Who is better - Barathiraja or Balachander

[smith1]

even kb as dealt with all these topics/characters.

[raaja_rasigan]

even kb as dealt with all these topics/characters.

with same story :wink:

[smith1]

no way. His stories have had more depth & variety.

BR was more in the rustic mould.

[raaja_rasigan]

no way. His stories have had more depth & variety.

BR was more in the rustic mould.

more variety'a......

iru kodugal mudhal parthale paravasam varai......

oru purusan rendu pondatti
rendu purusan naalu pondatti

ippadiye ottuvaaru..... oruvanukku oruthiye ivarukku theriyadhu...

in between:

pengalin kadhai:
aval oru thodarkathai
manadhil urudhi vendum
kalki

velai illa thindattam:
varumaiyin niram sivappu
vaname ellai ........ in these any one character will repeatedly tells marathiyar kavidhaigal
unnal mudiyum thambi

idai idaye onnu rendu comedy padangal

[smith1]

U have put it in a comical fashion. But there is more to it than meets the eye.

Appadi partha, ellam BR padathuleiyum, vellaa devatha dance aadikittu povanga, sambandhame illaama.

[raaja_rasigan]

U have put it in a comical fashion. But there is more to it than meets the eye.

Appadi partha, ellam BR padathuleiyum, vellaa devatha dance aadikittu povanga, sambandhame illaama.

he too had his flaws.... but doesn't repeat always the same kind of story

[smith1]

alaigal oyvathillai, taj mahal,kadalora kavithaigal.....

[raaja_rasigan]

alaigal oyvathillai, taj mahal,kadalora kavithaigal.....

alaigal oyvathillai - madhangalai thandiya teenage love

kadalora kavithaigal - mudhirndha kaadhal b/w a rough man & a nice women

taj mahal - not yet saw & i won't c

[smith1]

there was confusion between kadhal & respect in kk.

[sriranga]

taj mahal - kurangukkum poo malaikkum love

[raaja_rasigan]

there was confusion between kadhal & respect in kk.

teacherammava love panna appadithan irukkum :lol:

but we can take it as respectable love.... mariyadhaikkuriya kadhal :)

[smith1]

kadhalukku mariyathai? :-)

I love U teacher? :-)

[raaja_rasigan]

taj mahal - kurangukkum poo malaikkum love

ennai poruthavarai rendume korangudhaan

[Corleone]

kadhalukku mariyathai? :-)

I love U teacher? :-)


:D

[raaja_rasigan]

kadhalukku mariyathai? :-)

I love U teacher? :-)

teacher eppavum idam puri sangudhan kedaikkum
ippo valmpuri sangu kedachurukku :)

[swathy]

Bharathiraja.

[sudha india]

i have this in my mind for long time, which I would like to share.

In most of KB's movie there is a stupid concept given with different styles.
A married man. His wife will love/marry someone else.
Or the otherway round. Always the hero or heroine will have more affairs and a confusion whom to choose.
Example
aval oru thodargathai (sujatha's lover will marry her sis. Kalam will love sujatha and marry her sis)
nizhal nijamagiradhu (shoba will love sarath and marry another guy)
pudhu pudhu arthangal(raghu leaves his wife geetha and loves another girl and she leves her husband and loves raghu)
madhavan and simran movie - i forgot the name. Both will marry divorce and decide to marry different persons
sindhu bairavi - sivakumar / sulakshana / suhasini
iru kodugal - 2 wife subject

Take any movie and it will have something similar. Looks like KB can hardly think of any other subject.

[smith1]

sudha,

what U have stated is just a handful among the 100 odd films that he directed.

[raaja_rasigan]

sudha,

what U have stated is just a handful among the 100 odd films that he directed.

all the 100 are not directed.... some films just story, screenplay etc.

[smith1]

not like that. Story & screenplay - hardly 1 or 2.

[sudha india]

Think of few more pictures, everything sounds similar

Again, Kalki is another film with similarity.
Even the serial kai alavu manasu is similar.
If you think of KB's movies you can see the trend.

[smith1]

what abt achamillai achamillai, thanneer thanner, agni satchi & so many others?

U are generalising by pointing out a handful of films.

KB has directed on a wide range of issues.

[selvakumar]

KB has directed on a wide range of issues.

But majority of them were :roll:

[sudha india]

Sure, accepted he is a great director. His thillu mullu is quite enjoyable no double.

But the only irritation is the multiple wife/husband/lover similarity in many movies

The next addition i would like to add is aboorva ragangal.

Move is an excellent one. I am only talking about the general theme. There are many more movies in this list. But not able to remember. You can also think.

[smith1]

In the B&W era, there was nanal,major chandrakanth, ethir neechal, server sundaram, neerkumizhi, punnagai, ethiroli (stg.sivaji ganesan) etc.,

[RC]

I'm a big fan of BR movies most of them and few KB movies!

KB shows maturity in his directing skills. You can watch it any time. He has experimented with different subjects.

Though Bharathiraja comes in par with KB, some of the movies with newcomers arent so good. If you watch his old movies now, you'll notice that. KangaLaal kaithu sei for example!

