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tvsankar
16th August 2008, 04:52 PM
Today pick


Un manasulae - by Chithra - Pandi naatu thangam

http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00458.html

Chitravin rendition - veryyyyyyyyyyyyy nice..

Plum
17th August 2008, 06:24 AM
but mano = drishti pottu for the same song

krish244
17th August 2008, 12:24 PM
No problem Usha. I don't know carnatic music, but very much interested in it, so was delighted to see a link in thiraipaadal site. I was checking in what raagams, he has less number of songs.

Thanks for the link to song "rettai kiligal". I remember listening to it long back , but glad to be listening it now (with much more music sense and passion for details). Need to add it to my IR database.

thanks,

Krishnan

tvsankar
17th August 2008, 12:29 PM
Dear Plum,
Yen mano melae avvalavu kobam???

Unmaiyil, Mano ku IR al koduka patta padal
ellam migavum kashtamana padalgal.

gavanichu kelunga plum...

tvsankar
17th August 2008, 12:32 PM
Dear krish,
Thanks for the response.

Enakukm ragam onrum theiryadhu..
just sila ragam theriyum. avvalavu dhan.

IR in padalgal - yezhu jenmathuku kathukalam.
avvalavu vishayam iruku.. hmmmmmm..

Rettai kiligal - Neenda naatkalga thedi kondu
irudnhen.... Kidaitha sandhosham. avvalavu dhan....

tvsankar
17th August 2008, 12:36 PM
Today pick...

"Thendral varum" from Dharma seelan.

Indha padalai ipodhu dhan mudhal muraiyaga
ketkiren.........

sokki poi vitten............

IR in harikambhoji yum bhagaswarikum
naan adimai..........

http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00116.html



Very nice rendition by Arnumozhi and minmini...

Beautiful guitar...........

Same guitar um flute um - IR in harikambhohi lum bhagaswari yilum

Miga vidhayasamaga olikkum..............

Plum
17th August 2008, 02:24 PM
usha, appadi illai. Mano killed a few songs effectively - most prominently, Nee oru kaadhal sangeetham (Vaanam..B(a big spurt of a B)Body ParavaigaLLL RenDDu) and the Geethanjali remake. It is IR's mistake to give him those panangais. But Mano rendered it and has to face the brickbats. Naan apdi thaan. I dont know diplomacy. I say it as I see it. If it offends you, sorry.

tvsankar
18th August 2008, 06:55 PM
Dear plum,
ok.Its your view.
Thread ku disturb illadha vagaiyil karuthugal
sonal No prob Plum.....

Today Pick.

Film : Nalla Nall

song : podu thandha tham

singers : SPB and SJ.

Cinemavil ketta piragu, ippodhu dhan
ketkiren....

Beautiful tune from IR.

http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00403.html

tvsankar
20th August 2008, 12:31 PM
Today pick

Yaar yaro enaku potti.

rendered by MVD and SJ.

80s Raaja.........

Guitar Raja.....

http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00587.html

thumburu
20th August 2008, 05:26 PM
HI uSHA, WHICH MOVIE IS THIS ONE FROM? iAM HEARING IT AFTER DECADES.Thanks for unearthing such rarest of rare gems

thumburu
20th August 2008, 05:28 PM
oops, sorry now I know its from "Selvi"

thumburu
20th August 2008, 05:53 PM
Amazing bass lines, guitar and brass interludes with a foot tapping tune like "oru nayagan udhamagiraan" .
I miss this quality in IR of today

MrJudge
20th August 2008, 05:59 PM
oops, sorry now I know its from "Selvi"

In Selvi, the best song is iLamanathu. There is this sound 'screeech screech' used in the pallai of that song, anyone knows what instrument it is?

ananth222
20th August 2008, 07:11 PM
In Selvi, the best song is iLamanathu. There is this sound 'screeech screech' used in the pallai of that song, anyone knows what instrument it is?
I think its a "Guiro", a kind of percussion instrument:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCiro

tvsankar
21st August 2008, 10:34 AM
Dear thumburu, Mr.judge and ananth,

Thank u all for the responses.

Hit songs - ellorukum theiryum...

HIt agadha nalla padalgal - Niriaya irukiradhu...

IR music il......

ADhai thedi, ketpadhae en velai....

tvsankar
21st August 2008, 10:44 AM
College galata song enru ninaikiren...
dont know the details..

IR in vidhyasamana composition ai ketka
arambitha kalam............

Varuvai kanna neerada - idhu Meh booba vaga
marum azhagu...

Experimental song - carnatic and western aium kalaka............

Varuvai kanna Neerada from Pattakathi Bhairavan.

http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00482.html

Shakthiprabha.
21st August 2008, 11:13 AM
You are doing a great job usha! :clap:
Most songs are unknown to us, some do not impress me (selvi song!)

Yet some other songs, touch a sensitive memory string of my childhood.

pattakathi bhairavan album is one such!

Your today's pick is INTERESTING! :thumbsup:
Mehbooba tune, I supp it must have been a craze then :)

"Devathai oru devathai" :thumbsup:
"yaaro neeyum naanum" is again worth listening!

but the song which steals no.1 position is "engengo sellum" :clap:
I suppose I CAN NEVER GET OVER the fever of "engengo sellum"

Who casted along with shivaji in this movie :?

krish244
22nd August 2008, 02:41 PM
Listened to the below song (Kadhambini (??) raagam). Is this raagam close to some other raagam? Asking because the tune/music gives a feel that is very close some other IR's sad song. Could not recollect it now. Charanam tune seems to shift (tabla sound also changes a little) and come back to track.

http://www.thiraipaadal.com/IrRagamSongs.asp?art=&schCategory=Kadhambini

thanks,

Krishnan

tvsankar
22nd August 2008, 08:07 PM
Dear shakthi,
Welcome to this thread....
Thanks for the response.

Indha padathin heroine - Enakum theriyalai
Shakthi.

Details therinjavanga solrangala nu parkalam.

tvsankar
22nd August 2008, 08:09 PM
krish,
unga alavuku enaku ragam pathi theriyadhu.
Unglalai ninaivu paduthum matroru padal
enna? yosichu sollunga...

tvsankar
22nd August 2008, 08:41 PM
Today Pick

Poovendrum ponnae endrum by SPB and Chithra.

Beat - Discuss panna kudiya nadai.


Flute = Padiyarvargalai support pannum azhagu... cute.


violin - Pattuku booster.

Guitar - Too much friendly - irukum idam theriyamal..


http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00123.html

MrJudge
22nd August 2008, 11:52 PM
In Selvi, the best song is iLamanathu. There is this sound 'screeech screech' used in the pallai of that song, anyone knows what instrument it is?
I think its a "Guiro", a kind of percussion instrument:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCiro

Thanks for the info.

krish244
23rd August 2008, 04:54 PM
krish,
unga alavuku enaku ragam pathi theriyadhu.
Unglalai ninaivu paduthum matroru padal
enna? yosichu sollunga...

Achacho! Neenga onnu. Enakkum raagam ellam theriyaadhu. Zero knowledge. Andha site'la pottu irundha raagathai appadiye inga ezhudhinen ...avvalavudhan :). I am trying to recollect, but no luck so far. Kandippa oru naal gnabagam vandhidum, but meanwhile I thought I will post it here and check if anyone else can get it.

I really liked the charanam tune. The tonal shift (??) while repeating "Ullathil aazhathil" (1st charanam) and "Koothu kulungidum" (2nd charanam) and tabla sound change sort of surprised me.

thanks,

Krishnan

krish244
23rd August 2008, 05:13 PM
I can somewhat recognize Chakravagam/Ahir Bhairav, hamsanandhi, etc. Avvalavudhan. But I am really interested to learn Carnatic music. Are there any good online resource (with audio samples.etc) to learn?

thanks,

Krishnan

ananth222
23rd August 2008, 06:19 PM
I can somewhat recognize Chakravagam/Ahir Bhairav, hamsanandhi, etc. Avvalavudhan. But I am really interested to learn Carnatic music. Are there any good online resource (with audio samples.etc) to learn?

thanks,

Krishnan
Online is not the best way for learning carnatic, but its the only way available to some of us. Its ok if you are not too serious about it, otherwise you should get a teacher.
Useful links:
http://www.karnatik.com/
http://www.ecse.rpi.edu/Homepages/shivkuma/personal/music/index.html
Also try some hindustani:
http://www.itcsra.org/sra_raga/sra_raga_index.asp
http://www.wyastone.co.uk/nrl/world/raga/

tvsankar
25th August 2008, 08:33 PM
Dear krish,
Okey.Ipadi than raagam kathuakanam.

Dear ananth,
Thanks for the links......

Teacher appadi ippadi nu solli bayam
katatheengo.

tvsankar
25th August 2008, 08:47 PM
Today pick is
my long time searching one....
Indha padal radio vil thadai seiya patta
padal.

Singer : VJ
Film :Kannan oru kai kuzhandhai

Song : Kannan arugae pada vendum


http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00266.html

Indha paatai ketka thavam irundha
naatkal dhan ninaivil varugiradhu.

Aridhaga ketta indha paatin guitar, beat
enru indha sound ai ellam memorise panni
matravargalidam pesum podhu
kidaitha sandhosham Ninaivil varugiaradhu...

Analum inru ketta indha High quality
Sound il anru radio vil keta mudiyavllai....

Thanks to God......

swathy
27th August 2008, 10:43 PM
nice song ushakka :-)

thks for introducing it.

tvsankar
28th August 2008, 12:10 PM
Thank u swathy
Welcome.....


Today pick

En neenda naal thediya padal.

Singer :SJ

Film : Neram nalla neram

song ; En anbae yengadhae

Beautiful madhyamavadhi or Brindhavana saranga???
Raajas touch.............
Thats all


http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00423.html

nanchil_guy
28th August 2008, 06:33 PM
Analum inru ketta indha High quality
Sound il anru radio vil keta mudiyavllai....

Even though the songs aired on radio were in poor quality but we enjoyed it more. In those good old days, sitting in front of radio to listen vivdhbharathi or srilankan stations comes into mind. Most of the time they used astonish us by airing wonderful IR songs one after another.

As we were kids/teens , we enjoyed the songs much more than today.More over having those friends arround to discuss about IR and his songs added muche required flavour to it.

Now, even though i have almost all of IR songs in good quality in my ipod/hard disk , i am not able to reach that level of enjoyment. I still remember the day, when i was walking along the road, i heard Agninatchthram songs had been played in one of those house along that road , i just stopped and stood there to listen all of those songs for the next 20 or 30 mins. i was only 10 or 12 yrs old then.

Hmm ......... Good old Days!!!

Sureshs65
28th August 2008, 07:25 PM
Lovely song, 'En Anbe'. It is difficult to guess between Madhyamavathi and Brindavana Saranga. I will probably go with Brindavana Saranga. Not that it matters !! What matters is that it is a lovely song.

S.Suresh

tvsankar
2nd September 2008, 06:46 PM
Dear nanchil guy,
Thanks for the response.
Radio vil ketta sandhosham ippodhu ilai dhan.
Anal, andru radio vil guitar sound ai
ketka kashta patta naal ninaivil vandhadhu nanchil.

Innum 20 years ku piragu, indha pc yil
ketta sandhosham pola idhu ilai enru sollum padi
edavadhu technology varalam nanchil.

IR in padalai patri Iniya ninaivugalae manadhil
nirkiradhu............

tvsankar
2nd September 2008, 06:55 PM
Dear suresh,

Enakum Brindhavana saranga vai than
ninaika vaikiradhu.Andha alvuku than
ragam knowledge enaku........

tvsankar
2nd September 2008, 06:57 PM
Today pick : Yaar mamano

singer : SJ

Film : Vetriku oruvan


Haunting tune. Hindustani style.Padathil ketta piragu
ippodhu dhan ketkiren......


SJ in single style kagavae kettu kondae irukalam.

