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RR
1st January 2006, 12:16 PM
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Listen here (http://www.musicindiaonline.com/l/26/s/movie_name.5139/)

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( ¾¢¨Ãô À¡¼Ä¢ø ÅÕõ Åâ¸û ±ñ½¢ðÎ ¸¡ð¼ô ÀðÊÕ츢ýÈÉ.)

Links

* Bharathiyar's original verses (http://www.infitt.org/pmadurai/mp049.html) (Paadal - 4)
* On KVM & Padikkaatha methai songs (http://www.tfmpage.com/forum/18367.1133.01.54.38.html)
* Sirkazhi Govindarajan thread (http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=2749)

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stranger
5th January 2006, 06:11 AM
raj: adhisayam! aanaal uNmai!

Your analysis is amazing, raj! :o

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MOVIE : PADIKKAATHAMETHAI
MUSIC : KV MAHADEVAN
SINGER : SEERKAALI GOVINDARAJAN
LYRICS : KANNADHAASAN

engirunthO vanthaan
engirunthO vanthaan idai chathi naan enRaan
engirunthO vanthaan idai chathi naan enRaan
ingivanai yaan peRavE enna dhavam seithuvittEn
ingivanai yaan peRavE enna dhavam seithu vittEn
kaNNan..engirunthO vanthaaan

sonnabadi kEttpaan thuNimaNigaL kaathiduvaan
chinna kuzhanthaikku singaara paatisaippaan
kaNNai imaiyiraNdum kaappathupOl
ennkudumbam vanna muRa kaakinRaan
vaai muNuththal kaNNdaRiyEn..kaNNan

engirunthO vanthaan idai chathi naan enRaan
ingivanai yaan peRavE enna dhavam seithuvittEn
ingivanai yaan peRavE enna dhavam seithu vittEn
kaNNan..engirunthO vanthaaan

patRu migunthu vara paarkinREn
kaNNanaal petRu varum nanmai ellaam pEsimudiyaathu
naNbanaai manthiriyaai nalaasiriyanumaai
paNbilE deivamaai..

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But it is not fair kaNNadasan getting the credit for the Bharathi's song :(

PS: well, geno used to make some remarks that kaNNadasan had done something like this which I was hesitating to believe! :) I always thought he was saying that since he has much more respect for vairamuthu! :)

rajeshkrv
5th January 2006, 07:49 AM
a great song and you should see SVR's action my god... Actors are born not created

pavalamani pragasam
5th January 2006, 12:06 PM
[tscii:5e5ceff40c]Making me nostalgic about an old thread about ilakkiyam in thiraippada paadalkaL which continued to be very actively, enthusiastically discussed by very discerning people!

Some more examples:
"¯ý¨É ¸¡½¡¾ ¸ñÏõ ¸ñ½øÄ"
"«ý¦È¡Õ ¿¡û þ§¾ ¿¢ÄÅ¢ø «Åû þÕó¾¡û"
"§¾¡û ¸ñ§¼ý §¾¡§Ç ¸ñ§¼ý"[/tscii:5e5ceff40c]

stranger
5th January 2006, 09:48 PM
you should see SVR's action my god... Actors are born not created

I can feel what you mean, rajesh!

Rangarao was a great actor, indeed! :thumbsup:

I liked his role in other movies such as iruvar uLLam, pEsum dheivam, padiththaal mattum pOthumA and what not. :)

jn
6th January 2006, 02:17 AM
Raj: great song to begin your series:)

Pls consider songs influenced by kamba ramayanam like paal vaNNam paruvam kaNdu in your series:)

Some songs where the lyricist uses kaN and kai:
kaN = aNNalum nOkkinaan, avaLum nOkkinaaL
kai vaNNam = vil odiththal..

1. paal vaNNam paruvam kaNdu ...
(kaN vaNNam angE kaNdEn
kai vaNNam ingE kaNdEn
peN vaNNam nOy koNdu vaadugiREn)

2. nERRaiya pozhudhu kaNNOdu
inRaiya pozhudhu kaiyOdu
(gnyaayiRu enbadhu kaNNaaga)

3. ennaith thottu senRana kaNgaL
Ekkam thandhE senRana kaigaL


Looking forward to more of barathiyaar and other great songs:)

jn
6th January 2006, 02:19 AM
stranger: Ranga Rao performance le kaRpagam, Missiamma add paNNikongo:) (innum niRaiya irukkum:)
Sorry Raj, I don't mean to digress:)

stranger
6th January 2006, 05:06 AM
Jn, I have seen missiyammA and kaRpagam long ago (may be a bad print in an old theatre during its nth release :) ) I believe. But I dont remember Ranga Rao's role in those movies :(. I recall Gemini was teaching JamunA and making Savithri jealous! And K R Vijaya was showing up as a Ghost!

Anyway, neenga sonnaal maRu pEchchEthu? :)

saringa, add paNNikkiREn :smile2:

pavalamani pragasam
6th January 2006, 08:16 AM
Ranga Raovukku comedyum nallaa varume! Sivaji Chandrababuvodu koottani sernthaal ketkave vendaam!LAtest-aa imitation kooda Karthik padam vanthathe!

stranger
21st January 2006, 05:45 AM
PP: It seems to me he did do some sort of comedian role in missiyammA and pEsum dheivam. In the latter movie he used to talk to "piLLaiyaar" just like his close friend or something if I remember correctly! :smile2:

madhu
22nd January 2006, 12:19 AM
Hi..

there is a song from "Rathnakumar" by P.U.Chinnappa
which is .. once again something like the Bharathiar song..

"kEli miga seivAL .. kEttadhellaam thAn tharuvaL"

scorpio
25th January 2006, 12:24 PM
Raj- Very nice analysis. Unga article padikkum podhu thaan naan nalla tamizh padichu ethanai naaL aachunnu therinchadhu :-( I really had to concentrate and read many lines :-)

Stranger :)
28th August 2006, 10:32 PM
*****But it is not fair kaNNadasan getting the credit for the Bharathi's song

PS: well, geno used to make some remarks that kaNNadasan had done something like this which I was hesitating to believe! I always thought he was saying that since he has much more respect for vairamuthu! ****

Well, I must take my statement back!

When I watched the movie, padikkAdha mEdhai (dvd version) lately, the credit was indeed given to Bharathi unlike what I thought!

Regards! :)