Same with TR movies (Mythil ennai kaathali and before). You appreciated those movies then... But now...?

[hub rap]

watched avargal. The plot and the narration was good (pls excuse me, am new to old films). Kamal's character was very real and I could relate it with most of my friends. the scene where kamal's sweet limes are compared with the stacked apples was touching. hats off KB.

goof: kamal as a ventriloquist could have played it more convincingly by not keeping his mouth tightly sealed while junior speaks... it is very difficult, almost impossible to perform that way.

PS: I couldnt help but compare Balachander & Sujatha with Ram gopal varma & Urmila :twisted:.

[vasanthgt]

i have this in my mind for long time, which I would like to share.

In most of KB's movie there is a stupid concept given with different styles.
A married man. His wife will love/marry someone else.
Or the otherway round. Always the hero or heroine will have more affairs and a confusion whom to choose.
Example
aval oru thodargathai (sujatha's lover will marry her sis. Kalam will love sujatha and marry her sis)
nizhal nijamagiradhu (shoba will love sarath and marry another guy)
pudhu pudhu arthangal(raghu leaves his wife geetha and loves another girl and she leves her husband and loves raghu)
madhavan and simran movie - i forgot the name. Both will marry divorce and decide to marry different persons
sindhu bairavi - sivakumar / sulakshana / suhasini
iru kodugal - 2 wife subject

Take any movie and it will have something similar. Looks like KB can hardly think of any other subject.

Madhavan's film is Paarthale Paravasam

It was BR who first took tamil cinema outside the set.
Balachandar's films like Aboorva Raagangal, Moonru Mudichchu(Rajini will target Sridevi and finally she becomes his step mother), Vaaname Ellai (VMC Haneefa and Y.Vijaya relationship)will predict some relationships which we can't even imagine in our day to day life.
In one film, Aval Oru Thodarkathai I beleive, unknowingly both mother and daughter will love the same man.

[sriranga]

It was BR who first took tamil cinema outside the set.
Balachandar's films like Aboorva Raagangal, Moonru Mudichchu(Rajini will target Sridevi and finally she becomes his step mother), Vaaname Ellai (VMC Haneefa and Y.Vijaya relationship)will predict some relationships which we can't even imagine in our day to day life.
In one film, Aval Oru Thodarkathai I beleive, unknowingly both mother and daughter will love a man.
:oops:

neenga bharatiraja padam ellam parthathe illayo?

[smith1]

as far as human relationships is concerned, no one can beat KB.

BR's films had that rustic feel but did not go far beyond that.

In KK, the love shown between satyaraj & rekha is ambiguous.

Kodi parakathu was neither a rajini film nor a BR film.

[vasanthgt]

It was BR who first took tamil cinema outside the set.
Balachandar's films like Aboorva Raagangal, Moonru Mudichchu(Rajini will target Sridevi and finally she becomes his step mother), Vaaname Ellai (VMC Haneefa and Y.Vijaya relationship)will predict some relationships which we can't even imagine in our day to day life.
In one film, Aval Oru Thodarkathai I beleive, unknowingly both mother and daughter will love a man.
:oops:

neenga bharatiraja padam ellam parthathe illayo?

Ranga Sir.. What is Ur contradiction here?

[sriranga]

It was BR who first took tamil cinema outside the set.
Balachandar's films like Aboorva Raagangal, Moonru Mudichchu(Rajini will target Sridevi and finally she becomes his step mother), Vaaname Ellai (VMC Haneefa and Y.Vijaya relationship)will predict some relationships which we can't even imagine in our day to day life.
In one film, Aval Oru Thodarkathai I beleive, unknowingly both mother and daughter will love a man.
:oops:

neenga bharatiraja padam ellam parthathe illayo?

Ranga Sir.. What is Ur contradiction here?

even BR made film with complex relationship. thats my point.

[vasanthgt]

It was BR who first took tamil cinema outside the set.
Balachandar's films like Aboorva Raagangal, Moonru Mudichchu(Rajini will target Sridevi and finally she becomes his step mother), Vaaname Ellai (VMC Haneefa and Y.Vijaya relationship)will predict some relationships which we can't even imagine in our day to day life.
In one film, Aval Oru Thodarkathai I beleive, unknowingly both mother and daughter will love a man.
:oops:

neenga bharatiraja padam ellam parthathe illayo?

Ranga Sir.. What is Ur contradiction here?

even BR made film with complex relationship. thats my point.

Film names please so that I can know that he too made such films

[NOV]

Iyakunar Sigaram K Balachander (85), is reportedly said to be hospitalized at the Kauvery private hospital in Alwarpet, Chennai and reports suggest that he is in a very critical condition.

K Balachander made his directorial debut, way back in 1965 through Neerkumizhi and has gone on to direct superstars like Sivaji Ganesan, Rajinikanth, Kamal Haasan and Nagesh to name a few.

Superstar Rajinikanth is reportedly rushing to the hospital.

[Anban]

undoubtedly Bharathiraja ! he is a versatile genius ..

[NOV]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqnJV8sCIVk