Yaar Maakno vai sollum vidham - Very Niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Gowri Manohari?????????

Shakthiprabha.
2nd September 2008, 07:09 PM
link usha?

tvsankar
2nd September 2008, 10:54 PM
oh sorry sp
here is the link

http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00728.html

tvsankar
5th September 2008, 11:52 AM
Today pick : Velayi veerayi

singer : SJ and chorus

Film : Lakshmi


Special of the song " Radio vil Madras Vividh Bharath - enga
oorla varadhu periya vishayam. Mazhai vandha varadhu.

Niraiya Disturbance udan indha padathin add ai
ketta naal niniavil vandhadhu.

Padathirkana padal matuame add.

first 2 lines kettuvittu indha padalin stanza eppadi
irukum enru karpanai seidhu partha naatkal..............
nice to think.......

link to hear the song
http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00320.html

Sureshs65
5th September 2008, 03:22 PM
Nice songs. The SJ song from 'Vetriku Oruvan' does sound like Gowrimanohari.

S.Suresh

irir123
5th September 2008, 06:05 PM
"En anbey" has shades of "thaazhampoovey vaasam veesu" from "Kai kodukkum kai" - same Raaga ?

tvsankar
6th September 2008, 04:58 PM
Dear suresh,
Yar maamano sets in Gowri manohari.

Dear irir123,
Thazhambppoovae and en anbae - same??

parthu solren....

With Love,
Usha Sankar.

tvsankar
6th September 2008, 05:11 PM
Today pick : Unnai kaana thudithen

singers : PJ and PS

Film : Natpu


Beautiful soft song.Nice redition by PJ and Ps.

unakenathanae innerama padalai engayo ninaivu padithuayadhu.

Rare GEM.

Indha paatin ragam solla mudiyuma???

link to hear the song

http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00414.html

tvsankar
8th September 2008, 10:14 PM
Today Pick : Kettukamma

Film : Ponnuveetukaran


Singer : mano


Reethi Gowlaiyai Nyagabaga paduthugiradhu.

Western orchestration

Carnatic Raaga flavour

Folk Lyrics

Moondrum Moondru thisaigal..........
Ivatrai Blend panniya IR - tats all.....

Kettu mudithum manadhil Nirkkum Flute.....

Wat a speedy presentation.....
Mano vin voice - I always love his voice.

Link to hear the song

http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00501.html

irir123
9th September 2008, 02:34 AM
the first interlude of 'Kathunguyile' from Kizhakkum Merkum is probably one of the most innovative interludes IR has given - can anyone describe the same technically ? thx

crvenky
9th September 2008, 10:09 AM
irir, I remember reading in the same Forum years back from a hubber about Guitar Prasanna being given a space to improvise a little in this song, while recording. I dont know how far its true, but that could be a reason. Nevertheless, the guitar pieces are amazing.

thumburu
9th September 2008, 03:31 PM
"poovendrum" from "Dhruva nakshathram" [ippidiyellam oru padam vandhudha?] is a classic instance to show how a great singer like SPB can elevate a song. This is set to Abheri/ Bhimplaas scale and resembles songs like "aaraaro paattu paada" ,"poove poochooda vaa" . Nevertheless, this song comforts me like a "thaalaattu"

tvsankar
12th September 2008, 11:53 AM
Dear irir123 and venky,
Thanks for the response.
"kathunguyilae" - my favourite one.

tvsankar
12th September 2008, 11:54 AM
Dear thumburu,
Thanks for the raaga info.
Yes. Poovendrum paatu thaalatu pattu
madhiri dhan iruku.

tvsankar
12th September 2008, 11:59 AM
Today pick : Eerettu padhinaaru

Film : Raja rajathan

singers : Mano and SJ


Rare Gem.

Reethi Gowlaiyil arambithu. Abhogi yil pogiradhu...

thumburu - clarify me.

http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00551.html

With Love,
Usha Sankar.

tvsankar
12th September 2008, 12:10 PM
Nalla guitarudan arambikum
padal carnatic aga eppo mariyadhu
enru achariya padugiren.

Reethi Gowlai - siridhum jerk illamal
Abhogi yaga maariya azhagil sokki ponen

Abohi marubaidyum Reedhi Gowlai ku
varum azhagu - very Special to me.

Sureshs65
12th September 2008, 05:51 PM
Hi Usha,

Thanks for this lovely song. I am discovering lot of good songs due to your postings. My sincere thanks.

Yes. As you say, you don't know how the song got converted into a classical number given the way it starts.

I may be wrong but I feel the song is based on Sriranjani. Depending on how Sriranjani is used, it can sometimes sound like Reethigowla and sometimes like Aboghi. I think the Sriranjani in this song is so used that it gives shades of both these ragas. My 'swaragnanam' is zero and so I can be mistaken !! (The 'silu silu' part does suggest Reethigowla)

S.Suresh

Shakthiprabha.
12th September 2008, 06:30 PM
link to hear the song

http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00414.html

nice pick, I still however prefer "adhikaalai shubhavelai"

tvsankar
14th September 2008, 11:05 AM
suresh,
Welcome.
Sriranjani nu solraiya?? seri.

Raaga experts help pannina,

IR songs correct ana raagam details oda
kaapatrapadum....

Vera enna solradhu??

tvsankar
14th September 2008, 11:06 AM
sp,
Welcome.
thanks for the response.
"Adhikalai" song is too nice.
BUt theiryadha padalai sollanam nu nenachen.
ADhan indha padalai sonnen.

tvsankar
14th September 2008, 11:15 AM
Today Pick : Madhu malargalae

Film : Maganae maganae

Singers : MVD and SJ


SJ padum podhu, Avanga padara style dhan
manasil ninru vidugiradhu.....

As usual, IR in Guitar . Flute...., Violinnnn

MVD - IR in Rare GEM ku sondhakarar. Nice rendition.

padalai ketal -" Thene senthene" padalai ninaivu paduthugiradhu.

Kadhal ennum theevil
thaniyae ninral - Beauatiful violin supprt for the mood.

Beautiful ludes.

link for the song

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00328.html

Sureshs65
14th September 2008, 09:42 PM
Lovely song selection Usha. I have not heard this before. Lovely bass guitar and interludes. Vintage Raja

S.Suresh

tvsankar
15th September 2008, 06:42 PM
suresh,
Yes. Beautiful interludes.
amaidhiyana love song - IR spl achae...

tvsankar
15th September 2008, 07:07 PM
Today Pick : Kaveri Gangaiku melae
singer : PJ

Film : Idhayathil Or Idam

Padam peyar parthen. Marnadhu vitten. hmmm

Ithanai varudangalaga pesa padadha oru padam.

Really rare GEM...

All the songs are simply super.

One more Beautiful Bass guitar.
Indha guitarai ippodhu dhan ketkiren.......

Thanks a lot for the computer technology...

Radio vil adikadi ketta padal

Manikam vairangal


Kaveri gangani ku melae - link for the song

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00213.html

tvsankar
16th September 2008, 06:35 PM
Today pick : Yey thanni

Singers : IR and SJ

Film : Kadavul amaitha Medai


Beautiful Rare Gem.... :oops: :oops: :oops:


Link for the song


http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00245.html

tvsankar
20th September 2008, 04:14 PM
Today pick : Etri vechu nerupinilae

Film : Alapiandhavan

Singers : SPB and Chithra.


80s Raaja's Guitar , Flute. Violin. keyboard....

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00005.html

thumburu
23rd September 2008, 05:02 PM
[tscii:6dcaa1b3f0]“Yaar maamano” from “Vetrikku oruvan “ is such a sensational discovery and my immense thanks to Usha .How did I miss this RDX bombshell of a song? I used love “thoranam aadidum” from the same movie , except for aged TMS ‘s “dhristi parikaaram” . SJ proudly and aptly dons the crown of queen of sensuality. Her yodelling , improvisation in the line “sughame ... yaar maamano ” can put even SPB to shame. Raja’s tabla usage with his vintage guitar punches make such a heady concoction that Iam unable to come out of its intoxication . Gowrimanohari scale ofcourse[/tscii:6dcaa1b3f0]

Shakthiprabha.
23rd September 2008, 05:24 PM
Kaveri gangani ku melae - link for the song

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00213.html

Too much influenced by hindi songs of 70z :?
Ive never listened to this song ever in radio, or may be I dont remember :?

Lemme listen to other songs too :) thanks usha for the link.

tvsankar
28th September 2008, 09:41 PM
Dear thumburu and Shakthi,
Thanks for the responses.

thumburu,
Yes. Rare IR songs thedi kekka mudivu
seidhu iruken.

SP,
Nee appo chinna ponna irundhu irupae.
So kekka chance ilai.
So what,
Ippo kettutu....hahhaha

apo dhan inum age ana pinadi sollikalam, ennoda
------- indha age la dhan , indha paatai
first first keten nu... hhehehehe.

tvsankar
28th September 2008, 09:49 PM
Today pick : Unnai than azhaikiren

Singer : Vera yaru.. Great SJ.

Film : Gayathri


Enna solla. IR and SJ. Thats all.

Grand wind instruments....

as usual beautiful boss guitar.... Lead Guitar....

simple but nice modulation....

Indha paatai indha alavu sound quality il
radio vil kettadhu ilali....

Indru keten. Sandhoshathil kannir.... ipadi ketka
kadavul vaithare enru...

kadhal konden I love you .

ok enral you love me - indha idathil SJ in
voice ku naan mad....


http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00166.html

Shakthiprabha.
28th September 2008, 11:05 PM
http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00166.html

Nice song usha :D Nice album infact.

Vaguely remmeber listening in vividh bharathi long long ago!

I love

kadhal ennum kaviyam (simply LOVE this song :sigh2: )
kalai paniyil
vaazhve maayama
unnaithanE azhaikkiren

in that order.

I aint too fond of aattam pattama.

btw, I thought 'kaadhal ennum kaviyam' was from "vattathukkuL sadhuram". Infact I remember latha's yearning dance for this song.

Is it sung by t.k.kala :?
:?

tvsankar
28th September 2008, 11:41 PM
kadhal ennum kaaviyam by Jikki.
She is IR's favourite singer.

This is the first song of Jikki for IR. i think.

Latha's dancing song idhu ilai SP.

adhu - aada sonnarare ellarum onraga
by Great Jency...

Unnai than azhaikiren - I had heard only
in radio cylone.

In Tamil Nadu Radio station blocked this song.
So few times only heard....

Shakthiprabha.
28th September 2008, 11:45 PM
Latha's dancing song idhu ilai SP.

adhu - aada sonnarare ellarum onraga
by Great Jency...



VattathukkuL sadhuram has also listed "kathal ennum kaviyam" song! No sound track though.

I am quite confident, Ive seen latha's dance for "kathal ennum kaviyam" from "vattathukkul sadhuram" :?

tvsankar
30th September 2008, 10:41 AM
SP,
Nee sonna seri.
Un alavuku enaku nyabagam ilai. :D

tvsankar
30th September 2008, 11:01 AM
Today pick : Mayakama solla thayakama

singer : VJ

Film : Naan Potta Saval


VJ and IR combo has little bit nos only.
But all are so sweet.

INdha paatu enga teen age la (during my 9th) romba sathamana paatu.

En thatha thittiyadhu nyabagam varudhu.

"yar andha Yelaiya Raja" orae satham . Thanga mudiyalai.

( radio vil enna sathathil kettu irupom.Adhuvm appo ellam
periyavangaluku bayandhukanam.

Thaatha ku Ear romba sharp.... :D :P )

Different composistion from IR at the period...

Beautiful prelude.. Beat....


http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00394.html

rangan_08
21st October 2008, 02:55 PM
can anyone pls tell me where can i download " Vaa pon mayile.." from Poondhalir ??

tvsankar
21st October 2008, 07:56 PM
Dear rangan,
here is the link for ur song...


http://music.cooltoad.com/music/song.php?id=201431

tvsankar
21st October 2008, 08:03 PM
today pick...

