a4d994537]Nedunchezhiyan - MotherFuuucker Do u know the literacy rate of Tamil Nadu and the Hindi people ... Do u know how many visit overseas for studies and working abroad ...

MotherFuuucker think before u speak ... U r speaking as if u have taken a survey ... All were slaves man under the British ? and Majoriy of Hindi guys don't know speaking proper English come here and see U bastaaarddd how Hindi guys speak English !!! [/tscii:4a4d994537]

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[tscii:a5b302b146]//Do u know the literacy rate of Tamil Nadu//
Literacy rate? Do you know the quality of life Thamizhans have in Thamizh Nadu? Do you know what the heck Thamizhans call themselves as '(H)Indians?' Do you know how much money is being looted and ripped off of Thamizh Nadu to Hindi lands?

//All were slaves man under the British ? and Majoriy of Hindi guys don't know speaking proper English come here and see U bastaaarddd how Hindi guys speak English !!! //
Really? The majority of Thamizhans can't speak proper Thamizh. Go learn Thamizh first. People like you are the fools who keep praising English and being enslaved in Thamizh soil even after British left. Learn to respect your mother tonghue before you speak another word. Thamizh language lack the respect even in Thamizh Nadu, don't talk as if Thamizh Nadu is better than Hindi states or something. A Thamizhan wouldn't want Thamizh Nadu to be a state of so called (H)Indian Union.[/tscii:a5b302b146]

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[tscii:45e634c12f]//Do u know the literacy rate of Tamil Nadu//
Literacy rate? Do you know the quality of life Thamizhans have in Thamizh Nadu? Do you know what the heck Thamizhans call themselves as '(H)Indians?' Do you know how much money is being looted and ripped off of Thamizh Nadu to Hindi lands?

//All were slaves man under the British ? and Majoriy of Hindi guys don't know speaking proper English come here and see U bastaaarddd how Hindi guys speak English !!! //
Really? The majority of Thamizhans can't speak proper Thamizh. Go learn Thamizh first. People like you are the fools who keep praising English and being enslaved in Thamizh soil even after British left. Learn to respect your mother tonghue before you speak another word. Thamizh language lack the respect even in Thamizh Nadu, don't talk as if Thamizh Nadu is better than Hindi states or something. A Thamizhan wouldn't want Thamizh Nadu to be a state of so called (H)Indian Union.[/tscii:45e634c12f]

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