Unai thedum ragam idhu....

singer : Bombay Jayashree

film : Pon megalai

Neenda natkalaga en nanbar solli kondae
irukum Gems indha padathu padal ellam...

Ragam Naatai nu nenaikiren.....

Carnatic song from IR. idhai vida
veru enna vendum???

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00495.html

rangan_08
22nd October 2008, 01:04 PM
thank u Usha :)

Shakthiprabha.
22nd October 2008, 01:29 PM
SP,
Nee sonna seri.
Un alavuku enaku nyabagam ilai. :D

recent aa (one year kku m unnadi) tv-la padam parthen, athaan :)

Shakthiprabha.
22nd October 2008, 01:32 PM
Today pick : Mayakama solla thayakama

singer : VJ

Film : Naan Potta Saval


Beautiful prelude.. Beat....


http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00394.html

Loved the bg :bow:

VJ :D

tvsankar
24th October 2008, 11:53 AM
Dear SP and rangan,
Thanks for the responses.
VJ voda indha song enaku romba pidikum sp...

Shakthiprabha.
24th October 2008, 11:57 AM
Usha,

She sounds so husky in this song.
As ever I love husky voices.
Since its also VJ, its double bonus! :)

tvsankar
24th October 2008, 12:04 PM
Today Pick : Naan thirumba thirumba

Singer Great Jensy

Film : Ellam un kairasi.

Beautiful song of 80s IR... vera enna solla,

Jensy in voice - very cute..


http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00130.html

Shakthiprabha.
24th October 2008, 12:08 PM
Usha,

Mayakkama oru kalakkama has got me in TOTALLY. (count is 3 now)

and now

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00130.html

Jency is konjing konjing in this song :D
cute! :D

tvsankar
24th October 2008, 06:27 PM
amam SP...

jensy is konjifying konjifying............
rare gem....

tvsankar
25th October 2008, 06:58 PM
Song : Naalthorum Endhan kannil

singers : IR and Kavitha krishamoorthy

Film : Devathai


Kavitha Krishamoorthy voice romba pidikum.
mazhalai yana pronounciation madhiri oru feelings.....

IR music
and IR singer.......... Nice to hear......


http://thiraipaadal.com/singers/SONGS_Kavitha%20Krishnamurthy_1.html

crazy
25th October 2008, 09:50 PM
Super song , usha akka :thumbsup:

nirayavaatti kettu irukken, aana paatta paartha ngaabagam illai


nenjil niranchani
konjam irangi nee
thaalattu raathiri
neeye neelambari .....
pagalum iravum thazhuvum
konji pesum kulavum kulavum ...
pon maalai
pon maalai ho
ivvelai :musicsmile:

krish244
29th October 2008, 01:33 PM
Listening to "ennenna paada padutharan" from aandaan adimai. Nice prelude and no words to describe that 1st interlude. Harini is pretty good in this song. It clearly shows what Bhava is lacking.

Tune at "thookkam kettu pochu" reminded me of "vetti varinju kattu" line of a song from japanil kalyanaraman movie.

An overall good song, especially for nice music and charanam tune.

thanks,

Krishnan

tvsankar
30th October 2008, 11:53 AM
crazy,
Thanks for the response.

krish,
sss - thookam kettu pochu reminds me
vetti varinju kattu from vaaya vaaya poyaa poyaa.

Sivaranjani ya??

http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00011.html

thumburu
30th October 2008, 03:40 PM
aamaam Shivaranjini thaan. Thanks for "mayakkamaa oru thayakkamaa", a song which we sisters used to wait desperately for . Just heard a couple of times in Ilangai Vaanoli. The prelude itself is so exciting and VJ's voice has that teasing quality which is so alluring. Vintage Raja's pounding guitar, drums and majestic trumphets are simply unmatchable

Shakthiprabha.
30th October 2008, 03:56 PM
aamaam Shivaranjini thaan. Thanks for "mayakkamaa oru thayakkamaa", a song which we sisters used to wait desperately for . Just heard a couple of times in Ilangai Vaanoli. The prelude itself is so exciting and VJ's voice has that teasing quality which is so alluring. Vintage Raja's pounding guitar, drums and majestic trumphets are simply unmatchable

so true.

lol I am listening again :bow:

Shakthiprabha.
30th October 2008, 05:05 PM
Sivaranjani ya??

http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00011.html

:bow: :bow: :bow:

bg oooooooozing shivaranjani :bow:

krish244
31st October 2008, 01:28 PM
crazy,
Thanks for the response.

krish,
sss - thookam kettu pochu reminds me
vetti varinju kattu from vaaya vaaya poyaa poyaa.

Sivaranjani ya??

http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00011.html

Don't know what raagam it is. Now that others confirmed it to be sivaranjani, the unforgettable music (read flute) that comes to my mind is "kuyil paatu" (swarnalatha version) song from "en raasavin manasila". The 2nd interlude especially is heavenly, the way it starts with single violin, continues with amazing flute piece and that (tone) shift and finally ends again with single violin. Speechless.

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00139.html

thanks,

Krishnan

tvsankar
31st October 2008, 04:38 PM
thumburu,
Neenga sonna sari dhan. Idhu namba rajyam.
Yarum solrvangalum illai. Correct panravangalum
ilai. So No prob...

Sivaranjani - Krishanan solra "Kuyil paatu"
paatai ketta - pure Sivaranjani ya iruku.

Ennennena paada padutharan - pure Sivaranjani
madhiri ilaliyo nu thonudhu.......

SP,
Raagam pathi solli kalakarae...
ADikadi surprise pannu SP...

tvsankar
31st October 2008, 04:41 PM
krishnan,
Thanks for one more Sivaranjani...

Pure Sivaranjani from IR.....

Shakthiprabha.
31st October 2008, 04:53 PM
usha,

enakku raagam elaam romba kandupudikka theriyathu :oops:
esp if its janaranjaga form its even more tough.

Shivarajani alone I manage cause its my MOST FAV RAAGA. After thumburu said it, I could recongise shivaranjani :)

tvsankar
31st October 2008, 05:01 PM
SP,
Raagam kandu pidika ipadi than start pannanam.
appram konjam ularanam.
appram form ku varuvom. :D Pl continue ur thoughts.....

Shakthiprabha.
31st October 2008, 05:01 PM
:D

dign

usha check lounge section bangalore meet thread

/dign

Shakthiprabha.
31st October 2008, 05:06 PM
Sivaranjani - Krishanan solra "Kuyil paatu"
paatai ketta - pure Sivaranjani ya iruku.


krishnan,
Thanks for one more Sivaranjani...

Pure Sivaranjani from IR.....

:bow: :bow:

mounam ponathendru puthu vetham paaduthe
vaazhum .... athu vaasal theduthe
...
kuyile po po ini naan thane....shivaranjani.... nnu izhukkalaam :bow: :bow: :musicsmile: :swinghead:

tvsankar
31st October 2008, 05:06 PM
Today pick : Mayiladum thopil

Singers : Our SPB and SJ

Film : Chinna pasanga nanga

Ragam solla than irukkengalae nanbargalae...

indha paatu enna ragam nu solla mudiyuma???

Naan ularadhaga ilai indha paatuku..... :lol:


As usual Great Violin Flute Gutar Lyric ...........

Ver enna solla...

Rendition of SPB - Love ai munnadhaga express pannum
azhagu... Enjoy it....

SJ - Bhadhil solvadhu pola enna oru humble.. Like it...


http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00093.html

tvsankar
31st October 2008, 05:08 PM
SP irukum podhu pesadha thread iruka muidyuma

bangalore meet - Check panren... :D

thumburu
6th November 2008, 04:28 PM
hi Usha, Shivaranjini must be the most fav raga of almost all the Indian MD's after Sindubairavi and [Yaman]Kalyani. But the way Raja has handled it, I can bet no other MD would have done. Normally they employ this scale o depict pathos/poignant situation where as Raja has used it for romantic["Naan pooveduthu vaikkanum" , ecstasy["adi athaadi", erotic "dhak dhak karne laga"'s original telugu version, grief ,"oru moodan kadhai sonnaan" and so on...
"Mayilaadum thoppil" - may be in "Abheri/Bhimplaas"

NormalMan
6th November 2008, 07:45 PM
Anyone has the mp3 version of "Unnai Naan Parkayil" from kannukoru vannakili?

tvsankar
6th November 2008, 07:58 PM
thumburu,
You are most welcome...
thanks for the details of Sivaranjani.

Ungaluku sariya enaku raagam pathi
pesa mudiyadhu thumburu.

I know little bit only. But i can understand,

Ss. Happy Version ku Sivaranjani yai
BEST aga use panniyavar IR ......

Aberi ya - mayiladum thopil . thank you.

tvsankar
6th November 2008, 07:59 PM
Normal man,
wait for sometime...
i try my best.

tvsankar
6th November 2008, 08:09 PM
Today pick : Sakkara katti sakkara katti

Film : Ullae Veliyae

Singers : Great SPB and SJ

Raagam : Charukesi

Vazhakam pola

Great Guitar,
Beautiful Beat
Very nice Flute

TV il kekkadha sound ai indha link il ketka mudigiradhu.
Thanks a lot for Thiraipadal.com Team people....
Nanri solla varthai ilai.
Excellent Audio Quality.....

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00678.html

krish244
7th November 2008, 12:42 PM
Usha, thanks for the sakkara katti song. Only recently I keep hearing about charukesi raagam and this song had the best impact on me so far.

Love the way SPB sings "mayilodu....paduthenadi.." charanam portion.

thanks,

Krishnan

tvsankar
7th November 2008, 06:09 PM
krish244
Thanks for the response.
Beautiful Charukesi from IR.

tvsankar
7th November 2008, 06:25 PM
Song : Kadhal nilave poovae

Film : Manikuyil

singers : Arunmozhi and Uma ramanan

Rare combo
kettadhae illai.Idhan first time.
Mesmoraizing tune...

Paaduvadharku kashtamkana tune nu matum puriyaradhu..

Arunmozhi and Uma ramanan paadara style il...

IR song na Tune podhum. Orchestration not necessary gara
madhiri oru beautiful melody........

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00346.html

krish244
7th November 2008, 06:44 PM
I just browsed IRs charukesi list at

http://thiraipaadal.com/IrRagamSongs.asp?art=&schCategory=Charukesi

Looks like I like many of them much more. Its just that I did not know that they are in charukesi.

thanks,

Krishnan

tvsankar
7th November 2008, 08:57 PM
krish,
Thanks for the link.
whether all the songs are in charukesi or not

my next pick is

Arumbagi mottagi poovagi

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00148.html

tvsankar
9th November 2008, 06:33 PM
Song : Idhazhenum mazhaiyilae

Film : Kavaluku kettikaran

Singers ; Mano and SJ

Enna ragam idhu?

Beautiful boss guitar.
Excellent Music Flow......
Padaravangalai kelvi kekkara madhiri Flute format

beat - Expect panna mudiyadha madhiri extend agi
starting point ku varum......... Great Man IR...
Enna oru confident and laagavam.........

Great - Beautiful - Nice - Excellent - idhai
thavira - paarata veru varthaigal irukiradha...

Indha paatin Orchestration ku Solla vendum.....

Mano and SJ - Orchestration ai purindhu konda singers..


http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00242.html

viraajan
9th November 2008, 07:00 PM
:ashamed: First time I listened to this song only yesterday. I dint know this song :(

Adhikaalai Nerame from Meendum kadhal kadhai. :bow:

Typical IR's masterpiece. A haunting song :bow:

Plum
10th November 2008, 06:58 PM
tvsankar, the recent picks are very good. Kaadhal nilaavae from manikkuyil was a 13-year long search for me. Thanks for that one. That movie also has thannerilae mugam paarkum aagayame?
viraajan, welome to raaja's world - dig deeper - you will find many such exhilirating surprises. Heard Engengo sellum from Pattakathi Bhairavan? - dont let that title put you off and you are in for bliss.

tvsankar
11th November 2008, 06:58 PM
viraajan,
welcome to this thread.Indha madhiri
theriyadha songs ai solla than indha
thread raajan.

tvsankar
11th November 2008, 07:01 PM
Dear Plum,
Thanks for ur nice word.
Thannerilae mugam parkum song is from Manikuyil.
thanks for the song.

tvsankar
11th November 2008, 07:08 PM
Song : Naan oru Raani
singer : S.Janaki
film : Mugathil mugam parkalam

Indha paatin prelude ku mayangiya kalam ninaivil
varugiradhu.

Adhigamaga radio vil Oli parapa padadha padal idhu.
cylone radio vil matumae ketta padal idhu.

Indha patin violin kagavum. Guitar kagavum
S.Janaki yin padum style kagavum
Thavam irundhu kettadhu ...........
Ennai ponda sila peral matumae unara mudiyum.. I think.

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00375.html

app_engine
11th November 2008, 07:44 PM
Thavam irundhu kettadhu ...........
Ennai ponda sila peral matumae unara mudiyum.. I think.



Add me to that 'sila pEr':-)

Before the wide availability of "burma bazaar' cassette players, listening to music day-to-day was mostly confined to radio. (Ofcourse, for me there was this tea-stall in our village run by the son of my father's colleague...dhinathanthi, vadai & IR).

With AIR's music time limited to a max of 30 min a day (that too with a marked bias against IR), இலங்கை ஓளிபரப்புக்கூட்டுஸ்தாபனம் தமிழ்ச்சேவை-2 was the oasis for souls like me. One of the less important reasons for the sharp pain felt for the 1983 conflicts there:-(

And to tune the ears to pick out the bass guitar sounds in the "valve" radio was another challenge:-)

Skipping a corporation bus to private bus and be able to listen to songs was another common trait of youngsters of that gen.

'நானொரு ராணி' - nice song, effortlessly rendered by SJ & IR!

thumburu
12th November 2008, 04:20 PM
Usha, "idhazhennum " from "Kavalukku Gettikaran" seems set to "VakhuLabharanam" scale . However, from the same movie, my pick would be "solai iLanguil" , a breezy Shankarabharanam :)
I would have heard "naan oru raaNi" just once or twice from SLBC . Other than the pallavi,I dunt recollect anything about the song . I heard the lovely duet "aasai nenjin kanavugaL" from "dhool" site. Thanks for reminding me of this

tvsankar
14th November 2008, 06:22 PM
Dear app,
Thanks for Great Reply.

Sila perla nengalum oruthara??? Niceeeeeee.

Bus stand , tea shop , Ilanai radio,

Ivaigal ellam sedha Service ai maraka mudiyadhu
app.

Enaku ipodhu thonum.

After 25 years,

Inter net la, TFM Page la, Orkut la,
yahoo group la, ellam IR songs ai pathi pesipom nu
solra madhiri vera version varumo??

Radio vil Guitar sound - already solli iruken app.

Oruthar poi Radio vin Arial ai pidichukanam
Kekkaravnaga radio kite yaraiyum pesama iru nu miratitu
radio kulaeyae kaadhai vechukanam.
appadi ketta konjama kekkum..........
Idhulae Arial ai pidikaravangaluku - andha paataiyum,
guitar nyanamum irundhal nalladhu.
Ohterwise no use of pidichifyying Arial like me..

appadi kashta pattu ketta Guitar sound ai inru
computer il, thraipadal.com il Best quality il
ketkum podhu
manadhil ondru thondriyadhu - kashta patta kadavul
kaapathuvar ..

so appo kashta patadhuku ipo kadavul ipo
Quality a vazhi pannitar...........

tvsankar
14th November 2008, 06:33 PM
thumburu,
welcome. Thanks for raaga detail.
Mayamalava gowla madhiri iruku ana ilai nu
ennoda kelvi nyanam sonnadhu.

Vagulabaranam - sari. IR in vagulabaranam
always Great.

one song - dont know the film name
"un ennam engae engae" by Uma Ramanan. is it
correct??

priya32
14th November 2008, 06:50 PM
உஷா,

'உன் எண்ணம் எங்கே எங்கே' பாட்டு 'தம்பி பொண்டாட்டி' -ங்ற படத்துல வர்ரது!

சுனந்தா பாடினது-ன்னு நினைக்கிறேன்! :)

tvsankar
14th November 2008, 07:55 PM
priya,
Thanks a lot.
paatai kekka thedindu iruken. :cry:

singer - sunatha va... ketutu solren priya...

tvsankar
14th November 2008, 08:13 PM
song : Vaanil parakum paravai

Film : Kadavul amaitha medai


Singer : Great Singer SJ


Indha padalai ipodhu dhan mudhal muraiyaga ketkiren.

Great.... Great..... Great...........

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00245.html

Sureshs65
14th November 2008, 09:56 PM
Hi Usha,

A very nice song. This is the first time I am also hearing this song. A typical early IR melody. It has lot of Suddha Saveri chaayal.

S.Suresh

rangan_08
20th November 2008, 04:29 PM
Y'day I was listening to " Idhaya Koil " song (Idhayam oru koil..) in FM. Actually, I like both SPB & IR's version.

This song triggered my thought. Right from Payanangal Mudivahillai days, Gnani has given us some immortal gems in the films produced by Kovai thambi's Motherland Pictures.

I turned nostalgic, thinking how I used to be glued in front of that small tape recorder i had, listening to Gnani's songs during my school / college days. I used to buy hundreds and hundreds of cassettes and record my fav. songs.

To tell the truth, Gnani played a major role in designing my 12th std. mark sheet :D

tvsankar
21st November 2008, 05:11 PM
suresh,
Thank you.

sudha saveri - kettu pakkren. solren...

tvsankar
21st November 2008, 05:17 PM
rangan,
Very nice nostalgia ...

Ovvoru film songs um ketpadharkaga
varumae oru eagerness - adhu mudiyavillai..

Innum andha eagerness iruku..........

"To tell the truth, Gnani played a major role in designing my 12th std. mark sheet " - appadiya..

NIchayam Tention ai sari seiyum oru music dhanae...

tvsankar
21st November 2008, 05:25 PM
Today pick : Kanmani kanmani

singers : Mano and chithra

Film ; Sathyavan


starting ludes - romba pidichadhu.

Beats - Indha Beats ku naan epavum kiruku.......


Relax ana oru Composiition...........

...

Mangalyam thandhuna - Male chorus il
lali lali - Female chorus

Song in Beat oda ketkum podhu - REally nice experience.

Orchestration - very sharp to hear. dont know...

Mano and Chithra - Nice rendition......

http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00583.html

kaveri odi vandhu
kalanai serndhadha

mohanam padi vandhu
marbinil saindhadha

ana padalin male chorus um , singers in rendition um,
some lyric um -

edho oru sogathai solamal solvadhu pola thonudhae.....

tvsankar
24th November 2008, 11:57 PM
Song : Poneduthu varen

singers : Mano and Chithra

Film : Saamy potta Mudichu


This is the first time, i am hearing this song.

beautiful Composition........

Raagam - Brindhavana saranga????????

Very pleasing Beat...

Singers kuda friendly aga, vodophone add
madhiri azhaga varudhu.......

I enjoy it very much.....

Mano and Chithra rendition - Always Sweeeeeeeeeeet.

Flute - Singers kuda pesudhu..

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00578.html

Innum enna solla?????????

Sureshs65
25th November 2008, 04:43 AM
Hi Usha,

Lovely song. I haven't heard this earlier. You are right. Based on Brindavana Saranga.

S.Suresh

tvsankar
25th November 2008, 08:26 PM
Suresh,
Naan right ilai pola irukae.
Oru friend solrar - idhu Madhyamavathi with
little bit Sri ragam nu......

tvsankar
25th November 2008, 08:44 PM
Today song : Maama malai neram

singer : SJ

Film : Ambikai neril vandhal



Wat a song from IR and SJ combo.

Always its a mystery from IR and SJ ....

Very very nice ludes.....

Excellant Sterio works..

Prelude is very nice and different......

Guitar - IR - vera enna solla....

Marandhu pona oru GEM.

Inime maraka chance illai. hahaha.

Big Thanks to THiraipadal.com TEam people........

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00032.html

Sureshs65
25th November 2008, 11:32 PM
Usha,

I always feel it is a bit tricky in film songs to differentiate between Madhyamavathi and Brindavana Saranga. To me I did get the 'chaayal' of Madhyamavathi as well as that of Brindavana Saranga. It could be Madhyamavathi as well.

S.Suresh

tvsankar
26th November 2008, 12:47 AM
Suresh,
wait. Innum 4 perai ketkalam.

Indha IR song irukae.......

adhu Kurudargal kaiyil patta Yanai madhiri.

avanga avanga unarndhadhai solvanga.

andha andha view la song ai kettu parkalam.

so ellam view um kettukalam . Enjoy um
pannalam. No prob........


Surely all the views will be excellent only....

tvsankar
29th November 2008, 06:47 PM
Today song : kaathirundhen thaniyae

Film : Raasa magan

singers : Chandrasekar and Latha (New Singers ...)


Mogana ragam madhiri irukae....

Gavanika vaikum Beat........

Simple but Sweet composition....

Excellent Guitar work.....

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00544.html

Saagar
30th November 2008, 10:46 AM
Chandrasekar has sung a few songs in that period in tamil & malayalam... incl some more for Raaja... don't remember the exact ones now. But have read in a mag at that time that he is AM Raaja's son.

Sureshs65
30th November 2008, 04:57 PM
Usha,

Lovely selection as usual. I think it is Mohana Kalyani.

S.Suresh

tvsankar
2nd December 2008, 12:03 AM
Saagar,
Thanks for the info.

Chandrasekar - A.M.Raaja voda son a ?? oh nice......

tvsankar
2nd December 2008, 12:06 AM
suresh,
Thanks for ur frequent visit here .....

MOhana kalyani ya ???

Sollitae dhanae. Ipo indha paatai ketta
mohana kalyani ya than thona poradhu......
hahaha....

tvsankar
2nd December 2008, 12:12 AM
Today song : Azhagazhaga poothiruku

Film : Kaali


Singer : P.Susheela



PS in Style in IR is something special.

LUdes ai distrub pannamal, dominate pannamal,

ludes udan onraga inaindhu but Paduvadhil
care eduthu , paadi, paatai sweet aga seidhu viduvar.

andha madhiri oru padal idhu.......

Simple orchestration.BUt haunting tune...

RAdio vil thadai seiya patta padal idhu.

ADhigam kettadhu ilai.

Vazhakam pola, Thiraipadal .com ku ennudaiya nanri.....

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00227.html

tvsankar
9th December 2008, 05:51 PM
Today song : kola kolaya mundhirika

Film : Palooti valartha kili

Singer : Great SJ


Indha padalaiyum kekka kaathinrundha naatkal
dhan ninaivil varugiradhu....

Beautiful Ludes........

Indha tempo - surprises us to hear.....

Lovely days those were...... Nothing more to tell....


http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00457.html

tvsankar
20th December 2008, 11:00 AM
Today pick " Oru Aalam

Singers : Beloved IR and Chitra


Film : Punniyavathi


Indha padathai miss panni iruken.

Very bad of me.

IR and Chithra - Always gives something different.

Ivvalavu naal miss pannitene nu varutham.......

Wat a composition. Guitar work......

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00523.html

Raagam experts - pl tell me the raagam

Gowri manohari Dharmavathi nu kaleidascope madhiri
raagam color color a theiryaradhae.....

raagas
23rd December 2008, 06:55 PM
The same IR and Chitra combo again.

Film: Chinna Kuyin Paadudhu
Link: http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00091.html

Song: Unnai Naane

What an exceptional composition!!! Beautiful tune, wonderful orchestration.

Makes me just go out to look for some meadowlands or fields in the dawn.

Sureshs65
24th December 2008, 07:30 PM
Usha,

Thanks for the song. I also cannot make out what the raga is though there is definitely some Dharmavathi / Madhuvanthi in it :)

Raagas,

Thanks for the song. Somehow I haven't heard any song from this movie. Actually there are lot of Illayaraja movies whose songs I haven't heard :( Thanks to Thiraipaadal site and people like Usha I am hearing those now.

S.Suresh

tvsankar
24th December 2008, 07:44 PM
Dear raagas,
Thanks for your pick.

Your pick is set in Vagulabaranam. i think.

Suresh,

welcome back. Raagam patri pesikalam. no prob.

hahahaha.

Unai nananae is nice one suresh.

Yes. My heartiest Thanks to Thiraipaadal.com people...

I could not access this site past one week.

Now i can.

Tell my pick today....

tvsankar
24th December 2008, 08:21 PM
today pick : Ingu irukum kalam varaikum

Singer : Uma RAmanan

Film : Edhirkaatru

I am impressed by the lyrics also.

As usual IR's Guitar and piano.

Uma Ramanin voice - baya bhakthi udan paadum bhavam

I like it very much.

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00159.html

ajithfederer
25th January 2009, 12:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1SRRwCP2UM&feature=related

One of my most fav songs from IR.

ananth222
25th January 2009, 05:41 AM
"Nethu varikkum" from "Kasthurimaan" (2005)

http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00284.html

interesting patterns. If you liked NL, check this one out.

Sureshs65
25th January 2009, 10:08 PM
I liked the song Ananth. Very typical Illayaraja song. Nowadays that is the problem !! If it is a typical Illayaraja song, everyone says 'Oh, it is the same old Raja It is dated etc'. If he does something new, another set says, 'This is not Raja we know. It is not as it was in 80s' :)

S.Suresh

baroque
25th January 2009, 11:42 PM
Nethu ....kasturimaan....variant of gundu malli gundu malli... solla marandha kadhai tune.
Same tune has been used in 1999 - film Annan....song VAYASU PULLA.....IR AND SUJATHA.

yesterday watched KUMBAKKARAI THANGAIYA....
what an album! mesmerizing flute usages, honey soaked vocals & tunes! :musicsmile:

tvsankar
26th January 2009, 02:23 AM
Dear ananth,
Thanks for netru. indha paatai
ipodhu dhan mudhal muraiyaga ketkiren.

Beautiful guitar....

Dear ajith,
enna song youtube adhu? youtube enaku
work agalai. suspense aga irukae...

tvsankar
26th January 2009, 02:27 AM
Dear ananth,
Indha paatu - sometime -
Vanna mozhi manae
by KJY
from Sedhupathi IPS paatai ninaivu
paduthugiradhe??

Enna ragam ? solla muidyuma?

ananth222
26th January 2009, 02:51 AM
"Nethu varaikum" is "pahadi" according to http://www.geocities.com/ilaiyaragam/index.html
the song also reminds me a little of "alolam kili thopile" from "Siraichaalai" (mainly the orchestration).

Sureshs65
26th January 2009, 10:54 AM
Baroque,

You are right. The ragam of this song and 'Gundu Malli' seem to be the same, though Raja takes it a different route in the charanams. A very nice melody.

Fully agree with you on Kumbakarai Thangayya.

S.Suresh

baroque
26th January 2009, 11:58 AM
Shri.Ilayaraaja wanders-delirious :) remember the song yedhedho ennam valarthen...punnagai mannan too pallavi goes in pahadi melody but charanams deviates. Same in naadham en jeevaney.... Pallavi absolute Abheri but charanams, Raaja runs in Keeravani scale. poovomaa.... chinna thambi.... pallavi gives Sivaranjani bhaavam and then he runs on keeravani notes, kaadhoram lolaakku kadhaiya.... just about your ears start to realize ambience of Raga ASAAVERI, Ilayaaraja runs away, takes off with his job of churning out tunes. :)
The other day I was listening to MANJU KULIRUM......SANDHAYAKKU VIRINJA POOVU.... enchanting prelude aalaap gave me an amazing pahadi touch(kora kagaaz..Aradhana... reminds)

I have no theory knowledge :D ...I know few keerthanais by listening. :) I go by NOT NECESSARILY IN THE SAME SCALE... THE IMPROVISATIONS LIES IN THE MODULATION AND TRANPOSITION OF DIFFERENT KEYS.... raaga bhaavam.

Indian cinema has offered some stunning pahadies.
From Raga perspective and the soulful tunes, some of them I adore....
Ilayaraaja's indha maan.... karagattakkaran is an amazing pahadi with waltz touch.
mounamaana neram... is a nice Pahadi.
isharon .....kashmir kikali...O.P.Nayyar
naadu adhai naadu.... is a passionate pahadi from MSV.
kabhi kabhi.... Khayyam Saab's pahadies are glorious composition.
chandavika chand.....Ravi saab's classic.
orey naal unai naan... Ever green Shri.IR
kannukku kulamedhu.... Classical heavy wt from Shri.MSV
kora kagaaz....Aradhana... GREAT R.D.Burman.
2008 SIFA ,Sanjose concert Ranjani-Gayatri sang Paayo ji maine ram ratan .... bhajan in Rag pahadi... What a soulful singing.
Vinatha.

thumburu
26th January 2009, 03:51 PM
"paattu unnai izhukkudha" from "kumbakkarai thangaiyyah" is such a fun riot with SPB/SJ's wonderful chemistry. ARR seems to be inspired by SJ's opening humming and he has used the same tune for "barso re" in the "nannaare nannaare" part [:) JK]

baroque
26th January 2009, 10:16 PM
pattu unnai..... :musicsmile: SPB makes every song better.
Barso...nannare.....GURU... carries rag BASANT BAHAR-carnatic kanada... that's is the same tune of pudhu vellai mazhai..... Roja.

Kakkai siraginiley too outstanding album with enchanting flute works, I enjoyed the movie again yesterday.

Ok..
Rehashed tune + S.P.B + Gramaththu aasai Raaja with bewitching Flute orchestration :musicsmile: , I go with
VAANAM IDI........UNNAI NINAICHEN PATTU PADICHEN THIS MORNING.
MADHURA MARIKKOZHUNDHU..... in mayamalawa gowlai tune is GRAND indeed.
Vaanam idi.... by Lover boy with janaki is no less enchanting. I LOVE IT.
vinatha.

ajithfederer
26th January 2009, 11:16 PM
Sorry ippo dhan paathein.

It is the classic "Ooru vittu ooru vandhu" from Karagattakkaran. Malaysia Vasudevan(My fav singer) singing the song :).



Beautiful guitar....

Dear ajith,
enna song youtube adhu? youtube enaku
work agalai. suspense aga irukae...

tvsankar
27th January 2009, 12:22 AM
Thank you ajithfederer.
Inga inum youtube work agalai.
anadhum nicyaym parkiren.
Adhigam kekkadha paatu idhu.

Thank you for the youtube.

ajithfederer
27th January 2009, 12:37 AM
No problem Usha madam :).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz6a3X4ZVvA&feature=related

Who is this singer Jayachandran. What other songs has he sung?.

The music brings the sorrow of the actor and his emotions.

Ilayaraja/Jayachandran :notworthy:

complicateur
27th January 2009, 12:55 AM
Who is this singer Jayachandran. What other songs has he sung?
neraya pAdi irukkAr feddy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayachandran). A lot of popular hits especially for rAjA and he sang all the songs in the Vaidehi kAththirunthAL album. A couple of songs that I lsten to all the time:
1. Poo mudiththu pottu vaiththa vatta nilA
2. KALidAsan KaNNadAsan from sUrakOttai Singakutty

ajithfederer
27th January 2009, 01:04 AM
Thanks Kambili. Idhukku dhan periavanga venumgradhu :).

Third Raja song of the day is co(??)Incidentally from one of your favorite Tamil movies. I always push the streaming bar to 1:00 and start listening the song. On a loop now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v9rDP3M-jc

ajithfederer
27th January 2009, 01:23 AM
Jumping onto

இதழில் கதை எழுதும் நேரம் இது - உன்னால் முடியும் தம்பி (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y2U4XmYwLg)

An FM Range announcement


இந்த பாடலை பாடியவர்கள் பாலசுப்பிரமணியன் மற்றும் சித்ரா

:lol:

ajithfederer
27th January 2009, 01:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lIzPue8IXI&feature=related

KJY/Isairaaja/Mammooty/Amala :musicsmile:

Nalla flowpa innaiku :)

thamizhvaanan
27th January 2009, 08:27 AM
Who is this singer Jayachandran. What other songs has he sung?
neraya pAdi irukkAr feddy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayachandran). A lot of popular hits especially for rAjA and he sang all the songs in the Vaidehi kAththirunthAL album. A couple of songs that I lsten to all the time:
1. Poo mudiththu pottu vaiththa vatta nilA
2. KALidAsan KaNNadAsan from sUrakOttai Singakutty

AF,

Oru dheiyvam thandha poove from Kannathil Muthamittal was also sung by him :D

tvsankar
27th January 2009, 10:59 AM
Dear Friends,
Thread ai active a kondu porrenga.
Very nice.

Pasangala, naan songs sonna appo
ellam reply pannalai.
Ipo neenga matum pesinda enna artham?

Moderator ai kupidaren irungo.... :D

Dear Moderator,
Is there any rules to this thread?

ajithfederer
27th January 2009, 11:04 PM
Usha Madam

Naan indha sectionkku romba pudhusu. Rooles ellam theriadhu :P. Please continue your service :).

TV :ty:

tvsankar
27th January 2009, 11:51 PM
Dear ajithfederer,
No prob. Naan onnum moderator illai.
Thread disturb agama continue aganam
nu oru chinna asai pa.

Otherwise no prob. pl share your songs here.

With Love,
Usha Sankar.

ajithfederer
28th January 2009, 12:15 AM
cha cha Usha madam appadi illa. Naan dhan rules theriama valakkam pola 4-5 posts pannitein. :oops:

Sanjeevi
28th January 2009, 12:19 AM
cha cha Usha madam appadi illa. Naan dhan rules theriama valakkam pola 4-5 posts pannitein. :oops:

:lol:

yaarappa change the thread to Song of the hour

ajithfederer
28th January 2009, 12:20 AM
Engada innum pradhu yaarum kodukaleeyannu yosichein :lol:


cha cha Usha madam appadi illa. Naan dhan rules theriama valakkam pola 4-5 posts pannitein. :oops:

:lol:

yaarappa change the thread to Song of the hour

tvsankar
28th January 2009, 01:41 AM
Sanjeevi and ajithfederer,
Nijama change pannidalama

Song of the hour nu?
Idhai moderator dhan decide pannanam pa.

tvsankar
28th January 2009, 01:50 AM
song - kathey kathey

singer - bhavatharini

Film - Punniyavathi

Indha paatai ithanai varushama miss panni iruken...

Expect pannadha oru composition from IR.......

Bhavatharni voice is toooooooooooooo good in
this song. I love her voice very much.......

Guitar - idhu illama IR pattu iruka enna....

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00523.html

ananth222
28th January 2009, 02:53 AM
beautiful song! is there any better quality version available?
nice rich orchestrations.. Bhavatharini sounds like a little girl, which adds an innocence to the song...

ajithfederer
28th January 2009, 02:56 AM
I am a newbie to this section. I leave this question to veterans here :).

Sanjeevi and ajithfederer,
Nijama change pannidalama

Song of the hour nu?
Idhai moderator dhan decide pannanam pa.

ajithfederer
28th January 2009, 03:33 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlL2FoREH0M&feature=related

Tik Tik Tik - Idhu oru Kana Kaalam

I am a sucker for the Naadhir dhinna bit from 1:47 - 2:20 which equates to Musical Orgasm.

ananth222
28th January 2009, 04:05 AM
I think "Song of the moment" is a safe bet, as activity varies from few minutes to few months...! ;)

Ajith, check out the song "Ada machchamulla" from "Chinna veedu" - maybe to as good as "idhu oru kanaa kaalam" but similar techniques
http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00098.html

not so good quality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZl8V6G1iYw

tvsankar
28th January 2009, 03:45 PM
Dear ananth222,
Song of the MOMENT - really is true.
Nice words for this thread.

Moderator gavanicha thevalai...

ajithfederer
29th January 2009, 09:04 AM
Song of the Moment - Ennama kannu / Mr Bharath

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsTjI5C0hHM&feature=related

:D

ajithfederer
29th January 2009, 09:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giQA-Fs7m54&feature=related

Godfather of all Kuthu Vagayaraas - Singari sarakku/ Kaaki sattai

SPB/ Kamal :clap:

tvsankar
29th January 2009, 10:04 AM
ajithfederer,
edho decide panni irukae.
hmm. continue

singari vida enaku pidicha kuthu song
of
spb/kamal

idho

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=KQyVepqompI&feature=related

Sureshs65
29th January 2009, 11:43 AM
Usha,

Thanks once again for this lovely song. I haven't heard this earlier. Excellent and typical Raja melody. As ananth says, Bavadharini sounds so young. It will be nice to have a good quality rendition of this song.

ajithfederer,

My own feeling of this thread is to use it to discover newer songs. So if you find a song, which is not oft heard, and it becomes a song of the day/moment, let it be here. I honestly don't know the background of this thread but I have come here mainly to check out the rare songs recommended by fellow IR fans.

The one song I discovered recently and goes with the topic of kuthu songs, is available here
http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00285.html

Check out 'Anne Anne' (it is given as Anna Anna in the site). (I heard this movie, 'Kaadal Jaadi' was not released.) Gives you an idea of what a 'pettai' kuthu paatu should be like. I laughed out loud, both due to the music and the lyrics. We can have an idea of what Myskin would have got had he wanted a kuthu song from Raja in his movie by listening to this song.

S.Suresh

tvsankar
29th January 2009, 12:59 PM
Dear Suresh,
Thanks for the support....

Appada - Nee purinjindu irukaiyae..

Indha thread oda purpose ai..

Thank God......

Shakthiprabha.
29th January 2009, 01:10 PM
I think "Song of the moment" is a safe bet, as activity varies from few minutes to few months...! ;)

Ajith, check out the song "Ada machchamulla" from "Chinna veedu" - maybe to as good as "idhu oru kanaa kaalam" but similar techniques
http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00098.html

not so good quality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZl8V6G1iYw

hey coooooooooool song :ty: loved the song


/ I love 'chittu kuruvi' from this album :redjump: /

complicateur
29th January 2009, 01:14 PM
The one song I discovered recently and goes with the topic of kuthu songs, is available here
http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00285.html

Check out 'Anne Anne' (it is given as Anna Anna in the site). (I heard this movie, 'Kaadal Jaadi' was not released.) Gives you an idea of what a 'pettai' kuthu paatu should be like. I laughed out loud, both due to the music and the lyrics. We can have an idea of what Myskin would have got had he wanted a kuthu song from Raja in his movie by listening to this song.

S.Suresh
Suresh,
Thanks for linking kAthal jAthi. That kuththu song is excellent! And the female version of Enna MaRanthAlum was sung by Mahathi, her first playback song (the site says unknown).

complicateur
29th January 2009, 01:23 PM
Ajith, check out the song "Ada machchamulla" from "Chinna veedu" - maybe to as good as "idhu oru kanaa kaalam" but similar techniques
rAjA in all his funky glory! Bass lines do their own bond theme almost, just brilliant.

Sureshs65
29th January 2009, 01:40 PM
Thanks Compli. I didn't know the details of the kutthu song as to who sung it. I later checked out rakkamma.com site (on advice of RS). I find that it has been sung by Karthik Raja, Yuvan and Venkat Prabhu. Not sure who is doing the bulk of the singing as I am not familiar with their voices.

S.Suresh

Sureshs65
29th January 2009, 01:41 PM
BTW, the 'Katre Katre' from the same movie (Kadhal Jadhi)by Karthik is excellent as well.

S.Suresh

tvsankar
29th January 2009, 07:31 PM
Song - Chickendra adaiyil

Film - Iniya uravu poothadhu

Singer - my Beloved Singer Great Singer
Dr.S.J....


Enna oru azhagana paatu. Ithanai varusham miss
panni iruken,

IR music ai solradha
SJ Rendition ai solradha

or

Indha paatin Guitar work ai azhagaga ezhudhiya
Krishnan patri solradha........

Niraiya Nalla vishyagnal niraindha oru Beautiful song.

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00203.html


krishnan
---CHIKENDRA AADAIYIL - INIYA URAVU POOTHATHU
A very interesting, off-beat track!! Guys would be interested in watching this video !

A systematic drumming pattern and a female voice clearly hinting us that it is an Aerobics Lesson!! At 00:15, begins the melodious music from the electric versions of the guitars..Solid Bass-Bass combination!!

Notice that one Bass guitar plays a slightly higher pitch while the other guitar that keeps going up and down the scale SLAPS and POPS very gently and carefully!!This is something VERY VERY VERY DIFFICULT TO DO BECAUSE THE GUITARIST HAS TO TAP THE STRING SOFTLY WITH A FINGER AND SIMULTANEOUSLY PLUCK IT...THIS IS EASILY SAID THAN DONE!! At the same time, his other hand must move up and down the fretboard!! I have noticed throughout the song that this slapping-popping goes on flawlessly!! My god, what a Wizard , our Maestro!!!
If you are still not clear with what I said, pause the player at 00:15 and play it again...I am talking about the low-pitched Bass guitar....

Now at 00:29, the female voices go "three three three.." and SLAP-POP BASS GUITAR GETS INTENSE!

the pallavi at 00:36, when Jananki sings "Chikendra Aadaiyil" the Bass only POPS...there is a pause and the aerobic 1-2-3-4..now at this aerobic count, the Bass Slaps and Pops!!! next line "Sittukkal Aadattum" and after that the aerobic count..This time the Bass and trumpet climb up the scale!! Wow!! Too much brainwork by Maestro!

the first interlude with the aerobic count and music at 01:37 with the trumpet..at 01:39, the Bass guitar SLAPS AND POPS again gently...now i cannot call this Bass as an accompaniment to the trumpet because it is more than just accompaniment! Raajaish Bass, I can call it!
Here onwards, trumpet keeps playing and the Bass? You guessed it, Pops and slaps!!

CHARANAM:
Now notice here that the Bass gets Humble! But it still upto something behind Janaki's voice!! Little lesser slap and Pop!!

Now notice the jump from charanam to pallavi...After the 1-2-3-4, the Bass slaps loud and Pops still louder!!

contd. 6:44 pm (42 minutes ago) krishnan
CHIKENDRA--SOFT AND NON-STOP SLAPPING AND POPPING
2nd interlude similar to 1st....

In the 2nd charanam, when Janaki sings the line, ABHINAYA KOLANGAL, ADHARKENA THAALANGAL AT 03:35, the Bass seems to get softer and meaningful adding some magic to those words!!

ALL OF YOU READING THIS ONE, GIVE A BIG HAND OF APPLAUSE TO Mrs. LATU FOR MENTIONING THIS SONG!! I HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS MUCH SLAPPING AND POPPING IN ANY OTHER SONG!

BUT THE POPPING AND SLAPPING, UNLIKE FUNK MUSIC, IS MUCH MORE SOFTER AND GENTLE!

FULL MARKS TO THE GUITARIST WHO PLAYED THIS SLAP AND POP THROUGHOUT THE SONG!! I CANT IMAGINE HIS FINGER'S PLIGHT BECAUSE THROUGHOUT THE SONG, HE CONSTANTLY HITS AND PUSHES THE STRING!

THE GUITARIST'S CONTROL OF THE FRETBOARD CAN BE COMPARED TO ARJUNAR'S CONTROL OF THE BOW AND ARROW!!!

SEE, A TOTALLY NON-IMPORTANT SONG FROM A FILM WHICH FEATURES A NOT-SO-FAMOUS HERO LIKE SURESH HAS SUCH A MIND-BOGGLING COMPOSITION!
THIS IS ENOUGH PROOF THAT THALAIVAR IS NEVER BANNER-ORIENTED OR MONEY-ORIENTED BUT IS QUALITY ORIENTED! WHY, HE COULD HAVE DONE SUCH A SONG IN A KAMAL OR RAJNI FILM? BUT HE NEVER DID THAT!!

SO MANY SUCH EXAMPLES WHERE THALAIVAR HAS COMPOSED SOME FIRST CLASS MUSIC FOR A NON-FAMOUS BANNER OR ACTOR!!

A PERSON WHO SEES THALAIVAR FOR THE FIRST TIME WOULD NOT BELIEVE THAT IT IS THIS DHOTI-KURTA CLAD, VERMILLION SMEARED SHORT STATURED WHITE BEARDED MAN HAS SCORED MUSIC FOR THIS SONG!!

THALAIVA, INDHA WRITE-UP THANGALIN PORPAADHATHIRKKU SAMARPANAM!!!

pro-Raaja... krishnan

IR in Guitar work ai Solvadhil - KRISHNAN IS A GEM.....

crajkumar_be
29th January 2009, 07:53 PM
TV,
Neenga dhaan andha (Orkut) Usha-va?? :)

tvsankar
29th January 2009, 07:59 PM
amam rajkumar.
Neenga angae irukeengala?
Endha perla?

tvsankar - en husband . ivar id la
dhan first first net ku vnadhen.
adhala indha ID melae oru sentiment.
change pannalai.

so, naan tv ilai. Usha Sankar dhan.

crajkumar_be
29th January 2009, 08:13 PM
Bala (Karthik)
Crajkumar_be - a friend of mine. I started using his id after i was banned sometime back :)

tvsankar
29th January 2009, 08:24 PM
oho
bala dhan neengala
nice to know you
alwarpettai andavan? inga neenga dhana

tvsankar
30th January 2009, 09:56 AM
Dear Friends,
As usual, i am continuing my duty.
Anybody want to share IR songs,
pl pm me.

I'll host the reqeusted song.

I think u may understand me and the thread's
rules.



http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/lyrsort.php?t=6013


pl see the above link friends....

From today i post the song.....

Sureshs65
30th January 2009, 11:01 AM
Usha,

A lovely song and a lovely analysis of the guitar work. Amazing stuff there. Thanks for pointing to this song. As you said, in case I want to point to any song of Raja, I will PM you. Keep up the great work.

S.Suresh

Shakthiprabha.
30th January 2009, 11:11 AM
Usha,

wow :thumbsup: Great job!

Ive added it as my fav :)

tvsankar
30th January 2009, 12:13 PM
Dear Suresh and Shakthi,.
Thanks for the responses.

tvsankar
30th January 2009, 12:26 PM
Today song : Penmanae sangeedham

Singers : Great SPB and Great SJ

Film : Naan Sigapppu Manidhan

This song is requested by ananth222.

Very soft and gentle melody from IR.

Rajini's duet from IR - Something Special and Nice.

ENakum indha paatu romba pidikum...

IR Rajini - Guitar illamala?

Beautiful bass guitar...

ananth222 - enna ragam nu solla mudiyuma??

link for this song

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00395.html


Enna oru rendition from SPB and SJ..

Decent Love kana oru Decent Song....

youtube for the song


http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=I-V9ARAWW2E

enjoy ananth and others......

Enaku indha Rajini yum ambikavum romba pidikum.

ananth222
30th January 2009, 01:33 PM
Thanks for posting the song!
I am not an expert in raagam so I turn to the ilaiyaragam site :) and it is mentioned as shankharabharanam.

btw, can some expert say if the thalam of this song can be called "deshadi"?


Decent Love kana oru Decent Songgood point!

Sureshs65
30th January 2009, 02:06 PM
Hi Ananth,

I am no expert but I concur with you that the talam can be considered as Desadhi. The main song starts 6 aksharams (1 1/2 beat) from the samam. Since the talam is Adi, this start can be considered Desadhi. Slightly tricky to get it since the beat is constant and you don't have any stress points to go with.

S.Suresh

Plum
30th January 2009, 05:34 PM
Today, I heard probably TMS's best under IR. Not sure if the movie was released. I think it is called Vetrikku Oruvan. Yaarukkavadhu Theriyuma idhai pathi?

app_engine
30th January 2009, 08:18 PM
Today, I heard probably TMS's best under IR. Not sure if the movie was released. I think it is called Vetrikku Oruvan. Yaarukkavadhu Theriyuma idhai pathi?

"thOraNam Adidum mEdaiyil nAyagan, nAyagi"?

That was sweet but I would rate 'endhan pon vaNNamE' (nAn vAzha vaippEn) as TMS's best for IR.

Sanjeevi
30th January 2009, 08:58 PM
Today, I heard probably TMS's best under IR. Not sure if the movie was released. I think it is called Vetrikku Oruvan. Yaarukkavadhu Theriyuma idhai pathi?

"thOraNam Adidum mEdaiyil nAyagan, nAyagi"?

That was sweet but I would rate 'endhan pon vaNNamE' (nAn vAzha vaippEn) as TMS's best for IR.

I vote for "Nallavarkellam Satchigal Rendu" to elect best of IR+TMS combo :D

ananth222
30th January 2009, 11:53 PM
Usha akka, I don't think there is any hope for this thread! :huh:

tvsankar
31st January 2009, 12:43 AM
anath,
ellarukum enna idea nu theiryalai including
our moderator..... hmmmm

dont worry ananth,

ethanai nalaiku ellarum ipadi pesaranga nu
parpom.

apparam indha thread a free a irukum enru
nambaren......

Dear Guys,
Asai irundha new thread open panni
anga pesikonga.
indha thread ai disturb seiya vendiya
avasiyam illai enru ninaikiren...

With Love,
Usha Sankar.

Plum
31st January 2009, 11:00 AM
app, no there was this foor-tapping high energy brilliant aadal paadalil ulagame mayangadho. TMS sounds young and peppy.

thumburu
31st January 2009, 04:56 PM
"pen maane "- with wonderful bass lines followed by a haunting humming by SJ and then a lead guitar ,a tiny flute bit , the opening of "pen maane" is the perfect invitation to a breezy Shankarabharanam scale number. The melodic drawl in the charanams , overlapping humming - full credit to SPB/SJ legendary singers who have made these songs unforgettable

tvsankar
31st January 2009, 10:53 PM
[tscii:980d6068e1]DEar ananth, suresh and thumburu.
Thanks for the responses.

Pon maanae - bass guitar

is written by Great Educator krishnan.

PON MAANE - NAAN SIGAPPU MANITHAN
What a beautiful Shankarabharanam song! Two guitars, both Bass guitars play such a soft prelude tune! Notice that one Bass supports Janaki’s humming neatly…Keyboards and flute to emphasise the shankarabharanam raagam..

In the pallavi, notice a very strong Bass in SPB ‘s background …

The 1st interlude with a lovely violin start, following which we hear an electric guitar with a keyboard with a sound bass guitar in the background…at 01:28, there is a short and sweet tune from the flute..I think the first interlude ends with the electric version of the violin…

A melodious charanam with good violins and Bass…The Bass guitar makes way for the pallavi…

2nd interlude with a loud Bass and keyboard….Fantastic violins in this interlude…For a change, Raaja goes with the classical La La La!!

The highlights are the soothing violins and low pitched, firm Bass ..

I hope all will enjoy this nice post.[/tscii:980d6068e1]

app_engine
1st February 2009, 08:46 AM
sorry for the nit pick, Usha chEchi, nAn sivappu manidhan song is 'peN mAnE' (and not 'pon')hi..hi.. not all cases of pEn are pon :-)

tvsankar
1st February 2009, 11:47 AM
correct panniten app.

tvsankar
4th February 2009, 12:38 PM
Today pick - Requested by ananth222.

Song - Apapapa thithikum mutham un mutham

Singer - Great SPB

Film - Japanil Kalyana Raman


appapapa thithikum
muthum un mutham

enna ragalaiya paadi irupar namba thala.

from 2.41 to 3.03 min - indha manushan

Big Wind Instrument ku replacement a voice....

Yaralum mudiyadhu.

Indha short notes ai wind instrument alae
blow panna muidyadhu. I feel.

So , on the recording moments, IR might have told to Balu

like this, "Dei Neeaye fill pannidu" - its my imagination...

You can feel the same feel at starting hum itself.

Adhu evvalavu kashtam. Konja nerathukul, HHA sound ai
Punching a delivery panradhu....

Track ilum,. Ivaroda voice overlap aga vera notes oda varum..

Appo dhan strong effect kedachu iruku.

Its a Challenge between Brass Blowers verses Great Balu Raskal.

link
http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00222.html

enjoy ananth. pl post your views of this song....

Sureshs65
4th February 2009, 11:40 PM
Hi Usha,

Thanks to you and Ananth for the post.

Brass Blowers !!! Nice phrase. The first interlude is fantastic. Amazing brass blowing :) Second interlude with initially the voices dominating takes your breath away. Outstanding stuff. Those discussing in the other thread about various musical forms tried by Raja should listen to this. How will you classify this song? Jazz? Or shall we call it Razz or Raaz? (Pardon the pun. Razz can be thought of as a combination of Raja and Jazz. Raaz stands for secret in Hindi. It is indeed a very secret sauce that Raja has which enables him to fuse many musical forms so seemlessly). Needless to say, as Usha pointed out, superb singing by SPB.

S.Suresh

Sureshs65
4th February 2009, 11:42 PM
The 'pa pa pa' which SPB sings in the beginning, can that be termed scat singing? Those who know Jazz can clarify.

S.Suresh

ananth222
5th February 2009, 01:15 AM
I think it can be classified as R&B or jazz in parts... maybe even bebop.
Just great work from SPB and IR. great experimentation and rendition.

ananth222
5th February 2009, 01:25 AM
from 2.41 to 3.03 min - indha manushan

Big Wind Instrument ku replacement a voice....

Yaralum mudiyadhu.

Indha short notes ai wind instrument alae
blow panna muidyadhu. I feel.

So , on the recording moments, IR might have told to Balu

like this, "Dei Neeaye fill pannidu" - its my imagination...

That part from 2:41 is actually a 3 part harmonization - you can hear 3 separate layers of SPB voice in harmony. I think that IR must have composed it meticulously and ensured SPB sang it correctly. It is very tightly arranged in terms of rhythm and harmony - there is no room for improvisation there.

complicateur
5th February 2009, 05:23 AM
The 'pa pa pa' which SPB sings in the beginning, can that be termed scat singing? Those who know Jazz can clarify.

S.Suresh
I'm not a jazz expert but it does seem like an attempt at that style of singing. But the song is very structured so I wonder how much of it was completely improvised.

Excellent song and discussion by the way!

Sureshs65
5th February 2009, 09:55 AM
I guess Jazz purist may not classify any of Illayaraja's songs are jazz since he defines the whole structure of the song and there is not much room for improvisation by either the singer or the instrumentalist. Hence they would prefer to call it a song with 'jazz feel'. I remember reading Guitar Prasanna saying something on these lines when he reviewed the music of 'Mumbai Express'.

thumburu
6th February 2009, 08:07 PM
As Sureshs65 said, "appappaa" is indeed a brass beauty. Add SPB's effervescent flamboyance, frenzied paced rythm, great opening guitar to make this song the best in the otherwise forgettable movie

tvsankar
7th February 2009, 10:28 PM
Dear Friends,
Thanks a lot for the technical discussions.
(Enaku onnum theiryadhu pa. So ipadi matum
dhan solla mudiyum. hehhehe)

With Love,
Usha Sankar.

tvsankar
8th February 2009, 01:23 AM
today pick - solla solla enna perumai

Singer - vera yaru - Subbu chellam dhan

Film - Ellam Inba mayam

appapa thithikum - indha paatuku munnadiyae
experimental song aga indha paatai paditar SPB...

Enna oru Chorus

Guitar work ai pathi solla varthai ilai.

Wah Wah guitar - romba adhiyasam appo ellam.

SPB in Rendition - Sariyana Raskal ivan.
IR music ai oru vazhi panniduvan.....

Pl all of u listen and enjoy.

Indha paatuku en friend krishnan post pannatum.
Udanae copy panni inga podaren.adhu varaikukm
wait pannunga ellarum....

solla solla enna perumai

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00129.html

Sureshs65
8th February 2009, 01:07 PM
Thanks Usha. As usual a nice song and as usual I have not heard it earlier :) A very nice and fast number. Very typical Raja orchestration of those days.

S.Suresh

tvsankar
10th February 2009, 01:24 AM
Thanks for the response Suresh.
SPB style - kalakuvar....

tvsankar
10th February 2009, 01:29 AM
Dear popeye11,
Now i posted your request..

sorry for the delayed post...

tvsankar
10th February 2009, 01:41 AM
today pick - kathirundhen thaniyae

singers - Chandrasekar and Lekha

Film - Raasa magan
this song is reqeusted by popeye11 .

Beautiful pick dear popeyell.

IR music - Guitar dhan mudhalil gavanathai eerthadhu.

next - raagam - Mohanam i think

correct a nu ketutu nalai solren.

Next - Singers - Newa irukana rendu perum.

About Chandrasekar - i heard that He is son of A.M.Raja. is this true??

Wat about Lekha

Ivanga 2 perum padina matra songs enna?
Therinjavanga sollunga pa.

During 80s, IR songs - Guitar enru ketkkum podhu
ninaithu kolven - Guitar sound Loud aga ketkum
padi IR compose seidhal nanraga irukumae enru.

During 90s IR en asaiyai niraivetri vittar.

Enna oru Beautiful Sound of Guitar from HIs composition..

MOhanathai - azhagaga ,mayanga vaikum padi
compose seiyum oru Nice Composer He is.

About Beats - Situation ku yetra madhiri

kathirundhen thaniyae - porumaiyaga, asaiyaga
kaathirupadhai unarthuvadhai pola oru beats.
Great....

Kalm kalamayi kadhil - Enna azhagana Guitar..

Technicala onnum theiryadhu.
I am just feelings based Fan of IR.
Thats all.
Technical people, pl share your knowledge here...

Thanks a lot for your request dear popeye11

link

kaathirnudhen thaniyae

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00544.html

enjoy.

popeye11
10th February 2009, 03:20 AM
today pick - kathirundhen thaniyae

singers - Chandrasekar and Lekha

Film - Raasa magan
this song is reqeusted by popeye11 .

Beautiful pick dear popeyell.

IR music - Guitar dhan mudhalil gavanathai eerthadhu.

next - raagam - Mohanam i think

correct a nu ketutu nalai solren.

Next - Singers - Newa irukana rendu perum.

About Chandrasekar - i heard that He is son of A.M.Raja. is this true??

Wat about Lekha

Ivanga 2 perum padina matra songs enna?
Therinjavanga sollunga pa.

During 80s, IR songs - Guitar enru ketkkum podhu
ninaithu kolven - Guitar sound Loud aga ketkum
padi IR compose seidhal nanraga irukumae enru.

During 90s IR en asaiyai niraivetri vittar.

Enna oru Beautiful Sound of Guitar from HIs composition..

MOhanathai - azhagaga ,mayanga vaikum padi
compose seiyum oru Nice Composer He is.

About Beats - Situation ku yetra madhiri

kathirundhen thaniyae - porumaiyaga, asaiyaga
kaathirupadhai unarthuvadhai pola oru beats.
Great....

Kalm kalamayi kadhil - Enna azhagana Guitar..

Technicala onnum theiryadhu.
I am just feelings based Fan of IR.
Thats all.
Technical people, pl share your knowledge here...

Thanks a lot for your request dear popeye11

link

kaathirnudhen thaniyae

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00544.html

enjoy.

Arputhamana Intro with Super Alasal pinnitinga "chechi" :notworthy:

Indha paadalin "prelude" appadiye mei siliraka veikinradhu..

Sureshs65
10th February 2009, 05:53 AM
Aaah. Atlast one song that I have heard before :) A lovely song indeed. Does sound like Mohanam to me.

S.Suresh

raagas
10th February 2009, 01:36 PM
It is indeed Mohanam.

crvenky
10th February 2009, 02:09 PM
Usha, thanks for the song.
Hope you would have noticed the tambura shruthi coming in the beginning of the charanams. Nice idea.

Shakthiprabha.
10th February 2009, 02:13 PM
Chandrashekar. Very powerful voice :bow:
Do they sound like mildly diff versions of kjy and chitra?

tvsankar
11th February 2009, 11:35 PM
Dear popeye,
Welcome.
ADikadi nee songs reqeuest pannu ,
Rare songs kekakre .. thank you.

Dear suresh,
Nee kaeta paata idhu.
Unakum mohanam nu thonudha...

No prob. Yarum namai inga onnum
kekka matanga.
Anniki sonnaenae - adhae dhan - idhu
nama raajiyam.

So Mohanam nu sollikalam.
Unmaiyil, IR songs il Mohanam ragam
adhigam kettadhu ilai.
Yen endru enakae theriyavillai.
Inimel Mohanam padal aga thedi parthu kekkanam nu
decide panni iruken.

Dear Venky,
Thambura sruthi - kekkalai venky.Neenga
sonna pinbu ipodhu dhan ketkiren.

Solli koduthadahrku Thanks venky.

Dear sp,
vango.

KJY and Chitra - indha pair madhiri
oru Good pair aga than nenaika vechu
irukagna indha oru padalil.
nalla bhavam - ivanga voice il...

tvsankar
11th February 2009, 11:39 PM
It is indeed Mohanam.

Dear raagas,
Thanks for the confirmation..
ADikadi vandhu ragam pathi sollungalen.

With Love,
Usha Sankar.

tvsankar
11th February 2009, 11:51 PM
today song - Paavayargal maan polae

Singers - SPB and SJ

Film - Orae Mutham


qawwali types songs - IR music la just 2 or 3 dhan
irukiradhu ena ninaikren.

Indha paatu - Kawali type il start agum.

Anal, Udanae oru western style il change agi,
azhagaga continue aradhu.

then, kuthu paatu kanakaga style change aradhu.

Udanae, Western aga chage aradhu..

Really, this song is very much amazing...

ithanai style il change analum,

Immi alavu kuda JERK illamal,
Smooth aga land agum
INDHA MUSIC PILOT ai enna solvadhu....

Great Music PILOT He is...

Paavaiyargal maan polae

link

http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00444.html

ananth222
12th February 2009, 10:41 PM
missed a few good songs here!
I loved "solla solla enna perumai" - great guitar work. why should IR do any heavy metal when he has songs with guitar riffs like this?

"Paavayargal maan polae" though starts like qawwali it develops into different styles... the rhythm in "pattu selai kattum" parts is interesting.. I like the "pilot" analogy - he is like a pilot in an air show, we don't know where he will turn next! (unfortunately, nowadays he is landing in the Hudson river - great pilot skills wasted on polluted rivers)

Thanks for the great songs!

tvsankar
16th February 2009, 03:03 PM
Dear anath,
' Thanks for the response. Sorry for the delayed reply.
ooruku poitu vandhen .....

"he is like a pilot in an air show, we don't know where he will turn next! (unfortunately, nowadays he is landing in the Hudson river - great pilot skills wasted on polluted rivers) "

SSsSSS anantha.... kalam seiyara kolam........

tvsankar
16th February 2009, 03:16 PM
Today pick - chinna kanna

singers - SPB and SJ

Film - Magudam


Idhu dhan mudhal murai - indha paatai ketkiren.

Guitar solradhu - IR enru..

Manasuku pidichadhu.. Beautiful lullaby...

Thanks a lot to Thraipadal.com team members.....

chinna kanna

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00329.html

Sureshs65
17th February 2009, 12:10 AM
Usha,

I am also hearing it for the first time. As you said, a nice lulluby. Superb bass guitar. As usual for IR.

tvsankar
17th February 2009, 03:13 PM
Dear suresh,
Thanks for the response.
Guitar = IR = tats all.

tvsankar
17th February 2009, 03:25 PM
Today pick - Chinna poonkgodi

Singers - SPB and SJ

Film - Parvathi ennai paradi

This is the first time to hear this song.

As usual - I like it.

Rhytham, Guitar, Violin, Tabla

ellam - IR IR IR enru solgiradhae.............

Nice Melody song came from IR ...

chinna

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00463.html

sila padalai kettal - manadhil thondrum ennam

IR is a Great controler - Avarudaiya isai korvaiku

Miga azhagaga sellum isaiyai control panna
IR ku eppadi manam vrugiradho???

Shakthiprabha.
17th February 2009, 03:32 PM
Usha,

link work aagalaiye.

tvsankar
17th February 2009, 03:59 PM
Welcome SP..
Yennu theiryalaiyae..

here is the link.

chinna


http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00463.html

ananth222
17th February 2009, 09:36 PM
"chinna kanna" great melody, with a nice guitar rhythm (almost like old grateful dead).. 7 beat rhythm, upbeat song even though its a lullaby
grat song, thanx!

Shakthiprabha.
17th February 2009, 09:42 PM
எப்படி சொல்றதுன்னு தெரில உஷா.
'சின்னப்பூங்கொடி' ஒரு அழகான தாலாட்டு கேட்ட மாதிரி இருக்கு. மனசுக்கு ஆறுதலா இருக்கு . enna raagam? Its like u feel at home.... dunno how else to put it.

:ty:

tvsankar
19th February 2009, 12:42 PM
Dear ananth,
7 beat rhytham - gavanikalai. Thanks.
adharkaga marubadiyum keten .
Guitar - Romba pidicha sound enaku - IR music il.

tvsankar
19th February 2009, 12:44 PM
Dear SP,
Thanks for the response.

chinna poongodi - S. Manasuku arudhalana
composition.

Idhu dhan HIS Greatness....

raagam dhanae??

Dear Friends,
Raagam nu kekkara paatuku ragam sollunga pa.

tvsankar
19th February 2009, 04:53 PM
Today pick - Mounamae nenjil

singers - IR and KJY

Film - Urankandha ninaivugal


Indha paatin starting portion is the speciality
of this song...

pl listen....

vera enna solla
KJY - padi irukar.

IR oda - Beats, Guitar, violin..........

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00687.html

Sureshs65
19th February 2009, 05:05 PM
Ananth,

Thanks for pointing out the 7 beat in 'Chinna Kanna'. Mishra gati in Adi talam structure, if I can call it so.

Can you check also check out 'Chinna Poongodi' which Usha has posted? It has an Adi talam structure but the ending is always two beats more than Adi talam. So how do you explain the beat of this song?

Usha: Ragam of 'Chinna Poonkodi'? Looks more scale based than raga based. I could hear traces of Keeravani but I am not sure. Can be some other scale like Gowri Manohari as well.

ananth222
19th February 2009, 07:58 PM
Can you check also check out 'Chinna Poongodi' which Usha has posted? It has an Adi talam structure but the ending is always two beats more than Adi talam. So how do you explain the beat of this song?
It looks like regular aadi taalam. note that "chinna" comes before the first beat, so you must start counting from "poongodi".

Sureshs65
19th February 2009, 10:48 PM
Ananth,

I tried analyzing the song. If I go with Adi Talam of 8 beats and start one beat earlier, still I don't get the ending of the pallavi correctly. i.e., I don't land one beat before the samam. The first two lines start before the beat and the next two lines on the beat. Instead if you consider this as a simple Eka Talam (4 beats), then starting one beat earlier, get you to the right place when the pallavi ends and restarts.

As with many Raja songs, here too there are different starting points within the song. While the Pallavi starts one beat before samam, the charam actually starts one beat after the samam. After both the singers have sung two lines each, it lands on the samam and continues like that for the next 3 lines, before the final line ends up bringing it one beat before the samam for the start of pallavi again. So much asymmetry in the song but Raja hides all this behind the steady beat of the tabla.

I always wonder why Raja's songs are so catchy even though the background rhythm sometimes goes very steady. I guess it is because of these variations in take off points and the asymmetry generated due to this which keeps the interest alive.

tvsankar
20th February 2009, 01:01 PM
Dear Suresh and ananth,
Thanks for the responses.

Enaku adi thalam matum theiryum.(Paiyan tabla konja naal kathundan. Adhanala)

indha 2 paatum - adi thalam madhiri iruku - ana illa nu thonithu.

ananth,

You very well explained the Starting and ending of HIS songs..

one old memory - kanden engum poo magal natiyam

indha paatai ketadhum - veetil
irundha periyavargal sonnadhu - Thalathai
thappa mudichu irukan un Ilaiya raja....

Ovovoru time indha paatai ketadhum appadi than thoniyadhu....

Pin Natkalil dhan Avaroda Greatness purinjahdu.

He showed HIs knowledge nu......

hahahhahaha....

Shakthiprabha.
20th February 2009, 01:06 PM
Today pick - Mounamae nenjil

singers - IR and KJY

Film - Urankandha ninaivugal

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00687.html

usha,

:ty: evlo sonaalum pothathu. Its one of my fav song.
I simply melt along with the song. :ty:

ofcourse when its KJY, what else can we expect :musicsmile:

tvsankar
20th February 2009, 01:12 PM
Today song - Nenachen Nenachaen

Singer - VJ


Film - Kuvaa Kuvaa vathukal


Idhu dhan first time.. Indha paatai ketkiren.

Really nice to hear.Becoz of Guitar.

Mohana ragama??

Thanks to Thiraipadal.com team........
Thanks solla indha jenmam podhadhu...

Soft Beat.. But Smart.

Nenachen Nenachen

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00317.html

thumburu
20th February 2009, 03:38 PM
Heard "paavaiyargaL maan pole" here decades after ceylon "vaanoli" . "Raja ponnu" was quite popular then. It starts with qawali genre and soon moves to pop before SJ begins with "nalladhor peNmaNi" Interesting song

tvsankar
23rd February 2009, 12:21 AM
Welcome thumburu,

Paavaiyargal man polae - Rare Gem listned in
radio cylone.

tvsankar
23rd February 2009, 12:29 AM
today Song - Ey maama kobama
Film - Azhagiya kannae

Singer - Yar padinadhu? therinja kurala iruku.

Ana yar nu theriyalai..

Uma RAmanan?? S.P.Shilaja???


Starting with Beautiful Ludes..

Enna oru Guitar work.... Amazing.....
Singer kudavae - voda phone mahdiri
friendly aga varum Guitar....

Great Great.. Neenda varudanalaga thedi kodnu irundha
paatu idhu.'Thats all.....

Enjoy This IR..........

Ey maama

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00070.html

thumburu
26th February 2009, 05:07 PM
Usha, "azhagiya kaNNE", , an onscure movie by Mahendran has few amazing numbers like "chinna chinna kaNgaL endu" , an intriguing solo by KJY , "naan irukkum indha naaL varaikkum", an endearing solo by SJ and a nice bhakthi song "pala janma janmaandhara bandhangal" by SPS and your SOTD. I infact rated your pick as just another average song for IR's standards of 80's. Now, it sounds good enough , only BSS is trying too hard to sound coy :)